Emery’s season on a precipice

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It’s been very interesting watching the back and forth on Emery over the past few days.

I am just a mediator these days.

A deliverer of the facts.

One of my friends told me I needed to be nicer to Emery, so I will be.

He’s taken on a hard job. The squad had too many drossy players left in it. He’s made improvements.

The interesting thing with the improvements, is they aren’t as data-driven as they were a few weeks ago.

The man thing he’s addressed this year is competitiveness in the big games.

He’s also shown that he can outthink big managers.

Our tactics aren’t always great but be fair, there are tactics, which is a huge advancement at Arsenal.

The interesting thing to look at for me is the flip of coin that’s going on with how to look at the season.

If you compare Emery’s season to the penultimate season of Wenger, things look very similar. Now, I compare him to that season because it was Wenger’s second worse season ever. Comparing to last season is a softball. Also, the season I’m comparing to earned Wenger a new deal, his last earned him a red card.

We are already two goals worse off from a defensive standpoint.

We have to score 9 goals to be offensively better.

We have to win all three games to match the points total.

Add to that: Our defensive xG maps almost perfectly to what we’ve achieved… we are as bad as it looks. There’s no luck involved.

Look at our attack, and we have been ruthlessly efficient. Literally the best conversion rate we’ve ever had. That is going to be hard to sustain.

Then look at our away record and we’ve kept one clean sheet all season.

The flip side of this is you could say we should only be comparing Emery to last season. Sure, things are better than the year the squad basically gave up on Wenger. Let’s be a bit more ambitious than that.

The other valid argument Emery backers can have is this:

NONE OF IT MATTERS IF WE MAKE TOP 4 OR WIN EUROPA.

… and that’s the rub of it. Exactly what I said when everyone was crowing about points a few weeks ago. It’s all irrelevant if you don’t meet your objective.

We can still make top 4 in the Premier League. That would be epic. I would dance partially clothed in the street if that happened.

We have a very good chance of beating Valencia. Then it’s a roll of the dice in a final against two sides I’d fancy us against.

So when assessing Emery, you have to decide what you think is greatness.

Tangible improvements to tactics, defence or attack.

Or just STFU we qualified for the big boy European trophy.

It’s going to be a very interesting scorecard come the end of the season… and to be clear, I think it’s a blend of both. If he makes the Champions League, he deserves all the love we can give him. If he doesn’t, I think we’ll have an uphill battle next season, because £45m is getting us nowhere.

Arsenal and Emery are perched on the precipice. Another chance at relevancy… or a further decline into the pit of mediocrity.

Chelsea, United and Spurs will not stand still. This is our chance. We have to make something of our last 3 Premier League games and we have to do something special in the Europa.

Huge month ahead, strap in. x

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Alexanderhenry

Guns of SF

Don’t forget Pires. Great player.

Nelson

Ox is warming up. Would like to see him on the pitch again.

jwl

Wenger would have won fcuk all without Seaman and the well drilled back four …. FACT!!!

Ox is one of Liverpool subs, did not know he was back, good to see he recovered from bad injury.

salpardisenyc

Azed

Defense still looks Wengerized with Unai’s new recruits and deft touch. Goals against Wolves could be carbon copied to Wengers banter sides.
Still being undone by cheap set pieces, Sokratis pulling out on Xhakas wayward pass echoed Gallas weakest moments. Its poor.

You can’t put that on anybody except Unai whose had two windows to remedy. Chose to loan Suarez in instead of opt for defensive stability after getting a good peak at what he had, needed and loosing Holding.

HighburyLegend

“I would dance partially clothed in the street if that happened.”

Ah ah ah Pedro, call this a bet!!

Marc

Pedro

The Poch is a good coach – you can’t claim he’s one of the top 3 till he’s won something, actually won quite a lot.

To make him one of the top 3 that means two of Allegri, Klopp, Pep and Arteta have to drop out. That’s without including Zidane.

Marc

Highbury

As long as the best is he does it in your street and not mine OK?

azed

Sal

Emery wanted to buy a defender in January but like we all know, there was no money to spend in January.

Like I said earlier, we have 7 central defenders on the book. How do you explain to Stan that we need to add to ones when we have when you can only play at most 3?

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2810535-unai-emery-says-signing-a-defender-a-good-option-for-arsenal-in-january

Nelson

If you have Salah and Mane, the game becomes so easy.They know how to run the channel without offside. You just have to keep an eye on them and pass the ball to them, job done. Auba should study how these two pool players play.

azed

“Midwest, Poch wouldn’t be struggling. He’s a top 3 coach in the world.”

……….and Redtruth is the Black Panther.

London gunner

The question is why are Emery teams so strong at home and so poor away.

It seems bizarre tbh. What can it be.

Marc

London

Well it can’t be the 12th man at the Emirates so it’s got to be a mental thing amongst the players.

jwl

Marc – I agree that Pedro must be having fevers again or something with his comment about Poch being top three coach in world. Only managers who have won multiple trophies get to be considered in best lists, Wenger did better with 3 FA Cup wins at end of his career than anything Poch has done so far.

Poch should have won something by now to be considered top manager, that no top teams have tried to sign him yet tells us something.

TheLegendaryDB10

Marc

it’s got to be a mental thing amongst the players.

Well not sure about that as we seem to fold like a pack of cards when playing away.

I would say that we seem to capitalise on other teams being wary when playing us at home (?).

Charlie George

Azed If you were Josh- would you give ‘ Stan and Laurel’ hard cash..? We have seen their financial acumen all season Contracts to : Suarez Elneny Iwobi Lich Monreal No contracts to: Rambo Welbeck To use an old Fergie line about Real Madrid. “””I would not give them a virus.!”” Fascinating to see if The Kroenke billionaires suffer these fools beyond the end of the season…? I have a feeling the cash drawbridge has been pulled up and they are to be sacked regardless of results. They have no expertise or experience in the hard yards of the Prem… Read more »

salpardisenyc

Well if its a mental thing amongst the players its a mental thing that runs true with most of Emery’s sides.

I’m leaning towards it being more tactical.

Champagne charlie

Always interesting to see the premise of an argument ignored in an attempt to tail off into some criticism of a pov.

Pedro can think Poch is top 3, top 8, top 22. His argument was that Poch would’ve likely achieved more this season than Emery with the same task at hand, argue that.

It’s a direct counter to Midwest who claims Poch wouldn’t have done any better.

Marc

“We have seen their financial acumen all season

Contracts to :
Suarez
Elneny
Iwobi
Lich
Monreal”

Outside of Suarez who was a loan signing (can’t understand why people get so wound up about a short term loan deal) all of the others were down to Gazidis.

I would say that I don’t know whether CG is ignorant of the facts or is operating on a severely driven agenda and therefore lying.

CG is one of those few who manages to do both.

Words on a Blog

Pedro,

Wow, amazing how Poch has got to the exalted position of top 3 coach in the world without actually winning anything.

I mean, the guy is good, but seriously? You need to stay off the meds.

Let’s see how well he does next season once he has to operate under the financial constraints imposed by the cost of the new stadium.

Champagne charlie

I don’t think our record at Emirates vs Away is necessarily down to mentality, although it’s certainly a factor. I think it’s the fact most teams are timid/guarded when they come to visit us and we take full advantage with the extra space. Conversely these same teams feel ‘more at home’ (wink, wink) at their own place and we haven’t managed to formulate a plan to deal with teams that don’t in essence yield to us. Man City impose their game no matter where they are, it’s certainly not a trait we share. For me that’s in some part mentality,… Read more »

Marc

CC

The Poch has a squad he’s been coaching and putting together for almost 5 years. With all of that they are 4 points above us after 35 games.

It’s unfair to expect Emery to have a team working the way he wants after a single summer and at the same time dismiss the Poch’s abject failure to win something.

bennydevito

CG you are a deliberate fool.

Apart from Suarez all those contracts were signed before Emery was here.

Jesus Christ how thick can someone be?

bennydevito

And as for their first 50 games Emery is the greatest Arsenal manager of all time.

Fact.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6938559/After-50-games-Emery-wins-Arsenal-manager.html

Champagne charlie

Marc

Nothing you present is relevant to what I said about whether Poch would’ve done better for us this season than Emery.

Spurs are undoubtedly one of the best sides in the league, they’re also in the CL semi final which is something the Emirates has never hosted I gleefully found out. Good times indeed.

I rate Poch more than I do Emery, I merely reject the idea he (Poch) would’ve returned the same season Emery has.

Charlie George

Top coaches in world soccer.

Klopp
Poch
Conte
Pep
Mournhio
Ancelotti
Wenger

Heavy weights.

In that order…

Nelson

If you vote for the player of the year or golden ball, you only count the achievement this year. If the Spuds reaches the final of the CL, then I would consider Poch among the top 3 coach of this year. Note that Spuds has a small budget as compared to the other top teams.

Champagne charlie

CG

Put the crackpipe down lad, Wenger was a giant but that ship has well and truly sailed. In fact the bottom three on that list are questionable mentions if recent seasons are to go by

MidwestGun

Poch would struggle.. Whether he is top 3 manager in the world is irrelevant. Spurs have struggled with the same types of things we have. They lost to Wolves and Watford too.. Not only that they have struggled against Us with Emery as our leader. . Let that sink in for a minute, Any manager would struggle at times with Mustafi, Mkhyi, Kola, Iwobi, Xhaka, Monreal as regular contributors to the starters. NO amount of tactical brilliance is going to fix that. It doesn’t mean I don’t rate Poch.. In fact given the choice between Poch and Emery I would… Read more »

bennydevito

Yeh, Poch is so great he’s 4 points above Emery in his first season with the greatest Spurs team of all time.

What a great Poch is.

How many trophies has poch won again?

How many has Emery won?

Hiw many European trophies has Wenger won?

Hiw many has Emery won?

It really is no contest.

Marc

benny

You made it back from oop north then!

Marc

“Top coaches in world soccer.

Klopp
Poch
Conte
Pep
Mournhio
Ancelotti
Wenger”

Mourinho, Ancelotti and Wenger are all better than Allegri and Zidane – both serial winners.

I won’t even go into Klopp losing his last 6 consecutive cup finals and number 2 on the list hasn’t won anything.

Charlie George

Bd

I think – it’s best- you go off and support one of The Bristol clubs.

Defending Emery-will drove you round the bend…

Yes, I think it’s better all round…
City or Rovers?

jwl

Champagne Charlie – I think if Emery were manager of Spuds now instead of Poch they would have won trophies in past few seasons. Poch has talented side and he won sweet fa so far while Emery won three european trophies on trot while at Seville, which is what earned him his promotion to PSG while Poch still stuck at Spuds.

Charlie George

Marc
Allegri and Zz dont speak English though.

It means they cant be that good..

MidwestGun

The bigger question is whether you all would be willing to finish 7th or 10th for a few seasons with a manager of your choice and if that manager did finish 7- 10th for a few season would you still rate him. What I’m saying is there isn’t much room for error … and the jump from 6th to 2nd is huge at the moment. So whatever manager we bring in will require patience and from what I’ve seen on here. Unless we bring in a huge name manager with a reputation I haven’t seen much willingness to struggle even… Read more »

Nelson

Ox plays good. Always drives the ball forward. Physically, he is also much stronger than Guen.

Marc

CG is now telling someone to support another team, well maybe you should go off and support another sport.

Where the fuck do you get off telling someone who was actually at an away match a few days ago they shouldn’t follow Arsenal when you live thousands of miles away?

Condescending cunt.

Redtruth

Klopp- Choker
Poch-Rookie
Conte- lol
Pep- Wanker
Mournhio- Chequebook manager
Ancelotti- Over the hill
Wenger- Retired

Champagne charlie

JWL

What trophies would Emery have won Spurs in the time Poch has been there by your reckoning?

Spurs are a CL club by all accounts, so a Europa League record wouldn’t do a great deal there.

Marc

“Allegri and Zz dont speak English though.

It means they cant be that good..”

What an ignorant comment.

Freddie Ljungberg

CGs comments are now so stupid they cause cancer. He’s taking ignorance to a whole other leveI.

Is this the next level is the next level?

Marc

Didn’t the Poch spend at least a year giving post match interviews in Spanish because his English was so piss poor?

Jamie

Poch is a good coach, no doubt. But he hasn’t won a single pot in his career. Wenger was still bringing home the FA Cup during his banter years. Says something for Poch’s ability to get a good squad motivated for cup runs, no?

Jamie

Marc –

Poch was using a translator during his time at Southampton. I think he started trying out his English when he arrived at Spurs.

Marc

Freddie

He’s almost single handedly ruining the comments page on here.

Marc

Jamie

Ah so he was a rubbish coach and then became amazing when he started speaking English.

It’s this sort of insight that makes CG almost relevant.

TheLegendaryDB10

CG

Do you think before you write?

Ah, I forgot. You do need to have a brain before the latter can actually happen.

bennydevito

Marc, Lol! Yes I made it back to Bristol from the Wolves match but am still in a state of shock, not only at having to sit through one of our worst performances in living memory but being surrounded by jubilant Wolves fans whilst having to pretend to be one of them. Worst night of my life. The Arsenal away fans were brilliant though and especially at the start were overpowering the home fans with their chanting. Was also Wolves’ biggest attendance of the season. The atmosphere was awesome though, the Wolves fans were so loud and our players looked… Read more »

Jamie

Marc –

Exactly. Pep was also a dud when he started at Bayern because his German wasn’t good at all.

Samesong

CC is bang on about Emery’s tactics away. However there is a big mentality issue. Too many player’s that lack confidence in that team.

Check out this stat then.

Arsenal have won only once at the King Power Stadium in the Premier League

Chew on that for a sec. So no easy game, and it’s not a given.

Un Na naai

Worst night of my life.

Hard old life you must have had then Benny. Talk about privelaged.

bennydevito

CG, I would support one of the Bristol teams but I’m not one to desert my club when the going gets tough. Firstly I started supporting Arsenal around 84/85 as everyone in my school were Liverpool fans and I wanted to be different. Arsenal attracted me because of the name Arsenal and their cannon logo and Gunners nickname I thought was absolutely awesome, I liked their kit and I liked that they came first in the Panini sticker album. Secondly I couldn’t choose City or Rovers over each other as I have an affinity for both of them as I… Read more »

TheLegendaryDB10

Benny

Glad you made it back alive. I really felt sorry for you to have travelled up with your son to see this shitfest that we managed (once again) to produce away.

I hope your son doesn’t suddenly change allegiance after this game! 😉

Un Na naai

DB10

To wolves…..

London gunner

I actually felt CG was an utter troll but after his kind words about that poor young lad who died I realise he isn’t.

Still he is daft as fuck even if he isn’t a bas guy.

Chris

CG isn’t a troll, just mad as a box of frogs.

Pierre the Oziltologist is the troll around here.

WengerEagle

Lack of confidence from his troops in Seville too then?

The away day blues have followed Emery from club to club, it’s nothing new.

TheLegendaryDB10

Un

I recall Benny mentioning that his son was a Gooner (his no.1 team). Hence the lack of reference.

WengerEagle

In the Wengerball days we also bottled away from home but only in the really huge matches and they were always tight, we were rarely blown out of the water. We could impose our game and dominate irrespective of whether we were at home or away.

Used to go to Anfield and always give Liverpool a game, remember when we battered them there twice in the space of a few days in 2006/07 I think it was, Baptista-Alliadiere and Rosicky all at the heart of the respective dickings.

Ah, good times.

bennydevito

TheLegendaryDB10,

Lol! Thanks! No, my son is an Arsenal fan first and foremost, it’s just his Mother’s family are all from Wolverhampton and Willenhall and I let his Granddad take him to the odd Wolves game as Wolves are his second team. I haven’t been able to get us Arsenal tickets this season but will definitely be rectifying that for next season. My 14yr old and 5yr old daughters want to go too so I’m going to sign us all up for red members or Junior Gunners and see what I can do.

Pierre

Bennydevito
“It’s just a figure of speech ”

Just like” Napoli were made for Arsenal ” was a figure of speech but you had to rattle on about Napoli being founded in 1929 and some other nonsense.

one could accuse you of double standards .

WengerEagle

Sky running with Hazard and Pogba to Real Madrid.

Former looks a near certainty but the latter would be really interesting, would surely signal the end of United acting at least somewhat competitively losing their only top drawer player.

In the Fergie era, Ronaldo was the only player that they were ever bullied into selling and he was the best player in the world/biggest sports star on the planet so he always looked set for Real Madrid.

Marc

WE “The away day blues have followed Emery from club to club, it’s nothing new.” Problem with that comment is that it’s not as if we were nailing it away prior to Emery. Last season we picked up 3 points from the following away matches Swansea, Newcastle, West Brom, Bournemouth, Southampton, Brighton, West Ham, Watford, Stoke and Leicester. This season if you swap the relegated teams for the promoted we’ve picked up 15 points and still have Leicester to play. Just a reminder we only picked up 16 away points in the whole of last season. This is not about… Read more »

Marc

WE

Not only Pogba but ManU are stuck with their highest paid player who they’ll struggle to unload and De Gea looks like he will be on the move as well.

London gunner

Pogba isn’t all that though.

He is no Viera.

TheLegendaryDB10

Benny

Glad to hear that all your kids want to be Gooners! Let’s hope next season lives up a little more to our expectations (and that’s more on Sanllehi than UE; as I have been saying, this summer TW is going to be real teller on the club’s aspirations.) when you will take them to watch some games at Ashburton Grove.

WengerEagle

Marc Yeah not just putting it down to Emery, but it’s been a problem with his sides in the past and represents the same mental fragility that Wenger sides have shown which is concerning for me. Sampaoli went in and won 8 away matches the very next season with largely the same group after Emery failed to win a single game away all season before. Whatever happens throughout these last few weeks of the season I really hope that we’re proactive in the market this summer, anything under 3 first team signings would be pretty crushing and hoping that we… Read more »

WengerEagle

LG Of course not, but he’s a top player in his own right. Was only last summer that he was France’s best CM in their World Cup win and he’s shown his immense quality over the years with Juventus and earlier on at United. He’s not the type to elevate and inspire the group around him, that’s your Steven Gerrard, Roy Keane, prime Cesc Fabregas types. He’s more of an icing on the top type player that takes a top team up another level, he’d fit in very well into that RM midfield imo with Kroos and Casemiro playing as… Read more »

WengerEagle

Marc

They could be well selling DDG at the right time, his stock is still an all-time elite GK but he’s slipped behind Oblak and Ter Stegen for me as the best in Europe, mistakes are creeping into his game more and more often now to the point they’re happening pretty regularly.

PSG will throw silly money at them, you’d be tempted to take it with a rebuild in mind.

Pierre

I’ve said it before , to be a decent away team you have to have the fear factor. Home teams have to be afraid of committing players forward against us in the fear of the counter attack . We have forgotten how to counter attack , and until we find the answer then teams will be able to attack us with impunity. We need to work on an effective counter attacking strategy that will get us from A to B in 2 or 3 passes . It requires speed of thought and movement off the ball to work effectively.but I… Read more »

Marc

WE

I think the problem with Pogba isn’t talent it’s attitude and maturity. If he does get a move to Madrid and doesn’t grow the fuck up he’ll end up doing a more successful version of Anelka’s career – not bad but not what it should have been.

Marc

WE

I can’t make my mind up with De Gea he’s been in my opinion the best keeper in the PL for some years now. Is his loss of form the start of a downward spiral? He’s only 28 he should be coming into his prime as a keeper or is it just a case of being pissed off living in a shit hole and wanting out.

Un Na naai

Any new United coach would be glad to be rid of the arse hole Pogba
Always said xakha was better value for money and I’ve been proven right

WengerEagle

Surely he’s already pissed all over Anelka’s career by age 26? Won the World Cup, 4 Serie A titles, Europa League, CL runner-up.

Not a bad resume for someone still relatively young.

Always admired Anelka’s ability, guy was a really cool cat on the pitch, ridiculous pace and composure in front of goal and played with that swagger. Didn’t nearly score as much as he should have though, put up pretty average numbers in all honesty.

Strange nomadic career but was supposedly always a difficult dude to deal with off the pitch.

TheLegendaryDB10

Pierre

At last a practically sensible post from you, bar your usual agenda driven dig at UE at the end of your post (no surprise there).

But you are right. We’ve been lacking the fear factor for the past 7-8 years at least. In fact it’s a shame that we lost that fear factor that other teams had when they played us during the Invincibles era.

Un Na naai

We

He would have been a legend had he stayed at arsenal
He was never the same again. Anyway he left and Thierry became the legend and arguable the greatest player to grace the club.

WengerEagle

Marc Possibly yeah I’d say he’s still pissed off about fax-gate with Real Madrid but didn’t he sign a new contract after it failed to go through? He’s gone from a GK that saved an outrageous amount of points a season with improbable saves to conceding plenty of goals that most GK’s make routine saves. Pretty drastic plummet and doesn’t add up if you factor in his age with your typical career trajectory for a GK. Could be him downing tools but I get the feeling that he’s bought too much into his own hype and now the mistakes are… Read more »

bennydevito

Pierre,

If accusing me of double standards makes you feel better then fair enough I get your point, although I disagree entirely with your point about Napoli being made for Emery.

WengerEagle

Unn

Any older Gooners I’ve talked to always swear that Anelka could well have gone on to do even greater things at the club than TH14 if he shared his mentality.

Similar story to Quaresma and Ronaldo in Sporting early on.

WengerEagle

Which is why you have to take your hat off to Messi and Ronaldo, never in the space of over a decade has either let a run of matches without finding the net get to their head as any other player would. And this is with ten times the pressure as anything over 2 matches without scoring for them is seen as a drought. Hnery as great as he was went through some pretty rough dry patches even in the middle of his prime, honestly cannot remember Messi or Ronaldo failing to score for more than 5 matches on the… Read more »

azed

Here’s some stat from AFTV

Llorente has played a 1000 minutes less than Ozil but has double the assists.

Ozil is number 94 on the assist list this season even though we have Aubameyang (19) goals and Lacazette (13) as strikers.

Ramsey has also played less than Ozil but has more assists than Ozil.

According to Pierre, CG and co, Emery binned Ramsey and Ozil but Ramsey is delivering from CM midfield.

bennydevito

azed,

The sooner we get rid of Ozil the better.

azed

Benny

Not just Ozil but he would be a good start.

bennydevito

TheLDB10, Yes my kids are all proper Arsenal fans but my eldest daughter who’s 14 is a seriously passionate Arsenal fan and hates Man utd. Me and her Mum separated before she was born and I had her every weekend from 6 weeks old and from the age of 1 onwards we would always watch Arsenal together at the pub if they were on and she loved it and was never fazed even in a packed pub when it would kick off with obnoxious Man utd fans. She loved the experience of watching the game at the pub. We don’t… Read more »

Redtruth

What has Guardiola done which Emery didn’t do with PSG

Redtruth

Winning 3 consecutive Europa leagues with a shit side is no mean feat regardless of how poor the competition is.

Redtruth

Emery won a European competition while failing to win an away game all season.

Wenger went undefeated all season and failed to win a European competition.

bennydevito

Un nai,

In my opinion Anelka in an Arsenal shirt was better than Wright and Henry, even more clinical and skillful than Wright and faster and more direct than Henry. One on one with the keeper? Nobody better and had he stayed at Arsenal he would have been our best striker ever and better than the original Ronaldo.

Unfo his older brothers were his agent and were money grabbing mercenary bastards who manipulated his career forcing regular moves pocketing huge signing on and agent fees.

bennydevito
TheLegendaryDB10

Great to hear that your daughter is becoming a serious Gooner! Maybe one day you should trek down to the Gunners Pub with her for a big away game. This is when the pub is at it’s best and most liveliest. Great pub (imo) and is a mini museum (you’ll see why if you go there).

Red currant shirt? You are referring to the 2005-2006 shirt we wore in our final season @ Highbury?

Redtruth

For both Ronaldo and Messi to fail to score in the knockout rounds in 4 World Cups is comedy gold

bennydevito

TLDB10, Yes, the last season at Highbury shirt. Yes next season I will definitely try to take her to the Emirates as well as my other 3 individually if I can’t afford to take us all and get 5 tickets together in 1 go, maybe my 2 yr old can wait a few years but my 5 yr old bless her is desperate to go. Will definitely check out some of the Arsenal pubs. I’ve been to that one opposite the big Arsenal letters outside the Emirates a couple of times. Does anyone know if the Emirates cup is on… Read more »

Nelson

I just came across some posts on social media:

“Ivan Gazidis and his sidekicks have damaged Arsenal’s seasons for a while now. A forward-looking club would have taken a gamble and appointed Arteta instead of a man who made them feel safe with a PowerPoint presentation,”

“To think Arsenal could have had Mikel Arteta bringing Pep-flavoured hexagonical 4d football romance, but a maths teacher put together a powerpoint instead.”

Seems that Emery hasn’t won over some of the fans yet.

bennydevito

Nelson,

A lot of the fans I would say and I don’t think he’s going to.

If we don’t achieve CL this season either by winning the EL or finishing top 4 especially when we could have had 9 extra points if we hadn’t been so abysmal against Everton, Palace and Wolves, even when taking into consideration the unavoidable changes due to injuries, sickness and suspension against Evertom and Palace, then Emery should go and we should have a Rioch style reset and go all out for Vieira this summer.

Bamford10

re: our away form

“we haven’t managed to formulate a plan to deal with teams that don’t in essence yield to us. Man City impose their game no matter where they are. It’s certainly not a trait we share.”

We lack the quality to do this. Not even our better attacking players are up to this. Not Lacazette. Not Ozil. Not Aubameyang.

Iwobi? Xhaka? Mkhitaryan? Torreira? Please.

It’s simple: we’re massively lacking in quality.

Which isn’t an argument for Emery, btw. But the real problem at the moment is the squad, not the manager per se.

Leedsgunner

If you want to listen something illuminating (and very sad in a way) I would recommend the latest Arsecast conversation with Amy Lawrence. In it she reminds all Arsenal fans about how in 2002-2004 we went away everywhere and how “we had a fierce determination not to get beaten. We didn’t win every game but we always got a point.” Talk about how the mighty have fallen… how did we get from that to this? Wenger’s complacency and hubris poisoned the well in our club’s mentality… and simply our club’s players became comfortable with losing in the league… death by… Read more »

Tony

Leeds
Well put.

I suggested Freddie to be manager a while ago and perhaps that’s a step too far right now, but assistant manager makes a lot more sense for his immediate future.

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Leeds Yes. We’ve certainly lost that warrior spirit and sheer will power we used to possess. How many times did we see those sides score last minute winners? Or winners in the last 10? Loads. They just refused to sit down and be beaten. This side from 06 onwards was the opposite. They threw away results in the last minutes, often in comical fashion. Barca 06 being the main memory. Two fucking near post shots that any decent keeper would have had covered. For some reason I still fell if we’d kept hold of vieira that season we’d not have… Read more »