courtesy @allthatchas
The OGS gravy train has well and truly derailed.
‘THIS MAN HAS BROUGHT JOY BACK TO THE UNITED CAMP’
I love the continuous hope in the press that United has maybe found a new saviour.
Turns out, it might not be OGS. The little hit of dopamine he brought after Jose Mourinho was fired has dampened, and now he’s just left with a mess of overpaid players who seem to lack any amount of fucks.
I did have a little worry at the start of that epic run that maybe he had the keys to unlock a chained squad. I think the reality has to settle in now that maybe the players over there aren’t as good as everyone thinks.
Anyway, there’s no shame in losing out on a Champions League medal because Lio Messi is a fucking genius, but there has to be some sort of consequence to not making the top 4. I’m not making a prediction either way, because we are just as capable of fucking up the last 5 games as they are… but it looks like momentum is back with Arsenal.
We have a tough game of our own to deal with on Thursday, and not at an ideal time either. So odd that the Prem would work against a UK team and let us play Watford on a Monday.
Still, we kept a clean sheet away from home and a actually won. Hopefully the big game feel that this match will bring will extract the maximum focus from the players that they’ll need if they’re to push us through to a slightly easier semi final… which should be against Valencia.
A big week for us… I’ll catch you in the comments x
Cue the incessant Spurs love in now on the BBC. Goodness me, what if we end up with a Liverpool vs. Tottenham final for the Champions League? How unbelievably unbearable would Spurs be if they won the Champions League before us? Ugggh. In fact, a quick impromptu poll. What’s more unpalatable for the Arsenal fan? Liverpool winning the league this year or Tottenham winning the Champions League? For me it’s the latter but it’s a very close run thing. All the more reason for us to win a European trophy… albeit the Europa League AND qualify for the Champions League… Read more »
I mean you can hardly say that Spurs have no chance?
Chelsea had no chance in 2012 and look what happened.
Ajax will hardly scare them after beating City and Dortmund.
Pierre
“Some might say it’s similar to the inaccurate agenda driven rhetoric towards Arsene Wenger by the Wenger [out types] over the last ten years …”
Except that there was nothing inaccurate about our criticism of Arsene Wenger.
That you think there was speaks volumes about your POV and should help some people here better understand what motivates your commentary here.
Leeds
Not even close mate, Spuds winning the CL is unthinkable.
We’ve won the PL so many times that you’d survive if Pool won it, banter wise Spurs winning the CL before us would KO the club’s rep as a level above them cunts.
Ajax have very little to lose, pressure all on Spurs this time. Will be interesting how Spurs cope with such a possession based team under such circumstances.
Wouldn’t write Ajax off, at all.
But even if they get there, Spurs are not good enough to beat Barca in a final, and if Liverpool make it, after last year, they are not only better than Spurs, they will be the most motivated team on the planet.
All tonight’s result will really do is help us in the battle for third place.
Suarez and Coutinho back at Anfield should be tasty.
Expect a huge performance out of the latter especially.
Stan Wawrinka won the US Open after saving match points against bloody Dan Evans in the first round.
Spurs will gain strength from how they’ve got here, and think their name is on it. Just feel Ajax will suffer same fate Monaco suffered against Juve a few years back. Played well but still lost.
WengerEagle
It’s just mental that Tottenham has gotten this far. I’m just hoping that they will revert to form and bottle it.
It would be the definition of unbearable if Spurs won the Champions League. I mean it was bad when Chelsea flunked a win under Roberto Di Matteo but if Spurs won it we would never hear the end of it.
I agree with Paulinho.
As good as Ajax have been, I feel Spuds will overcome Ajax.
90 mins against Barca or Pool is no ones guess. That Bad feeling.
Guys, are you sure that tomorrow’s game is not a bit more important ??
How has it come to this? Spurs in CL semi, ahead of us in PL, Liverpool atop the pile… Why oh why all this fuss about getting 4th place? We have zero chance of winning CL, or even genuinely competing in it. My one consolation is that I haven’t contributed a penny to the Club since Stan took over. Nothing will improve while he is still around. Once you accept this as axiomatic, the solution is obvious: stay away. Do that, and he will either have to take us seriously, or sell up. Arsenal is like smoking. Giving up is… Read more »
Ajax will also gain strength on how they got here.
Liverpool will gain strength from a chance to right what they may regard as a Ramos inflicted wrong from last year.
And Barca in a final, as long as key players are available will already have too much strength for any of them at that juncture.
Son is excellent, but those first two Spurs goals were almost entirely down to bad mistakes from Laporte and somewhat lax defending from City. Ajax are not going to gift them goals like that, and neither are Barca or Liverpool.
“Why oh why all this fuss about getting 4th place? We have zero chance of winning CL, or even genuinely competing in it.”
It’s worth like £40-50m, no? That kind of matters.
Nor will VAR strike twice in such a way again
“but those first two Spurs goals were almost entirely down to bad mistakes from Laporte and somewhat lax defending from City.
Typical Guardiola team in a champions league knockout tie.
Spurs and Ajax will be a fun game to watch, Vertonghen, Sanchez, Alderweireld and Erikson all returning to their former club as well.
Manchester City 4 Tottenham Hotspur 3.
Spurs …
What
The
Actual
Fuck
Also let’s cool it with the spurs love in. They’re still Tottenham, fuck em
Leeds
If the unthinkable happens and it’s a Liverpool v Spurs final, I’ll find my inner scouser (even if he doesn’t exist) and go with Liverpool all the way.
It’s one thing facing deluded Spurs fans over here in North London every day.
Facing Spurs fans who’d actually won something, and not just something but the Champions League is a thought too unbearable to contemplate.
And then we’d have Un Battle crowing all the time about the Clean Money and the Virtuous English Corr of Spurs.
Oh God even the thought sends me into spasms of horror….
*English core
Dear Arsenal
Please please please for the sake of Gooners everywhere do not blow it tomorrow.
If we get knocked out Europa League the night after Spurs have progressed to the UCL semi finals… well… it’s a matter of pride more than anything.
Personal nightmare for me
Pool winning league
Spurs winning big cup….
Slash wrist time listening to Leonard cohen….
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156339369167879&id=760342878
This is the angle they didn’t show on the VAR replay. Watch it and it clearly shows the ball striking his arm and ricocheting down onto his hip and into the goal.
I recorded it off of the BT sport highlights programme and put it public on my Facebook.
Thoughts?
Please don’t laugh too much at my Bristolian accent!
Yeah I’m with HL, that’s enough of that talk. I was going to respond earlier regarding the would you rather hypothetical about Pool or Spuds, and I literally couldn’t bring myself to fathom it and just stopped typing.
I would take a 4-3 loss tomorrow. Fucking hell.
Benny
It was pretty clear to me on replay that the ball hit off Llorente’s arm before hitting his hip for the goal. You can see this forearm muscles shake on impact, the commentators on stream I was watching did bring it up as well.
Even then I don’t think I disallow that goal, his arm was pretty much down and he had no idea where the ball was when it hit off him.
An acerbic ( and slightly harsh) analysis on the fledgling managerial career of OGS by the unremitting PedRo, and I off course thank him for it. Man Utd could have had the best manager in the world in charge and they would still have succumbed to the Genius of Messi. By the time he retires pro soccer- he will be around the 700 goal mark. And to think Arsene Wenger was a cigarette paper away from signing him and Cesc combined from Barcas’ youth team. But not to worry…. we may not have Messi on the Pitch but ….We certainly… Read more »
I had no idea this post was running parallel with the last one during the game.
Everybody should go over and see Un Battle Angel’s shameless support and cheering for Tottenham it is unfuckingbelievabke!
And coming from someone who claims only a Londoner can truly be a proper Arsenal fan and know what it truly feels to be one. His sickening ass licking of Tottenham renders him completely irrelevant from heron in.
This season is going to end a nightmare for me even if we end up finishing 3rd and winning the EL.
Liverpool winning the league is bad enough but the scenario of Liverpool winning the league and Spuds winning the CL makes me want to pass out.
If it should happen to be a Liverpool Spurs final then the unthinkable will happen and I will have to be a Liverpool fan for the night.
I feel sick.
Bd
You obviously have not seen my coruscating piece then….
I suggest you sit down first.
CG,
Arsene Wenger was a cigarette paper away from signing every world class player that ever lived from 97 onwards from Zidane to CR7. The fact it didn’t happen though should tell you that either his judgement was off and his dithering cost us or they didn’t rate him.
Both I suspect.
I think the away goal rule should be scrapped. That match deserved to be won outright either in another half hour of extra time or with a penalty shootout.
He clearly became more in decisive as the older he got.
That is a normal reflex.
But for all the near misses.
There were plenty of good uns:
Anelka , Henry,Cesc,Hector, Rambo, Vieria, carzola, Kanu, RVP, Eduardo,, Edu,Rambo, etc etc
Wenger gave us footballing memories that can’t be erased. So many highs. Lots of Lows too.
He made us love Arsenal even more than we thought was possible.
This Emery. He is a stuff of nightmares.
Thomas Tuchel on leaving Kylian Mbappé out of the squad for PSG’s 3-2 loss vs. Nantes this evening: “It was my decision. I have no need to give an explanation. This is my management. This was a decision taken between myself & the player.”
Sounds like trouble in paradise
Chelsea had no chance in 2012 and look what happened. I’m not sure you can compare Spurs to them in all honesty. For one thing Chelsea were actually winning league titles and trophies and were progressing it was only a matter of time before they won the Champions League and frankly it’ll only be a matter of time before City and PSG win it also. Spurs on the other hand have zero experience of winning anything in fact as good as they’ve been the last few years they still struggle to sustain a title challenge to a meaningful later date.… Read more »
Jesus. Reading the comments in the Guardian from the Spuds supporters…complete delusion. They seem to have their club pegged as plucky underdogs with a squad assembled on a shoestring. And Poch is possibly the greatest manager in the world…I can’t wait for a club with even less money (Ajax) and a less heralded Manager In Ten Hag to knock them out. They cannot have the pleasure of going to a final, even if they will be whipped. Barca v Ajax.
Marko, plus Spuds will come in to the game this time not as underdogs. That will play on them..
Charlie, even if Wenger had signed Messi he would have tried turning him into a left back or something. Better he grew up in the system at Barca and we have had the pleasure of seeing one of the greatest players in history.
plus Spuds will come in to the game this time not as underdogs.
That’s true
This season is on a knife edge. As it stands, Chelsea could win the Euro Cup, Spuds the CL and Liverpool the league. That is the worst case scenario. Even if we make third that makes it one of the worst seasons I can remember. Equally, we could win the Euro, Ajax win the CL and City with the league: with Spuds crashing out of top 4. All in the balance.
What the fuck just happened?? If spurs win the UCL I will give up football … I don’t want to even contemplate a scenario where they win Champions league
Go Barca or Ajax
Un na has to be the most absurd poster ever on this blog.
Loathe him or love him, he’s a very colorful character
Those shameless waving of pompoms for Spuds will forever live in infamy
Now I have to wake up to the real possibility that Spuds could eke past Ajax and beat Barca in a one-off final match.
Stranger things have happened in this sport.
Messi will stop spurs
City need to hammer the shit out of them this weekend
Hopefully spurs luck run out
Anyone that finds Un/Don or whatever he calls himself amusing or lovable is taking the piss, the guy is a thick-headed simpleton. And imbeciles like him add nothing to the conversation only incoherent nonsense, most likely a burden to society and family members alike.
Jason
Haha if you only knew. I the majority of my labour force are family and I pay them well. My Mrs doesn’t have to work and hasn’t for 5 years
And I am lovable. How would you know? You’ve never snuggled with me.
They cannot have the pleasure of going to a final, even if they will be whipped. Barca v Ajax.
Moray
So it was a pleasure to be at European final? Thanks Arsene
Look at the genuine outrage for a crass oil club getting shown up. All the money in the world. Best players, best coach, best coaching staff and undone by a few lower league Brits and European bargains.
Football won last night.
Dissenter
I know you got my back bro. Fist pump 🤛👌
EmiratesstrollerApril 17, 2019 21:55:09 First of all congratulations to Spurs in winning this tie. I know that this comment will annoy a lot of other posters.However, one thing is for sure Manchester City will be absolutely furious by what has happened and will probably thrash Spurs in this weekend’s League game. Spurs have very limited resources and I suspect that they will be knackered after tonight’s effort.Spurs are not going to win the Champions League and frankly the more games they have to play the better it will be for Arsenal’s prospects in finishing in top 4.It should not be… Read more »
bennydevito
“his dithering cost us or they didn’t rate him”
Your first point is obvious . As for point #2, the players you highlight were born winners. Of course they weren’t going to come and play for him/us.
Those few world class players we did have, became disillusioned and fed up with his methods and philosophies, especially when they could see that it was never going to bare fruit.
Up until 2010, he just about got away with things but thereafter it was downhill nearly all the way.
Spurs and Ajax are leaving the way and developing young gems and turning them into considerable players on the biggest stage.
An example to us all. Don’t forget, most of the all conquering Barca side were domestic talents who were educated in the Spanish doctrines of the sport. You play to your own strengths. Not just keep importing the next cheapish ready made option. It’s crass and the sport is losing its life blood because of it
Spuds will be under far more pressure against Ajax, because they are expected to win.
I genuinely believe Ajax will beat them.
I hope Ajax win the Champions League. That would be a win for total football… and a refreshing change from cheque book football management.
No surprise that so many Arsenal supporters are pissed off that Spuds won last night. However, from a footballing perspective and the greater joy and appreciation of the game, I’m glad MC are gone. It should be obvious to you all why, as has already been highlighted by other posters on here. The simple fact of the matter is that football is governed by greed and power. Going out and buying success, which both MC and Chelski have done over the past fifteen years, doesn’t sit well with me. Ok it’s Spuds but at the end of the day, football… Read more »
Graham
Well said. The other posters clearly agree as they are cheering on Ajax who are doing things the right way. It’s a lot harder for spurs to compete at this level because they are the 6th richest club in England yet still punching above their weight through clever recruitment and utilising young British talent
Fair play to them
If our funds are limited as it is being reported, personally I would rather we focused on revamping our defence with outside reinforcements than spending money on a winger this summer. We need a commanding centre back and a new left back. If we strengthen our defence we will lessen our need for our forwards to take their chances so much. Then promote W.illock, Saka Nketiah and Ballard. When ESR, Martinez, Chambers and Reiss Nelson come back from their loans make them squad players. Having said that if we sell Mustafi, Elneny, Jenkinson, Pleguezuelo, Mkhitaryan, Asano, Ospina and Nwakali well… Read more »
Predictions for tonight gentleman( ladies?).
Napoli 2 Arsenal 1.
Napoli 1 Arsenal 1
1-1 to arsenal
We are gonna thrash them 1-1
Leedsgunner
“refreshing change”
Are you old enough to remember the old Woodpecker Cider Ads?
Go on you tube. Guy at bus stop.
Classic.
To all those who said overmars played no part in the assembly of this current Ajax team
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2019/04/17/arsenal-fans-demand-return-marc-overmars-ajax-stun-juventus-champions-league-9227148/amp/
Get this man back to Arsenal.
Agree, Ajax winning would make “a refreshing change”.
Spurs vs City was the craziest football match I have ever watched. Absolutely blockbuster stuff. Congratulations Spurs ! Beating a petroleum funded billion dollar team without Harry Kane, Lamela, Winks, Dier and Aurier and without spending a single penny since Jan 2018 is incredible. Pep mocked Spurs by calling them a ‘Harry Kane team’, Poch must have felt proud beating them without Kane. Dodgy team selection from Pep in both legs. KDB and Sane not picked in the first leg and then Fernandinho and Sane not picked in the return leg. To concede 3 goals at home against Spurs sans… Read more »
Spurs were singing chants mocking us yesterday after their loss which put them into the semis.
Yet you go on twitter and on here, and you have Arsenal fans wishing them well and congratulating them?
Strangest.fanbase.bar none.
The fluctuation of emotions on this board regarding Pep is hilarious. Seems like people just wait until he doesn’t win something to come out of the woodworks.
The guy is the best manager we’ve seen in a while by quite some margin. I suspect a lot of the anger comes from the fact they murked us in the UCL for what seems like every season for a 5 year stretch.
Excellent post TR7 And As you state -what with the injuries he has had as well. A managerial masterclass on show here. And Talking of managerial master classes – Klopp and Liverpool in another semi CL semi final. Quite simply- Liverpool and Spurs have found the right manager for their respective clubs.. We most certainly have not. Patrick Vieira must be recruited next season- to take on these ever improving clubs . If we go into another season with the emery/Raul combo – we might as admit- we have finished competing at the top level.That is such a lukewarm and… Read more »
Klopp took 3 seasons and massive investment to get where pool are. Emery inheriting many average wengerised players with minimal investment is already showing decent results.
Perhaps some people live in a less factual world than others,
Perhaps they also have no understanding of the time element required to build anything.
CG
When was the last time we competed “at the top level?”
A fair few years wouldn’t you say?
Let’s focus on tonight.
Why does everyone poo poo spuds chances of winning the damn thing, I don’t mind saying that I am shitting myself they are going to win it, it seems everything is going for them with the new stadium etc. I know I probably am a pessimistic gooner but this has echoes of Chelsea all over again. Please don’t tell me to relax as Ajax will 100% beat them.
One consolation no Son for 1 st leg- suspended
Graham
“””Let’s focus on tonight”””
I have been supporting Arsenal for over 50 years. I will never focus ,worry over a bloody Europa Cup match.
It is toilet.
UEFA s dumping ground for failing clubs.
I worry about Premier League matches and Champions League and FA Cup.
We have the Top 4 places to cement a CL place.That should be ample opportunity to achieve our goals.
Not one for destiny but I feel Spurs have their name etched on the CL trophy. Felt the same way about Chelsea in 2012., Queen’s jubilee and all that, seemed inevitable that the Royal Borough of K and Chelsea would have something even bigger to celebrate. With Spurs it’s the new stadium and the year of Brexit, seems inevitable an English club will win the CL. Just hope it’s Liverpool. Rather Ajax of course. I can still recall the brilliance of that 70’s Ajax team. And bear in mind that Feyenoord were the first Dutch team to win the European… Read more »
“I have been supporting Arsenal for over 50 years. I will never focus ,worry over a bloody Europa Cup match.”
Worse than a troll : a kid with no brain.
Its an unpredictable one tonight. Napoli and their wild animal warlike fans will spur their players on with ruthless intent to beat us. However, an arsenal goal will probably get those same fans melting away and ultimately,(hopefully) jeering their team.
We have a good chance, and a lot will depend on the officials….you can rest assured all the dirty tricks in the penalty box will be coming out…pulling diving appealing…….
Ajax are the team of the moment. Natural very talented super fit players. Spurs have a chance, but for me its ajax….and I think only messi or salah can stop them.
“an arsenal goal will probably get those same fans melting away ”
Well in this case, I hope that Laca and Auba will start together…
If Auba start alone, I will start to worry.
CG To be honest I’m getting fed up with with your nonstop diatribe. You’re blinded by your own warped belief that Emery is shite and not what you expected. The Europa League or “dumping ground” as you call it, is where we are. Who the fudge put us there? If you’ve supported Arsenal for over 50 years( hard to believe) you should be more attuned to the fact that we are in a new cycle of change and that when change occurs, sometimes you’ve got to accept the consequences. You worry about playing Sutton in the FA Cup and not… Read more »
Liverpool have also had help from owners, we havent. All very magnanimous towards Spurs,somehow doubt it would be reciprocated if the tables are turned,or we end up the ones with a European trophy. What this all does demonstrate is the crushing stasis, the lack of ambition,planning, and complete ineptitude of our manager at the time, later to be joined by Gazidis and Kroenke which only made things worse. Spurs are nowhere the best side in Europe, i am not sure they are even a lot better,if at all, than us, but they have taken opportunities thrown their way. Something our… Read more »
We most certainly have not.
Patrick Vieira must be recruited next season- to take on these ever improving clubs .”
Some of the same posters you are lauding are the same ones LOL’ing at Klopp and Poch a couple of years ago.
Klopp was deemed “too emotional” back then and “overrated”. He’s always been a good manager but the knee-jerk reactions and people with agendas always get shown up.
Graham
“”””You worry about playing Sutton in the FA Cup and not a QF match against Napoli in the Europa League?Shame on you!””””
As a traditionalist- I think the FA Cup is the best tournament in football.
I happen to think The Europa Cup is the worst
That’s, as always – my honest opinion.
And why are you so sneering towards Sutton FC ???
Clubs like Sutton are the lifeblood of our game.
The only reason CG still spouts his nonsense here is because you lot keep replying him, ignore and he’ll disappear because it’s not like his opinions are contrary or anything, its just that all he says doesn’t even begin to make any kind of sense
As always you turn things around to fit your own agenda.
If you don’t feel anything about tonight’s game, you are not worthy of being called an Arsenal supporter.
Oh that’s right, it’s all Emery’s fault.
Batistuta
I know.
Klopp took 3 seasons and massive investment to get where pool are. Emery inheriting many average wengerised players with minimal investment is already showing decent results. Perhaps some people live in a less factual world than others, Perhaps they also have no understanding of the time element required to build anything.” We have seen massive improvement regardless of whether we finish top 4 or just barely miss out on it. In the hunt for top 3-4 a season after we finished 37 points behind the league winners? Massive improvement. The jury is still out on Emery because the ultimate goal… Read more »
The FA Cup has, regrettably, long died a death.
It’s amazing how there’s always at least one “troll” poster at any given time on this blog. Pedro nukes one and another one appears under a different handle spouting the same sort of incoherent babble.
Graham
I will watch and observe.
But it will hardly get the pulses racing.
(Unlike last night pay per view offerings )
The Europa Cup is utter codswallop.
If you honestly think this tournament has any prestige or footballing merit- I doubt you even love football.
I doubt even Napoli will be trying too hard.
They have already qualified for next seasons CL by dint of being in the top4.
“””The FA Cup has, regrettably, long died a death.”””
Yes
But with an innovative FA Chief Executive- can off course be revived.
It has all the ingredients.
Just needs nurture.Not neglecting
For some the importance of CL qualification is the £40-50m revenue. How brainwashed they have become about money! And not on the ball, either. Winning the Europa Cup brings in more.
Graham To be honest , Charlie George’s “diatribe” is pretty similar to your diatribe that we have been reading over the last couple of years. You (amongst others) refused to enjoy / celebrate our FA cup victories and now you (amongst others) are getting the hump because he is holding similar views to your anti wenger diatribe. I am not in agreement with Charlie George that the quarter final 2nd leg the v Napoli is not a game to get excited about . This game is the reason why we support a football team as were our splendid FA cup… Read more »
Brainwashed? Without more investment we will fall even further behind the 5 teams around us, that money is vital and playing in the CL helps attract another level of players as well.
I can agree that the Europa league isn’t the most prestigious out there but it’s not like we’re spoilt with European trophies , that and we need all the cash we can get.
Yes, I know, winning the Europa qualifies the Club for CL as well. Not that it matters a great deal unless Emery is given the chance to strengthen the squad in all areas.
Why wasting time to respond to dumb CG ?? He’s a lost cause…
I’m sure if I was to look back at the comments on Le Grove 12 months ago , I would find many similar posts from the wenger obsessives denigrating the Europa cup.
No matter what way people dress up the success of Spurs, the fact remains that a CL final win by them would be an utter disaster for us. Chelsea fans already rub their success in our faces, but a Spurs win would lift the degree of taunt to another level. No longer could we throw 60 years and counting at them. The Wenger / Gazides years are on a par with what fans of my age remember about the 60s. A rudderless club, with Spurs way ahead of us. We couldn’t even beat third division Swindon. Shocking!
Spurs are 4-1 to win the Champions League.
If you think it’s destiny stick 20 on it, might as well profit on the inevitable misery.
Tonight’s game is what I would call a no win situation for Emery, if we get through he will.not receive too much credit unless we go there and totally outplay napoli and win by 2 or 3 goals( can’t really see that happening)
If we fail to qualify then he will receive copious amounts of criticism.
It could be a difficult night for our manager if he gets his tactics and team selection wrong.
Spurs have done well to reach the semis. Them winning the whole thing would be a a hard wake up call but goes to show how being ambitious can pay off. Liverpool and Spurs didn’t just sit back and “accept” that they couldn’t compete with the “oil money” clubs. Something that has been repeated ad nauseam here as a means to excuse our failings the last decade + .