Luis Campos: Our new god?

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OUR NEW GOD

Sooooo, Denis Suarez is set to be returned from whence he came.

The pretty Spaniard has not made much of an impact. Not really surprising, is it? If you’re 25-years-old and a Spanish analyst says you’ve had one good 6 months in your career, the chances of you landing in the Premier League and bossing it like peak-Ronaldo are slim. It was an odd signing. Some might say Unai Emery’s very own Kimmy K moment. SOME I SAID. Calm yourself.

The real banter train that’s hurtling towards us this summer is the transfer market that’s being driven by a Raul and Emery combo team. The hope is that Sven Mislinatat left his password protected hard drive open and we’re raiding that beauty for all the tasty morsels.

If not, expect a smattering of rejects that are struggling at top clubs, exbestpals of Emery, combined with a touch of bizarre.

I cannot wait.

There’s an Italian journo linking us with Luis Campos, not sure if there’s any truth to that or it’s just that I’ve screaming his name like a 14-year-old fan boy at his first Boyzone concert… what a time that was… what a time. Miss you, Stephen.

The other item I was musing is this: Does Raul really want a technical director? He had Sven at the club and ignored him despite a pretty good track record. Part of me thinks he just wants someone in as a cover story so he can live out his Championship Manager dreams.

Ok… I’m not getting upset

*squeally tearful voice*

I just really miss Sven. What did he do that was so wrong? He was just here minding his own business, bringing in cool players and then he’s let go… LIKE A PIECE OF SAUSAGE DOWN THE DRAIN.

The AS Roma boss went to TOWN on Monchi.

“I appreciate that Monchi never set out to fail at Roma but I want to make something very clear; right from the start, I was very clear about the direction I wanted us to go in and that’s why we spent a lot of money bringing Monchi in.

“From the start, I said I wanted first class coaches, first-class performance staff, first-class medical staff, first-class scouting and recruitment and a first-class football organisation. I gave Monchi the keys to deliver that. I gave him 100% control to appoint the coach he wanted, to employ the assistant coaches and the performance staff, to manage the scouting and to bring in the players he wanted. If you look at our results and our performances, it’s clear that this hasn’t worked.

“In November, when our season was going from bad to worse and everyone could see that the coach was struggling to get a reaction out of the players, I asked Monchi for his Plan B should things continue to get worse. He had sole responsibility for football operations at Roma but he didn’t have a Plan B. That was November. He said his Plan B was just to keep doing the same as Plan A.”

Woooooahhhhh… we spent 10 years bitching about Wenger’s lack of a PLAN B.

That is quite the assassination from the Roma boss.

My big fear with Monchi was that we were buying a man adept at punching above his weight for a small team. I’d imagine, like in business, there are specialists that can operate well as specific sizes of business. He was very smart in cutting a market for himself with a small club that could act as a second life for broken players that were undervalued.

‘Come play in the sun, eat good food and drink wine. No pressure.’

I think he struggled when an instant impact was asked of him. Say what you will about Emery, he’ll only make it into the third year of his deal if he’s made substantial gains at Arsenal. Football is too quick to allow people to build empires without significant year on year improvements.

Monchi couldn’t crack it at Roma. He sold too many elite bodies too soon and he filled the pipeline with average.

That. Could. Have. Been. Us.

Now Raul has run out of contacts, perhaps it’s time to go back to the job spec and reassess what we really want from a Technical Director.

For me, the following:

  1. Someone who can work comfortably in the youth range, and in the 17-23 bracket
  2. Someone with a reputation for installing exciting coaches
  3. A person with a deep understanding of technology and data
  4. A true believer in playing the game the beautiful way

This is Luis Campos on the English.

“I think most English clubs don’t know how to recruit for an issue that I almost think is cultural as almost everyone makes the same mistake. English clubs really like top attacking players, yet to a large extent make them play alongside medium-quality defences”

YES!

Get him in.

Right, that’s me done. Off to a style guide meeting. Fun times. x

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  1. Moray

    Someone who can work comfortably in the youth range, and in the 17-23 bracket
    Someone with a reputation for installing exciting coaches
    A person with a deep understanding of technology and data
    A true believer in playing the game the beautiful way

    That’s Steve Morrow!

  2. Words on a Blog

    I know I’m really revealing my ignorance but I frantically googled “Luis Campos” after reading Pedro’s piece.

    I panicked when Wikipedia told me that he was a Mexican jazz and rock drummer also known as “Chocs”!!!

    Jesus, I thought, we must have REALLY wide selection criteria for the job of Technical Football Sirector!

    Or maybe Pedro’s just gone crazy with despair at how long things are taking.

    Luckily, the next Wikipedia entry tells me Luis C is also something BIG on the technical side of football.

    Unfortunately, he’s apparently being considered as Head of Football by Chelsea..

  3. Words on a Blog

    Arsenal Football Technical Director Job Specs:

    1) Ability to put your name forward for the decisions that Raul takes;
    2) Ability to take the rap if those decisions fail

  4. HighburyLegend

    “Alfred Schreuder, assistant coach of Ajax Amsterdam, will be next season the coach of the German team Hoffenheim, succeeding to Julian Nagelsmann, announced the club Tuesday.”

    O – M – F*cking – God…. Pedro, Nagelsmann will be free next summer!!! lol

  5. Guns of SF

    Luis Campos…hmmm

    So what is solution to this English problem?
    But an attacker that is also good at defending?
    Buying better defenders?

    All of the above?

    Whatever, just find us the next Mbappe and were cool

  6. Guns of SF

    Sven is a pussy for leaving us. Whatever. I dont want someone like that at the club. Someone who has little cojones and leaves at the first sign of dischord

  7. jwl

    How is Suarez situation anything like Kimmy K fiasco? Wenger brings in player with broken back who can’t play for another month when we were still in title race while Suarez was healthy but does not have stamina for English league. It was worthwhile experiment that didn’t turn out.

  8. jwl

    And I think people are over- intellectualizing the job of technical director because identifying players is all done by computer now. We need someone who is capable of building a balanced squad with quality young players, it not that difficult when all info you need is collated in nifty spreadsheets for you.

  9. Words on a Blog

    Pedro,
    I know I’ve been sarcastic about Arsenal’s ongoing search for a Technical Director, but your 4 criteria for the role are spot on, with the focus on comfort with working with young players and technology/data.

    Having said, that, and at the risk of going all Charlie George, it’s interesting that so far all the candidates being bandied around are not English.

    At this very moment, German Football is going through one of its periods of existential angst and reappraisal (they’ll get through it better and stronger like they did before) after their poor performance at the World Cup, at various Youth Levels, and now in the Champions League.

    Who are the Germans looking to learn from? The England national and youth set-up.

    And where are they looking to source young talent from?

    English clubs. (They’re also looking to draw lessons from the way EPL clubs’ academies are set up.)

    I don’t have any particular knowledge about any of the people involved, but I’d imagine there were a few English candidates suitable for the role…..

  10. Marko

    If not, expect a smattering of rejects that are struggling at top clubs, exbestpals of Emery, combined with a touch of bizarre.

    So pretty much what we’re use to the last 10-20 years. I don’t buy the ex best pals jibe either but who knows. Actually the links that have been knocking about the last couple months of summer arrivals have been by and large promising. Konate, Grimaldo, Tagliafico, Pepe and now Wan Bissaka are something I can get behind. Also the Campos stuff is pointless to discuss cause there doesn’t seem to be anything to the links. Which is unfortunate

  11. Marko

    English clubs. (They’re also looking to draw lessons from the way EPL clubs’ academies are set up.)

    It’s actually funny you should say that because English academies are having a good time of it lately because for a number of years there they were picking up foreign coaches and heads of whatever to spearhead their academies. Far more successful than the whole cap on foreign players shite they always threatened

  12. Words on a Blog

    Marko, yeah probably should have said something along the lines of “with England youth and EPL academy experience” rather than just “English”

  13. Dissenter

    Didn’t Suarez get some valuable minutes against United ?
    We still have 8 league games and up to 5 UEFA cup games left in the season. He will get games here and there. This was more of an audition that is not going on well for Suarez at the moment.
    It’s absurd to even suggest Suarez was another Kallstrom. I’m told the international break’s boredom helps to out people’s agenda.

  14. Leedsgunner

    Someone who can work comfortably in the youth range, and in the 17-23 bracket

    Someone with a reputation for installing exciting coaches

    A person with a deep understanding of technology and data

    A true believer in playing the game the beautiful way

    We had the perfect candidate… his name was Sven — and we allowed Raul to get rid of him… why?

    At least us fans could voice our displeasure to Wenger on match days when he stood in the dugout, how can we hold Raul (or any of the them for that matter) accountable if they don’t perform?

  15. Tezzer

    With all the praise about our fantastic youth system and the fantastic players we have coming through would it be a bit radical to look at a team including all our up and coming prospects filled in by the players we want to keep from the 1st team at the moment ….not sign any one over the summer unless we really have a problem position. …look what it did for man u in the early 90s ….we have some fantastic looking youngsters who need some fath and a chance to shine ….if we keep buying players with big fees we are still taking a gamble because you don’t know how they will perform in the English league ….give the youngsters a chance …. supposedly we have a restricted budget it might be the ideal time to give them there chance

  16. Marko

    Someone who can work comfortably in the youth range, and in the 17-23 bracket

    Someone with a reputation for installing exciting coaches

    Worth noting though Sven gave the nod to the hiring of Emery and Lichtsteiner and Sokratis for example were his signings. Would still have kept him though

  17. Leedsgunner

    Unless an outstanding external candidate turns up, I say give Steve Morrow the job. He already heads up the scouting team for our U23s and the academy and he is familiar with how we operate. At least with him we can hit the ground running and prepare for the transfer window. Let him prove himself on a rolling contract… with an option to extend for the club if he does well. What do we have to lose?

    The longer we allow this search to go on we put our transfer plans into chaos and we’re in danger of sabotaging next season. Make no mistake next season, if Emery qualifies for the Champions’ League, it is going to be absolutely crucial.

    Chelsea and Man City may be barred from participating for the next few windows… it would be a crying shame if we couldn’t take full advantage of it because we were waiting for the “perfect” candidate.

    Qualifying for the Champion’s League is absolutely paramount… if we do, it will be easier to attract players and the sporting director that we want.

  18. Pedro

    Wish people would stop underplaying this role. It’s one of the most important at the club, and if we get it wrong, we’re an irrelevance for the next 5 years.

    It is a very hard job and very, very important.

  19. Pierre

    Saurez looks quite a nice tidy player , good technically and appears to like passing to his own team mate ….a skill that is often underrated by many on Le Grove.

    Sadly it doesn’t look like he will be given a real chance to show us if he is up to standard ….maybe he isn’t very good at tracking back.

    I and a few others on Le Grove did question the signing of Saurez as he looks a similar player to Ozil and Mhkitaryan so it was pretty obvious that he was going to struggle for game time especially as Iwobi is an Emery favourite.

    I’m surprised that our manager hasn’t come under severe criticism from Marko,receding hairline,Bamford, dissenter etc for the Saurez cock up…..imagine if Wenger had made this decision in the knowledge that we were struggling defensively in December and January.

  20. Guns of SF

    Chelsea and Man City may be barred from participating for the next few windows… it would be a crying shame if we couldn’t take full advantage of it because we were waiting for the “perfect” candidate.

    Qualifying for the Champion’s League is absolutely paramount… if we do, it will be easier to attract players and the sporting director that we want.

    Amen to this

  21. Leedsgunner

    “Wish people would stop underplaying this role. It’s one of the most important at the club, and if we get it wrong, we’re an irrelevance for the next 5 years.”

    Agreed. Why did we allow Raul to fire Seven, on what appears to be a whim or because of a personality clash then? Just who does Raul think he is?!? Due to his power building our club has been left exposed.

    At least if you’re going to fire someone, only let them go once you’ve secured the successor… it’s been completely amateurish how the club has gone about things.

    We had a world class operator in Sven and we completely bungled it up.

  22. Pierre

    Tezzer
    I’m with you on promoting youth into the first team, they have shown in the cup games that they can handle the pressure so now is the time to draft 3 or 4 of them into the squad unless we decide to bring in more players similar to the Saurez loan signing which will push our youth further down the ladder.

    That was another reason for criticising the Saurez loan as it restricted game time for players like Saka,Smith rowe and Willock .

  23. Leedsgunner

    “Why did we allow Raul to fire Sven, on what appears to be a whim or because of a personality clash then? Just who does Raul think he is?!? Due to his power building our club has been left exposed.”

    Furthermore, who at club is going to keep Raul accountable, or he is beyond criticism? Because from where I’m standing he looks to have made some very bad calls very early into his tenure.

    No man is bigger than the club. Not Arsene, and definitely not Raul.

  24. Dissenter

    Pierre
    “I’m surprised that our manager hasn’t come under severe criticism from Marko,receding hairline,Bamford, dissenter etc for the Saurez cock up…..imagine if Wenger had made this decision in the knowledge that we were struggling defensively in December and January”

    As usual, you are just trolling around
    Keep up with your Wenger-grief
    The club didn’t have money to spend this summer, the manager stated so publicly and is yet to be controverted. We needed a midfielder who could play on the wings, hence Suarez.
    We worked harder this January than we ever did under Wenger; kicking every tire that was possible. We even tried to signs Almiron on loan- that’s how far we went.
    There was no money to buy a defender…and besides our crocked defenders were going to return back from injury [except for Holding and Bellerin].

    We don’t have money partly because your Lord mismanaged the footballing aspect of the club and is still drawing a fat pay-aff as we speak.

  25. Guns of SF

    Leeds

    Why Sven? What did he bring us that another scout could not unearth?
    Sokratis Licht? Auba?

    Hardly gems he unearthed. Guen- yes, but I think any other good scout would have had him on a list too. Lucas ditto

  26. Dissenter

    Guns
    Leave Leeds alone and let him continue to on about Sven Mislintat.

    Monchi didn’t do so well as Roma, same as Mislintat didn’t do that great at Arsenal.
    Don’t tell them that though.

  27. Receding Hairline

    Torriera after the initial gra gra has turned out to be not all that..guy is legit struggling right now. We are relying on the much maligned Xhaka and the Turin bound Ramsey to see us over the line.

    I will go easy on calling Guendouzi a gem…i am yet to understand what aspect of the game he is meant to be good at. Running around with energy and being fearless are not footballing skills.

  28. Pierre

    Dissenter
    So are you saying that the loan signing of Saurez made sense…

    None of what I have said is in hindsight….it was a loan that was doomed to fail.

    Quite amusing that you are putting the blame on Wenger for the Saurez fiasco.

  29. Receding Hairline

    “None of what I have said is in hindsight….it was a loan that was doomed to fail.”

    Mkhi was struggling with injury, we needed experienced cover for him. Don’t know why you are obsessed with Suarez though but whatever

  30. Graham62

    I’m no expert in psychology and studying people’s body language, nevertheless , it was clear from day one that Denis Suarez didn’t want to be at the club and more significantly, had little or no desire to pull on the Arsenal shirt.

    Can I apply for the job of Director of Recruitment?

    Zero motivation and zero personality. More suited to being a choir boy.

    Good riddance.

  31. Pierre

    Receding
    If you want to criticise Torreira ,you should maybe look at our manager’s contribution to his regression.

    He started off playing in front of the back 4 and look ready made for the job .However ,in December Emery decided that Torreira needs to be more offensive and that’s when he started to struggle.
    He hasn’t the legs or energy to play box to box , he was often left floundering as the game passed him by. .

    Torreira just needs to get back to what he does best .

  32. Pierre

    Receding Hairline
    Mkhi was struggling with injury, we needed experienced cover for him”

    Iwobi, Ramsey,Ozil ,Mhkitaryan, Saka and Smith rowe ….all can do what Saurez was signed to do ….it was doomed to fail..

  33. Graham62

    Pierre

    Of course Wenger was not to blame for the “Suarez fiasco”…………………….Or was he?

    If.he hadn’t sanctioned the Ozil and Alexis shambles,we could have gone out and actually bought some players.

    There’s always a core to the problem Pierre.

  34. þorkell einarsson

    Who is making all these dumb decisions at AFC.. ??
    Ramsey
    Suarez
    and now shipping out AMN and Nelson for a defender ??
    we have Mavrapoanos and Medley coming .. they need to play
    and be trusted

  35. Pierre

    Dissenter
    “There was no money to buy a defender…and besides our crocked defenders were going to return back from injury”

    Actually we were down to the bare bones re defenders and if we had picked up a couple of more injuries things could have become pretty desperate .

    Emery gambled by not bringing in a defender and luckily for him, the gamble came off.

  36. Dissenter

    Graham62
    Actually, signing players on loan with no obligation ought to be the way of the future.
    Had we done that we wouldn’t not have Mustafi on our books.
    Suarez cannot even be labeled a failure yet. He may very well be the player that pushes us to a Europa cup win.
    Lets wait till May, shall we.

  37. Pierre

    Graham
    Actually( as much as you don’t want to hear this ) but wenger did not sanction the Ozil contract , he may have wanted him to stay but he was against paying him such a ludicrous wage .

  38. Dissenter

    Pierre
    There’s no big deal in a 6-MONTH LOAN failing.
    It’s an audition that’s not even fair to Suarez. How do you do well in a new club with a different culture without the benefit of a pre-season?
    We set it up to protect ourselves should it “fail”

  39. Leedsgunner

    Torreira is a destroyer and plays a role very similar to that Kante did when he played at Leicester.

    He should be told to just sit in front our defence and destroy opposition attacks and then to start the counter attack by quickly recycling the ball to our creative players like Özil. He was doing this wonderfully earlier in the season.

    Frankly, the boy is just jaded. The ability is still there but given the tempo he usually plays each game, I’m not surprised he’s run out of gas. I’m glad Emery is sitting him out… the last thing we need is for Lucas to become another injury magnet because we’ve burnt him out in his first season… like Wilshere.

    He needs another player like him to share the load. Before it became popular, Declan Rice at West Ham was someone that we should have gone for in January… if we had the money to do

    We should just stop expecting our players to defend and attack for the sake of it and play to their strengths.

  40. Pierre

    Plus the Sanchez deal is being proven to be a good piece of business as Sanchez is gone as a player and Mhkitaryan ,if used correctly, will prove to be a very good signing.

  41. Pierre

    Leeds
    “Torreira is a destroyer and plays a role very similar to that Kante did when he played at Leicester.”

    Spot on …he has been misused by the manager but I’m sure he will come to his senses in the end just as he has with Ozil.

  42. Dissenter

    Actually( as much as you don’t want to hear this ) but wenger did not sanction the Ozil contract , he may have wanted him to stay but he was against paying him such a ludicrous wage .

    You’re making stuff up Pierre…as usual
    Mesut Ozil contract was the cheapest option, says Arsene Wenger
    “When you let a player go you have to buy somebody of the same calibre and if you add the wages needed it will be similar,” he said. “On top of that we have to pay a transfer. So overall I think Mesut for us was the cheapest option. On the other side all of our players are well paid. Very well paid. To feel sorry for them – I’m not sure that it’s the most objective assessment.”
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/02/02/mesut-ozil-contract-cheapest-option-says-arsene-wenger/

  43. Receding Hairline

    Pierre i didn’t hear your complaints when Torriera burst through on goal and calmly finished against Spurs

    You seem wedded to the idea a footballer is only allowed to do one thing right and asking them to make the most of their abilities is overworking them…

    the fullbacks shouldn’t go forward but sit , Torriera should just sit in front of the back four doing nothing else, Ozil should just create chances and do flicks …your understanding of the game is weird

  44. Dissenter

    Torriera played more forward cetral midfielder role for Sampdoria last season. He’s also played the same role for his country sevral times. He’s a more versatile player that many here may want to believe.
    Talking about the player being “misused” is dim because you’ve only watched him for two thirds of the season.

  45. jwl

    Pedro – I agree technical director is important job but you, and professional clubs, are making this seem more difficult than it is, you’s all debbie downers.

    The article other week you posted about clubs now hiring quantum physicists to look at data was ridiculous, identifying quality players is now easier than it ever was and clubs are making it seem like it’s rocket science.

    All data club needs is readily available online, focus on a few basics like athleticism/stamina, will to win, body shape/size … to build squad and can’t go wrong.

  46. tezzer

    dont get me wrong i want to see the best that the football world can offer playing for Arsenal..but at the moment with our recruitment situation …supposedly not much money to spend and now no technical director that we know of in the pipeline …may be we should just look at what we have for the next season …as an Arsenal supporter for 50 years i know i would rather get behind a player who is young and raw but is 100% committed to the team than a player swanning around living on past glories i think that i would be prepared to give them more of a chance knowing there one of ours so to speak …..ive seen how guendouzi has played this season so far and loved his pure enthusiasm his commitment to the team unai emery has given him his chance and he has taken it …he may not be the finished artical yet and yes i know hes prone to a few mistakes but his wiliness to play for the team is there for all to see maitland-niles is another who has taken his chance he looks better each time i see him ….think of half dozen more players like those they would have so much energy in there enthusiasm and commitment they could grow as a team together a core of players who could see us through the next decade…a team dosent always play well because you have expensive players …ive always looked at George grahams team in the late 80s we had a team willing to go out and fight for each other and for Arsenal and that togetherness is something you cant buy it creates a team willing to play far and above the level that the individuals taken on there own could ever achieve we had a team then that i stood behind and supported because i knew they would give there all for the team and arsenal …its all us supporters can ask for. give the youth a chance and they may surprise you …if it dosent work what have we lost …going out and buying a bunch of high priced players with the possibility they may be like suarez and not adapt as quickly as we liked we would be in the same situation

  47. Bob N16

    Torreira, 22 years old, first season in PL, coming off a WC summer. Can’t believe people are suggesting he’s not a great acquisition, ludicrous!

  48. MGooner

    We bought Suarez just to show activity in the window and appease fans.

    Ramsey – am glad he’s going because he had one great season and after that has been inconsistent. We already have a useless Ozil on astronomic wages and do not need a repetition. It will divide the dressing room.

  49. Marko

    It is a very hard job and very, very important.

    It’s vital. Whoever ends up being our DOF or technical director will be charged with sorting out the squad addressing the imbalance in it and effectively driving the club forward in the coming years. It’s huge and vital

  50. Leedsgunner

    Sven Mislintat’s record at Arsenal as I see it.

    PEA – inconsistent but prolific goalscorer, on track to score 30 goals a season… not enjoyed at Arsenal since RvP left. Misses too many sitters but still an integral part of our attack. (SUCCESS)

    Sokratis – slow start but he has integrated himself into a good partnership with Kos… a no nonsense defender… adds experience and steel to our backline, mistakes rare, natural leader, a player attackers hate to mess with. (SUCCESS)

    Guendouzi – fantastic maturity for one so young… full of skill, flair and energy in abundance, suffers from lapses of concentration and temperament but given his age he has stepped and adjusted to the pace of the EPL marvellously. (SUCCESS)

    Torreira – tenacious, full of energy… and not afraid to run and drive the play forward. Not afraid of the big occasion and shows plenty of fight. (SUCCESS)

    Leno – able to play the ball from the back to start attacks, switched on, brave and wonderful reflexes… commands his area well (SUCCESS)

    Mavropanos – promising start but his start at Arsenal has been overshadowed by injuries.. hopefully he will become another Sokratis type of defender for us . (UNDECIDED).

    Lichtsteiner – experienced and full of fight but physically nowhere near fit for this level. Legs are completely gone even though his heart is still there. (FAIL).

    5 successes out of 7 especially with two young gems in Torreira and Guendouzi is not too bad…. still annoyed we let him go! Absolutely crazy decision.

  51. MGooner

    We won nothing since DD left.

    He was a shareholder and had the club’s interest at heart.

    the other guys seem clueless

  52. salpardisenyc

    I / MANY screamed out for a Gilberto type mid in 08/09/10/11/12…………….
    total crickets from Wenger and co.

    In Torreira we now have similar protection for the more creative types to create, not just a ball winner, has a great pass percentage as well. Emery’s played him deep protecting back four allowing Xhaka or others to create has also switched tactics and pushed higher up like second half vs Spurs when he scored.

    Some now throwing stones? Go and have a word with yourselves and report back, the answer wasn’t Arteta, Coquelin, Mohamed Elneny, or Granit Xhaka.

    Think the lil man is, makings of club legend.

  53. Un battle angel

    Receding hairline

    You can’t seriohsky be defending the signing of Suarez surely? It was an awful signing. Literally no better than Kim Kallstrom

  54. Dissenter

    Marko
    ‘It’s vital. Whoever ends up being our DOF or technical director will be charged with sorting out the squad addressing the imbalance in it and effectively driving the club forward in the coming years. It’s huge and vital”

    …and what will Raul Sanllehi be doing all this while?…, if not “sorting out the squad addressing the imbalance in it and effectively driving the club forward in the coming years”

    Don’t get testy, just challenge your erroneous thinking.

  55. salpardisenyc

    Leeds

    Agree with all that, Sven did well in his time here. Pity we didn’t see another cycle.

    Once Raul eradicated Sven thus dumping the setup Ivan left in place its becoming pretty clear the “technical director” position on offer isn’t that at all.

    I’d imagine were in market for a chief scout whom reports to Raul with a glorified title. Paid less if reports are accurate and little freedom.

    Precisely why Sven rocked out.

  56. Leedsgunner

    Apparently the powers that be are according to some reports “disappointed but relaxed” about missing out on Monchi because plans for our summer spending is well underway.

    In other words, if it all goes wrong this summer, Raul will have no one to blame except himself.

    Raul was hired on the strength of his experience and his contacts book.

    Time for him to step up.

  57. Graham62

    Pierre

    For all the differences in our opinions, I genuinely admire your tenacity when it comes to defending the indefensible.

    You actually sat in on the negotiations and know that Mr Wenger didn’t approve the Ozil deal and wasn’t responsible for the Sanchez saga? Where did you get your information ?

    Your perceptions, although admirable, are way off track.

    How’s the golf going?

    Rory is back.

  58. Dissenter

    Pedro
    “Dissenter… erroneous thinking? Really?”

    Yes
    Assuming that Raul Sanllehi will be having a long nap while the technical director is reshaping and remolding the club is indeed fantastically flawed thinking.
    Sanllehi will have as much say as any appointed director of football/technical director.

  59. Dissenter

    Guns
    No one knows why Sven left.
    Either way all the best to him. Gazidis most likely over-sold Arsenal to him. The scales fell off his eyes after Gazidis jumped ship and he had access to what was previously hidden
    ‘just speculating, of course.

  60. Graham62

    BobN16

    Anyone saying that Torreira is not up to scratch is totally clueless.

    It is actually embarrassing to know that we have supporters out there who have such a limited knowledge of the game.

    You are 100% correct in everything you say.

  61. Guns of SF

    Dissenter

    Yes and add to that, the small transfer budget. If he wanted to make a name, then he knew without the $, it would be hard. Dude probably thought he needed to unearth gems, in the 50, 000 range .

    Then the main players left. Wenger, Ivan, etc.

    Anyhow, we need to stop giving these massive contracts out, seems that has been the albatross around our necks regarding transfers

  62. Leedsgunner

    Sven, from what I understand, was informally offered the Technical Director’s position by Gazidas before he swanned off to AC Milan.

    When Raul and Vinai split Ivan Gazidas’ role between themselves, it was made clear to Sven that he was going to be passed over the role of Technical Director. Sven obviously took umbrage and left.

  63. Marko

    …and what will Raul Sanllehi be doing all this while?

    I imagine overlooking everything. Or whatever it is that a CEO does day to day at a club

  64. Guns of SF

    Leeds

    Makes sense… but he was not fired. He left on his own…. granted he had a shitty hand played to him

  65. Marko

    Once Raul eradicated Sven thus dumping the setup Ivan left in place its becoming pretty clear the “technical director” position on offer isn’t that at all.

    That actually doesn’t seem to be true at all. We were talking to Monchi and thought that we had Monchi until Sevilla came in at the last minute. Fact is that had we offered him enough salary at the beginning or had Sevilla not got knocked out by Slavia Prague when they did he probably would have been appointed. That to me suggests that it’s not some watered down position at all.

  66. Graham62

    Guendouzi is by no means the finished article. How can he be, he’s only 19?

    Yes , he shows immaturity and naivety on occasions but we’ve all seen enough of him to realise that he can become a special player.

    Again, those that question his talent are clueless.

  67. Guns of SF

    If Guen adds some better attacking, scoring to his game, he can be the next Rambo… Guen is strong, wide body, generally quick,, but prone to daydreaming and bad positioning
    Give him about 23 years and we sell for 60M plus

  68. Marko

    With regards to Sven’s time at Arsenal while I would gladly have kept him on its worth noting bar Mavropanos and Guendouzi and Torreira the rest of the signings were frankly lazy. Going back for your mates like Pedro says in Mhiki, Auba and Sokratis isn’t inspiring. Lichtsteiner was simply brain dead and Leno we’ve been linked with him for about 3 seasons anyway. Plus he did nothing on the selling side of things nothing. You wanna blame others for not getting rid of certain players but give Sven credit for the purchases no that’s on him too

  69. Leedsgunner

    There’s a silver lining to this Monchi U-turn.

    John Cross, has come out of it with several eggs firmly implanted on his face. 😉

  70. Marko

    Talksport merely mentioned Paul Mitchell’s name without any substance but he would have been a fantastic hire. Did a good job at Southampton and Spurs and now Leipzig.

  71. Versus

    I’m waiting for pierres reply to dissenter. Wenger clearly said the opposite to what pierre stated. Will pierre apologise. Can we have a little accountability on this blog for a change.

  72. Bob N16

    Marko, I may be naive here but I would have thought being able to identify players to bring in for the right price is a separate role to selling players on.

    The money men / negotiators can be left to get rid of players at the right price and leave the scouting to a Minslat type.

  73. Bob N16

    Graham, some people are far too reactive with their view on players…a couple of average games and the player is questionable. Torreira, understandably had a drop in form around Dec/ Jan and some are questioning if he’s all that, after performing fantastically well for 10/12 weeks. This is a 22 yr old who had never not had a midwinter break, apart from anything else.

    He’s off to China for a couple of games but other than that, he’s not available until about mid April. Would like to think he’ll be fully recharged for the final push . Great young player.

  74. Upstate Gooner

    “I thought Paul Mitchell specialised in hair products.”

    DoF by day, hair stylist by night. He’s a football fan first and foremost, and does it out of the goodness of his heart. The hair stuff pays the bills.

  75. Un battle angel

    On guendouzi

    While he undoubtedly has talent in the way he glides through the centre of the pitch all legs and hair like a cross between vieira and sideshow bob, I am concerned with his inability to ever find a final ball. It’s not like it’s once or twice, it’s seemingly every time he reaches the area he freezes and runs out of ideas. It’s not like he even makes the wrong choice, he just does nothing and gets dispossessed.

    Still it’s his first season and in a new league so I’ve been mightily impressed with him. Even more so than Torreira as the season as wore on. I just hope he learns to calm down as he approaches the area and focus on choosing an option.

  76. Guns of SF

    Early in the season, Guen impressed with his tenactiy, energy and movement.
    Later in the season, the grind took a toll and he did slow down… gone are the splitting passes to Auba etc. He now offers a wide body, who can slow down teams and some short passing. Creating, forget it…. helping to break up play, and tidy passes yes…

    He will learn to develop his game. He needs better vision, and better decisions in the final third, which like UNNAI says, he freezes up

  77. Pierre

    Un
    ” I am concerned with his inability to ever find a final ball. It’s not like it’s once or twice, it’s seemingly every time he reaches the area he freezes and runs out of ideas. ”

    I would put iwobi in that category as well though he is improving.

    That is why players like Mhkitaryan and Ozil are crucial in the final 3rd , yes they may struggle physically but it has been proven by both players over their careers that they have the ability to play the right ball at the right time and not have a brain freeze .

  78. Marko

    Yeah I dunno which one I’d believe the one where the independent says “Arsene Wenger is understood to have hugely resented sanctioning such a contract. It has left his successor with a problem.” Or actual quotes by Wenger justifying the Ozil contract. It’s a tough one cotton that’s for sure but I’m going to have to go with the actual quotes by the former manager as opposed to the independent understanding something.

  79. Guns of SF

    Pierre

    Brain freeze is endemic to young players. With time, this usually subsides.
    Unless your name is Theo Walcott or Eboue-bless him

  80. Upstate Gooner

    Leeds

    Yeeeah… I’m gonna go ahead and sort of disagree with you there (movie buffs?)

    “PEA – inconsistent but prolific goalscorer, on track to score 30 goals a season… not enjoyed at Arsenal since RvP left. Misses too many sitters but still an integral part of our attack. (SUCCESS)”

    One trick pony. Misses more clear cut chances than he actually scores. More pace than skill. A year from now, and he’ll be pretty much useless. (FAIL)

    “Sokratis – slow start but he has integrated himself into a good partnership with Kos… a no nonsense defender… adds experience and steel to our backline, mistakes rare, natural leader, a player attackers hate to mess with. (SUCCESS)”

    Best of the worst. Looks good because everyone else is just plain bad. Lacks pace. More of a wrestler than a football player. (FAIL)

    “Guendouzi – fantastic maturity for one so young… full of skill, flair and energy in abundance, suffers from lapses of concentration and temperament but given his age he has stepped and adjusted to the pace of the EPL marvellously. (SUCCESS)”

    Young, energetic but lacks positioning awareness. Can be a bit rash at times. The jury is still out. (UNDECIDED)

    “Torreira – tenacious, full of energy… and not afraid to run and drive the play forward. Not afraid of the big occasion and shows plenty of fight. (SUCCESS)”

    Little pitbull who’s not afraid to take on anyone. Feisty fella. Like his fight and energy. Can both tackle and pass. Quality signing. (SUCCESS)

    “Leno – able to play the ball from the back to start attacks, switched on, brave and wonderful reflexes… commands his area well (SUCCESS)”

    Another one that looks good because our current number 1 is past his expiration date. No offense to Leno but you can’t really compare him to the likes of DDG, Ederson, or Alisson. He’s decent but he’s not great (and I don’t think he’ll ever reach that potential). (OKAY)

    “Mavropanos – promising start but his start at Arsenal has been overshadowed by injuries.. hopefully he will become another Sokratis type of defender for us . (UNDECIDED).”

    Two games played. One red card received. The hype for the young Greek is over the top but I’ll believe it when I actually see it. (UNDECIDED)

    “Lichtsteiner – experienced and full of fight but physically nowhere near fit for this level. Legs are completely gone even though his heart is still there. (FAIL).”

    Major flop. (FAIL)

    So I got 1 Success (Torreira), 1 Okay (Leno), 2 Undecided (Guendo, Mavro), and 3 Fail (PEA, Sokratis, Lichsteiner).

  81. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Marko

    This Mitchell guy… is he the one who spurs stole from saint only a couple of years ago?

    If so why him bouncing clubs so quickly ,,,, money?

  82. Samesong

    That is why players like Mhkitaryan and Ozil are crucial in the final 3rd , yes they may struggle physically but it has been proven by both players over their careers that they have the ability

    This!

    Just to add my £2 worth for me cause our two central midfielders lack discipline and go wherever they want that is a cohesion thing and a management issue but this is Guendouzi and Torriera first season also.so many factors.

    We give away possession in the midfield like water at times it’s a joke. Hopefully next season we will see a better approach.

  83. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Same

    I think Lucas should play deeper , just in front of defence no side by side with another mid.
    4
    1
    3
    2
    He has been playing to high up the pitch….

    Players have roles not personal glory to achieve

  84. Upstate Gooner

    The above, by the way, was Leeds and my assessments of Sven Mislintat’s work. Needless to say that we “slightly” disagree. I, for one, was not said to see him go. Granted, I expect a quality replacement and at this point it doesn’t look promising but time will tell.

  85. LeMassiveCoq

    If Chelsea and City do not somehow wriggle their slimey oligarch/Sheik sponsored arse out of a transfer ban, then you can fully expect Utd and Pool to make hay whilst the sun shines. Meanwhile we will be shopping for the likes of Dennis ‘not exactly Luis’ Suarez in LIDL.

    We shouldn’t though. Stan should get his giant fuckoff checkbook out and buy our way to Premier league glory. We only need to spend about £150 mill and were bang in with a shout. He makes that in Interest every month, the tight septic, syrup wearing yankee cunt.

  86. Graham62

    This is the first time for many many years that I am actually looking forward to seeing England play during the international break.

    So many talented/exciting youngsters.

    Rule Britannia !

  87. Valentin

    Wenger gave interviews on BeIn Sport where without explicitly saying so, it was clear that toward the end of his tenure he had been sidelined by Gazidis with regards to contracts.

    For example he was OK with Sanchez running his contract and Gazidis overruled him.

    Regarding Mhikitarian swap, Wenger wanted Martial and was willing to give Sanchez plus 40 millions for Martial. Gazidis negotiated Mhikitarian. Wenger blew a gasket when he was told that Arsenal had to pay Mhikitarian a higher salary than what he was on at ManUtd. The worse is that we spend 50 millions later on for Aubameyang. We could have gotten Martial as at that time Mourinho wanted him out and Sanchez was seen as an upgrade on Martial.

    About Özil, Wenger wanted to keep him, but not necessarily at the price offered by Gazidis. When asked bout Özil salary, He pointedly retorted that he was not the one who decided the number on the paycheck. That does not sound like somebody who sanctioned the 350kpw outlays.

  88. Valentin

    @Un Battle,

    On Guendouzi, I disagree. He still has the knack of playing the right ball forward

    His main problem is that he does not protect the ball well. When put under pressure, he can be tackled and lose possession in dangerous area. That is why Emery is now not playing him or playing much further up.

    Ball protection is a technical issue, he needs to learn to position his body in such way, leaning away from the ball toward the opponent, so that the ball is out of their reach without obviously fouling him first.

    His second weaknesses is his lack of shooting ability. There has been time when he had the opportunity to shoot and either he did not took it or he took and aim for the 3rd tier. Again that Viva question of technique that a good skill coach should improve on.

  89. Pierre

    Marko
    “Yeah I dunno which one I’d believe the one where the independent says “Arsene Wenger is understood to have hugely resented sanctioning such a contract. It has left his successor with a problem.” Or actual quotes by Wenger j”

    Now there’s a first …..Marko actually believing something that wenger has said, after all those years of disputing anything wenger has ever uttered , Marko now decides ( when it suits him ) that we should all behold to wenger’s words.

  90. LeMassiveCoq

    Who gives a fuck about Wenger anymore? If he wasn’t happy with the way Gazidis did business he should of grown some balls and walked.

    I’m fed up with all of this ‘let’s get the best backroom staff, scouting network, youth development bollocks’. Lets get rid of the overpaid dross and buy some world class players to support the thin veneer of class we have (Laca, Auba …, Torreria, Leno, Bellerin, Holding, Kozzer [for another year], Socratis.). Continue developing Iwobi, AMN and Guendouzi, Smith-Rowe. NOW is the time. Strike whilst the iron is hot and Shitty and the Chavs have their hands tied.

    Yes, I have had several beers

  91. Pierre

    Half of Guendouzi’s problem is he goes to ground too easily expecting a free kick but the refs are now wise to it .

    Good player though and could go on to be top level due to what he has already achieved at such a young age.

  92. Pierre

    Versus
    “I’m waiting for pierres reply to dissenter. Wenger clearly said the opposite to what pierre stated. Will pierre apologise. Can we have a little accountability on this blog for a change.”

    Oops…spoke a little too soon there didn’t you .

  93. Guns of SF

    LMQ

    We cannot spend as we need to sell all the fat rats taking up the budget.
    Its the massive contracts that are killing our spend budget

  94. Luteo Guenreira

    Wenger wanted Martial and was willing to give Sanchez plus 40 millions for Martial. Gazidis negotiated Mhikitarian. Wenger blew a gasket when he was told that Arsenal had to pay Mhikitarian a higher salary than what he was on at ManUtd. The worse is that we spend 50 millions later on for Aubameyang. We could have gotten Martial as at that time Mourinho wanted him out and Sanchez was seen as an upgrade on Martial.

    Haha this has to be one of the more roundabout “I could have signed him” Wenger classics I’ve heard.

  95. Luteo Guenreira

    Pretty harsh assessments there Upstate

    It’s the cynicism only possible from Bills fan. Also he probably lives in Buffalo.

  96. Upstate Gooner

    Sal
    Not an IPA guy. I like a good lager. Stella is my go to beer.

    Luteo
    Buffalo is a shithole. Luckily, I live in Rochester area.

    Maybe I was a tad harsh but truth of a matter, guys, Sven didn’t do that good of a job.

    Dinner time. Wifey made chicken fagitas. Tequila and beer await. Cheers!

  97. Emiratesstroller

    Pedro

    The real issue for me is that Arsenal are producing at the moment an awful lot
    of fairly meaningless “job titles” without any real clarity as to what is the role of
    the person being recruited is actually doing.

    We see that for example with the roles of Burgess and Shad Forsyth when we
    discuss fitness programme at the club.

    Now we are discussing Sanhelli being the Football Director, Emery being Head
    of Coaching of the First Team and suddenly we need a Technical Director as well.

    The reality is that the club needs at the moment a Senior Scout [the role of
    Mislintat] who can fulfil the brief of finding the players who are needed to meet the demands of the Football Director and Head Coach.

    At the moment I see a scenario at Arsenal of too many cooks and the risk of them spoiling the broth.

    Regarding Dennis Suarez I was unimpressed with this acquisition in January albeit on loan and nothing that this player has shown since suggests to me that
    he is good enough to play for a top 4 team in EPL. This is not a signing that
    Arsenal should be making.

  98. salparadisenyc

    Upstate

    We have that in common, IPA no mas I’ll take the wife beater any day over that.

    Radeburger a big winner in my house.

  99. Bamford10

    Aubamazette

    “I too have read that Wenger didn’t sanction the Ozil deal. He wanted him to stay but not on that money. It was gazidis that pushed it through.”

    Please produce a link to this alleged article.

  100. Marko

    Well for one thing United don’t sell us players that they want. They were willing to get rid of the manager in order to keep players like Pogba and Martial from leaving. And he didn’t have 18 months left cause they exercised the option of another year. Also the butter wouldn’t melt in Wenger’s mouth routine has to stop he was genuinely incompetent for the last few years there the Sanchez and Ozil situations were examples of such

  101. Bamford10

    “That is why players like Mhkitaryan and Ozil are crucial in the final 3rd , yes they may struggle physically … ”

    Except that Ozil hasn’t been very good in the final third for a long time now, and there are plenty of players with creativity, technique and vision — e.g., DeBruyne, Coutinho — who are not a liability physically. The notion that you have to accept a player being slow or soft if you want someone technical or creative is nonsense.

  102. China1

    I’m ok with emery as manager for now but so far I don’t trust him in the transfer market

    Not only did we sign Suarez for absolutely no good reason whatsoever but we are constantly linked with average, old players. Maybe he’s never actually been in for banged and nzonzi but the constant links scare me

    I feel like emery can do a job with the players at his disposal but we need someone smarter making the transfers

  103. Bamford10

    Valentin

    “When asked about Özil’s salary, he pointedly retorted that he was not the one who decided the number on the paycheck.”

    Classic Wenger. He’s trying to have it both ways: he was definitely in favor of keeping Ozil — if anyone would overlook Ozil’s deficiencies, it is/was Arsene Wenger — but he wants to distance himself from a contract that has become more obviously terrible with time. Bottom line is this: one, Wenger wanted to keep Ozil; two, Ozil was asking for a certain amount of money, a huge amount of money. Wenger might not have been in the room when they finalized the number, but he was in favor of re-signing Ozil and he knew the range he was asking for. A manager with better sense and better eyes would have favored selling Ozil regardless of what he was asking for, and he would undoubtedly have favored selling Ozil rather than paying him the absurd sum he was asking for.

  104. China1

    Aubamazette not necessarily – that’s an overly simplistic view on money (more evidence that wenger can’t remember what he was taught in his economics degree)

    For example, what is ozil’s value to us right now if he was sold in the transfer market? No one has even come in for him. In real terms his value is actually pretty low and his on field performances have also been mostly really underwhelming this season. He also hasn’t been good value for his wages whilst sitting at home playing fortnite with back pains.

    On the other hand you can buy a 70m player like Liverpool did with VVD who has taken their whole team to another level, made an enormous difference, has played great 9/10 games since he joined, has probably doubled his value on the transfer market and hasn’t been playing fortnite…

    This idea that you lose ozil and buy a like for like at great cost to the club is not necessarily true at all.

  105. Marko

    Not only did we sign Suarez for absolutely no good reason whatsoever but we are constantly linked with average, old players

    We signed him as a back up. Emery doesn’t make the signings. What average old players are you specifically talking about? Surely not Grimaldo or Tagliafico or Konate or Ban Wissaka or Fornals. Heard we’re close to a 17 year old Brazilian too

  106. Bamford10

    Yeah, the notion that our choice was to re-sign Ozil at a massive salary or spend £60-70m on a CAM type is ridiculous on a number of levels.

    One, quality CAM types can be found for a lot less than that. Look at what Tadic is doing, for example. How much did he cost Ajax?

    Two, some would say that if you play 4-3-3, you don’t even need a #10 type.

    Three, 2017-18 Mesut Ozil is/was worth £30m tops. The notion that you’d need to spend £60-70m to replace a player worth £30m is nonsense.

  107. Bamford10

    France Football’s writers and editors have placed Wenger 32nd on their list of all-time best managers. He is behind, among others, Simeone, Klopp, Hiddink, Chapman, Van Gaal, Mourinho and Ancelotti. Putting Zidane ahead of him is a bit silly, but the rest is probably right. I love it. I really hope Wenger is well aware of this.

  108. China1

    We didn’t need Suarez as cover. He was a really odd choice

    We had defenders dropping like flies and zero wingers and we signed like a 5th choice AM. One who hasn’t done anything of note at that

    Banega and nzonzi have been linked to us over and over. I don’t know how much truth there is in it but I don’t want these two ‘average and old’ players as I put it

    What makes you think Suarez wasn’t anything to do with emery?

  109. Marko

    China I just said he doesn’t make the signings which he doesn’t. We signed Suarez at a time where Ozil was shit Mhiki was injured or getting back from injury and Ramsey wasn’t playing much. Simply put he’s back up and his transfer has honestly not hindered us in the slightest. As for the Nzonzi and Banega stuff it’s just regurgitated rumors

  110. Mick Kartun

    “Tottenham fans have been left in disbelief and furious that their first game at the new stadium against Crystal Palace will not be on television in the UK. Instead, Sky Sports will be showing Manchester City’s clash with Cardiff at the Etihad on the same night.”

    Well done Sky.

  111. Moray

    Who gives a shit about their shitty new stadium? And anyway, maybe they should have got it completed on time rather than mismanaging the project and no doubt being cheap.

    Should be a good UEFA cup venue for next season.