Never liked Monchi anyway

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So there we have it, Monchi is over and out. Finito.

He was offered a huge wedge of money to revamp Arsenal and he said no, instead returning back to Sevilla.

Wimp.

Should we read too much into this? I wouldn’t. If he’d picked Everton over us, maybe I’d worry. But he took the plunge, moved abroad, and had a very rough time, so he’s gone back to what he knows. He’s loved in Sevilla, there’s very little expectations there, he knows everyone, and it’s his home.

His reputation from Roma wasn’t good. He sold players for a lot of money, but he didn’t replace with ‘now’ quality, and the local fans were never going to give him enough time to see what the young kids were capable of.

Nzonzi and Pastore, both 29, were his big bet last summer. That’d make my eyes pop out of my head if he did that at Arsenal. Inexcusable.

Arsenal are bigger than Roma, we have higher expectations, we shouldn’t be sad that we’re not hiring in someone who was let go from a contract early. Roma are tight as you like, so things must have gotten bad if they were willing to let him go for zero fee.

Missing out also avoids a Spanish monopoly at the club. Monchi was a sexy name, no doubt, but letting a manager bring in his mate over him reeks of peak-Wenger. If Emery was tanking next December, would he pull the trigger? It’d be tough. I don’t want a boys club at the top at Arsenal. You want people that are making rational decisions based on data.

Now we have to look towards a new Sporting Director. Marc Overmars is clearly a very strong contender. He started at Ajax in 2013, I think it’s fair to say his first cycle will come to an end this summer when Ajax are obliterated by Europe’s vultures. He’s highly qualified. Ajax are buying better players, playing better football, making better decisions with managers, and the youth product is back to churning out proper talent.

There’s also Luis Campos. The man tasked with making Monaco an elite club, currently resides at Lille. There’s no doubt in my mind that the best talent in the world consistently comes out of France. Campos has it all as far as I’m concerned. He’s far more than a Europa League specialist, he can work on a budget and he has a consistent track record of bubbling up major talent from the lower reaches, and turning them into hot prizes for mega clubs.

There are a few people suggesting Monchi turned us down because of Kroenke.

Please people, give it up. You’re like the rich kids complaining about the lack of Michelin Star restaurants in the favelas you’re working in on your gap year. Arsenal is an elite offering. We have everything you’d want. Great training facilities, an investment fund (right?), massive brand new stadium, £220m wage bill, £100m in transfer fees… London address.

‘… but Kroenke’ is such lazy analysis.

Monchi didn’t move to Arsenal because he wanted a safe place. Arsenal is an attractive proposition to anyone. Even more so when you consider the salary we can offer. Remember, Atleti has a net spend of £13m a year. We can blitz that. If you are ambitious, you’d see Arsenal as a sleeping giant ready to be awoken. If you don’t see us that way, then why would we bother investing?

My big worry with Raul is that he’s not running an effective search and select process. Who is out there helping him? Or is he just calling up his mates to find out who is in favour with a super agent? The fact there’s only one contender being linked either says we’re very secretive, or this search is super limited.

Right, that’s me done. See you in the comments. x

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Graham62

So NZ will be reforming their gun laws. A correct and logical decision.

Will the US take heed.

Of course not.

Why should we be surprised that Trump refuses to accept their is a dangerous upturn in far right white nationalism when he is the picture boy for their warped beliefs.

His rather blase response shows exactly where he stands.

Worrying times.

Graham62

there is

Graham62

Sorry, politics on a Monday morning.

HighburyLegend

The correct phrase is : “Sorry, Trump on a Monday morning.”

Graham62

HighburyLegend

You’re right.

Graham62

I also say yes to Chambers.

Brooklyn

Yes to Chambers 4/5 CB(Along side new CB, Mustafi Kos Out), 2nd/3rd RB(In place of Lei), 4/5 th CM(In place of Elneny)if he accepts the role

Un battle angel

Graham Why should they? It’s ingrianed in their culture and written into their constitution. Why would they change their laws oover a shooting on the other side of the world? Seeing as knife crime is so out of control here maybe we should ban knives? How about targeting the demographic responsible with more stop and search? How about just ending the immigration policy which as lead to such a sharp rise in knife crime? Don’t get me started on jihadi attacks Guns don’t kill people. People do On top of that, firearms are a detterent. If I’m armed in my… Read more »

Un battle angel

Brooklyn

Kos our? He’s been great since his return. You clowns and your shiny new toys honestly.

Jamie

Don –

Roughly 50 toddlers shoot and injure or kill other Americans every year.

103 people have been killed by Jihadists since Sept 11 2001.

Guns do kill people, especially in the hands of toddlers. You’re a moron. Learn some statistical analysis instead of relying on your ‘gut instinct’.

Graham62

Un battle angel Er, let’s think about that for a second………………Maybe because it’s right? Bloody hell, covered a fair few issues in your response. Thank god we have gun laws because we have too many nutters on our streets here in the UK. Knife crime can be dealt with in one fell swoop.Won’t go into that as not the right platform to discuss that. Your perceptions on guns is frightening, but not surprising. Knife crime is on the up because of immigration. Really?!? The only reason Gun Control has not been enforced in the US has nothing to do with… Read more »

Graham62

Am I missing something?

Who is Don?

Graham62

Any parent who teaches their child(toddler) to use a fire arm is not a parent and needs psychiatric help.

Graham62

Jamie

You are correct……….Un battle is a moron.

Graham62

My fault, I started this.

Apologies.

Graham62

Shite, have just read Un battle angel’s response once again.

Ignorant to the extreme.

Back to football I think.

HighburyLegend

“Who is Don?”
lol

Jamie

Graham –

Don is Aubergine is Un naa naai is Un Battle Angel. Fool has to change his name every time he receives a ban from le-grove.

Nelson

I start to think that it won’t be easy to work under Raul. He pushed out Mislintat. He negotiates with Monchi for a few months. Monchi must have some reservations to work under him. That’s why he was dragging his feet. Let’s see how Raul performs this Summer. Now that Josh seems to keeping an eye on the club’s operation, Raul is also under some pressure to perform. Ramsey and Suarez are two examples of his decisions. Whether they are good decisions are still debatable.

Graham62

Jamie

Oh, that explains it then.

Leedsgunner

“I don’t want a boys club at the top at Arsenal. You want people that are making rational decisions based on data.“ If only the powers that be at the club thought this… because if we did, we would have never thrown Sven Mislintat out unceremoniously like we did. In fact, that decision looks more foolish as long as our sporting director/ technical director remains unfulfilled. He should have never been let go until we had a replacement in the pipeline. Amateurish. I thought Raul Sanhelli was supposed to be this world class operator who had an amazing contacts book.… Read more »

Un battle angel

Don –Roughly 50 toddlers shoot and injure or kill other Americans every year.103 people have been killed by Jihadists since Sept 11 2001. Guns do kill people, especially in the hands of toddlers. You’re a moron. Learn some statistical analysis instead of relying on your ‘gut instin Jamie Ok dumb fuck A responsible gun owner or parent doesn’t allow their children access to loaded fire arms. 103 people killed by jihadists? 126 in the uk. Hundreds more In Europe and thousands more in Asia and Africa so that’s dog shit What about knife crime Jamie? Do you know how many… Read more »

Un battle angel

Jamie

I changed my name once pussy boy.

Un battle angel

UK.Knife crime can be dealt with in one fell swoop.Won’t go into that as not the right platform to discuss that.

Graham

Please do. Otherwise I’ll have to assume you have no answer to the point.

Words on a Blog

It’s difficult for a football vision or philosophy to emerge at Arsenal when there has been such turnover of staff on the technical/scouting/ executive side. Here at Le Grove we can talk all we lie about the age profile, experience, type of player and price we would like. Meanwhile the club has let its Head of Scouting go after denying him the chance to take the opportunity of heading up the Technical side, failed at the last minute to recruit a well-known and experienced technical guy in Monchi despite his rapport with Emery and the attractiveness of being a “leading… Read more »

Un battle angel

Your perceptions on guns is frightening, but not surprising. Knife crime is on the up because of immigration. Really?!?

Graham
Check out the demographics. It’s not poverty because poverty stricken shit holes outside of ethnic areas aren’t seeing a hike in knife crime. So that’s out the window. Knife crime is highly prevalent in low income, high minority areas
Not low income, highly british areas.

It’s a fact.

Words on a Blog

~talk all we like!

Graham62

If Arsenal win their next two games against Newcastle and Everton, top 4 is definitely on the cards.

Words on a Blog

Graham, fingers crossed, hopefully we manage to maintain our recent good form.Man U losing a bit of that Solskjær bounce they had a few games ago, Spurs look tired and Spurs, and Chelsea look like late era Wenger’s Arsenal, no spine, which is amazing really given that they the leagues best DM – hopefully Sarri keeps playing Kante far upfield!

Words on a Blog

Spurs look tired and Spursy

Marko

That’s not true Don you changed your name plenty of times. Trust you to lie through your teeth. As for all the gun stuff America will never get rid of guns never you see there’s too much money in it and at the core of the “American dream” and American society as a whole is greed. That’s why they even fight common sense gun laws. You see they make so much money selling AR-15’s and the like that even though it has no place in the hands of a citizen in a first world country they still sell it. They… Read more »

Words on a Blog

Un Battle,

I’m sure there are plenty of other internet forums where you can discuss and debate the statistics on knife crime and ethnicity, and how much better life would be without the ethnics.

This is a football forum. The odd political comment is fine, but no need to labour the point.

Words on a Blog

Un Battle,

Also please relax.

Not everyone who disagrees with you on politics or football is necessarily a “dumb fuck”

Marko

I would say that for example there’s an upturn in knife crime in England because it’s not a gun type country. Look people are people and you’re always going to have people kill other people and be stupid until the end of time that’s just the way it is. But knives are knives and guns are guns and you may have hundreds of violent knife crimes in a year in Britain and that’s terrible but compared to the tens of thousands of violent gun crimes and deaths in America it’s easy to see which one is better.

Marko

One of the things I’ve noticed that to me seems especially linked with Britain the last number of years are those acid attacks. Just came from out of the blue. You would think something like that would be difficult to get

Graham62

Un battle angel or whoever you are

There are many reasons why knife crime is on up, not just demographics.

A lack of law and order/ social media/ game manufacturers/ schools and the education system in general/ parental guidance etc etc. so many reasons.

Ask yourself this. If you had severe punishments implemented, do you think things would be as bad as they are?

The crux of all of this is that punishments should fit the crime. The PC brigade and Human Rights activists don’t agree though.

Get the picture?

Un battle angel

Go to newscastle, Sunderland, Bristol, Middlesbrough, Worthing, Blackpool

Hardly stabbing each other in record numbers are they?

Marko

The crux of all of this is that punishments should fit the crime. The PC brigade and Human Rights activists don’t agree though.

Not sure about this. How about addressing social inequality and giving opportunities to people to work and give them a reason to want to live and not do stupid shit. It’s so easy to say it’s a liberal thing and the crime should be more extreme blah blah blah give people more of a reason to stay out of jail and to prosper rather than just dump them in prison at the expense of the taxpayer

Bamford10

Don back to filling the blog up with stupidity and insults.

Un battle angel

Marko

It is true
I’ve changed it once

But you’re right on acid attacks. It’s a new thing that was highly prevalent in other cultures which have now been imported

Bamford10

Jamie

No, he’s not Aubergine. Don = Un Na = Un Battle. Aubergine is a different one.

Graham62

It’s called zero tolerance.

Un battle angel

Graham

Game manufacturers??? Haha
Do me a favour. Any sane individual can play a video game without the urge to plunge a knife into someone else

It’s gang culture. Pure and simple. But let me ask you this Graham.

If it’s all these silly reasons then why aren’t leafy suburbs in Surrey and Sussex or Dorset plagues with it

Graham62

I live in Worthing.

Wonderful part of the country.

Shite Unfortunately happens everywhere these days.

Marko

But you’re right on acid attacks. It’s a new thing that was highly prevalent in other cultures which have now been imported Ah of course imported. I daresay you’re one of those people who blame everything on immigrants. We were fine until those pesky immigrants came with their knives and their acid. https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/5d38c003-c54a-4513-a369-f9eae0d52f91 There has been a fairly relentless rise in the number of alt-right sites and blogs linking acid attacks to Muslim, Asians and migrants, and this has clearly gained some traction,“ said Shah. Type “Asian acid attacks” into Twitter and there are hundreds of people conflating acid attacks… Read more »

Marko

Don also I don’t know if you are just that stupid or genuinely believe that you changed your name once but going from Unai naaa or whatever it was to grown man battle angel obsessed is a name change and you respond to Don so that is at least two not one. There’s been others too and there’ll be more in the future cause you cannot help yourself

Marko

Anyone who blames movies or video games on violent incidents or really any kind of crime can’t be taken seriously. There’s no correlation between them at all. I’ve seen Heat a hundred times it’s one of my favorite movies and I’ve got no desire to rob a bank in broad daylight

Micheal

“Guys, this is a football blog. I don’t want people talking about acid attacks or terrorism on here.”

Well said.

HighburyLegend

“Batman forever.”

Ah ah!!

Words on a Blog

Pedro, the only politics that should be discussed in here is the politics of the Kingdom of Wakanda

Graham62

Ok now I know you’re ignorant

Your immature and naive responses are unbelievable.

Look at the US gun atrocities over the years. All were gamers/ social media junkies. Mix in a few psychological deficiencies and you’ve got a potent mix.

You know that games are addictive for some individuals? You do understand that?

Reality means nothing to these individuals.

Marko

I’ve said my piece and that’s that. Onto Arsenal related things I’ve a feeling that the DOF hire will be left field possibly someone from Germany. I hope to fuck it’s not someone in house. Even though since Sven left the apparent summer plans and links to players have been by and large to my liking. Grimaldo, Tagliafico, Konate, Under and others are exciting. Are we working off a Sven list or is someone trying to impress and get the job who’s at the club?

Marko

I’m ignorant for thinking games and movies bare no responsibility for an individuals actions? That makes sense. Again it’s not something that you can in fact prove. Whereas I can prove that people can go watch movies and then go home and play a video game and then not have the urge to kill a person. Anyway it’s ridiculous Ozil’s put in about 10,000 hours on Fortnite and he wouldn’t hurt a fly

Leftsidesanch

Black Panther Peds….

Graham62

My mistake, I started it all with my Trump input.

Marko

Look at the US gun atrocities over the years. All were gamers/ social media junkies

Sure. Video games and social media aren’t the same thing you know that right. I would actually agree that platforms like Facebook and Twitter have to do more to combat hate and violence but that’s not the same as a person playing a video game or watching a movie

Champagne Charlie

Video games aren’t a source of blame for violence, that’s unfounded and lazy rhetoric often from those of a different generation. Funny that.

Anyway, football….

Who the fuck is this lad Emery apparently scouted from getafe?

Words on a Blog

CC – ahh, football again, thank fuck for that.

But why kick off talk about Emery and the Getafe defender lad?

Now I can accuse you of having an agenda in bringing back the discussion to Emery’s poor defensive record!

Marko

Video games aren’t a source of blame for violence, that’s unfounded and lazy rhetoric often from those of a different generation. Funny that.

I agree. Bloody old fuddy duddies

Champagne Charlie

Woab

I’ve no clue who the lad is, that’s why. From Togo, 27 year old, 30 mil euros touted, former links to Barca.

Someone shine a light?

Marc

“You know that games are addictive for some individuals? You do understand that? ”

Alcohol, exercise, gambling and food are addictive for some individuals. Should we ban all of them as well?

Guns of Brixton

“Batman forever”

Pedro. U doing my nut in!!!
Unless u referring to the 1990s movie

Its AUBEMAYANG FORRREEVVVAAARRR

😆😆😆😂🤣🤣

Words on a Blog

CC,
Never seen him play.

All I know is that Getafe, with a squad costing diddly squat, have the second best defensive record in La Liga, after Atletico Madrid, and with 3 fewer goals against than Barca

Marko

I’m hoping the Djene links are just rehashed from previous links and Emery was there just for the game or to have a look at Kondogbia or Soler or Gaya/Lato giving our needs at LB. Just checked only Gaya and Djene played. Flamini is at getafe…who knew

Champagne Charlie

Our defence is lacking a mean African, need a Kolo new breed to come in and floor Auba in training.

gonsterous

so much for sarriball, just realised they lost yesterday. Teams around us losing form, which is a good sign. We need to take advantage of this. Would be great if we ended the season in 3rd. But it’s funny how at the start of the season top 4 was going to be a miracle but now we could still be disappointed for not coming 3rd.
Don’t see spurs winning against utd or chelsea.

Words on a Blog

Marko – read an article a few weeks back that most of Getafe’s players were assorted “has-been” and “never-quite-made-its” who were out to make a point that they could compete against the best…not sure about how accurate the article was (certainly true in the case of The Flam), but their manager has certainly got them over-performing…..

Valentin

@Goonsterous,

Do you mean against Liverpool? I don’t think that Spurs still have to play Chelsea.

In view of Chelsea current form, Liverpool, ManUtd, victory is more likely. However a draw would do us nicely in those games. On current form and tactics deployed, I can even see defeat or draw at the hand of Cardiff, West Ham and Leicester.

Marko

Just checked it was definitely a defensive scouting mission only Atletico have a better defence than Valencia and Getafe in La Liga. Getafe sitting in 4th seem to be having a great season

gunnershabz

the best thing about this, the pundits still writing off Arsenal for top 4

they still think the spuds will do it

I just love it if we prove everyone wrong and finish 3rd

this should be motivation for our players, everyone still writing us off

Valentin

Anybody has seen Getafe play, because looking at the Goal For and Goal Against, they look like a really defensive outfit.
After 28 games GF 36 GA 24.

However we have to relativise as Except from Barcelona and Real Madrid most of la Liga teams don’t really score a lot of goals compared to the other main European leagues.
Maybe they just have better defenders.

Goals per game:
Germany Bundesliga : 3.95
France Ligue 1: 3.17
England Premiership: 2.85
Italy – Series A: 2.71
Spain Primera Division: 2.54

Micheal

Marc Overmars has rejected Arsenal and extended contract at Ajax.

HighburyLegend

So, Pedro… Monchi and Overmars both OUT, who’s next ?? lol

HighburyLegend

Amen to that… I mean to him…. whatever…

Valentin

According to Marko, you can’t prove that he rejected Arsenal so everything is OK. lol. Sven left. Edu, Monchi, Overmars have all rejected Arsenal overture. Before going after the next candidate maybe Arsenal’s management team need to ask themselves why we keep encountering those negative answers. Is it the money (too low, I doubt it but you never know), the responsibilities (not enough responsibility for the caliber of candidate we go after), the personality (does the candidate meet the personnel and decide that they could not work with them), wrong candidates (do we approach the right type of people)? Again… Read more »

Upstate Gooner

“Monchi and Overmars both OUT, who’s next?”

Wenger

Dissenter

Valentin
“Again that does make us very amateurish. That could deter good candidates by letting them think that there is something seriously wrong with the job offer”

There may be something wrong with job offer, especially the job description.

The technical director has to work under Raul Sanllehi who has a very vague title of “Director of footballing operations”. Someone would have to reassure me that this is not synonymous with a Director of football.

Valentin

I don’t think that those candidates used Arsenal to extract more money or more responsibility. I think that they were genuinely interested, however during the negotiation process something made them do a U-turn. What they need to figure out is what scared the candidates. They should even contact them to get the answer. I remember a while ago a company that I had rejected contacted me to determine why so many of the preferred choices refused their offer or as in my case refused to go further. For me and I suspect for many others it was seeing my jerk… Read more »

Valentin

@Dissenter,

I agree that to me the job description read more like deputy to Raul rather than really Director of Football.

HighburyLegend

lol @Upstate.

Why not after all ?? He’s still searching for a job…

HillWood

Let’s be honest
No one on here has got a fucking clue about DOF s or which one would be any good at Arsenal