In-depth analysis of Monchi transfer strategies at Roma and Sevilla

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Just a quick post for you this morning as I showered you in two lots of content goodness yesterday.

A few things I wanted to add to the Monchi story.

A few people have rightly raised concerns about the nepotistic new look being sculpted at Raul’s Arsenal.

Firstly, the reason that’s a worry is the same reason it’s a worry at any organisation. You want to build a culture of excellence focused on performance, not who knows who. You don’t want to create dangerous power structures that make it hard for outside voices to be heard, whilst also muddying the waters of true performance accountability.

Arsene Wenger had a counterbalance when he started at Arsenal. David Dein was the more aggressive partner who pushed him to take chances on players. He could do this because he acted as/was seen as an equal. When Dein was pushed out of the club unceremoniously in his attempt to make Arsenal a super club, Wenger assumed full control and no one dared stop him.

He built out an untouchable backroom team that consisted of people who’d dare not challenge his authority, and he hired incompetent folk who were grateful for the underserved prestige job he’d handed out. He even had a say on who the CEO was. Imagine that, letting an underling yay or nay the person who could fire him? No coincidence the type of character he picked.

This approach works when judgment is sound, but it fails spectacularly when things go wrong. When the wheels came off Wenger’s approach and we started to sink, no one had the guts to tell him, and worse, Wenger didn’t have the quality around him to search out solutions even when he eventually wanted them.

Unai Emery has effectively brought in a partner who will make the decision to give him another 3 years, a pay rise, or sack him. Does that sound like history repeating itself? Maybe.

The big question everyone should be asking is this: how ruthless will Monchi be?

Who knows. Ultimately, this will only become a problem if things go wrong. The big hope is the reunion of the band will lead to better days on and off the pitch.

Following on from this, I totally forgot that Monchi hired in Sampaoli. The Argentine manager put on quite the show at Sevilla. He brought an aggressive brand of South American football to the club, he rejuvenated Samir Nasir, ended Zidane’s 40 game unbeaten run, and tapped out by qualifying Sevilla for the Champions League.

This is mostly interesting because it says Monchi is a man of exceptional taste when it comes to the sort of football he wants to see. Exactly what you want from the man hired to set the tone for the footballing style of Arsenal moving forward.

A Gooner friend of mine mentioned that Monchi will act as a counter to Emery’s impulse to purchase older players. I did some digging, overall, I’m not so sure.

I was going to pull the numbers for net spend, but overall, what’s the point? We know the guy is mustard at player churn.

Sifting through his last 6 seasons, it’s clear he’s a huge fan of the loan system. He likes to borrow players not landing minutes at big clubs, and he also likes young kids to get game time by sending them out on loan. Ben Knapper is going to be very busy.

The average age of a Monchi signing (purchases and important loans) over the last 6 season sits at 25.5. It’s clear the man is no Ralph Rangnick who believes players are untrainable after the age of 23 years old.

The coach says that he never signs a player the manager doesn’t want, so I thought it’d be interesting to see the average age of an Emery signing in the 3 successful years they worked together. It’s a little over 25.5, sitting at 25.8. So not quite Mourinho, but smack bang at the start of ‘prime’ football years. Key point here is if we’re looking to make money, utilising this approach means players will be here a maximum of two seasons before being sold on for profit (my thinking here is 28 is the cut-off point before sharp declines in value).

I think the middling twenties number stems from the strategy at Sevilla tending to be geared around players that had lost their way with bigger clubs. Sevilla acted as a second chance for a lot of players. Clearly, Monchi thinks there’s value in the scrap heap and he likes the idea of the ‘chip on the shoulder’ motivation that comes with being shunned.

Worth noting that Wenger also liked to do this when he was the king. He brought in names like Kanu, Overmars and Suker whilst also breathing new life into the clubs legends like Ian Wright, Dennis Bergkamp, Lee Dixon and Tony Adams. I mean, it’d be fair to say that Thierry and Vieira were also on a scrap heap of sorts, even if they were very young when they moved to us.

The Roma transfer policy has tended to follow a very similar pattern to Sevilla. His first act was to move on Paredes, Salah, Rudiger and Emerson from 135.8m euros. Quite an aggressive move considering their combined average age was only 23.75. He then added 13 players with an average age of 25.6.

The next summer he shifted Strootman, (28) Nainggolan (30), and Alisson (25) for 142m euros which was good business. However, he went full on Sevilla with the replacement signings bringing in Pastore (29) and Nzonzi (29) for 60m euros, not exactly value based signings if you’re thinking about the long-term resale value.

That said, they managed to nab Justin Kluivert (19) and Nicolo Zaniolo (19), who exciting bets for the future.

So in short, we’re hiring a Technical Director who likes to find value at the big clubs for experience, whilst taking chances on kids he can offer more playing time to than the big clubs.

Very, very Raul it would seem. Also very Emery if we think the Suarez deal was all his. Do not be shocked to see us raid Barcelona for Malcolm this summer. Just the right amount of broken if Monchi’s past signings are anything to go by.

Now, your past doesn’t always dictate your future. No one has a clue what the brief is at the minute. But one thing is for sure, I think this summer will be a whirlwind. Over 6 seasons, he’s averaged 13.6 new faces a season. That’s a far cry from Wenger’s mantra of ‘more than 3 signings and training ground will flood.’ Last season at Roma, including loans, 41 faces arrived and 44 left. The season before 52 arrived, 59 left. A lot of loans in that, but it gives you an idea about the amount of fucks given when it comes to shaking things up.

So what have we learned today? Well, I can’t write a short post when I’m interested in something. Whatever happens, this summer will be aggressive, fast-paced and exciting. Like it or lump it, we’ll be looking at a very different group of players when next season starts.

The next chapter begins… (hopefully)

Right, that’s me done, enjoy the Southampton game and we’ll talk more on Monday.

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  1. HillWood

    Charlie George
    Why do you think the League of Nations is poison
    Did you prefer shit international friendlies
    Or don’t you agree with international football at all ?

  2. Marko

    I was going to ask if Marko had ever met anyone who worked in elite sport that helped him draw such aggressive conclusions about fatigue and the structure of performance departments… but I think I can gather the answer.

    There’s that snark again. No it’s just common sense really. You see I see a guy jumping up for a header and coming down on his ankle and breaking it and I think unfortunate not how can I blame Emery. I see Holding taken a tumble on the side of the pitch at Old Trafford and injuring his ACL I think what dumb luck not how can I attribute the blame to Emery. Bellerin stretchs for a ball he’s misplaced and blows his knee out I think what bad luck he was playing well not typical Emery for working him too hard. Like I said there’s certain injuries that you can attribute to a training regime and there’s ones that are just unfortunate

  3. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    Pedro (as far as I’m aware) has detailed the heavy training previously, and noted there had to be a reduction – why do you think that is?

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but you absolutely can attribute ACL injuries and ankle injuries like Welbecks to fatigue. I’d play it a bit safer on topics you’re not as familiar with, you’re saying some really daft stuff with absolute conviction.

  4. Dissenter

    Pedro
    Think of the physical trainer that comes with the manager as a liaison between the manager and the primary club appointed staff.
    Julien Masaach is listed as one of the club’s strength and conditioning coaches. He is the manager’s liaison in a very large team and is working under Burgess and Forsyth.
    Physios are one the most collaboratively trained medical professionals. They know how to work together.

  5. Champagne charlie

    “Physios are one the most collaboratively trained medical professionals. They know how to work together.“

    Are you a physio?

  6. Pedro

    Josip, I watched that game… PSG weren’t great, but their ability to create chances is something else. Mbappe is such a quick thinker.

  7. Marko

    Marko, you’ve only just learned that fatigue builds over time, maybe you should wait a few hours before giving us your hot take on the WELBZ injury.

    Good one? Is this the new norm now Pedro someone disagrees with your OPINION and they’re either banned lose comments or are ridiculed? Maybe if you put forward better arguments for not allowing managers to bring their own conditions coach or are able to prove that some of the injuries suffered are because of said conditions coach. I look forward to being proven wrong on the injury stuff but the conditions coach stuff I’m afraid you’re going to have to take the L on this one has you say because every manager brings his own guys

  8. Dissenter

    CC
    Nope
    I work with them Send them work to do to carry out.
    Physios work in teams all the time, that’s the essence of their work- with surgeons, occupational therapist, rehab specialist etc.

  9. Dissenter

    The ideal state will be for the manager to just show up without any staff and work with the club’s staff.
    It’s not then norm currently though, we can all agree with that.

  10. Pedro

    Marko,

    You seemed to be having a lot of fun with your Spanish gags earlier?

    I’m just making light of your militancy about something you don’t seem very well researched in.

    We can talk about something else.

  11. Pedro

    Dissenter, I’m guessing your view of what’s normal is based on a few articles you’ve found? Not on any sound research?

  12. Marko

    Pedro (as far as I’m aware) has detailed the heavy training previously, and noted there had to be a reduction – why do you think that is?

    Not true. He said something about double sessions and getting rid of juice and outdoor training all of which seem to stem from preseason. In fact there’s evidence of mini breaks for the players as opposed to the double sessions stuff.

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but you absolutely can attribute ACL injuries and ankle injuries like Welbecks to fatigue

    Are you sure you’re objective? I mean really. It seems like a really biased thing to do to attribute blame for an injury prone and frankly unorthodox footballer like Welbeck to jump up and land on his ankle on fatigue and the manager.

    Anyway I can see where this is going and I’ll bow out. Basically I’m in an argument with people who seem to blame everything on Emery and that’s it. Maybe you’re right.

  13. Dissenter

    CC
    Could be…
    If a receptionist needs 6 years of specialized post-secondary school education followed by a decade of further training then that will make me the most highly trained receptionist in the world.

    In actual sense I have to have the bedside manners of a good receptionist to help me put total strangers at ease to help me help them.

    You must know why I took your “always objective comment” personal because I have a sense of what you do from your writings here. I probably do something similar..cough … cough if you know what I mean.

  14. Dissenter

    Pedro
    Do you know any sports physios in real life?
    Where did you get your info from because we all know you’re into marketing

  15. Marko

    Honest question would you say there’s many Man City fans out there blaming Pep and Lorenzo Buenaventura for the injuries to Kompany? Sturridge you think they blame Klopp and Andreas Kornmayer for him. Probably

  16. Bamford10

    Pedro

    I’ve said this before, but just because fatigue can lead to injury doesn’t mean that every injury is due to fatigue.

    Whether we are talking about Welbeck’s injury or anyone else’s, you and your camp would need to demonstrate that (i) this or that injury was the result of fatigue and that (ii) said fatigue was the result of over-training.

    You have not done this, nor do I think you can do this.

    Players suffer injuries all of time for any number of reasons; to claim that the cause was fatigue or over-training, you have to demonstrate this.

  17. Marko

    Pedro I’d rather just leave it. You think he’s to blame I don’t. You got a problem with him bringing his own conditions guy I think it’s normal. I’m absolutely not going to be able to change your mind on anything Emery you’ve already made up your mind on him.

  18. Champagne charlie

    “It seems like a really biased thing to do to attribute blame for an injury prone and frankly unorthodox footballer like Welbeck to jump up and land on his ankle on fatigue and the manager.”

    You’ll have to explain where I blamed the manager given I disregarded going so far only ten minutes ago? I was busting your incorrect statement that said ACL and ankle injuries like Welbecks don’t occur through fatigue. They do.

    Dissenter

    Specialty or general?

  19. Dissenter

    Bamford
    “I’ve said this before, but just because fatigue can lead to injury doesn’t mean that every injury is due to fatigue”

    It’s that old confusion between correlation and causation
    I think Pedro ran with correlation and has drummed on it so much that he’s mistaken it for causation
    Soft tissue injuries are correlated with player fatigue is not the same as player fatigue causes soft tissue injuries.

  20. Receding Hairline

    Pedro no I do not know what Emery was discussing with Burgess at that times, you obviously know I don’t, just pointing it out because I’m pretty sure that if he was caught on camera talking to his own guy at that point you will be all over it.

  21. Charlie George

    hill Wood

    “””””Why do you think the League of Nations is poison
    Did you prefer shit international friendlies
    Or don’t you agree with international football at all ?””””

    League of nations is similar to the Europa Cup.

    Its a tournament- that is solely devised – to make the weakest team in it – a few quid,…. it has nothing to do with sporting excellence.( Eg Andorra, Malta and Lichtensteiner, etc all are frankly useless at football- but need a few bob!)

    Its is basically benign sporting socialism.

    Football at its best ( international football too)- should always be in Knock -out format.

    One defeat- any defeat – you are out. You are on your way home !

    One chance – one life. Like in our real lives..

    the reason- why The FA cup is the greatest tournament in the world ( ignore the doomsayers) is because of the above reasons.

    if Arsenal lose 2-4 at Forest in the 3rd round -they are out for 12 months.

    No second leg- to amend the result

    if there are Arsenal fans – excited by the thought of watching Rennes on a Thursday evening in a fortnight – I suggest they have not heard of the capabilities of Viagra Plus- you do not need Europa cup dross – imbibing on these gems.

    it is after all painfully, wretched tournament.

    emery out!

  22. Marko

    Charlie quick question would you apportion any blame on Arsene Wenger for the injury suffered by Ramsey at Stoke all those years ago

  23. Champagne charlie

    Marko
    Chalk and cheese comes to mind, we’re not discussing impact injuries.

    Dissenter
    Knife guy… you make it sound like culinary school

  24. Pedro

    ‘Charlie quick question would you apportion any blame on Arsene Wenger for the injury suffered by Ramsey at Stoke all those years ago’

    What a way to fight your way out of a corner.

    SAY YES CC, SAY YES

  25. Marko

    But fatigue could have played a part no? He’s not tired maybe he avoids the challenge you know. Surely you blame him for the Bobby Pires ACL then. So fatigue can’t be blamed for an impact injury but it can be blamed for a lad jumping and coming down on his ankle

  26. TheBoyCornelius

    Surely Emery bringing his own fitness guy is because he knows how Emery wants his players to be conditioned. I’d imagine said fitness guy has devised plans and methods over the years they have worked together. He can communicate far better with the in house team how Emery needs the players to perform . And between them manage that. To me it seems logical for Emery to have such a guy on his team.

  27. Pedro

    TheBoyCornelius, you’d kind of expect us to not have to reduce training intensity, and you’d expect us not to look so tired in December then? Maybe less injuries as well?

  28. Charlie George

    marko

    “””Charlie quick question would you apportion any blame on Arsene Wenger for the injury suffered by Ramsey at Stoke all those years ago”””

    yes
    about 15 %

    The moment he got rid of Lehamnn and Vieria – opposition players started to take liberties,
    Any great team – needs a minimum of 2 hardmen in it!

    Ramsey WOULD NOT HAVE SUFFERED THAT BROKEN LEG FROM THAT COWARD=SHAWCROSS- IF JENS PLAYED THAT GAME!

    Jens L- in my humble opinion – was Wengers greatest ever signing,

    It is utter disgrace – that man is not working at Arsenal- and yet these 2 reprobates** are ( Raul/emery)

    is this word allowed?!

  29. DaniAltos

    It is absolutely embarassing that the Arsenal are sitting on fourth after a win and some posters still can’t help themselves in regards to flogging the manager.You will also realize that most if them are hyoocrites and plain liars.One of them just listed suarez in a list of our most technical players after weeks of bashing him,another one doesn’t even have a clue on when the Europa league started acting as a backdoor to the Ucl and some are even suggesting that Emery is putting up a Spanish cabal.One look at this blog and you would think that we are in a relegation dog fight(a West Ham supporting friend’s words).Finally,the irony of people crying over puel’s sacking because he plays good football with a negative GD(just go on Twitter and check the Leicester Fans’ comments lol)and the same guys wanting Emery to be sacked SMH!

  30. TheBoyCornelius

    Pedro…yes you could be correct on that one. And maybe it’s a fault on Emerys guys part, over ruled or by the in house team. Or maybe it’s a compromise. A clashing of 2 methodologies that may result in better management of what has been a problem for us for a number of years now.

  31. HillWood

    Charlie George
    So you think countries should go into a knock out tournament with no idea how their players will perform together?

  32. Marko

    I don’t get you Pedro you’re blaming Emery and Masach for ACL injuries and broken ankles so isn’t it fair to ask would you also blame Wenger for some of the unfortunate injuries suffered under him. Do we blame Klopp for the fractured leg on Joe Gomez considering the notorious and renown hard work Klopp puts into the squad. Also keep in mind that he brought his own fitness coach too. I suppose not

  33. Pedro

    TheBoyCornelius, that’s why you have departments with empowered leaders, so you know exactly where the issue is coming from.

    Everyone has a get out of jail card when no one knows who is in charge.

  34. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    Again, I haven’t blamed Emery or in fact blamed anything whatsoever. I’ve corrected your incredibly limited concept of fatigue and it’s relationship to injury, nothing more.

    IF Emery has worked the players to within an inch of their lives then it’s impossoble to not apportion some responsibility on his training methods and structure.

    3 season ending injuries Marko, not 1. It’s a just pov.

  35. Pedro

    Marko,

    I get you.

    Your backs against the wall, now you’re reworking this whole debate into a strawman that doesn’t exist.

    Just take the L, admit you’re wrong, and find something new to talk about where you can win.

  36. Bamford10

    Dissenter

    It’s less a confusion over correlation vs. causation — after all, fatigue can be a cause or one of several causes of an injury — but an oversimplification of the causal relationship.

    Simply because A can cause B doesn’t mean that A did cause B.

  37. Bamford10

    Pedro

    I don’t think Marko has taken any “L” at all. You keep insulting him, but you haven’t really made any good arguments. See my points above.

  38. Marko

    I haven’t blamed Emery or in fact blamed anything whatsoever…IF Emery has worked the players to within an inch of their lives then it’s impossoble to not apportion some responsibility on his training methods and structure.

    Of course you haven’t. Anyway hasn’t been proven that he worked them like dog’s so you’ll agree that to blame him or his fitness coach is unfair? Don’t answer that you stay on that objective fence rarely giving opinions but butting in all the same. Good lad

  39. Charlie George

    Dani Al

    You are espousing undeniably logical rational

    But we are The Arsenal.The Once Mighty Arsenal

    We strive to be first- not fourth.
    Failing that – we strive to play exhilarating football.

    The empty seats today were reminiscent of a testimonial match for an unpopular player.
    the Arsenal masses ain’t buying this shite,
    it may be expedient and functional- but we are not Burnley Fc! ( 6th last year)
    We must demand more!

    emery out!

  40. Bamford10

    Champagne

    “IF Emery has worked the players to within an inch of their lives …”

    There is no evidence to support this claim whatsoever.

  41. Pedro

    Bamford, taking your hot take on Marko’s hot take after you suggested Arsenal are weaker this season is a difficult jump for me.

  42. Marko

    Just take the L, admit you’re wrong, and find something new to talk about where you can win.

    What am I wrong on? You haven’t proven anything. Hey I’m man enough to admit when I’m wrong are you? I mean you’ve said so many wrong things over the past couple months and things you can’t back up and you continue to do it and nothing. I say that he can’t be blamed for some of the injuries suffered this season and I’m wrong? You say but can’t prove a bunch of stuff about double training sessions and fatigue being the cause of all the injuries and you’re right somehow. It’s wonderful I suppose running a blog yourself because you can say anything you like and it has to be right and anything said differently to it is just laughed off or silenced. Last point just so you know you haven’t proven your side of the argument not once. And your opinion on the hiring of a conditions coach is so misguided and irrelevant.

  43. Charlie George

    Hillwood

    “”””
    So you think countries should go into a knock out tournament with no idea how their players will perform together?”””””

    its only football , my friend – its what happens on the day!
    The reason why Aaron Ramsey – is one of Arsenal greatest ever players?

    On the big occasion – that lad shines and scores WINNERS! – the others shrink!
    you can train until the cows come home- but it does not mean a thing.

    keep it simple.

    trust me- coaches and coaching badges*** are a scourge of the modern game

    **along with poncy agents/spivvy DOFs/ TV companies/ estate agents/ traffic wardens ,pressing tactics and drama queens

  44. DaniAltos

    @Marko it’s clear you won’t win in your back and forth with Pedro because we all know he hates Emery and will use every possible angle to discredit him.Every thing is Emery’s fault these days,even the creation of a s o called ‘spanish cabal’ lol 😂.Anyway,a quick look at most prominent coaches and you will realise that many of them go with ‘their guys’ to almost every gig they are hired.

  45. DaniAltos

    @ Charlie George the empty seats and apathy started in the last two seasons because of we know who.Even in business,popular companies that have fallen take time to market and get back to their Glory days…it doesn’t just happen overnight..as for your ‘We are the Arsenal’ comment,I am wondering where was the vigour to spout all this daily ‘we are supposed to be first’ hetoric when Wenger was in charge

  46. DaniAltos

    Also if am not wrong I remember a few posters here as far back as 2014 predicting future fan apathy if Wenger’s tenure continues and we all witnessed that last season.It will take time to bring Arsenal up to speed

  47. TheBoyCornelius

    Pedro..maybe that’s the outcome here. Gazidas looked to be trying to get such a setup in place but he jumped ship. Maybe now Raul and Unai will get this off the ground properly. It’s what they know from experience so maybe they bring that to us

  48. Marko

    It’s not about winning anything and there’s so much you can criticize him for but to blame him for someone suffering an ACL injury for example is low. And as for the problems with him bringing his own conditions coach it’s utterly pointless. Everyone does it. Complain about something else I say

  49. Pedro

    TheBoy, it’s Ivan’s fault, he shit the bed with the management hire and didn’t follow through with his modernizing plan when he let Emery bring his own people.

  50. Charlie George

    PedRos Arsenal antennae is what keeps this exceptional blog alive and fresh,
    He is a man of probity,
    He is palpably fair – with us all. He gets pushed from pillar to post- with regards to what is deemed to be offensive- or not.

    He is unfailingly civil and polite.

    He seems a hugely impressive chap!

  51. Bamford10

    “Everyone does it” IS actually a pretty good counterpoint. If Pep brought his own guy, and Klopp brought his own guy, and other managers brought their own guy, then there is no obvious problem with Emery bringing his own guy.

    Unless you have evidence that Emery’s guy is not competent. Do you have any such evidence?

  52. DaniAltos

    Even if Emery contributed to fatigue with heavy training I will still support him because this players need heavy training and tactical sessions to remove their stupidity since it is obvious under Wenger they weren’t doing anything.How many times have we read ex arsenal players saying they were shocked when they participated in training sessions in other clubs?As Marko has asked what is the opinion on klopp and pep bringing their own people,or is it Emery alone who is not supposed to bring his guys?

  53. Jamie

    To whom or to what do we attribute Kompany’s injuries? Overzealous training? Negligent medical staff? Bad luck?

    Xhaka eats the alleged double training sessions and has played virtually every week this season.

    Not to piss in the soup, but why the anomalies?

  54. Valentin

    Anybody think Chelsea will implode after the Carabao Cup loss?

    This weekend, we had the best results possible.
    ManUtd drawing means that we are now in top 4.
    Chelsea losing after extra time and penalties with the goalkeeper undermining the coach. Hopefully Sarri will not be sacked until the end of the season, but the rest of the season will just be a slow painful slug for them.
    With the extra time, Chelsea will be tired and fell off the top 4 race.

  55. Champagne charlie

    “ “IF Emery has worked the players to within an inch of their lives …” There is no evidence to support this claim whatsoever.”

    That’s why I said “IF”, didn’t you study English at University?

    Also, on the subject of claims, are you saying Pedro is lying about overtraining? On what strength are you countering this?

  56. TheBoyCornelius

    Pedro I agree Gazidas half arsed it, but I still have some hope Raul can turn it round with Unai and hopefully Monchi. We have to follow through with this, not fuck it off like Ivan did when he lost his bottle without Wenger to take the fall. But conversely if this time next year we haven’t got our shit together we cant delay with correcting course

  57. Jamie

    If someone claims that intense training and/or substandard medical advice has contributed to our injuries, the burden of proof falls on that person.

    I’ll butt out, but I’m still going to read along. Interesting discussion.

  58. Marko

    ‘Everyone does it’ is a very solid counter-point.

    If the argument being made is why we allowed him to bring his own conditions coach then yes yes it is

  59. DaniAltos

    It seems Pedro’s has learned the ‘ones who shall not be named’ ways of using quips or the usual ‘I have more inside info than you on this matter’ method when questioned.Welbz has been an injury prone player even before Emery came here yet a simple awkward landing on his is largely attributed to Emery because of his ‘overtraining’ my God

  60. Marko

    didn’t follow through with his modernizing plan when he let Emery bring his own people

    This was never a plan. To hire a manager without his team? Not an actual thing in modern football. They all have their own guys

  61. Charlie George

    D A

    My rational is simple.

    If any fan admires coaches like Sarri/emery/ puel – deep down you don’t really like football.

    You may think – you do – but deep down you cant love the the beautiful game!

    The masses DA. – ain’t buying this Emery shite!

    emery out!

  62. DaniAltos

    To whom or to what do we attribute Kompany’s injuries? Overzealous training? Negligent medical staff? Bad luck?Xhaka eats the alleged double training sessions and has played virtually every week this season. Not to piss in the soup, but why the anomalies?…very good point, unfortunately you are dealing with people who are using every angle to batter Emery,passing up rumours as fact but when they are asked to actually back it up with eveidence they resort to silly quips…at least Marko has actually backed up his claim of managers carrying their own people with actual names…am yet to see any evidence that welbeck’s ankle injury was due to fatigue…except of course claims of deeper sports science knowledge by some

  63. Alexanderhenry

    Pedro

    I’m just on here to constantly repeat myself and bore everyone to death.

    Seriously though, I know my argument is a dead end, a discursive cul de sac if you like, and I know you have to write articles covering a number of different subjects, ideally with a positive spin. If you don’t this blog will become boring.

    All the technical stuff is interesting so fair dues.
    Whether it will make any difference or whether it’s all just moving deck chairs is another matter.
    We’ll just have to see how things pan out.

    One thing I’m certain of is this:
    arsenal fans don’t have the patience for a grand, five year restructuring plan. They want to see improvement on the pitch sooner rather than later.
    If all the club is promoting are new backroom staff and technical hires off the pitch and at the same time pleading poverty or ffp or ‘values’, those fans will get very pissed off very quickly.

  64. Radio Raheem

    Monaco shooting up the table with Jardim’s return. Henry should’ve stayed behind to learn a thing or two from a top manager.

  65. DaniAltos

    “If someone claims that intense training and/or substandard medical advice has contributed to our injuries, the burden of proof falls on that person.”Leno,xhaka ,aubameyang,torreira and guendouzi have all been part of this so called intense training yet am not seeing them breaking down.Meanwhile welbeck,Koscielny,niles among others are prominent members of our physio room.Pep and klopp in their first seasons also had players falling like flies,it could also be that players are adapting to the manager’s new methods,no?..I’d understand people throwing suggestions as to reasons why but not to pass things up as fact with no actual evidence

  66. Pedro

    Red, how often do you attend?

    Alex, we’re never getting rid of Stan, and even if we did, we’d still need a structure in place.

  67. Pedro

    Red, didn’t you spend a number of years criticising fans for going to Arsenal, citing the support for Wenger being an issue?

  68. Pedro

    Alex,

    Football is a crazy sport. You do basically nothing and all the numbers tick up.

    Ivan G landed a job in Milan for sitting behind a desk for 10 years.

    Only hope of Stan leaving is if fans stop watching EPL.

    Seems unlikely

  69. bennydevito

    Just watched MOTD.

    Some points:

    Lacazette should have had a hat trick.
    Leno made some good saves.
    Iwobi’s really starting to show good signs of improvement.
    Ramsey started and Suarez didn’t – there goes the ridiculous Emery was desperate for Suarez over Ramsey nonsense.
    Stadium looked pretty full to me, no issues of dwindling attendances any moreso than under Wenger the last few seasons.
    Mihkitaryan brings much needed balance and oomph to our attacking play.
    Emery looks the business in a suit and red the. Very classy.
    We’re 4th.
    8 points better than last season.

    I fancy Utd to slip up at Palace, a draw there. Chelsea Spurs could be a draw too. As long as we beat Bournemouth things will be set up nicely for Spurs at Wembley.

    What’s really positive and refreshing for me is that unlike last season and the season before, this time around we’ve still got plenty to play for.

  70. Words on a Blog

    I was at the match at the Emirates today and, once again , and more so than the match against BATE, Arsenal really clicked, particularly in the first half, which was good to see.

    I know the majority here don’t rate him, but Iwobi was pretty damn good. He is emphatically not an elegant player, but he’s a pretty good dribbler, makes things happen, and has an eye for a key pass.

    When it’s working the Iwobi/Kola combo is pretty effective down the left, and Kola is pretty scary when he’s on a run – the Southampton defenders looked terrified of him.

    I’ll let others debate the merits of Emery’s training regime and physio preferences, but I’m pretty glad the football is picking up.

  71. bennydevito

    Going through the comments and boy oh boy.

    As long as I’ve been following football pretty much every new manager brings his entourage with him, it’s pretty standard. Pep did it, Klopp did it, Poch did it, and on and on and Ariston.

    If injuries are a result of Emery’s training methods then previous injuries are 100% attributable to the respective previous managers. To say they’re not but Emery’s are is incredibly agenda driven.

    Just my honest opinion.

    Bamford. Let’s not start going over double training sessionsgate all over again ffs!

  72. Words on a Blog

    I agree with Benny D – the stuff on double training, physios and injuries is pretty agenda driven.

    More importantly, it’s unprovable either way, and really, really boring.

  73. bennydevito

    DaniAltosFebruary 24, 2019    21:42:14

    It is absolutely embarassing that the Arsenal are sitting on fourth after a win and some posters still can’t help themselves in regards to flogging the manager.You will also realize that most if them are hyoocrites and plain liars.One of them just listed suarez in a list of our most technical players after weeks of bashing him,another one doesn’t even have a clue on when the Europa league started acting as a backdoor to the Ucl and some are even suggesting that Emery is putting up a Spanish cabal.One look at this blog and you would think that we are in a relegation dog fight(a West Ham supporting friend’s words).Finally,the irony of people crying over puel’s sacking because he plays good football with a negative GD(just go on Twitter and check the Leicester Fans’ comments lol)and the same guys wanting Emery to be sacked SMH!

    >>>>>>>>

    Dani, take a bow son! Please come back and comment more often, you bring much needed balance to this comments section.

    >>>>>>>

    DaniAltosFebruary 24, 2019    22:08:57

    @ Charlie George the empty seats and apathy started in the last two seasons because of we know who.Even in business,popular companies that have fallen take time to market and get back to their Glory days…it doesn’t just happen overnight..as for your ‘We are the Arsenal’ comment,I am wondering where was the vigour to spout all this daily ‘we are supposed to be first’ hetoric when Wenger was in charge

    DaniAltosFebruary 24, 2019    22:11:26

    Also if am not wrong I remember a few posters here as far back as 2014 predicting future fan apathy if Wenger’s tenure continues and we all witnessed that last season.It will take time to bring Arsenal up to speed

    >>>>>>

    Dani, again; great comments! Having just watched MOTD I didn’t see that many empty seats at all and especially none more than last season or the season before for sure.

    This is a rot that set in long ago under Wenger but as per and is standard in here now, people are trying to blame it on Emery. The fact most of them were die hard cult of Wwngerites and in denial of Wenger’s ineptitude, it’s not surprising.

  74. MidwestGun

    If you want to see hot garbage you should have watched that Pool v ManU. match… In what was supposed to be a showcase match of special sauce managers..for the EPL , it was an absolute borefest. Neither side looked remotely interested in scoring nor was their any evidence of style or substance.. I took a nap for 15 mins.. woke up and it was exactly the same..

    Meanwhile our match was over in 10 mins and we saw it out in a professional manner.. I come on here to read about it and all I see is 2 pages of ranting and raving by a lunatic about frauds and slandering a man basically.. If you haven’t noticed Pedro all Charlie George is doing is taking every argument ever used against Arsene Wenger and turning it on Emery in a trolling manner because it’s clear he was one of those people all summer that was saying once AW leaves we will be battling relegations and be careful what you wish for.
    I don’t have a problem with people making an opinion we can do better then Emery but that’s not what he is doing and its ruining your argument because in it’s bottom line essence you want the same .. thing. And by allowing him to make questionable slanders against Emery’s nationality.. your in essence supporting it. And I don’t think its uplifting the comment section… that’s my opinion..

    Put it this way… if this is the comment section of love ..I don’t think I know what love is then.. Anyways, I am enjoying Chelsea’s epic collapse I must say… and I think the Spurs are ripe for a similar outcome. And bottom line no matter what the play on the pitch is like.. this season is interesting because AW is not here and nobody knows what the outcome will be. Took us 2 decades to get here so I am gonna enjoy that aspect immensely

  75. bennydevito

    Woab,

    I think Iwobi is showing great signs of improvement and a lot moreso than was evident under Wenger.

    Which is odd because Emery doesn’t like, play or know how to develop young players… and he’s not Spanish so goodness knows what’s happening there.

  76. Pedro

    ‘Everyone else does it’ has firstly, not been qualified by anyone.

    Secondly, the very essence of doing things the same as others is hardly inspired thinking considering our situation.

    We need to be hunting out an edge, not trying to do a shit version of what those around us are doing.

    You’re all saying it because you can’t actually justify any logic behind the hire, namely because there isn’t any if you believe in hiring on excellence, not nepotism.

    But we’ll see how much of a winning recipe this is next year at this time.

  77. Words on a Blog

    BennyD – yeah, really strange that about Emery’s treatment of Iwobi.

    Cuts across everything some of the sages here in the comments section are saying.

    Waiting for someone to crank up a conspiracy theory about this mystery….

  78. Charlie George

    It is little wonder -crowds are plummeting when we have a coach- who favours the geriatric Lich – over the more exciting and potent players like Ozil and PEA. ..( benched)

    That’s surely – not punters want to see.

    Get your best players out on the pitch.
    And Get the 3 points by playing entertaining football..

    There were 5 goals out there today in the n5 sunshine…
    Hopefully- that’s the end of the Lich in a red shirt – and he can be put out to pasture……

    He will do down as one of Arsenals worst ever signings….

    There may well be a groundswell of support for Emery on here- but the locals are not buying into his ways.

    I can’t not see that ever changing……

  79. Pedro

    Midwest, CG knows the drill now. No personal attacks. I can’t ban someone for thinking Roy Hodgson is an elite manager though.

    Interesting how sensitive everyone is to Emery, don’t remember Wenger getting that treatment this time last year when I was deleting unsavoury comments behind the scenes.

  80. MidwestGun

    Hey Diss.. I’m doin ok and you? Good to see your still here.. I know things change.. But that what we all wanted right is the ability to have a season that isn’t a Groundhog season… we could finish anywhere from 3rd to 6th… at this point I have no idea.

    I’m actually enjoying all of Pedro’s blogs because they aren’t rehashes from 7 years ago.. and ill be honest I don’t read all the comments any more. Don’t have the time.. until lately ..

  81. Pedro

    No CG, just personal attacks on Emery need to lighten up. Attack his approach and his results.

    Also, yellow card for hyping Roy Hodgson.

  82. Pierre

    Bennydevito & words on the bog

    Good performance today , I have a feeling that sokratis may be the key to where we finish this season .
    If he remains fit then I can see us looking more solid defensively , he seems to give the team a bit of security.

    We looked sharper in attack ,moved the ball nice and quickly with some nice intricate moves. It probably helped that Southampton have us the space to play in but we still utilised that space well.

    Football is all about combinations and partnerships.
    Kolasinac and iwobi do work well together although iwobi can be frustrating at times.
    Xhaka and Torreira are an excellent partnership in the middle and although Guendouzi has done well it won’t hurt him to sit out for a while.
    Sokratis needs to find the correct defensive partner , holding was doing well earlier in the season , Emery needs to decide if it’s kosielny or mustafi to partner him until the end of the season.
    Emery I don’t think has found a way of getting the best out of our CA M whoever he is , for some reason our CAM are not as effective as they were under our previous manager .
    Ramsey was rarely involved in the build up today though he was substituted today just as he was becoming more involved

    Our problem ,as last season, is our away form ..The manager need to find a way to get the team playing on the front foot away from home . Often we have started quite well away from home and then faded and run out of ideas.

    Before the game I was surprised at the team Emery put out but we played well and I am pleased to see he has reverted back to the 4-2-3-1 system that was so effective early season.

    United and Chelsea will drop points in the run in as they have quite a heavy fixture congestion.
    We have a nice draw in Europe so we should progress without too much trouble and so we can concentrate on the league until the latter rounds in europe.

    2 half decent wins this week doesn’t mean we have turned a corner , we have a run of away fixtures that will determine that .

  83. Charlie George

    Roy H
    Showing us, even at 70- you never stop learning
    He is doing A stunning job.
    I hope- they win the Cup.

    I think – he would make an excellent Tech Director for us…..

  84. bennydevito

    Pedro,

    Pep’s staff he brought with him to City:

    https://www.mancity.com/news/club-news/club-news/2016/july/pep-guardiola-backroom-staff-revealed

    Klopp brought a few:

    https://www.thisisanfield.com/clubinfo/staff/

    About 6 staff joined Man Utd with Mourinho

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-utd-coaching-staff-solskjaer-15578527

    Poch took his Southampton backroom team with him to Spurs:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/mauricio-pochettino-lands-spurs-role-on-back-of-developing-saints-team-9442745.html

    So many more examples if need be

  85. bennydevito

    Woab,

    You were there today. Care to tell us all what the attendance was? Any less than usual? Any less than last season under Wenger?

  86. MidwestGun

    Mourinhio/Klopp/ Pep are A raters.
    They DEMAND
    Emery is a C rater
    He is TOLD.
    ________
    Might want to get your story straight… I thought Emery was telling the Club who to come here in the executive suite and telling them who to target in transfers?

  87. Pedro

    Benny, to reiterate:

    I said the manager should be allowed to bring 2-3 coaching staff.

    ‘Pochettino brings with him his backroom staff from St Mary’s in assistant manager Jesus Perez, first-team coach Miguel D’Agostino and goalkeeping coach Toni Jimenez. ‘

    Reads like 3 signings that are coaching staff, unless I’m missing something?

    Mourinho is a superstar manager and he cost £25m in total to exit. David Moyes was the issue because United fired all coaches that knew the club. What happened? Things went to shit. That was compounded by LVG who hired a bunch of shit. Then Mourinho had to do the same. Club should have kept title winning staff, huge mistake.

    Pep is a superstar manager, he’s bringing people from his time at Barca back to a Barca run club. Pretty simple there. Even if that weren’t the case, Pep could make a cat the head of performance and he’d be allowed to.

    Klopp is a superstar manager, I don’t know what the deal was with his backroom team, but attracting a name that big to live in Liverpool was huge for them.

    You can find examples of whatever you want.

    There really is no logic in allowing a manager to bring staff he is not qualified to judge. It’s not best practice, nor is it standard across football these days.

  88. Pedro

    Additionally Benny, you know why Poch didn’t take 30 staff with him, because Southampton make the key hires to ensure a manager leaving doesn’t kill them.

  89. Pierre

    Bennydevito & danni autos
    “One of them just listed suarez in a list of our most technical players after weeks of bashing him”

    I presume you are talking about me .

    I criticised the signing of Saurez because I couldn’t see how he would get a game due to us having Mhkitaryan,Ozil ,iwobi and Ramsey who can play his position.

    However, now he is at the club I have said would like to see him get some game time as he is very good technically , has a good First touch and good movement and also appears to want to pass to a team mate.

    It exactly bashing him is it and yes ,I do think he is one of our most technical players

  90. MidwestGun

    Alright… Y’all I’m off to watch some A-list Hollywood types make some passionate speeches about stuff they don’t really care about to make themselves look better.

    Keep it real… Vote for Pedro!

  91. Charlie George

    Mid
    Raul is running the show.

    His stooge is Emery.
    Those 2 leave together( whenever that is)
    The Day Gazidas went- Monchi was coming in….. granted Emery chose his mate…
    Swen M was serenely ushered out the door to facilitate Monchi ..

    So is Rambo.(Very spiteful sub from Emery today- I thought.)

    And They will try to oust Ozil
    ( I am backing Ozil in this civil war)

    Three Amigos will wreck carnage at Arsenal.

  92. Words on a Blog

    Benny D
    I’ve been to every home match and, perhaps with the exception of a couple of the group stage Europa matches, attendances are up relative to the dismal final Wenger years.

  93. bennydevito

    Pedro,

    I’m not saying it’s a good thing to do or the right thing to do as it’s worked with Pep, Poch & Klopp, but didn’t work with Mourinho. I’m just saying it is a common practice.

    In my mind there should be a strong management structure in place independent of each other and the manager to avoid nepotism, cronyism and complacency and bad habits, and to avoid multiple layouts and turnover of staff each time the manager is changed.

  94. Words on a Blog

    Also, It doesn’t look like attendances are on the decline at the Emirates relative to the beginning of the season

  95. Charlie George

    “Bd

    “””:” independent of each other and the manager to avoid nepotism, cronyism”” “”

    If the 3 Amigos Pact is not lazy cronyism- nothing is…

    It’s a disgusting state of affairs for a club of our magnitude!
    Shameful.. that people support it.

  96. Words on a Blog

    Pedro, your “managerial”critique of Emery, i.e., that he is not “cutting edge” , or that he is lacking in man management skills, or that he’s an empire builder, etc, compared to others may or may not have merit.

    But it’s really premature, and I feel that sometimes you’re grasping at”evidence” to make your point(s).And that evidence is just easy to rebut.

    When you made similar points against Wenger, you had a really powerful case, and those trying to set out a counter case looked like trolls,head-in-the-sand ostriches, or weird nostalgic traditionalists.

    At the moment the guys setting out a counter case seem pretty sensible, and definitely un-troll-like.

    Why not at least wait and see how the season pans out (and the evidence either way to accumulate) before laying out your case?

  97. bennydevito

    Charlie GeorgeFebruary 25, 2019    00:35:57

    It is little wonder -crowds are plummeting when we have a coach- who favours the geriatric Lich – over the more exciting and potent players like Ozil and PEA. ..( benched

    >>>>>>

    Facepalm.

    It’s called squad rotation after an away match in Europe on Thursday!!!

    Ozil and PEA aren’t defenders!!!!!!!!

    Duuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh!!!

    Also Woab has confirmed he’s been to every home prem game this season and attendances are UP on last season under Wenger.

    You really need to stop lying.

    Spiteful substitution? What on earth are you talking about??

    You’re pathetic and you’re desperate.

    According to you, Ramsey was never going to see the first team again because Emery desperately signed Suarez to force Ramsey out.

    Trouble is Ramsey started and Suarez was nowhere to be seen… and who came on for Ramsey? Oh yes – Ozil, someone else you said Emery will favour Suarez over.

    You really are a first class pillock.

    You are the laughing stock of LeGrove.

  98. bennydevito

    PedroFebruary 25, 2019    00:36:28

    Midwest, CG knows the drill now. No personal attacks. I can’t ban someone for thinking Roy Hodgson is an elite manager though.

    Interesting how sensitive everyone is to Emery, don’t remember Wenger getting that treatment this time last year when I was deleting unsavoury comments behind the scenes

    >>>>>>

    Pedro,

    I for one didn’t frequent the comments section last year because I was bored of Wenger. I read your posts, shared them on Twitter etc but very rarely read the comments so I myself wouldn’t have seen the unsavoury remarks about Wenger, and if you were deleting them behind the scenes perhaps not many other people saw them either?

    Furthermore you should recall at the start of LeGrove Geoff would bin me on multiple occasions, and what were they for? For objecting to Wenger being called a French this, or frog that etc, etc.

    I got binned for saying how ironic it was that the blog was called LeGrove yet everyone was being really anti French. It was bad.

    So I very much did have issues with Wenger’s xenophic critism just as I do now with Emery’s.

    You’ve worked really hard growing brand LG and the world is a very different place now with social media blowing up hand in hand with political correctness so I don’t think it’s fair for LG to be tarnished by a few dinosaurs in here pissing all over your reputation.

    Anyway, I need to get off; early start to a long day starting with the school run.

    Night all.

  99. gonsterous

    fock me, next week the spuds. Can we do a domestic double against them ? I don’t think so, If we lose or draw against spuds, the man utd game becomes a decider. I hope every one at arsenal will be telling the lads what’s expected next weekend.

  100. gonsterous

    benny

    the funny thing is, why should arsenal fans call each other rude words when we have smug pool fans who act like they have the title in the bag, not to mention the wankers who think london is blue or white.
    Why are we not directing our filth towards those cunts ?

  101. Tony

    ES – Bob N16 – G62

    Thought I’d wait until the game and Monchi posts subsided before mentioning the England v Wales game.

    My gut said we were going to lose this game, and it’s rarely wrong. England got stuck between their attacking kicking and running game and their defensive tactics where their attacking running game line tactics were greatly reduced.

    I’ve always believed that England’s kicking game has to be at 100% and their penalty count needs to be both below 8 and their opponents for England to win the big games.

    Wales only had 3 penalties to Englands 9, thereby nullifying Farrells kicks at goal points scoring potential, and Englands space finding kicking game was poor.

    England should have put the game away or at least been an additional 3 to 8 points up in the first half.

    They let Wales win the 2nd half accruing more points to win.

    England missed Itoje and Farrell was not commanding in the 2nd half.

    Bottom line is Jones should have subbed Farrell, and this is where we need Cipriati as the back up creator in the squad. Ford is too lightweight in games of this intensity and easily targeted.

    Wales beat England and Gatland beat Jones. Simple as that, but a great game to watch nevertheless.

    England need Ireland to do them a favour beating Wales and England should comfortably beat Italy and will have a hard fight against the Scots at Twickenham where they should win and pick up more bonus points.

    Maybe the loss against Wales will have a silver lining where Jones will see what he needs to do to get England to win in tight games at a tournament, and where Jones will now hopefully seriously reconsider Cipriati for Japan because Jones is placing too much on Farrell.

  102. Tony

    Monchi
    Interesting posts on this potential acquisition for TD, but let’s see if Monchi accepts.

    You never know with Arsenal and it’s getting nearer to season ticket renewal time when the inevitable PR performs its Renew Renew Renew propaganda.

    If we do get Monchi’s services, I’ll add him to my wait-and-see folder along with Emery and the summer TW window. I prefer to base my thinking on facts.

    Also why wait until June to get Monchi if he has a £1million buy-out clause? We need a TD or DoF now to plan for the summer TW.

    Good to get the win yesterday, but poor and boring stop/start 2nd half showing where we let Southampton peg us back.

    Apart from one flick to Auba, Ozil did little to impress me. Ozil’s use of space is awful when trying to narrow opponents passing opportunities.

    Ozil is both lazy and cowardly where he doesn’t get stuck in to tackles when pressing; Ozil just runs almost casually up to the player with the ball giving said player time to move the ball.

    One particular moment when watching Ozil’s defensive movements was when Ozil pointed for an Arsenal player to go wide left to narrow the space where there was no Arsenal player anywhere near to do so.

    Ozil was too lazy to run out the 15 meters or so to the left himself and just threw the obligatory indicating arm out for the cameras to pick up.

    Ozil had only been on the pitch about 5 minutes when the above happened.

    I’ve always stated here that Ozil is in the wrong league; he should be in Italy, MLS or similar.

    Equally, as I read recently Ozil is the Icing-On-The-Cake type of player where he needs Barca quality type players to feed.

    Ozil is never going to have that at Arsenal.

    Ozil is here for the money. No one can blame him for that no matter how upsetting that is for the fans.

    The Ozil blame lays firmly with Wenger/Gazidis.

    Emery should keep playing Ozil in most games telling Ozil to earn his money. Let Ozil have plenty of rope and we’ll see what transpires.

    When Ozil quickly finds his injuries’ and illnesses’ excuses Emery should let the fans exercise their Ozil frustrations on the player and sit back while it happens.

    So another winnable game Wednesday and United may well be injury depleted by the time they come to the Emirates.

    Just can’t see our away form improving so my previous predictions still stand, especially as our 2nd half was poor yesterday.

  103. azed

    “Good performance today , I have a feeling that sokratis may be the key to where we finish this season .
    If he remains fit then I can see us looking more solid defensively , he seems to give the team a bit of security.”

    I could have sworn Dissenter, BennyD, Ishola and a few other have being saying the injuries in defence particularly to Holding when he was hitting his stride affected the team.

  104. Nelson

    From now on, the team should only play 2 CB’s. Against weaker opponents, we’ll play 4-2-3-1 with Torr and Xhaka as 2 DM’s. Against strong opponents, we’ll use Guen as the third CM. He’ll have the freedom of moving up as CAM or moving back as DM. It won’t affect the other nine outfield players. We should keep this identity of the team to minimize confusions.

  105. qna

    So I dont know if Overmars is a good option to be honest. But this sounds a lot like the Emery situation. We couldn’t get our first choice, so we go, ok no worries, lets get Monchi.

    Surely we can reach agreement over a fee for Overmars to release him from Ajax if that’s the guy we want and he wants to come to us.

  106. siddharth14

    Pedro, please calm down. We really enjoy this blog and your articles. But your aggressive stance regarding injuries that should be attributed to Emery are making you look like agenda driven.

    You are spot on in questioning about Emery’s style of play (which we still have no idea), the absolute mess our defense has been since Rob Holding got injured and shows no sign of coming in a decent shape in the short term. These things are out in the open and even people who are staunch supporters of Emery know this even though they might try to deflect it by mentioning our poor squad and not publicly accept it.

    It doesn’t fill me either with excitement or hope for the second season, with what Emery has displayed in 6 to 7 months so far. But our present situation i.e. fighting for top four in the league and having an outside chance in the Europe league should be seen as a positive by our fans.

    This relentless bashing of Emery needs to stop and he should at least be given until the end of the season before bringing out our ammunition against him.

  107. Valentin

    Funny how the squad left by Wenger was absolutely dross, but here we are 4th.
    I always said that our squad is the 4th best squad and that top 4 is achievable with little investment.
    ManUtd, ManCity and Liverpool are ahead of everybody else in term of squad, quality and balance.
    Out of Chelsea First 11, the only players superior to ours are Kante, Hazard and maybe their goalkeeper. A fit Higuain may edge Lacazette, but right now he is overweight.
    Same with Spurs, man for man I would only swap for Kane, Christiansen, Vertonghen and maybe Lloris.

    Today we had a good victory helped by the muddle tactics used by Southampton. Trying to outplay us was never going to work. They should have tried to make a street fight.

  108. Valentin

    Nathan Redmond showed why despite his talent no big clubs have taken a punt on him. He will coaching in area of his game where he should already be proficient.
    He fluffed his big chance at 0-0, because of his technique. Instead of cutting across Mustafi path, he stay on the right. That gave Mustafi the opportunity to slow him down, and Leno to then come forward. If he had cut across, Mustafi would not have been able to interfere without risking a penalty and a straight red card.
    The rest of his game was the same, great movement off the ball and then poor decisions on the ball. He is at the stage of development than Rahim Sterling was before he went to ManCity, but I fear that without proper coaching he will never take the step up. Which is a shame, because he has all the attributes to be an excellent footballer.

  109. Valentin

    Iwobi development is a strange one.
    Emery has clearly given him confidence, so he tries more tricks and dribble than before. However I think that his final ball is getting worse.
    I may be wrong, but I think he has played more than year, but has less assists and less goal scored.
    He is frustrating because he does a lot of good thing but he tends to not release the ball early enough.
    Also somebody should spend some shooting sessions with him, his shooting is atrocious. He tries to kick the ball too hard instead of concentrating on hitting the target.

  110. mysticleaves

    “It is little wonder -crowds are plummeting when we have a coach- who favours the geriatric Lich – over the more exciting and potent players like Ozil and PEA. ..( benched)”

    Just look at the things we have to read these days on this blog. Cringe worthy. Ozil should definitely start at RB next match

  111. mysticleaves

    Marko, good job on Peter yesterday. Everyone saw who deserved an L. But at this point I ask why bother? Everyone knows what the blog has turned into. I would rather make fun of his posts in the most enabling ways from now on if I were you cos this narrative ain’t changing anytime soon

  112. mysticleaves

    “I may be wrong, but I think he has played more than year, but has less assists and less goal scored.”

    Yes Mr Valentin yiu are wrong.

    Also I think you might have serious Arsenal – spurs bias. Currently i would take Toby, Vertoghen and Sanchez over Mustafi, Sok (debatable) and Kos. I would also take Son over Iwobi/Miki. That’s in addition to Kane and Erikson

  113. Valentin

    @mysticle,

    Just checked Iwobi stats and guess what I am right.
    He had one more assist last year 5 instead of 4 and the same number of goals 3. He has made 2 less appearances 24 instead of 26, but played more minutes overall.

    Toby is not playing in their first 11. Sanchez who went put under pressure makes mistake. Spurs may be better as a team, that does not make the individual players better.
    Regarding Son, he is a very good player, but he has license to roam, things that our players do not have. His influence will therefore be greater. I’ll take a Özil or Ramsey unshackled with defensive duty over Son.

  114. Pierre

    Tony
    “Apart from one flick to Auba, Ozil did little to impress me. Ozil’s use of space is awful when trying to narrow opponents passing opportunities. Ozil is both lazy and cowardly where he doesn’t get stuck in to tackles when pressing; Ozil just runs almost casually up to the player with the ball giving said player time to move the ball.One particular moment when watching Ozil’s defensive movements was when Ozil pointed for an Arsenal player to go wide left to narrow the space where there was no Arsenal player anywhere near to do so. Ozil was too lazy to run out the 15 meters or so to the left himself and just threw the obligatory indicating arm out for the cameras to pick up. Ozil had only been on the pitch about 5 minutes when the above happened”

    Bless you …all those words put together to make sentences without making any sense.

  115. DivineSherlock

    Shame that Pedro would quote Valentin on Arsenal but would not show a counter point and quote Marko on it. I don’t care about style , that can come later. Right now this season should be qualifying for UCL . Also with the injuries to ManUtd and instability at Chelsea we should take this advantage. Emery seems to be doing that . I dont get Pedro’s beef with Emery.

  116. Emiratesstroller

    Tony

    I think that England’s fixture schedule had a lot to do with Saturday’s result.

    We played on paper the three most difficult matches back to back with two away games against Ireland and Wales. All these games were fairly intense affairs.

    England played to a formula which worked well in first two games, but I think that Wales were well prepared for England’s kicking game.

    England lost through injury two influential players in Itoje and Mako Vunipola and I think that did have impact on our scrum.

    Also Wales were able to rotate their squad much better than England, because
    their earlier matches were easier on paper. England by contrast were less able to do so.

    Frankly I thought that England ran out of puff in the latter stages of Saturday’s game. As you say Farrell did not have his best game.

    My personal view is that the scheduling of matches needs a review. It is impacting on the performance in both international and premiership games.
    Saracens played on Friday against Gloucester and lost. Saracens were without
    8 first choice players. In contrast Gloucester without any international players
    with games this weekend turned out their best team and won.

  117. Emiratesstroller

    Pierre

    I did not go to yesterday’s game, because of other commitments. So it is difficult for me to express an opinion on how we played.

    Some have criticised the manager for team selected but realistically I think that he made the right decisions because we are playing 5 games in 10 days and I don’t think that we should play our first choice side all the time.

    The BAT fixture made selections more difficult, because of our away loss one
    week previously.

    Clearly playing Sokratis in key games is a must, because the combination of
    Mustafi and Koscielny has never worked in recent seasons. Both are too similar and ‘mistake prone’. Koscielny is also past his best. The one surprise
    is that Mavropanos is not being offered any game time.

    Midfield needs still some investment. I agree with you that Xhaka and Torreira are a decent combination despite the constant criticism of some posters. Giendouzi is a good young player, but I don’t think that he should be
    starting as many games in EPL as he has done this season. The problem is that
    Emery seems unwilling to play Ramsey on a more regular basis.

    The arguments about Ozil’s performance is ongoing. If you operate a ‘hard
    working’ diamond formation as we did against BAT then I do think that Ozil
    works. He is the one midfielder in our squad who has the creativity and passing skills to unlock a tight defence.

    If you play a loose midfield then of course Ozil does not work because of his
    lack of intensity and defensive contribution.

  118. qna

    “How would you guys of reacted if that situation with Kep happened with Ozil and Emery? Playing devil’s advocate.”

    I would be ROFL.

  119. Charlie George

    “Tony

    “””Ozil is here for the money. No one can blame him for that no matter how upsetting that is for the fans”””

    He sure is.

    And so is Raul and his mates.
    Oh- and what about Emerys mates ( alleged coaches) here for?
    The love of AFC..

    Bizarre thing to say from a bright chap!

  120. DaniAltos

    Dani, again; great comments! Having just watched MOTD I didn’t see that many empty seats at all and especially none more than last season or the season before for sure.This is a rot that set in long ago under Wenger but as per and is standard in here now, people are trying to blame it on Emery. The fact most of them were die hard cult of Wwngerites and in denial of Wenger’s ineptitude, it’s not surprising

    Thank you and correctly put @ BennyD Wenger is gone and Arsenal is fourth after 27 games…if we could rewind to last season and ask how many fans would have taken this for 2019 I am pretty sure 90% here would smh

  121. Tony

    ES
    Makes sense what you say about the fixtures – perhaps Wales dd have an easier run, but in a world cup everyone will have many tough games in a row, so good for England to experience it now and for Jones to look at why we out our momentum and fitness if it was the latter.

    To be honest England & 6 Nations’ teams had a week’s rest, so fitness shouldn’t have been a factor.