Good morning people.
Today, I’m experimenting with ‘voice’ combined with the common blog format.
I’m working on the ‘voice-log’ with Dan Ahern from the Le Grove comments.
Would appreciate your ears and comments on whether you think this is a format worth continuing.
In the ‘voice-log’ we talk:
- Mesut being a piece of you-know-what
- We opine on Emery and his strategy
- We talk about how vision should be playing a bigger role in the future of the club
- We set the record straight on Ramsey
Go long and deep people.
See you on the other side.
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CC
The Spud’s also look like they could be losing Erikson to Barca, they have a click of players running their contracts down and the manager could fuck off as well.
It looks as if the Universe (I’m not going to start doing Quantum physics on a Sunday afternoon and call it a Multiverse) could be about to correct itself.
Pedro
Oh OK that’s good – did I mention that I think you are a wanker?
Coquelin’s skills set is perfect for La Liga.
He’s not even doing the tough guy routine anymore and is a ball-playing central midfielder.
I’m just watching him play for Valencia against Espanyol.
How much did we sell him for again?
12 million Euros for a 26 year old [at the time] player with dozens of champion’s league game experience!!!!!
The Arsenal sold Coquelin for 12 million Euros to Valencia who promptly slapped a release clause of 80 million Euros on him
Yet all people want to do is attack the manager.
Banford
I commented that the embedded format made it difficult for mobile use, so clearly you’ve not kept up. The difference was I didn’t make ridiculous remarks and threaten to no longer partake because I disagreed.
I also prefaced the “we” bollocks by saying I’ll do an impression of you in the hope it’d sink in. You’ve obviously missed that one too. Good day few days you’re having on here 😀
Sorry couldn’t help that!
Dissenter
Except that it has nothing to do with not rating Emery. I don’t really rate him either — not based on what we’ve seen so far at least.
You’ve missed the point. You might want to re-read the conversation, and this conversation goes back more than a week. And I am in no way, shape or form the only poster who is questioning Pedro’s tone or facts or treatment of the facts. Far from it.
Benny,
I could be the hugely wrong on Emery, but I think deep down, most can see the writing on the wall. If you can’t, just take a look at the history of Emery.
Read this if you haven’t
https://t.co/DvHGW7b24u?amp=1
Emery-gate, Pedro-gate, fuckyournewcommentsection-gate, Iwannabeamoderator-gate…
Don’t mind me, spitballing…
PedRo “”because I think emery is shit”” And you know , and I know and The Guru knows and the more discerning posters know this to be 100% true. It’s a bit like Jack Nickolsons character in that movie: ‘Some people can’t handle the truth’ Every slur or bit of abuse- take it’ as a badge of honour….( I love my daily insults.) Anyone who reverts to overt abuse- has lost their argument. They like Emery- because they are mini- Emerys in their own lives. Mediocre, bang average and devoid… You are doing stirling work. Your Sven scoop- was an… Read more »
Charlie GeorgeFebruary 17, 2019 16:10:52 Marc Gawd knows – how they do it. Borrow- like everybody else. Shows what absolutey unbelievable job Poch has done. And what good management ( which basically is making the sum of your parts bigger than what they should be ) can achieve Poch- penny for penny is the best manager by a country mile in the Prem. We have the worst. Truth hurts. >>>>>> “We have the worst”. Chuckle chuckle vision, Charlie Chuckle vision. The fact that there are 15 other managers presently below Emery in the Premier league tells us, no, we most… Read more »
There’s nothing wrong with losing your good player to Barcelons
..so long as you make Barca pay a Coutinho-type fee in CASH.
The same applies to Guadouzi, if a real offer comes, squeeze the buyer , get the money in cash and …sell.
Everyone has a price.
The only immutable goal is to build a balanced squad with the total greater than the sum of parts. Everything else is negotiable. No player is irreplaceable.
Pedro
No, I think I’ll stay and continue to contribute. But if I think you’re being hyperbolic or unfair or unreasonable or loose with the facts, I’m definitely going to say something about. Just like others will and have. Just as any good reader of the blog should.
Cheers.
.
The Dybala and CR7 drama has now become man crush, those two get in sync the Champions league could be theirs.
qnaFebruary 17, 2019 16:30:27
How to Draw a Long Bow….
>>>>
Brilliant post qna, and sounds like it’s straight out of the rule book of CG and some others on here.
benny
Aren’t there 96 clubs in the English football league and Emery’s bottom of the list, he must be doing something right if he’s that bad.
CG, totally ruthless post there 😂
Bam, i’m NYT tight on the facts
CC
You’re enjoying yourself, aren’t you?
I’ll remind you next time you get angry because someone butted into your conversation to swipe you hard.
Valentin. In football the teams that are successful are the ones that have invested heavily in their squads. They achieve their success with different managers. There are exceptions to the rule, but they are only that, exceptions.
Not doubting the quality of a good manager at all. You need both. Patriots also have had the best QB. Don’t follow the sport, but I’m guessing he may be close to the best ever.
Savaged without even knowing it.
Dissenter
If you paid closer attention you’d notice that’s a regular occurrence worth the same lot chiming in on what I say on here so spare me (once again riding high over there). Banford regularly dips in to comment on me alone and not mention a lick of football, Marko the same.
I don’t need a reminder from you, I don’t in fact need anything from you as I alluded to previously. Still, you persist in offering your view as if enlightened. I’d rather you skip me altogether, give that a go why don’t you.
Pedro Ornstein said he had no intention of staying which makes sense considering the amount of offers we had on the table. Obviously we pulled the last one but there were enough on the table for him to sign if that’s truly what he wanted. No point in talking about it though cause we’re both better off parting ways
CC
I’ll skip you the moment you decide to skip Bamford and all the other posters you disagree with.
Deal?
Pedro, what have you done?
Bamford’s been so loyal to you, probably feels like he was cheated on now.
Take tsk
Benny. Yeah, it’s sure is familiar from over the years.
Ramsey’s agent deserves an award
He knew there was chaos and uncertainly in the back room. He would have heard rumors that Gazidis’ future at the club was in doubt.
All he had to do was to run out the clock but then the club made his job easier when they pulled the contract.
The club must have had good reasons, pulling a contract isn’t common. The player got a better deal, one he would have killed for contrasted with playing for a Europa League team.
Media source Despite the victory, it was to be Tuchel’s only honour with the club (Dortmund), as he was fired three days later on 30 May 2017.[29] His tenure as first-team coach was marred with controversy, with a strained relationship with the club’s hierarchy, notably CEO Hans-Joachim Watzke.[27] Tuchel expressed discontent over the departures of Hummels, Gündoğan, and Mkhitaryan, who were sold despite alleged promises from Watzke that they would not leave. He also maintained fractured relations with club stalwarts Roman Weidenfeller, Neven Subotić, and Jakub Błaszczykowski, as he aimed to replace the ageing trio, an action that reportedly did not sit kindly with Watzke.[30] Tuchel also… Read more »
Sal
Yes, Upstate NY. Rochester area, to be exact.
Bamford’s getting far too hung up on the Bate result being a bigger reason for the discontentment with Emery.
Has little to do with that, we all know that we’ll smash them at home and progress.
Pedro + Grovers I don’t believe most bloggers here love Emery or think he is the best manager, we just don’t see any better options right now. Who deserves a transfer window to see if he can formulate and execute his vision. But if we were to end the Emery tenure. Who would you suggest in his place? Genuinely interested and open to responses. This sounds obvious but I really think we should be aiming specifically for a manager who has done wonders on a small budget, who has the ability to get the best out of youth players and… Read more »
WengerEagle
What are your reservationz regarding Emery.?
Valentin
New England patriots are the current era most successful team. The difference one man their manager.
I enjoy your posts for the most part but please don’t talk about something you have no idea about. If Patriots success is down to one man, it’s the greatest quarterback of all time, Brady. In reality though, it’s a combination of the two.
Dissenter
Not what’s being debated though is it? You’ve come out the blue to establish your daddy-dissenter hierarchy on yet another day.
“You’re enjoying yourself, aren’t you? I’ll remind you next time you get angry because someone butted into your conversation to swipe you hard.”
No disagreeing of any sort, just blatant opportunism to pop off with yet another judgement. Should get yourself a hobby.
London Gunner – really like Nuno Espirito Santos over at Wolves
Espirito Santos has got them playing with quite a cultured style on (I believe) a pretty small budget
Lucian favre? During his time at Gladbach, Favre revived a fallen giant of football, taking them from certainties for relegation to the pinnacle of world football in the Champions League. Nice On 24 May 2016, Favre was appointed as Nicemanager, replacing Claude Puel. This appointment was widely considered as a coup for Nice by the French media. He brought in only one backroom staff, Adrian Ursea.[8][9] In his first season, Nice finished third and qualified for the Champions League, their best league position in decades. Borussia Dortmun On 22 May 2018, Favre was appointed as manager of Borussia Dortmund, with a contract lasting until 30… Read more »
Come on lads if you are going to be Emery out best come up with some solutions.
Also comes across quite well in media interviews. Plus for the football hipsters out there (are there really any about) he’s got a pretty magnificent beard…
London, That game tends to get me into trouble and whoever I suggest people immediately dismiss. I was hammered over my love for Tuchel, then he was fired. Now look at him? One manager I do find very interesting is Marco Rose over at Salzburg. One of the hottest tacticians in Europe, has climbed the ranks at RB, will be well versed in data and analytics, would know how to deploy all the things we hoped we’d get from Emery. He also dropped an invincible season. We aren’t going to win out with a manager who needs a chequebook. We… Read more »
Don’t mind Nuno but that’s Jorge Mendes’s team. They play good stuff though Neves and Jonny were excellent pick ups and they always play with two wingers and that’s key to a good attack these days I feel
@qna, Not always true. Spending money does not always equate to being successful. Real Madrid is successful now, but for years it was not. La Décima became an obsession for them, because they had not been successful in that competition despite having spent more money than anybody else. When Lyon was successful in France, they were not the team with the biggest budget. They were big, because being the scene, the chairman and DoF had put in place a system where the headcoach could be replaced with limited consequence. Dortmund are not the biggest team in Germany, but they are… Read more »
Red
He’s got a poor league record over the years he’s been in management, before you point to PSG he won the league title only after signing Neymar and M’Bappe for 350 odd million after being bested by Monaco the year before.
Rickety/inept defence, no fluency or recognisable style of play, similarly woeful results vs the top 6, incapable of keeping a clean sheet on the road, no noticeable improvement on AW’s worst ever season.
A better question right now is what has he done in these 9 months to make anyone think that we’re headed in the right direction?
Favre a very good candidate, super experienced and a tactical dictator.
We were also close with Roger Schmidt, another disciple of Rangnick I believe. Ex-engineer.
Hey Words
I have heard good things about him and he has dramatically improved their style in a short period of time. Which shows he some real vision. I also think it helps he brought in a fuck ton of portugese players to incorporate this style.
But really think an exciting brand of football has to be key to this.
We can’t be in business of not delivering performances.
The fans need to be reinvirograted and the Arsenal project has to be seen as an exciting one.
Tuchel is doing such a good job with the media, the fans and the players. He’s giving them something special. As the journo in the earlier article said, the press and fans will forgive him everything because he’s such a good communicator.
Nuno has gravitas.
WE
No, I’m not getting hung up on BATE. I’m making two separate points, only one of which is about BATE. My first point is that while I to have doubts about Emery, some of the criticism being aimed at him here is unreasonable, unfair, and playing loose with the facts.
My second point is that a 1-0 loss to BATE in Belarus in early February is not the disaster certain people would like to paint it as.
I am well aware of the fact that many people have doubts about Emery independent of BATE; I do too.
Pedro
I like Favre as he has taken the long route to success. Working within tight budgets and in radically different set ups.
Favre is certainly an attractive prospect. Has Dortmund punching above their weight this season and consistently had Monchengladbach up thereabouts in CL spots.
Pedro
Given that we needed a manager who could finish top four or win the Europa with a modest squad, and given Emery’s CV, was he really that bad of a hire?
*too
London, he’s taken difficult jobs on as well. Would not be a bad choice.
I’d like us to make a Poch like move for someone, have a bit of mystique and excitement about the hire.
Obvs hard to find that, but who is the next Wenger? Who is getting extra out of players, a style, data?
Bamford
It was a pretty embarrassing result, no point in downplaying that fact.
Weather and other excuses aren’t acceptable for any serious football club.
“The fact that there are 15 other managers presently below Emery in the Premier league tells us, no, we most definitely do not have the worst, and the only one the truth hurts is you.”
Or could it be that our squad is better than those 15 managers have, no?
WengerEagle
Which club did PSG sign M’bappe from ?
One manager I do find very interesting is Marco Rose over at Salzburg. I have heard good things but honestly Salzburg in Austria is actually akin or worse to what Celtic are in Scotland. They’re utterly dominant and don’t look like stopping. On course for 6 in a row something like 10 league titles in 12 years so nothing that incredible about an unbeaten season for me. Some decent coaches knocking around Portugal the last few years might be worth a scout. Maybe Nagelsmann is on in two or three years but Emery isn’t going anywhere for now. And Nagelsmann… Read more »
Pedro, Good article on Tuchel and I read that a few days ago I think. I would have loved Tuchel at the start – what happened? Did we approach him? Did he put his name forward? I didn’t want Emery and I can see the writing on the wall too but mainly because of the Ozil business and the modern spectre of social media adding inflated pressure. Also I think the club themselves were unsure on Emery hence the 2 year deal and I think that was confirmed by the withholding of funds during the winter window. I think Emery’s… Read more »
Bam, really, when you look at the facts… he’s less qualified than Wenger to do that.
He’s a Europa operator. Couldn’t work with big players at PSG. Couldn’t get past a year in Moscow.
Making top 4 would be great news, but I think that’ll hasten his downfall. It’d be a temporary crack filler, just like that 22 game unbeaten run was.
Bamford – there’s no need to dwell over whether Emery was a good or a bad hire at the time he was appointed.
If we agree for the moment that he was the best at the time, and he finishes outside the top4 playing uninspired football, with the crowds at the Emirates becoming disenchanted and attendances beginning to fall, the question becomes, should he be replaced? And, if so, outside “elite” high spending managers, are there any managers out there who can deliver exciting football on a tight budget.
I’d say the answer is yes.
Benny, we had hired Sven.
WE
Really? Chelsea only beat them 1-0 in November. We had chances; we just didn’t finish them. The pitch was shit and it was -2° C. I agree it was a bad result, but it wasn’t 8-2 at Old Trafford or 6-0 at Stamford Bridge.
Red
If anything that weakens your argument, they signed the club that beat them to the title’s best player.
Marko, you have to stop being such a bitch. You take me seriously because you’re here every day. If you don’t, go blog at Untold, they have a great comments section.
Bamford
Why do you keep harping on about the weather? We’re not the only club that has to play matches in freezing conditions.
And you do realise that you’re referencing a Chelsea WIN? What do you mean that they only won 1-0? Big difference there.
Was anyone claiming it was that level of bad?
@UpstateGooner,
Brady may be the best QB in the world, but do you think that he would be as successful in a different team or in the same team but with a different GM?
Without Brady, New England may not have been as successful, but I believe that they would still be successful.
The GM keeps reinventing the tactics and bringing people to apply those tactics.
Anyway even a great manager is nothing without at least one talisman player who can convey his vision on the field of play.
The more i read about favre the more i like. Started at grass routes level. Literally had to hustle his way from the bottom. As a footballer he trained and modified his diet to the latest scientific knowledge when other players were drinking beers and eating chip butties. Specialsies in teams who are great at one on ones and his training models have dramtic positive effects. Managed to tame ballotelli. Was instrumental in Reus and Ter stergens careers. Elite level footballers. Man management, player development, smashing it in underdog teams on restricted budget’s and entertaining football. Not young but still… Read more »
Words
I agree with all of that. I think there are better managers out there, I think there are guys who can do better on the budget we have, and I am totally down with replacing Emery with someone smarter — even if Emery finishes top four.
Marko, sure, I get that. But an unbeaten run and a semi in Europe is pretty epic.
Eh yeah but in context one was expected and the other was a good feat.
London, I was told that when he was with Xhaka, he would stop a training session if a player was a yard out of position and scream at them.
Then Xhaka come to Arsenal and isn’t given an instructions
WE, Bamford would not have excused Wenger for cold hands.
Valentin, who are the top young french managers?
You take me seriously because you’re here every day. If you don’t, go blog at Untold, they have a great comments section.
Woah woah settle down I disagree with you and don’t take you seriously when you say something like Nuno has gravitas and I should go to untold? Why? They don’t like dissenting voices either. How about you realize this is the internet and not everyone is going to agree with you.
WE The difference between a 1-0 win and a 1-0 loss is sometimes two bounces of the ball. After all, we had chances early; we just didn’t take them. And some people were in fact going overboard about what a 1-0 loss in Belarus in February means. And again, I’m not saying it wasn’t a bad result. It was. The question is: how bad of a result was it? Bad enough to think the squad isn’t very good? Yes. Bad enough to have questions about the manager? Yes. Bad enough to think the manager needs to go ASAP? No. I… Read more »
One season and a bit with Valencia and only two seasons at Porto, Rio Ave and now his second season with Wolves and really nothing screams out about him and you can see why I wouldn’t agree with your gravitas statement. 45 though so still time and scope to get better but no no sauce for me
No point naming managers if you’re gonna put one hand behind him by having him play Iwobi, Mustafi and Kolasinac and a lot of these managers being mentioned like high octane players who never stop running, not sure the now beloved Ozil will fit into whatever system they might want to play.
That said, Santo at Wolves or Patrick Viera for me
I’d go with bd s choice.
PATRICK VIERIA /MARTIN KEOWN ( asst)
Unites fans because of legendary playing status
Knows the Arsenal dna
Global big hitter
Played under Wenger/Mancini/ Mourinhio/ Anclelotti.
Has something to prove.
All of us- would give the big man the benefit of the doubt.
“Simple math, genius. It adds up to 121%. How is that fucking possible?”
Try studying up on set theory ….mumu
The lad at Lyon has them playing good football. Even though he was under pressure there recently because of some results
And young players would want to play for PV – young players would run a mile to escape Emery s clipboard nonsense!
Marko, just drop the snark. It’s not additive.
Gasperini at Atlanta too wouldn’t be a bad shout, though not sure Arsenal fans would take to him as he doesn’t quite have special sauce.
Piatek absolutely running riot at Milan by the way. Definitely mugged off Chelsea with the whole Higuain deal
Valentin
“Without Brady, New England may not have been as successful, but I believe that they would still be successful.”
No. Not a chance. One year Brady was out for a season through injury Patriots didn’t even make playoffs. Belichik is a good coach but he is nothing without Brady. Buffalo Bills fan here, by the way, for close to 30 years. So I know a thing or two about American football.
Ivan G does it again
Bati
If anyone was mugged off it was Genoa.
How did they only get 30 million for him?
That 30 for 30 on the Bills is exceptional
Pedro maybe cause it’s the written word it comes across a different way I’m more sarcastic than anything but you have to expect some of that on the internet and especially with some of your stances as of late. But hey if everyone agreed with everything you said wouldn’t it make it boring as fuck around here. I think so. Could you imagine if it became an Emery out blog this early in the game. You’d only get a handful of people on here and no one wants that
I would say Christophe Galtier is doing very well at Lille. He was always showing promises at Saint Etienne, but there was doubt about his ability at the top end. Paddy Vieira is showing sign that with a real support he could be very good. With Nice in a little of a strange situation behind the scene, he may become available this summer or the next. I am ambivalent with Bruno Genesis. I am not sure if he is successful because of the Lyon chairman or because of it. He is capable of very good tactical innovation, but also sometimes… Read more »
Ozil’s importance to Arsenal has fluctuated over the years. His value to the team was most significant during his first season at the club. In 2013/14, Arsenal won 62.5% of the games in which Ozil played and only 45.5% of those he didn’t, the biggest gap in percentages in any of his six seasons at the Emirates. Arsenal fared far better without the German in 2014/15, winning 62.5% of their matches without him. They have only bettered that percentage without Ozil this season (65%). In fact, this is the first campaign since 2015/16 in which the Gunners have won a… Read more »
Piatek is looking like a great bit of business honestly. Won’t be there for long.
I think recent seasons have kind of shown that there’s a lot of good managers out there certainly and some very good ones but there’s genuinely probably only 2 or 3 great managers knocking about these days
Lyon’s gaffer by all accounts from France is holding them back if anything and they’re playing so well in spurts in spite of him. Makes no sense how they’re lagging behind Lille with a much inferior GD with such a better squad of players.
They’ll push Barcelona all the way on Tuesday, fancy them to sneak a win even.
Ozil watch… he’s on the set of a tv show in Turkey. Optics and all that
Pedro
Have you ever considered that the club thinks putting the backroom in place is more important right now hence the hiring of Emery?
You can’t and should not put a rookie manager without a backroom intact.
Bruno Genesio, Not Genesis. Auto-correct fail.
I meant successful because or despite president Aulas and his DoF and special advisers.
I’m with Pedro
I spent years arguing “Wenger Out”
And we end up with this non-entity
Wenger is neither a tsctician or a coach, he relies solely on good players for results.
The results last season show we have not got good players.
Emery needs a couple of transfer windows to replace Wenger’s rejects, who have blighted the club….
Weagle
30 odd was all they were ever gonna get for him plus they sort of need the cash too, they asked for more and Milan called their buff…It’s Italy so these clubs never really haggle over the transfer fees. There’s been talk there’s a gentleman’s agreement with Chelsea that they buy Higuain outrightly so there’s that
Bamford – how about you being a little reasonable? How does that sound?
Hill wood
“”I spent years arguing “Wenger Out”
And we end up with this non-entity””
That is the nub of the problem we are facing!
Well said.
We all thought we were going to get renergised and reinvigorated with the new figurehead and his team BUT somehow Gazidas has found us this wally!
And Gazidas has scarpered weeks after and doesn’t even face the consequences of his actions
Us fans -are left to pick up the pieces.
You could ‘nt actually make it up.!
The problem with Lyon is that president Aulas and his cohorts of advisors sometimes wield an unhealthy influence on the team selection. Officially two coaches resigned or were sacked because they’ve refused to bow down. For example when Fekir was injured, he still wanted to play. The coach didn’t. In the end he played, was poor and got substituted. Aulas said that he had no say in Fekir’s selection but when asked Genesio refused to confirm that. Like I said, I am ambivalent about Bruno Genesio, because I am not sure he has a lot of input. I wonder what… Read more »