Charles Watts spent some time inspecting the faces of the Arsenal exec team. Pen and pad in his hand this is what he saw.
Fahmy shook his head over and over again, Vekatesham slumped in his chair while an ashen-faced Sanllehi soon headed for the exit. This was not the result anyone had been expecting.
The vision that has been set out from the top brass has been clear. Champions League football is a must and winning the Europa League is arguably Arsenal’s best route back into Europe’s elite competition.
I mean, they’re not exactly going to be doing cartwheels and I’m not sure how much we can read into this, but it’s mildly interesting to know that the Emery frustration goes deeper than just a few fans in the ground and on the internet. Can’t remember Ivan Gazidis giving away this much emotion in 10 years.
It’ll be very interesting to see what the club do in the summer. Emery wasn’t given any money in January, no one really knows why, but it’s clear we can’t be broke. Maybe the club wanted to see what Emery was going to do with the squad, after all, he not only promised improvements to the fans in press conferences, he had a legendary PowerPoint presentation that he’ll no doubt be held to.
I would hazard a guess, but I would imagine coaching featured quite high on the short term objectives. Remember how keen he was to invite the press to watch his sessions? The club made quite a fuss about the job title being Head Coach, not Manager.
This is why the people claiming that a lack of identity doesn’t matter don’t understand what they’re saying. If your team stands for nothing, it means there’s no belief system in place. It means the players have no north star. It means you have nothing to fall back on when things slip. It results in confusing bland football that is no doubt a bore to play. Think about it, what is Emery trying to achieve? Fluid possession-based football like City? Heavy metal? Electric counter-attacking? Or just finding Kola on the overlap?
The biggest worry I have is the fans asking for more time and money seem to forget that he moved to a club that was a title-winning operation with some of the most exquisite players in the world playing for it and he tanked the first season. He had to bring in Neymar and Mbappe whilst counting on the simultaneous destruction of Monaco in the transfer market to win the league in his second season. He tanked twice in the Champions League, he couldn’t foster a collective and then he was let go at the end of the season because the players didn’t respect him.
That brings me onto my next topic of conversation, Mesut Ozil.
‘When you start supporting a football club, you don’t support it because of the trophies, or a player, or history, you support it because you found yourself somewhere there; found a place where you belong.’ 🙏🏼 || #DennisBergkamp pic.twitter.com/kKM8kDhm8T
— Mesut Özil (@MesutOzil1088) February 15, 2019
Mesut Ozil making a huge power play, whipping his base into a frenzy of ‘OZIL WE LIVE 4 U, EMRY DIE’, with the above pearler.
Now, it’s clear that I’m not a huge fan of the German. It’s also clear that he doesn’t really have any love for Arsenal unless it’s the love a 22-year-old beauty queen has for her 72-year-old billionaire lover. This is straight up manipulation of the media and it’s caused a right old stink on the internet.
It was a cynical move. It is clearly designed to disrupt Emery’s season that is tanking. It is supposed to be seen by the players who are no doubt wondering why they’re being asked to struggle away without support from the start names.
I thought this comment from Sal neatly summed up the debacle.
Emery came in with a supposed dossier on each player having done the research, knowing full well his highest paid player was Mesut Ozil, his attributes, weakness’s and knowledge he’d have to utilize him in some manner.
That plan didn’t consist of freezing Ozil out of every competition hoping to shift him in the next transfer window, value having plummeted to rock bottom.
We all know Ozil’s limitations we’ve beat them dead on here since 2013, there many. But don’t tell me he would not of added something to the shit show on display in Belarus. Don’t tell me Lacazette wouldn’t of welcomed him into the side, arms open. Emery put Arsenal behind his Ozil agenda.
More bizarre with Ramsay not traveling.
Now have open ware fare on the social between Ozil’s team and Emery.
As funny as it is, thats a sad indictment of his handling of Mesut Ozil, total mismanagement.
Emery is the unpopular kid standing his ground by taking the ball home. It’s an inability to be empathetic. It’s a character flaw in the Emery machine. This piece from GFFN on Thomas Tuchel gets under the skin of the problem and spells out that what we are seeing is not a one-off, it’s part of broader pattern of damaging behaviour.
“There is no success without a real relationship with the players”. Right from the start, he has been making pain-staking efforts to create strong bonds with his players. For example, he went to meet Neymar before the Brazilian left for the World Cup. “That’s the great difference between him and Emery”, surmises Canal + pundit Eric Carrière. “The Spaniard saw players as “X”, like tools he could use to win. It is the opposite for Tuchel. For him players are human beings, with a name, a personality, a sensibility and proper characteristics”.
And to whom you must show affection through a little hug, a little text message or some extra holiday time. “His management relies on benevolence, which doesn’t exclude authority and discipline, just like Rabiot and Mbappé experienced after being late at the pre-Classique speech and therefore sent on the bench at the Vélodrome,” says Carrière. “The strength of this manager is his ability to unite. Today, if a player doesn’t feel the kindness or thinks it is fake, he won’t fight for you. And you can tell that it is not fake with Tuchel. It is way easier to win trophies with such a team… Emery was a good tactician but didn’t have this ability”.
This is football. You are only as good as the talent you have at your disposal. Currently, Arsenal is trying to chase Champions League through the Europa League back door and top 4. We are desperately struggling for creativity because our two outlets are AMN and Kola. Would any manager in the world not at least try and build bridges with one of the most sublime creative talents in the world, even if he is lazy? Would you not try and work out a system that could protect against his weaknesses in some way? Could you not put your pride to one side to make some magic happen?
It’s even crazier that he can’t find a way to utilise Aaron Ramsey. The guy has his flaws, but effort and intensity has never been an issue. He can also score goals, run with the ball, open space and create. Yet we’re leaving him to rot on the bench? Make a mistake with one star player and I might be able to forgive, but to do it with two of them, when they’re both fit, as results and performances tank… well, it’s just negligent.
In allowing these problems to fester Emery has lost control of the media narrative. He’s allowed Mesut Ozil to play the victim with the fans, and no doubt his treatment in the face of a creative crisis will have the players asking questions. The worst part of all of this is the argument is affecting our ability to compete. We’ve struggled against Cardiff, Huddersfield and lost to BATE. We haven’t delivered a performance since Spurs in December. Things are in decline.
Emery needs a rethink. He needs to leave his ego at the Colney gates. He needs to show leadership.
See you in the comments.
“Arteta would have implemented an electric style.”
No proof of that what so ever. He has zero management experience.
I also wonder if had Arteta been appointed how tolerant Pedro would be of posters who were effectively celebrating Arsenal losing matches so he’d get the sack?
Pedro
Right, except that you have no idea whether Arteta would have succeeded. That you think he would have doesn’t mean he would have. So you can’t actually compare him to those managers /success stories. You are assuming what Arteta still needs to prove.
Marko , old bean
Rewind your mind back to May…
Who were your 5 personal choices for The Arsenal Gig, please?
Marko Again I am no fan of Ozil , in fact I was one of the early critics of the guy here on Le Grove but let’s be honest given our attacking options right now, he walks in.to our starting 11 at least in home games. People laud Iwobi’s effort a lot but even an Ozil in poor form is better than him. He is better at possession and in setting the tempo of a game than Ramsey. Again he has bucket loads of weaknesses as well and you have pointed that out in your last post but smart management… Read more »
Sol Campbell has more management experience than Arteta should he have been given the job?
Every pundit and ex-player is commenting on how Ozil is continually being left out and you’re talking about his form?
You don’t think that’s important? Pundits can say what they like that’s their job it doesn’t make them right. Again he’s declining the last two seasons he’s got 2 assists and playing poorly this season and he fakes injuries and you’re response to this obvious problem is…to continue to play him… it’s quite brilliant really. Hey Lichtsteiner is absolutely doing fuck all to help out the team and is playing poorly why not keep playing him.
Pedro. Pep actually did prove himself with Barca’s B team. The support for him was overwhelming and came from within their system. They have an incredible system for players and coaches alike. It’s not at all surprising that Barca gave a chance to Pep, knowing exactly what he was going to get and that he had already managed the teams star players when they were in the B team. Zidane was a once in a generation player. His appointment was political and only possible because of his status. Arteta, Viera, Neville, Gerard, Henry are all very different cases. Not even… Read more »
Marko
You just totally ignored the point I made following your question. If you want to debate something how about you stop being a dishonest prick whilst doing so?
Now address what I said:
“He’s getting a game a month and just who the fuck is lighting it up ahead of him?“
Ozil is playing shit, but he’s getting a game a month and I’d like to know who exactly is justifying their starts ahead of Ozil and on what merit?
Emery can play Ozil and yet sell him in the summer, that way it suits all the parties concerned.
I don’t see where your criticism lies then because he has done that. He’s played 17 times this season he probably would have played more had he played better and or not faked illness or injury. So again what is the issue with what Emery is doing? He only missed the Bate game because he called in sick (yet again) for the Huddersfield game.
Marko
It really makes me laugh when some of what people post on here really is a load of shite.
Gary Neville = good pundit one of the best out of the current crop.
Thierry Henry = decent pundit could always listen to him unlike some of the fucking idiots out there.
How did they both get on in their first attemtpts in management again?
qna
Spot on mate!
So says Champagne Charlie the poster who’s boasting about being ALWAYS objective because his job depends on it.
Part of objectivity is knowing that you have biases so you can be extra careful.
I repeat no one is ALWAYS objective.
Post on your refrigerator mate.
Never say never…be careful about absolutes.
Who’s the blog histrionic now?
You just totally ignored the point I made following your question. If you want to debate something how about you stop being a dishonest prick whilst doing so? How am I being dishonest we’re talking about the treatment of Ozil and what Emery could be doing differently and you’re changing the conversation. Who gives a shit that Iwobi is starting ahead of him if Ozil himself is playing poorly and contributing little all season long. I must say though you’re a very odd fan Charlie truly. Making a case for the manager to play a player who’s in decline playing… Read more »
Marc
“Sol Campbell has more management experience than Arteta should he have been given the job?”
Sol Campbell didn’t spend two seasons breathing in the fumes from Pep’s arse.
Dissenter
Boasting about always being objective? I answered Marko’s claim that I wasn’t being objective. Again, I don’t need the lecture in semantics either, it’s you that’s chosen to take what’s said literal to the core.
Seriously, follow a thread and stop the incessant whinging about me, Pierre, Mavrapanos, Lacazette etc. Switch it up a bit and talk about football with someone.
It seems this is all stemming from him not being played against Bate. Can I just remind people that he was dropped because he called in sick (yet again) for the previous game. What precedent do you set if you overlook that sort of behavior and pick a player who plays only when he wants. Can’t be trusted to perform away from home either
I’m not Ozil’s biggest fan but such is my dissatisfaction and outright hostility to a head coach that has been at the club for 5 minutes that I’m quite willing to use the flaky Ozil stick to beat Emery with.
lol seen quite a few of these.
Charlie George
“Emery is learning on the job- and its costing us big time….’
..and yet you’re throwing Arteta’s name into the mix
“Sol Campbell didn’t spend two seasons breathing in the fumes from Pep’s arse“
This guy is giving tips on objectivity. Say no more.
Dissenter
I think you need to differentiate between learning about the club on the job and learning how to do the job on the job!
Charlie C
Honestly you over-reached yourself. Who talks about being always objective?
That’s dangerous and indicative of one who does not know what he does not know.
It was hard to just scroll past that comment because you followed it up with a swipe any Marko.
Ishola that’s it exactly. Plant their flag with Ozil for 5 mins if it means they can have a go at the manager. It doesn’t matter who the manager is they wouldn’t accept the situation that’s occurring with Ozil. There isn’t a serious manager in world football who’d continue to pick a poor performing 30 year old who calls in sick whenever he feels like it.
Arteta would implement electric football lol Pedro.
Who will perform this electric football u speak of? xhaka ramsey mustafi MMN Iwobi? Or wc players we will buy for 50M?
Dissenter
He would have learned on the job in an exciting way, though.
CC
Picking up Dissenter’s comment about Arteta and Pep shows just how you are lacking in objectivity.
Outside of being assistant to Pep precisely what qualifications or credentials does Arteta have to be Arsenal manager?
Champagne Charlie has admitted that he was wrong about Wenger being the right man for Arsenal sine 2010 in a previous thread.
None of what he has to say about Arsenal or its Manager should be taken seriously.
Objective AKB yeah buddy
Arsenal should be playing purring stylish football by now and be comfortably in the CL places.
I mean Wenger gave the incoming head coach such good foundations to build on.
And these foundations of course had at the hub our magic man Mesut Ozil pulling the strings.
I’m as wrong as the next person here.
I’m not always objective.
I have never been a professional football scout, coach or administrator.
That’s the difference, got it.
Marko 17 games , yes but he has barely played any football in last two months. ‘Way I see it this blog has become a place full of hypocrites truly. The amount of times over the years Wenger was criticized for continuing to play favourites even though they were playing poorly and contributing little to the club and now people want the manager to play a player who’s playing poorly and who’s contributing little. ‘ Earlier we had the likes of Santi, Rosicky in our team which obviated the need to play Ozil consistently. Now we have the likes of… Read more »
Dissenter
Always being objective isn’t related to being right. You’re picking up on semantics and doing your usual routine of micro-analysing words of a blog to produce some enlightened stance.
I’m objective, I endeavour to be all the time, and I don’t need someone like you giving tips and tricks on the matter. Simple as that.
Oh look, the “AKB” tagging crowd are here, it’s a party.
17 games , yes but he has barely played any football in last two months. True. And why is that? He’s been injured? Sick? It’s not like he’s been sitting on the bench all that time. Again poor player contributing little and calls in sick and he should be playing? The hypocrite comment wasn’t necessarily directed at you by the way. Though if at ever in the past number of years for example you criticized Wenger for continuing to play someone like Xhaka even though he was playing poorly then you are being a hypocrite for suggesting Emery do the… Read more »
Charlie by and large you are not objective. The fact that you think you are is evidence that you are not
PedroFebruary 16, 2019 16:33:38
Marko, as a manager, sometimes you just have to suck it up and make things work. The players are the most important asset at the club.
Plenty of incidents over the years where managers have had to make a statement, but then forgive. Drogba when he went to the dentist in Italy, only to be caught out by Jose. Wenger has his back and forths with Thierry. Ferguson and Cantona.
PEDRO.
The same Alex Ferguson that binned Beckham , Keane and Stam as soon as they fucked him about!
Anyone who repeatedly tells people how objective they are = isn’t.
It’s like someone who has to keep telling you how much money they have – people with real money don’t need to boast about it.
wow wow wow……. At this moment…. I dare to say @pedro, can you just give this blog to your child, no matter the age, because I believe he will deliver a more better write-up than this shit you have been serving us for some months now…. Is Emery the first coach to have an issue with a player..??? hell no. even pep kept big yaya toure on the bench for months before selling him… and the almighty yaya toure will forever be a bigger club legend than ozil will ever be at any of the club he will ever play… Read more »
For those who say Ozil is past it… May I remind the good people out there. He is 3 years younger than David Silva. Their premier records are identical and probably favour Ozil- bearing in mind- the City player has better forwards around him, etc. If Arteta was in charge- I think we would have seen more Silva like performances from the similarly talented Ozil. Also, If Arteta was in charge – Ramsey would be rampaging forward – adding to his 60 plus Arsenal goals. We missed a huge opportunity with Arteta. (As a consequence- 2 of our better players… Read more »
If it weren’t for the fact that the likes of Pierre etc would find an excuse to blame everyone but the player I’d actually start Ozil in all of our remaining matches. It’d sort several issues for anyone who is more interested in what’s right for Arsenal rather than a self imposed agenda including: Ozil would either die from exhaustion or decide that it’s time to move on for an easier life. Demonstrate that he just isn’t operating at the level he should be. Him being in the team has not only has very little positive impact but by having… Read more »
CG
I asked the following question to CC earlier and surprisingly he ignored it. Let’s see is you do the same?
Outside of being assistant to Pep precisely what qualifications or credentials does Arteta have to be Arsenal manager?
Steve Gooner
“””The same Alex Ferguson that binned Beckham , Keane and Stam as soon as they fucked him about!””:
He sold them for 40million pounds???
He won trophies on the back of them.
He should sell Ozil – by all means.
Just don’t ostracize him.
A top manger is paid to protect the value of our Arsenal assets( Ramsey and Ozil) not give them away.
Might as well have a Spurs fan in charge.
(He could not do any worse.)
Anyone who supports Emery for that alone – needs their heads examined.
‘Though if at ever in the past number of years for example you criticized Wenger for continuing to play someone like Xhaka even though he was playing poorly then you are being a hypocrite for suggesting Emery do the same with Ozil.’ Xhaka was absolutely hopeless under Wenger, we had players who could do better than him at DM position. Ozil the worst option among our attacking options right now ? No. Heck I don’t even like making a case for Ozil as I don’t rate him but as I said he is miles better than Iwobi who is starting… Read more »
Marc
See my post earlier.
Same argument
OGS @Man Utd
Darren Moore@ WBA
ZIDANE @ real Madrid
Marc
I’m not telling people over and over mate, I responded to Marko saying I need to be objective…ONCE. Then Dissenter decided to hop aboard and give a lecture on objectivity like this was an online college course.
Your Arteta question misses the point entirely. I’m not the one saying Arteta is this or that, that was Dissenter with his juvenile comment about breathing the fumes of Peps arse. Does that sound like objective? Or does that sound like someone being disparaging because of a POV they hold on the subject?
Wenger, we had players who could do better than him at DM position.
Huh? Elneny? Wilshere or Coquelin? I’m not sure but there’s more examples over the years. The point remains a player who’s playing poorly and who fakes injuries gets dropped it’s understandable. I feel like the narrative is honestly being changed because he would have played against Bate if he didn’t call in sick against Huddersfield
I responded to Marko saying I need to be objective…ONCE. ….NOT TRUE.
That’s not what you said.
You stated that “I’m always objective, it’s a big part of my job you condescending twat.”
Don’t start twisting this another way because the trail is still rather fresh.
You have a reputation here for saying something dim and squirming away inartfully.
Pedro are you claiming Emery kicked Ramsey out ? he publicly stated that Ramsey was fundemntal to his plan, and played him behind the striker from the start of the season..He got injured and then played him in almost every game ,either as starter or a sub. Ramsey had a whole year to sign the thing and he dithered and dithered trying to milk more than he deserves ..basically he held the club to ransom like the weasel did before him.. For once the club did the right thing and told him to fuck off.. Emery definatley made a mistake… Read more »
Charlie George
You will get you dream come true
Ozil will be played henceforth and he will lead us to Europa league glory.
Dissenter
I’m always objective. That’s a statement I’m not hiding from, I don’t much care how you want to literally interpret such a thing and then attempt to “teach” me on the basic principles of objectivity. For the umpteenth time, I don’t need any lessons from you on this, much less anything.
You can shelve your “reputation” quips as you try to establish authority in a discussion. You’re a pedantic twat always in search of a high ground. Nothing more to say to you on the matter.
Dissenter
I think – you should change your name/ moniker. (It’s too negative.)
Not healthy to always look at things – in a
‘half empty ‘way !
Who is your all time favourite player?
( or are you still waiting for one- to satisfy your exalted standards?)
it’s only idiots who would support ostracising Ozil when those used in his stead are not doing any better. you can keep massaging your ego with repetitive comments on ozil’s weaknesses but the point knowledge able people are making is that there is no gain sidelining ozil when your team isn’t creating much attacking wise. I’m of the belief ozil should be shown the way out next summer even if it’s at a financial loss but he should be played since he can’t do any worse than the shits on display day in day out. top 4 is still achievable… Read more »
Whatever Charlies
You’re always right anyway
Chuckle chuckle chuckle
Arsenal Farce Club
Thank you Emery
Thank you Raul
Fuck you Kronke
Didn’t Ozil play in that atrocious home win against Cardiff some weeks back where he was barged off the ball continuously and contributed nothing at all or are we talking about another player
Newport County did themselves proud against City
Well run club
What fucking lies
Fuck you Gazishit
Batistuta
You must be talking about another player because he had a very tidy game considering the amount of playing time that emery allows him.
Anyone who understands the game would know how difficult it is to play at your full potential without regular playing time.
But of course , someone with your exceptional football knowledge would understand that ..
Marc
“Him being in the team has not only has very little positive impact but by having to carry a lazy player it actually hurts results and has a detrimental effect on the players who have to cover for him.”
Unbeaten since August with Ozil starting.
7 defeats in2 months without Ozil starting
More goals conceded per game without Ozil .
If anything , looking at those figures, it has a detrimental effect on the players when he isn’t playing.
Guendowzi, Xhaka, mustafi, kola, iwobi, suarez, kos, mkhi, leno, cech
how have they been any better than Ozil to feature almost every match?
YOOOO,
Let me know if you like nested comments.
Oooh Fancy
2 thumbs up
Also need auto refresher
What the fuck is this? Terrible. Return to the old format, please.
I’m going to get the website fixed up nice.
Can’t keep talking about the future and not upgrade the website in 10 years.
Shameful lack of innovation on my part.
Pedro
The problem with this format is that we will have to scroll up and down to see who replied what and where. Can became messy. Certainly on a mobile phone.
Get the arteta version. Version emery is pretty meh.
Pedro
I like the nested formatting
Good job
Something that has not been said re Ozil. All good if we play him, let’s say for the next 5-6 games to enable him to show his worth, or select him for the easy games. But what if he then decides to sulk on the pitch to try and get rid of UE. What next?
The best innovations would be:
1. better internal search system (ability to find and navigate to previous posts and comments)
2. ability to click on a poster’s name and go directly to an index of their previous comments
3. ability to click on a poster’s name and see a basic profile, e.g., country of birth, country of residence, year of birth, favorite goal, favorite player
This reply button with embedded comments is terrible. Terrible.
Dissenter
(You like something.)
Well done you.. see you can do it.
We will worry about when it happens.
Lets see how this new format pans out. Interesting pizzaz you’ve decided to whip up here.
Tee “who would support ostracising Ozil when those used in his stead are not doing any better.you can keep massaging your ego with repetitive comments on ozil’s weaknesses but the point knowledge able people are making is that there is no gain sidelining ozil when your team isn’t creating much attacking wise.” They are of the opinion that if they repeat their bullshit enough times that others will believe it’s true.. What they can’t get into their heads is , if Arsenal we’re playing well and getting results then Emery would be justified in his treatment of Ozil but the… Read more »
Dissenter
“I like the nested formatting.”
I don’t. I think it looks awful, not to mention it messes up the way in which discussions flow here. No way I’m using it.
I still think that our major problem is the owner. He doesn’t care about our team. I am sure that if the owner wants to help the team, there is always ways. Imagine that if we can add a few good players to the team, Ozil will be no issue. Our fan base is too emotional and divided. The only way we could force the owner to act is to have an united fan base. I posted one time that the Pool’s fans were so united that they could force the owner to cancel the increase in ticket price. The… Read more »
remember it’s FREE
Only you could come up with such ideas. Is it so that you can bring up previous comments from someone else later on?
And for the last option who gives a fuck. Or is it your way of wanting to track everyone?
Legeb10
“that has not been said re Ozil. All good if we play him, let’s say for the next 5-6 games to enable him to show his worth, or select him for the easy games. But what if he then decides to sulk on the pitch to try and get rid of UE. What next?”
Another stupid comment …Emery is digging his own grave , he doesn’t need help from anyone and Ozil is intelligent enough to know that .
Pedro see if you can do it in such a way where it might copy the posters name and time of comment that you’re replying to but still at the bottom like a normal comment. This new way has treads left right and centre
ability to click on a poster’s name and see a basic profile, e.g., country of birth, country of residence, year of birth, favorite goal, favorite player
Fuck that
Why stupid? It’s a fair comment. Or does this make it difficult for you to answer?
and finger prints
lol
Pedro
This format is impossible on a mobile phone. One will be spending their time scrolling up and down to keep track if whst is being said.
As Bamford said: this will lose the flow of a conversation real quick in no time.
The bested formatting works better when there’s a reply icon
*nested formatting works better with a reply icon to follow-up on comments
LegendaryDB10
It’s not a dating site mate.
We don’t need to put up dick sizes to argue a point.
Pierre
“Emery is digging his own grave.”
Whether Emery continues as manager will be down to what Sanllehi and Kroenke think, and what they think will be driven by where we finish in the league, where we finish in the Europa, and how we are playing at the end of the season. That a couple of supporters here or there aren’t big fans of the guy will be totally irrelevant.
TheLegendaryDB10
If Ozil plays next week and I genuinely hope he does, if he “decides to sulk on the pitch to try and get rid of UE” he should be crucified by the Emirates crowd.
If he shows any negative body language, in any form, I’d take him off straight away. Christ, we were criticising Ozil years before Emery arrived and we’ll carry on criticising him as long as he continues playing for AFC.
That’s the nature of the beast.
Dissenter
Lolz …. we do not need to that far. Have to say you made me chuckle on that one.
Pedro
If you want a nested format, check out how reddit does it. It’s one continuous page with sub sections where people can answer to someone’s comment.
The one problem you will have is that comes the end of the page, one will not necessarily be wanting to go back a page to check if someone has replied to their comment.
DB10 Exactly. The fact that you would have to scroll both up and down — rather than just down — to follow different discussions makes this nested reply system dumb. I am supposed to scroll back up the page to see if other people have commented on previous comments? No, that’s dumb. All subsequent comments should appear below, as they always have. That’s what makes the system here simple and genius. It’s funny, too, because I’ve often wanted to comment that one of the things that makes Le Grove so great is the simplicity of the comment system. Other sites… Read more »
DB10
No, the Reddit format would be terrible as well.
Stick with the original, Pedro; it’s simple and brilliant.
Graham “”If he shows any negative body language, in any form, I’d take him off straight away. “” Does that apply just to Ozil or all the players? (The glove wearing Iwobi or the talented but slightly over histrionical Gendusi too?) How about the coach saying to Ozil – play further up the field- don’t worry to track back – we are playing Bate- they are garbage. ‘Create the goals we need …. Get us through to the next round.’ How about some unseen rare positive management from Emery as opposed to his negative dogmatic , convoluted ways ? Just… Read more »
Ozil is an embarrassment to the game.
Thank fuck the era of indulging players is over.
Graham
“”he should be crucified by the Emirates crowd.””
What a vindictive and bitter comment to make.
Bamford
I’ll agree with you on that. Simplicity is man’s best friend. Start over complicating things and it will end up being messy.
I can’t believe that some fans are siding with Ozil.
Unsurprisingly, it seems to be those same fans that stood by cheering the lads on for all those years.
That’s right, those that accepted steady regression( sorry CC, I mean “playing in neutral”) for nearly ten years.
Nine months gone, only one point off 4th and they want to start a mutiny.
All because it doesn’t look nice.
Amazing!
Not sure why the need to include me, another that can’t do football chat without trying to stoke something on here?
Explain how Ozil has/is any worse than what shit has been served up by Iwobi, Mkhi, Suarez etc since Christmas?
I’ll wait for that seeing as nobody piling it on the German has come up with anything on that topic. Just a bunch of bitter guys wanting to marginalise a guy further then moan it’s his own fault. Weird bunch
Unsurprisingly, it seems to be those same fans that stood by cheering the lads on for all those years.
Purely coincidental I’m sure
Pedro
Yea this system isn’t mobile-friendly as far as keeping abreast of comments. Too much up and down in hope than anything.
Maybe different if the embedded convos could expand/minimise with a sort of signal that another comment has been added. But that sounds a bit bloated even saying it.
Oh no… Pedro is quoting Sal, now . we are truly doomed…. It’s much worse then I thought.
Plus you know it’s bad when Lego- hair from City is being bandied about. I suppose now its only a matter of time before the Mighty Gambon is given a guest blog appearance, again. Dark times, ahead. I want my Le-grove back, Pedro.. now your trying out this new thread thing.. Cats playing with dogs..
End of times. I tell you.