’TIME and MONEY’ pleas lose steam after BATE nightmare

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Well, well, well.

It’s becoming increasingly difficult to find a line of defence when it comes to the rapid decline of the Unai Emery maiden voyage. Last night’s loss to BATE is a tough result to compute for many reasons, but before we jump into the details, let’s be real here… we will beat them in the return leg. It’ll be a destruction.

I’m just going to bullet out some concerns that the game threw out.

  • Chelsea is in freefall, United were totally outclassed by PSG and have a nasty run of games that will leave them fatigued and sad. We have just clawed our way back into top 4 contention. It’s incredibly important that Arsenal remain fresh until the end of the season. Emery just tanked away from home against a shite team and now he’ll have to rescue the game with a hard return at The Emirates when he should be resting players.
  • BATE is an out of season pub team. Their last game was December 13th vs PAOK. How can there be any excusing a loss like this with a first team that is in PEAK fitness mode? We’d be furious if the kids tanked that game. Alex fucking Hleb played. This is what he had to say on the game prior:

‘Arsenal are at the peak of readiness – for them this is a huge plus,’ Hleb told Pressball, a leading sports newspaper in Belarus.

‘It will be hard for us, and very much so. But we will try to squeeze the maximum out of the physical form that we have gained.

‘We are not yet ready (to play at) 100 per cent, but the coaching staff decided not to force anything – realising that the guys had to rest after a hard season. And now we are working – in general, everything is according to plan.’

  • A lot of fans are blaming the TERRIBLE PLAYERS EMERY INHERITED from dear old Arsene Wenger. That excuse took a sharp slice to the jugular last night because Wenger put 10 goals past them, winning 6-0 and 4-2. In the 2017 6-0 game, do you know who scored? Debuchy, Elneny, Giroud, Theo Walcott, Giroud and Jack Wilshere. Emery added £70m worth of talent and still took an L away from home. To repeat: Wenger, with a squad that had given up on breathing, still managed to turn over a pub team twice.
    • Also worth remembering at the start of the season, the people celebrating the WINNERTIVITY Emery had brought to a limp squad of Wenger babies (me), are now saying nothing can be done with Wenger’s limp lizards (not me). Are we really blaming Wenger for an away loss to Bate Borisov in mid-February?
  • The manager didn’t take Mesut or Ramsey away (the Welshman damaged a knee carpet sliding after that deal), leaving our creative outlets to be our fullbacks again. This isn’t bearing fruit. Why does Emery persist? Why not use the players who can help? Mend those collapsed bridges, because we are literally throwing away any chance of success this season by leaning on failing strategies that the players seem to have given up on. This was BATE away from home. Emery can’t even be bothered to humiliate Ozil in the hope that maybe he’ll drop a performance worthy of a Premier League start (or, dare I say it, a performance that might invite a bid this summer).
    • When the players lose faith, it cannot easily be rectified with additions. You can’t replace an entire squad, gossip memory is a thing. That’s why it’s so important for Emery to turn this around. The cracks need to be filled this season with good coaching, adding a layer of class to proceedings in the summer. You can’t prop up a toxic squad with more bodies. That’s not how it works. If Emery doesn’t have the player believing by the end of the season, he’s done by December.
  • Additionally, does anyone think the effort output of anyone in the side is greatly outshining what Mesut would bring? Is Mikhi really putting in a shift? Iwobi? Is it not time to make Mesut and Ramsey work for their money. I’d prefer lazy and class, versus meh levels of effort and meh levels of ability. We had 3 shots on target today. In the second half, we didn’t hit the target until the 92nd minute. That is shite. We need to create. A lazy creator feeding outrageously clinical strikers sounds a better plan than average creators feeding nobody.
  • We are in February and the same predictable approach of using our fullbacks to create cutbacks is being used. We have no interest in working through the middle. We are so dull to watch. If you are predictable, you are easy to plan against. This used to happen under Wenger.
  • The players can’t motivate themselves for the small games. That tells you a lot about how interested they are in the manager and his ideas. Motivation should not be an issue with top level footballers. It certainly shouldn’t be an issue in a new managers first season.
    • Emery stands on the sidelines like he’s just found out The Daily Mail has accessed his ephemeral SnapChats from 2015. Zero sauce. Total panic. You might think that’s a minor observation, but come on, who isn’t going to be affected by the weak body language?
  • If Emery is such a demon with the video analysis, why didn’t he realise the pitch would look like a WWI trench warfare simulation rehearsal had taken place on it? Playing it along the ground was never going to work. As someone pointed out, Chelsea complained about the pitch. We had no plan to deal with it.
  • Suarez. Can someone hit me up with the ‘why’ here? Light-weight, weak passing, can’t even take a corner. Why did we bother with him if he wasn’t ready to hit the ground running?
  • Finally, a lot of folk gossiping that the lack of Emery funds were down to the board worrying he wouldn’t make it past this season. Does Raul see Emery as an Ivan signing? Does he identify the folly in giving a £100m to a man who needed £300m to rectify PSG taking a spanking from Monaco in his first season? Doubtful. But come on, it’s not unreasonable to be logical about Raul and his thoughts, is it? If you’re a real football man, and you watch the game with clear eyes, do you truly believe Emery is any good? Of course not. Zero vision or style in 9 months is alarm bells for real football people. Telling the world you’d be the protagonists whilst fixing the defence needed tangible results, and they haven’t come. Why waste a summer on someone who can’t craft a style or vision with a squad that costs £220m a season is a joke, especially when you can see what Bielsa did with Leeds (a 7th place team in a lower division that had never played expansive technical football).

Before you go, GFFN has a supportive article on Emery you should read here.

“There is no success without a real relationship with the players”. Right from the start, he has been making pain-staking efforts to create strong bonds with his players. For example, he went to meet Neymar before the Brazilian left for the World Cup. “That’s the great difference between him and Emery”, surmises Canal + pundit Eric Carrière. “The Spaniard saw players as “X”, like tools he could use to win. It is the opposite for Tuchel. For him players are human beings, with a name, a personality, a sensibility and proper characteristics”.

And to whom you must show affection through a little hug, a little text message or some extra holiday time. “His management relies on benevolence, which doesn’t exclude authority and discipline, just like Rabiot and Mbappé experienced after being late at the pre-Classique speech and therefore sent on the bench at the Vélodrome,” says Carrière. “The strength of this manager is his ability to unite. Today, if a player doesn’t feel the kindness or thinks it is fake, he won’t fight for you. And you can tell that it is not fake with Tuchel. It is way easier to win trophies with such a team… Emery was a good tactician but didn’t have this ability”.

My narrative on Emery is fueled by good intel, not gut feel. Watch this space, Le Grove will lead the way on this one, I can assure you. He’s the Spanish David Moyes, or hopefully, the 1996 Bruce Rioch. Either way, he’s not leading us to the promised land. Be sure of that my friends. x

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DM

Morning

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Peter

tr4phy

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Tr4phy

Boomslang

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Peter

well done DM. just 3 seconds faster

DM

Missed the game last night.. turns out I was much better off doing a tour of the maternity ward where my wife will shortly be having our baby (all being well!)

Rick

In other words, it’s tools down from the players.

Thank you and goodnight

@DM

Congratulations mate. Good luck with the nipper x

Mr Serge

I agree with Pedro I did not want to but I do I have watched s lot of games at home and it’s bland directionless stuff

DM

TY&G

Thank you buddy!

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Charlie…
From last thread..

True but then you fall into the Chelsea camp when players control the club which is wrong….

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Pedro

Et tu Brutus…..

You must be very happy….

Shame on you.

SHoaib

all the criticism of wenger apart , I kept watching arsenal games just in the hope of that beautiful magical football that filled your heart with ultimate joy ,, I understand its emery’s first season and everything , but the way we are playing football right now ,, i had a marriage ceremony to attend and when i came back i almost forgot arsenal was playing ,, because thats how our performances are turning out to be even when we are winning recently ,, “forgetful” Emery needs to stop over complicating things , if he thinks this squad isnt good… Read more »

Receding Hairline

True but then you fall into the Chelsea camp when players control the club which is wrong….

VERY VERY WRONG

Especially not this players. It’s all well and good pointing the PSG scenario, but he had little problem motivating his other teams. yes he may not be cut out for the elite teams but we are not elite.

I repeat we must not be dragged into a managerial merry go round that in any way keeps most of this players at this club beyond this summer.

That’s my take on all this.

Danny

The saddest thing about watching the match last night was the realization that this is our level. The Europa League is a joke, an awful competition but we are so far from the level of the Champions League quarter final teams that it will take years to get back there. The last time we reached that level was the 2009-10 season.

Valentin

Well said Pedro.
I remember when I expressed doubt about Emery quality, some posters did not want to hear about it. It pains me for arsenal to be proven right.

With noises coming from Arsenal, that management are far from impressed with Suarez attitude. Emery days may be numbered.

Receding Hairline

Son is set to sign a new deal worth 150k a week.

150K

Leftsidesanch

I don’t hold much hope for the Europa League. Look at who we field at the back and look who we have in between the sticks. It has clangers written all over it. If BATE was able to take advantage what do you think happens when we come up against a decent side?

Graham62

The problem is this goes far deeper than what what we are witnessing on the field of play. We all know that.

Next week’s return at “fortress Emirates” will not be as straightforward as some may think.

Atmosphere will be affected by all those munchkins turning up late or not even bothering, whilst half of Belarus will turn up and will be smoking us out.

No Lacazette. Pressure on Aubameyang to deliver.

I know, it’s only bloody BATE!!

Paulinho

Would really love to know what a manager is supposed to something intelligible and purposeful with absolute crap like Maitland-Niles and Iwobi. When Welbeck was fit he could at least rotate and use Iwobi in some sort of rotation system, and it worked, but he’s got no choice to keep playing him. Suarez was obviously a Raul special. Been left to Guendouzi to try and make things happen but he is a progressive number six trying to play like an eight, and he is just not capable. Of Emery is going to look disconsolate. Guardiola would be drained of all… Read more »

Guernsey Gun

Was a real wake up call for me last night, dire performance from our first team against a terrible side. It seems premature to be calling Emery out at this stage but I am starting to think he wont last long. I went back to the Emirates for the first time in years in December (Huddersfield 1-0) that was dire as well, its worrying how far we are off the top teams.

Un na naai

Spot on Pedro The man is on borrowed time We all saw it and called it months ago. Well. Those of us who understand the game did. From the moment he lost Holdimg it all went pear shaped. He’s not the man for arsenal. Not now. Not ever On a side note Has anyone seen Alita Battle Angel??? Go and watch it. Fucking quality and the perfect antidote to poxy sjw Hollywood and their politics or crass marketing but lack of actual product. This film is a euphemism for arsenal and what we need to be. A unique and ambitious… Read more »

Gbat

That squad last night should be able to beat BATE no matter what tactics are chosen. It’s up to the players to perform on the pitch. The players were awful. It was the kind of performance we’ve seen a lot of over the last few years.

David Smith

If Emery doesn’t negotiate this round, really cannot see him surviving.
The board may not be the most ambitious, but will require tangible evidence of a very decent tilt at Champions league football next year.
Looks like Emery could be losing the dressing room.
A shame , he does have some qualities to negate wengers failings, but sounds like he may have indulged in a little BS in his job interview

Crusaderrabbit

I had really hoped that this season would be the start of a repairing of my relationship with Arsenal. Its less about results but more about mending some of the hugely painful flaws we’ve had to witness with Wenger over the years. A few results aside (Chelsea, Spurs) very little progress has been made on this front, and for that Emery is failing to date. There were some very clear objectives for this season but the key one had to be about establishing a more effective (and appealing) way of playing and removing some of the Wengerball nightmare. This has… Read more »

Un na naai

RH

Time to give up the ghost mate. This is arsenal now under emery. Boring toothless and shit

At least with Wenger we had some good times. Some flair. Some excitement along with the bitter disappointments. Emery Is just bland. He looks bland, he thinks bland, his team is a reflection on him

Graham62

Does this go down to the simple fact that Emery is just not the right fit. Charlie boy could be right.

His communication, despite his lack of English, seems to getting more inaudible. He comes across as being too intense and the more I look at him I’m left wandering how the players must be feeling dealing with him 24/7.

Fed up and drained comes to mind?

Doom & gloom

We’re doomed I tell ya,doomed!but we will spamk bate nextvwk.no sweat.but of course it could have been a night off & a chance for 2nd string.Thats the disappointment.by the way what does Suarez actually do? What does he bring to the party’s?mystified? Seems like a nothing player.t.g wasn’t permanent!xhaka ….words fail me.iwobi headless chicken interspersed with moments of skill.son of Gervinho.minus the forehead.

Words on a Blog

It does increasingly feel like quite a few of the players in the squad have lost faith in the manager, or failing that, are simply getting more and more confused by his tactical instructions…..
….in the first half the season it wasn’t always very pretty, but there was a lot more speed and intensity to the play

Charlie George

Well said PedRo Great post. “””My narrative on Emery is fueled by good intel, not gut feel””” We mine is neither. I just see the decisions he makes( Ramsey/Ozil) The stats ( only Fulham and Bournemouth have conceded more away goals) The football we play. The signings he intends to make ( Suarez) You call him the Spanish David Moyes ( I did initially name him this) I am beginning to think- it’s actually being harsh on Moyes. He is clueless. We have been duped. He has to go. If we want to go pragmatic and Spanish- Might as well… Read more »

Gbat

We haven’t played consistently exciting football for a few seasons. And we sold the last of our exciting players last season in Sanchez.

Graham62

As a matter of interest, who were all the other candidates for the post.

Allegri/Arteta/ PV4, ok, got that.

Who else?

Charlie George

I’ll be amazed if they don’t install Benitez sooner rather than later.

Missed the boat with Arteta/Vieira .

Jamie

Allegri was never a candidate. He manages a club who recruited Ronaldo.

Too many Arsenal supporters think the draw of London and our lovely stadium is of interest to top drawer professionals (players and management). It’s not. A dose or reality is needed. We’re a Europa League-standard club (not finalists, obv).

Dream10

Graham62

Believe we were interested in the Bundesliga managers such as Nagelsmann and Leipzig duo of Hasenhuttl and Rangnick. Not sure which one was interviewed

Dr Emil schaffhausen

I can’t believe how many posters on this site seem quite happy to absolve Kroenke of any blame for the state of this football club , quite astounding ! As I understand it he owns and runs this club , we’ve sacked Wenger and gazidiz has slithered away, so we then appointed Raul and emery , can someone please educate me on who employed Raul and emery , I would have thought Kroenke had the last say on that but if anyone knows better please tell. So going forward if we don’t improve in the next couple of seasons ,… Read more »

Victorious

Graham
Allegri/Arteta/ PV4, ok

Would prefer any of them to Emery

Dream10

Allegri is ready to come to the PL. He’s been linked with Chelsea and Arsenal for the last couple of season. He wants 200m to spend though. He started flirting with Utd when Jose was sacked. He’ll end up at one of the CL contenders.

englandsbest

Arsenal’s years of trouble can be easily explained: the Club is going nowhere no matter who the manage is while Stan is calling the shots and pulling the strings.

Those of us who imagined that the departure of Wenger would act like a magic wand and bring back the good days were living in dreamland.

The utter contempt with which King Kroenke treats us, the ‘natives’, is intolerable. To him, we are just a far-flung outpost of empire.

I have asked this question before, and I will ask it again: name me a successful Club without a committed owner.

Majesticgooner

Pedro do you know something we don’t? Maybe emery knows it as well, his energy levels on the touch line seems to have drained away, he just stands looking like the clueless Wenger sitting down, he just needs to find a Mac. Look I don’t believe it’s to late for him to turn it round but first he needs to swallow his pride , make up with Ozil, try and actually coach the players , especially in defending ant taking set pieces and take a chance especially at right back and on the wings with the youth players, we lack… Read more »

El Gooner

On a different note – anybody have 2 tickets for the Man Utd. game? Have spent the last 4 days F5ing the ***** out of Ticket Exchange and every time something it appears it has magically gone by the time I click on it, if I was paranoid I would think there was an agency behind it!

China1

That result would be bearable if it was a one off but we’ve been so bad lately that it was a matter of time until it happened

Victorious

Not sure we ever had the pull for Allegri,that boat has sailed a long time ago, just like pep,klopp,ancelloti..etc.. we gleefully turned up our nose as they signed for our rivals the owner is rather too dickless too bring in an elite manager, he’s the antithesis to being ambitious Favre is doing an excellent job at Dortmund, I know he got it badly wrong at spuds in d CL, lost almost half his team to injuries and I would still fancy them to win at home, I mean overall he’s been excellent for them, theyre bossing their league and playing… Read more »

Majesticgooner

You know you’re in trouble when guys on untold start saying that emery has got it all wrong with Ozil How to kill a player By Walter Broeckx After the world cup in Russia in 2018 Özil was the scapegoat of the German media and the fans. He was blamed for all that went wrong. And we know how the media report things is how the more ignorant football supporter will look at the game and will look at players. Now we also know that the influence of Bayern Munich in German football is very big. And that many pundits… Read more »

bennydevito

Fuck Untold,

Put the link up by all means but don’t fill up the hallowed Grove with their tripe ffs!

qna

Situation for Unai is pretty much as it was for Arsene now. CL qualification or bust. I think that is fair given the recent performances. I have been backing the 7 months isn’t long enough argument. But on the other hand if Raul was as ruthless as we probably need him to be he would sack Emery today and see if a fresh voice could get us over the line into top 4. Chelsea did it a few years back on the back of winning the CL iirc. Short term gig until the end of the season only and see… Read more »

bennydevito

Thing is, with the current squad, injuries and lack of transfer window activity if somebody else was in charge with things being exactly the same do we really think results would be much better?

bennydevito

Who is available to come in this summer?

azed

Emery was a good tactician but didn’t have this ability”.

At least your article admits Emery is a good tactician.

OleGunner

Pedro possibly giddy at the loss.
Fair enough, Emery fucked up last night.

My only question now is who do we want next as manager; who they believe our board will realistically go for? Not lofty names like Allegri which are nigh on impossible.

qna

“In a further article we’ll look at whether it is time to reconsider Untold’s long held position of supporting the club, the manager and the team.‘”

Funny that. Seems to be catching on with a lot of AKBs.

“Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to the dark side”

azed

We are turning Ozil into Diaby who is suddenly good when he doesn’t play.

Ozil played against Cardiff, Crystal palace and Wolves and he didn’t create anything. Ozil has played 13 games this season and 1 assist which extrapolated for the season is 3.

Let us stop this Ozil shit. If you think we need Ozil against Bate, then what’s the point in having Mkhitaryan?

qna

Benny: Thing is, with the current squad, injuries and lack of transfer window activity if somebody else was in charge with things being exactly the same do we really think results would be much better? Long term issue remains. The squad is not nearly good enough. But as to your points, the same argument applies every season to the teams in the relegation battle come Christmas. Standard procedure is to sack the manager. Sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn’t. But I could see a similar type of move here. Can save a bit of face, bring back… Read more »

Dissenter

Legrove is down the shitter
Someone posted a full length garbage from Untold, not an excerpt or a link.
The entire club is down the shitter, we have to observe purgatory for the sins of blindly following Wenger

Emery doesn’t deserve to go past the summer if we don’t go past this round.
I really think it’s not beyond the bounds of reason that Bate will qualify ahead of us

englandsbest

No answers? Okay, try this one then. Name me twenty successful Clubs WITH committed owners.

I’ll give you a starter: Man C,Bayern, Real Madrid, Barcelona…

Charlie George

Dissenter
Wenger is gone!

His team scored 10 last season against the same rubbish..

You are a bright chap….
Focus on the here and now.!

The past dear boy is The Past!

Nelson

I am a positive guy. Here is what I’ll do. – Amend the relationship with the dressing room. You don’t need to play Ozil. Have him sitting on the bench as substitute. Let the team knows that Ozil is part of the group. It is clear that Ozil is loved by lot of his teammate, more so than a lot of Ozil haters on this blog would want to know. – Replace Mustafi with PapaSok. The fans should leave Mustafi alone for awhile. All the criticism and trade rumors have got to him. He was better before. – Yesterday, only… Read more »

Crusaderrabbit

The club (and fans) need to focus less on who the manager is and who is and isnt playing, more on who we should be as a club, what is our identity, whats is our purpose – Pedro alludes to it all the time and he is right. So whilst I do wish Kroenke would dig into his pockets so we can compete – if thats not going to happen then we need to determine how we’re going to succeed, what that success looks like and what kind of club do we want to be. I don’t see how Emery… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Lolz.

Emery is making the demented final Wenger years look like prime Ferguson!

Wrong man. Wrong club. Wrong hire.

End of the season, Arsenal have to get rid and either go big for Allegri or take on the special sauce/pizazz of a young hungry buck.

Knowing arsenal they’ll probably hire Arsene back or Moarinho.

Dissenter

Pedro
No one leading this group of stragglers ers to the promised land.
It may not be Emery, no doubt because it seems he’s maxed out already.
Until we get a clear-out of half the squad, there’s no salvation.
Half of these lot need to wander off and perish in the wilderness, the gates of the promised land won’t open to them – THEY AREN’T GOOD ENOUGH.

Guns of Hackney

Imagine being Ozil.

Stays warm. Watches game. Sends a few texts. Earns £350,000. Goes home and plays the computer.

Ozil is a hero.

Nijjy

The sun’s rising from the west,
Arsene Wenger is still the best.

qna

Crusader. That has to be the job of the DOF. Raul Sanhelhi. He needs to demonstrate that. If not, we desperately need to bring in somebody that can. I can give him a pass on Suarez. Shocking player, but who can we expect him to get without spending any money. A warm body and nothing more. But if we make that permanent then FMD. Also, Licht. Again, maybe we ran out of money and it seemed like a good idea at the time. But if he doesn’t learn from this and does it again then that would be disgraceful. I’m… Read more »

Dissenter

CG
I know Wenger is gone but his stench still pervades the place.
I’m not standing in the way of any Emery criticism or even sacking him in the summer so long as it comes with other changes.
Replacing Emery without clearing out the Wenger trash is like rearranging deck chairs on the titanic because the band is still playing.

Anyone still heartily defending Emery now is like the WW2 Japanese soldier doing a holdout on a remote pacific island 40 years after the emperor surrendered

Charlie George

And GoH

He ain’t going nowhere ( rightly so)
I suggest we actually play him.
Can’t be difficult…

Guns of Hackney

CG

Now it’s a matter of principle and emery can’t lose face.

Ozil has won the war. Arsenal were the idiots who made this happen.

Dissenter

When you read that Son is being rewarded with a new wage of 150k weekly, you realize why we are in the gutter.
That;s what’s firing me up this morning.

Emery’s record will elevate or sink Emery. As it stands, there’s no way we keep him in the summer if we are serious
I must be the only one who thinks BATE will get a result next week .He has to play Ozil and stop the stupid nonsense pathetic build-up from the back.
He’s trying to teach Wengerized players how to fish with spears.

Ishola70

Bate at their most stubborn are a Championship level team and if you don’t turn up you can get a disappointing result. As someone else said I think the 6-0 was when BATE had absolutely nothing to play for and the other victory against them well Wenger’s babes turned up that night. They did at times you know. Said at the start of the season that doubted Emery could win the EL in his first season. Getting to know the club. transition, too many average players in the squad for me means it is a very long shot to win… Read more »

vickingz

We shouldn’t change the coach but the players? Which of the two is easier? Getting the best out of people isn’t always as hard/difficult as people think. The greatest need of a man is RESPECT and the highest psychological needs of a man are just three. To be loved, valued and appreciated. Communicate these dimensions to the psychology of a man and watch him do the extra for you but we have proud and arrogant folks so power driven till they get consumed. If your foot soldiers want respect, respect them and watch them bring you victories but no, you… Read more »

Charlie George

Dissenter
You do seem have a strange way of looking at things.

If Son was playing for Arsenal under Emery he would be bang average….

If Ozil was playing for Spurs under Poch he would be performing consistently well..

Thats the difference!

We have oodles and oodles of talent- we just need a proper coach to get consistent performances out of them..

We have a clown Instead..

Dissenter

CG
Son is operating at the peak of his prowess and he’s only now just getting rewarded with his second contract in one year….for 150k week;y.

Contrasted with the idiotic and foolish wage structure your man-Wenger used to ruin Arsenal.

Ozil used to be a fantastic player, once upon a time. He would have been worthy of a 25k wage but in 2015 [same as the wage bump Spuds the giving Son] but we screwed up by making him one the top-10 wages in world football when he was on the downward slope.

Got that?

Dissenter

***25k wage bump

vickingz

@ Dissenter, you ain’t the only one thinking BATE will get a good result next week. I don’t know what others have seen in this team which makes them think arsenal will blow BATE away next week. Maybe the cutbacks and that’s all. Meanwhile, the greater problem lies in emery’s leadership skills. If he doesn’t appease these players before our next game, arsenal is as good as out of europa. As powerful as wenger thought he was, these players stopped playing for him after they won the last FA cup for him and he went behind to negotiate for another… Read more »

Valentin

Yesterday I did mentioned that the Monaco Vice president was sacked because of the incompetent changes he had recently introduced. Seems that there is more to it than that. The owner has allegedly sacked him because he had put in place a system where he was receiving a bonus paid by the agents of players he signed for the club. Talk about inducement. That would explain why he had disbanded the recruitment department. He was working only with agents who were paying him without any regards to the quality of the players and his suitability to the first team. We… Read more »

Leedsgunner

Even if we went to Belarus with our U23s we should have managed a win, especially against a team that hasn’t played since December.

Last night’s tepid display was inexcusable.

We are treading water, no different than under Wenger.

Bamford10

Emery may not be the right man for the job, but people are making too much of last night. It was -2°C and the field was complete crap. This played a part. We will beat BATE easily at the Emirates and things will be looking up again in terms of our Europa campaign. As for winning the Europa, though, Emery really does need to get us playing better football. He needs to get his best eleven players into his starting XI, he needs to find the best formation for that XI to play in, and he needs to get that… Read more »

HighburyLegend

“Allegri is ready to come to the PL.
He wants 200m to spend though.”

So we are stuck with the same problem. Stan will never agree to give this amount of money for transfers, so forget it people, Emery will still be there next summer.

Receding Hairline

Average players who are supposed to be playing for their futures and here we are discussing if they have downed tools or not.

Yea lets keep scouring Europe for special sauce to get the best out of Mustafi and company.

Dissenter

Charlie George
‘We have oodles and oodles of talent- we just need a proper coach to get consistent performances out of them’

That brought out the chuckle..Charlie Chuckle George 😂😂😂
We have oodles of talent?
It has to be microscopic talent because a tea-spoon can continently hold all the “talent’ in this squad.

HighburyLegend

“It was -2°C and the field was complete crap. ”

Some good old “wenger excuses”… lol
It’s hard to be so disappointed when you were a true Emery believer not so long ago…

Dissenter

Bamford
I think we are stretching ourselves thin when we start saying it was -2 degeees ad the pitch was bad.
That’s precisely what the Wenger people used to do.

Emery deserves all,the flak,he gets for last night and it was very bad.

Josip Skoblar

Pedro: “Emery stands on the sidelines like he’s just found out…”
That’s exactly how he looked when he was managing PSG.

HighburyLegend

Lol Charlie George really need to buy a new brain.

Receding Hairline

Dissenter Emery didn’t even use that excuse

He said BATE deserved their win because they played well. He said before hand he was aware of the conditions and he does not believe it will be a problem. One thing he is not in the business of is making excuses.

Dissenter

..and while we are at it. The Suarez loan is a bust.
You don’t get too many chances to impress at a new club. He’s not on the level of an unmotivated Ozil.
You can tell If a new player has that x-factor real quick.

HighburyLegend

Wonder if any top world class coaches use that kind of excuses…

bennydevito

We can replace Emery with Pep,,Klopp, Allegri or any other host of names that are actually realistic but as long as we continue with the same players that are majoritarily Wenger’s then what really changes? We need a quality back up RB We need a WC level or potential CB We need a WC level or potential LB to push Kolasinac into the back up We need a WC AM to replace Ozil & Ramsey We need 2 WC attacking wide players Without any of this, what manager comes in and does a better job than Emery? It’s all well… Read more »

Gbat

The squad needs a huge turnover regardless of whoever the manager is. The squad is so unbalanced. We lack pace and power, especially in the wide areas. We have no skilful, pacey wingers who can commit defenders. It shows how weak we are that Iwobi is the best option we have out wide. He is the only player who can carry the ball. But his end product is still very poor and he should be a squad player at best. We have about 5 players who’s best position is AM. They all drift inside which leaves us with very little… Read more »

HighburyLegend

“He said BATE deserved their win because they played well”

Which is… worse ?? lol

Dissenter

Dissenter
Emery is supposed to be the manager who review hours of bideo7
Surely we should,have known their pitch would be bad and planned a game around it.
If the club wishes to persist with Emery then they have to do a major revamp, not just a wall painting project in the summer.

Thomas

There’s a ton of players that needs to fuck off in the summer:

Mustafi
Xhaka
Kolasinac
Mkhitaryan
Iwobi
Maitland Niles
Elneny
Chambers
Monreal
Asano (hahahahaha he’s still an Arsenal player)

Bamford10

Dissenter

Nah, I disagree. We created chances and lost 1-0 to a decent team on a freezing night and terrible field in Belarus in February.

We didn’t lose 3-0, we weren’t a defensive shambles, we weren’t disorganized, players weren’t dogging it.

In no way is my saying it was freezing and the field crap comparable to the bullshit Wenger spewed. I’m not really even defending Emery, as I’ve made it clear I have serious doubts about him. I’m simply saying that people are making too much of last night.

HighburyLegend

I’m with benny about Vieira.
#Pray4PaddyAFCnextmanager

Oooopppssss…. just forgot that the Kroenke never heard of him lol

Dissenter

Every team has moments of slump The problem is that this shitty phase is becoming perennial and the manager does not seem to know how to correct it. He’s still doing things the same like he has only on gear. If theEuropa league is our best best, then drop Cech, he’s semi-retired already. Emery needs to start acting like a manager trying to keep his job, not like he has a Wenger-type entitlement to the job. He needs to bring in some U-23 players into the mix to freshen up,things. Poch played mJian Foyth against Dortmund FFS. He needs to… Read more »

Dissenter

Lol
I addressed a post to myself 😂😂😂

Bamford10

By the way, the factors I’ve cited aren’t “excuses”. Emery should have found a way to win. However, they are explanations for why BATE could have managed a 1-0 victory over Arsenal last night.

Leedsgunner

Both teams played in the same conditions and on the same field, I’m sorry we are supposed to be one of the best teams in the world in the best league and we’re blaming the weather and field?

That’s really pathetic.

No, we’re not making more of it than it needs to be, yesterday was embarrassing.v It should have never happened, especially with the players we took out there.

Bamford10

Highbury

The owner cannot simply add his own money to the transfer kitty. That would be a clear violation of European FFP rules. Best he can do is pay off the club’s stadium debt, which would yield us an additional 20m per year to spend.

Champagne charlie

Jamie

With respect, we absolutely did have Allegri’s ear in the summer. We’re an unbelievable draw to managers on the continent, and, whether you choose to believe me or not, it was the structure ABOVE the manager that left Allegri chewing it over and ultimately getting seduced once again by the Old Lady.

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