HectorFanTV DROPS — Emery seeks a better record away

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Arsenal head out on the road this weekend after not winning in 6 games. Fear not, Emery knows what the double-flip is going down.

“My first critic is myself. We can make the top four, but we know it’s not easy.

“We are strong at home, but I think we need to do better away. We started very well, changing our mentality to get more points away. But now we need to recover our confidence and performance.

“Also we know defensively we need to do better. We tried to play with three and two centre-backs. Be passionate, be calm but above all work.”

Away form is an odd one. It’s all in the head. I find it interesting that something like that can impact elite athletes, you’d kind of think they were a bit above that? I understand the butterflies might be on fire in Istanbul, but at Huddersfield this Saturday, I’d hope less so?

We take on bottom of the table Huddersfield. They recently agreed to part ways with the excellent David Wagner. He was replaced by Dortmund first-team coach, Jan Siewart. Not sure I can speak about him with any sort of knowledge, so I won’t even try and Google research him. Huddersfield take chances on managers in the same way I would, and it’s paid dividends for little investment.

I have my doubts they’ll have enough to take down Arsenal at the weekend. We have Mikhi coming back into the fold, which I would hope could give us a little more width and creativity from wide positions. However, it’s clear that the most important thing is to keep a clean sheet. The team really needs to get back to basics. We were overrun by Cardiff at home a few weeks ago, that’s not a good look.

Emery needs to get his season back on track, he needs to get him best players on the pitch and he needs to find a system that he can roll with for more than 24 minutes.

Finally, Hector B has dropped a fan TV channel. He’s talking about his surgery, sure, I love that, but be real, when is the high-end fashion chat dropping? I wanna see the latest Balenciaga sneakers I can’t by because I’m old. I want to know about OFF-White print shirts. I wanna know when the male sarong is coming back?

Good luck sir, and don’t get downbeat about the muppets in the comments.

JUST KIDDING GUYS, see you in the comments. x

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  1. Champagne charlie

    Banford

    That’s a total crock. You ignore “irrelevant” comments and I’d wager all of those come in the form of comments you’ve no desire to answer.

    Alex has asked a reasonable question there, or is it irrelevant?

  2. qna

    Well done to Huddersfield. Deserved a goal. 3 points in a shocking performance. There is a bright side in that somewhere.

  3. Champagne charlie

    Pierre’s questioning of our seeing games out is looking more and more a fair appraisal.

    Awful second half, not the first one of those this season either.

  4. Victorious

    Alex

    I’m afraid you’re correct

    Kroenke is bigger cancer eating our club rotten

    No elite manager will touch us with a barge pole with him overseeing affairs

    It does beg question: have we seen the best of this club already

    Are we ever going to be a top club again, if so How so?

    Oooooops

    No clean sheet against Huddersfield

    Christ! club is a joke and Emery is a fraud.

  5. Batistuta

    Have to say though, despite absolute shit players, Emery shouldn’t be having shit performances against Huddersfield. Hard to defend that performance really.

  6. Bamford10

    Champagne

    I already answered it. See above. If someone has the time to chase down the comment of gambon’s that I referred to, they should do so.

  7. Un na naai

    Emery is fucking useless. We are dull, lifeless, boring, bland, robotic
    Get rid of this David Moyes lite dullard

    BOOOOOOOOO.

  8. Rich robbins

    Another ridiculous performance. Iwobi drives me nuts. Goal difference clean sheets we just cannot deliver. Sad, so very sad. It hurts to watch.

  9. useroz

    I beg your pardon.

    I shouldn’t have counted Kolac a defender.

    Our mid fielder gave away an OG.

    Kolac can’t defend fullstop. Animal my arse.

  10. Upstate Gooner

    Shocking performance. Any other team but Huddersfield would have beaten us. Defense is clueless. Iwobi, despite scoring a goal, is a complete donkey. AMN is turning into one. 3 points is the only positive yet I’m still not sure how we got them.

  11. Un na naai

    Emery hasn’t affected any positive change at all.
    We are worse than we were last year
    £70m spent and supposedly better manager and we have gone backwards

  12. Majesticgooner

    Is emery really saying we would have played any worse with Ozil in the side? I think emery has reached a. Critical stage in his managerial career at arsenal, the team just lack any va va voom, it just sucks the life out of you watching this team, no style, no energy, no passion , no definitive tactics, with all this it just seems pathetic him picking some sort of fight with Ozil.

  13. bennydevito

    The reason we can’t spend is because of FFP, our wages and the overpriced shite Wenger brought in.

    Not Kronke.

    Not £45m either that’s already been roundly debunked.

  14. Dissenter

    We had enough chances to score 10 goals.
    10 easy chances. We were just sloppy through out..mis-controlled passes, poor touches, sloppy slips etc..
    Suarez wont be an Arsenal player next season. The risk was worth taking but he doesn’t look special.
    I though he was going to run at players?

  15. Marko

    Exactly, you know there’s no much sauce in a manager of a top 6 club if he can’t dominate poverty sides like Huddersfield and cardiff

    True. Last season we lost away from home to relegated Stoke and Swansea and drew at West Brim. Season before that 2-1 at Boro lost 3-1 at West Brom would suggest this idea of us usually dominating teams down near the bottom as not entirely true. Even the season previous when we finished second 2-1 defeat at West Brom 1-1 at Norwich and 1-0 at Newcastle who were both relegated. Drew 0-0 at Sunderland too. Basically sauce or no sauce this idea of us dominating poorer sides away from home is a stretch by and large. Christ we’ve been shite for years if you think about it

  16. Ivan

    @ Batistuta – m8 id think the same, if they wouldnt play like this against Huddersfield.

    Tbh those players should look better with no coaching at all.

    Suarez looked better on the ball and more positionaly aware than Iwobi ever was and he played few mins.

    Mustafi – his decision making is so awfull that there isnt a game he doesent create few scoring oportunities for opposition.

    I sincerely pray that Emery is better then this shows couse if hes not, next manager will be some hale Mary apointment like Arteta and then we are truly Everton or West Ham level.

    There is no acomplished manager in the world willing to take this team under Arsenal circumstance as we currently are.

  17. Josip Skoblar

    Ahahaha. Funny to see Redtruth settling for mediocrity. He used to be more demanding when Wenger was in charge.

  18. Bamford10

    Upstate

    You said in a post yesterday that Unai Emery is a “fraud”. Do you stand by this claim? If so, could you explain what you mean by this? Thanks.

  19. Un na naai

    Bamford

    Aren’t you meant to be off supporting Real Madrid like you promised a few years back? Because we kept finishing 3rd and 4th….. 😂😂😂😂

  20. bennydevito

    Emery isn’t the one on the pitch though is he in nai na? And most of these players we’re brought in under Wenger

    You’ll get it eventually.

    Maybe.

  21. Champagne charlie

    Banford

    You’ll have to forgive me not keeping up with your comments, but seems Alex is unaware of your particular POV on this one too so maybe just clarify so you’re not misrepresented any? Citing Gambon isn’t answering much.

    Since 2007 what positive influence has Kroenke had on Arsenal?

  22. Marko

    Kolasinac on the 3rd goal summed up his Arsenal career to date. Absolutely thick beyond words and incapable of defending even the simplest of situations. He sees it more than Monreal he has to put his foot through it and he scores an own goal. Atrocious signing.

  23. Bamford10

    Ivan

    Agree that Suarez looked a little sharper and a little more promising today. He still has a long way to go, though, to prove he wasn’t a meaningless signing.

  24. bennydevito

    Emery is a fraud.

    Looll! 🤣🤣🤣

    Most ridiculous comment on here today and there has been plenty.

    Go and look up the dictionary definition of fraud and then come back and try again.

  25. Dissenter

    What positives has Kroenke brought to the arsenal?

    None ….asked and answered

    What negatives has Kroenke brought to Arsenal?

    Honestly, NONE

    He hasn’t been a great owner but he hasn’t;t been a disastrous owner too.
    His sins are not from intrusion but from being a bystander while the “footballing people” made poor decisions after poor decisions.
    Contrary to AlexanderH’s assertoou, Kroenke is not a poor owner because he didn’t spend money. It’s because he didn’t articulate a vision separate from the nonsensical “values ands traditions” that Wenger/Gazidis used to hoodwink us.

  26. Champagne charlie

    Stoke vs West Brom is the SNF game? Christ above, the inbreds are off the streets for a couple of hours then. What a shit offering.

  27. Bamford10

    Champagne

    One, as I already noted, gambon wrote a long and fairly thorough answer to that question.

    I’m under no obligation to reproduce it. Someone else can, and then you and Alexander can deal with it. Alexander won’t, though, because that’s not what Alexander does. What he does is repeat the same lazy, empty, one-sided, fact-free narrative every single day.

    However, until someone pastes that comment in, or summons the energy to make their own reply on this point, perhaps you two could tell us all about what the previous majority owner did. We can then use that as a ruler of sorts to measure Kroenke by.

  28. Charlie George

    UN

    Very well put.

    A very scabby 90 mins.

    Hopefully all Who have watched this nonsense today – have not go too much scar tissue..

    Today was an archetypal emery performance.
    And to think- we got sold this video technical coach would move us on to better things…)

    A win- but so laborious, so bereft of any flair whatsover.

    How the hell do we shift expensive tickets ( as mentioned by posters earlier for Thursdays weeks 6pm match against Batty- after this…?

    Only the diehards will tolerate this dirge for too much longer.

  29. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Whoa whoa whoa Pedro

    Chill with new lynx.

    Fella yer starting to get some campaign to oust dick..

    Ridiculous

    Back rather than sack

  30. Marko

    The Emery stuff can continue on but he’s not going anywhere anytime soon. Your best bet is to hope next season we start off terribly in the first 10-15 games and they’re forced to make a decision on him. Which almost certainly won’t happen assuming that we have a good summer. Basically grin and bear it. Which is just as well because I can’t think of any obvious replacements that might could be available in the summer. Maybe wait another year or two for Favre or Nagelsmann?

  31. bennydevito

    I just had to check the score on sky sports because looking through the comments I thought we lost.

    But we won.

    If Chelsea lose tomorrow we go level with them and 2 behind Utd.

    Not bad from a manager who doesn’t know what he’s doing.

    Not bad at all.

    To win when you’re playing badly is the sign of a good team. Onwards and upwards.

  32. China1

    Lol Bamford you realize you probably just dedicated more words and time to invite other people to search for, copy and paste your own comments than you could’ve used to simplify clarify your point again

    Inefficient much?

  33. China1

    Benny I’m emery in too but trust me you don’t wanna argue with people on this one. I watched the whole 90 and despite being an emery in guy, it was absolutely atrocious.

  34. bennydevito

    Well, the diehards tolerated this dirge for over 5 years under Wenger so I foresee no problem there whatsoever.

    Next!

  35. Alexanderhenry

    CC

    I give up on getting an answer to my question.
    Also, avoiding answering a question by throwing out other questions is a classic ploy when one has no answer.

    It’s really a waste of time arguing with people who resort to this.

  36. Marko

    Only the diehards will tolerate this dirge for too much longer.

    We tolerated so much worse for far longer. Also diehards? I don’t think there’s a single Emery diehard that exists. Fans support clubs and not managers

  37. China1

    It wasn’t one of those early season wins where we saw marginal games from a few players and a few positives in an otherwise less than stellar performance

    It wasn’t that. It was absolutely dismal stuff

  38. Bamford10

    China

    You’re clearly not following the comment chains well, as the comment I was referring to was gambon’s, not mine.

  39. bennydevito

    China,

    I’m not an Emery in guy, I’m just not a toys out of the pram wahhhhhh! Spurs fans sense of entitlement change your manager every half a season guy.

    Big difference.

  40. PhD2020

    Bamford10February 9, 2019 17:14:58
    perhaps you two could tell us all about what the previous majority owner did.We can then use that as a ruler of sorts to measure Kroenke by.
    ——-

    I can’t believe I’ve just read this..This is really and truly an embarrassing face palm moment.I’m speechless by this comment..

    Incredible..I feel for this guy….

    He doesn’t understand at all,how we were structured before,or prior to Kroenke coming on board,before becoming majority owner and then full owner.

    You’ve literally confirmed everything for all to see.

    Speechless.

  41. China1

    If you watch two highlights that accurately summarize the whole 90 minutes, watch when mikki is running in a dangerous position and trips over himself with no one around him. And for the other one see AMN not even look in the direction he’s passing and calmly pass the ball to the opposition on the edge of his own box

    Those are the two takeaway moments that do our performance justice imo…

  42. China1

    And highlight number 3 is Lola shooting into his own net whilst in a position to kick it elsewhere. That’s pretty fitting

  43. Charlie George

    Marko
    Arsenal last season under Wenger AT HOME were exceptional. ( they were abysmal and beyond the Pale away from home granted)

    They scored a barrage of goals too
    The football was exciting.
    It was entertaining.- not dirge …

    This is dirge.
    Accept it.

  44. Bamford10

    Right, but it was largely dismal because of the players we had in the XI, not because of Unai Emery.

    AMN, Iwobi, Kolasinac … these are not good players.

    If Bellerin and (a fit) Monreal were the starting wingbacks today, if Holding, Sokratis and Koscielny were the CBs, if Ramsey had played where Iwobi played, if Aubameyang could have come in at some point for Lacazette, we would have seen a much better performance.

    Yeah, I agree that Emery has never had us humming this season, but we aren’t playing dismally because of Unai Emery. Or certainly not primarily because of Unai Emery. We are playing dismally primarily because we are fielding some fairly poor players. If you replaced these players with some of our better players, we’d be playing much better.

  45. Alexanderhenry

    Dissenter

    I get what you’re saying but taking over a big club like arsenal and doing nothing is in itself a negative.

    He’s sat back and done nothing while the club has drifted into mediocrity.
    He hasn’t contributed a penny, has shown no interest, no enthusiasm and no ambition.
    What he is banking on is the loyalty of arsenal fans. As long as they continue to pitch up and buy arsenal mouse mats, he knows it’s all okay.

    It’s actually a horribly arrogant, complacent and contemptuous attitude.

    What this club needs is new ownership.

  46. China1

    Benny me too! Which is why you should trust me when I say people moaning about this game aren’t throwing their toys out of the pram. It was shocking

    People calling for emery’s head maybe – but it’s hard to sit through games like that and not question the manager’s performance

    I simply don’t know what he was thinking today it was a shocker

  47. Upstate Gooner

    Bamford

    Fraud – someone who poses as someone he is not. Emery is a perfect example. Clown, vampire, guy with too much gel in his head. That’s Emery. Football manager he is not. He’s a poser. A Fraud.

  48. Wenker-wanger

    If fans believe emery is another wenger they know nothing about football. I saw NO tactics with Wenger…the joker just told the players to express themselves.
    Emery is different class…he is having to try and make a silk purse from a pigs ear. This is predominately Wenger’s squad..a strange non-cohesive Frankenstein construct and a mindset tranquilized under the soft, mentally failing manager.
    Emery is a lot better than what this squad delivers.
    Emery knows his target is fourth and this season its harder than ever as top teams have upped their game .He currently has a defense which is composed of lich, mustafi kolasinac etc. These aren’t good defenders and this vulnerability has to impact throughout the 11 on the pitch.
    For me, emerys only real mistake of any significance is playing koscienly at Southampton, a shocking selection, but then again he hasn’t got a crystal ball.

  49. China1

    Lol Charlie George arsenal haven’t played exciting football regularly since cesc fabregas left. What have you been watching these last few years???

  50. kenyangunner

    Truth be told. Arsenal has a poor squad and lucky to be in top six.
    Huddersfield played better football in 2nd half

  51. TR7

    We don’t need 5-6 new signings to beat Huddersfield with style, do we ? Emery is truly underwhelming.

    Off topic but did Bamford start posting on Le Grove around the same.time Kroenke became the majority shareholder of Arsenal ? I think yes but needs Pedro to.confirm it .

  52. Champagne charlie

    “perhaps you two could tell us all about what the previous majority owner did. We can then use that as a ruler of sorts to measure Kroenke by“

    Idk, Oversaw Wenger’s fruitful decade as manager?

    It’s an odd one from you frankly, since Kroenke came in we’ve fallen off the pace as title winners go. But you’re always so eager to dismiss that, and now you seem to be alluding to Gambons list of more arbitrary ‘achievements’ under Kroenke such as investing in the training facilities and overhauling technical structures of the club?

    Is that success of a football club owner by any normal standard? Fuck all competitiveness on the pitch but check out that new 3G pitch at Colney?

  53. Marko

    Arsenal last season under Wenger AT HOME were exceptional. ( they were abysmal and beyond the Pale away from home granted)They scored a barrage of goals too
    The football was exciting.
    It was entertaining.- not dirge …

    Right but away from home against poor teams down near the bottom we have struggled by and large the last few years. This idea of dominating poor teams is a myth. Wenger struggled too. And also we haven’t played proper exciting football since the days of Cesc. We’ve been shit for a while

  54. Bamford10

    PhD

    Instead of doing this “OMG” routine, why don’t you explain what I’ve gotten wrong. Was there no one majority owner prior to Kroenke becoming this? If so, I’ll just revise my question. It won’t change much.

    Please explain what the structure was prior to 2007 and why this fundamentally changes my question.

  55. Alexanderhenry

    Phd

    Like I posted earlier, if you have no answer to a question, deflect from the question by asking other questions.

    It’s an effective but quite obvious debating tactic.

    No one has to be a genius to see it though.

  56. Wenker-wanger

    And strange how a 22 game unbeaten run has been forgotten. LOOK AT THE FIT PLAYERS PLAYING DURING THAT RUN.

  57. China1

    What emery needs to do to get the fans more clearly on board is return to the progress we saw before December

    Grit and determination to grind out results consistently. Marginal gains from a solid half of the squad. Logical substitutions at key times. Even if it’s not perfect, this will get us results and momentum to finish the season strongly and see where we end up

    What greatly concerns me is after a good start to the season when I could buy in to the direction we were going even if we still had a long way to go, it feels like we’ve lost our way.

    These performances are the footballing equivalent of living pay cheque to pay cheque because it just feels like each game we are just surviving without long term progress or vision

  58. Marko

    It’s an odd one from you frankly, since Kroenke came in we’ve fallen off the pace as title winners go

    We started falling before he took over. 3 years without a title before he took over. The decline started under Wenger mate. Excuse away but that’s it

  59. China1

    To be clear I don’t expect anything impressive from this squad. But we looked a better team in November than we do now. We have some injuries sure, but we still need more out of these players. They are trash but there’s another 10% in them I’m sure of that

  60. Bamford10

    Champagne

    The previous owner/s “oversaw” Wenger’s successful period? That’s your answer? Meaning: they did nothing. They watched on, they allowed Wenger to do his thing and they didn’t interfere.

    Hmmm, that sounds a lot like what Kroenke did, except that he happened to preside over a time when Wenger had lost his managerial “mojo”. So, by your own admission, there is no difference between what the previous owner/s did and what Kroenke did. The only difference was in the manager.

  61. Champagne charlie

    China

    There’s an argument for the “better” showing first part of the season being down to that ‘new manager smell’ that many clubs go for when struggling down the bottom.

    Just saying, it’s hard to know if the upturn was Emery or whether it was just a reaction to a new manager period. Pessimistic view could suggest we’re seeing the fruits of Emery’s labour as the season progresses. But that seems far too harsh a stance at this point.

  62. Dissenter

    AlexanderH
    You’ll find that Bamford and myself are the dimetric opposite of Kroenke
    He doesn’t represent my political, ethical or moral values. I detest him for a to more that you may realize.
    I supported the Uzbekh-Russian from the get-go, Emirate stroller and I shave had some heated conversations here apt this.
    Kroenke hasn’t done anything he wasn’t;t asked not to do. The home fans wanted him to stay away in the early part of the decade and he did just that.

    He bought Arsenal precisely because it appeared to be a club that could run itself in cruise control and you’ll find out that why the previous owners chose him over Usmanov.. The British owners didn’t anat an I trustee majority shareholder.
    Let me repeat that again; The British majority share owners didn’t not want an intrusive foreign majority share how. They wanted arsenal to remain Arsenal. That’s why they picked Kroenke over Usmanov. Kroenke delivered on their wishes.
    I think you should take you anger out on Lady Nina-Smith who’s conveniently moved to Monaco now.

  63. Upstate Gooner

    Bamford
    Agree that Suarez looked a little sharper and a little more promising today.

    I’m not sure if you’re serious or just trolling. Suarez was MIA once again. A complete Nothing of a player.

  64. Bamford10

    Alexander

    Actually, I pointed out that other posters, and specifically gambon, have already put the time in to answering your question.

    I’m not obligated to do so.

  65. China1

    Lol that’s such a dumb comment Bamford

    Overseeing success and overseeing failure are not equals from a company ownership perspective. How on earth do you arrive at this perspective?

    you write reasonably eloquently but there’s absolutely no way in hell you went to Harvard dude. Every other point you make is so riddled with bad logic there’s just no way

  66. HillWood

    Stan was happy with Wenger when he was bringing in CL money regardless of how far we got in that competition.
    Wenger failed to make CL twice so he sacked him

  67. Marko

    Is there an international break coming up? Our next two league games are at home to league game Southampton and Bournemouth and then away to Spurs home to United and away to Wolves. Will only really be able to afford to drop points away to Spurs if we’re honest

  68. China1

    Again Bamford you post message after message telling people to check someone else’s old post written god knows where when for the same time and effort you could summarize it yourself. But that would then open you up to being torn to shreds as usually happens with your half baked logic on here

  69. Bamford10

    TR7

    Why don’t you try talking to me, mate, rather than making your stupid fucking conspiracy theory insinuations? What a complete cunt.

    For your information, though, I have been posting here since 2012 or so — a lot longer than you, I believe — and I don’t give a fuck about Stan Kroenke. Nothing could mean less to me. I do care about the truth, though, so I don’t allow people to make bullshit arguments just because it feels good for them to do so or because they have an agenda or because they don’t know any better.

    I have an idea: rather than doing your bogus conspiracy theory ad hominem, why don’t you make a counterargument to one of the arguments I’ve made?

  70. bennydevito

    Charlie GeorgeFebruary 9, 2019    17:29:02

    Marko
    Arsenal last season under Wenger AT HOME were exceptional. ( they were abysmal and beyond the Pale away from home granted)

    They scored a barrage of goals too
    The football was exciting.
    It was entertaining.- not dirge …

    This is dirge.
    Accept it.

    >>>>>>

    But we were away like last season where you accepted dirge performances.

  71. Redtruth

    Charlue George
    “Arsenal last season under Wenger AT HOME were exceptional. ( they were abysmal and beyond the Pale away from home granted)”

    Arsenal last season under Wenger AT HOME got crushed 3-1 by Man Utd and 3-0 by Man City., they also trailed 3-1 to Liverpool before they felt sorry for us and gifted us 2 goals…

  72. Marko

    I supported the Uzbekh-Russian from the get-go

    Our options were a republican or a shady Jabba the hut with an allegation of r@pe. Wonderful options. But that’s what money can buy you. The rest of what you said was fair enough I thought. The hands off approach people liked when Wenger was successful and when he became shit then they lamented Kroenke.

  73. Upstate Gooner

    Wenker
    Emery knows his target is fourth and this season its harder than ever as top teams have upped their game.

    You can’t be serious. We were sitting in 3rd place after beating Spurs. Chelsea are shit. We were 8 points ahead of United. We could and should be doing better. Instead we’re making teams like Soton, Brighton, Huddersfield, etc look like world beaters. It was their only 6th goal scored at home this season. Of course, it had to come against us.

  74. Bamford10

    OK, China, I’ll see if I can find that post of gambon’s. But don’t worry, mate: I’m not worried about being “torn to shreds” by you or your ilk. I’ve already out-argued you several times over, and most of the best posters here — e.g., gambon, Cesc Appeal, Paulinho — hold to the same basic line that I do. As does Pedro. I’m not terribly worried about your camp or its arguments. Cheers, all the same.

  75. PhD2020

    Bamford10February 9, 2019 17:35:11
    Instead of doing this “OMG” routine, why don’t you explain what I’ve gotten wrong. Was there no one majority owner prior to Kroenke becoming this? If so, I’ll just revise my question. It won’t change much. Please explain what the structure was prior to 2007
    ———
    Seriously,if you can’t work it out for yourself,then I can’t help you.
    The fact you are not aware of this glaring oversight on your part-says it all.

    I’m not here to educate a so-called ‘student of the game of 30 years.’

    And I’m certainly not going to spend my Saturday evening, aimlessly engaging in a back and forth writing for an idiot.

    Have a good day…

    Speechless..Doesn’t even know the ownership history of Arsenal..Smh..

  76. bennydevito

    Emery isn’t posing as anyone other than himself.

    Have we seen him in a clown suit?

    Fake fangs and a cape?

    No.

    Ergo not a fraud.

    Some people do like trying as hard as they can to look complete twats.

  77. Champagne charlie

    “So, by your own admission, there is no difference between what the previous owner/s did and what Kroenke did. The only difference was in the manager.“

    Nice try, but no. Use subtlety and complexity in this analysis and stop drawing redundant parallels to make vague arguments you hope stick.

    The previous ownership oversaw the selection process and navigated us from Graham to Wenger. That required having a finger on the pulse, and this much was evident to all i’m sure you’ll remember? The fact Wenger was successful was testament to their due diligence and support in unifying their vision for the club with a manager of ability to deliver said vision.

    This can’t be written off as merely “watching on” as much as you’d like that to be the case to tie into a point you’re hopeful of making. We functioned rather well pre-Kroenke, and his apathy since coming aboard has in no uncertain terms been a significant factor that’s led to the current Arsenal’s mired ways.

  78. TR7

    ‘For your information, though, I have been posting here since 2012 or so — a lot longer than you’

    Not that it matters but I have been posting here since 2010 ( I changed my moniker a few years ago), so you are factually wrong.

    ‘and I don’t give a fuck about Stan Kroenke’

    You are the biggest Kroenke apologist here and by some distance.

  79. Pierre

    Bamford doing his best impression of telly savalas,

    “IF Bellerin and (a fit) Monreal were the starting wingbacks today, IF Holding, Sokratis and Koscielny were the CBs, IF Ramsey had played where Iwobi played, IF Aubameyang could have come in at some point for Lacazette, we would have seen a much better performance.”

    and if a picture paints a thousand words …

  80. Bamford10

    Anyone remember how far back it was that gambon wrote that long, detailed post where he listed all of the investment that has taken place under Kroenke?

    I’ll put a little time into digging it up, but if anybody remembers this, a little help would be appreciated. Cheers.

  81. Marko

    You can’t be serious. We were sitting in 3rd place after beating Spurs. Chelsea are shit. We were 8 points ahead of United. We could and should be doing better.

    That was during a period where we were outperforming expectations and our form wasn’t sustainable especially with injuries during the Christmas period. There was always going to be a drop off. The important thing is you don’t drop off too much and stay in contention until the end of the season

  82. TR7

    ”gambon, Cesc Appeal, Paulinho — hold to the same basic line that I do”

    They don’t hold the same view as you do but rather you adopt their stance like a sheep.

  83. Marko

    The previous ownership oversaw the selection process and navigated us from Graham to Wenger. That required having a finger on the pulse, and this much was evident to all i’m sure you’ll remember?

    Eh Bruce Rioch…

  84. Champagne charlie

    Banford

    Can you not simply rattle off a list yourself? Shouldn’t be that difficult if Kroenke is such a pillar of positivity for Arsenal surely. Even a basic outline of what he’s brought to the table.

    Really weak stance to say ‘no, no, Kroenke has been a force for good…..let me spend 20 mins looking up where i’ve seen it written somewhere’.

  85. Bamford10

    TR7

    I may defend Kroenke against all manner of bogus or unfair claims, but that’s not because I give a fuck about Stan Kroenke. It’s because I think the claims are bogus and misrepresent what is going on at Arsenal.

    Going forward, if you have a problem with an argument I have made, just take it up with me. “Hey, Bamford, I think you’re wrong about x …”. Don’t start some bogus conspiracy theory. That’s just dumb.

    As for your being here since 2010, congrats. What previous moniker/s did you post under?

  86. Victorious

    Bamford

    You’re putting your credibility on the line for the indefensible

    Dunno why you do it to yourself

    But I’d sooner take a wenger apologist serious before I have time for a kroenke guy

    At least the former have made us witnessed great moments,propably the pinnacle of our achievements while the latter as done nothing but slowly drag us back since the moment he came in touch

  87. Upstate Gooner

    Red
    they also trailed 3-1 to Liverpool before they felt sorry for us and gifted us 2 goals…

    Nothing irks me more than a complete BS that some are trying to present as facts. I was actually on a plane to Cancun for the majority of the game so I remember it very well as I only got to watch the last 20 minutes or so while standing in line with the family to pass through customs. Pool were ahead 2-0, and we not only levelled but actually went ahead 3-2. We conceded later on but still showed plenty of heart, desire, and determination. Can’t say the same for the 5-1 drubbing this season, especially after scoring first.

  88. Bamford10

    TR7

    Jesus, you’re fucking annoying. I don’t adopt any line because someone else holds it. I listen to what others have to say, yes, but that is very different.

    And nothing you’ve said changes the fact that none of those guys think, as you and your camp do, that Kroenke is (or has been) the principal problem at AFC.

    Your camp is just turning to ad hominems now, because you don’t have any arguments.

    That’s all that is happening here.

  89. Charlie George

    Surely what with the advent of VAR and the possibility of Emery remaining in his job next season …. the crowds at The Emirates are going to contine to drop- impinging heavily on the bottom line.

    It might well be this fact – that awakens the Kroenkes from their slumber and be forced to act.. and hire a coach with some kudos and lustre.

    Emery+ VAR = R.I P Arsenal 2020

  90. Nelson

    I wonder whether all those transfer talks are getting into Mustafi’s head. In the past, he had a few brain dead reactions. But today, he looked miserable. He made a lot of bad passes.
    AMN is a very unique player. He looked so calm on the ball. With no one around him, he calmly passed the ball to an opponent.
    Iwobi needs mental help. He worked so hard with the ball. Once he is inside the box, something happens to his brain. He rushes to get rid of the ball.
    Lono looked shaky a few times.
    Mikki played one of his best game in an Arsenal shirt.
    Koscielny is the man of the match.

  91. Bamford10

    Pierre

    Are you suggesting that we wouldn’t have played better today if those players had been able to play? If I’m right about that, doesn’t that mean that our poor play today was down to the players available and not down to Emery?

  92. Victorious

    Even the best teams in the world have those moments of blips when they slip up against toilet sides

    Even while we were playing swashbuckling football will had those moments too

    Class is permanent while form is Temporar

    We still had class to batter teams when we fancy it though

    Fast forward to 2019 and we’ve become dirge to watch,cant keep sheet, haven’t completely dominated a team for 90 minutes

    No discernible pattern of play

    Generally playing with no quality and identity, just huff and puff and then hope for a result

    Poor.

  93. Dream10

    Our football was shocking in the 2nd half
    Have to hope Emery is not here after next season. Ideally, he goes in the summer.

  94. Marko

    Do you have a point to make?

    Em yes I think you made it sound like the previous ownership at Arsenal went through a perfect transition from Graham to Wenger something Kroenke couldn’t do and I mentioned Bruce Rioch. Also I wasn’t sure if you realised that we had a manager in between Graham and Wenger. It was Bruce Rioch. Oh and “just before the beginning of the 1996–97 season, Rioch was sacked, after a dispute with the club’s board of directors over transfer funds”. Penny pinching fuckers am I right

  95. Upstate Gooner

    Nelson
    AMN is a very unique player. He looked so calm on the ball. With no one around him, he calmly passed the ball to an opponent.

    You had me laughing out loud there. Been saying it for a while now, AMN = Iwobi v2.0

  96. Marko

    AMN is a very unique player. He looked so calm on the ball. With no one around him, he calmly passed the ball to an opponent.

    Lol

  97. TR7

    Bamford

    ‘Going forward, if you have a problem with an argument I have made, just take it up with me. “Hey, Bamford, I think you’re wrong about x …”. Don’t start some bogus conspiracy theory. That’s just dumb.’

    I posted 5 points on Kroenke a couple of weeks ago addressing you but you would rather repeat a lie thousand times than concede you were wrong. You personify ‘escalation of commitment’ behavioral pattern.

  98. Upstate Gooner

    Red
    Did we show any heart in the recent 3-1 defeat to City? We tied the game but then just decided to bend over and take it from behind like we’ve done so many times not just in previous seasons but this one as well. So it’s not all on Wenger. Stick to facts, mate.

  99. TR7

    ‘And nothing you’ve said changes the fact that none of those guys think, as you and your camp do, that Kroenke is (or has been) the principal problem at AFC.’

    Playing camp-camp on Internet ? Childish

  100. Bob N16

    Bamford,

    Our squad is not good enough.

    This position has been caused by poor management over the last 5 years. With Wenger and Gazidis gone, the last responsible person who remains is Kroenke, the owner who has had ultimate power and authority over this whole period.

    Now Kroenke, who loves the self -sustaining model that he inherited, has overseen the appointment of a manager who appears willing to operate under financial constraints. This means the likliehood is that it’s potentially going to take years to start competing. His appointees go on about the self-sustaining model when we all know drastic surgery is required.

    You push the line, wait and see: most of us wonder how many years of his ownership it’s going to take before we feel that we’re heading in a positive direction. Why do you defend the indefensible? I can only assume you don’t feel secure as a minority on a blog that you inhabit on a daily basis and as we have an American owner you project your insecurities by defending a fellow American.

    For what it’s worth I have nothing against Americans per se, my wife is half American and I have had many happy visits to your country. Trump, and all he represents, is awful, but there we go!

  101. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    Seems the obvious escaped you. I referred to the ownership managing to negotiate Graham (a great) to Wenger (the greatest) in response to Banford asking what the previous ownership did that Stan hasn’t.

    Thought it was fairly simple illustration of a competent ownership navigating the club and showing their ability to lead.

    Obviously you’ve missed the point entirely and decided to jump on something in an attempt to be a smart arse. Swing and a miss.

  102. Champagne charlie

    Banford

    Where are you on that list of Kroenke positives? Should’ve been able to rattle off a few at least by now, you’ve answered a few others since.

    Is this some of that ‘ignoring comments you have no answers to’ stuff you were berating Alex for apparently doing?

  103. Un na naai

    BamfordYou’re putting your credibility on the line for the indefensible

    Victorious

    What?? Credibility?? Haha
    He lost that the day he threatened to go and follow Real Madrid in a tantrum because we were “only” top 3/4
    Hahaha
    Or the day he said thought that our fa cup defeats to inferior opposition were during wemger’s reign

    Every bit as bad as not knowing wether or not we had an owner before kroenke came in and fucked up our club.

    Or every single time he cries like a fucking 4 year old girl and begs Pedro to bam someone for showing the cunt up.

    He’s just another chubby bitter old, aging hippy who’s been left behind.

  104. Un na naai

    Bamford

    Wooooo triggered
    TR7 got you there boy. Me think the lady doth protest too much…..

    Hmmmmm….what is your link to Silent Stan then? What are you up to Bamford? Who put you up to this?

  105. Upstate Gooner

    Red
    The fact is that we didn’t have a single shot in the second half, never mind a shot on target. How is that for trivia?

  106. PhD2020

    Champagne charlieFebruary 9, 2019 18:30:38

    The numbskull should very well know by now,especially being an academic and graduate of an ivy league university(so he claims),that the onus or burden of proof is on him to furnish the evidence in order to defend his point of view regarding the positives that Kroenke has brought to the table.

    Not for the numbskull ,to tell others to go on a fact finding mission at his behest,because he simply can’t list the positives at that juncture.

    Sometimes,you get the feeling that he thinks he’s the CEO of BS Inc.(an imaginary company in his head) ordering others around without pay,to do his donkey work.Or maybe he sees himself as their teacher handing out assignments?

    Either way,it’s comical.
    Have a good evening. 🙂

  107. omar

    2018/17-
    Played- 26
    Won- 13
    Draw- 6
    Lost- 7
    Goals For- 51
    Goals Against-35
    Goal Diff- 16
    POINTS- 45

    2018/19
    Played- 26
    Won- 15
    Draw- 5
    Lost- 6
    Goals For- 53
    Goals Against- 37
    Goal Diff- 16
    POINTS- 50

  108. Thorough

    English is my borrowed language. Second or third I think. Therefore, I struggle with words. However, after today I know the meaning of the word ‘Ordeal’. That match was atrocious. I’ll trash 4 of those 11 and bring in the u-23s if I were the coac. Nobody can convince me swapping Mavro and Saka for Mustafi and Iwobi respectively wouldn’t have made us better.
    As much as I like Emery I think he’s a moron. We have no first team winger yet we have Saka and Amaechi pulling up trees in the u-23s, yet they don’t make the bench. I would have removed Iwobi after that 10th minute miss. How long does Iwobi have to fluff his lines before we give Saka a chance.

  109. Marko

    Wrnger was supposed to be a master at developing youth when in truth he couldn’t develop a hard on in a porno flick

    Damn. Bringing his flaccid penis into it. The question is who is going to jump into Arsene’s defense on this one. Limp dick…my money’s on Vic taking offence

  110. Redtruth

    Upstate
    “The fact is that we didn’t have a single shot in the second half, never mind a shot on target. How is that for trivia?”

    All Wenger signings to blame..FACT

  111. Dissenter

    Throrough
    “We have no first team winger yet we have Saka and Amaechi pulling up trees in the u-23s, yet they don’t make the bench. I would have removed Iwobi after that 10th minute miss. How long does Iwobi have to fluff his lines before we give Saka a chance.”

    I agree with this sentiment.

  112. HillWood

    I didn’t get to watch the match today but I’m getting the impression we didn’t exactly set the world alight

  113. Bamford10

    Champagne

    Well,I’m still looking for that post of gambon’s, but in the interim, I’ll list a few positive things Kroenke has done, IMO:

    1. He replaced Arsene Wenger (thank God!), when it was clear the latter was failing.

    2. He showed a great deal of respect for, and deference toward, the above, which if he hadn’t, he would have gotten all kinds of shit for.

    3. He has instituted a modern management/executive structure, incl. the creation of a DoF role (something Professor Dinosaur opposed). That is, he has helped to modernize and rationalize our management/executive structure.

    4. He has hired intelligent, competent, ambitious men to fill the various key management & executive roles.

    5. He has overseen the club while we have grown from £201 million in revenue (in 2007) to £388 million in revenue (in 2018). That’s nearly a doubling in revenue and size.

    6. In that time he has taken almost nothing out of the club, and the club has spent an enormous amount of money on both wages and transfer fees.

  114. Upstate Gooner

    Red
    All Wenger signings to blame..FACT.

    Are you for real? Torreira, Guendouzi, Lichsteiner, and Leno all started and finished that game. I’ve seen some trolls before but you definitely take the cake.

  115. Marko

    Seems the obvious escaped you. I referred to the ownership managing to negotiate Graham (a great) to Wenger (the greatest) in response to Banford asking what the previous ownership did that Stan hasn’t.

    Right but failed to mention Rioch (not so great). Interesting point though leaves Stan an opportunity to get the next appointment right.

  116. Marko

    Are you for real? Torreira, Guendouzi, Lichsteiner, and Leno all started and finished that game. I’ve seen some trolls before but you definitely take the cake.

    You cannot be taken seriously