Arsenal head out on the road this weekend after not winning in 6 games. Fear not, Emery knows what the double-flip is going down.
“My first critic is myself. We can make the top four, but we know it’s not easy.
“We are strong at home, but I think we need to do better away. We started very well, changing our mentality to get more points away. But now we need to recover our confidence and performance.
“Also we know defensively we need to do better. We tried to play with three and two centre-backs. Be passionate, be calm but above all work.”
Away form is an odd one. It’s all in the head. I find it interesting that something like that can impact elite athletes, you’d kind of think they were a bit above that? I understand the butterflies might be on fire in Istanbul, but at Huddersfield this Saturday, I’d hope less so?
We take on bottom of the table Huddersfield. They recently agreed to part ways with the excellent David Wagner. He was replaced by Dortmund first-team coach, Jan Siewart. Not sure I can speak about him with any sort of knowledge, so I won’t even try and Google research him. Huddersfield take chances on managers in the same way I would, and it’s paid dividends for little investment.
I have my doubts they’ll have enough to take down Arsenal at the weekend. We have Mikhi coming back into the fold, which I would hope could give us a little more width and creativity from wide positions. However, it’s clear that the most important thing is to keep a clean sheet. The team really needs to get back to basics. We were overrun by Cardiff at home a few weeks ago, that’s not a good look.
Emery needs to get his season back on track, he needs to get him best players on the pitch and he needs to find a system that he can roll with for more than 24 minutes.
Finally, Hector B has dropped a fan TV channel. He’s talking about his surgery, sure, I love that, but be real, when is the high-end fashion chat dropping? I wanna see the latest Balenciaga sneakers I can’t by because I’m old. I want to know about OFF-White print shirts. I wanna know when the male sarong is coming back?
Good luck sir, and don’t get downbeat about the muppets in the comments.
JUST KIDDING GUYS, see you in the comments. x
Marko
You always steamroll into topics arguing points that nobody has raised. I didn’t say anything that you’ve argued against there, all trademark ramblings from the resident teenager.
“You’re a fool” were your first three words today, so I’ll take this opportunity to tell you to wind your fucking neck in when talking about who is or isn’t argumentative on this site you pleb.
Nelson
Compare it to boxing.
I bet Torreira and Lacazette know how to fight. They love a good scrap. Infact I would go as far as to say they are probably seriously good boxers.
The others are more posey type players, pretending to be tough. Mustafi and Xhaka, on the other hand, are basically headless chickens, going in swinging not knowing what they’re fudging doing.
Weagle
It’s the nature of where we are, or always have been in modern times at least. We should be Dortmund on steroids in terms of approach, but our strategy is indescribable at best.
You’re right though, no good being ‘smart’ and going after mediocre talent at 15 mil vs dogs bollocks at 25 mil. The cheap option needs to still have the scope or we’re setting ourselves up for an extended spell as also-rans.
I can see the poster in question went very quiet yesterday when it was posted that Rafa took over a team that won the treble and by winter was screaming for money to be spent. That’s the Benitez we were told distinguished himself through out his career by working miracles with nothing. He spent 220m at Liverpool when 220m was a heck of a lot of money He is taking the crap he is at Newcastle because everyone knows he is past his sell by date. Fancy spending your time shitting on Emery when your bright idea is Benitez and… Read more »
it was for anyone interested in mocking the calls for a style and strategy to be visible along the rebuild.
It’s clear he has that though. He likes to play with wingers two holding midfielders etc etc only he inherited a team with none of these things and needs more time and one window to address that. I’ve got no doubt had he been given serious investment or inherited at least one cunt who could beat a man in the final third you’d see the kind of thing he trying to do.
Tbf to Vieira, Nice are absolutely crying out for a goalscorer. They sold Plea in the summer to Gladbach and Balotelli hasn’t turned up at all this season and has promptly fucked off to Marseille after 4 months of sulking.
Also lost an important midfield piece in Seri.
Wasn’t given anything of note to reinvest into the team.
Given this context, he’s actually done quite well to have Nice sitting in 9th considering they’ve scored just 18 goals in the league which is beyond hopeless.
M’Bappe has scored as many goals as their entire squad in just 16 apps.
Marko save your breath
Emery’s playing philosophy has been explained on here extensively by Paulinho and in very clear terms.
The problem is we do not have the players for it and as a clever tactician he has been making do with what he has to keep us competitive on the promise we will address the squad come summer.
I’ll take this opportunity to tell you to wind your fucking neck in when talking about who is or isn’t argumentative on this site you pleb.
Yeah you dickhead you knew exactly what you were doing and sure enough you started out another day “not” looking for an argument. Good for you man
Eagle fair enough. I think he will just be one of those managers who around mid table teams doing an okay job.
Henry on the other hand may never get a management job ever again.
I do not buy the idea we need an ex Arsenal player as manager before we can move ahead because he knows the club. What exactly is there to know about Arsenal, how many of those they know have survived the revolving doors
Receding
You don’t get where I’m coming from.
OGS is/was considered a poor to average manager. He has gone in and shown that you don’t need to be this master tactician on £10m a year, with an incredible cv, to make things work.
He is a MU fit and the fans can relate to that. He is also a perfect gent.
He deserves so much credit and yet there are a still a few out there ( Paul Ince for example) who feel they could do the same.
Poppycock!
In fact 3 matches aside out of 23, of which included PSG and Lyon, Nice haven’t conceded more than 1 goal.
9 clean sheets in there.
We’ve kept just 4 clean sheets in 25 matches.
I will leave it at this I would suggest rather than take up the customery stance that Emery should be doing more with the squad why not look at the squad he inherited and go from there. I know it might lead you down a dark path where you might have to criticize the previous manager (terrible I know) but he inherited a squad that had literally problems in every single position bar CF. No wingers, no ball winners in CM/DM’s, problems at full back and CB position and in need of a keeper. All with a summer budget of… Read more »
Receding I was in theatre yesterday you sanctimonious weasel, but I can’t only assume you dredged up whatever dirt you felt suited your POV because you’re in such defence Emery at all hours of the day? I’ve only ever maintained Benitez is a better option than Emery, I don’t much care if that’s not for you. It only seems like it’s you that has such an issue to mention it daily. Move on you fucking melon, your unreal coach in Emery managed to derail PSG winning a 5th consecutive league title when he rocked up in France so maybe save… Read more »
Iwobi this … Iwobi that… Iwobi is shit, end of the debate. He’s worse than Gervinho ever was for us. I wholeheartedly agree with Mozil, he’s had his chances. A loan isn’t gonna help. He needs to be sold, and ESR/Nelson to take his place.
Marko
Didn’t realise posting something as basic as Ole talking about a vision was inciting an argument, seems a few on here have tracing paper for skin. I’ll remember that the next time someone posts a link that vindicates a point they make, that’s “looking for an argument”.
Or I could just blanket that under Marko being a moron and call it a day. I fancy the latter.
Graham i think many of you are really underestimating the talent United have in their ranks ……really you are.
Mourinho stifled and destroyed this players with his play not to loose mentality.
I am not in anyway saying Ole has not done a great job, but i believe they will be tougher tests for United.
At the start of the season everyone had United in the top four because they had the squad for it..remind me how many were certain we will finish top four??
CC
Yep and it’s why ultimately we’ve traditionally been a selling club whereas United have held on to all of their star talent besides the single case of Ronaldo who’s a pantheon all-time great and a freak exception.
The early noughties-Invincibles year we pulled off a great job at keeping our most crucial talent mind.
We cut them all loose far too soon after that with the exception of Henry who we ought to have sold in 2006 really. Head didn’t look in it that last season and it saw his value diminish greatly.
Upstate I agree. Iwobi needs to be sold. All I am saying is we should give him a year on loan in Germany to see if that increases his transfer value first.
RH
Yeah I’m with you it would be a bonus if they had previous affiliation to the club but it’s certainly not necessary.
Pep, Poch, Klopp the list goes on.
I was in theatre
Nurse? Can’t be a doctor with that temperament.
Receding I was in theatre yesterday you sanctimonious weasel,
I really couldn’t care less where you were yesterday, and yesterday was quite pleasant on here. No one felt a need to lash out or call names when challenged. they simply debated their points.
And yes i will keep calling you out on Benitez, you can go hug a transformer if it irks you.
Weagle
One of our biggest errors in judgement for me in Wengers time, dismantling that squad with such ferocity. Should’ve had a few of those lads remain another 3/4 years o blood the youngsters but instead we seemed to hit a harsh reset and it simply didn’t work as hoped.
Champagne charlie
“Move on you fucking melon, your unreal coach in Emery managed to derail PSG winning a 5th consecutive league title when he rocked up in France.”
Monaco won the league with 95 points scoring 107 goals they also made it to the Semi Finals of the Champions league….you fucking cretin….
Receding
You couldn’t care less where I was but make a point to attempt to mock my absence as some dodge of something. Solid continuity, you mean you only care when you can use it as some vague dig because you’re a man child.
Marko, you know nothing about me, my temperament, my anything outside of football chat. Don’t pretend to either, you’ll only embarrass yourself further.
Champagne charlie
“Move on you fucking melon, your unreal coach in Emery managed to derail PSG winning a 5th consecutive league title when he rocked up in France.”
Monaco won the league with 95 points scoring 107 goals they also made it to the Semi Finals of the Champions league….you fucking cretin…..
Red
Yea I’m quite aware thanks and have defended Emery’s first season against over the top criticism before. In this case i’m pointing out, in response to Benitez taking over a treble winning Inter side, that it doesn’t always equate to continued success. Peps Bayern too…
I’ll take PV4. Let’s start an Emery out PV4 in campaign right now because it really doesn’t matter what Emery does from hereon in, the guy is unfancied and unpopular so it’s better he just goes, and I think we can all agree every last one of us that we will all unite behind PV4 and finally have a united fan base for the first time since 2005.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mikel-arteta-man-city-guardiola-15797457
Another one to get the fannies twitching..
2005 is a bit harsh, I think that most were still happy with the club up until 2008 because you have to factor in that we were a cunt hair away from winning the CL in 2006.
Early on in 2008 things were fairly rosy too where we were playing arguably the best football in Europe and certainly the PL and were top of the PL,
Rest is history obviously.
bennydevito
You’re probably right.
The days of BS/OTTmanagers are over.
That’s right, managers who feel they are superior specimens are dead and buried.
Maybe all clubs should consider this when hiring in future.
Lampard and Gerrard are doing well and we all know that, one day, they’ll be back home.
PV4 is made for us because he is one of us.
Hard to believe that CL SF beatdown by United at the Emirates was nearly 10 years ago.
Definitely around the time that AW lost a good chunk of the fanbase.
PV4 is made for us because he is one of us
Yet he was the face of Man City for many years behind the scene
As they football development executive he supervised the systematic purchase of most of our players one of the reasons we are were we are today. Effectively reducing us to a feeder team for the elite
One of our own
PV4 was always my choice, irrespective of experience.
I’d have him back in a heartbeat.
Diego Simeone , Lucian Favre
Spare me the Patric Viera talk if your aim is to become a competitive club on a shoe string budget .
@WE –
“Hard to believe that CL SF beatdown by United at the Emirates was nearly 10 years ago.”
Remember it like it was yesterday, it was around this time I had enough of Wenger.
Also regarding Vieira, not a chance for me, if the club does decide to pick a new manager in the next year or two (Which they won’t) It needs to be an established big name.
WengerEagle
Best football…lol
A Man Utd reserve team beat Arsenal’s first team 4-0 in the FA Cup in February 2008…bringing more shame to the club
Has Steve Bould been sacked yet?
Our at least moved to the Gonneraus role?
Not surprised Champagne is a doctor. This was my guess some time ago based on something he said, I think, about his hours. If he is a surgeon, this makes even more sense, as there is no group of professionals who more overrate their intelligence than surgeons. People talk about the “God complex” some surgeons develop; more to the point, I’d say, is that many surgeons think they’re the smartest person in the room simply because they’re a surgeon. This is very Charlie.
“Hard to believe that CL SF beatdown by United at the Emirates was nearly 10 years ago.” I remember going to watch the first leg (Old Trafford) at the Emirates on the big screens. We lost one nil but did fairly well. Then they just blew us away at home, and Wenger just didnt know what to say. That was the season when Wenger took a notable step back in ability. We nearly won the PL the year before, and Wenger just lost it, sold all our central midfielders and clearly just didnt know how to put a good team… Read more »
The slip by Kieran Gibbs….
QNA
What a ridiculous argument. The POV — that we should pursue quality at a number of price points (10m, 25m, 35m, 70m), not just the top price point — was “wrong” because WENGER failed to do this properly? Sorry, but no. Others, including Liverpool, have done this and done this successfully.
No other Club has talked about and focused upon money as much as Arsenal. Result: Man C, Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs have overtaken us in both revenue and profit.
It’s hard to decide which removal ought to come first, Wenger’s statue or Silent Stan.
PV4 in. I would be happy with him. After Adams, my choice for all time Arsenal Captain.
It would be nice to have a fan base United once.
Banford
Nobody cares what I do, and what I do isn’t relevant. Neither is your mystic meg approach to detailing my character based on a profession.
Thanks for the input though, could you detail Capricorn’s next? Ta
*united for once
Bamford. Yes mate. Because different price points naturally come in anyway. You seriously suggesting I had a fixed identical price for every player I mentioned. You really are a numpty. The big players of the last 10 years came at all of those different price points. The problem is that we set our limit below the market rate that the top clubs were. Even clubs with less money than us were paying more. Zenit, Athletico, Monaco, Juve, Napoli, AC Milan, … Let me repeat. Any transfer policy that implicitly assumes that all the other big clubs in the world are… Read more »
While I appreciate the romance of having a former player in charge, you can swivel if that’s the primary characteristic behind their appointment.
Want to unite the fans? Develop a strategy, hire the right people to fulfill that strategy, and blossom together as a group on the way to fulfilling that clear ambition.
Who the people are is of little relevance, what they do on the other hand can’t be overstated.
*like Dortmund and Monaco did.
Don’t pretend to either, you’ll only embarrass yourself further.
I can safely say to a high degree that you are at the very least a massive dickhead. How else do you explain how you act on here.
I’m delightful by the way
Joke Friday – Three couples are trying to get married at the same church. There is a young couple, a middle-aged couple, and an elderly couple. The three couples meet with the priest and discuss when they can get married. “If you wish to get married in my church, you must all go one month without having sex,” says the priest. One month later the three couples return to the church and talk to the priest. He then asks the elderly couple, “Have you completed the month with sex?” “Yes we have, it was easy,” replies the elderly couple. “How… Read more »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-city-manager-after-guardiola-14689881.amp
Circa 2010 was around the time when the well earned good will towards wenger started to get scrutinized a little bit
Not only had we stopped winning trophies but the club (and manager) were making increasingly poor and bizarre decisions on a day to day basis.
I extended my faith in him until around 2010 but by 2012 it became beyond dispute that wenger had no idea how to turn us back into a serious club so any remaining good will I had evaporated during his increasingly disrespectful press conferences against the arsenal fan base
Joke Friday: Marko
China
Agree, We were still a team and a half in 2008, just missing a couple of additions to take us over the edge to a fully fledged competitor. From then on the good will and hope faded because looking back it was a clear case of us going in circles.
Well opiniated Graham 62
“”PV4 is made for us because he is one of us.””
I totally endorse this premise
Arsenal is unique.
We need Arsenal people involved coaching/ figureheading the club UNLESS they are exceptional outsiders ( ie Wenger quality )
This is Something Emery and Raul will never be.
They stink to the high heavens of mediocrity.
How much longer will our club accept this inevitable slide into Watford or Seville lite…..
Our best days will come again
But not with these 2 at the helm!
gambon Yes, same for me. The season ending after the season of Eduardo’s leg break should have been when Wenger left. Gallas in the centre circle and all that. Thing is I was moaning about Wenger’s lack of defensive nous and lack of tactics as far back as 2002. Our inability to defend a title and conceding the same type of goals from suicidal high lines was really bugging me and I noticed a stark difference in how we defended, especially from corners. I remember under George Graham we always had men on the posts or at least the back… Read more »
You could probably choose at least a dozen instances over the last 10-13 years where Wenger could/should have been sacked. Countless embarrassing defeats and failures to address the squad in the transfer window. Not to mention the barren years.
The Sala tragedy and now this. So sad…
https://www.yahoo.com/news/10-people-died-fire-brazil-soccer-team-complex-105054591–spt.html
CG,
You say you would only accept outsiders as long as they are exceptional and have Wenger quality, but Wenger was awful since at least 2010 and had won less as a manager before he joined Arsenal than Emery had when he joined Arsenal, so how come you accepted Wenger the unknown who had won less than Emery but won’t accept Emery?
Marko
What were the barren years please?
My, you sound so bloody spoilt.
Comical really..
Marko Regarding wenger, he should have gone several seasons before he did, but to be fair, for at least 6 or 7 seasons after we moved he didn’t have anywhere near the resources made available to managers such as mourihno and fergie. In fact if you look at that period, wenger spent consistently less than spurs and Liverpool and always finished above them. The rather tragic irony is that when he was finally given a bit of cash to spend, that’s when he lost his managerial mojo. Apart from when we played in the FA Cup anyway. Those FA Cup… Read more »
CG,
You’re the comical one. When Wenger took over he had won less than Emery and was referred to as Arsene who? Yet you now say you would only accept an outsider with exceptional quality, Wenger quality? What quality would that be then? Terrible defending? Terrible talent spotting? Paying over the top prices for terrible players? Selling our best players to our rivals for terrible prices?
Unless you caveat Wenger quality if 1998 – 2005 you’re the comical one.
Bd
I go into book shops from time to time. ( no jokes ,please)
When you are in the sports section
Biograhies of Wenger scream out at you..
His tenure will be looked upon as time goes by as monumentally historic…
I accept- he stayed tooooooooo long.
But there won’t be books on Emery in the future.
We need a man/men ( Wenger circa 1998- 2014) of his calibre to get this club back in track.
If you think these 2 are the answer.
You are deluding yourself..
( I think deep down – you know that, too)
I also admire and respect PV4 because he fell out with Wenger.
He saw through all the crap long before some of our fans did.
As for the MC connection…… who fudging cares.
PV4 wasn’t the reason so many of our players moved to Manchester.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.
PV4 was a a true leader.
He would not take any shit on the field and off.
I think with age he has mellowed which is normal
However, he was also one that I espoused for coach. not that im anti emery at all.
Regarding wenger, he should have gone several seasons before he did, but to be fair, for at least 6 or 7 seasons after we moved he didn’t have anywhere near the resources made available to managers such as mourihno and fergie. Moved in 06 I personally would say he had an excuse while penny pinching for like 5 years and that’s absolutely it. The FA Cup isn’t taboo it’s just not what we moved stadium for and going nearly 10 years without a trophy to then win ones against a piss poor Villa or Hull didn’t justify keeping him around… Read more »
The whole damned Gazidas recruitment strategy of the picking a new coach- was an unmitigated disaster. Him leaving so soon after – compounded this. From the leaking to Arteta to the appointment of Emery- a total inept disaster. We desperately need a reset – we are in a quagmire of dung. A New process is required at the end of the season ( every season – in fact) (Even if that means – ‘re- interviewing Emery and Raul about their positions.) No way -should they be allowed to plough on – without serious questions about where we are heading. Sticking… Read more »
CG, You may be right but until Emery’s given time we won’t know. Plus at the time Wenger only had 1 dominant team with bigger finances to deal with – Man Utd, whereas Emery has City, Chelsea, Liverpool, utd and even Spurs to contend with, an also the gap between the top teams and those lower in the league is a lot closer too – with the extra money in the game now compared to when Wenger took over, Emery’s job is monumentally bigger and the landscape has changed drastically. Saying that out loud actually I think you could be… Read more »
Gambon
“To this day I still think we should’ve sacked him at the end of the 2009 season”
Spot on.
Bd
He is Spanish!
If Vieira is being lined up as Pep’s eventual successor can I ask why the untapped genius of Arteta is being overlooked?
His tenure will be looked upon as time goes by as monumentally historic…
Hmmm depends on who you ask. Certainly historic to be a manager at the same club for so long but bar one season there’s really nothing that monumental about him. 3 league titles in 22 years isn’t monumental. 9 years without a trophy isn’t monumental. One good showing in Europe as opposed to numerous embarrassments isn’t monumental.
Marko
Looking at arsenal’s net spend and the exodus and /or selling off of our best players there were seasons during that period we had no business even finishing 4th.
Regarding the FA cups, I enjoyed all three.
A cup win is a cup win. It’s not belittled by who you play in the final.
Marko
Liverpool have not won the league for 25 years
Spurs have not won the league for 50 years.
(City and Chelsea would not have won the league once between them- if they had not been bankrolled…)
Wengers achievement were meritous.
They were exceptional- if the truth be told
He would have won more if Roman A not rolled his Russian roubles into town.!
Give the man his break.
He is a true Arsenal Legend.
But flawed like us all.
El Maestro
They already is a book out that on Unai Emery
Books mean very little
Marko It’s comments like those that expose your contemptuous and immature gaze. Wenger is the most successful Arsenal manager of all time, he doesn’t need to have a list of titles like Pep to garner the praise from Arsenal fans. He was sublime as Arsenal manager in all but the end where it tailed off to average and poor. What he did do was take over a somewhat bland club and give us great stature in the game as whole with a trademark and brand of fantastic football and awe inspiring players. He managed to navigate us through an incredibly… Read more »
Looking at arsenal’s net spend and the exodus and /or selling off of our best players there were seasons during that period we had no business even finishing 4th.
Yeah there was more than a couple times we finished 4th more because of a bottle job by Spurs or Liverpool than anything else. Again the point I’m making about the FA Cup wins were especially the Villa and Hull ones it was more a case of luck and favorable draws than a Wenger masterstroke. He was a poor manager at this time and those FA Cups didn’t change that
Charlie George Do you actually know you’re in denial? Your blaming Emery for things that were caused by our predecessor. “The quagmire of dung” you talk about was brought about because of Wenger( and to a degree Gazidis). Open your eyes. Where were you for the past decade? Down the “Dog and Duck” drowning your sorrows? OR, maybe, cheering on Wenger? Your perceptions on things are ludicrous. If it was up to me I’d lock Wenger in the tower and throw away the key. Sticking with Wenger was our mistake. Emery is being asked to clear up all the shite.… Read more »
Well said Champagne
Arsenals Charlies knows !
(George /Nicholas / and even paul Mersons variety!)
The guy who wrote The Professor actually hates Wenger and tells anyone who will listen he is a fraud.
FYI I don’t agree. Arsene Wenger is a legend
Marko “The FA Cup isn’t taboo it’s just not what we moved stadium for and going nearly 10 years without a trophy to then win ones against a piss poor Villa or Hull didn’t justify keeping him around really. The Chelsea one was a proper win though.” Showing your football ignorance again there Marko , no cup final is a given. I have seen Arsenal lose in cup finals against swindon( third division) ,Leeds (2 times) ipswich, West ham (2nd division) , Valencia Luton and Liverpool. Many bad experiences( and good) watching The Arsenal , so I will always appreciate… Read more »
This whole “Wenger should’ve gone years ago” talk is very amusing. I assume most of you here have jobs, right? What happens when you don’t do it or do it half arsed? I know what would happen to me – I’d get canned. So do you know why Wenger was in charge for 22 years? Because he actually did his job, and he did it well. The minute he stopped, he was fired. In all those “barren years” the objective was simple – top 4 (CL money), few player sales, balance the books, come out on top in profits. If… Read more »
He was here too long, that’s it, the rest is unbelievably positive in the history of Arsenal football club and you’re out of touch to think otherwise.
Did a good job alright. But 3 league titles in 22 years none back to back isn’t monumental. His showings in Europe were not monumental. Going nearly a decade without a trophy was not monumental. George Graham won 2 league titles in 9 years at Arsenal and a European trophy.
CC You disect everything and everyone with such precision on here. It must be so rewarding to be so perfect at everything you do, knowing how great you are and all that. I’m sure all your colleagues worship you and hang on to your every word. Congratulations! ————————————– Your perceptions on Wenger are spot on, upto, that is, around 2009. Thereafter, imo, my perceptions take precedence. He ruined it for me and I will never see him in the same light as you and others do on here. Deep down I think Wenger knows he cocked things up, although he… Read more »
Upstate Gooner
So so wrong.
The straw that broke the camel’s back was the defeat to Birmingham City in the Carling Cup. And to think Birmingham were also relegated that season have haven’t returned since makes it all the more comical.
I can’t remember the post match platitudes, but I do remember people on LG and in my circle, unbelievably , attempting to draw correlation to that shit show to what Utd and Chelsea were spending – as if that had any bearing on the match.
Wenger got a stay of execution and the rest of it was swept under the rug
Upstate gooner
Absolutely right, and the remit for Emery will the same.
Graham62
How so? I’d love an explanation. The guy was making what 8, 9mil a year? You’re telling me if he was doing a shitty job he’d lasted this long?
C’mon CG man you know what I mean! I take serious issue with people being judged on their nationalities and criticised using derogatory national stereotyping rather than their technical ability and experience. But, I want to draw a line under that and move on. Half way through writing my last post and rebuttal to you I had what I can only describe as an epiphany. It suddenly dawned on me what you’re getting at but I’ve been so irked by what I consider to be irrelevant and offensive comments by you, I haven’t been able to rationale clearly. I’m comparing… Read more »
Graham et al droning on about Wenger……again. Maybe I’ll dip in later.
Certainly rubbed more than a couple up the wrong way here but respectfully 3 league titles in 22 years isn’t that amazing. Maybe if he left sooner certain opinions on him would have changed but tacking on an extra 5-7 years did more than enough to tarnish his reputation. I mean are we going to remember his 3 league titles in 7 years or his 0 in 14 years? Ferguson in 25 years had 13 league titles that’s monumental. Mourinho in his first 3 seasons at Chelsea won 2 league titles. Obviously not the same. Look he did a great… Read more »
benny
Bravo, excellent post! And I think that’s exactly what CG and the like are trying to say but sometimes can’t get their point across.
Pierre
Agreed, shouldn’t take winning a Cup Final or three for granted, but is that why we moved to the Emirates to compete against Sutton and Lincoln and gloat about beating Wigan, Hull City and Villa.
I wanted to see progress. We never got that. We fell further and further behind the top tier clubs, whilst our hierarchy gloated in self gratification.
Like yourself I have some fantastic and not so fantastic FA Cup memories, but I would have preferred the occasional PL or CL memories to have taken precedence over the past twelve years…….. wouldn’t you?
Bennydevito
You’re missing the point.
What arsenal needs is better players.
That costs money and doggedly and counter productively persevering with self sustainability just won’t cut it.
Look at solskyaer. Yes, he’s done well. Maybe he’s the real deal but look at the players he gets to work with.
Carts
“The straw that broke the camel’s back was the defeat to Birmingham City in the Carling Cup. And to think Birmingham were also relegated that season have haven’t returned since makes it all the more comical.”
It was a blip, can happen to anyone. I remember mighty City losing to an already relegated Wigan in FA Cup final.
Wenger’s militant dismantling of Arsenal coincided with his obsession of Barcelona.
I miss Keyser (unless he’s operating under a new alias) cos I remember he was adamant that the reason we went from rangy-athletic players to shorter-more technical players was cos we athletic player came with a premium that we could afford.
You couldn’t make it up LOL
Graham62
I agree but big stadium or not you have to spend big to compete.
BobN16
Sorry, I just can’t help myself.
Upstate
yeah the same way losing to Bradford and Blackburn was also a blip
Losing a one off when is one thing, losing a one off in a final to a dire team when the manager was already showing signs of delusion is another thing
Hull FA Cup win. All our games were at home. Mind you Liverpool and Spurs at home. Villa FA Cup win our only tough game was United in the 5th round. The Chelsea win all our games were away from home bar the quarter final against Lincoln City and we beat decent sides in City and Chelsea at Wembley. A very good Cup win that. And that’s what I meant
Not competing for a PL title or even remotely getting close to competing for a European trophy since 2006 is scandalous.
Note I highlighted “competing for” not winning.