Transfer budget leaks. Why?

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TWO DAYS WITH NO POST.

Sorry, I was crushed by advertising challenges. If you don’t plug those leaks, eventually there will be a flood my friends. Let that be a potent lesson to those sleeping in wet tents.

Right, what have we today?

John Cross and Sami Mokbel both reckon AFC has £45m to spend this summer.

David Ornstein told Arsecast there’s £100m to spend.

A CLASH OF THE MIGHTY ITK.

To be absolutely straight with you, I had heard the lower number from the same places that I hear good things from.

As Gambon from the comments pointed out, it’s way too fucking early to talking budgets.

We could finish 4th and earn an extra £40m next season… or we could finish 8th and not make Europe at all.

So here’s where the whole thing gets a bit blurred… yes, we should be able to spend a lot of money, but Sami Mokbel is very well connected, and say what you want about John Cross, the man knows all the tea ladies behind the scenes. What I’m saying here is the club is briefing a low number and they are doing it on purpose.

Why?

Well, they could be greasing the wheels to sell a major player that won’t be popular. Lacazette, our super-saucy-swag-machine of a striker could be on the way out because let’s be real, he’s the most saleable asset we have going into the summer.

Stan K could be keen to rein in our expenditure now he’s taken us private. Remember the e-mail for money saving that went to all the staff? That could point to tighter days.

It could be that absolute Arsenal classic: ‘Why would you tell people you are rich?’

The strategy is unclear and the leak feels very odd after Josh K literally told Jonathan Wilson he wanted to win the Champions League a few days ago.

Anyway, if the money is £45m, it’s going to be a tough summer.

Interesting that Ornstein also said there were disagreements about Suarez, and that the club really fancied Perisic.

The good times are certainly not going to land if that’s the future of our deals.

I’m even a little worried about the Monchi hire. The jury is out on the Roma tenure despite a great run the Champions League. I’d argue that he oversold after his first season, now his team are languishing a bit. Everything looks a little bit like we’re loading the club up with Europa League talent, which doesn’t leave me feeling even slightly aroused.

Still, one thing is for sure, it does seem like the reason for not purchasing was related to value more than cash flow. We could easily have dropped a madness last month. We didn’t, which shows we learnt a lesson.

Right, I have to go back to my world of hell and cry into a branded hoodie.

Big love to you all, thanks for standing by me during times of pain. x

P.S. I thought this infographic was amazing for how misleading it is.

Klopp didn’t spend £70m and took over Oct 15, spending £5.1m in his first transfer window.

That number for Poch is from his Southampton days.

Koeman dropped 45 in his first 24 for Southampton and didn’t make the list.

Conte smashed the list and was available last summer. What? I’m just saying? Damn, you are so touchy…

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Boomslang

Trofee

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Tr4phy

DM

Not a chance that Lacazette will be sold in the summer. Silly even talking about it. Mark my words.

(Hope I’m not wrong now! ha)

Pierre

I’m quite interested to what Emery’s team selection and formation will be this weekend. Lately against lower teams he has been starting with a 4-3-3 with 3 what I would call defensive/ holding midfielders. The absence of Xhaka may mean he looks at things slightly different. Torreira and Guendouzi should start in midfield and I would imagine we will play 4 at the back . If Saurez starts ahead of Mhkitaryan and Ozil as the CAM it will tell us all we need to know as to why Saurez was brought in . Emery needs to get the balance in… Read more »

New Drew

On those rumours at the moment we have a £45m budget for this summer………… On the face of it this sounds terrible but with some Financial Planning we could easily have a great summer…looking at players out of contract this summer we will/could get rid of: Ramsey, Cech, Lichtsteiner, Welbeck, Monreal and Jenkinson, a combined wage of 480k/week (c.£25m/year). Add on to this getting Ozil out (unfortunately I think the only way we offload without paying any of his wages is with no transfer fee) that’s an extra £350k/week (c£18m). Sales of players who are clearly not up to it… Read more »

Pierre

Arsenal are in an excellent position to qualify for the champions league finishing in the top 4. Our league run in is the easiest , we have been knocked out of the FA cup and League cup a and we have an easy draw in the Europa league so the players should not be fatigued at all. Chelsea have a league cup final v city , an FA cup tie v United and a more difficult run in . United have a difficult run in , an FA cup tie v Chelsea( more games if they qualify) and are in… Read more »

Un na naai

Dm

I agree. It would be a massive step backwards to sell our only real match winner

Un na naai

Pierre

We are competing for that spot. It’s just that certain posters are trying to feather the nest to protect their man from criticism should he fail to achieve that goal.
We’ve signed 11 new players in that last 18 months. The team is 50% new.

Leno
Lichtsteiner
Mavrapanos
Sokratis
Kolasinac
Torreira
Guendouzi
Suarez
Mkhitaryan
Aubameyang
Lacazette

Pierre

If we had started the season poorly with 6 defeats in 7 weeks and then from November until now went on a 22 game unbeaten run, it would be fair to say that Emery’s football philosophy would be working as the team would be showing improvement in results and performance. Instead what’s happened is, we started the season well with a 22 match unbeaten run but have regressed since December with 6 defeats in 7 weeks . Maybe this is an inclination that Emery’s football philosophy is having a detrimental effect on the team. Our football ,unlike earlier in the… Read more »

Redtruth

Leno – mediocre
Lichtsteiner- pensioner
Mavrapanos- unknown
Sokratis- 3rd tier
Kolasinac- cumbersome
Torreira- terrier
Guendouzi- quality
Suarez- loan
Mkhitaryan- shit
Aubameyang- overrated
Lacazette- poor man Wiltord

Redtruth

If the team are not fit for purpose then Emery has to get rid and build a new one.

Mozil

Redtruth – Bum

Graham62

Pierre

I would agree with you provided we had a fully fit and functional squad.

As it stands, we don’t. Hence, top 4 will be a tough ask.

Mozil

Emery was supposed to be the Manager who comes in and steadies the ship before we go in the market for a top gun.

“Lets give him a chance” Game aint based on sympathy.

Pierre

Un
The early season form is proof that the team/squad is good enough , it’s down to the manager to find the answer .

The worrying sign for me is that in all of those 6 defeats , the team surrendered without a fight ..
The team created absolutely nothing in the last 20 minutes in any of those defeats.

Pierre

Graham
All our strikers and offensive players ( except welbeck) are fit .
Our midfielders are fit with xhaka only having a minor injury .
defensively We have Kosielny , Monreal ,mustafi , mavropanos, Kolasinac , jenkinson and lichsteiner fit with sokratis and MAN back soon .

No excuses.

Pierre

AMN*

Redtruth

The rot coincided with the return of Koscielny.
Emery needs to flush out Wenger’s deadwood before putting his own stamp on the team.

Graham62

Pedro

Whatever transfer budget Emery is given, whether it’s £45m or £100m is irrelevant at this moment in time.

A decent well rounded owner, with a conscience and a progressive mindset, would say to Emery –

“Look, we/I made a humongous mistake with the Ozil/Sanchez debacle. It was ultimately my responsibility. Unfortunately, I was led down the garden path. Because of this, I will put an additional £120m in the kitty, on top of our proposed transfer budget, to help you rectify the situation”

Now wouldn’t that be a nice gesture.

Champagne charlie

Pedro

Found that list of managers stat to be such a contrived attempt to paint things a certain way.

24 games is never going to be enough for huge discrepancies in points totals. Managers are inherently judged on performances, style, approach, feeling around the club, which I’m yet to see a table of.

gonsterous

is that really a picture of gambon ? I feel bad now, for the amount of times I said bad things to him. I have nothing but respect for the senior citizens of any country. Thank you gambon for fighting in the war to stop Hitler.

Emiratesstroller

Pedro The hard facts are that Arsenal’s revenue for financial year ending 31st May 2018 was £408 million, which was down on previous year when we played in CL but significantly better than figures produced by Deloittes. Second we know that Arsenal’s revenues will rise next year by between £40-50 million. Emirates and Rwanda deals came on stream this year which is estimated to be between £15-20 million and Adidas will then increase our equipment sponsorship by £30 million. None of these figures factor in other sponsorship deals or increase in tv revenues. We know that Arsenal’s annual expenditure on… Read more »

Bergkamp63

According to that info graphic, Emery is doing pretty well given the spend and the points total so far !

Redtruth

It’s a results business and managers are ultimately judged on results not performances.

Champagne charlie

Tell that to Mourinho who finished 2nd last season with United and had funds withheld over the summer because their fans could see he was offering up nothing of a future.

Arsnil

Redruth “Mavrapanos- unknown” and why? Played a couple of games last year and looked lke what we have been crying our for for years. Had a bad injury early season but has been back for two months now and has been used for twenty minutes vs Man. City. Now it’s not as if we are coming down with quality centre halves. But game after game the likes of Lichsteiner has been played ahead of him. A player now way over the top and his legs are gone. Dissenter was on about “we aren’t at the training and don’t see what… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

Arsnil

He hasn’t been matchfit for 2 months though, he has played a game and a half for the u23s and 20 minutes for the first team in the last 2 weeks so he’s getting there.

Think we will see him more in the PL now since he’s not in the europa league squad.

Guns of Hackney

Emery out.

Bamford10

Pedro

Good post, but you have to police this place better. Un Na is ruining the comments. See Midwest and Kristoman’s on the previous.

Micheal

Arsenal FC is at a cross-roads in its history. It is abundantly clear that the current squad is not equipped for the top tier of English footy, largely as a result of the well-aired failures of the past. While I accept that money is not everything in football, it is blindingly obvious that substantial new investment in higher quality personnel will be required to get AFC back to the top tier. Stroller is correct in stating that “…the limits to the club’s net spend …is down to self inflicted austerity rather than financial constraints.” What is plainly missing from the… Read more »

HighburyLegend

“so the players should not be fatigued at all.”

lol Pierre, excepted Ozil, of course.

Arsnil

Freddie Ljungberg – I understand where you are coming from but how do you get anybody match fit. By giving them matches. The fact that he has been left out of the Europa League squad is just hari kiri stuff.

Emiratesstroller

Michael

Josh Kroenke makes it clear that the family are ambitious that Arsenal are a success.

However, the major issue is whether they will release sufficient resources in transfer market to invest in top quality player, which are needed to meet that
ambition.

If you read the recent interview the suggestion is that they will go an extra mile to finance a top quality signings.

Otherwise their aim is to improve the quality of squad by shrewd investments
in transfers and from promotions within club.

It remains to be seen whether this objective is fulfilled.

Guns of Hackney

£45m is a derisory amount for a modern football club to do business with. Even if we sold our dross, how much more could we realistically make? £20/30m…maybe. As for Lacazette, he may be a commodity but I doubt he would make much more than £30m. He’s just not very good. So, let’s say we sold the shite for £60m and add that to the £45m…£105m. And that has to buy players and pay their wages. Ain’t going to happen. Arsenal are done as a top tier club and if it wasn’t for such a shit league, we would probably… Read more »

GoonerDave

Snowflake Baby Bamford trying to take away people’s freedom of speech again.
Delusional left wing fairy. Many people died for your freedom of speech. You want to take it away because your bubble dwelling professor told you so. Ever have a thought that is your own? Or are you just another NPC?
Grow up child.

Frank Mc

Bamford you tedious sceptic.

Dissenter

CC ‘24 games is never going to be enough for huge discrepancies in points totals. Managers are inherently judged on performances, style, approach, feeling around the club, which I’m yet to see a table of’ 24 games isn’t enough for huge discrepancies in points … but is enough to make huge declarative judgements on style and ‘feeling’ Performance is measured with points, preferably at the end of the season but how do you measure your vague metrics of ‘style, approach and feeling’? When faced with objective evidence, your recourse is to slide into your obvious bias. One more thing, I… Read more »

Bamford10

Dave

Many, many, many posters have complained about Un Na. And Charlie George. I am only echoing them. And “free speech” has nothing to do with it, clown. This is not a public space, Pedro is not the government, and he is free to police the kind of speech that goes on here. Not to mention, Le Grove is a business, so he has an interest in maintaining the quality of his product. Everything else you’ve said is just dumb right-wing blather. No wonder you sympathize with Un Na; both of your brains are filled with the same nonsense.

Micheal

ES: “Josh Kroenke makes it clear that the family are ambitious that Arsenal are a success.” Josh’s words are placatory and do not amount to a row of beans. To be fair to him, he ws never going to state that the owners are “unambitious” and did not want to win the Champs League. But these words could just as easily be uttered by a director at Huddersfield or Cardiff – of course they are ambitious. My point is that the club needs substantial investment and all we have are the “apple pie & motherhood” drivel from Josh. Not very… Read more »

Pierre

Stroller
The signings of Torreira,Guendouzi and Mavropanos in the last 12 months or so were a positive step in the right direction .
Whoever was responsible for those signings show the acumen for what the club needs at this present time.

However, the loan of Saurez shows no logic .

You have made the point many times that defensively we are weak so to not address the situation in January was negligent.

Bamford10

Pierre

Unless they didn’t like what was available (defensively) in the January window, think they can make do for now with what they have (and with Sokratis returning later this month), and prefer to use the summer to rebuild the defense. In that case, not spending in January might make perfect sense.

Freddie Ljungberg

Arsnil

I get what you’re saying but obviously he has only been able to play for the last 2 weeks or he would have started with the u23s earlier. We’re hardly going to throw him in after that long out and with 2 senior games behind him in his career for us.

I’m excited to see more of him now though. He’s the only one of our defenders that has all the necessary characteristics to become a top level CB, height, pace, strength, ability on the ball, let’s just hope he can translate that into performances on the pitch.

Dissenter

Emirates, This talk about the Kroenkes releasing transfer fund is also somewhat erroneous. FFP does not have a provision for owners ‘gifting’ money to their clubs. They have to find creative ways to do it like award exhobitant commercial revenue from an organization that they own. It would mean the LA rams would be a commercial sponsor of Arsenal, which makes no sense. The transfer budget will depend on where we end up at the end of the season. No one really knows the actual sum. £45 million is probably worst case scenario if we are completely out of Europe… Read more »

Bamford10

Emirates

Except that if we do not have huge amounts of money to spend this summer, it won’t be because of any alleged “self-inflicted austerity”; it will be because of what FFP rules dictate when you incur operating losses, or it will be because of the bad financial situation Wenger and Gazidis got us into.

Freddie Ljungberg

Dissenter

Exactly, this is what all the ” the owner should spend some money” types doesn’t understand. With ffp that’s not possible anymore if a team wants to play in Europe.

He could have paid for training facilities etc though if I remember correctly without breaching ffp but that ship has sailed.

Pierre

Bamford
That’s a possibility but can you explain as to why we would bring Saurez in when we have Ramsey, Mhkitaryan ,Smith rowe,iwobi and ozil in the squad.

I’m struggling to understand the logic in that loan deal when we could possibly have brought in someone like Gary Cahill to bolster our defence until the end of the season.

Dissenter

That’s chart is damningly informative however I still expect people to say Emery deserves what he’s getting because he told the club he knew the players well blah, blah. Who goes for a major job interview unprepared? The problem is his people are beginning to leak information that Arsenal deceived him which is very plausible. Gazidis was the one who spearheaded the search for manager and is now gone. Knowing what we know about Gazidis, it’s very likely that he promised Emery there will be an ”escalation of financial firepower” during the process. I don’t think any manager will sign… Read more »

gambon

Graham 62,

Theres no way Kroenke should be chucking £120m in as a gift.

You just said yourself, the club has made colossal errors of judgement in recent years. Errors in buying players, errors in extending contracts and errors in selling players.

Frankly money wont sort that issue out.

If you have a friend that has a mental illness where he keeps setting money on fire, you dont give him £10k in bank notes to solve the issue.

Arsenal have been setting fire to money in recent years. Until that changes, Kroenke shouldnt invest anything at all.

Nelson

– When I listened to Ornstein in Arseblog, I thought I heard that 100m includes agent fee. – Emery repeatedly said that we need a winger and Suarez has played as a winger before. My guess is that Emery will use him as a right winger and use a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 formation. – If we have to trade one of our striker, I would trade Auba. I have a feeling that Auba is slowing down already. Yesterday, I followed the RM vs Baca game and I heard that both teams plan to change their striker. Maybe we can get… Read more »

qna

Pierre. Have to laugh at your logic. The 21 game unbeaten streak is proof that the players are good enough and not that the manager is good enough? Loss of key players like Bellerin and Holding since then and what can the manager do. Hopefully we get Sokratis back soon and at least sort out the back 4 a bit. I’ll feel more comfortable with a back 4 of Mustafa (RB) Sokratis Kos Monreal. Not sure it’s good enough for top 4 though. I’ve written us off, but I’m comforted by the fact that we have an excellent manager in… Read more »

Dissenter

I sill can’t believe we sold Szcezny for €12 million then purchased a lesser keeper [not a direct replacement] in Leno for €25 million one year later.
I don’t think there’s any doubt that Szcezny is the better keeper.

We’been leaking like a sieve for a long time.
It’s only now that the drip-drip has become a gusher that people are going apoplectic

Un na naai

Bamford

And yet here I am. Free to speak. Good thing the rest of the world shuns your whiney Marxist attempts to curtail the thoughts of others.

Now watch carefully, I never start the insults but if you want to go down that road I’m happy to obliterate you.

You begun by insulting me and CG and then calling us for to be banned for insulting other posters in retaliation.

Do you realise how pathetic you come across and how flawed that logic is?

Un na naai
Champagne charlie

Dissenter

There’s nothing fallacious about the argument I’ve presented, that’s your take because you see apples to apples when it’s anything but.

Style and approach isn’t comparable to points, one is rigid and the other anything but that.

Give a Big Sam and Pep Guardiola both 5 games with this Arsenal squad and whatever they want to do there’s 15 points available. Now go ahead and suggest the styles of each manager wouldn’t be present, and markedly different, even within those same 5 games.

gambon

Its hard to find many players at Arsenal that we could sell for a profit. Spurs could sell Alli, Kane and Eriksen for £350m, they cost £16m Liverpool could sell Salah, Mane & Firmino for £260m, they cost £106m Chelsea will sell Hazard for £100m, and CHO for £35m who barely plays. Until that changes, I dont think you will see Stan injecting any money. Torreira and Guendouzi were a good start, Leno wasnt. The club need to show they know how to find good value before we even talk about big spending. We need to rebuild from the bottom… Read more »

Dissenter

I’ve been saying [along with several others] that Kroenke needn’t spend one penny.
Kroenke shouldn’t spend a penny
Kroenke must not spend a penny.
We have to find our way, even if it means feasting on dry bread and water for a while. The Wenger apologist can choose a menu of fine crow.
We have to clear our books of all the crap, like a builder needs to drain the site and clear out the mess before building.

Bamford10

Un Na

It’s “began” and I didn’t begin by insulting you or CG. I am following up on comments made by other posters yesterday and in days prior. Like other people, I have actually been coming here less because reading your comments is so painful. It is Pedro’s blog to govern, and I am free to express my opinion that this place has not been as good since you and CG arrived. Cheers.

HighburyLegend

“Read about the glory days in a book.”

@GoH, there’s also some great dvds!!

Dissenter

CC Surely you can see that you’re stretched logic with that mendacious defiance of your flawed position? 24 matches is not enough to assess performance based in points because more not enough spread – so we was wait till,the end of the season. Yet you are ready to declare him a failure [you’ve previously alluded to this so don’t let me wake up PhD] Instead you want to adjudge him in February based on emotion [‘feeling”] and approach/style [he likes to play from the back and deploy the hard press]. There’s no table for these metrics because they are as… Read more »

Receding Hairline

The ones who keep saying Kroenke should pump in money are simply looking for ways to absolve Wenger of his financial recklessness over the past 5 years or more.

The club has to hit the reset money, some one here are fixated on the manager when our house is practically on fire. Deceiving themselves into believing we have anything close to a decent squad in comparison with the rest of the top six.

Pierre for the last time Suarez was brought in to play on the wings.

Dissenter

*defence , not defiance of

Un na naai

Bamford Feb 7 11:12 Everything else you’ve said is just dumb right-wing blather. No wonder you sympathize with Un Na; both of your brains are filled with the same nonsense. Bam this is how you started off today’s interactions. You begun insulting me and CG before we’d even addressed you today. So yes. You bring it on yourself. Yes. You are free to say what you like and I, unlike you am not trying to impede your ability to so. Pedro is also free to act as he likes so I’m glad that you have very little authority over anything… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Funny how a certain poster accuses others of having a rigid viewpoint when his has always been the manager is not good enough. Keep waiting for a defined style of play in the midst of an injury crises, or a Newcastle style back to the wall defensive play when you have players who make unforced errors in practically every game. And for those passing judgment on Leno, i will wait till i see him playing behind something resembling an organized defensive unit who do not collectively shit themselves when faced with keeping a clean sheet or holding a lead before… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Earlier this week, Emmanuel Petit slammed Arsenal’s transfer policy and questioned why the club replaced Wenger with Unai Emery. ‘The frustration level must be very high for Emery,’ the former Arsenal midfielder told the Irish Independent. ‘In only his second transfer window as Arsenal manager, he was told he cannot sign anybody. ‘You look at the money Manchester United, Liverpool and Manchester City spend and unless you join them and put the cash on the table to compete for the best players, you are going nowhere. ‘Tottenham are not spending money, but they are in the position Arsenal were in… Read more »

Dissenter

We focused here too much of revenue generated and crowned Arsenal to be the 6-9th richest club. We missed the boat because we were focused on the surface not what was brewing beneath. We ought to have been looking at the ‘market value of the footballers employed’ which measures the transfer value of the footballing investment.. We should have considered this when we were stocking the club with 29-30 year olds [thanks Sven Mislintat and fuc* off] Club Competition Market Value 1 FC Barcelona FC Barcelona Spain LaLiga 1,17 Bill. € 2 Manchester City Manchester City England Premier League 1,13… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Bamford 10 The FFP rules are easy to comply with and are not dependent solely on Ozil or Mkhitaryan. We have a lot of ageing overpaid players on our books such as as Cech, Lichsteiner, Koscielny and Monreal who are collectively costing us something like £360-370 Million per week. All could/should be offloaded this summer. We know also that Ramsey is leaving and players like Elneny, Chambers and Ospina are also likely to go that is probably costing us another £150 million. There are also other players who could leave as well. So that provides a considerable leverage on regulating… Read more »

Pierre

Qna “Pierre. Have to laugh at your logic. The 21 game unbeaten streak is proof that the players are good enough and not that the manager is good enough” Some may say that the teams early season form still had our previous manager’s DNA on it which I think is a fair point. It has been often stated on here that it is difficult for a new manager to implement his philosophy within the first few months so it is quite logical to say that after a number of months then the teams style of football is a reflection on… Read more »

HighburyLegend

£40m to spend next summer…
And Josh who’s talking about “glory”…. ffs, the Kroenke seem to be total morons.

Champagne charlie

Dissenter

There’s no stretched logic, you’re being willfully dismissive of basic flawed comparisons.

In any TWO football matches there’s only ever 6 points available. In those same two football matches there’s scope for all manner of performance level, ergo over 24 matches the points totals won’t be wildly different but the manner of performance can be.

It’s not the least bit difficult or outlandish to say, you’re making it out as such to undermine it as a pov.

Receding Hairline

“Some may say that the teams early season form still had our previous manager’s DNA on it which I think is a fair point.”

How can you refer to yourself as some with a straight face.

Unai Emery’s 22 game unbeaten streak belongs to him and him alone. Same way those crediting someone else with Wenger’s early success are wrong.

Leedsgunner

“If we have to trade one of our striker, I would trade Auba. I have a feeling that Auba is slowing down already. Yesterday, I followed the RM vs Baca game and I heard that both teams plan to change their striker. Maybe we can get good money dealing with them.” Agree with this. Lacazette is younger and all around a better footballer than Auba if you compare the two. Unfortunately if ew sell Auba for £60m, we’ll have done well in making a small profit… although if Higuain went for £90m so there’s hope if Raul and Famy are… Read more »

Bamford10

Emirates “The FFP rules are easy to comply with and are not dependent solely on Ozil or Mkhitaryan.” You are thinking here only about FFP wage-bill rules. That is not the only issue we confront. Read Terraloon’s comments from yesterday and the day before. The more important issue we face, apparently, is the FFP rules regarding operating losses, namely, you cannot have more than 15m in operating losses in a fiscal year on an ongoing basis. If we are constrained this summer on account of FFP, it is likely due to this issue, not the wage-bill issue (though we have… Read more »

Leedsgunner

*but possible

Doom n gloom

God the comments on this site make for depressing reading.Their used to be optimism .can we have some hope.any?

Receding Hairline

If Aubameyang was going to play for any of the two Spanish giants he would have been playing for them already

Emiratesstroller

Dissenter I would not focus too much on theoretical market values of players unless the club plans to sell them. FFP is based on wages and/or losses incurred. Arsenal do not make usually losses. I agree with you that it is not clever spending large sums of money either on transfer fees or wages for players aged 29+. However, many top players recruited today at 28+ can offer 4-5 years service, because careers if well managed and injury free offer that possibility. Sadly Arsenal have recruited or maintained careers of too many players who have clearly become injury prone or… Read more »

Pierre

RH
“Pierre for the last time Suarez was brought in to play on the wings.”

I can’t wait to see Saurez flying down the wing like Marc overmars , leaving defenders in his wake , beating defenders , making chances for his strikers because believe of not , creating chances( despite what many on here think) helps the team to score goals and win matches, and I’m sure we Will also see Saurez tracking back to help the full backs with his boundless energy .

Just like a winger.

englandsbest

My rule of thumb is always to think the worst while Stan is owner. And why not, based on past experience, So what is our past experience? Well, for a start, the Club always had a revenue sufficient to sign top-class players. Instead it sold off our top-class players. I shan’t bother to name them, it’s too painful. In other words, in the years when expensive signing were made the net figure was small or non-existent because of sales. Bottom-line stuff from Stan. But those reserves of players other clubs want are down to the dregs. Pedro mentions Lacassete, I… Read more »

Dissenter

Le-grove was never known for “optimism”. Sorry to burst the bubble.
Get a dog and buy it an Arsenal leash, that will cheer you up.

Emiratesstroller

Bamford 10

I covered this in my earlier post.

Arsenal seldom make losses and if you look at the latest accounts the club despite a notional loss which includes write offs and annual depreciation
managed to pay a significant amount of corporation tax.

So I don’t think that Arsenal will have any problems with FFP rules.

Dissenter

Emirates
…’So I don’t think that Arsenal will have any problems with FFP rules.’

Yes but we will….if we adopt the Kroenke spend money approach.
FFP doesn’t provide for sugar daddies giving their sweeties extra pocket money.

Bamford10

Emirates

OK, except that Terraloon writes like a detail-oriented forensic accountant and he sees us suffering a £50-75m operating loss in the current fiscal year. Again, I suggest you re-read his posts from yesterday / the day before.

Nelson

I just read about Intel’s True View broadcast system which will be used by Arsenal starting next month. We can experience the action from the player’s perspective. I couldn’t wait to find it out. 😀

qna

Dissenter. Go back and look at my posts from many years ago. I would bang on and on about this. I’d get accused of not liking any player unless they were expensive. Not at all, and I would name countless expensive players that I would have. You have to buy top quality players. If your going to spend good money, buy from the top shelf. Make up the difference in the squad by bringing in quality youth and playing them. Instead of buying Chambers and Welbeck for 35m, buy one player for 30m and add an under 21 for 4m.… Read more »

Dick Emery

Breaking news
TOTTENHAM CONFIRM ARSENAL MATCH ON MARCH 2 WILL BE PLAYED AT WEMBLEY

Yeah like there was any doubt

qna

*i would name countless expensive players I wouldn’t have

Pierre

I haven’t seen a lot of Saurez I have to admit from what I have seen , he looks like a neat and tidy player with good technique , and decent on the ball. …..they are his positives. The negatives are , for a winger , no explosive pace, no aggression in his play , looks lightweight, physically weak , end product is debatable. Let’s hope he has the intelligence and awareness to find space on the pitch to give him time to show us his skills . Let’s hope Emery sets the team up for Saurez to show us… Read more »

Bamford10

QNA

I think you mean “inexpensive”. (Your point, I believe, is that you are aware of the fact that there are inexpensive quality players to be found out there.)

However, I would just like to point out that you got a lot of shit in the past because you used to call for us to sign, like, three £75m players in a given window. Your idea of how we were going to get from where we were player-wise to where we need to be wasn’t reasonable.

Dissenter

‘Stan will load debt on the club’ This has been debunked so many time that it’s pintless repeating the rebuttals -Stan put up his wealth and his wife’s wealth as collateral to secure the extra funding for his LA project. He’s not taking a dime from the city of LA or California [against the regular practice]. This is publicly accessible information because major league sports have certain tax benefits. You would think a man with a Texas ranch now worth in excess of one billion would have more to offer the bank than a London club that’s running on cruise… Read more »

Pierre

Qna
Good post

Emiratesstroller

Bamford 10 I am not an accountant, but I worked as a lawyer and ran my own commercial business for many years. I know how to read forensically accounts. Arsenal are in much better shape financially than is being suggested. Two years go we made a profit of £51 million and our bank balance dropped to £178 million. This year we made a so-called loss exclusively due to transfer trading and yet the bank balance rose to £230 million and we paid a significant amount of tax. Accounts can always be regulated. Frankly I was surprised that the accounts showed… Read more »

Bamford10

“Stan will load debt on the club”

Dissenter – Yes, and this from a poster who lied here, claiming that Wenger asked Kroenke for 20m for a CB and GK but was denied this money by the owner.

Bamford10

Emirates

OK, except that Terraloon thinks we will show a loss of 50-75m this fiscal year and doesn’t think this has anything to do with “Kroenke buying out Usmanov”. You’ll forgive me if I think your analysis is thin and that you’ve simply joined the anti-Kroenke, scaremongering set.

Cheers, all the same.

qna

Bamford. Yes exactly right I used to get called out for wanting us to do that. But that was my point. This future that we are living now in is what I was screaming to everyone that we would face. We had cash to spend. Our team was much closer to being competitive then than it was now. I was saying that Stan needed to spend good money to make money. He needed to get in the caliber of players that would allow this club to compete on the field. Which would in turn keep improve our ability to increase… Read more »

Graham62

gambon It was tounge in cheek. Of course he won’t chuck an extra £120m at Emery. What I was trying to highlight, above all else, was how inept he has been as an owner to sanction such ridiculous financial actions. The communications coming out from the Kroenke clan (Josh in particular) is, as far as I’m concerned, nothing but hot air. If SK was genuinely serious about things, he would have rid us of the virus years ago. This tends to happen when you have little or no concept or,should I say, interest, in what’s going on. Ignorance, in this… Read more »

Silverhawk

Nelson

I just read about Intel’s True View broadcast system which will be used by Arsenal starting next month. We can experience the action from the player’s perspective. I couldn’t wait to find it out.

What is this about? Can you please shed more light?.. Thanks.

Bamford10

QNA

OK, except that there were excellent players we could have signed for £10-40m as well. Yet you only wanted us to spend £75m per — a strategy that might have landed us three excellent to world class players but might also have put us in an even worse spot (financially and squad-wise) than we are in today.

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