courtesy @allthatchas
Arsenal under new leadership looks exactly the same as the old Arsenal we thought we’d left behind. The sum total of what we delivered in a 3-1 loss was 15 minutes of football that looked interesting. The main celebration of Arsenal fans post-game centred around not losing by 8 goals, as many feared we’d be revisiting that fateful Manchester disasterclass of 2011.
That’s a depressing new low 9 months into a new regime.
I don’t think anyone was really expecting Emery to deliver a blistering win, but I also don’t think anyone expected Arsenal to go down so meekly. Emery was pitched as a master tactician, a man who had a plan for every player, an energetic motivator who was furious at the fitness levels of the players, and on a mission to hold players accountable for their pitiful attitude towards winning. What he delivered yesterday was another shambles shielded by the fact that he has a free season pass with a huge group of the fans who seem to believe that patience and money will iron out the kinks in a body of issues that looks more like coaching issues.
The starting 11 was odd. Emery opted for 4-4-2. He chose to play Iwobi, he once again picked Lichtsteiner, and he left Suarez, Ramsey and Ozil on the bench.
We paid the price within 50 seconds. Guendouzi had tried to move the ball out of our box, he played into Iwobi who dithered and lost the ball, Lichtsteiner was too slow to realize what was going on, Mustafi played everyone onside, and Aguero was found with a diving header he easily put past Leno who jumped the wrong way. We were so stretched early on it was hard to work out what the formation was at times, but what was clear is the defence was shell shocked and hadn’t a clue how to settle.
Arsenal did come back into the game with a great set piece goal from Laurent Koscielny. Torriera found Monreal at the front post, the ball was knocked on for a simple headed goal. We had City rattled for a good 15 minutes, Guendouzi and Torriera were doing as solid a job in midfield as they could considering how outnumbered they were and we nearly took advantage of a few pieces of shoddy defending. But ultimately, we weren’t set up to take advantage of the weaknesses in City’s armour. Our strikers were playing too deep, Auba is ineffective against great sides that control the midfield, we had no width, and our creativity was limited to Iwobi.
To make matters worse, as always with this Emery side, we didn’t have the maturity to see out an advantage into half time, a now chronic issue almost as debilitating to our progress as not winning away from home last season.
Fernandinho had time to pick out Sterling on the right, Lichtsteiner pottered over, the ball was cut back to Gundogan who clipped a ball back over the defence first time, our right back had lost Sterling trying to clear his lines, the ball was volleyed across goal where Aguero was on hand to finish unmarked for the second time.
Emery didn’t do anything to change things at halftime, I thought he might switch to three at the back and introduce some creative talent. We’d not given Lacazette or Auba a single chance the whole half, you felt if we addressed that, we might have made things more interesting.
As it happened, City came gunning for us in the second 45, and we were finished by 60 minutes. Aguerro found Sterling out on the right, Iwobi wasn’t covering, Lichtsteiner couldn’t deal with the pace, a simple cross found Aguero for his third tap-in of the night.
The manager tried to chase the game after that by introducing Denis Suarez for his debut and giving Rambo a run-out, but the players had essentially given up. They knew it was over and they didn’t want to go down fighting. Emery himself seemed to follow their lead offering up Mavrapanos as a 79th-minute sub.
Worth noting that Suarez dropped a debut so bad, there’s a compilation of it. It’s only one game, but I’ve seen him plenty of times before, I’m really struggling to see what he’s brought to the table that we don’t already have at the club. He doesn’t give us width, he’s not physical and he’s slow.
Arsenal were chasing a game in the second half and we managed to register ZERO attempts at the City goal. We couldn’t even provide a wild shot at goal from 40 yards (miss u, Xhaka).
The two bright spots for me were Matty G and Lucas T. Those two worked tirelessly and deserved more out of the game. Matty G is such a great player, I love his ferocity and work ethic, his lanes of passing and his growing confidence. What a star we have there. It’s telling that he’s our most important player at the minute, this reminds me of Jack in his breakthrough year. Let’s hope we take care of MGs body a little better.
So in conclusion, it was 3 points we were all expecting to drop, but a match that once again exposed the manager as lukewarm at the highest level. He made a lot of mistakes yesterday and I think that’s 13 games he’s failed to best Pep. I think this comment after the game was very telling.
“Our players have the mentality that when we are worse than the opposition we feel that.’’
Apparently, that line isn’t a translation issue, he said it over and over again. Though it might be true, you do wonder if Emery was wise to say it? The team are clearly struggling with inconsistent ideas, indecision with team selection and interchanging tactics. I’m not sure throwing stones is smart when you opt to play two strikers and leave all your creativity on the bench. Is Emery really surprised the players didn’t believe when he started Lichtsteiner despite knowing he’s finished at the highest level?
Inferiority issues usually stem from the leader. You’ll always come up against bigger and better-equipped opponents, the key is to find stratagems that convince your soldiers the fight is winnable.
Whatever the reason, Emery’s observation was correct, you absolutely knew that when Arsenal walked out on that pitch they had no hope of winning that game. The players didn’t look like they knew what they were doing and there was the same lack of belief we’d have under Wenger. The interesting thing about the comment is earlier in the season, we were celebrating the shift in mentality under Emery, a manager who said he refused to let his players play like cowards, a manager who had reinvigorated the dressing room with a winning mentality. The proof points were a succession of late winners, games turned around at half time, and 22 games unbeaten (I was saying it too!).
What are we saying now? Was that a mirage? Is it now back to Wenger’s team after 9 months? Do we have to go on a Stalinist purge to rid every single player that had a word whispered to him by our ex-manager before we can be fully satisfied that the new coach has been given the best possible chance?
We are 9 months into this project and we’re on course to concede 57 goals this season. We’ve shipped 13 goals in our 4 big away games so far this season. We look an absolute mess. There was no organisation yesterday, senior players were making basic mistakes (players that have been making mistakes all season), and the tactical hypothesis we went for in leaving our creative players on the bench ended up punishing us because the pragmatism didn’t equate to better defending.
Arsenal didn’t have to travel this week, so they’ve had time to prepare for this game. We conceded 12 shots on target from 19 attempts. That is miserable, but we did the same away at Chelsea (13) and Liverpool (10). Just to put it in perspective because I know we had injuries, Newcastle limited City to 4 shots on target the week before. Even Huddersfield, a team in a terrible state, managed to reduce City to 4 shots on target. Defending is a team game, and we’re not doing it well. Even worse, both the aforementioned sides registered the same number of shots on target as us (2), both had more attempts.
If there is such thing as winning ugly, then yesterday was an example of Arsenal losing ugly. City were average, but as always, we are exactly the team you want to play when you’ve hit a bumpy patch. We’ll always roll over and take it. I knew we’d have problems this season, but I thought we’d see a sharper vision of a new Arsenal sooner. I thought at the very least, if we went down, we’d go down fighting. I didn’t expect the coach to be slaying his player’s mentality in February, especially when 6 of the starting 11 were players bought in during the Sven era (the remaining 5 all capped at international level).
You can attribute yesterday to Wenger all you like, you can plead for more money and patience, but you cannot escape the reality that Emery was hired in as a prestigious head coach of Arsenal and he’s failing across the board. The video analysis hype doesn’t seem to be translating onto the pitch. Maybe players can’t concentrate for the hour or so he spends talking to them, maybe the ideas aren’t good? Whatever Emery and his team are doing defensively, we’re getting worse.
‘I like the possession with the ball, I like good pressing against the other team. I prefer to win 5-4 than win 1-0.’
Today we registered 2 shots on target both shots coming from defenders. The pressing game isn’t really there. The players are not getting better individually. Stylistically, we’re still awful to watch.
That’s on the coach.
Today’s result was expected, the question you have to ask yourself is whether that was the sort of loss that’s driving towards a better Arsenal. For me, all I could take out of that was the dread that we have a manager out of his comfort zone and as a result is shifting his own narrative from a power point mastermind who had a plan to coach us into the next level, to just another drab chequebook manager who needs two seasons to make improvements (remember the press defending Moyes in the same way?).
That’s not what we were sold people because if it were, you’d not have bought it.
Remember, there is nothing rational in calling for patience and investment in a person who isn’t delivering improvement. There is nothing sensible in taking a drab path if you don’t need to. Bruce Rioch hit his objectives in his first season at Arsenal and David Dein took the rational decision to dispense of his services for Arsene Wenger. That’s great leadership. Let’s hope Raul has that in him should the season continue to head south.
Would love to hear your thought in the comments.
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“”The reason I’ve said “why bother sacking Wenger” is because people like you offer up no judgement of Emery and instead dismiss any accountability until he’s had several windows to buy players. So again, if it’s simply a case of us having a shit squad then why bother sacking Wenger at a cost? Just defer the responsibility to Sven (as was being done since last Jan when we signed Auba) and let him finish his contract.”” Wenger was not allowed to finish his contract because he was actually sacked five years late. Advocating he coaches any of the players Sven… Read more »
Real Madrid have shown they are a mid table team without Ronaldo.
Ozil wins fuck all without Ronaldo..
Arsenal fans are so embarrassingly gullible.
PR mouthpiece comes out with 100 million warchest stories after a poor run of form that culminated with a heavy defeat to a rival.
We’ve been here so many times before.
Strange and irrelevant comment ..you’re having a bad day today aren’t you, definitely showing your true colours.
You should know all about strange and irrelevant comments, you practically invented them
A midfield of Torreira, Guendouzi and Rabiot would be pretty unbalanced.
We would need a CM that can play further forward, and create.
Someone like Fornals, Havertz or Aouar.
“A midfield of Torreira, Guendouzi and Rabiot would be pretty unbalanced”.
People assume just because Rabiot wants to play as an attacking Mid means he is good at it.
If we get Rabiot, our midfield will be much stronger and set for a few years . Add 2 wingers,,,,,
Lozano, , Rabiot, Torr, Guen, Pepe
If Suarez works out, keep him too for CAM
hmmm
‘A midfield of Torreira, Guendouzi and Rabiot would be pretty unbalanced.’
Not saying play all three at once, but as your base you are sorted for a long time.
Havertz would be my choice of signing for the CAM position, but it may also be we move the playmaker of the team to RM while bringing in a more traditional direct pace option at LM.
There has been a trend recently with us from moving from 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 to 4-1-2-1-2 which again that set up would allow. The RM drifting into CAM and the LM into the CF/ST position.
“Someone like Fornals, Havertz or Aouar.”
These are Waiters in a Turkish Restaurant
These are Waiters in a Turkish Restaurant
Stop it Red…please stop…can’t laugh no more
“We would need a CM that can play further forward, and create”
Not necessarily in a 4-3-3.
Break the bank for Aouar.
Will pay dividends 10x over
Dude is a great with the ball at his feet… strong, quick acceleration, great vision
Strong with a good shot
If City dont get him, would prefer him to Rabiot
Pierre
A 4-3-3 cant have 3 players that dont really enter the final 3rd and dont deliver final balls.
There will certainly be a need for a CM that links the MF to the attack.
Ramsey is going, we’re trying to push Ozil out and it looks like Emery doesnt see Mykhitaryan as a CAM.
We will need someone.
What’ is the magnet- that is going to inspire all these exotic sounding names to join Arsenal when Emery is in charge ..
Fanciful..
Players, nowadays will join clubs for 2 reasons :
1) The managers ability and his track record of making players better ( emery has never done this)
Hard cash.
Unfortunately we are lacking on the cash and charisma fronts.
Stick to our internal players…
The attempt towards creating a certain style of play must be visible. It might be difficult for the style to manifest due to how supposedly “shit” how players are but the attempt towards creating the style must be evident irrespective of the quality of players available.
Gambon
I would say that Liverpool do not have what you would call the link player in their 3 in midfield but what they do have is a potent front 3 which makes up for it.
It depends how our manager looks at it , we don’t have such a dynamic forward line as Liverpool so he may decide he needs a more attack minded midfielder to supplement the attack.
Leaving out Mavropanos tells you a lot about Emery’s philosophy. We have two defenders with long term injuries added to the squad, and he leaves out the one cb that is fresh and capable to get in the squad as is….
Champagne charlieFebruary 5, 2019 16:19:37 … “Again, all this is rehashed and it’s your inability to follow what’s being said that has you in limbo. You’re too busy elbow deep in Emery’s colon next to yesterday’s paella, which anyone who’s spoken to you on the subject can attest to.” Wow. Just wow. Champagne Charlie Chuckle now in lockstep with the other Spanish hater Chuckle Charle George; the Charlie Chuckle brothers of LeGrove; a right pair of Charlies. Your Freudian slip of the Paella reference exposes your true agenda for all to see, and your pathetic preference for the vastly inferior… Read more »
“Leaving out Mavropanos tells you a lot about Emery’s philosophy. We have two defenders with long term injuries added to the squad, and he leaves out the one cb that is fresh and capable to get in the squad as is….”
Lol
The player with the vast experience of two competitive starts, one of which ended in an early shower
…but he’s “fresh and capable”…how do you know this. Is this another myth that you’re peddling? 🙂 🙂
Pierre Liverpool play one of 2 ways. 1- Firmino playing as a #10 behind Salah with 2 x CMs behind him. 2- Firminho up front being supported by Salah & Mane, with a 3 man midfield. In this system they have 3 creative forwards, with Firmino especially strong. We just dont have that. We have 2 CFs who are much more orthodox, and a lack of quality in AM. Emery has previously played with Ever Banega as an advanced MF. I think he likes a player that can be an 8/10 and create. We have Ramsey, who im surprised Emery… Read more »
Anyhow,
I think Rabiot will be going to a CL club.
I could see Utd, Chelsea, City, Liverpool, Bayern, Madrid, Atletico all making big offers.
Maybe Emery thinks Saurez could be that man …
“Advocating he (Wenger) coaches any of the players Sven brought in is an apologist view point.“ Are you seriously this dense? The question isn’t asked because anyone wants to see Wenger in charge, it’s being asked rhetorically as a way of highlighting how irrelevant a manager is by YOUR logic of constantly harping on about transfer and needing new players. “Emery has nothing to prove with same rubbish players who are simply repeating the same mistakes they are used to making as that is the height of their abilities” Emery has everything to prove you fucking idiot, any new manager… Read more »
Arsenal should source for a manager right here.
According to the Ornstein interview, Emery wanted to sign Ozil at PSG(puts paid to the Pierre wish that Emery doesn’t like flair players).
Ornstein also says some people at the club didn’t want Ozil’s contract renewed while a some wanted it renewed on far lower wages.( All this happened before Emery was signed).
Emery told Ozil it was best he leaves the club but Ornstein doesn’t know if that was feeling of Emery alone, the feeling of the hierarchy or both Emery and the hierarchy but Ornstein suspects the hierarchy wants Ozil gone far more than Emery.
“Your Freudian slip of the Paella reference exposes your true agenda for all to see, and your pathetic preference for the vastly inferior Benitez is a desperate attempt to cover your agenda driven numbskullery.“
What’s my agenda Benny?
Rabiot will get big money from CL clubs- I agree Gambon
A pipe dream
if we make top 4, our chances of landing a bigger fish increase quite a bit.
If we do not, its small good fish
For the Emery out crew, Ornstein also said the hierarchy have believes it would take at least 4-5 windows before the club becomes competitive again and they see Emery as a long term candidate.
Anyone think we may sign Alberto Moreno in the summer?
He’s on a free at Liverpool, Emery knows him, and we need a LB
Hes not good enough, but we need to sign so many players, we’re going to have to leave some issues until further down the road.
Where are our new Rockies and Charlie Georges ( the footballer)? These guys were Arsenal fans and extremely talented. I know they both left under a bit of a cloud but what moments they gave us. Even the best left back in the world was allowed to leave. Project youth under the supposed great talent spotter Wenger bombed and Liam Brady let Kane go. Fed up to the teeth. On the finance front, I know there are reasons for it, but it is a disgrace that the old Bank of England and establishment club is so strapped for funds. Rank… Read more »
Wenger apologist Pierre, uncharacteristically quiet on VAR when it came to the Aguero handball incident…
I think we all know why….comical driven agenda **** …lol
Emery has everything to prove you fucking idiot, any new manager has it all to prove with what there is firstly. You can make allowances for recruitment to adhere to the style or needs of a new coach, but it should be fucking obvious the new coach can actually coach. Something Emery has yet to show on any meaningful basis. He has a coaching career that covers Sevilla, Valencia,Almeria, PSG, Spartark Moscow..i am pretty sure he has proved he can coach without having to convert Mustafi to a world class center back. Your silly comments like this is Emery’s first… Read more »
azed
4-5 windows sounds about right.
It’s going to be painful watching Arsenal until then.
Wenger turned us into an expensively acquired scrap yard full of expired batteries.
Receding
Why does he keep getting sacked then?
3 times already…..?
Azed
“According to the Ornstein interview, Emery wanted to sign Ozil at PSG(puts paid to the Pierre wish that Emery doesn’t like flair players).”
Makes sense ..
Emery wanted to sign Ozil at PSG , Emery then comes to Arsenal but leaves Ozil out of the team .
We have to go for every feasible free transfer of players less than 26 years old..
It’s high risk because we may be stuck with half-baked players like Kolasinac . That’s one way to get some quality in and establish some resale value.
If Emery is around by the 4th window.
All on Le Grove – will be pining for the return of AW…
Pierre
PSG can afford a luxury player or two…ARSENAL CANNOT.
Is that so hard for you
Charlie, George now not the Carpenter
Emery was sacked at Spartak Moscow, to be replaced by the coach he took over from who was made sporting director
He left Valencia to join Spartak..not sacked
Left Sevilla for PSG…not sacked
For a club crying poverty… it’s a shame we can’t seem to get our act together to sign the correct free agents. Rabiot should be and could be perfect for us if we were showing a definite direction, intent and improvement. This continual cry of impoverishment is growing thin especially if we are not doing all we can now to mitigate our position for the summer. Raul should be working his contact book now so that we have our deadwood sold as soon as the transfer window opens in July. As I and others have said many times if we… Read more »
If £40m is all we are getting in the summer, why isn’t anyone asking Kronkes the question at the heart of this issue?
What was the point of moving to the Emirates if we are still unable to compete?
“Emery wanted to sign Ozil at PSG , Emery then comes to Arsenal but leaves Ozil out of the team .”
Did you miss the other part were the hierarchy doesn’t really fancy Ozil and playing him sporadically is a way to get him out?
Charlie George For all your anti-Emery jibes, has it ever occured to you that we are only in this predicament because of the shortsightedness and ignorance of a certain French master. Whoever came in was going to encounter problems caused predominantly by our predecessor. Wenger made us into a second tier club, not Emery. Wenger helped to create this shambles, not Emery. Wenger made us into a laughing stock………….not Emery! My only gripe with Emery and it’s a serious one, is I can’t quite fathom out what he’s trying to do. Maybe it’s his inability at communicating things clearly and… Read more »
Metro reporting that Msutafi is out in the summer.
Ahem, I guess we’ll have to get used to him staying then. 🙁
Dissenter
“PSG can afford a luxury player or two…ARSENAL CANNOT.
Is that so hard for you”
So are you suggesting that Emery won’t play ozil because Arsenal can’t afford his wages not because of his ability.
Azed
“Did you miss the other part were the hierarchy doesn’t really fancy Ozil and playing him sporadically is a way to get him out?”
Of course he is …a very sensible policy by a professional football club.
Pierre,
“So are you suggesting that Emery won’t play ozil because Arsenal can’t afford his wages not because of his ability”
A luxury player is one that others have to carry.
The salary is in not in play here. He’s a limited player who’s not capable of adapting to a new style of play.
Aren’t there doubts over Rabiot’s mindset? Or is that just due to issues with his current position?
Either way, would be a real boost to bring someone like him in to the club, though we should have done so years ago.
Dissenter
“A luxury player is one that others have to carry.
The salary is in not in play here. He’s a limited player who’s not capable of adapting to a new style of play. ”
Unbeaten since August with Ozil in the starting line up and
6 defeats in 7 weeks without Ozil in the starting line actually tells a different story doesn’t it.
I honestly think that the club needs to put out a more positive image. An image of a team on the rebuild… MK 2 Slick advertising- As it stands- we are known as the poor team, with bad management, defense, etc. Top players and others teams management probably dismiss us right off the bat. once upon a time, we were a team that everyone considered playing for. The rot over the last decade has diminished our image badly. Kroneke at the helm does not help. The club need to work on image management. Its turned into a shit show Bar… Read more »
“He has a coaching career that covers Sevilla, Valencia,Almeria, PSG, Spartark Moscow..i am pretty sure he has proved he can coach without having to convert Mustafi to a world class center back. Your silly comments like this is Emery’s first job in management is what is daft“
Again with your inability to understand context.
He has everything to prove at Arsenal, like any new manager at the club. You can hold up previous roles, but they mean fuck all if he’s failing the Arsenal job – as can be argued for currently.
Charlie: He has everything to prove at Arsenal, like any new manager at the club. You can hold up previous roles, but they mean fuck all if he’s failing the Arsenal job – as can be argued for currently.
It’s your grasp of logic that is failing. The simplest answer is the correct one. Emery is as good a manager as he has shown in previous clubs. No better no worse. We don’t have the worlds best manager. But he is more than good enough for Arsenal in 2019.
CC “He has everything to prove at Arsenal, like any new manager at the club. You can hold up previous roles, but they mean fuck all if he’s failing the Arsenal job – as can be argued for currently.” You really think it can be argued for currently that Emery is failing the Arsenal job? Based on what exactly? What metrics are you using for that. When you did your GCEs, did the examiners snatch your papers midway intl the exams and score it? A bit presumptuous don’t you think since we are five points better off than we were… Read more »
Cc
It can also be argued that he isn’t failing, he still has two shots at getting CL (the clubs first objective) and if he does then the summer will likely see a reshape of the playing squad to further suit his vision.
It’s reasonable to say the football can look disjointed at times etc but to say he is failing is harsh. Failing would be languishing in 7th or 8th. We are still within close reach of top four and have every chance in that and the EL.
Guns of SF
You are correct.
We have become boring and predictable these past few years.
Mr Kroenke, our BoD, our previous Manager and CEO, even our fanbase, have all helped to create this negative image.
Our culture and ethos center around values that are outdated and, to a degree, irrelevant.
We need something to lighten up the club.
Why can’t we terminate ozil contract.. leaving him a free agent to sign for whoever…
Which means he gets all the money…
“Unbeaten since August with Ozil in the starting line up and”
Ozil didn’t play vs Fulham, Spurs, UTD, Bournemouth, WestHam, Huddersfield and Chelsea at home (and we won).
If you count Europa and the beer cup, Ozil missed at list half of the 22 games un beaten run which show’s that Ozil has no effect on our squad.
Could he do anything if they terminate his contract …
Its worth nothing that we won only one away game all of last season with Ozil in the squad.
Saying Emery is “failing the Arsenal” on Feb 6th actually provides a glimpse into the workings of an agenda.
Why don’t you exercise patience before begoining the gloating.
We are THREE points behind 4th place and have an easier run of games coming up. We are still on course to do well in the Europa league.
CC just can’t help himself.
Leeds: What was the point of moving to the Emirates if we are still unable to compete? If you just look at the bare facts the answer is the shareholders decided to sell and it was determined that to get maximum value for the sale moving to the Emirates was best. Moved in 2006, started selling up in 2007 iirc. Now it’s just run the factory as smoothly as possible. The new owner doesn’t care about trophies. I don’t know why fans don’t beleive him when he says the words out of his own mouth. The guy literally says he… Read more »
**Feb 5th lol
Yea Emery is clearly failing at the job…the job is it play breath taking football while having a healthy goal against column. Points total is an irrelevance. So says Charlie
Graham
a serious image makeover is needed
CL will help though
We need to be a destination again. I hate saying it, but Wenger in the better times was a draw for players. ( before his decline)
Now, we have a shiny stadium, new coach, and not much else.
Come to Arsenal! ” live in London!”
We need to sell ourselves as a team on the rise. Join up now!
anyhow….. I hope that Vinai and team can work to make us more markeable again
Important to note that Champagne Charlie was never Wenger out because he was being respectful to the manager
Now he has it in for Emery because the club didn’t go the bold part, he wants evidence a manager of 10 year experience can coach yet he championed the bold move of appointing Arteta. What is the evidence Arteta can coach?
R.S.P. C
Better still, why don’t we get an explanation from Mr Kroenke on how and why Ozil was given this ludicrous contract in the first place.
“Saying Emery is “failing the Arsenal” on Feb 6th actually provides a glimpse into the workings of an agenda.“ Having a view that conflicts with yours isn’t basis for an “agenda”. An agenda would be to display the inability to reason anything but a POV and dismiss any conflicting views out of hand – which is precisely the type of rhetoric the likes of you and Receding peddle. “It’s reasonable to say the football can look disjointed at times etc but to say he is failing is harsh. Failing would be languishing in 7th or 8th.” I’ll disagree here, Wenger… Read more »
Azed
“Its worth nothing that we won only one away game all of last season with Ozil in the squad.”
and more importantly,we have won 3 FA cups in his 5 years at the club
Wenger wasn’t just sacked for finishing sixth but whatever
Where Unai Emery finishes this season is actually irrelevant, and the club isn’t really setting that as a benchmark, you have long to wait for Benitez, in the meantime keep up the good work
“Important to note that Champagne Charlie was never Wenger out because he was being respectful to the manager“
I more important to note this is absolute bollocks, and thus reveals that you’re just a lying snake on here playing to a crowd.
Whatever village you herald from it’s clear to see you’re the fucking idiot.
Just persevere ..Rafa will be appointed soon Charlie… To work the miracles he has at Newcastle. I see you have dropped the pretense he was a pauper at Napoli
Interesting to see the stat Sky put up on Sunday afternoon has been completely ignored on here. It was points accrued in a managers first 24 games. Emery was 2 points behind Pep but 8 in front on Klopp. For all the talk about Emery failing it’d be nice if managers and players were judged on a like for like basis.
Unless Benitez can suddenly turn the weather into mid twenties and bring me an amazing bowl of Gazpacho then I don’t want him anywhere near me or Arsenal.
Jesus Christ, can people stop saying the club is “crying poverty”? It’s not. If there is any truth at all to this “limited money for signings this summer” story, it’s because of FFP rules, not stingy ownership. Read Terraloon’s posts, ffs.
Receding
I never stated he was a pauper at Napoli, you just have a problem with English you thick cunt
Graham 62 With the greatest respect You are talking old fashioned tosh. Wenger left more than an adequate legacy Any competent manager / coach would have relished to pick up the baton left behind by Wenger. Emery seems to have made this task more Mission Impossible rather another Mission Invincible operation. (You seem so embittered with the Wenger reign it clouds your judgement, on everything post Wenger) Graham 62- reminder Wenger 7× FA cups Wenger 3 × league titles 10 big trophies in 20 years One every 2 seasons.! 18/20 CL If anyone thinks Emery is an Arsenal calibre manager… Read more »
“Wenger was sacked for failing and finishing 6th. We’re currently 6th and have shown little to no improvement in the areas of the football side that were most pressing.”
Wenger finished 12 points of 4th and was on a downward spiral, Emery’s currently 3 points off 4th. But never mind there’s no agenda here.
Pierre
Where is your outcry for VAR on Aguero’s handball incident….is it because Emery is now manager..
“Wenger left more than an adequate legacy ”
An unbalanced squad in free fall is not an adequate legacy. His trophy haul might have been decent but that’s not a legacy.
The FA cup is a big trophy.. The Europa league is a Mickey mouse cup
Yet we are the ones with an agenda
Its actually nice of you to pick the name Charlie too
Some of the budget mentioned are just ridiculous. Nobody sane is going to buy Özil for 40 million and pay him the same amount than he is earning at Arsenal. We will have to either give at an heavily discounted price maybe even for free and the buying club pays his salary or we will have to subsidise his salary. Either case, unless we found a bigger fool, we are not going to save any financial expenditure on him. We might as well make use of him until the end of the season. I doubt that Mustafi could be sold… Read more »
“10 big trophies in 20 years
One every 2 seasons.!”
3 big trophies and 7 mickey mouse trophies…
Ruth
“PierreWhere is your outcry for VAR on Aguero’s handball incident….is it because Emery is now manager..”
I was going to mention it but it evened itself out as VAR would have penalised mustafi in the first few minutes for pulling back Aguero in the area so I didn’t bother .
“Arsenal are not going to shop at Harrods, more like Aldi and Wallmart.”
Exactly what Vierra said in 2001…
“and more importantly,we have won 3 FA cups in his 5 years at the club”
Funny we never finished outside the top 4 until Wenger signed Ozil.
Also worth noting Madrid won the Champions league after selling Ozil and playing Di Maria in midfield.
Wenger was sacked for finishing sixth so Unai Emery must also be sacked if he finishes sixth
Yet I’m the village idiot
Receding
Sure, but it’s also not the case that Rabiot would make for a bad CAM simply because he hasn’t always played that role or because gambon doesn’t think he’d make for a good CAM. I don’t have a strong opinion on the matter, but when I have seen Rabiot in advanced positions, I think he has looked pretty good.
Pierre
Fuck off lying cunt…you’ve been undermining Emery ever since he got the job..
Marc
What did you think of the tactics and formation for the city game….
Talk tactics not wenger , not the players ….Emery’s tactics.
CC You’re weren’t able to provide any metric that you used to determine that “[Emery[he’s failing the Arsenal job” in the first week of Feb when we are only three points behind fourth place, Receding does have a point that you being circumspect and repeatedly doing a tap dance around Wenger. I recall you slamming Kroenke after every poor Wenger showing. You weren’t pleased about the result but you always pretended as if Kroenke picked the starting 11. Emery is an orphan at Arsenal. No one will miss him when he’s gone. You can have him fired to tomorrow and… Read more »
Bamford I don’t think he will be a top class CAM.
The truth hurts Ruth , it’s not looking good is it .
Marc Agreed. Ornstein made a good point that when Emery was appointed he was told by Arsenal they saw 2019/20 as the season to start to look competitive again, they knew this would take 3-5 transfer windows and that just tells you everything about the thoughts on what has been left. Interesting as well he says everyone nodded along to that and now some have changed their minds and expect a 6th placed side on a downward trajectory to instantly look a safe top 4 side in the first year. It’s good to hear Ornstein say everyone in the club… Read more »
Exactly, no one here actually gives a shit about Emery
What I won’t stand idly by and watch though is Wenger’s fanboys flooding this Space demanding for better tactics,lol, defensive solidity, today is our anniversary of losing a four goal lead at Newcastle… And telling everyone the new gaffer must better Wenger in every aspect by February
There’s something wrong with Rabiot
I can’t put a finger but somewhere in his psyche there’s a very cantankerous lost young man.
He and his agent-mother have disrupted everything they’ve touched. They used Arsenal the last time to get a better deal from PSG, they had Wenger [who tried his best] twisted like a pretzel. Barca wouldn’t even touch him on a free transfer. They decided to pay big money for Frenkie De Jong instead.
Love Emery’s contempt for Ozil
Receding
He needs to better wenger in any aspect not every aspect. So far he’s as bad as wenger was at his worst
#learntocode
Cesc
“It’s good to hear Ornstein say everyone in the club is very calm, they know what has to happen and how long it will take.”
This is what several people here were saying all through the 2016-2017 season when placards were being raised and placard carrying planes were the norm.
The rebuild job will take time. There’s a lot of garish ignorance abounding among the fans especially here on legrove.
Un na nai
Glad to have back from buying property or is it taking your daughter to Vegas
Wenger’s best was not good enough to win a European trophy.