Arsenal under new leadership looks exactly the same as the old Arsenal we thought we’d left behind. The sum total of what we delivered in a 3-1 loss was 15 minutes of football that looked interesting. The main celebration of Arsenal fans post-game centred around not losing by 8 goals, as many feared we’d be revisiting that fateful Manchester disasterclass of 2011.
That’s a depressing new low 9 months into a new regime.
I don’t think anyone was really expecting Emery to deliver a blistering win, but I also don’t think anyone expected Arsenal to go down so meekly. Emery was pitched as a master tactician, a man who had a plan for every player, an energetic motivator who was furious at the fitness levels of the players, and on a mission to hold players accountable for their pitiful attitude towards winning. What he delivered yesterday was another shambles shielded by the fact that he has a free season pass with a huge group of the fans who seem to believe that patience and money will iron out the kinks in a body of issues that looks more like coaching issues.
The starting 11 was odd. Emery opted for 4-4-2. He chose to play Iwobi, he once again picked Lichtsteiner, and he left Suarez, Ramsey and Ozil on the bench.
We paid the price within 50 seconds. Guendouzi had tried to move the ball out of our box, he played into Iwobi who dithered and lost the ball, Lichtsteiner was too slow to realize what was going on, Mustafi played everyone onside, and Aguero was found with a diving header he easily put past Leno who jumped the wrong way. We were so stretched early on it was hard to work out what the formation was at times, but what was clear is the defence was shell shocked and hadn’t a clue how to settle.
Arsenal did come back into the game with a great set piece goal from Laurent Koscielny. Torriera found Monreal at the front post, the ball was knocked on for a simple headed goal. We had City rattled for a good 15 minutes, Guendouzi and Torriera were doing as solid a job in midfield as they could considering how outnumbered they were and we nearly took advantage of a few pieces of shoddy defending. But ultimately, we weren’t set up to take advantage of the weaknesses in City’s armour. Our strikers were playing too deep, Auba is ineffective against great sides that control the midfield, we had no width, and our creativity was limited to Iwobi.
To make matters worse, as always with this Emery side, we didn’t have the maturity to see out an advantage into half time, a now chronic issue almost as debilitating to our progress as not winning away from home last season.
Fernandinho had time to pick out Sterling on the right, Lichtsteiner pottered over, the ball was cut back to Gundogan who clipped a ball back over the defence first time, our right back had lost Sterling trying to clear his lines, the ball was volleyed across goal where Aguero was on hand to finish unmarked for the second time.
Emery didn’t do anything to change things at halftime, I thought he might switch to three at the back and introduce some creative talent. We’d not given Lacazette or Auba a single chance the whole half, you felt if we addressed that, we might have made things more interesting.
As it happened, City came gunning for us in the second 45, and we were finished by 60 minutes. Aguerro found Sterling out on the right, Iwobi wasn’t covering, Lichtsteiner couldn’t deal with the pace, a simple cross found Aguero for his third tap-in of the night.
The manager tried to chase the game after that by introducing Denis Suarez for his debut and giving Rambo a run-out, but the players had essentially given up. They knew it was over and they didn’t want to go down fighting. Emery himself seemed to follow their lead offering up Mavrapanos as a 79th-minute sub.
Worth noting that Suarez dropped a debut so bad, there’s a compilation of it. It’s only one game, but I’ve seen him plenty of times before, I’m really struggling to see what he’s brought to the table that we don’t already have at the club. He doesn’t give us width, he’s not physical and he’s slow.
Arsenal were chasing a game in the second half and we managed to register ZERO attempts at the City goal. We couldn’t even provide a wild shot at goal from 40 yards (miss u, Xhaka).
The two bright spots for me were Matty G and Lucas T. Those two worked tirelessly and deserved more out of the game. Matty G is such a great player, I love his ferocity and work ethic, his lanes of passing and his growing confidence. What a star we have there. It’s telling that he’s our most important player at the minute, this reminds me of Jack in his breakthrough year. Let’s hope we take care of MGs body a little better.
So in conclusion, it was 3 points we were all expecting to drop, but a match that once again exposed the manager as lukewarm at the highest level. He made a lot of mistakes yesterday and I think that’s 13 games he’s failed to best Pep. I think this comment after the game was very telling.
“Our players have the mentality that when we are worse than the opposition we feel that.’’
Apparently, that line isn’t a translation issue, he said it over and over again. Though it might be true, you do wonder if Emery was wise to say it? The team are clearly struggling with inconsistent ideas, indecision with team selection and interchanging tactics. I’m not sure throwing stones is smart when you opt to play two strikers and leave all your creativity on the bench. Is Emery really surprised the players didn’t believe when he started Lichtsteiner despite knowing he’s finished at the highest level?
Inferiority issues usually stem from the leader. You’ll always come up against bigger and better-equipped opponents, the key is to find stratagems that convince your soldiers the fight is winnable.
Whatever the reason, Emery’s observation was correct, you absolutely knew that when Arsenal walked out on that pitch they had no hope of winning that game. The players didn’t look like they knew what they were doing and there was the same lack of belief we’d have under Wenger. The interesting thing about the comment is earlier in the season, we were celebrating the shift in mentality under Emery, a manager who said he refused to let his players play like cowards, a manager who had reinvigorated the dressing room with a winning mentality. The proof points were a succession of late winners, games turned around at half time, and 22 games unbeaten (I was saying it too!).
What are we saying now? Was that a mirage? Is it now back to Wenger’s team after 9 months? Do we have to go on a Stalinist purge to rid every single player that had a word whispered to him by our ex-manager before we can be fully satisfied that the new coach has been given the best possible chance?
We are 9 months into this project and we’re on course to concede 57 goals this season. We’ve shipped 13 goals in our 4 big away games so far this season. We look an absolute mess. There was no organisation yesterday, senior players were making basic mistakes (players that have been making mistakes all season), and the tactical hypothesis we went for in leaving our creative players on the bench ended up punishing us because the pragmatism didn’t equate to better defending.
Arsenal didn’t have to travel this week, so they’ve had time to prepare for this game. We conceded 12 shots on target from 19 attempts. That is miserable, but we did the same away at Chelsea (13) and Liverpool (10). Just to put it in perspective because I know we had injuries, Newcastle limited City to 4 shots on target the week before. Even Huddersfield, a team in a terrible state, managed to reduce City to 4 shots on target. Defending is a team game, and we’re not doing it well. Even worse, both the aforementioned sides registered the same number of shots on target as us (2), both had more attempts.
If there is such thing as winning ugly, then yesterday was an example of Arsenal losing ugly. City were average, but as always, we are exactly the team you want to play when you’ve hit a bumpy patch. We’ll always roll over and take it. I knew we’d have problems this season, but I thought we’d see a sharper vision of a new Arsenal sooner. I thought at the very least, if we went down, we’d go down fighting. I didn’t expect the coach to be slaying his player’s mentality in February, especially when 6 of the starting 11 were players bought in during the Sven era (the remaining 5 all capped at international level).
You can attribute yesterday to Wenger all you like, you can plead for more money and patience, but you cannot escape the reality that Emery was hired in as a prestigious head coach of Arsenal and he’s failing across the board. The video analysis hype doesn’t seem to be translating onto the pitch. Maybe players can’t concentrate for the hour or so he spends talking to them, maybe the ideas aren’t good? Whatever Emery and his team are doing defensively, we’re getting worse.
‘I like the possession with the ball, I like good pressing against the other team. I prefer to win 5-4 than win 1-0.’
Today we registered 2 shots on target both shots coming from defenders. The pressing game isn’t really there. The players are not getting better individually. Stylistically, we’re still awful to watch.
That’s on the coach.
Today’s result was expected, the question you have to ask yourself is whether that was the sort of loss that’s driving towards a better Arsenal. For me, all I could take out of that was the dread that we have a manager out of his comfort zone and as a result is shifting his own narrative from a power point mastermind who had a plan to coach us into the next level, to just another drab chequebook manager who needs two seasons to make improvements (remember the press defending Moyes in the same way?).
That’s not what we were sold people because if it were, you’d not have bought it.
Remember, there is nothing rational in calling for patience and investment in a person who isn’t delivering improvement. There is nothing sensible in taking a drab path if you don’t need to. Bruce Rioch hit his objectives in his first season at Arsenal and David Dein took the rational decision to dispense of his services for Arsene Wenger. That’s great leadership. Let’s hope Raul has that in him should the season continue to head south.
Would love to hear your thought in the comments.
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Dissenter
Agreed.
We all spent years talking about the slide this club was on, if you don’t have £400 Million you’ve got to climb back up and the thing in football is bad decisions, like Ozil, impact on your for years.
A lot of the criticism on here is agenda driven, either ‘Wenger wasn’t that bad’ or I wanted a baggage handler as manager or special sauce sprayed all over the club in which case just appoint someone from your local kebab place.
I think Liverpool were surprised about hos quickly it took them to return back to the CL. It wasn’t so much of Klopp but Wenger’s stupidity. The 2016-2017 season finished with Liverpool pipping us by ONE point to finish fourth. That was the same season that Wenger REFUSED to buy central defenders early in the summer even though Kosh was down with Achilles tendinitis and Mertascaker was crocked. We had to play Chamber and Holding in the center of defense. We lost 3-4 on the opening day. Had we done our business early, Liverpool wouldn’t have qualified ahead of us.… Read more »
“You’re weren’t able to provide any metric that you used to determine that [Emery[he’s failing the Arsenal job” in the first week of Feb when we are only three points behind fourth place,“ It’s been covered chapter and verse, we have no identity as a team, are worse defensively than last season, the football is drab, the future for the team is totally indiscernible, the same major coaching flaws of last season are emerging. You might do well to actually pay attention to what’s being written instead of trying to swing your dick. Always pretendedas if Kroenke picked the 11?… Read more »
Dissenter ‘I believe the buck stops at Kroenke’s table for all the aforementioned . It’s a failure of oversight and not defining a vision that Kroenke is responsible for. He doesn’t need to put in a single cent.’ It does stop at his table, but arsenal are currently so far behind the top five, I believe right now, Kroenke does have to put in money. From where arsenal are currently , persevering with self sustainability is the wrong move, on and off the pitch. A less successful arsenal also means an arsenal with ever shrinking commercial revenue. Sometimes, and let’s… Read more »
CC
With all due respect you would say 100 words of Kroenke abuse -but not utter one word to slam Wenger as he repeatedly stumbled around in the dark.
It could be that you thought directing you abuse to the passive owner was more appropriate but you certainly spared Wenger back then.
Well said, Pedro. I think there is a lot of emperor’s new clothes about Emery – we had the PR guff about his dossiers and his plans, the interviews he gives about pressing and what he is pleased with etc. None of it adds up, especially when you see a match like that. The word that seems endemic to his teams is ‘disjointed’. There is little discernible plan, tactics or formations which stick over time. While getting beat by MC is no surprise, or shame, the way the players handled it, and the way the manager set up his stall… Read more »
Dissenter Don’t give me the “with all due respect” bollocks you weasel, you’ve been playing jester to the crowd and making snide remarks for weeks. I notice these things so spare me. I criticised Wenger numerous times, but I drew the line in calling the guy names of which others did. I don’t have the same constraint with Kroenke for a very simple reason, Arsene Wenger is an Arsenal legend and gave this football club at least a decade of brilliant memories whatever your view might be of him in 2019. Kroenke has done fuck all but sit idly by… Read more »
FYI
I don’t deride Konstantinos Mavropanos.
He’s a bright prospect same as Saka and Emile Smith Rowe. Only time will tell but I won’t be writing Paeans for him yet.
I think he may be one for the future but right now it’s silly to start building around one with only two competitive starts.
Into the Red
“””Leaving better players on the bench, and then criticising them and the team afterwards is terrible management, “””
Very accurate.
And Succinctly put
A certain posters toys are out the pram tonight. He is calling anyone he can idiots and what not.
Dissenter “There’s something wrong with Rabiot I can’t put a finger but somewhere in his psyche there’s a very cantankerous lost young man. He and his agent-mother have disrupted everything they’ve touched. They used Arsenal the last time to get a better deal from PSG, they had Wenger [who tried his best] twisted like a pretzel. Barca wouldn’t even touch him on a free transfer. They decided to pay big money for Frenkie De Jong instead.” Heh This is why Arsenal may get a shot at signing him. He’s seen as a bit shall we say damaged goods. The real… Read more »
Numerous humiliations at home and abroad cement Wenger’s reputation as a rogue.
How thick can a manager be to not get past the last 16:of the Champions league for 7 straight seasons
People genuinely think that we want Emery to fail ,which is ridiculous He doesn’t need our help to fail ,he’s doing a perfectly good job of that by himself. During our unbeaten run some were fooled into believing that Emery was this master tactician who would be losing or drawing at half time then magically made these substitutions and tactical changes and hey presto, we win the match . It didn’t fool me ,I often said “I’m not sure if he is a genius or lucky” knowing deep down that he was enjoying a large slice of luck . What… Read more »
The stuff coming from Ornstine is painful to hear but I’m glad people inside the club realise the mess we’re in, you can’t have a resolution unless you know the problem. Surprised by the love for Wenger’s baby’s on here though, they downed tools over the last year or so, probably let Wenger down (reciprocal) and are all causing a major headache for the club. Ozil, Miki, Mustafi, and others have all been and continue to be a criminal waste of cash. Don’t think it actually matters who our manager is over the next 2 years, we’re stuck 5/6th until… Read more »
Pep Guardiola insists Tottenham, Chelsea and Manchester United remain in the title race along with Manchester City and Liverpool in his pregame talk.
That is how low Pep thinks about Arsenal. I couldn’t blame him. We couldn’t create a single scoring chance for a whole half.
Pierre with a passionate defense of our world class players against the tyranny of Emery
A few seasons ago Arsenal had zero shots on target in two games against Chelsea.
Thank fuck Wengerball is consigned to the dustbin of history..
Pierre, your no Emery fan, I’m not in love either, not by a long shot and if we could get a current star to come Emery can go tomorrow but….
Emery is not failing, there is tangible evidence.
We can’t attract a top draw manager.
Our squad is woeful.
A punt (Arteta) could be equally as damaging as impressive.
Emery is safe if not spectacular.
Your drilling the Emery thing but it’s fucking boring and totally missing the point.
We need to keep the ship steady for 2-3 years at least.
@ Unai
You should also mention we have limited resources to buy new players who can help us compete.
Your drilling the Emery thing but it’s fucking boring and totally missing the point.
Nailed it. Control the bitterness Pierre your boring as hell. Hater !
If the 45m to spend in the summer is true that’s a joke!!! Why not boycott the first half of Manu game, speak to fellow gooners whose go to games & see if its possible to protest outside during the first half. There will be a 100 TV stations broadcast the game Live. 1000s of empty seats would be a massive embarrassment to Kroenke. But will Fans be willing to sacrifice half a game? My be the only way. By doing nothing fans are not support the club but supporting that greedy parasite.
“That is how low Pep thinks about Arsenal. I couldn’t blame him. We couldn’t create a single scoring chance for a whole half.”
Yeah, we had been competing for league every year for the past 10 years until Emery showed up.
Redruth, trolling like he’s got nothing to do. Who would have guessed?
Pierre why did we sack Wenger? We were winning FA cups for fun, Ozil was creating chances like a machine, all was well with the club, why did we abandon the good times for this charlatan?
Receding
More personal attacks? Can’t Address the point?
Emery is as shit now as wenger was at his worst
The Wengerites were warned time and time again about the storm brewing, that the rebuilding job was growing bigger each year now they come and harp on about the mess they helped create.
They talked of Wenger, the last legacy manager, well welcome to Wenger’s legacy.
“Emery is as shit now as wenger was at his worst”
8-2…. Next
You’ve got nothing to prove otherwise.
Yep now being the operative word…Wenger was lord and master over the club and ended up running it into the ground… Have you had a look at our financials? We have a wage bill that’s through the roof yet where is the value for that money? Oh I forgot you believe our squad is up there with the best in Europe. As you were then
“More personal attacks? Can’t Address the point?“
His true colours have come out, there’s a village missing their idiot as we speak.
You should know, bet your phone log has missed calls aplenty.. Do try and get back to the village Charlie.. Right after you calm down.
I’m amused at what this true colors of mine is supposed to be….I am not the one who has called about three to four posters idiots just for disagreeing with me …
The fact of the matter is, we still aren’t worse than last season. Yeah we are leaking goals like a sieve, but we are still scoring goals too. Our play hasn’t been properly defined, but we still managed to not lose for 21 games. We have had an injury crisis, but it’s happening to the same injury prone players that have been injured every season. And despite what Charlie George says Welbeck and holdings injuries were impact injuries not over playing. Yeah a player may be fatigued after 3 games in a week, but geez mate, they should be fit… Read more »
Gobergooner stop showing your true colors
Unai
Yes and he still finished top 4 that year
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NelsonFebruary 5, 2019 20:30:37
Pep Guardiola insists Tottenham, Chelsea and Manchester United remain in the title race along with Manchester City and Liverpool in his pregame talk.
That is how low Pep thinks about Arsenal. I couldn’t blame him. We couldn’t create a single scoring chance for a whole half.
The same Pep that lost to Newcastle?
“You should know, bet your phone log has missed calls aplenty.. Do try and get back to the village Charlie.. Right after you calm down.“
Regurgitating what I say to you, how very original. I’m doing some paperwork and writing some reports, the fact you think I need to calm down is hilarious. Nothing say rattled me, you just continue to play your hand and expose the truth to your moronic ways.
Goober, spot on.
I think what people fail to realise is the size of the job to rebuild both on and off field and we needed to remove Wenger to make the required changes.
If Wenger was still in charge he would probably have objected to (at least some of) the changes being made along with the shared responsibility model.
We couldn’t do this with Wenger, at least we can with Emery.
Receding
It’s cute that you’re desperately trying to recruit folk on this crusade of yours. The village idiot needs to appeal to an audience because his knuckle dragging doesn’t stand up.
WoW! I accidentally caught between the cross fire of the two camps. I was just reporting what Pep said in his Pregame talk. I only care about the CURRENT team. I don’t give a shit what happened in the past. How would that help our current team?
Un, seriously…. Not even funny
Unai
“If Wenger was still in charge he would probably have objected to (at least some of) the changes being made along with the shared responsibility model.”
you are correct in that assumption and that is part of the reason why it was time for wenger and the club to part ways.
CC
‘Arsene Wenger is an Arsenal legend and gave this football club at least a decade of brilliant memories whatever your view might be of him in 2019.
Kroenke has done fuck all but sit idly by while his asset appreciates in value by contrast, so don’t expect me to treat him with anywhere near the same courtesy.’
Well said.
Recruit
Crusade
Appeal to an audience
You take what happens here way too seriously Charlie
Doing paperwork? Well maybe you should concentrate then unless you are relearning your ABC’s
You can always start supporting the club again after Benitez is appointed
In fact, can anyone actually come up with a single positive Kroenke has brought to Arsenal football club?
alexanderhenry
Stop trying to set up a straw argument?
Kroenke vs Wenger?
How about we argue sun vs moon, which one is more important.
Kroenke + Wenger + Gazidis = Axis of evil
One indifferent and distant. He failed to define his vision for the club.
The other didn’t know when to quit even when he was running on fumes
…and if course the snake charmer who lied his way into Pedro’s heart
Why not lump all the individuals together?
“In fact, can anyone actually come up with a single positive Kroenke has brought to Arsenal football club?”
He finally fired Wenger!!!
Receding
It’s not a question of taking what’s said here seriously. It’s a matter of seeing past the bullshit and being attentive to the petty nonsense that litters the place, of which you’re always part of.
Now I don’t support the club because I rate Rafa more than Emery? Expert logic from you.
My Abc’s are ok thanks, maybe worry more about yours. I’m fact I’d worry more about yourself in general, I’m doing just fine.
Charlie Receding has written a number of excellent comments today, and unlike you, he doesn’t make a habit of verbally abusing or insulting others, calling them “knuckle-draggers,” etc. He just makes arguments, and pretty good ones, IMO. I don’t always agree with him — we’ve even had some fairly heated disagreements — but he is generally an intelligent and fair-minded guy. You and I have a long history and I can only anticipate the kind of nasty reply I will likely get to this, but honestly, you’re the one who is being a jerk here, not Receding. Also, “knuckle-dragging”? That’s… Read more »
Goobergoona
“People want attacking football and complain when we lose.
But if we sat back like a Newcastle against a city, and just parked the bus people would also complain.”
For this one match I think almost 100% of Arsenal fans would have loved to see us park the bus and come away with a 0-0 or a sneaky 1-0 victory .
It would have given us some inclination that Emery knows what he’s doing tactically
I am doing okay Charlie thanks for caring
Cheers Bamford…like you said we have had our run ins but you never took it personal, same with Gambon and many others, Charlie just considers it a crime when anyone agrees with him and out comes the insults. He even called dissenter an idiot today, a guy who doesn’t insult anyone.
*disagrees not agrees obviously
Very little tactics involved in packing ten men behind the ball Pierre and to be fair to Rafa that wasn’t even how he beat City. He actually attacked them
Banford When another poster misrepresents countless points being made and gives “answers” to something else entirely it displays a lack of intelligence. Especially when said points are outlined on numerous occasions and the poster continues to rehash them in such a way to promote a negative view of the person making the original comment. In short, Receding is a classic dickhead who refuses to hear anything critical about Emery. He refuses any and all arguments along these lines and goes further to mock the POV being shred that does exactly this. Hence his constant reference to Rafa Benitez today and… Read more »
Back to that paperwork then big guy
Receding I’ve disagreed plenty with people on here about various topics, so that’s another bogus claim to add you your list. I don’t tolerate idiots arguing me against things I’ve not stated, or taken what I’ve said and removed all context to attamept to undermine me. You’ve done that, Dissenter has done that, ergo you’re both a couple of idiots for doing so. Hilarious too that you cite Dissenter as someone who doesn’t insult anyone, beggars belief you actually think you’re fooling people with your charade. PhD could make you look a cunt in one post with a quick copy/paste… Read more »
Over to you PhD …Charlie needs your help with some copy and paste. He is busy with paperwork and has no time for idiots.
“Back to that paperwork then big guy“
Let me concern myself with that, worry about your own line of work or job seeking.
Banford
And you’re actually asking why I’ve called the guy an idiot? Just read ffs, idiot is doing him a favour.
CC
For someone doing paperwork, you certainly have a lot of time on your hands.
It seems Receding is living rent free in the palatial mansions between your ears these days. He’s hardly insulted you, just given you a lot of witty rebuttals that set you reeling. Grab a hold of yourself
Calm down mate.
You’re throwing lots of abuse around. It’s actually unbecoming of you. You used to be the master of sophistry on this site, these days it’s all petty abuse.
And you’re actually asking why I’ve called the guy an
idiot? Just read ffs, idiot is doing him a favour.
lmao.
Charlie is very calm… Probably just the paperwork. He might be having issues with the L,M,N,O,P part of the alphabet recital he is working on, it can be tricky for beginners .
I thought AW fans would have left with him but Ozil inherited them. They can pray all they like for UE to fail but the harsh reality is, Ozil Arsenal career is over.
Dissenter
You’ve not paid too much attention to the inputs today if that’s your take. He’s argued anything but the POV I’ve shared, and constantly cites Rafa out of nowhere.
I’m calm a plenty, happily sifting through my notes and backhanding his continued attempts at wit. I find Americans have a strange intolerance to any sort of slight, is calling someone an idiot really grounds for “abuse”? What a world.
Dissenter
You won’t find a harsher critic of gazidis than me. All that nonsense about being up there with bayern munich. He’s gone though.
Wenger in his latter years became out of touch, dictatorial, disrespectful to fans, delusional and incompetent especially on the big signings and wage deals he was eventually allowed to make.
The old man hung on too long. He’s gone as well though.
It’s just Kroenke now. He’s got to step up.
That’s the interesting thing for Stan, he’s got nowhere to hide now and the fans have no connection with him, if things go badly it could get difficult for him.
Unai
Let’s hope so. Maybe he’ll sell up. We can dream.
Unai that explains why Gazidis took flight
No more hiding behind old man Wenger, he knew how badly they had mismanaged resources. Telling the story last month about Milan wanting Ozil and he refusing point blank. A player he committed 64m to for Arsenal
I see No reason why anyone who criticises Emery should be called Wenger apologist. if you don’t have any thing to counter what has been said then ignore than coming up with things people never said and start portraying it as gospel. we win, its Emery’s arsenal. we loose it’s Wenger’s arsenal. this is the popular opinion by some here. I don’t beleive any managercan come in, with our financial problem and turn us to a league challenger but I expect to see certain changes that indicate the presence of the new manager. Emery tinkers a lot with the formation… Read more »
Have been on the blog for most of the day and only one poster has used the word idiot. Guess the rest aren’t very British then. I don’t also come across it while reading through British newspapers and articles… Wonder why since it’s a just a very normal British term for day to day convo
GunnerDNA
You nearly got it right ..
What has happened is that all the wenger obsessives( haters) have turned into Ozil haters .
But that was easy to predict .
“I see No reason why anyone who criticises Emery should be called Wenger apologist. if you don’t have any thing to counter what has been said then ignore than coming up with things people never said and start portraying it as gospel.“
Spot on.
The debate on interesting.
Champagne charlie is a Wenger apologist. I will repeat this anyday anytime. He can fume, rage and names all he likes.
FYI no one gives a shit about Emery. He can get sacked tomorrow and no one would care. We will still be in the same shit we are in though until we start replacing the crap we call players starting from Ozil.
“Champagne charlie is a Wenger apologist. I will repeat this anyday anytime. He can fume, rage and names all he likes.“
Except I’m not remotely fuming or raging, and I’ve deconstructed your pathetic assertion three times already.
So maintain whatever view you like, your rigidity and intolerance to debate/reason is on full view to all.
Our best hope – I could say our only hope – is Emery. Certainly, no help will be coming from Stan. Those who continue to make excuses for him, or hope for better from him, astonish me. They should be shuddering to think what nasty secrets will emerge (eventually) from Delaware.
Emery must be given a free hand. This summer we can expect major surgery from him. By now he must be aware of the hopeless cases. There are others he might prefer to keep, but will sell to raise money. It will take time.
englandsbest
Agreed that Emery must be given a free hand, but it’s a free hand with a small purse which is annoying.
Pierre
GunnerDNAYou
“nearly got it right ..What has happened is that all the wenger obsessives( haters) have turned into Ozil haters . But that was easy to predict”
You will forever see it as hate if you don’t believe in reality. That’s it from me though, because I’m not professionally trained to deal with AW and Ozil apologist.
Pierre
“For this one match I think almost 100% of Arsenal fans would have loved to see us park the bus and come away with a 0-0 or a sneaky 1-0 victory .It would have given us some inclination that Emery knows what he’s doing tactically”
I definitely agree there.
I still can’t justify in my mind how Licht started the match, even with the injuries we have.
Seriously though and I’m just repeating what everyone knows, but how much different our team would look with 2 players even half as good as mane, sane, sterling or mahrez on our wings. Our fullbacks wouldn’t need to overlap to create the attack on every occassion. Pierre would be satisfied with that for sure as they could be in more defensive positions more of the time. The ability to put someone on the back foot is sorely missing in this team. We get way too cramped up in mid and defense where their isn’t enough breaking the lines with either… Read more »
The David Ornstein interview is worth a listen on the latest Arsecast Extra over at Arseblog.
lol at ppl rating Arsenal squad above 6th in PL.
without Laca and PEA we will be fighting relegation. Leno Mateo and Lucas have future, few potential Pl prospects rest is done or crap regardless of manager.
If we dont get cl by bit of lack and Emery hard work and dont spend big in the summer this downward spiral will continue. And on top of that akb trolls running amok like its untold. Sad times next few months will be very interesting.
Ornstein confirming what we’ve being saying a long time. Our transfer kitty has to cater for wages as well as the sticker price for the player. If so £100m isn’t going to go very far especially for top players.
If this is true all the more important that we sell the players at the fringes to raise more funds.
This is with a top stadium behind us. I thought we moved to the Emirates to compete not just to survive.
Unless this Suarez boy has an absolute cracker with us the £18m price seems just like we’re rolling over to Barca’s demands.
We need to think better than just Barcelona rejects bought at their set prices.
How the hell are wages in the transfer budget? I get maybe the first seasons but not the whole lot. What the actual fuck is going on at arsenal?
Though I don’t have much of a clue on financials to be honest
Or is this the amortisation that was being talked about earlier?
And how much of a difference does selling a player and recouping his wages make then?
Let’s see the potential added funds by selling the players (if true that we’ll only limited to 40m joke summer trf fund):
– We’ll be lucky to get 15-20m max for Mustafa the clown.
– We’ll be lucky to get 15-20m max for Xhaka the Snail.
– We’ll be lucky to get 15-20m max for Mhkitarian the Armenian Borat.
– We’ll be lucky to get 5-10m max for Elneny.
So added to estimated 60m potential sales, we’ll get 100m transfer kitty if those 4 players can be sold and free up some modest wages burden.
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I may be wrong but it seems like arsenal are special in managing their wages into their transfer budget this way
If so, what I want to know is why do Arsenal have to be special? I see absolutely no evidence that it has done us any favours whatsoever compared with our rivals
Goober,
we have 385m transfer revenue in 2018, but
we cost 210m in wages in 2018 and currently around 233m, and if ozil won’t fuck off, we’ll be paying him up to 64m till 2021.
So until we free up some ridicoulus wages, we can not afford to high transfer funds since we adopted seld sustainable bollocks way, unless the hairy balls moustachce silent Stan will drop his own money to help the trf fund.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6669467/Why-Arsenal-just-45m-spend-summer-transfer-window.html#comments
this link is a good read to understand the calamity we’re in.
Yeah I really don’t understand why people pledge loyalty to any of the ‘axis of evil’ from the last 5 years As was said, stan has been a fucking dismal owner. He oversaw the complete dismantling of the club’s elite status and actively renewed the contracts (with huge salary increases) for the man making it happen Gazidis was a total cunt. It’s hard to express his value in terms any more glowing than that. Wenger was a legend who fell from grace and got drunk on power, losing his way and shitting on the fans and the club on his… Read more »
*385m just revenue in 2018.
This Summer, our priorities surely have to be shredding the wages. Ozil (300k) (10m transfer fee) Mikki (160k) (8m transfer fee) Licht (80k?) (2m transfer fee) Ramsey (100k) (free) Welbz (80k) (free) Koscielny (100k) (free? I don’t know if it’s his last year) El Neny (60k) (5m transfer fee) This would free up almost 900k/week (46m a year) in wages alone Transfer fee income from these would realistically get us 25m comfortably. El neny, welbeck, licht and Mikki should be replaced by youth within, so our wages would barely be impacted by replacing those 4. That leaves replacing Ozil, Ramsey… Read more »
Hahahaha mick,
The description you had for those players to sell cracked me up.
But thanks a lot for the help.
People go over it here all the time, but it’s a little lost on me.
So it’s all about reducing the wage bill to increase what is available to spend on transfers then.
Pretty simple haha.
Well said China! Haha
It really is extraordinary how absolutely attrocious our transfer business and wage policy has been over the last decade. Absolutely appalling, especially with someone like Stan who is a money man at the top who you would think would hate how much money is wasted. Too hands off for his own good the dumbass. Gazidis is an actual worm. I can’t think of anything positive he did for the the club. Even if the sacking and rehiring process was his, the way he just ditched it at the first sign of another offer tells you all you need to know… Read more »
The Europa League registrations recently announced demonstrates just how ill equipped Arsenal are if we progress in the tournament particularly in defence. The club have been compelled to register only 24 players, because we have only got 7 registered home grown players on books. The home grown list includes Bellerin, Holding and Welbeck all of whom are supposed to be out for rest of season!!! What makes the situation even more ridiculous is that Mavropanos has been left out of squad despite the fact that Koscielny is currently the only fit centre back!!! We could have registered 25 players and… Read more »
Players players players…money money money.
Again, Arsenal doesn’t have such a poor team (incl the manager), that they will play so utterly crass the way they performed against City.
That’s the reason someone needs to improve confidence level of the lads. something has gone terribly wrong in their minds.