Monchi sleuthing uncovers tasty tidbit + 3 directions Raul could take Arsenal

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Arsenal confirmed last week’s exclusive: Sven Mislintat is leaving in early February, dropping an American style short notice period. It marks an embarrassingly short tenure for a hire of such expense/fanfare and it really does demonstrate the damage of a shite succession plan.

The story really is a mixed bag. What is clear is he didn’t impress Ivan or Raul. The timeline of the narrative seems to be this:

  • Ivan promised Sven the Technical Director role when Arsene left. The German was hired with the promise of a promotion. Everyone in business generally knows that if you are hired into a sideways position, you’re usually being bullshitted (bullshat?) about a promotion that will never come.
  • Sven’s first act was to bring the Dortmund band back together. He led the signings of Mikhi, Auba, and Sokratis (rumoured he wanted Pulisic as well). All very expensive with little hope for a long-term return on investment. Were these signings at the behest of Ivan who wanted to shoot for CL short term? Or were they all on Sven?
  • He did bring some youth magic to the club. Lucas Torreira and Mavrapanos are Sven signings. There are conflicting reports over Guendouzi. I read that Wenger was a fan of MG and spoke to him, but then I’ve read that Emery was a huge pull for the player and his family.
    • Worth noting that the players Sven is responsible for were likely overspill from Dortmund. Perhaps that’s why there were rumblings of discontent from the Arsenal scouting team. Sven was just a name dropper, versus a change agent (process/tech/hires).
  • January comes around, the club is being linked heavily with players that look like they’re from the world of ‘contacts’ scouting. Suarez, Banega, James and Carrasco do not have the hallmarks of Sven. They are Emery and Raul teaming up.

Summary: Sven lost the power struggle. Raul and Emery ignored his recommendations. He didn’t impress enough to earn the promotion he wanted. He didn’t show up enough, which suggests his signings were black book specials. He had neither power nor the ear of the execs. He left.

So what’s next for Arsenal?

We could be looking to adopt a bit of the New England Patriots model.

The Patriots were $10 million over the NFL salary cap before Belichick’s arrival, and he quickly went about recruiting more affordable players that fit his system and philosophy. The result was a team that prioritized certain characteristics (toughness, intelligence, work ethic, ability to take coaching, and a team-first mentality), fit within the constraints of the salary cap, and allowed Belichick to develop a unique game plan for every opponent, and adapt on the fly.

“Whereas most people play the game, Belichick plays the opposition,” Wells says. “He adapts to the competition in order to beat them. It’s why he can win a Super Bowl with a largely mediocre roster—his players are adaptable. They play for each other and play for him, and they’ll do whatever they’re told to do to the best of their ability because of it. It goes to show what leadership and proper motivation can do.”

“Just like in business, a quick win is all very fine,” Wells says. “You can borrow from the balance sheet. You can hand out big contracts and bonuses to attract star players. But you mortgage the future. Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft don’t want to win once. They want to win over and over again. They know that’s how you build a fan base, that’s how you build a legacy, and that’s ultimately how you make money.”

Find players at elite clubs that have lost their way, offer them love and support, hope they repay you on the pitch. This method is also comparable to the one Wenger adopted in the early years. He gave old players a rebirth, he found value in markets no one else was looking in, and he took chances on broken players, he outperformed expectations on a budget.

Marc Overmars was a crock, PV04 was rotting on Milan’s bench, Thierry was a right wing back, Bobby P had an attitude problem at Marseille, and Nwankwo Kanu had had a heart attack!

The more I think about it, the more I try and convince myself that there’s value in an approach like this. Pepper in a few Nicolas Anelka’s (which might have been what Raul was trying to do with Malcolm last January) and we could make something happen. My only issue here is you really do need a next level coach to make something like this work (You also need to be finding actual gems as well).

We could also look to Sevilla and more recently Roma for inspiration. The genius of Monchi has been well covered on this site. He’s one of the best talent hunters in Europe. Importantly, he finds value in both young and older players (Raul seems to be of this view). He most recently gave Dzeko a rebirth at Roma, but his real speciality is finding young players like Ramos, Rakitic, Reyes, Dani Alves and Keita. He usually moves them on for huge sums of money, with the uncanny knack of replacing them without decimating the progress of the club he’s running. I also found this tidbit from a 2014 Graham Hunter article about the Spaniard.

This is chaotic for a meticulously planned coach like Sevilla’s Unai Emery and it cranks up the pressure on Monchi not to make a single slip. And there are so many areas wherein that slip could occur: who to sell, how much for, who to buy, what type of guy to bring into this flexible, intelligent, technical but very hard-pressing football philosophy.

You’d think it would stress him. But last year he spent the majority of the season in London, conducting his business from a rented flat there and learning to speak English. Such an endeavour will augment both his market skills and his market viability when, as eventually must happen, he follows the route favoured by his pupils.

He’s a secret Londoner!

He’d suit the Spanish vibe of the club and he’s clearly good pals with Emery. He’d be a comfort for the both of them and he’d have the fans moister than a Mr Kipling baked good. David Ornstein has him linked for the Technical Director role, with Francis Cagiago replacing Mislintat.

We could look the Red Bull franchise for inspiration, seeing as we’re done copying whatever Dortmund are up to. They have a system of coach and player creation that really is a force to be reckoned with. They’ve built a vision around hard pressing young players that are given the chance to play and shine before being moved on to bigger clubs. This is Rangnick on what he scouts for.

‘The difference between us and other clubs is that when we sign or scout new players, we are fishing in a very small pond. We only interested in players aged between 17 and 23, as from our experience, when you are 23 you are no longer a talent. If you look at other clubs and their development, you can see that players start their careers earlier than 10 years ago and finish earlier too. So we are only scouting those players. The maximum age is 23. The second difference is that in both clubs, we try to implement and play the same style of football and of course between the two clubs, we make use of synergies that can be developed out of those two factors.’

Big difference between RB and Arsenal is there’s a philosophy that runs across all the clubs they have under the RB name. This from The Blizzard.

Here are the principles: one, add maximum possibility to the team and act, don’t react. So you need to dictate the game with and without the ball, not through individuals. Two, use numerical superiority and let the ball run directly whenever possible, with no unnecessary individual action and with no fouls. Three, use transitions, switch quickly. Try to win back the ball within five seconds with aggressive pressing. After winning the ball back, play quickly straight away, play direct and vertically towards the opponent’s goal, surprise the disorganised opponent to get into the penalty area and shoot within ten seconds of winning the ball back.

Now, it would appear Raul and Emery don’t want Arsenal to be a developmental setup. They want instant success, which is totally up to them. I just don’t think Arsenal has the resources to be a force there. I think we should be growing out a Dortmund+++ model. Or to be more precise, a project youth with bells and whistles.

I also think we should be building out our coaching staff in the same way we’d like to approach players. Hire in specialists in pressing philosophy, find the coaches with the best ideas when it comes to attacking, find the people who dream of clean sheets and wake up with dirty ones.

That’s my concern with having no CEO and a lack of scrutiny of what Raul is up to. We spent 14 years trying to expel a manager who controlled to the club, now we’ve handed footballing decisions to two people who basically answer to no one (I know, I know, they have a Whatsapp group with Stan). Emery was already allowed to hire in his mates. They’ve already seen off Sven, and though it might have been deserved, the idea of Monchi coming in makes things look even more nepotistic.

All good if it’s working out, not so good if it isn’t.

Still, Monchi is a f*cking baller and he’s done it at 2 clubs. On the face of it, that’d be a stunning coup. Makes you wonder why we were even talking to Edu if the Spaniard was available?

The positive of all of this is at least we’re heading into the unknown. Beats the stagnant vibes of the Wenger years. Let’s hope the latest chapter is a clearer vision for how we get to success. More efficiency, more excitement, more of a footballing philosophy we can all buy into.

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Receding Hairline

Benitez achieves defensive solidity by playing a particular type of football ..There is actually a reason why he is at Newcastle at the moment.

Benitez would have been no more exciting or forward thinking a hire than Emery

gambon

Bamford

Chelsea and Arsenal are massive favourites for the EL.

In fact, if Chelsea weren’t in it, I would say we should absolutely be expecting to win it.

Champagne charlie

“As Graham and Wenger were like chalk and cheese I’m not sure what on earth you mean.“ Precisely that, my biggest criticism of the last few years has been our total lack of defensive appreciation. So IF we were to treat a season as a freebie, i’d sooner we went ultra-defensive in appointment to tip the balance a bit. Rafa Benitez was my choice in this mould of manager, he’s incredibly competent and his teams are organised as fuck before anything else. He also knows the league, the language, and how to work with a fuck stick of an owner.… Read more »

gambon

Highbury Legend

Roma made a £10m profit in the summer.

Arsenal spent £65m net

Are you under the impression that Arsenal are never allowed to spend money again or something?

Marc

Receding

Benitez is so much yesterdays man. Emery might not be the dazzling light people wanted but at least he’s current.

Champagne charlie

Receding

Congratulations, you managed to miss the point entirely. That happens when you have a default setting on a particular topic.

Marc

CC

Fuck it why not go with Fat Sam with Pulis as his assistant while you’re at it.

Good grief.

Receding Hairline

Congratulations, you managed to miss the point entirely. That happens when you have a default setting on a particular topic.

You should know all about default settings ..you have been on yours for quite sometime now just waiting for a chance to spew it, we should have gone for an unknown or an ultra defensive man in the new era rather than use a season to give a new man chance to work in his tactics

Receding Hairline

Fuck it why not go with Fat Sam with Pulis as his assistant while you’re at it

They know the language and can be ultra defensive ….good call

Marc

Receding

I’m actually shocked that some one here haven’t been all over Sarri for using a translator during his rant on Saturday.

Receding Hairline

I’m actually shocked that some one here haven’t been all over Sarri for using a translator during his rant on Saturday.

He probably didn’t notice since he is allergic to all things foreign, he would have changed the channel in disgust once the interview started, he actually missed a golden opportunity to buttress his over flogged point

Marko

All the hallmarks of a now classic Pedro daily routine. I just love how halfway through you’re just dropping in Emery’s name into a conversation about signings and the power struggle behind the scenes. Just cause. And the Red Bull stuff continues to be an alarming trend. All in all great post today didn’t really say much but you got your point across

Nelson

The reaction of the fans attending the game gives me confidence that there is still a degree of power over this new administration. I heard boos when Laca was subbed and singing when Giroud was introduced. If the team doesn’t win and also plays some boring football, fan protest will start very quickly. KSE will have no hesitation to act, since this new administration hasn’t won anything for the club yet, nor have they contributed to the building of the facility.

gambon

“It’s a good job they put the names of players on the back of shirts because if Gambon gets his way we’ll have an entirely new squad come August. No one will have a clue who anyone else is”

Like I say tough decisions….

That said, we would still have:

Leno
Bellerin
Sokratis
Holding
Mavropanos
Kolasinac or Monreal
Torreira
Guendouzi
Aubameyang
Lacazette

As well as prospects such as:

Willock
Smith-Rowe
Nelson
Saka
Amaechi
NKetiah

Marc

gambon

I was taking the piss a little – nothing serious!

Champagne charlie

“Fuck it why not go with Fat Sam with Pulis as his assistant while you’re at it.“ Oh good shout Marc, obviously you’re another that has trouble with a differing POV to your own. Rafa Benitez or Pulis…. yes, identical records and reputations in the game. @Receding No default setting from me ta, I’ve held a POV that’s ran pretty true to date so absolutely no need for me to ‘wait to spew’ anything as i’m only repeating what I said since the summer. I’ve not nailed my colours to any mast like you continue to do, you know it’s… Read more »

Charlie George

I am amazed that the consensus on here ssems that AMN won’t make it at Arsenal in his centre midfield position..

Playing him constantly in wing back roles is so detrimental to his confidence and fitness.

I feel he could be better player than Harry Winks.
Poch would never play winks in a full back position
Emery shoud take a leaf out of poch s book.

Just buy a robust right back.! 10 days to go before window shuts…. and have faith in our young players..

Other wise what is the point of our youth policy.?

Namibian Gooner

Gambon,

Who would you keep at CB?

Marc

Nelson I had this conversation with a mate the other day. His view was Kroenke doesn’t give a fuck about the fans. My point was he will if they stop turning up / buying tickets, it took a while for the fans to give up on Wenger it won’t take anywhere near as long if we don’t see things improving (that’s not an invitation for why hasn’t Emery sorted everything yet). The pressure will come from the new commercial deals we are doing. Does anyone think Adidas won’t ask questions if we’re stuck in 6th and playing in front of… Read more »

gambon

“Who would you keep at CB?”

I think Sokratis plus a top class partner could be a good combo.

I think Holding & Mavropanos are OK, but we would need another good squad player.

– New first choice CB
– Sokratis
– New squad CB
– Holding
– Mavropanos (Possibility of loan)

Holding is probably our second best CB. If we could get the squad to the point where he’s our 4th best CB, we wouldve done well.

Receding Hairline

Kudos on joining that level of poster.

Whatever Oga

I’ve held a POV that’s ran pretty true to date so absolutely no need for me to ‘wait to spew’ anything as i’m only repeating what I said since the summer

Default setting ….you have comprehension issues too?

Dissenter

Nelson “The reaction of the fans attending the game gives me confidence that there is still a degree of power over this new administration. I heard boos when Laca was subbed and singing when Giroud was introduced. ” The fans who sang for Giroud are unsophisticated babies. They sang for a few secnds then realised the player was playing formthe other side and then shut it. It was comical, that was no fan-power mate. It was fan silliness, same as the ones that boo Laca’s substitution. Emery has gotten it right [based on the final result] every time he’s pulled… Read more »

Marko

This club has botched the transition from Wenger worse than I thought possible. Only we could contrive to ‘recover’ from sacking Wenger haha farcical leadership…Your commentary there is precisioely why and Arteta-like managerial appointment was such an opportunity this past summer…This season is playing out as some predicted it would, 12 free months of football as we shuffle our deck…There’s a good chance we finish 6th again and will have wasted a freebie that could’ve been used to roll the dice somewhat. Surprising no one Charles. Emery is predictable but Arteta is so unknown that it surely was a missed… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Bellerin our for the season is no loss. He hasn’t looked good for three seasons.

Does Emery still have a job?

Dream10

So, Emery is recommending Monchi to become technical director. Why is Unai having any say in who gets hired? I thought his job was to coach the team?

gambon

On a serious note, what happens to the fee for Sala?

Doubt Cardiff had made payment yet, but contractually do they have to pay up?

Danny

Bellerin our for the season is no loss.
————————-
It is a loss because his replacements are worst than him.

Marko

Basically we had the scope to pick from either end of the spectrum and we chose a middle-lane guy. Disappointing, but not unsurprising from those in charge. I know right. On the one hand you have someone who’s got zero managerial experience a total gamble and on the other hand you have this manager (Benitez) who’s been bounced around from club to club and who’s at Newcastle and who’s to say that’s not his level now. And then you have Emery who just becomes available for nothing just after winning the treble in France and who’s won 3 European titles… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Danny

Our defence can’t get any worse.

Cesc Appeal

Some news doing the rounds that Arsenal are now ‘confident’ of getting Monchi and Roma are already worrying that they are going to lose him.

Not sure how reputable or whether this is just empty journalism but it would be some appointment.

Danny

Doubt Cardiff had made payment yet
—————————-
Imagine being the Cardiff official who told the bank to transfer the money………

Marc

D10

Well that depends on how involved he is. Recommending someone you know is good to your employer isn’t an issue – you just wouldn’t then expect to be involved in the interview process.

Marko

Thought that too gambon. Awful story though the lad didn’t really want to join them and has been thinking about it all month long and then decides to join them. Apparently he wasn’t even expected back at Nantes he just wanted to say goodbye to his teammates

Champagne charlie

“Default setting ….you have comprehension issues too?“

No, looks like you’re alone with those. Having a POV which contains concerns of what might play out, then witnessing those concerns play out, isn’t a ‘default setting’.

A default setting is your propensity to defend Emery from every piece of criticism received. Often not because the point itself is unfair or without basis, but because you have a particular disposition toward a poster. Shorthand for that is ‘tool’, I was merely being diplomatic.

gambon

Cesc

I really think its probably bullshit (Monchi)

When news broke that Sven was off, the first thing I said on Twitter was….because we’re getting Monchi.

I was joking, but thats what journalists do. They just spew a load of bollocks, then when one of their 40 guesses is right, they say “told you so”.

Marc

Cesc

Cut it out mate – I really don’t want to get my hopes up would rather sit back and see what happens. Far too much click bait out there.

Champagne charlie

Good grief, sources suggesting the plane in question had difficulties in take-off and had to attempt it 3 or 4 times before successfully getting airborne.

I know fuck all about aviation, but that surely (if true) is a red flag for negligence on the part of the operating service? I’m sat eyebrow raised when my car doesn’t start up properly first time around, wouldn’t catch me in a plane that had to circle a runway 3 or 4 times.

Cesc Appeal

Gambon Marc

I’m going to choose to just go along with it and imagine a summer presided over by Monchi.

It’s pretty great over here. Join me.

Marko

So IF we were to treat a season as a freebie, i’d sooner we went ultra-defensive in appointment to tip the balance a bit. Stop saying freebie season ffs. You do realize had we appointed Arteta it would have been a freebie season anyway because he has zero experience and would be learning on the job. Not to mention that he wouldn’t have been involved in the signings and would have been given the same budget. As for the defensive balance that Benitez would have brought his last two seasons at Napoli he conceded 39 and 54 league goals. Not… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Often not because the point itself is unfair or without basis, but because you have a particular disposition toward a poster.

Don’t flatter yourself, i barely notice you

Un na naai

Charlie GeorgeJanuary 22, 2019 14:06:30
I am amazed that the consensus on here ssems that AMN won’t make it at Arsenal in his centre midfield position..

Charlie George

They sharpen their knives for anyone English or from the wenger era.

Receding Hairline

Don’t know how being in contention for the European places in january with 15 games to go can be considered as a freebie season. If it was a freebie season why the outrage when results started going badly.

With Arteta are we supposed to smile and part his head during this freebie season while he learns how to be a manager? Or we sit back and watch our players defend for their lives in 70% of games under Benitez and say well it’s a freebie season.

Left testicle

Come on Hector, that cast is so last season darling – it needs accessorizing!

Marko

Monchi has been linked with United too in the past few months so it’s not like there’s no interest in him or that he’s dead certain to stay at Roma.

Un na naai

Stop saying freebie season ffs. You do realize had we appointed Arteta it would have been a freebie season anyway because he has zero experience and would be learning on the job.

Marko

Unlike Solskjaer or Zidane or Mourinho eh? God you make such wonderfully well thought out points. Nobody would guess you’re a dub

Charlie George

Harry Kane and Ashley Cole are clear examples of young players that could have been discarded early on in their careers.

We have to be patient. There is something this boy has – that i think separates him from the rest.

Ray Parlour was a late developer too.

Wish we would follow Fergies formula.

6 Brits / 5 Overseas….
Thats the right ratio…

Marko

Solskjaer has managed Molde. Zidane managed the Real Madrid Castilla team for two seasons before taking on the Madrid job and I’m not sure what your point is with regards to Mourinho. He had experience at Benfica and Unioai de Leiria before the Porto job. Was two seasons at Porto before the Chelsea job. Arteta would have had zero managerial experience and just two seasons as an assistant coach before possibly being Arsenal manager. Not the same thing

Un na naai

PedroJanuary 22, 2019 14:51:34
Can’t work out if Emery is picking a new boss, or a partner if he brings in Monchi?

Pedro
Maybe we should wait til he can pick a team to beat West Ham or Brighton first

Marc

I don’t know Pedro 200 inches of rain a year would be a major pull!

Dream10

Pedro

Roma’s transfer business under Monchi has been shaky. The worry I have about Emery having a say is the he’ll stick around even we don’t improve, thanks to having Sanllehi and a possible incoming technical director being on his side.

gambon

Whether its Monchi, or someone else, theres no doubt we need an absolute genius to steer us through the next few years. Realistically, how many long term players do we have at the club right now? Leno Bellerin Holding Mavropanos Torreira Guendouzi Iwobi Thats it really. Bearing in mind most teams have a 25 man squad, we need to find 18 more players in the coming years, including some absolute stars if we are going to win anything. Not to mention a few real talents that are at the stage where they are too good for U23 football, but not… Read more »

Silverhawk

The Arsenal world has forgotten about Emile-Smith.

what is he up to nowadays?

Un na naai

Marko Hahaha. And I’ve managed the dog and duck twos and threes for over a decade Doesn’t mean I can take over clubs like Manchester United or Real Madrid. So managing molde for two seasons qualifies you for the United job, which is a much bigger and prestigious job than ours but learning under pep for two seasons and being lauded as an ready made top manager by the best manager in the world isn’t enough? I think I’d go with pep’s views over yours. You have literally no idea how good Arteta could be for us so how can… Read more »

Un na naai

You’re going to bin me because I point out your bias from time to time? How very Tony Attwood of you. Grow up it’s the internet?

Marko

You’ve been a bitchy little girl on these pages for the last couple of years. Maybe Pedro has tired of your insufferable need for constant negative attention.

Marko

So managing molde for two seasons qualifies you for the United job, which is a much bigger and prestigious job than ours but learning under pep for two seasons and being lauded as an ready made top manager by the best manager in the world isn’t enough? I would say not having managed a club before and just having two years experience as an assistant doesn’t qualify you for the Arsenal job no. Niceties between friends doesn’t beat actually managing a football club or coaching a squad all by yourself. Then you make comments about Solskjaer having a better team… Read more »

Un na naai

I would say not having managed a club before and just having two years experience as an assistant doesn’t qualify you for the Arsenal job no. I would say that his ideas and philosohy are very bit as important as his two years of experience at a shitty Scandinavian club, more so even. I’d say watching how the best manager operates while winning titles and managing world class players is also more important then spending two years managing nobodies at a shitty Scandinavian club And you did say that United are better than us because of their squad regardless of… Read more »

Receding Hairline

I would say that his ideas and philosohy are very bit as important as his two years of experience at a shitty Scandinavian club, more so even.

What are his ideas?? What’s his philosophy?

Danny

Emile-Smith is/was injured.

Un na naai

Marko I’m not banning you and I’m not saying I would. I believe totally in freedom of speech no matter how much I disagree with it. I’m just pointing out that you’re constantly looking for some niggly girly little spat on here. You never relate well with anyone, ever unless it’s to commend someone for a like minded bitchy comment. Every single day you’re on here butting into other people’s debates and looking to vent your anger and frustration on anyone who disagrees with you. Maybe take it down a notch unless you really do revel in the negativity, which… Read more »

Marko

I would say that his ideas and philosohy are very bit as important as his two years of experience at a shitty Scandinavian club, more so even. Which are? Can you name me one idea? Any example of his philosophy? Was a RM then a CM and then turned into a pretty ineffective DM which would all point to what? I’d say watching how the best manager operates while winning titles and managing world class players is also more important then spending two years managing nobodies at a shitty Scandinavian club Brian Kidd has got the same experience in that… Read more »

Marko

Marko, I’d ban you for being boring.

As good a reason as any I suppose

Guns of Brixton

Arsenal Makeover.

Hmmm … I’d watch it.

Un na naai

What are his ideas what is his philosophy?

Receding

Do you have to know what a coaches ideas are for AFC to hire him? Don’t think they received the memo.

In all seriousness I’ve read about him having a similar attacking philosophy to pep. Possession based. And that his ideas impressed the arsenal board more than emery’s but they wanted experienced hands (basically bottled it) and that pep is highly impressed with him as a student of the game and with his own visions and concepts

Un na naai

During the interview he described how his team would be built to entertain. “My philosophy will be clear,” he said. “I want the football to be expressive, entertaining. I cannot have a concept of football where everything is based on the opposition. We have to dictate the game, we have to be the ones taking the initiative, and we have to entertain the people coming to watch us. I’m 100 per cent convinced of those things, and I think I could do it.” Arteta added: “You can have an idea of a system, but you need to be able to… Read more »

Marko

Do you have to know what a coaches ideas are for AFC to hire him? Don’t think they received the memo. If that’s your only argument for hiring a rookie then yes you do otherwise you have nothing and you’re projecting onto the individual. In all seriousness I’ve read about him having a similar attacking philosophy to pep. Possession based. And that his ideas impressed the arsenal board more than emery’s Yeah right. So whereas with Arteta it would have been a case of take me at my word while with Emery there’s actual tape and evidence of a style/philosophy.… Read more »

Un na naai

Don’t forest

Arteta came through La Masia where he will undoubtedly have the Barca DNA imprinted on him
Then Wenger ball and like it or lump it there is a lot to learn from a legend like Wenger then to Pep himself at man city

He will have also picked up mid table pragmatism at Everton under moyes

Un na naai

Don’t forget

Receding Hairline

Didn’t know the job interview was conducted in full glare of the public

I look forward to seeing what career step Arteta takes next and wish him the very best.

Receding Hairline

He will have also picked up mid table pragmatism at Everton under moyes

You are overselling it a it now

Cesc Appeal

Hold on, Pedro, are you on board with Monchi?

Because you were wanking all over him in years gone by.

Un na naai

Marlo

So Solskjaer and Zidane and pep weren’t rookies?
They were managing at afc Wimbledon levels before being given jobs bigger than ours. Hardly proven quality or seasoned professionals

They were rookies. Don’t tell me that two seasons at molde or the Spanish 2nd division is preparation for the big time any more than the tutelage attest has been privy to.

Un na naai

Arteta has been privy to

Un na naai

Yeah right. So whereas with Arteta it would have been a case of take me at my word while with Emery there’s actual tape and evidence of a style/philosophy. My god what a mistake we made Marko No. Have you ever had a job interview? He’d obviously have to talk them through his ideas and game plan. If everybody played it safe then untied would have hired the next middle of the road candidate but they’ve taken a chance on a rookie and it’s so far been a massive pay off Worth a shot. What did we have to lose?… Read more »

Un na naai

Pedro

I’d love Hamez but it’s not going to happen if we bring in Suarez. Not with Ramsey Özil and Mkhitaryan waiting in the wings. Surely?

gambon

Have to say, I still really do not understand the Suarez signing.

It really just looks like a signing for signings sake.

Marko

Think the initial point that if this were a free season for the new manager, you’d take a risk on someone who could do something special. So you’d be more inclined to not look at sacking or undermining the manager if he was less experienced is that it? Because either way it’s a free season the only difference I can see is you’re willing to suffer through someone you like over someone you don’t. There’s nothing to suggest that Arteta for example would have us in a different/better position. Nothing. And the argument of yeah but after that he may… Read more »

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Cesc Appeal
January 22, 2019 15:49:15
Hold on, Pedro, are you on board with Monchi? Because you were wanking all over him in years gone by.
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Pedro,
It doesn’t matter how attractive London is, if you keep doing that they ain’t going to come.

Marko

Arteta came through La Masia where he will undoubtedly have the Barca DNA imprinted on him
Then Wenger ball and like it or lump it there is a lot to learn from a legend like Wenger then to Pep himself at man city He will have also picked up mid table pragmatism at Everton under moyes

So Henry as manager then…or Vieira…or how about Clarence Seedorf. Amazing player played for some of the all time great managers and has experience managing.

Cesc Appeal

Pedro I don’t think that is a concern. I don’t mind a bit of closeness with Sanllehi, Monchi and Emery. Trying to drive the same vision. I’m gutted we’ve lost Mislintat but we can’t have conflict over transfer decisions every time his ideas aren’t accepted. It could obviously be bad if they are all getting it wrong but I rather doubt that. This isn’t Wenger having unitary command while being stuck in 1999 and being afraid to buy or sell. These are people not afraid of moving and shaking in the transfer market. Monchi has worked with some very tight… Read more »

Marko

They were rookies. Don’t tell me that two seasons at molde or the Spanish 2nd division is preparation for the big time any more than the tutelage attest has been privy to.

Yes it absolutely is. Actually managing a football club like Molde and managing a team in the second division in Spain is more beneficial than being one of many assistants that Pep has. He’s actually got more than two years experience at Molde too

Un na naai

Marko

Yes. Id take vieira as I’ve been more impressed with him that Henry.
What’s wrong with that? He could be our pep/Zidane. As could arteta.
You never know. Maybe emery might get us into the top 4 but you can’t seriously be backing his because you think he’s an inspired choice, it’s because he’s the antithesis to wenger.

Maybe it’s a bit like when you break up and you go for the polar opposite to the ex. Some sort of ptsd

Marko

Worth a shot. What did we have to lose?
We were already the 6th best according to you

We could have slipped further. What did we have to lose… worst case scenario for this season is still Europa League football with Arteta because he’s so unknown it could have been worse

TheBoyCornelius

gambon January 22, 2019 15:56:49
Have to say, I still really do not understand the Suarez sign

My take on it is that he can potentially play in 3 positions. In the wide forward positions, i think hes a smarter player than Iwobi. In the position Ramsey played against Chelski. Or in a midfield 3 nest to Xhaka & Torreira

Whether he has the ability to cut it in the premier league for us is another thing – but that is why the initial loan i suppose?

Un na naai

Marko I don’t agree. I don’t think sending arteta to a nobody team for a couple of years experience would guarantee any more benefit than just taking the arsenal hot seat. It’s his ideas and philosophy and kinetic energy that would catch my eye. But let me flip one of your go to arguments then marko. Why were there not other clubs knocking down the door for Solskjaer? He’d done well at molde. So was he hired on the basis of his experience or his ideas? If it were his experience and that is worthy of taking over Manchester u-fucking-nited… Read more »

Marko

Maybe emery might get us into the top 4 but you can’t seriously be backing his because you think he’s an inspired choice, it’s because he’s the antithesis to wenger. I’m not backing anyone I’m backing common sense over ridiculous expectations. I don’t care who actually manages the club as long as there’s signs of improvement and an exciting future. To get these things the new manager will need time and investment not one window and 6 months. I don’t care who manages us but for Arteta I don’t want him anywhere near the club. Such a basic player who… Read more »

Un na naai

Marko We could have slipped further. What did we have to lose… worst case scenario for this season is still Europa League football with Arteta because he’s so unknown it could have been worse But marko. We have £120m to spend this summer. You say non stop that it’s olayers not tactics that win you games. Well if arteta was hired and given top talent like vandijk and Salah and Mane to work with then surely we wouldn’t slip? There’s a big jump between us and the evertons and wolves of the league currently in terms of real financial clout,… Read more »

Un na naai

Such a basic player who should have never played for us and who for some reason is thought of so highly as to be our manager? Fuck that.

Marko

Don’t remember Fergie, Wenger or Jose setting the world alight as players. Didn’t hold them back. 3 greatest prem managers of all time
Or emery for that matter

Leedsgunner

Pleased to see the club trying to hire Mochi. I’ve been following him for a while, his track record is comparable to Sven’s plus he has a proven track record with Emery.

Back when Emery was hired I said Monchi should be part of the set up. You can all thank me later when he becomes our new Technical Director.

Leedsgunner

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