Are you ok?
Come on, wipe away those tears. We’re gonna be A-0k. Put that Bergkamp poster back up on the wall, put on your retro bruised banana shirt that doesn’t fit back on, then we’ll crack into some tasty Arsenal morsels.
But before we crack on, pet peeve of mine… social media bios that say things like ‘Beans on toast enthusiast’ or ‘Purveyor of cream cheese’… fuck off. Don’t be a wanker. Imagine introducing yourself at a party like that? You’d be asked to leave. Maybe have your ‘craft beers with an interesting story behind them’ deservedly taken on the way out for being so offensively twee.
Anyway, the club is apparently going after Ismaïla Sarr in the summer. ExMonaco defender Willy Sagnol had this to say on the winger.
“The star of this team is Ismaïla Sarr, there’s nobody else. It is he who carries it offensively. He is consistent in his performances, his efforts. He is the only one since the beginning of the season who brings real satisfaction.”
The rumour on the street is that we’re going to offer them Emi Martinez and £16m in the summer. This really would be the sort of signing we should be making. I’ve sadly had enough downtime this season to watch Rennes a couple of times. The player has Kanu like tight control (when it’s good, obviously), his telescopic legs allow him to fend off pressure, and he can explode into space.
You never know what you’re getting when you buy players so young from Ligue One, but it’d be harsh to sniff at a 20-year-old left sided winger who has scored 9 goals and dropped 6 assists in 25 games. That’s worth a punt. We’re getting in there before a Monaco do… and inevitably flog him for £600m in one season. This is Sven’s chance to deliver us a Dembele.
Foot Mercato report that we’re interested in signing Yannick Carrasco from Chinese power players, Dalian Yifang. It’s pretty obvious to me that it’d be insanity to give him £200k a week, but you know, he might hate where he lives so much he’s prepared to take a pay packet that’s more reasonable.
It’s clear whatever happens, it’ll have to be a loan move. Emery delivered some much-needed brutality to fans dreaming of a £100m January.
“We cannot make payments to sign players. We can only loan players. But we can only sign players on loan. I know the club is working to find players who can help us, with this condition.”
That makes our January window feel ever so familiar. The silver lining here is that if it were Wenger in today’s prezzer, he’d be telling us that he’s on the lookout for a super, super talent before pulling the trigger on a 38-year-old goat farmer from the Saudi league. At least Emery has set the expectation dial at miserable. Anything from here is going to be fucking immense.
I also want to lay to rest the notion that Arsenal aren’t appealing because we don’t have £4b to throw at the squad. Spurs has one of the best coaches on the planet, he spent nothing last summer and his net spend is in the minus figures. Or plus figures. What’s the symbol when you’re in profit?
Anyway, when the Arsenal job rolls around, only the mega coaches would sniff. If that’s Allegri, who hardly operates on mega money now (or gets paid well), that’s most likely because he never wanted to leave a club that just signed Ronaldo. Not other major coach was sniffing at a £200m wage bill and the chance to spend £80m last summer. As was pointed out in the comments yesterday. Poch spend net zero his first two season and Klopp spent net £35m in his first two season. Emery has dropped double in his first summer. Hardly poverty.
Arsenal is a hugely attractive role for 90% of coaches out there. Don’t kid yourself otherwise. Sven and Raul wouldn’t be at the club if it weren’t appealing. We just need to make our situation work. That’s getting back to wheeling and dealing. Very much like how Wenger operated when he first joined. Find the gems. The broken pros that need life. Hope that some kids make it big.
COMMUNITY POST: This was from Gambon in the comments. Him tackling the ‘it’s Stan’ issue head on.
Good argument from @TheMightyGambon as to why Stan really isn’t to blame for the mess we’re in (outside lack of leadership presence).
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I think judging by our past dalliances in the January window, it’s probably best we keep our moves to loans, versus purchasing in anxiety mode.
Top 4 would be an incredible achievement from where we are, but it seems unlikely. Let’s spend our time trying to shift players other teams want. Mikhi apparently has admirers in Milan, if that’s true, let him go for whatever they’ll give us. Free up that £170k a week and make it happen.
As someone pointed out yesterday, the likelihood is we’ll need to dramatically reduce our wage bill, and one of our most saleable assets is Lacazette. Get that salary off our books, regardless of how much I love him. We cannot operate with someone that expensive occupying the bench. I’d miss the goals, but surely he’s a £65m striker if Chelsea paid £70m for Morata? We could buy 2 and bit Torreira’s for that.
If Emery can’t motivate Ozil to care, the club has to come to a deal this summer and remove him. It’s going to be hard to find anyone to foot that bill, that said, we did find an Italian club willing to pay Ramsey £280k a week GROSS. Unreal figures, so it does show you, anything is possible if you force someone’s hands.
From there, it’s taking punts on players with high ceilings/hoping some of the kids coming through can up their levels and give us some magic.
See, anything is possible when you write it down in a blog. I think we solved Arsenal? Have a great day! x
P.S Don’t be selfish, listen to the fucking podcast.
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i do think emery is waiting on Mavropanos form in the next few weeks to see if he does need another defender
I really want Dinos to do well and become that potential superstar like gouendouzi
I have faith in him but I did read that if he was still injured then we would of signed a defender on loan for sure
I heard mavropanos is going to be kos replacement
You sell Lacazette for £60 Million bring in a winger and then bring in a young £10-20 Million ST with potential.
You probably end up with a net cost of £20 Million or something out of your budget and have a far more balanced looking attack.
This isn’t a critique of Lacazette, I think people are taking it the wrong way.
Rule number 7- existence is futile
Rule number 8- always try to emulate the style of whoever is currently successful
Leeds Its going to take more than £70m to get this team right. I agree, it would be a reluctant sale but one that that may have to happen. Look at it this way. Say we sell our deadwood. Maybe the following: Ospina Martinez Koscielny Chambers Monreal Elneny Maitland-Niles And we get £50m for them, then we spend £120m on the defence and midfield. Well, we still need an AM or 2 x AMs. Who do we sell? I like Laca, but its like I said yesterday. We would be like a homeless man who is dying of malnutrition while… Read more »
Bestseller right there marko
To say our current position is ” a catastrophic one” would be an understatement
Gambon’s detailed comments highlight the total incompetence of Wenger/Gazidis/ The board and, ultimately, our owner, in approving so many mindblowingly dumb actions.
Tot it all up and it comes to approximately £300m……….. That’s right, £300m!!
This has to go down as the games biggest financial cock-up…….. EVER!
Send them all to the gallows.
Gambon
“You think it makes sense to have a £170k striker on the bench? No other team in world football does.”
Simple solution to that….play him ….now that does make sense.
We had a very good unbeaten run with Lacazette in the side and we have not lost a football match this season in which he has started.
And yes, any decent manager would play him and Aubamayang together .
but in our present state, I doubt we would achieve more than £70m for Lacazette. That’s actually good money for someone we paid 47 million for and who’d be 28 I’m guessing by the time he’d go. 70 million alone not factoring in what your original budget is would go towards possibly two players. Heck 70 million right now would get us a top class defender. Also the whole what if Aubameyang gets injured stuff is silly. What if tomorrow (knock wood) Lacazette suffers a long term injury. That’s why worse we’d be down a huge fee and have no… Read more »
Pierre
Yet almost every team in world football plays with a single CF.
Hmmmmmm.
If we do want to get rid of Mesut Ozil
who will take him?
I am sure a Chinese club could sign him this window
but in summer
Inter Milan
Fenerbache
I am sure they will not want to pay more then £30m for him with his wages sky high
I know he loves fenerbache so maybe he could lower his wage demands and his family are fenerbache supporters
lets just hope fenerbache make a bid to sign him even for £20m just get rid of that wage bill
Cesc “You sell Lacazette for £60 Million bring in a winger and then bring in a young £10-20 Million ST with potential.” In theory that works except that at present, 1. Arsenal has woefully be inadequate in selling our players for over market value. 2. This problem is then compounded by the fact that when we want to buy, we are working in a volatile hyper-inflationary market. Because our transfer dealings have been so antiquated under Wenger for so we have been stung by both sides of transfer equation. Torreira, Leno and Guendozi is a promising start, but only a… Read more »
*way worse
*been inadequate
A holding company can have several subsidary’s.
Just like two sets of books one for the Uk .
And one for the States.???????.
WHERE’S the MONEY..
Leeds
“1. Arsenal has woefully be inadequate in selling our players for over market value.”
Thats due to contract mismanagement, and having shit players.
Lacazette would be a 27, just turning 28 striker. Good reputation, in a world where top CFs are hard to find. He would also have a 3 year contract.
Hold on Charlie George, you should only make your statement at 2.46 after 3 seasons of Unai Emery.
gambon @1452
I don’t disagree with you but it p*sses me off we are back to selling our biggest stars because Wenger lacked the cajones to make the big decisions whilst he was here. He really screwed us over.
Leeds You have to make difficult decisions now precisely because of where Wenger left us, Gazidis as well. I would think we’ve got a £70-80 Million budget this summer. That won’t even solve the defence if we’re looking at a young RB, a great CB and a LB. Not unless Mislintat pulls some absolute wonders out. You then need to solve the CAM problem and you need to finally buy a winger which might involve buying a couple of midfielders and a winger. If the club can do that by selling Elneny, Chambers etc then fine. But I don’t think… Read more »
I would want to see Sven and Raul sell well our deadwood before giving them someone like Lacazette.
It’s not a game Leeds and it’s easier to sell a good one than it is to sell deadwood. I agree with you though Lacazette is way down the list of players I’d contemplate selling. In fact prior to last summer I said the only one’s who should survive a massive squad culling was him and Auba. Everyone else at the end of last season I would happily have binned
Ozil is here to stay.
Ozil is still s good player, albeit sporadically.
Our ridiculous over rated coach -should stop forgetting his insane fixation with Banega-and endeavour to get the best out of him.
AFTER ALL -THAT IS HIS BLOODY JOB!
He would also have a 3 year contract
This is an excellent point too. No point in procrastinating on the decision and watch his value go down.
I’ll say again, I would much rather keep Lacazette.
Hes one of the best “off the bench” options in world football.
That said, I want to see Auba surrounded by world class wide players in the Mane/Salah or Sane/Sterling mould.
I dont want Auba surrounded by Iwobi and Mykhitaryan, with a great striker on the bench.
We talk about what Emery is going to do in terms of transfers and loans, but in our new set up his job as head coach should be to get the best out of what he has at his disposal. That is why he has half a season to show that he can make some big strides in improving our defensive capabilities.
The Holding, Wellbeck and Mustafi injuries were unforeseen and have been tough on him.
No one wants him sold but he may have to be. It’s not too dissimilar to when we bought yet another CAM in Ozil when we needed a striker. Now we have two strikers when we need a winger and a CAM and a new back line.
I don’t see how we can even get 60 or 70m out of Lacazette. Don’t get me wrong, I like him and he does add to the team a lot. But I don’t see us getting that much. Probably 50m. Just think that he is in that bracket of close to elite but not quite, and big teams would want elite CF while the other teams would not be able to afford him. Someone could, but not at 60-70m imo.
I don’t feel sad or disappointed about our financial and transfer situation, I feel frankly disgusted I’m disgusted with all of those who gladly enabled our club to be run down so badly. That includes, wenger, gazidis, kroenke, the BOD and all those AKB who glad enabled this for years For how many years have people with critical faculties been saying that our club was a total fucking mess? And it was always brushed off as the words of ungrateful glory hunters and plastic fans. Well to each and every one of the people who fall into the categories I’ve… Read more »
Charlie George you are a top class troll
Emery is ‘ridiculously overrated’ and ozil is not?
Good one m8
Raptora
I don’t know.
I really don’t think Sanllehi is a pushover.
If we sold Lacazette it is not a question of quality it is a question of raising money, that will directly impact what you’re asking for and your negotiations.
As opposed to say Ozil who you just want rid of and so the fee is not that important.
China1 Emery is ‘ridiculously overrated’ and ozil is not? Ozil has shy of 100 caps for his country Ozil has won the world cup Ozil has played for Real Madrid Ozil is a world class footballer. Emery come 2nd in one horse race in France Emery has lived such a cocconed existence in his life- he does not speak English ( ozil does) I mean – how many European coaches out there do not speak English? Have they no interest in the Prem League. HE Is an appointment No fan wanted The ONLY person who did want him ( the… Read more »
I’ve seen somewhere a rumour of Mitrovic for 50 million. If so 70 million for Lacazette isn’t beyond the realms of possibility. Especially considering the age of Cavani and Lewandowski these days.
You get people saying Wilson can feasibly move for £40-50 Million.
Lacazette could get you £60-70 Million.
CA
I read this morning that they want £70m for Wilson
Crazy
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Crime in multi-storey car parks. That is wrong on so many different levels.
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I was very naive sexually. My first boyfriend asked me to do missionary and I buggered off to Africa for six months.
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I’ve decided to stop masturbating, since then I’ve not really felt myself.
My wife told me: ‘Sex is better on holiday.’ That wasn’t a nice postcard to receive.
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Brilliant
Had me chuckling
If we sell Lacazette, and that is a big if, it doesn’t matter what the price we sell him for is, if the owner doesn’t have to plough the sale proceeds into first team. It would be a proverbial in the extreme if we sold Lacazette for let’s say for £120m and Stan just decided to pocket the entire motherlode into one of his holding companies and run. Think if would be impossible for him to do? Think again. He owns this club outright. He can do whatever the heck he pleases and there isn’t one darn thing we can… Read more »
Good man jwl
if the owner doesn’t have to plough the sale proceeds into first team.
Don’t be silly Leeds. Now it’s because he’ll pocket the fee for Lacazette. Come on man
If we sold Lacazette for £70 Million and we saw no investment in the team from that money the fan base would go nuts. I think as Gambon has illustrated quite well it is obvious to anyone that short term financial thinking and primacy in cash is daft when the real gains in profitability are to be made in smart investments in players. That one act of pocketing the whole Lacazette fee would basically finish Kroenke. Why would he do it when you could take that £70 Million and spend £40-50 Million of it on some winger who will be… Read more »
Is it me or does Denis Suarez look sad and miserable in almost every picture I see of him lately?
If somehow we get him, I think we will see a bird released from its cage.
Would love to see a great impact in the team…. that is, IF we get him
Told you Gazidis was just a glorified administrator. Told you being a commissioner in the MLS did not merit giving him such a huge CEO job. But oh no, these are the times of managers capable of managing everything and anything.
Also, he gave himself a bonus, the slaphead cuntwaffle.
I really don’t think Kroenke is that dumb. The dumbest thing he ever did was to sit in the pro-Wenger camp.
And it’s not like Wenger was saving him money which is the weird thing
RH
I think that is what did it for him in the end.
He realised how badly things were being run in contrast to the teams around us. I think particularly Spurs and Liverpool made him think.
How much have we spent and how much has our squad valued improved relative to what others have done?
Why is our wage bill so much higher than Spurs and only marginally behind Liverpool’s? Yet we are nowhere near these teams.
Leeds
So the answer is never to sell a player again?
I do like that Mavropanos will likely get a good run until the end of the season. Few glimpses of what he can do, very brief obviously, but I do think there is something there and it can’t be any worse than our other options.
Pair him up with Sokratis and see what happens.
‘And it’s not like Wenger was saving him money which is the weird thing’
Are you serious ? Wenger was Stan’s cash cow. Stan wouldn’t have invested money in AFC if there was no Wenger. He pulled the plug on the French only when he realized the cash cow was dead.
gambon Nope. I’m not saying that, and I think you know that. :). However I think people need to be realistic. Just because Wenger has DOES NOT mean Stan will suddenly allow transfer funds to be automatically be ploughed back into the team. I used an extreme example to illustrate a point. Stan says he wants the club run on a self sustaining basis. Will he mean that if we start selling assets for £100m+? If he decided to take a chunk of it to divert to his other business interests there really isn’t anything we can do. That is… Read more »
*Wenger has gone
Emiratestroller Thanks for your clarification on company law but, in truth, there was never any doubt on this matter expressed in my comment on your post. Nor am I aware of an occasion when Kroenke has loaded debt on one of his sport franchises. All of which is relevant to the past, but not to the future. And if we stay in his past for a moment longer, we see endless examples of double dealing, broken promises, indifference to fans, to his tenants, and perhaps above all, his admiration for the manner in which old man Glazer acquired Man United.… Read more »
Marko I just said Wenger made more poor decisions than good ones in his last few years as manager. You’re painfully stupid or choosing to omit what’s said because you’d rather argue because it tickles your pickle. We’re at point X (now) in large part to Wengers decision-making, and also to Stan’s. One of them is no longer here, so from now and moving forward the scrutiny doesn’t lie with Wenger in rectifying it. The heat however is very much on Stan to do right. From the moment Wenger left the club we’ve not dealt with Rambo, Welbz, Chambers, Elneny,… Read more »
Is it not irrelevant who owns the club – if they are going to be stuck in their failing mantra- ‘we only spend what we earn’ The people who spout and repeat this nonsense- clearly have never run a SUCCESSFUL business. As it is clearly impossible to achieve.! How does anybody do anything- if no initial investment is put in? E.g. If Arsenal do not invest players – how do they sell them? ( and make profits) When u hear Vinai/Raul spout this nonsense. You know we are doomed for years of mediocrity. It’s their twisted and thinking- why we… Read more »
Stan must go. Its a shame that he sees the club as another business asset. The idiot should know that spending money in this case can make you more money. Investing in the team, can lead to trophies which leads to more $$ Likely, his profitable Arsenal would be used as collateral to secure future loans etc. He likes this asset for this reason. He can care less about the club, fans, history, competitiveness Wenger was let go, as the profit margin was shrinking. When teams have owners that actually love the club and are willing to make the team… Read more »
“What I would like to hear from you is a sensible financial reason why Kroenke paid £28,000 a share to Usmanov, particularly when he was not cash-rich, and had to borrow £500m at a high interest rate. ” None of us knows what Kroenke is thing. But all investors buy shares in the hoppe of making money. This can be achieved in various ways. Such as: – a) Milk the company’s accounts by paying himself large “bonuses” or fees b) Sell the AFC shares to a third party for a profit c) Use the financial strength of the AFC to… Read more »
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Charlie George
*eyes of a typical football supporter
From the moment Wenger left the club we’ve not dealt with Rambo, Welbz, Chambers, Elneny, Jenks. I’m sorry but again just because he just left the blame doesn’t get passed on. These are issues that happened under him and that should have been dealt with by him. He signed Elneny in the first place he refused to sell Chambers to Palace and he allowed all these players to run their contracts down. Oh and he’s the one who gave Jenkinson a fat contract for what 5/6 years. We’ve sat on contracts again, lost money again, diminished values again, and haven’t… Read more »
He does not care about football and trying to understand Kroenke through the yes of a typical football supporter or judging his actions as a supporter is utterly pointless.
Preach!!!
And correct me if i am wrong hasn’t he only taken 3m out from the club??
Sf
Off course kroenke knows that
He is an American billionaire !
Vinai / Raul are spreadsheet accountants- who have never put their own money into anything.
They have not got the balls to ask Stan K.
‘If we invest in a Top manager and buy some exciting talents- we will get the rewards back 4fold.”
They are the ones PUMPING the Gazidas and Wenger line of self sufficient shite.
Stan K has not got where he has today- by luck.
We need executives- who have balls.!
Not yes men. Who employ yes men coaches..
‘And correct me if i am wrong hasn’t he only taken 3m out from the club??’
That’s not the point though. The point is he hasn’t spent a single penny from his own pocket.
Charlie George if we’re gonna talk of players as being amazing because of the team they played for and trophies they’ve won, then Darren fletcher and John O’Shea have been vastly more successful than Mesut Ozil and are this presumably better?
Oh and giroud just won a World Cup without being able to hit a barn door this summer
Nice argument dumbass
Stan hasn’t needed to invest his own money for us to be competitive.
We have voluntarily burned through a couple of hundred million in a combination of poor transfers, terrible contracts and poor selling/contract failings
If we had instead sold and invested smarter with the money we had we would have been vastly superior to what we are currently
So personally I don’t care if kroenke doesn’t want to spend his own money. I do care that the money we have had has been put on a bonfire.
Fair point China
My point is Ozil Is more important to Arsenal than Emery
Emery wants Ozil and Rambo out the door just to get in Banega !
That’s is mind boggling…
‘do care that the money we have had has been put on a bonfire.’
Yes, so what does the owner do given the precarious condition we are in – absolutely nothing. A truly caring owner would have helped us see through the financially difficult times we are in by putting his own money on the table.
If u were kroenke would u give this mob more money to waste?
I would nt.
I would sack every Gazidas appointment.
Promote Freddie and Per as joint managers until end of the season
And headhunt – the best British footballing operators out there.
Then we can move forward.
TR7 Totally… Stan has many play things… this one isnt that important to him except for his credit score and loan ability If he were to sell the team there would be no shortage of folks who are 1. Football fans wanting to buy 2. Arsenal fan wanting to buy The fact is that to be top in England and the world will take investment by ownership… plain fact. No other way So its really up to him, now the buck stops with him. He is in the firing line for everything now that is the sole owner so fuck… Read more »
That’s not the point though. The point is he hasn’t spent a single penny from his own pocket.
Why should he?? Why should he bring his own money for the purchase of players we later struggle to sell??
You wanted an owner who does not meddle and he was happy to oblige, now you have pissed away all your money on unsalable assets you want to move on to Kroenke’s
A truly caring owner would have helped us see through the financially difficult times we are in by putting his own money on the table.
You are describing a father not owner of a football club
Many clubs have got by without crying to “daddy” for money
What’s even going on over at AC Milan?
They dropped €200m banking on making the CL , that didn’t go to plan
Chinese owner flunks on repaying the American bloke, so matey changes the locks on the door and have AC Milan singer over to himself
Recruits that lizard Gazidis into the hot seat; while UEFA withholds their prize money due to their extravagant spending
The end up having to do a refund on Bonnuci, on to then spend €40m on some Brazilian
Now they’re looking at moving on Higuain to then bring in Mkhitaryan?
Lol wut
Not a popular opinion, maybe for a reason, but I think that Mustafi is the best CB in our team. I don’t see much between him and say Otamendi achieving 15 clean sheets out of 33 starts with 5 MotM performances. Mustafi could be that player. We just need to defend better as a team and get some solid wingers that would add more pressure on opponent’s full backs and limit their attacking display. Interested to see if it would work not the Greek pair of Dinos Mavropanos and Sokratis, but the one of Mustafi and Dinos. There is potential… Read more »
RH
‘You wanted an owner who does not meddle and he was happy to oblige’
I hope you do know how Kroenke became the owner of AFC. You make it sound like there was a referendum in which Arsneal fans had to choose between an officious owner and an indifferent owner.
RH Why should we have to Kroneke if he in fact, cared about the success of his team in sporting terms which can lead to more $ if that is what he wants? Big clubs do not need fans to cry to the owner. Madrids, Barca etc. The owners know what being competitive means and don’t need fans telling them. He is clueless and Arsenal is his toy DO you think he can name any first team players bar Ozil maybe? Again, we do not need him to subsise us all the time, but when we need investment to stay… Read more »
‘You are describing a father not owner of a football club’
What the hell are you talking about ? Investing money in your own enterprise to grow it is akin to being a daddy ? Lol, it happens in most businesses.
Big clubs do not need fans to cry to the owner.
Madrids, Barca etc. The owners know what being competitive means and don’t need fans telling them.
Can i have the names of the sole owners of Real Madrid , Bayern Munich, Barcelona.
Kroenke has a hand in our demise because:
1. He hired the worse possible CEO
2. He did not act to remove both the incompetent CEO and the past it Manager
I will never blame him for not writing a 300m pound cheque to enable us “compete”
What the hell are you talking about ? Investing money in your own enterprise to grow it is akin to being a daddy ? Lol, it happens in most businesses. Not when your own enterprise can afford tow 50m pound strikers, a 35m pound defender that cant defend, a 350k a week play maker that is always sick or not up to it, a 35m pound midfielder not suited to the league, sit back and watch a 60m pound asset run down his contract and describe the situation as ideal…………..need i go on?? In this case we are asking for… Read more »
Any supporter who has been round for more than 10 minutes and not only knows the club but has some understanding of what the club is about would never have wanted to move away from the shared ownership we had before. The most tragic part of what happened it that it was David Dein who set everything in motion because he felt there was no way we could afford the new stadium.
Well said hairline
‘a real owner would probably jail all involved not give them more money’
“What the hell are you talking about ? Investing money in your own enterprise to grow it is akin to being a daddy ? Lol, it happens in most businesses.”
Er the only time it happens in businesses is when the business cannot borrow money in it’s own right i.e. making losses, poor balance sheet lack of assets etc.
The truth can in some cases be the exact opposite in which someone who starts a business that becomes successful either then sells it on or goes PLC.
RH I do blame him for your reasons as well. Good points there. I would like to see him write that 50M check this window, so we can secure the Attacker and defender we need to try and make top 4 and EL trophy. When Raul tells him we just got more money because his investment, helped us to get top 4, I think he might actually feel happy about that. The fact is that, he has overseen a shit show- and being the majority shareholder and now sole shareholder, the blame needs to go to him. Self sustaining is… Read more »
You won’t blame Emery for our defeats for he has sub-standard players at his disposal
You won’t blame Stan either for not helping Emery buy better players so that he can win.
Ok, so how do you see us get out of this mess genius ? City, Pool and Spurs are pulling away while United and Chelsea will always be there or thereabout due to their wealth . What’s the way out ? Well, let’s just keep bashing Wenger ,that will sort everything out.
What’s the way out ?
Basically the club cannot make a misstep in the next 2 years in the transfer market and squad management to have a chance at accomplishing anything of note in the next 5.
If Stan or Josh kroenke ever see gambos analysis from the other day- I think they would sell up!
Incompetence on an industrial scale!
‘Er the only time it happens in businesses is when the business cannot borrow money in it’s own right i.e. making losses, poor balance sheet lack of assets etc.’
Not remotely true Marc, businesses often invest the profit made back in to business or majority shareholder dilute their own capital and invest the money in their business. Often a sign of growth based companies.It is called ploughing back money in your own business.
‘This was always going to be a tough season, if we can sneak the top 4 or win the Europa that would be a phenomenal achievement.’
I’m all for warranted criticism and debate and banter but any discussion regarding Arsenal really should be concluded with this statement above.
TR7
Of course company’s invest profits they’ve made back into the business – but we’re not talking about that. You’ve started a conversation under a premise that a business needs a cash infusion – where does it get it from. Kroenke is not going to have a share issue.
Sancho
‘Basically the club cannot make a misstep in the next 2 years in the transfer market and squad management to have a chance at accomplishing anything of note in the next 5.’
The odds are totally stacked against us. Nowadays barely any market is unexplored. Even normal football fans know about bright talents in most European Leagues. Imagine how much knowledge professional clubs with vast scouting networks have of players.
For the record I think most people were against giving Wilshere a new contract even if it was to maintain his market value. Although the issue with a bumper contract was the fact that his previous contract gave him a needlessly high salary in the first place. So I guess the point stands.
“City, Pool and Spurs are pulling away while United and Chelsea will always be there or thereabout due to their wealth ” Well we are stuck with Utd and City’s financial power but the other clubs? Spur’s are charging into a billion pounds worth of debt and you seem to think they’re going to be able to handle this no problem. Chelsea are now running on a self sustaining basis – they are still able to generate some funds through selling assets (players) acquired when Abramovich was chucking money into the club but this won’t last forever. You do know… Read more »
Marc
Say Stan invests 100M in to AFC. AFC can register a liability of 100M on its balance sheet balanced by asset of 100M (players). It is that simple. No need to issue shares.
‘It’s not going to happen overnight – I really wonder what you realistically expect or want’
This is exactly it.
We’ve all said on here, pro-Wenger fans aside, how bad things were getting over the last 6 years. How can you expect that to be reversed in 8 months with a £64 Million expenditure.
Building a well balanced, competitive squad that is successful on the field and valuable off of it takes years. As does adding great commercials.
We waited for too long, we stuck with an imbecile for too long, this is the price we pay. Frustration and waiting.
The odds are totally stacked against us.
Yes but I don’t want to say it can’t be done just a few months into the process. If we’re in the same purgatory 6 months, 12 months, 24 months from now then at that point I think the evidence would overwhelmingly point to the entirety of Arsenal being utterly incompetent. Not just Emery, not just Stan, not just the board or Sven and Raul, and not just Wenger in years past. Everyone.
“Say Stan invests 100M in to AFC. AFC can register a liability of 100M on its balance sheet balanced by asset of 100M (players). It is that simple. No need to issue shares.”
That’s not what he’s going to do give it up. If you think that means the end of all for Arsenal is nigh then please fuck off and stopping bringing everyone else down as well. At least try to look at where we are and appreciate that whilst it won’t be easy we can with careful planning etc get back on track.
‘It’s not going to happen overnight – I really wonder what you realistically expect or want.’
I am not expecting or wanting overnight results either. I can foresee a long barren spell for Arsenal unless we hit a jackpot with a couple of gambles. We are perilously close to a 3rd straight season without CL. The longer you are out of it, the tougher it becomes to get back in to it.
The longer you are out of it, the tougher it becomes to get back in to it.
Amen to that. Look at the fates of Milan.
Poster child for mismanagement and bad owners
Sancho
In the longer term Kroenke can’t afford for a period of extended stagnation. We had several years of this under Wenger, if the fans aren’t seeing improvements they’ll stop going to matches and then stop renewing season tickets.