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It would appear Arsenal aren’t quite as broke as we’d initially thought. The news dropping the loudest of rumbles at the moment is that we’re going in for Denis Suarez for £14m. However you feel about the player, it’s hard to disagree that he’s 1) Young (24) 2) Technically superior to Iwobi 3) Capable of hitting higher levels.
Most of his success came at Villareal in 2015-16 when he dropped his best numbers with 12 assists and 5 goals in 48 appearances. He also played under Emery in his last season at Sevilla where he racked up an impressive 5 assists, 6 goals, in 46 appearances. Also notable that he was signed by City way back when!
His numbers at Barca look, well, decidedly Iwobi-ish if I’m honest. I think he’s cut from a similar cloth. A little bit faster, but the type of player who stitches midfield and attack together with cute intricate play. I know it’s a basic, but just having someone out on the left who you can rely on to always have a good touch is where the bar is set at the moment.
He’s an upgrade. I just hope he’s not a £150k a week upgrade. Worth remembering that when he was a teenager, he was compared to players like David Silva. If he fulfils here, then we’ve unlocked a lot of potential value. (read here for an interesting scouting report).
Today we take on Blackpool in the FA Cup. I’m excited to see Saka land a heavily mooted start. I think we need to see more of these kids and they need to land pitch time. If they don’t, they might as well be out on loan. From the sounds of it, the manager is going to heavily rotate, hoping to inject some much-needed energy into the legs of players that have been drained over the past two months.
Short one today, have a great day!
“I mean let’s be honest here Juve were an obvious destination they love a good freebie and they just spent a 100 million on Ronaldo in the summer it made perfect sense” All so obvious now, yet had I said five months ago PSG, Juventus, Real Madrid, Bayern would be leading the chase for him I can just imagine the reaction from yourself, and it wouldn’t have anything like it is now. Also,funny how you keep acting as if Juve are the only club interested in him, the other less thrifty clubs being interested doesn’t quite suit the narrative does… Read more »
“Yes you’re right…the club will have limited funds to spend so nothing has changed from the last 10/12 years.”
Stupid statement because it offers no level of perspective. ManU have limited funds, Chelsea are certainly not operating on unlimited funds and City whilst spending money they don’t have will probably have to be careful with the threatened FFP sanctions.
All this whilst the Spud’s have just spunked a £1,000,000,000 on a new stadium but they won’t feel the pinch – course not.
Bamford
Coutinho was 20 years old and had already shown as much as Suarez has and more whereas Suarez is 25, how can you not spot the difference?
Barca fans say Suarez is a poor man’s Coutinho without the shot.
All so obvious now, yet had I said five months ago PSG, Juventus, Real Madrid, Bayern would be leading the chase for him I can just imagine the reaction from yourself, and it wouldn’t have anything like it is now. Also,funny how you keep acting as if Juve are the only club interested in him, the other less thrifty clubs being interested doesn’t quite suit the narrative does it? Haven’t seen Real mentioned once (some narrative that) and have only seen PSG and Juve be mentioned as making an offer. So hardly 5 clubs. He will start games and some… Read more »
A breakdown of Ramsey’s goals in his best ever season for Arsenal 2013-14
Sunderland (14th)- 2 goals
Stoke City (9th)- 1 goal
Swansea (12th)- 1 goal
Norwich (Relegated)- 2 goals
Liverpool (2nd)- 1 goal
Cardiff City (Relegated)- 2 goals
Hull (16th)- 1 goal
“Haven’t seen Real mentioned once (some narrative that) and have only seen PSG and Juve be mentioned as making an offer. So hardly 5 clubs.”
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Exclusive: Aaron Ramsey to hold talks with Bayern Munich, Inter Milan, Juventus, PSG, Real Madrid before leaving Arsenal as a free agent in the summer. #AFC have little money to spend in Jan so loans more likely with a bigger budget next window. Full story
What’s that again Marko?
Petit was what 26 when we signed him for £2.5 million. Where were Barca, Madrid, Bayern, Juve and both Milans then.
No one is saying Suarez is going to be the next Messi but we need to give the management team the benefit of the doubt until the guy’s kicked at least a few balls for us.
Chill out un I’m just winding up the natives …all.they do is whinge about the Arsenal players,not only ozil, and then accuse me of wanting the team to lose. I know you don’t like ozil, and I get why fans don’t like him , I don’t like him sometimes because he’s such a wimp , but if the criticism isn’t balanced and fair against him then I am going to come on here and let them know and stir it up a little…and to be honest ,most of the criticism is complete made up media bullshit and the fans fall… Read more »
Well if a journalist said it it must be true.
Fuck me.
Marc – You actually being serious? David Ornstein is not just some random journo.
Vic Call us all the names you want, doesn’t change the fact that we are touting a 25 year old reserve player that has put one semi-decent at best season halfway into his football career, 3 years ago no less. You’re an absolute dreamer if you think that he makes us even slightly better. As for the Iwobi comparison, they both play wide midfield and have similar styles, both struggle with end product hence the poor numbers. Suarez is technically better but he’s average himself, neither are good enough is the point so why would we add another that will… Read more »
Paulinho
“Exclusive: Aaron Ramsey to hold talks with Bayern Munich, Inter Milan, Juventus, PSG, Real Madrid before leaving Arsenal as a free agent in the summer”
This is now the talk will go
” good morning Aaron ,how are you ”
” I’m fine thanks ”
” That’s good , now fuck off Aaron there’s a good boy ,you’re shit”
End of talks.
Paulinho
Yes – I take every newspaper story and transfer rumour with a pinch of salt until it’s a done deal.
I don’t for one second think Ramsey would turn down Madrid unless the main factor in his choice is money and Madrid were offering less.
Oh year and his mate Bale is there.
Iwobi man of the match. Look at the facts…passes completed chances created. If he is shite, the rest of the team is sewage…pure liquor.
Continuing Pierre’s dialogue:
Ramsey: Thank you for telling me to fuck off and that Im shit.. I appreciate it, I now need to fun and have to practice for the winter choir concert with the boys. Happy Holidays…..
A breakdown of Ramsey’s goals in his best ever season for Arsenal 2013-14
Sunderland (14th)- 2 goals
Stoke City (9th)- 1 goal
Swansea (12th)- 1 goal
Norwich (Relegated)- 2 goals
Liverpool (2nd)- 1 goal
Cardiff City (Relegated)- 2 goals
Hull (16th)- 1 goal…….
It’s interesting to see the clubs that are apparently in for Ramsey. I can only see him being a bench warmer at those sides. Ramsey showed again the weakness in his game. Several times he got the ball to around 25-30yds out then instead of playing someone in he slips into glory mode and puts his laces through it, for it to ricochet away and put Blackpool on the front foot. When we get into threatening positions Ramsey is the last player I want to see with the ball. His selfishness wastes good possession and the runs other players have… Read more »
Suarez is just not a player that is going to do amazing things.
He may be a decent player, we may be able to sell on to a Valencia, Everton type team for a profit.
However there’s a huge difference between a 19 year old with his output and a 25 year old.
It’s a massively uninspiring signing, and the idea Arsenal can’t do any better is laughable.
If he’s coming in as a versatile squad player then it’s not so bad, but why on earth are we signing squaddies when the first team needs about 6 players.
Marc – Again, if you can’t see the difference between Ornstein and the rest of the click-bait types that saturate social media then there’s not really much more to say on that front.
Who knows, it might be money or position, or the class the of the Old Lady of Italian football that draws him towards them, but it’s not the argument. Marko said there had been no mention of them.
Gambon, if the first team needs about six players, which five would you keep in the starting line up?
Inside right
I thought Ramsey had a very good first half hour ,good distribution , disciplined positionally good ….
2nd half , he went back to type and was wasteful on the ball and generally poor all round …
Exactly gambon he’s a decent squaddie at best and we hardly need more of those.
Laughable that some of the same people that were up in arms over potentially signing a far better player in Banega are so hard on Suarez, you would swear he was 19 or 20 the way they’re going on about him.
He’s a year older than Fabregas was when we sold him to Barcelona, let that sink in.
I don’t know nothing about Suarez and as legrove punters are so unreliable i won’t be passing judgment until i take a good look at him myself.
Now certain types are actively willing to make all the excuses for the club. They are now ready to tolerate the same shit they moaned about for years.
Shameless cunts!
Paulinho
You don’t turn down Madrid without some really serious reason. Juve are a top team but they don’t get close to having Madrid on your CV.
I have no idea about Bayern being in for him but they are struggling this season so maybe, PSG are a basket case fuck knows what they are up to. The Juve stories do seem to be too numerous to be just smoke. I just don’t believe Madrid made a serious offer.
Suarez is the sort of player Everton would’ve gone in for if they failed to get Bernard in the summer.
“I don’t know nothing about Suarez and as legrove punters are so unreliable i won’t be passing judgment until i take a good look at him myself.”
You just know it’s time for some on here to take a deep breath and get a grip when Red makes the most balanced comment on here over the last couple of hours.
With all this ‘excitement’ it’ll be shame if we don’t sign Suarez hahaha.
Marc – I see what you’re saying, but Cristiano Ronaldo must have had his reasons for leaving Madrid for Juventus in the summer, and I can imagine Ramsey is looking at him playing there and fancies the idea of playing with one of the best players of all time. Ronaldo joining them has definitely raised an already prestigous profile.
Madrid are not exactly looking like a well-managed club at the moment either. It’s bit of a circus there.
Unfortunately I think this is our future under Emery
He’s a Spanish Tony Pulis.
Wants a team full of hard running robots and a good CF.
A friend of mine said when we signed Emery that he is just a trendy Sam Allardyce and I laughed it off.
Our rivals have wide players scoring 15-30 per season and were after a guy that scores 3 per season.
“Our rivals have wide players scoring 15-30 per season and were after a guy that scores 3 per season.”
But Emery is not our head of recruitment. I don’t think he has unilateral decisions on players.
Gambon
I disagree
Pullis won jack all.. played like thugs ..
Nah you can do better slagging than that…
Your just following like a sheep ….
Emery has an input to who we sign. He won’t want a Guendouzi type player then Sven and Raul give him Delph.
Cesc is heading to Monaco. Can’t Henry do us a favor and take Koscielny also?
Pierre
Ramsey may not be your favourite player, but he’s still,as it stands, a better option than Mr Ozil.
For people going nuts about our low spend this window, what do you want us to do? It’s all well and good saying ‘Bournemouth have this much’, ‘Everton have this much’ etc but we’re being told from numerous sources we don’t have any money. Talk of ambition is moot. Why do you think we’re trying to work out a loan deal for a player that will cost about £14 Million? I don’t get it. You’re talking like it’s the Wenger days and we’re watching a whole window go by having spent £4 Million on Cech. We’re out of money and… Read more »
Graham, agreed we certainly get more out of Ramsey than Ozil. But he is overrated and I’m glad he’s leaving.
Cesc, there’s no reason for us to have so little cash on hand. We have a bucket load of players who should be shipped out and even if they went for relatively mediocre sums we could easily pull in £80m for 6-7 departures. Surely we could get a couple of decent defenders for that money.
Interested to know what Ornstein means by ‘more money’. Does he mean more money than now, in which case that isn’t hard, or more money than the summer?
Judging by clips Denis Suarez is very similar to Messi.
“But Emery is not our head of recruitment. I don’t think he has unilateral decisions on players.”
Another ready made excuse. Emery definitely has a huge say or you think players are being imposed on him?
Besides, whatever the mode of recruitment is, Emery agreed to it before accepting the job.
CA We signed Arshavin for more a decade ago before the inflation and transfer fee explosion, and we were supposedly broke then with the stadium. If AW was signing a 25 year old that has done little to nothing you wouldn’t be happy. I’d rather we signed nobody in Jan and spent a decent fee on a player that will seriously improve us in the summer than sign Suarez for 14 million in Jan only to be stuck with him on the wage bill if he turns out to be average, which his history suggests is exactly what will transpire.… Read more »
InsideRight It’s all well and good saying that but we’re being told by numerous sources we have no money. By all means we should ask why that is, but it’s likely down to finishing 5th then 6th, misallocation of funds, stupidity like Ozil’s deal and a lack of players to sell. This bucket load of players, who? More to the point how are you going to sell them? We’ve bought badly and played worse for the last 2 years, Europe knows that. Our players are all on high wages as well. Who’s going to give us our money back on… Read more »
WE Then you’d have people complaining that we’ve signed no one, more practically as well I think Emery is looking at his CAM situation and thinking that Ramsey is going and is not that good on the ball either, Ozil is a pussy and Mkhitaryan is out for who knows how long. That is why the club are trying to stretch what we have to land someone who might be one part of the difference between 5th and 4th. I do think a lot of people, myself included at the start of the summer, severely underestimated just how much Wenger… Read more »
Graham
“Ramsey may not be your favourite player, but he’s still,as it stands, a better option than Mr Ozil.”
If you are talking about “as it stands” as in being the next week or 2 , then yes he is the better option , but after that Ramsey is not the better option….he has never been the better option for the last 5 years so I can’t see how he will be the better option (when both are fit) in the future …..but of course that is just my opinion.
WE We have a wage bill similar to Liverpool but the difference in players is so wide. I don’t think our situation is that of no money as in cash, its more that we are constrained by the EPL rule as regard wage increases per year. Wenger spent his transfer budget by increasing the salaries of players while the new regime is trying to correct that. Ramsey is the unfortunate casualty of the new regimes wage restructuring. The reason why Ornstein says we would have more cash in the summer is because the new sponsorship deal kicks in and also… Read more »
Suarez is surely just a economically sensible signing?
Downside is minimal at 15-20 mil, he isn’t improving us levels though.
We are so backward right now, losing Rambo, we can’t afford /attract anybody or similar quality currently. So we are going backwards.
Ozil micki sucking up cash for foreseeable, we are going to have to raid the bargain bucket such as this suarez move.
CA
We can do better than Suarez in any case, difference between 4th and 5th is a bold call considering he has done nothing to be considered any better than Miki or Ozil.
Can’t get behind this signing, just screams of cheap and easy rather than what we need.
If we can’t afford a player for over 14 million then serious questions must be asked.
Somebody asked this earlier..
The only players I would keep at present are:
(1st team): Auba, Torreria, Laca, Sokratis, Bellerin, Kolasinac, Holding (when fit).
(squad players): Leno, Guendozi, Miki, ESR, Movropanos, Iwobi. Welbeck
(development): Willock, AMN
(Saka and Nketiah dont look good enough to me)..
Sell everyone else.
We need an explosive wide player, we need to spend 40mil odd on somebody big, il take a possession based wide man (Iwobi,Suarez) on one wing if we had that balance.
I haven’t seen enough of Reiss Nelson,don’t think he’s the man for this role
WE I did say ‘part of’, I don’t think he’s a difference maker but could be a part of it along with say another loan move and someone like Mavropanos stepping up for example. The January window will tell us a lot. I think Sanllehi and Venkatesham are far too smart to be cash hoarders and they know they have to get in the UCL to make progress. I doubt they would be sitting on £60 Million for shits and giggles. Not to mention when you think Guendouzi has probably trebled in value since he’s been here and Torreira has… Read more »
Paulinho
” I can imagine Ramsey is looking at him playing there and fancies the idea of playing with one of the best players of all time. Ronaldo ”
And Ronaldo is looking at Ramsey and starts reminiscing of the days when he had a no.10 who created chance after chance for him…..I can’t quite remember his name.
Let’s be honest …the 2nd half was pretty bad ….
If VAR had been in operation our 2nd and 3rd goal would have been disallowed so Blackpool may have had something to fight for in the last 15 minutes…
CA
Let’s hope so because these links aren’t at all encouraging to hear.
I like Torreira but do you really believe that somebody would pay 50 million for him as of now?
Or 25-30 for Guen?
Lucas has played well but he’s got a way to go as his struggles of late show and Guen is very raw, albeit he looks talented tbf.
I wonder, had Mr Sokratis ever played on a dodgy surface before today?
It seems not.
Pierre
His name is Ozil, who was regularly substituted on the 70th minute by Madrid because of his lack.of stamina.
WE Maybe Guendouzi a little less, but a 19 year old playing like this at BvB, Monaco, Inter, Lyon or something? I can see it. We would all probably be saying ‘why didn’t we get to someone like that before that club did’. If Torreira was playing like this for another club again I could see anything in the £35-50 Million range. He has struggled a bit lately but I do think that is the fact he’s a new player to the EPL and the amount of work he has to do when he has Xhaka next to him. Added… Read more »
Going back to Eddie Nketiah.
He needs to sit down and watch some DVDs on how Ian Wright and TH14 finished.
He seems a nice lad but he needs to find a mean streak from somewhere.
Eye of the Tiger young man. Eye of the Tiger.
Red
And I even remember stories, when we bought Ozil, that he was being substituted at the 70th minute because he never played more than that when playing in Germany and that supposedly he was so used to that, it was done to accommodate him.
Ozil, as talented as he was, has always been a wet sponge.
If Ozil was that great, RM, would never have sold him back then.
“Another ready made excuse. Emery definitely has a huge say or you think players are being imposed on him?”
Read up on how Emery and Monchi worked.
So the new angle is ” it’s Ozil’s fault that we can’t buy any new players because of his 15:million a year wages ” …. Nearly as bad as ” we lost to Southampton because ozil dummied the ball in the final third of the pitch and they ran 3quarters of the length of the pitch and scored” Also nearly as bad as ” we drew with Brighton because of ozil even though lichsteiner headed the ball into the path of a Brighton player and ozil should have tracked him from the corner flag” Wait for the next instalment of… Read more »
Paulinho
No offence but you know dick all about football
I may disagree with Bamford and Moriko but at least they get the game. You are the poster most void of footballing knowledge on these page bar joe.
Where’s Chuba Apkom these days?
Who was the last first team striker to graduate from the Arsenal academy?
We train these players to be sold to generate income for the club. On the rare occasion we’ll get an Iwobi 🙂
Unai – No offence taken.
Because you’re probably the most clueless poster on any forum bar none.
Here is a link to support what Azed has said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.football.london/arsenal-fc/news/emery-mislintat-monchi-arsenal-news-14691579.amp
Even the most clueless poster forum??
What about the least clueless poster forum?
In all seriousness though. I’d take up netball or something. Clearly never played the game
Duifg
Er
We let Wilshere and cazorla go for free while keeping ozil and Ramsey
Too right we’ve gone backwards
Dispense more pearls of wisdom such as Overmars not being that good before joining Arsenal…..
Wilshere was bang average for last 4 years.
Huge fan of cat but he was out the game for 2 years at the age of 32. No Rambo contract is criminal
Akpom is an advert for why you should be cautious with youth players.
Imperious at youth level, too good for the level….never able to do it at a higher level.
As Arsenal fans we think young Arsenal players are much better than they are.
When compared to the universe of young talent they are nothing special.
This was frankly a “nothing game and performance” against an average lower division team. What we discovered today is just how awful Lichsteiner and Jenkinson were on the right side of defence. The idea that either of these two players could play in our first team is just frightening. Elneny is also a player who needs to be shifted out of the squad. The club has now got two established starting eleven players in Torreira and Xhaka with Guendouzi as back up. It is inconceivable that Elneny sits on the bench at Epl game or against serious opposition in Europa… Read more »
Emery confirming he wants a CB and Winger? Good news
Suarez isn’t a winger by the way
If i was managing Arsenal, i’d dump Ozil in the reserves for the remainder of his contract.
This would send a clear message and act as a deterrent to all future players that Arsenal do not tolerate greedy parasites.
Red
And if I was DoF I would sanction such a move.
And for those moaning about keeping Rambo, this is in sine way what has happened to him. We’ll never know what has actually been said, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he had been offered a reduced salary and he and his agent declined hoping we woukd cave in to his demands. As we have seen, this has spectacularly backfired for him as he no longer has a contract to sign. Greed got the better of him.
*some *would
It’s something that Juventus boss Masimo Allegri was understood to have reservations about when he was sounded out by the Gunners, while Mikel Arteta is also believed to have been concerned by the lack of say he would have had in the club’s transfer business. First off I doubt Allegri was ever an actual viable option ever and secondly and more importantly he worked and continues to work in the exact same structure that we have implemented only in the last year. Every major club has a head scout who finds the players and a chief executive or DOF who… Read more »
I hope those reports on that Brazilian full back are true. Love a good Brazilian full back and we need some south American flair. Shouldn’t be afraid to take a chance on them
Andre Santos
Marko
I remember the story. In most cases it was true when AW was off being a pundit in France during the Euros/World Cup.
But interestingly enough during AW Vatican stint, Gazidis made the unusual move to buy Welbz. Which shows that as much as he was a poor CEO, on that occasion he realised that nothing would be done because AW was not there to do his job.
I mean obviously the ones from other clubs. Andre Santos and obviously Belletti are dead to me
Random thoughts 1. I like how people try not to criticize Torreira even when he is playing badly. The guy that was supposed to fix our DM problems was responsible for 2 of Liverpool’s goals. 2. Suarez. You can’t win with some people. He hasn’t signed yet but he is shit. Then Cesc is better than him, he is a poor man’s Coutinho. Banega is better. Guess what, no two persons are ever the same. As good as Cesc was with us, he was a disaster at Barcelona. That didn’t mean that he was shit, it just meant that he… Read more »
Legendary I seem to remember something similar happened when he was off on a Brazilian beach that Gazidis was working while he was procrastinating. It’s amazing how serious he took the transfer market I swear. I’ll be honest I thought the Vatican incident was when Welbeck went down and they downplayed the injury until the transfer window closed and then announced he was out for a while.
Arsene being at Vatican during Welback’ purchase has no relevance, do you really believe that you cannot conduct a deal without being present? All of us allege that Arsene controlled everything and then this-
Marko
Here is the link about Welbz’s purchase:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11069159/Arsenal-complete-transfer-of-Danny-Welbeck-from-Manchester-United-after-agreeing-16m-deal-for-England-striker.html
Of course no mention of Gazidis and it was all on AW, even though he was a “star” coach for the Vatican football team/charity match when the deal was made.
Not surprising that it always had to be about AW.
UA has said Suarez played as a winger under him at Sevilla
At least that is a straightforward answer. Two players.
Nw9gooner This story was the exception to what always had happened. That year we had indeed already bought Sanchez but for some reason Gazidis felt that we needed another player. For what I recall, I remember AW not initially being to happy with his purchase as it has been done behind his back. While looking at the 2014 purchases I can’t believe that we had also bought Bielik. He is currently on his second loan stint, now with Charlton Athletic. Not very promising considering that he had been hyped up to be a good player at the time if I… Read more »
*too
Yea Marko
Im also a fan of that south american flair and gusto… you need that in the team or it gets too boring and mechanical. some individual creativity is paramount. Be it a defender or mid or whomever.
we had it with Sanchez but def need some brazilian style again
When Memphis Depay left United he was a broken player. At Olympic Lyonnaise he’s resurrected his career and he’s back to being an attacking threat that brought him into United’s sights in the first place. The same thing happened to Zaha. Under Moyes he did nothing but now he’s the talisman of the Crystal Palace side. Denis Suarez might be another such player. If this purchase is Sanhlleli and Mislintat driven I’m happy to trust their judgment… however I personally would feel more assured if we were signing a marquee winger like a Pepe or a Martial along with Suarez.… Read more »
All the evidence points to arsenal ‘requiring’ wenger to be present or at least fully involved for deals to happen That’s why whenever the club were asked if we were close to signing anyone, he would also openly say stuff about how the the club has a game in 3 days so we have to focus on preparing for that etc It also explains the constant loitering in the market, and why we rarely if ever made signings when he was on holiday or commentating at the World Cup Basically, whenever Wenger was ‘busy’ or ‘away’ our transfer activity was… Read more »
Nketiah is just another Welbeck. Full of sound and fury but signifying nothing in front of goal.
Good to see W.illock coming through today. Nketiah also did well but he needs to start converting his chances. Medley getting some playing time was another positive.
Personally with Chelsea around the corner I would play some of these youngsters against West Ham to give our strongest XI a proper rest.
A win against Chelsea would do wonders for morale and really reset our top four charge.
Not really fair on nketiah he is going and a bit small still he needs at least 30 games songs can develop. We have a very good bunch of kids that need game time and emery is providing that
People forget that Rail was at Barcelona when Suarez was bouncing around on loan. He would have been around the Barca set-up long enough to know the good players there.
I trust Raul Sanllehi with the Suarez deal since he had an inside knowledge of why the player hasn’t succeeded yet. He would have sat in innumerable technical sessions where the player was discussed at Barca. He knowledge is only helped by Emery prior experience with him before at Sevilla. .
He’ can give us 2-3 seasons and we can move him on for more money
*People forget that Raul was at Barca….
Henry was shit at juventus. He turned out great. Viera was not played at milan if suarez comes in he is an upgrade to what we have let’s not piss and moan. This blog makes me laugh