Upgraded ‘Project Youth’ architecture should be the future

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There’s cause for celebration and a bit of self-reflection today.

Were YOU watching the Liverpool game yesterday praying for a Manchester City win?

Was that because the MOST important thing for you at that minute was the scousers flunking their invincible attempt?

Yes it was. Just f*cking admit that your big hope in that moment was that another team would fail so they couldn’t displace the record we set 14 years ago.

Shame on you. That’s like hoping your exgirlfriend marries a guy with erectile dysfunction, loses his job, then gets BUSTED on men’s dating app Grindr by her bitchy work colleagues. Absolute shame on you.

As soon as Lovren came out in the press entertaining the possibility, you knew it was over. Let’s be totally blunt here. That record will live on forever. The Premier League is too strong top to bottom these days for any team to dominate the way Wenger did. Not to say it wasn’t strong back then, it was still an outrageous achievement. But now, we have too many good teams with too much know-how for anyone to threaten a real unbeaten run.

The game was pretty spectacular. High-intensity, end to end football in a special game that could rival any big match in Europe. I think it’s fair to say now that not only do we have the best league in the world, we’re nearly there with the best teams in the world. I am very excited to see who ends up in the Champions League final.

One thing that really stood out for me yesterday were the performances of the Liverpool fullbacks. TA-A and Robertson were unbelievable. They cover such a huge amount of ground and moving forward they’re an absolute nightmare. No real pattern to follow, good delivery into the box, and they’re both still so young. The most interesting thing about both of them is they didn’t cost £80m each. You can grow players if you give them a chance, and you pick players up from the lower leagues and they can become monsters.

That’s the bigger picture in world football at the moment. We’ve grown so accustomed to assuming English players are average, overpriced and over-ego’d (made that word up) that we quite often miss the exciting prospects sitting on our own doorstep.

How did Manchester City manage to let Sancho go to Dortmund and become a £90m player? How are Arsenal going to deal with Reiss Nelson when he comes back? What are Willock, ESR, Eddie and Medley going to do with their futures? Is it really true that Chelsea are buying in a £58m bench player from Dortmund with 3 goals to his name in 3 years, while Bayern bloody Munich are trying to snap up Odoi for £35m (who looks seriously good)?

Arsenal has a group of young and hungry technically gifted players sitting on their books (we think). Not only that, they’re mostly fast, strong and built for the league. Do we continue to chase down journeymen hacks that are unlikely to shift the needle in our direction, or do we attempt some sort of Project Youth 2.0? Surely we can’t bin another generation off so players like Lichtsteiner get a game?

I know, I know, feels kind of horrible to think about going back to something that didn’t work. But come on, the original project produced some gems that were sourced from around Europe. The thing it lacked was technical know how when it came to tactics, and it lacked enough investment to build out good players past the starting 11. Imagine if we’d put some of those sides under Klopp or Carlo at the time?

Are you telling me you wouldn’t want to see a rebirth of that 2008 side? Before it all went to shit after the turn of the year, that team was playing some of the most beautiful football we’d ever seen.

Arsenal were one point off the top in Feb of the 2010-11… again, a bit more depth and fitness care at the time could have powered us through. Those years where Wenger wouldn’t address his own inadequacies were so frustrating, because at least he still had the knack for scouting top talent. Imagine if he’d surrounded himself with up and coming coaching talent and taken on Shad F?

Anyway, I’m trying to strategise as to how we bring ourselves up to the next level. I can’t help but think in a summer where we’re going to have to drastically cut down on expensive players, that the logical next step to find our future is going to be a blend of home grown players, exceptional Euro talent on the up (Sarr / Pepe / Pavon / Ligt (lol) / Fornals), with a few really top quality experienced players bringing level heads to the dressing room.

That then gives us the pipeline of players that we can sell, so we can invest in the right experienced players and continue to feed the beast, which has effectively helped liverpool climb out of their mess and turn into a European powerhouse once again.

Right, that’s my thoughts done, see you in the comments.

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grooveydaddy

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Dr Emil schaffhausen

Love the optimism and agree with giving the youngsters a chance but how do we afford the “exceptional euro talent on the up “ and the “ top quality experienced players “ when we have no assets player wise and apparently “ were skint” ?!?

Guns of Hackney

Peter

If we’re honest and I mean critically honest…Ashley Cole has been the only player Arsenal have produced in, I actually don’t know. I’m going to leave Wilshere off the list as he was a) always injured and b) not as good as he thought he was.

For any club in world football to produce one player in 25/30 years??? Is astonishing.

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shaun

Shame on you. That’s like hoping your exgirlfriend marries a guy with erectile dysfunction, loses his job, then gets BUSTED on men’s dating app Grindr by her bitchy work colleagues. Absolute shame on you.

dude you ok or can we help you ?

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Guns

Watch it son. I quite enjoy your posts so I’m going to chalk the Wilshere comment down to it being jokes Friday

You forgot iwobi.

Cesc Appeal

The rumour is we’re after N’Koulou and that will be it for January. If that is true it shows what a weak position the club is in. Slightly comforting that Spurs are also looking at him though. Agree with the post, the clearest differences for me between Arsenal and then City and Liverpool that we can correct were the full backs being excellent for Liverpool but then real difference players like Sterling and Sane made for City in their wide play and also cutting in, the pace, directness and dribbling. We have absolutely nothing in the squad like that. Not… Read more »

Un na naai

Project youth all day long.

Fuck muppets like Elneny and sokratis when we have viable and better alternatives coming through. All technically trained and saturated in the “arsenal way” give them some defensive coaching and we could be looking at some serious players in the next 2-3 seasons

gunnershabz

oh I miss santi cazorla he was brilliant last night

if only he was 28/29 we could of had torriera and cazorla in midfield

Guns of Hackney

Un

You can’t include Wilshere for that 45 mins against Barca. Sorry. Unless he scored a 50 yard wonder goal that made Marco Van Basten’s look like a tap in and it won the champions league…he can’t ever be included. No dice.

Cesc Appeal

I don’t know how long Mavropanos has been back in training but seeing him get some time against Blackpool would be great. If he can’t start it would be nice to see Medley get some time.

I know the game is away which always makes it trickier, but I’m really tired of seeing Mustafi/Kozz, we know what we will get, they aren’t getting better, let’s try something else.

What’s happening with Smith Rowe as well? Is he still out, otherwise it would be nice to see him get some time tomorrow as well.

Jamie

Pete –

It’s clear the execs were completely devoid of ideas these last few years, throwing good money after bad and hoping something would stick. The Ozil deal was peak panic.

We’ll be feeling the effects of these massively inflated contracts for this season and next at the very least.

Cesc Appeal

Pedro I just think Gazidis and Wenger were totally out of their depth. When you think Gazidis was essentially supposed to be what Venkatesham is now and Wenger was being Emery, Mislintat and Sanllehi. I don’t say that with any sympathy because that is what he wanted and why he thought Kroenke was great and Usmanov was to be avoided. They created an insulated little society at Arsenal and as was said by many of us year after year on here the longer we kept ourselves rooted into Wenger’s Arsenal the longer it would take to recover. I think we’re… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Peter I’m a logical guy believe it or not, and I am genuinely puzzled how we can’t produce at least one player every year who could be considered ‘class’. Why have a training facility? Who or what is going on down there? Do you think that the young players at arsenal have no respect for the club and ergo, don’t care? Look at the Liverpool youth and the difference is staggering. They literally bleed for the club and I wonder if it’s because Liverpool carry so much kudos in world football. Are arsenal just a day care centre for yoots… Read more »

Pierre

Pedro
I think it all stems from us losing half a team to city ,Barca and the Ashley Cole saga 10/12 years ago because we wasn’t prepared to a pay bit extra in wages to keep them at the club.

The last few years we have gone too far the other way as we didn’t want to be seen a as a selling club anymore ….bit of a cock up really from all concerned who dealt with contracts.

Guns of Hackney

Peter I’ll admit straight off that I don’t follow Arsenal in the development side but…Les Read? There’s a guy called Les Read at Arsenal. I mean…doesn’t he sound like a blue comedian you would find on a Thursday at a working men’s club. I totally agree that we need to start the recruiting process from the ground up. Buying the best players does work if you’re Real or PSG etc as they can absorb poor managers and coaches etc. We can’t. There has to be people in the world of football who would jump at the chance to come to… Read more »

Jamie

I’m not being facetious, but wouldn’t Arteta be a tremendous appointment for our Academy Director position? Give him £2m a year and get it done. If he kills it, he’d walk into Emery’s position in 1.5 years.
Seems like the most minor of sacrifices to make in order to land the top job and Arsenal, plus he would know which kids to promote, having coached them the season before.

Maybe Per and Arteta could swap places to get the deal over the line.. (joke Friday)

Jamie

top job at* Arsenal

Guns of Hackney

I like Jamie.

Alexanderhenry

Pedro

In a way you’re right. Project youth 2.0 here we come- do I get a special prize for coining the phrase project youth 2.0 btw?

Anyway, arsenal won’t spend big enough to buy in the talent so it’s back to the Carlos velas and Nicholas bendtners I suppose.

Under a really exceptional coach it may work in the long term. We’ll see.

Emiratesstroller

Jeanette Kliger You are 100% right about your comments on last thread. There are too many posters who like to abuse others rather than focus on football matters and their “support” for Arsenal. No-one should ever be upset with “constructive” criticism, but sadly there are those who like to be abusive for sake of it. On Ozil the reality is as I have said on many occasions that he is currently unsaleable or unloanable. No-one is going to pay him £350K pw let alone a transfer fee factoring in his current performance and output levels. What the club needs to… Read more »

Un na naai

Jamie

That would be great but arteta strikes me as an ambitious guy who wants to manage atbthe top level.

Batistuta

Samuel Chikwueze of Villarreal, how did we fudge that signing up when we got his brother, you want fast and young and should be cheap enough, get in there right now before there’s a crowd of potential buyers for him

Daz

So swissramble has done a thread on club investments checkout his Twitter, no prizes for guessing how much Stan has put into the club over the last 10 years

Mystacris

I’m not gonna lie…. I was doing exactly that & I hadn’t even seen the Lovren article! After Saturday they needed bringing back down a peg and it means we’re all square & only 13 points of the winners spot….
” Whilst it is still mathematically & footballistically pozzible, we muzt believe we haz a chance…. This team has a ztrong spirit & togezernezz and we believe zat we can fight for zee title! ”
Ps… BIGUP SANTI CAZORLA!

Un na naai

Who has chelsea produced in 20 years that’s world class?? John Terry aside.

Nobody.
Man City??

Only united Liverpool and West Ham can really lay claim to such territory with Newcastle and spurs being also rans

Un na naai

Fa Cup third round is as good as the interlull these days

Jamie

Un – I can’t see beyond the following scenarios: Arteta feels he isn’t ready for a top job and thinks it’s better for his career at this point to remain a coach at City or, Arteta feels anything other than the Arsenal or City top job is beneath him (other managerial positions needed filling, and still need filling across Europe, Utd being the prime example), so he’ll continue being a coach at City until either management position becomes available. He apparently threw his hat in the ring this summer for the Arsenal gig, so it seems like the 2nd scenario… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Un na naaii George Graham told me during his stewardship of club that becoming a professional football at a top level club was a one in a million chance. That was in the era when almost every player was British. Today the possibility of a home grown player getting into a top division team is even more remote with the global reach for players. Arsenal have at the moment three to four youngsters on their books who are good enough to join first team squad. Whether they can progress beyond that level remains to be seen. The club needs to… Read more »

Pierre

Stroller With ozil out injured ,ironically it may do him a favour if the team continues to struggle, though the main struggle will always be in the defensive areas , but then again ozil seems to cop most of the flak in that area as well when he is playing. It’s amazing how the signing of a new contract is supposed to make a player change the very successful way he has played for the last 12 years…. If I was Ozil I would go and play for a manager who appreciates the way I play , there is nothing… Read more »

unai's clean socks

Liverpool developed sterling, suarez and coutinho.
dare you to calculate how much that combined transfer income is.
and they were a better challenger to the league than we were during that time.

heck Madrid or barca might even come in for salah eventually, another pretty penny to reinvest into their squad and he’s pretty much gonna inspire them to a league title this season.

Tottenham got fucking 50mil for Kyle walker.
if that isn’t enough evidence that the way to go is by developing in house talent….well nothing will convince you.

Pierre

Un
Southampton

Un na naai

Stroller

Not that I ever got that far in football but yes I’d agree that it’s the 1% that make it through to even professional terms and then a further 1% that reach clubs like arsenal. That’s exactly my point. We have a crop of players here who seem to me capable of being arsenal first teamers with AMN and Smith Rowe being the most notable of the bunch. Maybe Saka too but I’ve only seen snippets of him

Jamie

The fact that Ozil doesn’t score at least 10 deflected goals off his enormous eyeballs a season tells you all you need to know about how effectively he uses his brain and physical attributes on the pitch.

No matter where Ozil is on the pitch, at least one of his eyeballs is always in the opposition box. He’d barely have to cover any yards over 90 mins. Sort of like having a striker with at least 1 foot in the opposition box at all times, even when back defending. Think about it. That’s all I’m saying.

Un na naai

Jamie

He always keeps his eye on the hall though

Eduardo

It irks me how out fans cling to the invincible thing. It’s kind of a misnomer, considering that we got knocked out of all the cups. That team should have won the treble, but they choked against an average Chelsea.

Guns of Hackney

Jamie

Steady on. I’m the fucking comic around here.

Jamie

Guns –

I’m just the fluffer. jwl is the big ticket on a Friday. Everyone knows that.

Un na naai

Eduardo You talk about the treble like it’s some sort right. As though god himself ordained it. What a spoilt brat. There is only one treble winner from this country and only one invincibles. Both outstanding achievements among outstanding achievements. The pinnacle of British football and you complain that we didn’t win the treble??? Don’t get me wrong I was gutted that chelsea knocked us out but we had no right. Chelsea did their usual smash and grab and that was the end of our dominance over them don’t forget they’d just spent an unprecedented amount of money on their… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Jwl couldn’t lace my mic.

Do you want to be the straight guy or funny man?

Charlie George

Great Post I concur. Only way forward. British DoF British coach or of Knowledge of British game British Scouts British talent from our brilliant lower leagues Only foreign talent that is recruited is free: Eg Bellerin,Kolasicec, Suker,Flamini, or exceptionally low fees ( Anelks, Vieria, Edu) We want a British based power game – played with technical, intelligent and determined warrriors. No gloves allowed for the players – during games. An ‘All black rugby’ winning mentality. And a focus on solely winning the next game, No 3 plans! No 5 year plans! no tactical visions, spill ( like this Emery -thinking… Read more »

Hitchy

Un na Naai

Your forgetting Southampton in there dude

Pierre

Jamie
“No matter where Ozil is on the pitch, at least one of his eyeballs is always in the opposition box. He’d barely have to cover any yards over 90 mins. Sort of like having a striker with at least 1 foot in the opposition box at all times, even when back defending. Think about it. That’s all I’m saying.”

Don’t give up your day job………that’s all I’m saying.

Champagne charlie

Charlie George

British biscuits at half time too amirite?

Nelson

I have read a lot on player’s salaries recently. Here are the data found in
https://www.totalsportek.com/money/arsenal-player-salaries/

Stephan Lichtsteiner (New Signing) £90,000 1 Year deal (2019)
Mesut Özil (New Deal) £300,000 3 Years (2021)
Henrikh Mkhitaryan £120,000 3 Years (2021)

Contrary to the number quoted by most of us: Ozil £350,000 and Mikki £200,000
What bugs me most is paying Licht £90,000 for assisting the opposition. I don’t want to see him playing for us in another EPL game again.

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Hitchy

Southampton have done well but I wouldn’t equate lallana, shaw, ox and Rodriguez with the likes of Scholes fowler Owen Beckham giggs macca gazza Shearer and Beardsley

Or Ferdinand Lampard joe Cole and carrick

Or even Kane trippier and Walker

Un na naai

Mcvities all day long
Hobnob anyone?

Marko

when we have viable and better alternatives coming through. All technically trained and saturated in the “arsenal way” give them some defensive coaching and we could be looking at some serious players in the next 2-3 seasons

What an idiot. What do we have coming through? Nelson and Smith Rowe maybe and on the defensive side maybe Medley if you’re lucky and keep in mind if you go down that route it could be at the cost of short term success. Yeah we don’t have shit coming through mate

Marko

Also the lower leagues in British football are not brimming with talent. That’s ridiculous

Emiratesstroller

Pierre

My overwhelming impression is that Ozil is “depressed”. That is hardly surprising considering how he was treated in Germany and by some of the so-called Arsenal supporters who resent the massive salary that he is paid.

Ozil was never superman and for all his perceived faults he is an immensely
gifted footballer.

It is time that the club and supporters get behind the player. If we do so it is
just possible that the player will turn a corner and prove to be an asset rather
than the liability that so many consider him to be.

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Marko

Idiot?? Moi?? I guess suggesting “coaching is fanciful” is just your typical high flying intellectual statement in Dublin though isn’t it

Stick to nihilism and leave the football to others son

Cesc Appeal

‘Ozil was never superman’

He’s not even Lois Lane.

Marko

My overwhelming impression is that Ozil is “depressed”. That is hardly surprising considering how he was treated in Germany and by some of the so-called Arsenal supporters who resent the massive salary that he is paid. Listen here you pathetic piece of shit supporter there would not be an issue with him if he played well and showed effort and looked like he wants to be an Arsenal player. I’ll say again just to get it through to you there wouldn’t be any issue if he was playing well showing effort and looked like he wants to be an Arsenal… Read more »

Un na naai

Our yoof won’t gwt anywhere without coaching, and with coaching being fanciful in your world marko then it makes sense that you wouldn’t expect any young players to progress.

I mean becks and lamps and Scholes were just born world class. No coaching required.

Pffff stop being fanciful

Marko

Funny thing is he doesn’t get any obvious abuse at the stadium and I doubt he goes on le-grove so I can’t see how he gets any kind of obvious criticism that might turn him into a wet blanket. Maybe the comments on his twitch stream get to him.

Un na naai

Stroller He’s a self important bug eyed whinger. Poor me bla bla bla He’s had 4 years to improve and imprint himself onto the fans. Save his wonderful first assist against Sunderland he never really ever got going. That’s down to nobody but him. The crowds aren’t stupid We can see when a player turns up or when he’s not interested. Many players have come and gone with a similar languid style but still produced and didn’t get paid £1.5m a month to do it either. If he cannot motivate himself irrespective of money for champions league nights (when we… Read more »

Jim Lahey

Very confused…

I was under the impression that Liverpool had already won the league.. Just like the league they won a few years back.

Emiratesstroller

Una Na Naii I think that Arsenal have currently 4-5 talented players primarily playing offensively. A sports journalist who I know fairly well and probably follows Arsenal more than most including the Academy rates Smith-Rowe as the best of the bunch. Nelson also looks quite promising following his performance this season for both Hoffenheim and England U21. Saka may turn out to be a talent. He is only 17, but there have been a lot of kids like him e.g. Pennant who never made the grade. Maitland-Niles shows some flashes of promise, but he looks like a “jack of all… Read more »

Un na naai

Jim

You’d have thought so coming here alright

Marko

Don I refuse to converse with you you’re clearly a dumbass. But suffice to say that all the coaching in the world didn’t help Wilshere did it. A shit player who couldn’t be coached into a good one

Homegrown?

Kolo Toure arrived from nowhere for the price of a sherbert dip and won the league as an invincible. Surely that’s home grown. At least as much as Robertson is at Liverpool – who’s won nuffink yet By the same token, you can have Fabregas, Ljungberg, Anelka, Vieira etc. For more recent yoof projects; Bellerin, Maitland Niles, Smith Rowe, Nelson, Iwobi all count… You don’t need to win something to be good. Otherwise Matt LeTissier is crap. Biggest problem in current squad is strength in depth. We were doing great until we got overexcited by the result against the spuds,… Read more »

Hitchy

Un na naai Would you include Gareth Bale? As Soton for finding him, or Tottenham for his development jump as a LW, or Real Madrid for taking him up another level again? The huge Development of Virgil Van Dijk at Southampton? Took Wanyama from a simple ‘destroyer’ at Celtic, to a top-4 level CM. Toby Alderweireld is another that broke through there…. Walcott, for all his faults – was discovered by Southampton, and definitely should have made more of a career for himself. I can’t remember the name of their Sporting Director off the top of my head, but he… Read more »

Un na naai

Stroller I agree. I’d like to see him as a combative midfielder AMN He has everything needed for me. I wasn’t sure at first and didn’t really rate him but the more I watch him the more he grows on me. He may never have the talent of many other players but neither did ray parlour and he was great for us. He also could play cmf or full back when needed as well as right wing or as a more orthodox right midfielder in a 442 The utility thing fucked so many of our previous crop that it’s deemed… Read more »

Un na naai

Hitchy

Tough call. I doubt anyone expected bale to become what he became

I argue with a spurs pal of mine who’s quite involved with the club over this quite frequently.
I credit Redknapp
He credits bale himself and his self determination

Un na naai

Marko

I wouldn’t call an arsenal and England midfielder shit. After all. He is the 0.1% that made it to the top of the professional football trade

And if you’re saying I’m thick I must be. You are the authority after all

Un na naai

And making statements to you is no more conversing than it is when I make statements at a lump of shite. You’re both as equally inept at processing basic information

Un na naai

Hitchy

Southampton is a fair call but we have picked youngsters up and turned them into world class players in that time

I thought we were talking at the production of top top players from grass routes up

For that reason I wouldn’t include Southampton in the top bracket as I wouldn’t include arsenal and Chelsea

Emiratesstroller

PEDRO

Ms Jeanette Kliger complained today about some of the abuse posted on Le Grove. You asked her to be specific.

Well I suggest that you read Marco’s comments for a start. He has just said
“listen here you pathetic piece of shit supporter”

Personally I have broad shoulders and can take this abuse, but others like Ms Kliger are quite correct in their opinion that someone like Marco should be
binned.

Pierre

Marko
“Listen here you pathetic piece of shit supporter”

You should show Emiratestroller some respect ….he has more class and intelligence than you have or are ever likely to have .

He comes on le grove and posts without malice but always with integrity .

Micheal

Developing a good crop of youngsters is clearly a top rate idea. In many ways the investment in a first rate scouting-youth development programme to find young players of all nationalities is a better way to spend money than say, £16m on Chambers or paying Lichsteiner £90k a week.

However so many of the good deas like this stumble and fall over the crucial and fundamental issue that Arsenal lack a vision. Perdo posed this important question a few days ago. Where is the long term plan ?

Dissenter

Emirates gives abuse as everyone else.
I know that because he’s abused me before.

If you’re going to call out Marko then make a general call to all to cease all the nonsense.

raptora

I said it a while ago and I’ll say it again. Walcott, Cesc, RvP, Hleb, Ramsey, Song, Flamini, Toure, Koscielny, Giroud, Mertesacker, Cazorla, Monreal, Alexis… I’m probably missing someone. Part of the recent players that will be remembered and will be thought of fondly of in time. It’s Ozil’s 6-th season playing for us. One would thought that he would have imprinted himself in the Arsenal history long time ago. By the time his contract will expire it will be his 8-th full season in the red and white colors. Ozil will never be belong to the category of players… Read more »

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Pierre

You’re just as well to take a dump and turn around and try to reason with it

The bloke’s a world class Lionel Messi Muhammad Ali knob

Stroller never bothers anyone

gambon

I think with Mislintat on board its absolutely guaranteed that we’re heading back to Project Youth 2.0 I said yesterday, and i’ll say again: Hummells Akanji Zagadou Weigl Gundogan Kagawa Dembele Pulisic Sancho Auba Lewandowski Not only will it mean that we have hugely saleable assets, we will also have serious quality in the team. The only question is how long it takes him to get this up and running at Arsenal. I had a look at Dortmund signings for the last 8-9 years, and what struck me is how few failures there were. Even when he didnt really get… Read more »

Dissenter

Saying Ozil is depressed is silly because we all know the chap who posted it is not a mental health professional.
Even if was, he would know it’s grossly unethical to diagnose one you haven’t personally assessed.

Let’s just buy Ozil a giant pillow, shall we?

Graham62

I’m depressed because no one on here is talking about the greatest day( well, it used to be the greatest day) on the Footballing calendar………..The FA Cup 3rd Round. Ah the memories. Growing up listening to Radio 2. The jam-packed stadiums, shite pitches, snow drifts, Parker coats, the all too familiar giant killings. Yep, it is amazing to think that the country came to a standstill back in the sixties, seventies and eighties, on this special special day. Between 1970 and 1984 I had the joy and privilege of attending eight of Arsenal’s FA Cup 3rd round matches, mainly with… Read more »

Bamford10

For the record, I never said PSG are a more “prestigious” club than United. What I said (18 months ago?) was that Kane would not start for or be signed by one of the top four European clubs. My list of said clubs was Madrid, City, Bayern and PSG. Kane’s fan-boys here replied that Kane could be signed by United tomorrow, to which I said, United are not at the level of those teams at the moment and haven’t been for years. I said this because it’s true, and nothing about United’s storied history or global revenues changes this one… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Dissenter

I have never abused you.

I may have been critical or disagreed with what you posted. That is entirely different.

In the time that I have posted on Le Grove I have refrained from abusing anyone. However, it is true that I have targeted in that time three people before today who I considered should be binned for abusive attacks.

Two of those had been previously binned by Pedro.

Dissenter

I wish we declared this season a write off and used it to stock up on the hottest young talent around the world.
No more 30+ year olds, just excellent talent from the Mislintat Rolodex.

Bamford10

Pedro

As for Jeanette’s complaint, see Joe’s endless childish posts to gambon last night. Guy needs to get a grip.

Dissenter

Who’s Jeanette?

Micheal

On the day Le Grove discusses the failings of the recent youth development programme, there has been a significant movement – Bendtner starts his prison sentence.

Bamford10

Emirates does not deserve abuse for any reason and definitely not for his middle-of-the-road take on Ozil. I disagree with him — Ozil may be suffering from depression, but he was underperforming long before this summer and I’m not convinced keeping him is best for the club — but unlike certain people here, Emirates is sincere and reasonable and is not a troll or a wind-up merchant or a verbal bully.

Emiratesstroller

Dissenter

I suggest that you take a look at the pattern of Ozil’s current malaise.

When you read on almost a weekly basis that the player is ill or has suffered different injuries and Emery comes out with statements that the player is fragile what should the conclusion be ?

I am not making excuses for Ozil, but there are plenty of well heeled people in
public life who earn a lot of money and cannot cope. That includes footballers.

Bamford10

Dissenter

She’s a substitute for Ronette.

Un na naai

Bamford

That’s utter tosh mate
It had nothing to do with Kane at all actually it was to do with pulling power and attracting big names and you claimed that PSG regardless of money was a more prestigious club than Man U

Bamford10

All set luncheonette
Kitchenette to let
I bet I get hamburgerette again
We met in a launderette and kissed beneath the air jet
No sweat no threat
Another one in the back of the net
When I met Jeanette
Substitute Ronette
She said, will you remember
I said, I could never forget her
Au naturalette
Her mom’s a millionette
So we shared one last cigarette and swapped false addresses
Jeanette
Jeanette

___

Good song. Great band.

Un na naai

Bam

Agree regarding stroller
He never bothers anyone

You’re on your own here marko

Bamford10

Un Na

Nope. It was exactly as I’ve said. And now you’re both getting it wrong and lying.

Why don’t you dig up the conversation and we’ll review it?

Un na naai

Coz I’m not a lame-o

Micheal

“Agree regarding stroller
He never bothers anyone”

Le Grove is a forum is for debate and discussing different opinions on Arsenal matters. The abusers on here have nothing to bring to the debate. Ignore them.

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