Arsenal still has an identity crisis (long read)

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The more I pondered where we are as a club, the clearer it became that we’ve made a total hash of the rebirth. A lot of that comes from Ivan Gazidis who has to be one of the worst decision makers in the world of football. Guided by ego and shite people getting in his ear, he’s overseen a transition that’ll likely go down in history as poorly as the one at Manchester United. The main difference being that Arsenal doesn’t have the same resources to claw their way out like our northern brethren.

I think a lot of the issues start with our identity problem. Arsenal never recovered from our delusions of grandeur after the incredible progress we made in the late nineties and early 2000s. We won three Premier League titles, we built a new stadium, we were promised riches beyond our wildest dreams, but then Chelsea and City came along with petrodollars and we didn’t adapt.

Think about this, Ivan Gazidis and Arsene Wenger’s strategy for beating out the big spenders was to convince themselves that regulation would level the playing field. Guess what, it never happened. It was like the two of them had never watched megabrands like Starbucks and Amazon evade tax laws with armies of clever lawyers and influence purchase.

Instead of recalibrating for the modern era where we’d have to work out a strategy that went beyond pound note expenditure, we buried our heads in the sand and hoped. We effectively became a second tier club that believed it was top tier, and sadly, we’ve still not woken up to our place.

That’s why the club will still complain about money issues (despite being top 3 net spenders over 5 years). Our culture is built on excuses as to why we can’t, instead of how we can. As fans, we bemoan our lot in life while Spurs, Bournemouth and Wolves massively outperform expectations. There is absolutely no reason why we can’t be performing with the best teams in Europe. Our wage bill is 263m euros and it’s 55% of our turnover. That’s the 9th highest in Europe. Higher than Juve, Roma, Dortmund, Altelti and Inter. We’re a couple of players shy of Bayern.  We’re the only club in the top 10 for wages not in the Champions League.

The reason we don’t compete is we haven’t accepted our reality.

There is no guiding philosophy at Arsenal. There is no identity. Our structure is not built on an idea, so we get by throwing shit at the wall, but the chances of succeeding are greatly diminished.

Just look at how we hired. Emery seems like a lovely guy who wants to do well, but he doesn’t have that special sauce you need to win at a club like Arsenal. Sure, give him PSG and he’ll drop a title at the second attempt, but moving Arsenal to the next level? How is that ever going to be on the cards in a league that has Pochettino, Klopp, Sarri and Pep Guardiola. You need to battle ideas with ideas. Arsenal took the safe option. Someone who will come in and upgrade the basics and bring a bit of intelligence to the setup. That’s table stakes though, and we really were in a situation with Wenger where basic competence was needed towards the end. That lowered our standards and we landed where we landed.

For me, there is no scenario or amount of money that is bringing us up to our rivals levels. We’re 6 months into this project and we still don’t have a defined style. There’s no excuse for that, just throw on a Leeds game and tell me 6 months is too little time. Our defence is worse than last season despite investing in it and making it a focal point. We have a DM we all adore, yet we’re still leaking goals like a Sunday league team. Halftime subs were our drug at the start of the reign, now they’re starting to look like a predictable panic ripcord. We’ve not led at halftime in 18 of 19 games. Injuries are piling up like we suspected they would. They’re so problematic, Hector Bellerin is out. Double sessions come at a cost. For all the tactical nous we hoped we’d hired in, we went to Anfield with a game plan that was so bad we conceded 5.

Doesn’t bode well, does it? However, I can see the flip side. We went on a terrific run, he is modernizing the club, we fight harder, run further and we’re in better shape than we were last year regardless of what the naysayers try and convince you of. That said, it’s not good enough and nor will it ever be.

We have a historical example of a very similar situation like this just before Wenger arrived. Bruce Rioch came in after we’d finished 12th in the league (6 points off relegation), he purchased Platt and Bergkamp, and moved us up to 5th. David Dein knew he wasn’t good enough and pulled the trigger on his tenure, replacing him with someone who did have the special sauce needed to find the next level.

To find that next level, we need to decide what our footballing philosophy is. How do we want to play, what do we need to play that way, and how do we achieve our objectives without Man City money.

Liverpool are heavy metal football and guess what, they hire for it. The players they bring in are fast, powerful, technically gifted and hugely resilient from a fitness standpoint.

R.B Leipzig has a stunning approach to growth that’s brought them huge success in a short space of time. They play high octane pressing football, they buy in young players under the age of 23 years old, they have a very smart youth academy, and they build feeder clubs that supply them with the players they need. This is the group that produced Keita and Mane (Salzburg just dropped an unbeaten season). They know who they are, and what they want to achieve.

What are we looking to do? Why the fuck are we binning off Aaron Ramsey for EVER BANEGA? What is the vision there? What are we planning for? If there were a clear strategy of who we wanted to be as a club, tell me why Mesut Ozil was allowed to stay on? There is no defined vision for what we’re about.

We’ve had different variations of a north star in the past. Originally, Wenger wanted to play the most technical football in the league with the fittest and most powerful players he could find in the then closed markets of Europe. Then he shifted gears to Project Youth, which was taking strategic punts on the best kids in the world and growing them into world-class players.

What exactly is our policy? Half-baked again. We buy in a little bit of everything and it all looks a touch meh. But then again, what are the parameters we’re working within? This is not the sharp player purchase strategy we’d hoped for. We have two great strikers who can’t really play together. We bought an aging right back who isn’t fit for purpose. The swap deal with Mikhi has tanked. Guendouzi and Torreira are great. Sokratis has done well, but again, he’s at the heart of a defence that’s failing. Leno was an expensive gamble that doesn’t look to have worked. What unites all of those purchases? Nothing.

The youth academy is another area where you fail if you don’t have a guiding principle or vision. It’s also an area you can win greatly. I love Per Mertesacker, but if you are a club that can’t compete, growing your own is a great way in, however, you don’t put generations of young footballers in the hands of someone who has no experience of developing kids. I am not for one minute saying Per can’t be great, I’m just saying it shows the lack of leadership at the club. Taking a punt on a young manager is very different to taking a punt on the Dean of a University.

So how do we move forward from here?

I think the club need to be brutally honest about where we’re going and whether the current approach is going to bear fruit. There’s no point in pissing around for 2 years to find out that the decision we made wasn’t the right one, or even worse, a stasis move. We need to make a bold decision about the future.

We need to be honest about who we are as a club. We then need to craft a plan around how we make it back to the top, or at least to a level where we’re building towards something. #Top4 is not a strategy, it’s a goal. We need to envision a style of fast, powerful technical football and then figure out exactly the type of players we need to deliver on that. That means the best coaches, the best young players from around the world and that means and investment of faith from the fans because we’re going in an exciting new direction.

At the moment, it looks like we’re just going to keep on investing in something that has little chance of succeeding. We can’t spend another 10 years in no man’s land, we just can’t.

Happy New Year, thanks for reading! x

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Guns of Hackney

Emery out. Wenger back as caretaker. Hire Ryan Giggs!

Bosh.

arsene's used sock

look at us desperately trying to figure out who brought in which player and for what reason.
so glad the wenger era is over.

Marko

Go back in for Allegri, Jardim, Nagglesmann, Vieria or quite literally give Pep a blank chequebook and tell him to fill it out.

Allegri is at a great club with great players competing for the biggest trophies he’s never going to Arsenal. Nagelsmann has Hoffenheim sitting in 7th place in the league and Vieira has Nice sitting 10th in France. So I’m going to have a wild guess here and say that you’ll only be giving them around 6 months as well before you demand the sack.

unai's clean socks

hey pedders should I just use a different email and name cause I keep being put in moderation with the old one, and I’m pretty sure you’ve ok’d it twice in the last 3 days.

Marko

So guns do you ever want to be taken seriously or do you just exist to annoy? Either offer up reasons for why you think Arsenal should hire whoever or go back to taking care of the “baby”

Marc

Bamford

It’s funny how the Poch is seen as some sort of god on here and it wasn’t picked up on why when the Spud’s had the chance to go ahead of City and close the gap to Liverpool to 3 points they bottled it and lost at home to Wolves, all in the last 20 minutes.

Guns of Hackney

Marko

Dude, maybe Emery just doesn’t land with some people?

Look at me…I’m a massive hit with the ladies but not everyone on here likes me.

Que sera.

Dissenter

Pizzaz!!!!

Add that to the fairy dust language which now includes “X-factor” and “special sauce”

We need a new manager with Hollywood looks, shiny white teeth and an ultra portable money printing press.

loyika

@ Marko Carlos Anchelotti should have been whom we went for to steady the ship (in my humble opinion) Someone like him would have been clear with the fan base on where we are and what the end game for the season would be. He would have been an easy transition for a turn around before going in for an Emery or whomever. Carlo might not be pulling up any trees as he has gotten older but he would have been a wise head and someone respected that the Fans could have rallied around knowing that his job was short… Read more »

Marko

Arteta would have bought the unknown and a bit of pizazz. Nagglesmann is the best young manager in the world. Either one gives something that emery doesn’t.

Which is?

Pedro you’re on great. Worried about the vision and the future of Arsenal who do you want appointed so? Whose vision impresses you the most?

Marc

Guns

The ones with an adam’s apple don’t count!

Guns of Hackney

Marko

“Baby” is here on my arm while I debate bullshit to you.

I’m not sure if I want to be taken seriously. No one on here can influence Arsenal football club. I’m here for the laughs.

Some very funny people on here. Including you.

Guns of Hackney

Marc

A very good friend of mine tells me that I once pursued a very obvious cat with a beard and skirt in a Spanish bar near Tottenham Court Road. I was smitten.

Marc

Guns

But did you pull?

Marko

See loyika at least you offered up something more than sack Emery bring in Arteta he’d be special why? Because. I wanted Carlo but alot didn’t because of the whole not pulling up trees stuff. I’m beginning to think that you won’t ever be able to please the Arsenal fanbase. Shocking I know

Guns of Hackney

Artetanal FC.

The Art of war.

To Mikel and back.

The headlines even write themselves.

Vieria I would struggle with.

Vieria good from the Gunners.

I could write for the Sun!

Un na naai

CA

You make sure that you don’t get pasted 5-1. You make sure that your defence doesn’t hand all 5 goals over. You coach your ideas into them

If there is more than what we spent then why didn’t we spend it then instead of holding onto it?

Guns of Hackney

Marc

No mate. Oddly enough the transvestite left the bar as I was being annoying apparently.

I was just being inquisitive.

Dissenter

Pedro
Please give Guns of Hackney one guest post some time.
I will need to print and frame that one.

Vintage Gun

Good post Pedro regarding our “lack of identity” Although this issue has been ongoing for a good few years now. You knocking Emery for lacking “THE SAUCE” had me in bits though, especially when Arteta apparently oozes the stuff without even having to manage a single game to obtain it. What disqualified Emery from possessing “THE SAUCE?” His teeth? or the way he says “process”? Jokes aside, where on God’s corrupted Earth did people expect us be at the halfway point of the season? Honestly? I’m not for one second saying we should be dusting down the bottles of vintage… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Dissenter

I have a column in the local Klan monthly newsletter.

Un na naai

How can marko CA and dissenter be happy with what’s been offered in 20 games. There are some positive signs but for the most part it’s just mediocre. Not terrible (yesterday aside) just mediocre. Every bit as mediocre as wenger’s last 5 years. Maybe even more so.

unai's clean socks

is there any manager that is gettable that has ucl pedigree and a knack for developing academy graduates?
that’s the manager we need lol

Marko

Pedro you’re the one who wrote the article you’re the one who doesn’t rate Emery who wants him replaced and wants to see a firm vision for the club. I’m merely asking who that person is realistically? Emery wasn’t the only manager we could get he was the best one between himself Arteta and Vieira

Guns of Hackney

You know you suck when people are okay with ‘just losing 5-1’.

Cesc Appeal

Mayweather turns up for 2 minutes, doesn’t work up a sweat, knocks out the kickboxer, banks £9 Million.

Un na naai

Marko

Allegri or Carlo Ancelotti realistically. Why not??

Guns of Hackney

Leeds are better than Arsenal.

…and they survived Peter Ridsdale aka Chuckles the Clown.

Guns of Hackney

Mayweather V Thunderlips

loyika

@ Marko On your players stuff…I do remember when Mustafi came on with his – I am learning and improving everyday – rubbish (like some other players did @ the same period) many on here came and said Mustafi was shyte and will still be shyte (and we did say/accept it was Arsene’s fault that he was bought and kept on). But some other said – Oh no…look this shows that Emery has the “Magic Wand” and will turn players into this and that, just wait and see (because now they would have proper coaching than what was applicable under… Read more »

Marko

If Leeds can go from 7th to top in 6 months playing an outrageous style of football, then so can a manager working with the 9th biggest wage bill in world football… How the fuck is that comparable to our situation in the premier league? And you’ve written article upon article over the years about our players being overpaid so why does what they’re being paid translate into performances? I’m not sure the setup we have currently is taking us there. Pardon my language but not only are you giving the new manager 6 months but you’re giving Raul since… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Arsenal v Leeds Fa Cup third round.

Marko

Not like that didn’t happen at PSG. Remember that Barca CL capitulation?

I’m sure you can find a heavy defeat in Carlo or Rafa’s past. Same with Nagelsmann. Obviously not with Arteta even though I’m sure there’s a 5 a side in training that he’d like to forget. Point is in the same scenario a couple of days ago do you see Arteta or Nagelsmann doing any better? Ultimately do you see them doing a better job inside 6 months in the same scenario?

James.wood

Yes Pedro petrochemical rich.
Abramovich money portfolio made 1.6 million a day
this year without anything else he is wrapped up in.?
I’m afraid Kroenke cannot compete with the big boys
even though he is a billionaire he is more paper rich than cash rich.
Anyway why would he want to dig deep when he’s racking it in
and feeding his love of the NFL.
The old saying goes speculate to accumulate but don’t exspect
any big names at our club with the current owners.

Marko

Hoffenheim also have one win in 9 Nagelsmann has his own struggles at the moment

Guns of Hackney

Marko

Maybe it’s not about them doing better or worse, but differently. Perhaps those two may have offered us a vision towards the future that we haven’t quite seen with Emery.

Anyway, new year Marko. Good luck for 2019. I’ll try and be a better poster with less bullshite. Peace.

Dissenter

Raul and Sven must have had a plan in mind when they cancelled the deal Ramsey had on the table.
Hopefully that plan isn’t Banega.
Lets see where we go this TW,

Bamford10

Bellerin is back in training, apparently. This will help a little.

Dissenter

Guns of H
“Maybe it’s not about them doing better or worse, but differently”

Yes…with pizzaz
Your measuring yardstick is shaped like a rhombicosidodecahedron [check that up, will ya].
You’re all over the place. So you’re good with Arsenal in 9th place in Dec so long as we do it with pizzaz?

Marko

Maybe it’s not about them doing better or worse, but differently. Perhaps those two may have offered us a vision towards the future that we haven’t quite seen with Emery. Ah different. Emery is different to Arsene but we wanted you know different. Haven’t quite seen is right you gave him about 5 mins and others are giving him 6 months. Again nobody can point to Arteta having a vision and Nagelsmann who I like there’s no guarantee that he wouldn’t be struggling or worse in the same situation as Emery. Basically I have a feeling if it was left… Read more »

loyika

@ Marko By the way (In my honest opinion, and I am really trying to be sane here) Thinking back now that Arteta could have been our Manager actually makes me want to see Emery succeed. Like really!! Arteta would have had this team laying in 10th place. (as said, in my opinion) As in seriously why would we have even thought about or considered that as a Club? That kind of appointment could have only worked on a Twin Peaks movie setting. Paddy V would have been a sentimental appointment (Like Henry at Monaco) Not sure if we would… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Dissenter

As I said a few days ago “it’s better to burn out than fade away”.

I’d rather Arsenal go down in flames trying, that tread water for the next few years. Just my opinion.

Guns of Hackney

Marko

Real Madrid fire managers after bad GAMES!

So do some of the most successful European clubs in history. 6 months is longer than a lot of managers get.

Why wait and see the house burn down? Call the fire brigade.

gambon

Marko It’s not about “giving people 6 months” It’s about process, progress and improvement….3 of Emerys favourite words that he isn’t delivering. Fulham made a managerial change, brought Ranieri in, and have immediately improved their underlying performance statistics. Emery has delivered nothing. 6 months, 70m spent, star players that weren’t at the WC and we are shooting less, facing more shots. No improvement. There’s no over arching process at all. Despite what Emery sayss. He can’t get a lead at HT. He constantly has to change the team at HT, he wants 4-2-3-1, then he wants 3-4-2-1, then back to… Read more »

steve

Bellerin is shit.

Marko

Nagelsmann is managing a pub team on a Championship wage bill…

Is this the vision you hope he would bring to Arsenal? Or is it more specific. What exactly do you like that he does over Emery?

Guns of Hackney

Le Grove would go bust if Arsenal were doing really well.

This place thrives on conflict.

Dissenter

Guns “As I said a few days ago “it’s better to burn out than fade away”. I’d rather Arsenal go down in flames trying, that tread water for the next few years. Just my opinion.” I’m glad you are no where involved with managing the club. “Fading out” is a lot better because you can still arrest a decline and do something about it. That’s why Emery has a two year contract. Giving Arteta the deal would have been putting all the eggs in one basket. That would have been a real burn-out. We would really have gone down in… Read more »

Batistuta

Upstate

From the other page, can’t believe you really mentioned Allardyce would be doing a better Job than Emery at the moment but as i said some days back, that’s probably going to be our level in the next few years if significant funds are not made available for the manager no matter who he is. Arsenal can’t keep pleading poverty while the fans pay the highest ticket prices and a multi billionaire in charge. The earlier we do away with the self sustainable model, the better for all of us

gambon

Oh…and let’s remember what we were told when Emery joined…

– players would improve
– pressing
– defensive balance
– results against top teams

No players have improved. Exactly the same shit we saw last year.

Pressing has been massively disappointing. 1 game against Spurs and 45 mins against Liverpool at home.

No defensive balance at all.

Just as bad in the big games.

Now if Emery was at all capable of what we all want would we not have seen some level of improvement here?

Bamford10

“Is there any manager that is gettable that has ucl pedigree and a knack for developing academy graduates? That’s the manager we need.”

Jardim? I’m sure others can think of others.

Dissenter

Guns
“So do some of the most successful European clubs in history. 6 months is longer than a lot of managers get.”
You realize that we are still paying Wenger off…from a limited budget
Add to that the pay-off for Emery [and his staff], then repeat every six months…all the while you’re working out of a limited budget.

Then remind yourself that any new manager still has to work in a restrictive environment with limited funds and a sub-par squad.
That’s what I will call “going down in flames”

Thomas

£500m rebuilding job plus a proper manager.

Batistuta

Gambon

Did you in all seriousness think Emery would have achieved all of that in 6 months? Common man you can’t be this reactionary.

Are we better? Slightly but you can see it’s going to take time especially without significant investment but to claim to want significant changes within such a short period is nuts

Marko

Fulham made a managerial change, brought Ranieri in, and have immediately improved their underlying performance statistics. I’m sure if we were down near the bottom he’d justifiably be sacked and your comparison would make sense. But I know a losing battle when I see one so gambon we sack him tomorrow morning what do we do then realistically? Hire who? And if the same defence with the same players is still not good enough what do we do? Sack another manager inside 6 months? Basically what do you want them to do? By the way Fulham sacked their manager after… Read more »

Thomas

We’re actually worse defensively than last season. That is some achievement.

Guns of Hackney

Dissenter

…sorry I was going down in flames over here.

After Arsene, I think 99% of fans were excited and looking forward to something new and exciting. I don’t think it mattered what that ‘exciting’ was, but it was important for the club to move on and upwards. It just hasn’t happened mate.

As Gambon et all said… not even a 1% improvement over six months. That’s really poor. No money or not, I think we should at least see something we could get our teeth into.

Redtruth

Poor judgment on the boards part to hire someone who resembles as close as possible to a Wenger Mark II.

Guns of Hackney

* money or not.

I used a double neg.

Dissenter

Floyd Mayweather has proven himself to be a genius
9 million in 2 minutes after an all expenses paid vacation to Tokyo.

Guns of Hackney

Emery out. Mayweather in.

Receding Hairline

Marko you need to read up on Hoffenheim I have been told. He met them in the bundesliga and finished in the Europa league places then Europa league, forget the fact they didn’t make much of an impact in Europe. Man is a miracle worker hence the model club Leipzig want him. He chooses to ignore what Emery did at Almeira, how he took a lowly club to La Liga and finished 8th his first season there, before moving to a troubled Valencia for more miracles but now he is old and has tanked at PSG with Neymar I’m told,… Read more »

Batistuta

Thomas

Maybe that’s a good thing, maybe now we know the extent to which our defensive line has been left without any proper investment in almost a decade, I’d have been more disturbed if we were improving at the back with the pile of shit we have as defenders

Thomas

The club had three chances to get either Klopp or Guardiola but they bottled it. Then had the chance to get Allegri but once again bottled it and wouldn’t give him the funds.

Disgraceful

gambon

Batistuta

Do I think any managers can get us conceding less than 53 goals per season?

Yes I really do.

In fact Palace, Leicester, West Ham, Watford, Brighton are all conceding less than us.

There are 12 teams in the PL allowing less shots than Arsenal.

That’s not a funds issue…that’s a coaching issue.

Dissenter

Guns of Hackney
“As Gambon et all said… not even a 1% improvement over six months.”

That statement is one for the ages.
Like I said, you lot are like rampaging vikings who just want to raze down everything .
One manger every six months will keep you lot excited, lots of pizzaz in that approach.

Guns of Hackney

Ha ha…remember when Pep publicly said he’d like the Arsenal job? Then we signed Arsene for another three and Pep went to city.

Arsenal are the Pete Best of the football world.

Dissenter

* one manager every six months

englandsbest

Pedro angry? Nothing new in that. Nothing new in me angry either. Arsenal supporters have every reason to be angry – extremely angry. Competing for major titles, and often winning them, should be the default position for a Club of Arsenal’s stature, history, fanbase, and revenue. Instead of which we are looking at yet another barren season. Did I expect any better? No. It was clear from Day One of the season that the Arsenal squad was disjointed, deficient, and demoralised. If anything, Emery has done better than expected. For me there were five Clubs with notably better squads, sixth… Read more »

Marko

players would improve – pressing – defensive balance – results against top teams The results against top teams bit is a bit unfair considering our first two games were City and Chelsea away. As for the rest players would improve you yourself have said he inherited a piss poor squad and acknowledged that some players are just poor and can’t improve. Hard to press when you yourself have admitted that we have defenders who aren’t fast enough and strong enough and we have some slow and cumbersome players in key defensive areas. Basically these points that you’re making now you’ve… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Dissenter

And special sauce.

Keep the club fresh. 12 month max deals, six month reviews. Performance targets and reviews.

I’d even have public sackings on the pitch.

Thomas

Let’s be honest here. Emery is a lite version of Wenger.

Marko

As Gambon et all said… not even a 1% improvement over six months.

How people can say this… after an improvement on our away record and a 21 match unbeaten run

gambon

Marko

Coaching will only get you so far..

..However the fact that Emery is incapable of improving on a team that was basically finished last year is mental.

The dressing room was lost…and still we see no improvement.

That is some feat.

Both our xG and xGA are actually worse than last season, so in terms of underlying performance Emery is under performing a almost dressing room with a tired old man in charge.

I don’t even understand how that’s possible.

Terraloon

I see that Chelsea have published their accounts to year end 31/5 and after tax are posting a profit of around £62 million. Meanwhile at Arsenal for the first time in many a year Arsenal’s accounts, as a consequence of Kroenke hovering up the shares , will be published after Chelsea’s. AST are predicting that when the clubs accounts eventually do get published they will record a loss of around £60 million and have suggested that in 2018/19 the manager would have around £40 million to spend It’s abundantly clear that CL qualification is a must for without the income… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Emery as a lite version of Wenger is no insult as long as u dont specify which Wenger

Redtruth

Bould, Adams and Keown were all as cumbersome as fuck yet it didn’t stop them defending the goal..

Marko

He is a boy wonder. Loads of special sauce. That side is dross. He gets the most out of them.

So Nagelsmann it is then. He’s got the vision (though you can’t say what it is) and he certainly wouldn’t have lost to Liverpool in the same scenario that Emery was in. So let’s make it happen then. But it’s only fair that he’s judged after 6 months though. Anything less than a 60% win rate and anything more than 5 defeats and he’s got to go…

Dissenter

Terraloon,
Which is why we should be pursuing the best young talent before they get their break-out moments.
We shouldn’t be buying 30 ear old Argentine midfielders to cover for 30 year old German-Turk or Armenian midfielders.

Marko

His Hoffenheim record is 40% win rate… he’ll need a bump in that

Guns of Hackney

Marko

That unbeaten run was built on quicksand. We were lucky in 80% of those games. We could have easily lost half of them.

%1.

Receding Hairline

Boy wonder is 7th, the team he is supposed to take to the next level Leipzig are 6 points ahead

Marko

Bould, Adams and Keown were all as cumbersome as fuck yet it didn’t stop them defending the goal..

True. They might struggle with a faster premier league and playing a highline though. Probably not they weren’t as error prone as some of our lads

Paulinho

“Arsenal midfielder Aaron Ramsey will hold talks with five of Europe’s leading clubs in January ahead of leaving the Gunners when his contract expires next summer.”

Ornstein must have forgotten to add West Ham and Everton at the end…….

Guns of Hackney

The famous five were not the best individuals but as a unit, probably one of the best of all time. And that includes anything the Italians could produce.

George Graham was a brilliant coach.

Receding Hairline

Over the course of Emery’s career minus PSG, he has a better win ratio than Pochettino and trophies to show for it. Minus PSG I stress

Guns of Hackney

If I played one game and won it, I’d have a 100% win ratio.

This stat is misleading.

Marko

However the fact that Emery is incapable of improving on a team that was basically finished last year is mental. You said it yourself basically finished. You commented so much over the years about how poor the squad is and how shit this player is and that player is and now it’s how come the manager isn’t getting more from them? Which is it the squad not being good enough or the manager not getting enough from a good squad? Besides you have not offered up any solutions other than protests and sack the manager. Who do you want to… Read more »

Marko

Paulinho will he start for any of them?

azed

“AND, we certainly should have laid to rest the annual spankings to big teams.”

Klopp lost to 5-0 to city and 4-1 to the spuds last season but he has the ‘SAUCE” so a spanking ok for Klopp right Pedro?

NorwegianGooner

Hi Pedro and all, I’ve been reading for a couple of years, but this is my first time posting, so fair warning, this is a long post, just really wanted to say my piece on the (quite unbelievable that we’re having this discussion at this point) Emery in/out debate. While I understand the concern about our current lack of identity and future vision (we really are looking lost at times), it really is too soon to judge whether or not Emery’s vision is going to work, as our situation is rather unique. We changed our entire management structure six months… Read more »

Paulinho

Marko -Juve fans seems pretty up for it from what I’ve read. They are incredibly well coached but have got shite like Khedira and Matuidi in their midfield so think he will cope pretty comfortably. The fans want someone that has legs and can join an increasingly static Ronaldo.

PSG? Nope. The rest he’s got a decent chance.

Receding Hairline

I think the 5-1 scoreline was a bit much for some. Those who seemed to think only Wenger got beaten by such score lines.

Gambon is on a mission, left to him Emery would have been sacked on the spot. Anyone with half a brain knew we were going to go through periods like this over the course of a season. Very soon the term EKB will be coined by some to justify their fury.

gambon

Terraloon

Our next set of accounts will most definitely not show a loss.

A huge profit in fact due to player sales.