Unai Emery dealt with his first major humiliation at Arsenal in a game that was of no surprise to anyone paying attention to what’s been going on over the past few months. We sent out a group with sticks and stones to respond to players with nuclear weapons. There was never a chance. It was an obliteration. The spanking was so hard, there wasn’t even a bloodbath, because we’d been vaporised.
Fans had to have seen that coming, we’ve been getting away with a lot of average over the past 5 months. There was always going to be a correction. The defence has been incredibly porous, but we’ve rode our luck. Our strikers have been outrageously efficient in every game. Our style of play has yet to be defined. This result was always on the cards, but we hoped the slap back to reality wouldn’t be so brutal.
There are two conflicting issues we’re running up against here that could cause challenges as we look to progress from 14 years of squad and backroom neglect.
The coach has to get a free pass is the first.
It’s very difficult to apportion too much blame on the manager. We don’t live in a world where there’s one man who makes all the decisions. There’s now three. No man, woman or child can look at the squad Emery has and say that he’s been given anywhere near the right tools to do a good job at Arsenal. We are woefully short across the board. Our keeper looks fragile, our defence is old, our star midfielder is slow and ponderous, and we have no wide players of note. That is not the work of Emery alone. That’s the remnants of Arsene Wenger and some teething problems with Sven Mislintat.
As a friend pointed out to me. Klopp finished 8th in his first season with Liverpool, the Poch dropped fewer points than Tim Sherwood in his debut with Spurs. You don’t build an elite side in a season unless the owners invest properly, or you get very, very lucky.
The concern I have is what comes after we invest?
As much as I want to believe in the current man in charge, I’m struggling to see what the offering is at the moment. This feels like a transition moment. Like the club is upgrading the gym, injecting some energy, and fixing the basics. We’re 6 months into this project and I can’t see what the plan is. What’s the style? How are we solving the defensive issues? Things have been so rough that we’ve only led once at halftime in half a season. That says the coach doesn’t know how to pick a good starting 11 and he doesn’t know how to fix the defence.
This is the conundrum the club is in. We have made our bed and the only way to give Emery a fair crack is to supply him with a shit tonne of money we know almost certainly isn’t coming.
So we are in a stasis situation. We’re exacerbating our problems by funnelling resource into someone who is unlikely to take us to the next level, which is probably going to put us further back. I don’t think Arsenal can absorb the cost of a transition coach like United have been able to. There’s too little interest from the owner to be able to afford that.
That’s the brutality of elite sport. Bad decision after bad decision puts you further and further out. I’m sure we’ll be in a better place by the end of the season. Things won’t be that bad. However, I don’t think the coach we have in at the minute is better than any of the coaches above us. If you want to find the next level, you have to find someone with new and original ideas. Someone who can extract more out of less. I just don’t think we have that, and unfortunately, it’s going to take us 2 years to come to this exact conclusion, because no exec team is going to own up to a mistake this early on.
So what do we have to look forward to?
Well, the club can certainly make some aggressive moves in January. We need to clear out the players that can’t help us moving forward. Say what you will about Emery, the biggest challenge he’s had to deal with is having his two best players in conflict with his vision. Aaron Ramsey has been deemed not good enough which is the correct decision. He needs to be shipped off. Mesut Ozil is a broken player who hasn’t given a fuck for 3 years, let’s do whatever we can to clear him from the wage bill.
Then we need to sign in better. We need the cream of the 22-year-old’s so we can elevate our play.
We also need to move on the players that are clearly too old or too weak for where we need to go. Mo Elneny shouldn’t be with us if he has no use outside league cup games. Lichtsteiner has been a miserable experiment. You can’t adapt to the Premier League at his age. Koscielny is finished. Love him, but it’s over. Granit Xhaka is never going to hit the level, it doesn’t matter how many passes he sprays around, he’s too slow and prone to bouts of dimness.
The squad needs to be aggressively shaken up, because everyone around us it getting better, and that’s before United find another 100m to spend with a proper manager.
The biggest concern for Emery right now though is to inject some belief into the squad. Those players will switch off from him very quickly if he doesn’t get them firing very quickly. He’s made some bold decisions, but they’re not paying off. He needs to get everyone back on side and he needs to rally those troops fast. We cannot afford to have a Wenger like flop in January and February, there’s too much riding on this season for it to be over now.
Just before I go, the absolute atrocity of the exAKB ghouls who came bounding online yesterday like they’d just won the lottery was truly shameful. If you can’t piece together the direct implication of Wenger in our current mess, you truly have no place commenting on football. Taking joy in a loss because you think your average opinions of Wenger having a rough ride over the past 14 years is the height of shit fandom. And yes, there was a lot of that yesterday. Utterly pathetic.
We are paying the direct consequence of not firing Arsene Wenger 8 years ago when it was clear we were on the slide. We let everything fail, from top to bottom. We let good people rot, we passed on innovation, we didn’t bring in great players and we failed to maintain a grip on an elite mentality. That’ll take any coach longer than 6 months to fix.
Right, that’s me done, see you babes in the comments.
Hasn’t Klopp lost his last 6 consecutive finals?
Gambon, city spent 200 million on there defence alone,
Emery got 70 million to transform the whole team.
Don’t you think your being harsh?
The improvement is we’re winning away from home again, and a few points more than the same games last season.
We still have half the season to go, do you think by May there won’t be any improvement?
Upstate
Can you show me where I said Klopp inherited Suarez?
Emery got Aubermayang and Lacazette and we have no problem scoring goals. What’s your point?
Don’t worry marko
Brains aren’t everything, well in your case they’re nothing but you do try and as we all know, god loves a tryer…
It’s trier Don.
Klopp inherited coutinho who he sold for 150 million
Which bought salah, mane, and vvd with change.
Emery inherited laca and auba if he sold both he would need to replace them, as well as a left back two centrebacks, cdm, acm a left and right winger.
Plus a couple of squad players.
Up 4 grabs
Nobody is asking for us to compete with city financially
What we are asking is for basic defensive coaching fuck me is it that hard to grasp
A 2-0 or a 3-1 could be accepted as a blip but 5-1, with that shambolic excuse for a defensive performance??
Come on. Again. Not asking to compete with city. That would be absurd but I expect the basics to be covered at a top club like arsenal.
azed You said Klopp inherited the team that was a slip away from winning the title. That team had Suarez in it who probably contributed to 50 percent of their performances. He was sold in the summer and they replaced him with Benteke. That is what Klopp got. Emery, on the other hand, inherited a team that scored the most goals in the league bar City. Offense was never a problem. Defense was. It doesn’t take a genius to look at last season table and see what the problem was. Seven months into Emery’s reign and nothing has changed. I… Read more »
Kos
Montreal
Jenkinson
Elnenny
Xhara
Welbeck
Ramsay
Lacs
Mustsfi
Any 5 from that ten gone in January would be a good window for me
No matter how much you try, you can’t change history. Klopp inherited a team that was a Gerald slip away from winning the league while Emery inherited a team that finished 6th in the league with one away win all season. Don’t embarrass yourself. Which year and month did Klopp join Liverpool and what position did they finish the season before Klopp joined? Why was Brendan dismissed mid season if he was a slip away from being crowned champions? What position were Liverpool on epl table when Brendan was dismissed? What position did they finish? Did Klopp improve them or… Read more »
Basic defensive coaching ain’t going to win us the league.
However a massive cash injection will win us the league.
RSPCA
Dear me, is there anyone at Arsenal you don’t dislike??
TR7 Saying Emery hasn’t transformed the club is bullshit. For starters, the “get in their faces” tactics doesn’t work again. 2) Half way through the season, we’ve won more points on the road than all of last season. Pep Guardiola’s style didn’t stop them from losing 4-0 to Everton. If it’s about style we could have kept Wenger. No one saying Emery is perfect, but he met Mustafi, Koscielny, Holding, Chambers, Bellerin, Monreal and Kolasinac as defenders and how many of them do you think would make the squad of the top six let alone start? We have no wingers… Read more »
Red
Well you got no hope of the cash injection so best hope for the other
Basic defensive coaching is a given whereas a huge cash injection will take us to the next level.
Azed
That side that klopp inherited was immediately dismantled because they were substandard in his view
Even he doesn’t back your assertion
Red
I agree but united had oodles of cash spent under 3 managers and have done fuck all but blow up since 2013
It’s no guarantee and if emery can’t get the basics right then he won’t get them right with multi million pound defenders
“azed
Upstate
Can you show me where I said Klopp inherited Suarez?
Emery got Aubermayang and Lacazette and we have no problem scoring goals. What’s your point?”
You said Klopp inherited a team which was a slip away from winning the title…..don’t forget that fast. Well Suarez was the key member of that team and finished the top scorer.
Un na naai
You’re battling a losing battle, my friend. People call guys like us “trolls” on here when in reality it’s guys like azed, Marko, and Up4grabs are the real trolls. Everyone seems to be ignoring the facts, and only picks and chooses what they want to see. Discussions turn into name calling, and that’s when you know it’s over. I’ve been and posted on many blogs like JustArsenal, Arseblog, 7amkickoff, and this is by far the most ridiculous one. What a miserable bunch most of the people are on here.
Guy went on a 21 game unbeaten run culminating crowned by , and we know it, beating a better team in tottenham 4 -2.
He exceeded expectations with that run regardless the opposition.
Then ONE fuck up , which we ALL saw coming then all of sudden the knives come out?
Naaah fuck that.
Kayciey
Conte took a team that finished 10th and won the league, Klopp took a team that was 10th and finished 8th, Roy Hudson took Crystal Palace from 20th to 11th, Emery took a 6th place team and half way true the season has won more away points than all of last season?
PS: wasn’t it you who claimed Emery was sidelined Jenkinson even though Jenkinson has played more for Arsenal this year than the past two seasons?
Un na nai, I’m not saying we should chuck 500 million at the team like city, but a team of arsenal standing with a new manager should be given more than 70 million to start to sort out the carnage that Wenger left behind. Fulham, Leicester, west ham and Everton spent more than us. City bought one player in mahrez for 62 million. 7 teams below us spent in the 50-60million bracket but we had 70 million to do a whole rebuilding job. And yesterday we lost to a top team that may win the league If we lost 1-0,… Read more »
“No one saying Emery is perfect, but he met Mustafi, Koscielny, Holding, Chambers, Bellerin, Monreal and Kolasinac as defenders and how many of them do you think would make the squad of the top six let alone start?”
But the same Emery bought Sokratis and Lichtsteiner to improve on the players you have mentioned above. Are they improvement?
Everyone keeps saying Emery needs £200m or £300m
Klopp took over a 10th place Liverpool and got them to 4th in his first full season with a £0 net spend.
He got them to the CL final with a negative net spend.
It’s only in the last transfer window that he went out and spent big…due to the success he delivered.
Emery is incredibly lucky to be given £70m net in his first season. It’s £70m more than Klopp had.
That side that klopp inherited was immediately dismantled because they were substandard in his view
Un
Klopp spent 70m on a defender Emery got 70M for the summer.
Don’t you think Emery would dismantle this squad if he had 200M to spend?
Upstate
Don’t worry. You’ll soon come down to their level. Every level head poster does eventually and by level headed I mean those who didn’t hiss through their teeth every time wenger was mentioned in. I’ve seen people here actually wish for him to die!!! Sick people.
But the same Emery bought Sokratis and Lichtsteiner to improve on the players you have mentioned above. Are they improvement?
Sokratis is currently our best defender. Tells you all you need to know about the squad Emery inherited.
Upstate,
I’m a troll because I back the manager who has had one transfer window, and only 70 million to spend?
And don’t want him fired.
He’s only been here six months and has lost four league games in twenty, three of which he was expected to lose on our previous five years of form.
I’m pretty sure I haven’t name called anyone on here but had normal sensible discussions with people.
Maybe you want to look a little closer to home?
If you want basics hire Tony Pulis if you want elite stick with Emery.
azed
“we have no wingers” – so perhaps some of that 70mil should have been spent on a proper … ummm… winger? instead of garbage defenders.
Gambon
Klopp has a net spend of £112,850,000.
Klopp bought keeper Karius, defenders Matip and Klavan, hardly great buys.
Sokratis is currently our best defender. Tells you all you need to know about the squad Emery inherited.
This.
Azed No. I don’t think he’d dismantle the squadZ I think he’d invest it in starting 11 players and use what we currently have as back up in many cases But he doesn’t have that. He has what he has and he needs to sort this defence out. The sorts of errors committed yesterday are coachable. I’d love a world class centre half/left back/goalie of course but our owners aren’t fronting the money to buy one so we will have to train our players and drill them and coach them. It works at other clubs who aren’t city or PSG… Read more »
Sokratis is not our best defender
Holding is
Then Monreal, koscielney, Bellerin and chambers.
Talk about agenda
Red
Elite?? Haha. Yeah. Looked like it yesterday
Upstate
Sokratis was 18M. Point out one decent winger less than 30M.
While at it, remember Wenger spent 35M on Mustafi and 35M Xhaka while Emery spent 18M on Sokratis and 22M on Torreira.
Now tell me the better value for money.
Up4grabs
Didn’t mean you specifically about name calling, my apologies. Meant the blog in general. And for Pedro to allow it is beyond ridiculous. Then again, what else to expect from someone who almost daily swears in his own posts.
Conte took a team that finished 10th and won the league, Klopp took a team that was 10th and finished 8th, Roy Hudson took Crystal Palace from 20th to 11th, Emery took a 6th place team and half way true the season has won more away points than all of last season? PS: wasn’t it you who claimed Emery was sidelined Jenkinson even though Jenkinson has played more for Arsenal this year than the past two seasons? Azed, So now we are on Conte and Chelsea? So I expect Emery to do much better with a team that finished 6th.… Read more »
It works at other clubs who aren’t city or PSG so why can’t it work for us??
Un
Can you tell us the club’s were this stuff works at that are currently above us on the table?
Gambon
Very good point
UN na,
Sokratis is not our best defender Holding is
Then Monreal, koscielney, Bellerin and chambers.
Holding has played well and improved on last season but is out injured. So currently isn’t our best defender.
Koz has played 3 games I think so has Monreal.
Bellerin is also out injured and has improved greatly from last season and looks great going forward, but he Isn’t our best defender.
And chambers is on loan and keeps getting dropped for Fulham.
That’s a fact, sokratis has been our best defender which isn’t saying much since our defence is piss poor.
No agenda.
azed
Stop it with recruitment talk, you’re terrible at it. If the likes of Fulham and Wolves can attract/afford guys like Serri, Schurrle, Patricio, Moutinho then surely we can do better.
So now we are on Conte and Chelsea? So I expect Emery to do much better with a team that finished 6th.On Jenkinson, he was previously injured. A decent manager would play him than insist with that 50 year old erratic leach. But oh…..we’ve got Emery, a Europa manager. We already have won 7more points in corresponding fixtures last season, we already have more away points than all of last season. That’s improvement. Jenkinson was injured for two years, he was frozen out of the team. Wenger didn’t even play him for two years but you expect Emery to play… Read more »
Emery is incredibly lucky to be given £70m net in his first season. It’s £70m more than Klopp had. Ah yes net spend sure it hardly tells the whole story. Sold players that year worth a total of around 80 million. Sold Sterling the previous year for 50+ million and the following year Coutinho for over 100 million. These things are very important to remember when you factor in Klopp inherited actual sellable assets and then spent very well. Do we have sellable assets like he did? Should we give Emery time like Klopp got? And why bring up his… Read more »
Stop it with recruitment talk, you’re terrible at it. If the likes of Fulham and Wolves can attract/afford guys like Serri, Schurrle, Patricio, Moutinho then surely we can do better.
Upstate are we supposed to be recruiting Serri or Schurrle?
Azed
Yes
Liverpool, chelsea, Tottenham
Add to that Dortmund, juventus, Napoli, Monaco and athletico
All buy smart. All work hard on the training ground. All have an ethos to work towards and a framework.
Upstate,
Fair enough, we are good.
Apart from yesterday I’m quite happy unlike some on the blog.
Emery is gradually pulling us in the right direction. It will take time, and as long as he gets a fair war chest to spend and time to implement his ideas with his own players I’ll back him.
If in a year or 18 months he hasn’t improved the team then it’s time to move him along.
“Sokratis is currently our best defender. Tells you all you need to know about the squad Emery inherited.”
Rob Holding was our best defender before he got injured and actually made Sokratis look good. Sokratis is slow and more of a wrestler and always a booking away with every tackle. He wasn’t even in BVB’s first eleven and will soon be 31 to say the least. How has he improved us?
Up for grabs
No he hasn’t been our best defender, he’s been shite. Bellerin and holding have been and we were talking about the quality of the squad handed to emery. Nearly every defender on our books was or is better than Sokratis no matter the injury status.
The same goes for Lichtsteiner too.
Un
VVD cost 75M, Allison cost 56M
Kepa Cost 70M
Monaco is currently battling relegation.
Juventus one team league.
Atletico won the league 3 years ago, since then they’ve won nothing in a two team league.
Emery is a 6 league team league.
Marko
It was Emery that chose to sell no-one in the summer.
It was Emery that decided to loan rather than sell Chambers.
It was Emery that said he was happy with the squad and just wanted a few additions.
Lazio were interested in Iwobi….but we gave him a new contract
azed
And why not? Serri > Xhaka. Schurrle > Iwobi. Patricio > Leno. We got the Greek wrestler whose team didn’t even want to start him and are flying high right now, and Lichsteiner. Nuff said.
Rob Holding was our best defender before he got injured and actually made Sokratis look good.
Yeah right.
How can Arsenal compete will Liverpool who in less than 3 seasons have spent over £400m gross on transfers.
Marko
Yes
Klopp added Robertson and sane and others while we have added Leno and sokratis bla bla bla bla. We have ozil and Ramsey who were sellable assets in the summer along with Mustafi
Not £150m worth but certainly sellable
We have Lacazette and Aubameyang who are sellable assets and Mkhitaryan and Reid’s Nelson who look to be sellable assets
Iwobi?
AMN??
Bellerin to Barca??
All potential sellable assets.
If Fulham a newly promoted side, can spend 100 million just to stay in the league. Wolves another promoted side can spend 4 million less than us and were expected to try and stay in the league Leicester a team can spend 100 million to improve on was it tenth last year? And Everton 85 million to move up from 8th to try and break into the top four. Yet emery gets 70 million has to virtually recruit a new gk, 2 cbs, 2 wingers, cdm x2 with just 70 million to get us back in the top four. Pep,… Read more »
Azed
Funny how we fall apart when holding is injured….
Literally as soon as he goes so does our unbeaten run.
He was our best defender. By some ways
And why not? Serri > Xhaka. Schurrle > Iwobi.
Upstate
Emery didn’t buy Xhaka or Iwobi that was Wenger. Emery bought Torreira
Serri is so great is at Fulham.
Up 4 grabs
You’re right
It’s a joke
So vent your anger at the club. It a disgrace. Maybe wenger wasn’t so finacially culpable after all
Funny how we fall apart when holding is injured….
Sokratis didn’t play against Southampton
That was Koscielny.
I’m sorry but no amount of excuses can explain why we are allowing the 13th most shots on goal of ANY team in the PL
Azed
Van Dijk was at Celtic then soton before Liverpool
What’s your point
Azed
No but he has been slow and clumsy from the off. Just because he’s dragged a few nobodies to the floor after getting left standing it doesn’t make him Paolo Maldini
To be honest it’s not a surprise that I never see british pundits on TV in other European countries, and no other club in other top leagues are chasing british managers. We have this ability to look at the pitch but see something completely different. We take tunnel vision to new heights. Someone said Emery spent £70m and Arsenal aren’t any better. Okay, good. Did they say this before yesterday? We are no better than we were last season? And that’s based on what, just the words that come out your mouth? Or the all-too-familiar tendency for these modern day… Read more »
Emery is an upgrade on Wenger who in has failed to win a European trophy in the whole of his managerial career while Emery has won THREE.
UN Na, No he hasn’t been our best defender, he’s been shite. Bellerin and holding have been. (Holding has improved a lot and maybe that’s because he played alongside sokratis?) Bellerin has improved and looks great going forward but defensively although better this season isn’t that great. Nearly every defender on our books was or is better than Sokratis no matter the injury status. Really you can judge that on the the three games Monreal and koz have played? & chambers Sat not he bench for 18th placed Fulham? The same goes for Lichtsteiner ( the guy was brought in… Read more »
Up4grabs Respectfully, I disagree. I too thought that we finally turned the corner after beating Spurs but as it turns out that was just a one off, not yesterday’s game. 22 game unbeaten streak didn’t fool me. Vorskla, Qarabag twice? Bunch of pub teams and a whole lot of luck. Soton, BHA, Pool – that was the real Arsenal and I’m sorry to say but I think it’s what we’re going to be seeing from now on if Emery remains in charge. I’m not saying he should be sacked immediately but if you’re Kroenke do you really trust this guy… Read more »
Negation.
Great post.
Negation Take a breath there son…. All that’s great and all but let’s face it, we’ve been hit and miss all season. Very good occasionally but mostly average and doing just enough to get by. Which was ok until the last month when holding got injured and the whole defence has been exposed since I’m not asking for the man to be sacked. I’m asking for him to be backed properly by the club and then if he fails, it’s on him However it’s any fan’s right to be concerned after yesterday’s debacle. It was awful and it reflected extraordinarily… Read more »
azed
You’re right… for once. Emery didn’t buy Xhaka or Iwobi. But… he chose to keep them. And what’s worse, he keeps playing them week in and week out.
Up 4 grabs
I just dont rate him. Same as Leno. They aren’t good enough. We already have better options so why waste the money? That’s my view. But nevertheless they should still be coached and drilled so days like yesterday don’t happen
We are giving goals away all season and now holding has gone it’s got drastically worse.
That’s my view. The only way I’ll change it is if i see a defensive improvement.
Upstate, In this day and age 70 million mate is nothing. We’ve seen if you want a quality centreback, they cost 70million up, and we need two. A replacement for cazorla again is 50 million plus unless we get a rough diamond. We need two wingers 60 million plus each. Left back 30 million and up. That’s six players at around 300 million plus unless we get some real luck in the transfer Windows. And that doesn’t guarantee us titles, that’s just to get us competing again. Emery will maybe get 50 million in January and maybe 80 million again… Read more »
“In this day and age 70 million mate is nothing”
Salah and Mane were £70m
“We need two wingers 60 million plus each”
Salah and Mane were £70m
You’re talking bollocks.
Only 1 CB ever has cost over £70m
I’ll say again….you’re talking bollocks.
It was Emery that chose to sell no-one in the summer. Again are you sure that it’s him doing the buying and selling. Besides your right he should have done more to buy and sell but in a world cup year with a transfer window closing early and new in a job (Klopp had half a season to figure out what was needed) it was understandable a bit. Anyway… not really comparable but sure you might as well. I know when I’m beat I know what happens when you make your mind up on a manager and that’s it. Hopefully… Read more »
Un Na, Coaching is important, they should be drilled your absolutely right. Leno maybe needs a break and cech put back in? But then if he gets dropped that doesn’t do his confidence any good either. I just dont think the club have backed emery Stan thinks it’s ten years ago where 70 million gets you three world class players and there’s only 4 teams competing for champions league spots. Like I said when Fulham Leicester wolves west ham Everton are spending more than you or just below you, and you need to spend big just to get into the… Read more »
What is now abundantly clear is that the club held the purse string all along.
Our club is being run by smug corporate cunts and it has been since DD left
So Pedro was right. We need a coach who can make marginal gains.
Emery won’t get £150m to spend so he he needs to make his pounds stretch and his work on the training ground count
Every arsenal fan has the right to question yesterday’s result and emery has to and will take his share of the blame for it along with the players.
Up4grabs Glad you mentioned Cazorla. One of the reasons Emery was hired is because of his “intimate knowledge of every Arsenal player”. That was widely publicized. And if he knew anything at all, he’d be replacing Santi first. We didn’t need another keeper or another CB, at least not right away. And we certainly didn’t need someone like Lichsteiner or even Guendouzi. Quality replacement for Cazorla and Torreira was all that needed at first. Cech is still a fine keeper. Auba can and should be played on the left wing. There was no need to send Chambers out on loan.… Read more »
Gambon,
We need six players to compete, 70 million won’t buy the calibre of players we need.
It will buy you one not six. That’s not bollocks mate.
Tell me who you would buy for centrebacks & wingers? And how much do you think you could get them for?
Un
I like Papa
I like torriera
Effie n youth to get a chance
Up 4 grabs I’m fine with him getting money to spend. I’m happy to see what he can do with funding. But I’m not ok with the way he doesn’t seem to realise that we are better off with Lacazette at the point of our attack. That’s a big fuck up on his part I also feel that he let two very good players leave on a free this year who’d really help when the injuries kick in. And the failure to get the team drilled properly. Wether he gets the money to spend or the club spends for him… Read more »
Salah and Mane were £70m
Were not now ……Today they are valued at a minimum of £70m EACH
Upstate,
Emery must take some blame for the last few bad results and yesterday’s as well. I’m not saying he shouldn’t.
Just not going along with some fans who want him binned now.
Southampton was a weakened defence that scored three headed goals which in my opinion wouldn’t have happened if sokratis wasn’t banned.
Yesterday was two soft penalties and a lucky deflection into the path of firminiho.
We would still have lost as we were poor defensively.
But sometimes it’s fine lines.
Upstate
Would you rather he play Elneny instead of Xhaka?
Red is in fact right any team trying to sign the likes of Mane or Salah now would cost between 50-70 million at least. Under is being valued at around 40 million Pulisic could go for 50 million. So not only are we playing catch up but we’re doing it at a time where transfer fees are sky high. But who cares right
Upstate, Emery must take some blame for the last few bad results and yesterday’s as well. I’m not saying he shouldn’t. Just not going along with some fans who want him binned now. Southampton was a weakened defence that scored three headed goals which in my opinion wouldn’t have happened if sokratis wasn’t banned. Yesterday was two soft penalties and a lucky deflection into the path of firminiho. We would still have lost as we were poor defensively. But it wouldn’t have been the mauling it looks. sometimes it’s fine lines. If we had beat Chelsea, and not dropped points… Read more »
Marko
Stop babbling dumb dumb and make a point
Up4grabs
Sorry, not buying the “fine lines” stuff. We started with 3 CB’s against Soton, and with Xhaka on top of it. That’s a team battling relegation and we made them look like title contenders. We started with 3 defensive mids against Brighton. Why? He pulled Ozil at halftime and we didn’t have a single shot, never mind on target, in the second half. Yesterday, after scoring first, instead of trying and protect the lead, we go full meltdown and fall behind 5 minutes later! If that’s not on a manager then I don’t know what is.
Reds exactly right,
As soon as players go for high prices that’s the bench mark.
If vvd was 75 million your not getting a player nearly as good or better for 35 million. It’s 55-70 million or more.
If you buy from abroad team’s know you have premier league money so there’s a premium.
I want Licht to be sent packing. Against Brighton, he assisted the opponent for the tying goal. Against the pool, he was the one who hit the ball against a teammate. The ball then bounced to Fermino for the first goal. He is killing our team.
Upstate,
Southampton he had players injured and suspended.
Koz played after having 70 minutes in seven months.
Litchstiener and Xhaka played centrebacks as that’s all he had. It’s not emerys fault Leno went for a wander on the third goal.
I agree with pulling ozil at halftime I though he should have given him 20 minutes in the second half, although he was poor in that first half.
I don’t think you can blame emery for the Liverpool goals they equalised within two minutes and were leading a minute after that.
I just wanted United Stand’s latest video – we have such a bad reputation as Arsenal fans. Everyone outside Emirates can see our ‘jekyll and hyde’ tendencies. 1.) Transfer market isn’t the final authority on football, but Mane’s current valuation is £67.50 million, Salah is worth £135 million. When one person says “In THIS day and..” and then you reply with “Mane and Salah are worth £70 million” when they could NEVER be worth £70 million today, it’s disingenuous. Hey, blame Emery for the loss. He’s not immune. But what are we saying? Arteta wouldn’t have lost to Liverpool? Wenger… Read more »
It’s between Leno and Pickford for worst blunder of the season.
I choose Leno’s near post howler against Liverpool at the Emirates.
In fact, we’ve gifted them all 7 goals this season……
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Xhaka or Elneny? That’s a tough one for me. Xhaka can produce a good corner or free kick or a find a decent pass every once in a while. But I feel like the negatives outweigh the positives in his case. For every good thing he does, he makes at least 2-3 costly mistakes. We’ve dropped too many points lately so yeah, why not try Elneny for a couple of games and see how he fairs. Fulham, and Blackpool are next, perfect opportunity to shake things up and try something new.
Upstate,
As well With the Southampton game they had a new manager come in which lifts the team and our record there at st Mary’s isn’t great. I remember a 0-4 loss a few years back.
Play that game again with sokratis or even holding and we don’t concede those goals.
Negation Do you not think it would have been advisable for our new manager to address our long term weakness ……defence. Yes, we bought 5 defensive minded players and this addressed the concerns in midfield and is probably the one area of the team that has improved. However ,despite the improvement in midfield defensively ,it has made no difference to our stability at the back .. Why do you think Emery has ignored our defensive issues ,do you not think he is culpable not making it his priority. Is it really too much to ask that our new manager doesn’t… Read more »
Pulisic has joined chelsea apparently
Up4grabs
I think you’re reaching a bit with this whole new manager thing. Arsenal vs Soton. I wonder what the odds were for the game. Three headers. Not one, not two, THREE! You what they say, fool me once, shame on you. Full me twice, shame on me. But three?! That’s on Emery. He should have changed formation/personnel right away. It was clear that Koz and Xhaka weren’t up for it. He didn’t, and it cost us points.
UN na,
I think he goes in the summer as hazard replacement.
Xhaka or Elneny? That’s a tough one for me. Xhaka can produce a good corner or free kick or a find a decent pass every once in a while. But I feel like the negatives outweigh the positives in his case. Elneny has no real upside when compared to Xhaka. Like Up for G has said above, nobody is saying Emery is the Savior or that the team can’t do better, we are saying let see what the club buys in January and September before we will crucify Emery. Our Center/Defensive Midfielders are Torriera, Guendozi, Xhaka and Elneny. You can… Read more »
Upstate,
That’s what I’m saying, that’s the only players he had who could he have changed them for?