Arsenal battered in harsh Liverpool correction

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Unai Emery dealt with his first major humiliation at Arsenal in a game that was of no surprise to anyone paying attention to what’s been going on over the past few months. We sent out a group with sticks and stones to respond to players with nuclear weapons. There was never a chance. It was an obliteration. The spanking was so hard, there wasn’t even a bloodbath, because we’d been vaporised.

Fans had to have seen that coming, we’ve been getting away with a lot of average over the past 5 months. There was always going to be a correction. The defence has been incredibly porous, but we’ve rode our luck. Our strikers have been outrageously efficient in every game. Our style of play has yet to be defined. This result was always on the cards, but we hoped the slap back to reality wouldn’t be so brutal.

There are two conflicting issues we’re running up against here that could cause challenges as we look to progress from 14 years of squad and backroom neglect.

The coach has to get a free pass is the first.

It’s very difficult to apportion too much blame on the manager. We don’t live in a world where there’s one man who makes all the decisions. There’s now three. No man, woman or child can look at the squad Emery has and say that he’s been given anywhere near the right tools to do a good job at Arsenal. We are woefully short across the board. Our keeper looks fragile, our defence is old, our star midfielder is slow and ponderous, and we have no wide players of note. That is not the work of Emery alone. That’s the remnants of Arsene Wenger and some teething problems with Sven Mislintat.

As a friend pointed out to me. Klopp finished 8th in his first season with Liverpool, the Poch dropped fewer points than Tim Sherwood in his debut with Spurs. You don’t build an elite side in a season unless the owners invest properly, or you get very, very lucky.

The concern I have is what comes after we invest?

As much as I want to believe in the current man in charge, I’m struggling to see what the offering is at the moment. This feels like a transition moment. Like the club is upgrading the gym, injecting some energy, and fixing the basics. We’re 6 months into this project and I can’t see what the plan is. What’s the style? How are we solving the defensive issues? Things have been so rough that we’ve only led once at halftime in half a season. That says the coach doesn’t know how to pick a good starting 11 and he doesn’t know how to fix the defence.

This is the conundrum the club is in. We have made our bed and the only way to give Emery a fair crack is to supply him with a shit tonne of money we know almost certainly isn’t coming.

So we are in a stasis situation. We’re exacerbating our problems by funnelling resource into someone who is unlikely to take us to the next level, which is probably going to put us further back. I don’t think Arsenal can absorb the cost of a transition coach like United have been able to. There’s too little interest from the owner to be able to afford that.

That’s the brutality of elite sport. Bad decision after bad decision puts you further and further out. I’m sure we’ll be in a better place by the end of the season. Things won’t be that bad. However, I don’t think the coach we have in at the minute is better than any of the coaches above us. If you want to find the next level, you have to find someone with new and original ideas. Someone who can extract more out of less. I just don’t think we have that, and unfortunately, it’s going to take us 2 years to come to this exact conclusion, because no exec team is going to own up to a mistake this early on.

So what do we have to look forward to?

Well, the club can certainly make some aggressive moves in January. We need to clear out the players that can’t help us moving forward. Say what you will about Emery, the biggest challenge he’s had to deal with is having his two best players in conflict with his vision. Aaron Ramsey has been deemed not good enough which is the correct decision. He needs to be shipped off. Mesut Ozil is a broken player who hasn’t given a fuck for 3 years, let’s do whatever we can to clear him from the wage bill.

Then we need to sign in better. We need the cream of the 22-year-old’s so we can elevate our play.

We also need to move on the players that are clearly too old or too weak for where we need to go. Mo Elneny shouldn’t be with us if he has no use outside league cup games. Lichtsteiner has been a miserable experiment. You can’t adapt to the Premier League at his age. Koscielny is finished. Love him, but it’s over. Granit Xhaka is never going to hit the level, it doesn’t matter how many passes he sprays around, he’s too slow and prone to bouts of dimness.

The squad needs to be aggressively shaken up, because everyone around us it getting better, and that’s before United find another 100m to spend with a proper manager.

The biggest concern for Emery right now though is to inject some belief into the squad. Those players will switch off from him very quickly if he doesn’t get them firing very quickly. He’s made some bold decisions, but they’re not paying off. He needs to get everyone back on side and he needs to rally those troops fast. We cannot afford to have a Wenger like flop in January and February, there’s too much riding on this season for it to be over now.

Just before I go, the absolute atrocity of the exAKB ghouls who came bounding online yesterday like they’d just won the lottery was truly shameful. If you can’t piece together the direct implication of Wenger in our current mess, you truly have no place commenting on football. Taking joy in a loss because you think your average opinions of Wenger having a rough ride over the past 14 years is the height of shit fandom. And yes, there was a lot of that yesterday. Utterly pathetic.

We are paying the direct consequence of not firing Arsene Wenger 8 years ago when it was clear we were on the slide. We let everything fail, from top to bottom. We let good people rot, we passed on innovation, we didn’t bring in great players and we failed to maintain a grip on an elite mentality. That’ll take any coach longer than 6 months to fix.

Right, that’s me done, see you babes in the comments.

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Un na naai

Ishola Yes and we could have sold Ramsey Ozil and Mustafi and brought in Maguire for that money alone Don’t you think that might have been worth it? So we have no Sokratis and no Leno but we have an accomplished and commanding center half We have no Ozil or Ramsey but theuve played very little part so far anyway Give Wilshere and santi one year extensions and Seien the remaining £40m that we’d saved wherever you’d like. Surely that would have given emery a better defensive foundation to work with Even as it is. Why spend the money on… Read more »

Frankie Coffeecakes

“We couldn’t defend a sweet placed on a high shelf from a dwarf.”

That would be interesting to watch. 😉

Frankie Coffeecakes

“Yes and we could have sold Ramsey Ozil and Mustafi and brought in Maguire for that money alone”

And who was knocking on the doir making offers on any if them, let alone all of them, Un Na? Come on, now you are not even delving into reality.

Dissenter

Lichtsteiner is so far gone and is way too confrontational for my liking. He’s quick to point the finger at his team mates for his own errors. Koscielny was on a precipitous decline before his injury, now he’s just a junker. Sokratis isn’t going to get better because of his age. His aggression was needed at the back but he seems to have an enduring red mist all the time. Mustafi is still Mustafi, I’m not sure he can get any better. We need better personnel in the back. Maybe Emery needs dip into the academy. Emery hasn’t show the… Read more »

Marc

Well if we could have sold Ramsey and Ozil last summer then there’s no reason we can’t sell them now is there?

Pierre

Marc ‘s idea of tactics and analysis is to tell Torriera to go and have a holiday .

I’m looking forward to hearing some more words of wisdom from someone who professes that holding a season ticket makes him more knowledgeable regarding The Arsenal…

” lie on a beach somewhere “. …classic

Kayciey

Someone even wants Lampard as manager, probably off the back of his side scoring two goals to win in the final minutes yesterday. Absolutely laughable.

That someone rated Lampard higher than what we currently have……..he never said bring him on. Emery is a Europa coach though who will not take Arsenal to the next level.

Thomas

Emery didn’t win a single away game in his last season with Sevilla.

Managed not to win the league with PSG in 16/17

Managed to fuck up a 4-0 first leg win over Barca.

The writings were on the wall

Dissenter

Un na
‘Give Wilshere and santi one year extensions and Santi the remaining £40m that we’d saved wherever you’d like.’
What is it with you and crocked players?
Wishere is still gracing the physio bed at West ham and Santiago was perpetually crocked until he left.

Ishola70

When was the last great value for money signing from Bundesliga to EPL?

Sure there was one but in the recent past? Can’t recall atm,

This should be of interest to fans because with Misinlat this is where the club will raid many times and within a certain transfer fee say not above 25-30m

Frankie Coffeecakes

And this is why Misinlat was brought in Ishola, he’s prudent with little spending money, exactly what Heir Kroenke wants.

Bamford10

Emery got his selection and formation wrong yesterday — Lichtsteiner and Koscielny should not have been in the side and he should have gone 4-4-2 — but it is a bit soon to be writing him off entirely. We are where were are primarily on account of an inadequate squad and injuries.

He has his work cut out for him, though. He will need a player or two in January and he must stop relying on players who are clearly past it.

Dolomite

Still the same old same old AKB/non AKB battle….. However: Anyone saying that Emery should have fixed up the defence by now regardless of the personnel is being disingenous at best or a downright hypocrite. Lets take a detailed look: Sead Kolasinac – wing back more suited to going forward than being a solid and dependable left back, positionally poor when defending Wenger signing. Nacho Monreal- decent left back but ageing with a distinct lack of recovery pace v speedy attackers/wingers, Wenger signing Shkodran Mustafi – front foot Centre Back, prone to consistent gaffes and errors of judgement, positionally unaware… Read more »

gbade_a

Bla bla bla

No Ozil or Wenger to blame, but you couldn’t call out the manager for questionable selections in the past 4 games, benching Lacazette in a crucial game against Liverpool. It is clear you have an agenda.

Same Ozil didn’t play but somehow you found a way to apportion blame to him. Your blog has gone from WOB central to Le-coons.

Ishola70

Frankie Coffeecakes
“And this is why Misinlat was brought in Ishola, he’s prudent with little spending money, exactly what Heir Kroenke wants.”

Yep you got it.

We have yet to see him acquire a gem at these value for money Arsenal transfer fee prices.

Maybe he is keeping his powder dry for the summer. Or god forbid has a surprise in January. Maybe not on the last thought.

McDonald

Imagine someone saying give wilshere a contract, the same player that is in the hospital right now. Some people are just dumb

Champagne charlie

“You and i see very different things then, Charlie. In my estimation this team has far and away exceeded expectations. There is a ways to go but i see a marked difference and improvement in the players attitudes and in some, you can see purpose in what they do“ No, I’ve previously noted change in mentality and togetherness. I just happen to think there should be a noticeable change in what happens on the football pitch after 6 months. I’m not asking for a title run, I’m asking that we see glimpses of the future littered amongst the inevitable mistakes… Read more »

Ishola70

A very succinct and accurate description of the defensive players at Arsenal there by dolomite.

gbade_a

Let’s not even get started on using Leichsteiner who has been an absolute liability against the likes of even Brighton, repeatedly. Just like fooking Wenger. Emery isn’t the only manager winging it, he was applauded with the 22 unbeaten run, he can as well be criticized if he gets decisions wrong.

Un na naai

Dolomite

Lovely appraisal there but answer this

Are these defenders capable of stopping 5 goal routes?
If teams lower in the league with less quality, less money and lesser coaching staff can then why can’t these lot?? All internationals who’ve played at top clubs throughout their careers.

Receding Hairline

Yesterday was embarrassing.. Worse teams have managed to defend better at Anfield. Emery took full responsibility for yesterday’s result, you can’t just shrug off a 5-1 pasting.

Having said that, some of the comments on here today tops yesterday’s performance in the embarrassment stakes.

Still on holiday so I’m out.

Un na naai

Coffee cakes

Ramsey
Untied and Chelsea were sniffing around as were Barca, Bayern and juve

Ozil

Chinese clubs were in for him. Even if we took £10-£15m for him we’d have freed our wage bill up massively

Mustafi

Inter Milan wanted him in the summer

Nelson

I have read so many posts here laying blames on the players inherited from the old managers. Or a new manager can’t do much in 6 months time. I find all those talks are a waste of time. I rather want to see suggestions how to improve the team with the current players also including replacing some players under a realistic budget. Obviously, our major problem is our defense. Again I don’t want to find out why so many of our defenders are injured. Any EPL manager can see how to take advantage of our terrible defense. Wherever you intercept… Read more »

Un na naai

You have to look across the league and see that team with less resources are managing their defensive strategies
better in these games.

There is no excuse for a club who’d just spent £70m on defensive recruits to ship 5 humiliating goals like that. None. It wasn’t acceptable under Wenger and it’s not now.

Marc

Pierre

Firstly I’ve never stated that holding a season ticket means you know more about football than someone else. I’ve stated that fans who go matter to the club whilst some prick on a blog is irrelevant.

Secondly we’ve got a couple of easier games over the next week do you not think giving Torreira a rest is a good idea. Why not let him grab a bit of sunshine and recharge? Of course we could do a Wenger and run him into the ground until he gets injured and misses 4 months.

Un na naai

You think Steve bould and lee Dixon and Nigel winterburn were word class?? They couldn’t get near the England team but they were coach to be better than the sum of their parts. As a unit.

This lot are all internationals but they Still need to be coached and organized

Marko

Seems all it takes is one heavy (expected) defeat away to the best team in the country and the knives are out and the hidden agenda’s of some are laid bare. I’m not interested in getting into a tit for tat all day with some cunt who’s secretly enjoying this for some reason but what I will simply ask is what did you expect? Honestly what did you expect to happen yesterday? We have a poor squad and a mounting injury list on top of that and we went up against the most in form team in the country. It… Read more »

Dolomite

Nice one Ishola70 The problem with our defence is that its a mash up of unsuited types that would struggle to perform as a UNIT under a defensive minded manager like Mourinho, talk less of an attack minded one like Emery. Defenders are meant to have complimentary styles not contradictory ones If youre going to play defensively weak full backs then your centre backs have to be commanding, shape maintaining, body-on-the-line, shot blocking defenders. not porous front footers like Mustafi/Koscielny/Chambers The introduction of a Van Dyke or Koulibaly would upgrade our defence by 50% All you’d essentially coach into them… Read more »

Marc

Can I point out to a few on here that Emery doesn’t sign the players. He will have some input into who we sign but he won’t be the only decision maker.

Case in point Pierre yesterday talking about Emery with drawing the Ramsey contract offer. That wasn’t Emery it was Sanllehi.

Un na naai

Dissenter

And now santi is back playing like a demon
Yes jack got injured but who’s to say if we played him once a week or every ten days he couldn’t stay fit with us like last year
Would have been better than what we have now.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/11/02/santi-cazorla-scores-wonder-goal-villarreal-continue-stirring/amp/

azed

Look at Emery’s treatment of Lacazette, Ozil, Jenkinson and to some extent Elneny.

Jenkinson has played more this season than the last two years combined. You have know clue of what you are talking about.

Dolomite

For the poster who suggested that Palace havent conceeded more than 1 goal against Chelsea, teams like Palace sacrifice a lot more in their creativity and posession in order to be able to maintain their defensive solidity. Plus their defensive units are mostly 80% defensive and occassionally 20% offensive/attacking hardly offering any width or support to their front attackers hence why they also score fewer goals

Marko

Yes very true. Gambon doesn’t trust Emery with another penny because he wasted 70 million on defensive players but he didn’t really

Pierre

Marc
You being a season ticket means nothing ….I will still look forward to reading your analysis of future games …..hopefully it will be something more insightful that send Torriera on holiday.

Guns of Hackney

Fat Sam.
Lampard.
Jamie, not Harry Redknapp.
Arsene.
Jose.
Big Ron Racist.
Peter Reid.

I’m convinced this rogues gallery would have us tighter at the back than Emery.

Alone + Easy Target

How many hours left until the window starts? Just interested how the owner and the club will handle this.

Marc

Pierre

My analysis at the moment is that Torreira looks as if his level has dropped over the last couple of weeks so my suggestion is to give him a break.

If you want to debate that fine – if you can show that he’s covering more distance and it’s not fatigue great I’m happy to be corrected. You however can only look at anything Arsenal through your agenda of “I want Wenger back” so you’d probably be happy to see him out injured.

T

Kozz and per were a pretty good partnership back in the day I cant see mustafi, holding or chambers ever playing at that level. Socratis and kozielny are still the 2 best defenders around and that isnt really a good thing 😀 Bellerin and monreal are both capable full backs but i have to say that lichsteiner has been a huge dissappointment. I know the club needed to find somebody cheep as a one year stop gap but my god… Kolasinac is another odd signing. Going forward he has allways been great but i just cant see him as arsenal… Read more »

gonsterous

reading the comments, a lot of the fans have hit the panic button. The objective for the season is top 4, mind I remind you, not win the title. So I think we have enough time to turn this over. Now the main questions are, will emery learn from his mistakes this season ? and will arsenal strengthen in the January transfer window. Emery has made a couple of mistakes so far, and as long as he learns from it, I’m more than happy to let it slide. But if we see the same problems next season, I’ll bring out… Read more »

G8

Emery may or may not be the right man It’s too early to judge considering the circumstances 1- a decade of squad neglect from previous regime including recruitment, fitness and attitude 2- current injury crisis ..from welbz to bellend they all affected the managers tactics and selection especially the defence. 3- new manager in a new league with already weak squad is always going to be a struggle. 4- Steve bould..is he the defensive coach? what is his job if he is not. I am sure there are enough reasons of why we should give him a fair chance to… Read more »

Un na naai

Dolomite For the poster who suggested that Palace havent conceeded more than 1 goal against Chelsea, teams like Palace sacrifice a lot more in their creativity and posession in order to be able to maintain their defensive solidity. Plus their defensive units are mostly 80% defensive and occassionally 20% offensive/attacking hardly offering any width or support to their front attackers hence why they also score fewer goals Yeaaaah that’s great. So why couldn’t we have done that at 1-0 up? Or even 3-1 down?? Big difference is that we can afford and do possess game changers Palace don’t. Aubameyang and… Read more »

London gunner

Gambon

“Emery focused entirely on the defence, brought in 5 players, spent £70m and made it worse.”

Just no. EMERY DOESN’T bring in players. He. Doesn’t even choose them. The poor choices made over the summer had nothing to do with him.

Bamford10

Prior to the rash of injuries, no one was claiming we had seen “zero improvement”. In fact, if memory serves me correctly, some of the people who are now saying “no improvement” were saying that Emery had already demonstrated he was the right man for the job. I agree that we’re not as defensively solid at this point as we might have expected, and I agree that there are signs that Emery is weak in this or that area, but some people are massively overreacting. If Emery wasn’t relying on this or that substandard player, we wouldn’t be discussing any… Read more »

Kayciey

I first heard the Torrerria rest/holiday thing with DT of AFTV. I also heard several things am reading here from there. Wenger is gone and Emery has been here since May. Had a full preseason with the team when all others were in the world cup. Our defence is the poorest bar Fulham. Liverpool struggled to beat Huddersfield 0 – 1, but humiliated Arsenal 5 – 1. Are Huddersfield defenders better than Arsenal’s? If not, who is to blame if not the manager?

Like Pedro and Gambon has put it, Emery is taking us nowhere. We will regress further.

Micheal

Good post, Pedro. Considered. I think it is important to step back from the debacle of yesterday and consider the big picture of where AFC stands at the moment. And to consider the likely future. It appears we cannot expect Kroenke to invest real money in AFC. Future transfer spending will be self-financed from inner resources which means no mega transfer splurges of £200m a season the squad clearly needs. Of course, Kroenke might perform a complete U-turn on his soccer ball franchise, but no one in full control of their faculties believes this will happen. This means that over… Read more »

Bamford10

London Yes and no. He identifies needs and then he has veto power over any names Mislintat or Sanllehi put forward. He puts names forward as well, though this isn’t his focus. The only real “mistake” we made in terms of the players we signed is Lichtsteiner, and even there you can at least see what they were thinking. He was not the right man for the job, but he’s no Kallstrom or Sanogo. The other signings have been smart for the most part. It is going to take time, and improvement will not be absolutely linear, but the men… Read more »

gambon

London

Its funny because both Guendouzi and Torreira both described how Emery phoned them to explain how much he wasn’t a them.

I’m sure Sven had a gun to his head didn’t he.

Every single one of them signings were ok’d by Emery. He could be vetoed any of them.

Fact is he spent £70m and made our defence worse.

Nonsensical to give him a penny more until we see improvement from his initial work. So far we’ve seen none.

Billp79

don’t forget were going to free up wasted money…on players in retirement mode….the investments needed while large are not really extreme…

there isn’t a player in the defensive half of our formation I wouldn’t consider expendible

gonsterous

2 ways to be a top team. Spend millions like city. champions in may be 2 seasons, if Every thing goes to plan.
second way is to Get smart buys, which we will all agree will take longer. You can’t have both. Get smart buys and win the league in 2 seasons ? No chance. Not even with pep, maybe peak fergie could scare the players to perform.

Guns of Hackney

Anyone care to voice an opinion to a specific moment when Arsenal went wrong? Just for laughs.

1. Wenger went pop after losing the champions league final.
2. The injury to Eduardo.
3. Losing to Birmingham.
4. Clusterfucking the Suarez deal.
5. Dein selling out.

Anyone?

Billp79

Guendouzi and Torreira are good investments…young, mobile and technically gifted in transition…its what’s behind them stupid

Micheal

“Anyone care to voice an opinion to a specific moment when Arsenal went wrong? Just for laughs. ”

Wenger has gone. Get over it. Move on.

Marc

Guns

5 When Dein went but probably not for the reason you’re thinking.

Marko

I dunno I think we obviously made a mistake not addressing the starting 11 more last summer as well as not doing more sales but it’s a little understandable considering the world cup the early shutting of the window and the changes going on at the club. But to realistically only improve the starting 11 to the tune of one potentially two players in Torreira and Leno isn’t enough. Lichtsteiner pointless signing should have signed a new starting RB and to consider Sokratis a player Dortmund were more than willing to let go of being good enough to address a… Read more »

Marko

Fact is he spent £70m and made our defence worse.

I feel like this as a continuous support is a bit unfair. I don’t think you should count the goalkeeper and midfield signings when you factor in how bad our defenders are. Really we only spent about 15-17 million on the defence. And again I’m not sure about the whole saying and vetoing stuff I mean you think Wenger okayed the Mavropanos signing?

Marc

Southampton back in it.

Marc

Just as a thought if City were to go out of the CL say in the Qtr finals and not win the league would Pep’s position be under pressure?

Billp79

we need less than that if you consider; 1. who is available (we won’t be taking over a world class player in the middle of his contract) 2. We have quality young players and a scouting network to make the next year and a half a quality ‘rebuild period’…afterwards a matter of maintaining the quality unlike Wenger being held hostage by players like Ozil/ Ramsey (RVP, Nasri, etc) 3. I look at Lichester, Socrates as stop gap/ short term measures due to our injury issues…in retrospect a big mistake not allowing for growth within the youth system…a waste of cash… Read more »

Marko

No Marc because after Pep who is there left?

Bob

how many shots on target did the arsenal attack against Liverpool? no wingers, no creative midfielder, luck lust attact is going to put pressure on the defence.

Kayciey

City have been found out.

Paulinho

There goes the famous Guardiola philosophy. Tucked in full backs.

Not much good though when it’s Zinchenko receiving the ball in the inside channel though instead of Mendy.

Marko

At the very least we will have to go the Liverpool route to address the CB issue there’s no way around it one of these windows we’ll have to make a significant purchase in that area

Bob

Ramsay,welbeck, gone
ozil, he don’t play
So that’s 3 first team players he needs to replace.

Billp79

V Diyk was a wenger miss

Guns of Hackney

Pep Fraudiola

What a chump.

Billp79

Bob-
what does Mikyterian offer for value?
at least you can see Aubu and Lacaza track back and provide end product

Un na naai

Marko

We had holding, all we needed was a top centre half with chambers Mustafi and Koscielny as back up

Either way it doesn’t matter
The new manager has failed so far to improve us defensively. It’s really that simple. Lesser sides are defending more resolutely with more organization than we are. That’s down to Chichino or lack thereof

azed

Big difference is that we can afford and do possess game changers Palace don’t.

No one in our squad remotely close to Zaha.

Billp79

Monreal, Kos, Sokratis, Leichest – all past sell by date

Bob

auba had 13 touches of the ball, that puts pressure on the defence. desperate for a tricky winger and a creative midfielder to support auba and laca. I’m sorry it won’t happen with iwobi and Ramsay.

Confidentgoner

Why are we porous at the back? Its the quality of our midfield and defenders plus the coaching. Read below; Problem 1! 9 players with no recovery pace. Xhaka, Ramsey, Ozil, Kolasnic, Jenkinson, Iwobi, Monreal, Lacazzete, Lichesteiner Problem no 2! Not “streetwise” in football. Knowing when to do the cynical foul, when to dive, etc are all part of the mordern game. Problem 3 Ball watching during crosses rather than man marking.. Problem 4 Drafting almost everyone to attack without consciousness of the counter attack risks or potential of our opponent. Problem 5 While defending, we give the player with… Read more »

Bob

emery has improved arsenal by 1point from last season.

Paulinho

Problems under Wenger were systemic. We would show up at Anfield in year’s past and go 2 or 3 down before putting pressure on. This time we scored first and it was only daft individual errors that screwed us. Same earlier at Stamford Bridge, that first half would’ve been a write off but this time we scored 2 goals and should’ve scored more. Give him a few transfer windows, improve every department, and then judge the overall collective. We’re always going to give away goals under Emery. It amazes me some people were calling for Emery in the summer, seemingly… Read more »

Billp79

Cech- not a useful backup …Id rather see Martinz
Mustafi- hapless
Xhacka- borderline

Billp79

He’ll have Arsenal in better shape point wise by the end of the year…fcs…we only picked up 1 away point last year…

Billp79

spot on Paulinho

gambon

All the Fraudiola commenters have gone quiet?

Confidentgoner

Our defenders can do better as a unit if peoperly coached. Emery is a coach who needs atheletes across the pitch. He does not have it, so he needs a defensive coach to moderate and adapt his thinking to the personnel we have.

Van Dyke is over hyped. He is good, but if gou close your dtes to how Kkop and his team have got these POOL players defending then you are not a good analyst.

Marc

Bob

Actually we’re 7 points better off than last season in like for like fixtures.

Billp79

Liverpool exploited our wings and took our CB out of position quite easily…
they just hung out in the open spaces we left vacated
amaturish

seniorgooner

Marc you are right Torreria needs to be rested ASAP otherwise he will burn out as happened to manyothers in the Wenger era.
Bamford your comments are reasonable theres just too much hysteria after yesterdays game. But we all need to realise that the 22 game run was overhyped there was tremendous luck in that run and now the luck has changed. I am intersted if anyone can explain how in the next 4 windows we will have the money to aquire top quality replacments it wont come from Kroenke.

Paulinho

Sterling has scored a ridiculous amount of fluky goal in his career.

Paulinho

Fine lines with defence. Liverpool have this great defence yet every time I watch them they get sliced apart.

Billp79

if you are smart you make the other team run…right now we are neither smart or athletic

Arsnil

We have been an absolute fuck up of a club for many years now. What did anybody realistically believe that a new manager in Emery was going to achieve with that set of players. We bought Lichsteiner at 36 of age when he was no good at 26. Would you ever see Liverpool buy such a player? We have two of the richest men in the world as major shareholders. One puts in no money as he has absolutely no say in the club while the other who contorls the club has zero interest and has again invested nothing in… Read more »

Billp79

seniorgooner…you Kroenke’s accountant?

Paulinho

Comedy in that first season when Sagna and Clichy tried the inside full back role.

Guns of Brixton

Pep Fraudiola…

No.

Just. No.

Best one i ever heard was Alan Pardewuiola 😂😂😂😂

Billp79

Azimov can sell his shares the cost of the shares will still be with the club…
I for one would not welcome his input…he merely wants to be in Kroenke’s position but didnt want to pay for it…

Pierre

Marc
“Actually we’re 7 points better off than last season in like for like fixtures”

Slight desperation in that stat ….

Marko

Give him a few transfer windows, improve every department, and then judge the overall collective. We’re always going to give away goals under Emery. Very true. He’s not a defensive manager and to expect HIM to be able to sort out the defence is fanciful. The only way it gets addressed is with competent personnel signed who know what the fuck they’re doing. I mean criticize the coaching all you want but when you have so many players who are capable of serious errors at a moment’s notice the playbook goes out the window. And like I said yesterday this… Read more »

Marc

Pierre

No it’s just factual. You really need to realise that I come after you because you constantly make cuntish comments. When you pick me up on an odd detail (incorrectly) it’s you that looks desperate.

Billp79

did they really just keep Steve Bould on so they’d have a scapegoat?

Paulinho

Marko – Just after we scored the first goal we had good possession high up and it was obvious the idea was to score another, but we stupidly gave the ball away and not long after Liverpool equalised. That’s why signings in midfield and forward areas as as important, Emery will want us to continue to be aggressive and to do that we need some ballers in advanced areas.

Marko

Slight desperation in that stat ….

Chances created… Ozil

Billp79

Pepi Guard-the-doooohla

Marc

Marko

Did I read or hear the other day that Ozil only has 1 assist this season?

Billp79

And some intelligence/ athleticism in defensive positions

Sanogoals

The battle for Wenger out was won eventually but I think a war is coming , a war with an a absent owner who’s only interest is money, Wenger s demise was only sealed when people eventually stopped going , it will take a lot more to win the next war, that’s for sure.