Torreira, the hero we’ve been waiting for

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As expected, Arsenal didn’t have fun when Huddersfield came to town on Saturday for a rare 3 o’clock kickoff. David Wagner’s side were the metaphorical come down are a heavy session of hippie crack, factored in with the natural fatigue that occurs after an intense run of games (physical/mental) and you start to see that those three points were amongst the most important or our mini-marathon run.

The goal took a while to arrive and things really did look desperate towards the end of the game. The moment of magic was sparked from a speculative ball into the box from Matty G, Auba did an excellent job of tracing the flight, bringing the ball down, turning and finding Torreira. Our mini-man mountain pulled off a perfect scissor kick from 6 yards to make the breakthrough. Absolute elation in the stands.

The challenge before the goal was that Huddersfield flex at us in dogged fashion, clearly sensing we’d be tired. Their pressing strategy was obviously Klopp-esque. They didn’t give us a moment to breathe, they shut down passing avenues and they were very, very compact at the back.

That’s not to say we didn’t have chances. Auba and Lacazette spurned extremely good openings within minutes of each other in the first half. Jonas Lössl somehow managed to palm away a Torreira screamer that was destined for the top corner. The rookie referee also conspired with the linesman to disallow a Lacazette tap in because they wrongly assumed he was interring with play, despite play moving into the second phase.

It was also tough going on the players bodies. Firstly, we lost Mustafi to a hamstring injury, which is a real worry. We’re now relying on a 30-year-old Sokratis, 33-year-old Koscielny and the injury-prone 32-year-old Monreal. Unless of course Mavrapanos really is an option for us when he returns shortly. The players were also booted from pillar to post. Again, worth noting that our boys were fizzing back with the challenges. Arsenal really aren’t rattled by bully boy tactics these days, but it still makes for an uncomfortable afternoon.

Emery also leant into his favourite strategy, and made 2 changes at halftime. He brought on Mikhi and Iwobi for the booked Lichtsteiner and Lacazette. I guess the thinking was that we lacked width. The game changed pretty sharply after that. Huddersfield were rattled and struggled to control the game.

That said, it’s clear we’re going to need an upgrade in the wide departments of our side. Iwobi was frustrating to watch, his first touch was heavy and he made some very poor decisions. Marginally less so for Mikhi, but the Armenian just doesn’t seem capable of making the big game impact you’d expect from someone so expensive, with that much experience.

We made more attempts at their goal in the second half, clocking in 9 (up from 5). However, we didn’t really fuss their keeper, only registering 2 shots on target all game. Kind of pitiful when you think about it.

On the face of it, it’s hard not to feel extremely relieved. We kept our unbeaten run going, we’re now at 21. That’s magic. It really is. We showed a huge amount of grit to bring that result home. I don’t mean to keep comparing to seasons past, but that’s the sort of game that often hasn’t gone our way because we’ve either succumbed to the aggression or felt sorry for ourselves and capitulated.

There were positives, Matty G had another very good game along with Torreira. The young Frenchman was our main threat from an attacking perspective, he created 5 chances, had the assist to the assist for the goal and clocked an impressive 16 passes in the final third.

Xhaka also had a very strong game. Sure, he made some wayward passed, but his positioning at the base of midfield really helped snuff out counterattacks and heavy touches from Huddersfield players. He made 10 ball recoveries, 5 tackles and topped the charts for most completed passes (65), most clearances (6) and most headed clearances (4). You can’t knock that sort of impact on a really terrible game.

The big shout out goes to Torreira. He’s had such a huge impact on our team. He’s extremely focused on delivering his defensive duties, but it’s hard not to notice how good he is moving the ball forward. He’s always thinking about the most positive pass, he’s increasingly finding himself in good attacking positions and he created 2 chances of his own yesterday. He’s also our most fouled player. Which represents maybe his size, but if I were to think more sinister in nature, maybe it reflects how important other teams see him to our play. Break the little man, break Arsenal?

The great news for the team is we now have a week off. The home game against Qarabag should be an U23 team (non-senior). The players should be resting up hard all week so they explode out the traps and give Hassenhutl a rude awakening as he looks to reshape the dreadful mess Mark Hughes left the club in.

Not that our run gets much better after that. We have to play Spurs 3 days later in the League Cup, Burnley at home 4 days later, Brighton 4 days later, Liverpool 3 days later, then Fulham 4 days later, followed by Fulham 3 days after that. What a shit show of fixtures!

There was also good news elsewhere, Manchester City succumbed to the smarts of Sarri. That’s made things a little tighter at the top, which is exciting for everyone. 8 points now split 5th and 1st. I mean, we’re not going to win the league, but it’s great to still be realistically in the mix in the month of December.

Right, onwards and upwards!

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Akilan

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TheLegendaryDB10

Damn you Akilan!

Well done mate. Onto the post!

Akilan

Yaaaaaayyyyyy!!!!!!

Leftsidesanch

Just need United to beat Liverpool. Make things even more interesting.

Leftsidesanch

Goodness knows what we’ll do at the back next Sun. Mustafi and Sokratis are suspended I believe.

So, do we put to a back 4 with Bellerin, Kos, Monreal (to cover a cb position) and Kola?

This month hasn’t been kind so far to us in terms of injury, suspensions even if results have been positive so far.

Jamie

Elneny will be one of the CBs next week for sure. Then maybe Pleguezuelo? Not a catastrophe since we’ve already topped the group.

James.wood

Considering the way Huddersfield set up goals where going to be difficult that said a 1-0 was poor and chances keep going missing.
Torriera timing his upfield surges better and was our star man and saviour.
Bellerin also gave a good showing.
Last thing we need is rushing Konch or Monreal back.

vickingz

First eleven

AngeAusArsenal

I wonder if Pierre will b on here today about Torreira getting too far up the pitch?

UTarse

Left,
I’d rather the pool kept their undefeated run till we face them at xmas so we can end it for the miserable wankers.

UTarse

Pedro,
“Xhaka also had a very strong game. ”

You see this is where the stats don’t tell the full story, did you watch the game Pedro ? I was at the game and from where I sat he was close to awful, slow, ponderous, got tangled up in positions that a player in his position should never allow himself to be in. He’s the slowest player I’ve ever seen in an Arsenal shirt…. slower than Mertesacker even !

Emiratesstroller

Pedro There were not a lot of positives in yesterday’s game, which I suspect was a consequence of to many difficult matches in a relatively short period of time. Huddersfield were exceedingly physical and played a “stop start game”. That made it hard to play fluent football against them. There was not clearly shown a very strong cross wind and this required the ball to be played on pitch. That was not always apparent. Overall we did not play particularly well and there was a lack of creativity in the game. Whatever others may think there is something lacking without… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

I really want to believe the stories about us selling Ozil.

That could be why we’re continuing not to play him, not letting him near the field with the intention of selling him.

If Emery can get the CAM that he wants we will look much improved. None of our current lot are good enough they don’t have the work rate off the ball and they don’t have the control and the ability surge with the ball.

Pierre

Confusing really…21 games unbeaten ,the players are being slated from all angles (especially on le grove) but we still keep getting results. I only caught the last 15 minutes of the game but going by the comments on here, Xhaka had a nightmare and must be sold , Mhkitaryan came on and was hopeless and Ozil was a lazy piece of shit ( even though he wasn’t playing), bellerin and iwobi have regressed ( is that a criticism of Emery) and we would have another 4/5 points if Aubamayang didn’t keep missing sitters … Reading a few other reports it… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

No not an Italian site.

What if Inter find out!

Emiratesstroller

Pierre

I don’t know who you listen to but Xhaka was not terrible. Okay he does as we know make periodically some silly errors, but overall he has played quite well
this season.

The combination of Torreira and Xhaka is very important to team. Xhaka’s
passing record is amongst the best in EPL.

Guns of Brixton

Pedro

What have you done.

Pierre

Bacaryisgod
And people believe that shit.

BacaryisGod

Not sure we can buy another central defender with the number of players we already have on our books. To fill 3 CB positions, we will have to make do with a makeshift approach. We’re down to 1 of our starting 3 CBs. This leaves Kozzer, Montreal, Lichtsteiner, Mavrapanos, Kolasinac and even Elneny and Xhaka as emergency options. It looks like our budget will be focused on finding replacements for Ramsey, Welbeck and possibly Ozil in the summer. There may be internal solutions but it will be expecting too much of players like AMN and Nelson to play key roles… Read more »

Pierre

Stroller
I’m sure he wasn’t but reading through le grove comments gives you the impression that xhaka was having a nightmare.

I respect your well balanced views on players and performances.

BacaryisGod

With a tap on his keyboard, Pedro might have just killed our chances of offloading Mesut. Ivan will say ‘I could live with the Hippy Crack but the Fortnite killed the deal’

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

From last posts

Think we should throw in Eddie Bit like a poacher, gets in to good box postitions… Would then put a bit of pressure on the other two… otherwise they got a free run.

Pierre

Stroller
Below are a few of the comments regarding xhaka….

“jasongmsDecember 8, 2018 15:57:25
Sub Xhaka and bring on another attacker…”

“rambo RamseyDecember 8, 2018 15:38:09
Xhaka’s been utterly Wank today.Even worse than usual.”

“Al December 8, 2018 16:04:18
Xhaka was so poor in that half.”

“bamford10December 8, 2018 16:12:16
Xhaka loses the ball in a dangerous spot. They get a good chance from it. Too casual from Xhaka.” I

“MoeDecember 8, 2018 16:14:28
Jesus, Xhaka is poor……..who scouted this guy?”

Pierre

!lichsteiner , kosielny and Monreal will be fine in a back 3 next week …all good experienced defenders …lacking in height but they have enough know-how to get through the Southampton game especially now we have good protection from midfield ….

ddkingz

For all it’s worth…. The saints are going to be test, no that they are good, but how AFC are going to prepare and execute their plans against them….

Saints are poor, but our attack is going to be what will win us that game…..

Not playing ozil will be great…. We need all our players to be hard working and accountable for the team when without the ball and defending since kos will be the only established CB who has been untested since april…

Auba don’t need to miss sitters next week

Rambo Ramsey

So Perrie has flipped the switch and is once again a high and mighty Superfan.

It would be funny if it wasn’t so damn pathetic.

Pierre

Yes Stroller , at long last we have a well balanced midfield who know their jobs and out are also useful with the ball at their feet…..

Bob N16

Pierre,
Having attended the match I would say Xhaka had a decent enough game. He did make one brain fart pass in our penalty area that resulted indirectly into a great chance, otherwise he tackled, intercepted and passed tidily.
As I’m sure you’d agree, people have their favourites and conversely, players they appear to detest. Wearing those narrative-inducing glasses, a Torreira misplaced pass will be ignored and say a Bellerin or Xhaka will course apolexy.

Bob N16

apoplexy…

Pierre

Wenger wasted the last 3 years playing Ramsey in a 2 man midfield…..to his credit the new manager rectified that area from the off for the benefit of the team.

Nelson

I am not a fan of experimenting different formations. It can cause confusion. Anyway, if we continue to use wing backs for attack, they’ll need forwards to support them. The three central midfielders used in the first half is not the way to go.

Pierre

Bob I can’t see there being a massive turnaround of players ( if any ) in January….the team are competing well without playing great football so to offload players like Mhkitaryan and Ozil ( along with Ramsey) as many are suggesting on here , is not going to happen . Looking forward to seeing how the kids progress because, as you know , many of the most successful Arsenal sides over the years have had players that have come through the system ,george,rice ,brady,o’leary Stapleton ,Kelly,Kennedy back in the late 60’s/70’s were hugely successful plus George Graham had half a.team… Read more »

Bob N16

Agreed Pierre, the only thing is standards have been raised since the 70s when there were no foreign players(pretty much) and home grown players didn’t need to be of international standard to get in the squad. That being said my boyhood hero, Liam Brady, would have got into pretty much any team in Europe! Feel the strategy the to be bringing home grown through to fill out the squad. If decent players feel like they’re not getting enough game time, we can sell them on to contribute to our net spend. We should sign 2/3 starters who are likely to… Read more »

Bob N16

‘false economies’

Emiratesstroller

Pierre The club has made earlier this season the decision not to renew the contract of Ramsey and now there is a “holler” by many so-called supporters to offload Ozil as well. The Ramsey decision will result in him leaving on a Bosman and if Ozil were to go I bet that the transfer fee will be minimal. If Inter Milan are interested I am sure that they will want him on a “loan with option to buy” like most Italian clubs, which means we get zippo in terms of transfer fee. At best you get Ozil’s wages off the… Read more »

Marko

Pierre superfan. Hates it when you criticize the players (ones he likes) but loves to criticize the manager.

Guns of Hackney

Shit defence.
Powderpuff attack.
Terrible midfield except Gued and Torrier.

Cesc Appeal

No, get rid of Ozil as soon as possible. Emery has to be able to build his team.

It says everything doesn’t it if you think we can only unload him on a free or for a minimal fee despite him being ‘sublime’.

Work that one out.

Marko

Arsenal would need therefore to find a high energy, skilful and goalscoring midfielder to replace either Ozil or Ramsey in order to improve the team. Bluntly such players don’t grow on trees Are you suggesting that it’d be hard to replace these two players? Such is their rarity. I’d suggest you watch more football outside of Arsenal. You can easily and I mean easily replace an injury prone position-less midfielder with almost zero defensive responsibility and a CAM who averages about 4-5 goals a season and who’s only gotten 9 and 8 assists the last two seasons in all comps.… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

CA

What are you going to use for money with all these offloads that most of the
posters on Le Grove consider necessary?

The club has a limited budget almost certainly dependent on our sponsorship.
Kroenke is not going to finance new players a la Chelsea and Man City owners.

The AMF position is now becoming a problem, because of decisions being taken at management level. I might accept that decision if we were generating
considerable revenues from sale of Ramsey and Ozil, but that is not the case.

Marko

Could easily replace Ozil and Ramsey without spending 60-70 million per replacement.

Emiratesstroller

Marko

I am suggesting that if you want the type of player who offers more than Ramsey
and Ozil he is going to cost mega bucks which the club clearly has not got.

Do you think that Arsenal are the only club on planet looking for such players?

Cesc Appeal

ES Ozil does not get to stay by default, because Wenger and Gazidis were f*****g planks with his new deal. We cannot tie up £350 000 a week in a player that Emery clearly does not fancy and dropped for Bournemouth, Spurs, United, Huddersfield on a real gauntlet run. At the moment he’s worth little to nothing to us playing, if we can get some money for him, great, if not we speculate in January and pull on our summer budget if we have to and get Emery the CAM he wants. This is part of the reason we hired… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

They’re both bit part players this season so would only need to be replaced by buying one starter as Cam, can easily be done for between 30-50m.

Mikhi and Welbeck the same, replace with one starter on the wing.

Nelson is coming back in the summer to flesh out our wing options and ESR can start getting more minutes if needed.

North of 90m you’re having a laugh…

raptora

Doesn’t mean that we can’t get a homerun. Sven did it with Torreira. 26m for a CDM. A cam/winger of similar potential would be ~40m. It’s affordable.

Cesc Appeal

‘I am suggesting that if you want the type of player who offers more than Ramsey
and Ozil he is going to cost mega bucks which the club clearly has not got.’

Simply not true.

Ignoring the fact that they can’t play together and ignoring the fact Emery has dropped both of them.

As Freddie said, you can buy one player to cover for them both in this system.

Marko

I am suggesting that if you want the type of player who offers more than Ramsey and Ozil he is going to cost mega bucks which the club clearly has not got. I am suggesting that you watch more football than just watching Arsenal. There are plenty of talented attacking players out there who would improve us and who wouldn’t cost an arm and a leg. If it was left to you we’d remain stuck with shit players because of the hassle of replacing them and that’s an awful way to look at things. Take Ozil for example gets about… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

Raptora

Agreed.

This is what we brought Mislintat in for.

Especially if they are looking for a smartly scouted winger as well which means we add goals and assists from the wide position that simply aren’t there right now.

Marko

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mesut-ozils-agent-to-fly-13708940

This is how you can get rid of him. Not free not accepting a loan with the other team paying part of the wage you accept a less than ideal but fair price and be done with it. And yes Inter can afford 25 million

Cesc Appeal

£25 Million is fair given his ability and his salary

Rambo Ramsey

Mesut Ozil is just a bizarre human being.

You have been given a chance to play football in a side entering an exciting new chapter. And you get to live in one of the best cities in the World collecting an extravagant salary every week.

Why wouldn’t you want to give it your all in these circumstances?

Marko

I still think we should be cheeky and try and use him in a deal for Skriniar. 40 million and Ozil would price him at 60+ million which seems a fair price

Alexanderhenry

Another great result.
Fatigue and injuries are both starting to kick in however.
Koscielny’s return is a bonus though. I think he’ll play a part this season as will monreal.

Guns of Hackney

Lots of people struggling with the concept of contracts on here.

Ozil signed a lucrative and long deal. He has zero obligation to leave. Arsenal can not sell a player who does not want to move.

He has no international career.
He’s 30.
He’s a gutless prick.
He’s amazing at computer games.

He will happily sit out the remaining 3 years getting £1,000,000 a month.

Arsenal fc fucked this and will have to suffer the consequences.

Nelson

GOH

Whose fault is this mess???

Guns of Hackney

Nelson

Arsene Wenger
Ivan Gazidis

You can swap them around but both of these clowns lit the fire at Arsenal…now we’ll truly see how bad financially we’ve been left.

Micheal

“Whose fault is this mess???”

In descending order:

3. Wenger for arranging the Ozil contract
2. Ivan as CEO for approving it and signing the cheque
1. Stan as owner for overseeing the shambles and not intervening.

Dissenter

The best Christmas Arsenal can get is for Ozil to be sold for anything.
Let him go on his free transfer in January 2018.
Surely someone may give him the 350k weekly if cost them nothing in transfer.

His back injury is not going to fully recover because he’s spineless to begin with.

Dissenter

***Let him go on his free transfer in January 2019

Guns of Hackney

Why would Ozil leave a job paying him £12m a season…to do nothing?

Contract.

End.

Dissenter

Emirates
“Do you think that Arsenal are the only club on planet looking for such players?”

That’s so Wengeresque
That’s why you pay people and set up a system. It’s alreasy working with Torriera. We just need to replicate that level of scouting and deal making across th board.

We don’t need to spend and arm and leg to get players better than Ozil and Ramsey.

Guns of Hackney

Torrier will be a Barcelona or city player within 2 years. Every club will be sitting up and watching him.

Arsenal need to make his contract watertight. He’s a real class act.

Dissenter

Guns of Hackney
We can come to an agreement to have someone take him on a free transfer p, lay him 250-300k in wages….and pay the balance of the wages.

Ozil is no Winston Bogarde
He’s not going to stay where he’s not wanted. He’s an ultra pride guy. That’s why he quit playing for Germany. He’s not going to stick around a club that detests him.

Jamie

No chance the machine behind Brand Ozil is going to let him sit on the bench for effectively the rest of his footballing career, or at best, his few remaining ‘peak’ years. There’s still money to be made for him and his management team. If he isn’t off in January, it’ll be in the summer. Any fee, provided Arsenal doesn’t have to contribute towards his wages is a good deal for us. Guns isn’t right about much, and he isn’t right about suggesting Ozil will be happy to sit on the bench collecting his wages until he retires. That would… Read more »

Dissenter

Guns,
“Torrier will be a Barcelona or city player within 2 years. Every club will be sitting up and watching him“

You talk as if that such a bad thing.
I don’t really care if Torriera leaves for Barca or Madrid in 2 years.
Thare are more Torrieras in the fish tank. So long as those clubs are willing to pay a kings ransom of 100-150 million, he can leave in 2018
We take the money and we reinvest it and move on.

Guns of Hackney

Dissenter Mate…would you leave a job paying you a million a month where you don’t even have to actually work? You can also call in sick whenever…play games and take selfies all day. He quit Germany because he was made scapegoat (some truth to it) and his ill timed photo session with the Turkish president. I don’t think it’s pride as such…more pouting. I just don’t see Ozil at 30, commanding £300k a week wages. Even if there was no transfer fee. It’s still a lot of cash over three years to pay someone who doesn’t fancy it. I think… Read more »

Dissenter

Jamie
Guns doesn’t realize that Ozil probably makes more in branding/commercial endorsements than he makes from direct wages.p from Arsenal.

The lad who took on the German FA won’t just stay on the bench. So long as the board stands behind Emery, Ozil will be gone super fast.

Guns of Hackney

What the fuck is Ozil putting his name or face to except exotic fish food?

Christ.

Dissenter

Guns
The pint made is that Arsenal aren’t the only party that will be seeking a resolution.
Ozil too will be desperate to leave because he’s a proud dude.
For Arsenal it’s about mitigating a bad situation. We are not going to make money from an Ozil exit.
For Ozil is about moving to a club where he feels accepted.

tunnygriffboy

Devils advocate. What if Ozil is genuinely injured???

Would anyone give Kos and Monreal a half on Thursday to get 45 mins in their legs ??

I’d give some players 2/3 days off this week. We looking tired atm and ridiculous run fixtures coming up.

Dissenter

Guns
Ozil is a major brand amabassador for Adidas, signed a $35 million deal spread over 7 years in 2014. He’s also a major face for Mercedes Benz.
I do think his marketability has dropped since he stopped being the multicultural face of German football.
All we can do is hope I guess.

Dissenter

***So long as those clubs are willing to pay a kings ransom of 100-150 million, he can leave in 2020.

Dream10

tunnygriffboy

Expecting both Koscielny and Monreal to get minutes on Thursday. Big ask to play Kos against Southampton though. After being out with a serious injury, I don’t think he can play in a match of that intensity. Is he ready to cover the gaps we leave when both our fullbacks/wingbacks push up and at least one of Torreira/Xhaka join the attack? Our way of playing exposes our defenders. Koscielny was a hero for us for many years. Lot to ask of him now.

Thorough

I think if we want to replace Ozil and Ramsey with one player the answer is so glaring – Nabil Fekir. If we have a midfield 3 of Xhaka, Torreira and Fekir, and an attack of Auba, Laca and Pepe that would be next level or a few steps closer I guess.

I don’t know About Ismaila Sarr and Kai Havertz, but if we can add some goals in CAM and the wing we would be on our way.
And about time we fine someone worthy of tutoring ESR.

tunnygriffboy

Dream

Just wondering if we have to play Kos. Need a must and all that. It not ideal though at all and the defence will be a worry next week. Very makeshift.

Joe

Pierre

Iwobi has not regressed. He’s the same level of crap he became under Wenger. He shown a few more flashes of a player under emery’s guidance mind than he did under Wenger

Bellerin has improved a lot under emery. The only criticism of him yesterday was that his finishing was shit. Expected from a RB. But his overall game has been much improved under emery.

Joe

If emery isn’t going to use Ozil, sell him for free. What ever it takes to get him off the books and replaced.

Get rid of mkhit as well who is crap no matter what clueless about football Pierre thinks of him.

Get rid of both of them and buy one top player. Like Fekir. Etc.

Pierre wants us to trust his judgment on mkhit after he backed Wenger (and still does) for the last 14 years.

Man U stole Sanchez from us by giving us mkhit. Thanks Ivan and Wenger. Parting gift

Joe

I trust our guys to be able to find someone to replace Ozil and mkhit and Iwobi , if they feel like it’s the right move.

A Torriera like signing as our AM

Bamford10

Sokratis is apparently out for next Sunday on account of card accumulation. As is Mustafi, who may also be injured.

Koscielny? Monreal? Jenkinson? Medley?

Not a good situation.

Bamford10

I think Almiron is worth looking at. He’s skillful, brings both assists and goals and he runs and presses non-stop and is full of athleticism. Yes, he is coming from MLS, but he’s Paraguayan, not American, and he played in the Argentina league before MLS. His season with Atlanta just finished. I don’t know exactly how these things work, but I would bring him into camp for a few days and see how he looks against our players. I think he could be a Torreira-like signing. Slightly off the radar of others, but a polished, hard-working South American. Worth at… Read more »

HighburyLegend

There is a clear break between 5th (us with 34 pts) and 6th (Manure with 26 pts).
I really don’t see why we couldn’t stay in this mix all the way.
(With maybe some opportunities for the top 3 ?)

Funny how it’s been a f*cking while that I haven’t been so positive in my comments… go figure why.
Proud to be a Gooner again. At last.

Joe

We’ve lost only 1 match less than city

2 less than spuds

Same losses as Chelsea.

We are having a good season!

Liverpool will drop points. We will beat them. Hopefully so do united.

Marc

Bamford

I wouldn’t be in the least surprised to see us go with a back 3 again next week of Kos, Lich and Monreal. It’s not great but it could worse we could have City or Liverpool away and at least the midweek match is irrelevant. I don’t want to see any senior players in that.

HighburyLegend

“So Perrie has flipped the switch and is once again a high and mighty Superfan. It would be funny if it wasn’t so damn pathetic.”
And if he didn’t find the way to be the first to use the name of his former master in his comments.

Nelson

My hope is Wenger joins a team in January and Ozil will team up with him again. We can finally move on and start a new chapter.

Marko

I don’t know exactly how these things work, but I would bring him into camp for a few days and see how he looks against our players.

Yeah that’s not how it works. You’re speaking of a trial that usually doesn’t happen with senior sellable star players

Joe

Zlatan doesn’t do auditions

Pierre

Tunnygriffboy
“Devils advocate. What if Ozil is genuinely injured???”

Let’s look at.it logically…there are pictures of ozil having one to one training sessions with the fitness coach shad forsythe and Emery confirming that he has back spasms .

Is it all a facade ..are the photos of ozil taken with the fitness coach fake …is it all just a deception to get us to believe that he is actually injured.

It doesn’t say much for Emery and the fitness coach if it is all a facade does it ….

Personally,I would rather believe the management team .

gonnerram

Liverpool have a very tough and must win match coming their way. They will have to play top notch etc to keep their CL dreams alive.
It is the same for the spuds as well. They play Barca and usually PL teams are knackered at the end of it.
I am sure both spuds and pool will drop points in December and we should be able to consolidate out position in the top-3. As long as we stay within the touching distance we should be fine going into Jan when the madness of these games subsidies.

Dissenter

Bamford
“I don’t know exactly how these things work, but I would bring him into camp for a few days and see how he looks against our players.”

C’mon man 😊
It’s not like buying new shoes. The selling club wont afford a restocking fee should we decide to change our mind after the trial.

Dissenter

*The selling club wont accept a restocking fee

Pierre

Joe
“Pierre…Iwobi has not regressed”

My comment on here earlier was ” going by the comments on le grove ,iwobi has regressed” …so I would suggest you question the people who hold that point of view,not me..

Joe

Pierre

He’s same level as he was last year with a few more flashes of being a player thrown in

Don’t think he’ll be around much longer. Unless he has a drastic change in performance.

Unfortunately he couldn’t build on his couple good performances earlier in the year

Pierre

Bob N16 “Agreed Pierre, the only thing is standards have been raised since the 70s when there were no foreign players(pretty much) and home grown players didn’t need to be of international standard to get in the squad” I always say the “foreign players” back in the day were the scots,Welsh and the Irish though I agree that the level is higher now so consequently the openings are not there for young players to make the breakthrough.. You only have to look at the abuse iwobi and Bellerin have received on le grove over the last few years to understand… Read more »

Marko

Let’s look at.it logically…there are pictures of ozil having one to one training sessions with the fitness coach shad forsythe and Emery confirming that he has back spasms One could argue they’re keeping up a facade and having him train alone because he’s been ostracized from the group. Also Emery said back ache. Question would you put it past the cunt? Granted back spasms can’t really be proven but what can be proven is that he said he was out with illness before and was then photographed in Istanbul with the girlfriend. I mean it’s quite clearly a question of… Read more »