Two Points Dropped In Old Trafford Brawl

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Arsenal didn’t go to Old Trafford to play a football match, they went to fight a war. Jose Mourinho had no other way to compete. He’s built a £350m Stoke, a bland execution of hard pressing blended with brazen thuggery. This time though, we were their equal. For every clipped set of heels, we had a shoulder barge. For every elbow, we had a crunched shin. The game wasn’t high on technical wonderment, it was more a brutal showcase of the darker side of the English game. Though it has to be said, United made over 120 more passes than Spurs did at the weekend, and Arsenal roughly the same amount.

Though it was enjoyable to watch us go toe-to-toe, in the end, we walked away with the feeling that we fucked a great opportunity. That was two points lost. Familiar shabby defending and some not-so-familiar missed chances cost us in a game that finished a 2-2 draw.

Arsenal shouldn’t be conceding leads as quickly as we have been. We went 1-0 up from a corner. Mustafi managed to break free from a penalty box tangle and powered a strong header into the slick grass, De Gea fumbled the catch and Herrera on the line volleyed the clearance instead of heading it away, allowing the ball to creep half a yard deeper past the goal line. The ref looked at his wrist and saw that tech had decided the goal would stand. You have to say, Mustafi is an absolute menace from corners.

In a re-run of the weekend game against Spurs, 4 minutes later, we conceded. This time, from a freekick. Rojo surprised everyone and clipped a shot across Leno, the German pushed the ball wide, but he didn’t put it behind the goal. Herrera pounced on the second ball (was offside as well), the cross made its way through a huddle of aqua blue shirts, finding Martial who smashed the ball in from close range.

It was the same story in the second half after Emery introduced Mikhi and Lacazette. The Frenchman timed a great run into the box, he struck his shot into two United defenders and the ball somehow slinked past De Gea. Then, immediately from the restart, we struggled with a long ball, Sokratis misjudging the flight, Kolasinac and Leno were caught in no man’s land allowing Lingaard to zip in and take United level again.

The game turned into a slugfest as both sets of players tired. It was brutal. Violent tackle after violent tackle. I have no idea how Torreira survived, he was crunched over and over again, but never gave up. We had the better of the chances. Auba was denied by De Gea’s dropped leg when he struck from a Kola cut back. Lacazette headed the ball out of De Gea’s hand and struck into the empty net, I thought that was legal, but the ref didn’t. Then there was a moment right at the end when Mikhi came from an offside position to volley in from an impossibly tight angle.

It wasn’t to be. United will be feeling luckier than us today, but the 20 game unbeaten run goes on and we can say that we preserve the progress momentum heading into the Huddersfield game this weekend.

Thoughts:

Iwobi: I think I was bang on when I called out his recent performances. He had a really poor game after being subbed at half time versus Spurs. His close control is Hleb like, but his overall decision making isn’t decisive enough and when it is, it isn’t often right. 72% pass completion isn’t great in a massive game at United.

Guendouzi: He stepped in for Xhaka at Old Trafford. I feel like he’s being judged through a 26 year old international lens when he’s a teenager. Though his start was shaky, he really grew into the game. He doesn’t ever give up, he’s always looking for the ball and he can drive forward with clever dribbles, or quick short passes. He delivered an incredible 87% pass completion rate (25 of his of his 65 successful passes made in the final third, 10 more than anyone else). He also made 7 ball recoveries. Just think about that. I was really impressed. Once his nerves subsided, he really made an impact on the game. Fellaini pulling his hair was the height of embarrassing… interesting that MG was also the most fouled (6). United clearly targeting the new boy.

Torreira: A mini man mountain. He is everything you want at the heart of your team. He’s focused, never complains and he’ll go to war with anyone. Each game he grows. To play next to a teenager and still look excellent is quite the achievement (90% pass completion / 10 ball recoveries). My worry is he’s playing all the games and we don’t really have anyone else in the squad to fill in for what he does. He’s integral to our mentality, maybe AMN could step in when he needs a rest? I ADORE this guy.

Leno: You have to call it out, he’s made two errors in two games. I think he could have done better with that free kick. The strike was surprising, but not fierce enough not to put it behind the goal. All players make mistakes, let’s hope missteps in big games isn’t a thing

Holding: Absolutely gutted Rob Baresi picked up an injury because if it’s a nasty one, we don’t have Kos now because he’s broken again. Not an ideal time to lose your best passer out of the back.

Kola: He’s a chance making machine. Absolutely devastating down the left. He created some fantastic chances this evening that should have counted towards goals. His defensive side needs some work, but his power and pace driving into the oppositions box has proved deadly when he’s played. He created three chances yesterday, 5 against Spurs. That’s not bad for a wing back.

Laca/Auba: I love these two. Auba was dying by the end of the game, but it’s great to know you’re always in the game with them on the pitch. I love them both. I’m especially enjoying the more creative side of Auba coming through. He’s starting to show he’s more than just a goalscorer. His pressing from the front was really solid. Lacazette is another warrior. What he delivers with his pressing is underrated. He’s also more attuned to the rough and tumble of the league this year. How he managed to score from two players swamping him is something else.

Mikhi: He started poorly, but I thought he grew into the game and had some excellent moments. With the real Mesut Ozil MIA at the minute, we need an experienced creative in the team. If he can give us Dortmund Mikhi, we’re in good shape. I feel like there’s some form in there somewhere, hopefully, Emery and the coaches can release him.

Warrior Mentality: It was interesting to hear Emery talk about how he was a coward of a player and he doesn’t allow it in his players. The team is motivated, they relish the fight and we are not to be fucked with. I think we’ve seen a lot of evidence that suggests the signings of Papa, Torreira and Lichtsteiner have been very smart. They are brawlers. They bring out the nasty in everyone. You want to go to war with those guys on your team.

We might not have the best squad in the league, but with smart preparation, fighting spirit and a lot of belief… there’s no reason we can’t secure top 4.

Onwards and upwards. What a fucking joy it is to love football again.

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Graham62

gambon ” He was massively naive to put so much trust in so many failures though” ” If he doesn’t act decisively in the next two windows he will be gone fairly soon” No disrespect, but what medication are you on? So you’re saying Emery could be gone after next summers TW if things don’t improve defensively ? Is that right? Three points- 1. Who else could he put his trust in? Maybe the tea ladies? 2. You say “failures”. I say badly coached, underprepared and demotivated players. 3. From being headless chickens defensively, we are now occasionally frail, which… Read more »

Redtruth

The defence looks a lot rosier with teams who keep the ball and dominate.

HighburyLegend

“I think you’re confusing Emery with Wenger.”

lol

Graham62

Leedsgunner

I don’t think Ozil gives a Castlemaine XXXX.

gambon

Graham

How many seasons do you think Emery will get to keep finishing outside the top 4?

You think he was employed to finish 6th?

As for your ridiculous point about our defence….it hasn’t improved at all. Not one bit.

15 games…..20 goals conceded is not “occasionally frail”.

Leedsgunner

graham62 Not to put words in gambon’s mouth, but I agree with him that he needs to start using upcoming TWs to address our first team’s weaknesses. Wenger knew what the weaknesses were but he for the most part fudged it. Emery cannot do this… he needs to address it at the first time of asking. The signs are good though… Lucas Torreira was a player we have been crying out for since Gilberto left. The club brought him in. I’m sure Emery has asked Raul and Sven to sort it out the defence with his preferred targets. Very interested… Read more »

Mysticleaves

Bamford/Paulinho

It’s true that sometimes Pierre is over the top about midfield two being static. Ideally he wants the back four and the pivot never to cross the centre circle and allowing the front 4 the freedom to attack attack attack.

However, Ramsey in that last two seasons is a typical example of the movie How Not To Play CM in a Two Man Midfield. He doesn’t occasionally join the attack with intelligent runs, he always joins the attack and sometimes gets in the way of strikers. He was awful there. That is what most people are saying

WengerEagle

Like Gambon have no idea what a few are seeing in Miki, a lazy and slow plodder for the most part that is a turnover machine.

Nearly making me pine for that mopey wimp Ozil.

Leedsgunner

Any news on the Holding injury?

WengerEagle

Ramsey over Miki all day long, shouldn’t even be a debate.

Paulinho

Mystic – He wasn’t awful in the slightest. You rated him higher than Saul Niguez based on his midfield play so you’re completely contradicting yourself again.

Mysticleaves

Gambon

We will finish top 4 this season.

Leedsgunner

Mkhitaryan did best work before he even stepped on the field… he convinced PEA to join us! His goals have been absolutely crucial for us!

I’m afraid though, unless his form picks up massively, he needs to be shipped out along with Elneny and Jenksinson in January. Even if we sold badly, surely we should able to achieve £35m for the three of them combined?

Then use that money to buy a young promising winger or a left back.

Leedsgunner

*I’m afraid though, unless Mkhitaryan’s form picks up massively, he needs to be shipped out along with Elneny and Jenksinson in January.

WengerEagle

Think you’re dreaming there I’m afraid Leeds, more like 20 million max for the trio as Jenk is shocking, Elneny isn’t much better and Miki is 30 and physically way on the decline.

Paulinho

“Like Gambon have no idea what a few are seeing in Miki, a lazy and slow plodder for the most part that is a turnover machine.”

Best I can say about him is that he is obviously well-schooled in terms of where to move in the final third, which means he finds himself in great positions, and he also can be pretty incisive in terms of final ball, but even then I’m probably stretching it.

WengerEagle

Don’t mind having Kola as a utility left sided squaddie but he absolutely cannot keep starting at LB if we are serious about top 3-4, complete liability defensively.

Leedsgunner

Wenger Eagle

Even £20m is better than a kick in the teeth, I guess the lesson we can all learn from this is this… don’t bring in ponies to begin with.

WengerEagle

Paulinho

True and technically he’s obviously gifted, sweet weak peg on him but fuck me Walcott was more useful than him even with all of his limitations, also had a reliable end product but could actually run.

WengerEagle

Leeds

20 mill still gets you a very decent LB if you look in the right places, like Robertson for Pool who only cost 8 mill.

Won’t be enough for top shelf likes of Telles, Mendy, etc though. We haven’t had a top bin LB since Cole.

Graham62

gambon Have you actually been watching Arsenal play these past ten years or so? Let’s put it simply. We are, as it stands, under Emery around 4/10 defensively. Prior to this we were a 2/10 or 3/10. If we get to somewhere near 6/10, we’ll be nearly there. Not disputing that Emery needs to use the TW’s wisely but don’t you think he should be given time to work with what we’ve got, before splashing the cash? Jesus, I sat back and twiddled my thumbs for a decade waiting for Mr Wenger to work on our defence. Give Emery a… Read more »

Leedsgunner

Wenger Eagle

Segnesson? At Fulham? All hype? Or do you rate him?

I wonder if Fulham would be tempted to sell Ryan Segnesson to us if we threw in say £10m and Calum Chambers into the mix. From what I’ve seen that boy is an amazing talent. In fact if it helped us secure him I would be willing to loan him back to Fulham for the rest of the season to have join next year.

Apparently Calum Chambers is really thought of highly by Ranieri… maybe he’ll make a bid.

WengerEagle

Graham

The defence had been poor, not sure that we’ve seen any improvement from the AW regime in that respect.

Defending 20 goals conceded in 15 is hard to do, on course to concede 50 PL goals which would be awful.

WengerEagle

Leeds

Like RS but he’s yet to show that he can make the jump from Championship performer to PL one, only a kid and definitely one for the future but we need someone who will come in and do a job right now, like Monreal of a few years ago.

Mysticleaves

Rumors suggest Almiron is a done deal ……..to Newcastle. Gutted a bit. Hope SES have some names up their sleeves

Leedsgunner

Kola is useful… an upgrade on Gibbs with more attacking flair and marginally less injury prone.

Leedsgunner

Almiron looks good on video clips but remember he’s ripping it up in the MLS… is this making him look better than he actually is?

WengerEagle

He that MLS lad for Atlanta?

I’d be very sceptical of taking players from the MLS, Bradley Wright-Phillips is still long dicking it over there and Altidore is actually prolific, I don’t trust that level personally.

Terri Maaki

Gambon on crack this week meth the week before… Kayser where you at

Akilan

Wow, now Emery can’t improve us defensively ever… Yesterday, despite manure fielding the likes of Martial, Rashford and Lingard, they never really threatened us from the open play. As poor as our defense was, Manure’s chances were couple of long shots and those jammy goals. I didn’t see our system failing in the last 3 tough games where our goalie had to make save after saves to keep us in the game. That alone is an improvement in my book. Pep and Klopp had multiple TWs and 100s of millions to fix their defense. I’m pretty sure we will get… Read more »

WengerEagle

Josef Martinez was useless in Europe and he’s reminiscent of Romario in the MLS.

It’s still a retirement league in all honesty.

Guns of sf

The red zone

We need to rest these players or they will break

Torreira
Auba
Bellerin

Graham62

For the first time in a long long time, Arsenal players are having to think.

If you thought that everything would be hunky dory, without spending huge amounts, then I’m afraid you just don’t get it.

We are no longer a joke and are competing again. Get it, WE ARE COMPETING AGAIN!

What more do you want after just 6 months at the helm?

Leedsgunner

Hey BacaryisGod

You’re famous!!! Your “Fortnite” has been picked up! Lol.

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/ozil-fortnite-theory-211213-211213

Leedsgunner

*Fortnite theory

Graham62

Cheer on regression for ten years and criticize change and progression after only 6 months.

Lol!

WengerEagle

Graham

You’re getting it twisted, all in all I’ve been very positive about Emery if you’ve paid attention to my posts.

But the defence has been shit, and needs drastic improvement.

Dream10

Leeds & Wenger Eagle

I’m not sure Kolasinac is better than Gibbs overall. He does provide more in the final third. But he is below avg defensively. Finds it difficult in a back four.

Pretty sure one of the reasons Gazidis hired Emery was that he’s comfortable working on a budget with youth promotion and a few touch ups in the transfer market.
Don’t see us in for Mendy/Alex Sandro or top names in other positions.

Talk to me about Kieran Tierney. You guys rate him?

Leedsgunner

I like Tierney, plays for Celtic doesn’t he?

Marc

Not sure how anyone can say we haven’t progressed under Emery. The simple stats are as follows in the comparative fixtures to last season. We’ve conceded 3 less (still needs to improve), scored 2 more and are half a point off achieving half of last seasons points tally after 15 matches. We have also accrued 14 away points so far compared to 16 in the whole of last season.

Oh yeah and we aren’t having thousands and thousands stay away from every home match.

Akilan

Chelsea’s banter strikers are finally biting their arses heavily. Considering they play city and some solid mid table teams in the festive period, we could be 3-5 points clear by the time we play them in January. Beat them at home and we could easily finish above them.

Also, all their big games bar spuds have been at the bridge. Could be a difference as well. Hopefully I haven’t jinxed it.

Pierre

Mysticleaves “It’s true that sometimes Pierre is over the top about midfield two being static. Ideally he wants the back four and the pivot never to cross the centre circle and allowing the front 4 the freedom to attack attack attack. Not quite right Firstly ,there is nothing wrong in having one of the full backs advanced leaving 3 defenders back…my argument is with having both full backs advanced in a back 4 …no problem with both wing backs being advanced… Secondly …I have never said I didn’t want a midfielder crossing the half way line …of course both central… Read more »

gambon

“Get it, WE ARE COMPETING AGAIN!”

Competing for what? 5th?

Danny

Competing for what? 5th?
—————————
Well that’s an improvement on last seasons 6th……..

HighburyLegend

@gambon : what were you expecting ?? Competing for 1st ??

Give a rest ffs, or if you don’t like the current situation, call back Arsène.

HighburyLegend

*it

Joe

Pierre

Are you blaming the two goals last night on emery’s defensive philosophy?????

Asking for a friend.

Joe

Gambon

I’d say we are in the race for 2-4th

useroz

Definitely 2 points dropped. Both teams didn’t play well but we were better. At least with more BIG chances. What’s the xG? Must be saying we were ‘unlucky’. Guendouzi is a 19 yo from Ligue 1 reserve in his first PL season. He did well last night. Gave the team lots of forward momentum and link up in the final 3rd; Pedro’s stats refer. Wot more could we ask for? The foul was bad luck. Guendouzi pulled away (unlike Xhara, Mustafi type) and whoever fell with the slightest touch felt. Leno and Iwobi/ Holding had fair chances to prevent the… Read more »

Micheal

Emery on Holding this afternoon:

“The doctors are looking at him and will communicate,” said Emery. “At the moment the first news is not good, but we need confirming it.”

BacaryisGod

Hey Leeds-nice that the conspiarcy theory is getting picked up but it’s funny that Pedro is getting attributed for it. Not quite what he intended! Good overall post-match summary from Pedro. The next month is looking like a real test for Emery with injuries starting to pick up and the schedule beginning to wear on our regulars like Torreira and Aubameyang. I knew that we would drop off from the high of the Spurs game but my prediction of a 2-1 defeat with goals from Lukaku and Pogba was way off thanks to Mourinho. Why he didn’t start a big… Read more »

Micheal

Gomez at Liverpool has fractured his leg. Minimum 6 weeks out. Notavailable for our visit to Anfield.

Champagne charlie

“And by the way, contrary to what some were saying here last night, Auba didn’t “miss a sitter”. That was more a case of De Gea making a really good foot save“

It was meat and drink for an elite striker, he fluffed his lines. That’s not a save, it’s a miss. He hit it at the GK and nothing more.

“Really good foot save” – what a load of soccerball gibberish.

Pierre

Joe No … I am just making the point that there is no point in fans moaning about the defence as, from what I have seen so far, Emery is not setting up the team to stop conceding goals… I honestly thought that a new manager coming in would have made the defence a priority….yes we have bought Sokratis and Torriera and the midfield set up has improved and the keeper situation has improved but it is not showing on the pitch.. Just confirming that it is not me criticising Emery ,I am just giving a reason as to why… Read more »

Pierre

Charlie
Giroud ?

Leedsgunner

It doesn’t sound good for Holding does it? Sigh. Poor chap. I hope he doesn’t become a perpetual crock like Jack and Ramsey.

Get well soon Rob!

Champagne charlie

Pierre

Giroud what? I was commenting on a certain take of Aubameyangs miss last night getting dressed up as a stellar DDG save. It was a a shocker from Auba, spade being a spade and all.

Arsnil

I think that a lot of the defensive problems that we have at the moment may stem from the insistence that we play out from the back. There is nothing at all wrong with this if done at the right time. But it can cause indecision at times just like last night for the two goals conceeded if you take away the most elemental choice of hoofing it into the stands. If you watch both goals again you will see that no player wanted to do that even though both times two of our players had the option to do… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Aubameyangs chance saved by De Gea was not a sitter

The ball came in and he placed it the only place is should go, low and under the keeper as De Gea had rushed out and made himself big, it was a good save end of. By no means meat and drink for anyone.

Receding Hairline

You have to laugh at Gambon and his high standards, he has been on here since last night screaming like a teenage girl demanding we compete, and calling any player he can find names, what a drama queen.

Leedsgunner

I don’t know about competing again, but for the first time in a long time we look like we are a side that gives a damn about winning football games rather than just a collection of self serving individuals collecting a pay check.

It’s a start.

Receding Hairline

the only sitter missed last night was by Mkhi, he didn’t even need to hit the ball, just leave your foot there and it glances in, absolute shocker

Champagne charlie

Arsenal may find themselves NEEDING two additions in January with injuries to Welbeck and Holding.

I’d venture to say Holdings injury is priority given we could band-aid the wing position with internal solutions, or promote an academy player at a push. Not at CB though.

Anyone know who’s a defensive talent in our sights? Koulibaly etc ain’t happening, much less in Jan.

Leedsgunner

De Gea pulled off a good save from Aubameyang and suddenly it’shis fault? At least he had a shot and it was on target!

Receding Hairline

Leedsgunner Dunno how anyone can have a go at a team who despite their obvious flaws have refused to lose a game since August, we are in December. I find it funny how most posters put up this i demand more from my team because i am not a loser attitude on here, we are coming along nicely, mistakes happen even the best make mistakes, with patience and the right additions we will get there. The only people criticizing Arsenal now are arsenal fans, i guess those who genuinely believed that once Wenger leaves we will romp our way to… Read more »

kc

What a shit post.. Two points dropped at Old Trafford? After two starters got injured? Guendouzi was like a chicken with his head cut off out there. No question we missed Xhaka. Pedro letting his personal opinions get in the way of facts. It’s a common symptom of the disease known as as liberalism.

Dream10

Holding done his cruciate. Out of the season. Feel bad for the young guy. Just as he was putting a string of games together.

We’re on pace for 79pts. One stats prediction model guy saying we’re projected for 73pts. Looks like fthe 5th place team will be averaging close to two pts per match. Similar to 16-17 when we finished 5th with 75pts, Liverpool 4th with 76pts and City 3rd with 78pts.

Graham62

gambon

Forget 1st and 2nd, we are competing for 3rd and 4th.

This would be an incredible achievement based on the where we were.

I know some won’t like me saying this but, if we were still under Wenger, we would probably be competing for 5th- 7th position and would be at least 8 points worse off than we are now. Taking everything into consideration.

Hypothetical I know, but I would still say close to the truth.

Guns of SF

As I said earlier – Jose will make this a dogfight and that is exactly what happened.
Personally, I think having both Auba and Laca to start would have made a difference- it would have put immense pressure on the D, one would surely score or even both.

Auba does need a rest- hopefully he can come on as sub for Huddersfield

Graham62

Receding Hairline

Yep, these are the same Arsenal fans who cheered on abject misery and failure.

Sorry to repeat myself, but mindblowingly stupid.

gambon

Yeah. I was certainly cheering Wenger on for many years.

Graham62

Let’s be honest here, how many of you felt that as soon as Mourinho brought on Lukaku, Fellaini and Pogba, we were fcuked?

Amazingly, because we’re now under Emery, we weren’t.

tunnygriffboy

Mustafa, Sokratis, a broken Now, an injured Mvarapanos.

We need a centre half badly now

Absolutely gutted

tunnygriffboy

Broken Kos

gambon

I hope we don’t do anything silly in the transfer market. At the end of the day we were going to bring in a CB and AM in the summer no doubt (unless Emery & Sven are mental) So the injuries to Welbeck and Holding should just bring that recruitment forward by 6 months. However if we can’t get the top calibre players we want, I don’t want some shit just to fill a space. In both positions we need players that are better than what we have. Not another squad level player. If we can’t get them just get… Read more »

Paulinho

Sickening for Holding.

Something weird about that Old Trafford pitch last night. Seemed like every player was on the verge of doing their cruciate after a tackle or landing on it.

TheLowCrows

I think we did break a hoodoo of not being outmuscled by thugs at Old Trafford. Also noticed the familiar tactic of last minute aerial bombardment when Mourinho threw in Lukaku, Fellaini and Pogba? Last year’s Arsenal would not have coped. We were wise to it and pretty much sussed this tactic out. I’ll take this result considering we gave so much during the Spurs game. In the end, let’s be honest. Considering where they are, this was not a 6-pointer (I think). This was just another premier league game and all things considered, a tough place to go away… Read more »

Akilan

Is there any chance we could get our hands on Pavard? Would Bayern allow the deal?

Guns of SF

Paulinho
It was the thuggery of manure players.
We played the real football. More chances created. It felt like Stoke City again- but this time with much better players. Im bummed with the draw, but given how things played out- I can live with it. As long as didnt lose to those orcs, we will be fine.

Karma is a bitch- and Manure will suffer that for their dirty tactics. Fuck them

SUGA3

Been on the way from the airport, so I did not get to see the game, just saw the goals now. That 2:2 goal was absolutely shocking, WTF was Kolasinac thinking. Leno should have reacted to that too, IMO.

Still, a point from OT? Good result. Also, Emery will make the most of this error in training, the team will genuinely learn from this.

Jamie

I like Guendouzi too, but he’s young and needs to be bled in slowly. He makes mistakes, and if we’re being fair, had Xhaka made the foul on Martial which lead to the free kick and goal, he would’ve been pilloried.

Micheal

Kos update:

“Emery says: “We are on a gradual way with him. He’s played two matches with the under-23s. He played 85 minutes on Tuesday and our plan is that he can maybe be with us in the 18 on Saturday. Maybe he can play against Qarabag in the Europa League. “

Victorious

Remember after the wolves game and I had quite a revealing exchange with CC(i think) on why we don’t have anything remotely close to a defense capable of making the top4 I was devoured upon by the EKB pack and called all sort of names for no offense other than simply stating the bleeding obvious, i mean it’s telling since that time my concern continues to unravel in the eyes of this set of fans For all the praises Emery seems to be getting in making us a fighting team, a team hard to beat, an attacking fluid team,etc..(deservedly so… Read more »

string

kc you are so right about pedro s post the bloke is now running this site for his own kicks he describex last night as a violent brawl ! what the fuck was he watching last night its arsenal v the mancs its football u toby pedro stick to american football and politics uve lost your direction on being arsenal

string

victorious
when did we last go unbeaten for this length of time under wenger???? so are defence is worse ???

Graham62

Holdings injury is a real blow.

Gutted for him.

Northbanker

Does string stand for the fact that you can’t string 2 words together in a coherent discussion? What a plonker

Graham62

Victorious

You were never this vocal under Wenger.

When we shipped five or six goals and consistently made comical defensive errors over many seasons, were you ever this concerned?

I don’t think so.

Why?

Joe

When we lost 8-2, 6-0, 6-3,5-1, 10-2,3-0,4-4,4-4, 5-1 again there was no manager is fault.

He’s had 6 months and one TW to sort it out

Neither of those goals yesterday were defensive philosophy at fault. Iwobi fell asleep/being lazy or whatever the fuck he was doing.

What the fuck was kola thinking. He’s not
A
Rookie? That has nothing to do with emery. It was a brain fart

We’re undefeated in 20. With a “crap” defence. Wait for emery to buy in
Jan/summer then let’s see what happens next season

Joe

Graham

Because we were playing lovely “Wenger ball”. Haha haha

The agendas are so funny. We have been shit defensively for years and years and some posters like Vicky are just mentioning it now.

Graham62

If we beat Huddersfield and Spuds and Chelski slip up against Leicester and MC respectively, we’ll be 3rd.

Losing ground to MC and Liverpool is, at this stage, inevitable.

Our concerns center around Chelski and the Spuds.

Joe

Graham

Like I said yesterday. I feel we will beat Liverpool at the kop

sting

northwanker
can you read or just another twat that doesn’t know what arsenal is about . we’re a team again for first time in years

Dissenter

Eagles
What do you know of this Wesley Moraes, the Club Brugges striker.
There’s tabloid talk we are seeking to sign him as replacement for Welbeck.

Guns of SF

I saw that too Dissenter. Big tall strong striker. Aerial threat?
Dont know much more but he is making waves apparently.

We do need a back up at striker
Winger
Defender
CAM ( likely in summer) my guess

Dissenter

tunnygriffboy
Long time no see
I thought you switched allegiance to Cardiff city or something.

Joe

We always needed a new CB signing. Maybe holdings injury gets us that in Jan

I trust the new back room to get it right. They won’t be signing squillaci or Sylvester type signings.

And like I said yesterday. Sokratis did nothing wrong when he played. He can fill in. Kos a stop gap until summer.

But still hope we sign someone. If it means waiting for a big name signing until summer so be it.

Dissenter

Guns of SF
I don’t know much about him. Is he a direct front-man or a winger ?

Northbanker

Agree with Gambon that buying a CB in Jan is potentially dangerous as there is a higher probability that we will end u with just another squad player in long term. That will take us nowhere.

I’m hoping Mavrapanos can make strong progress as we will now need him as cover.

Joe

Edie will/can be our 3rd striker next year