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Arsene Wenger is rocking the papers of the world hard, he wants in on ALL the jobs. Le Parisien is reporting that PSG are after him to replace the outgoing sporting director, Henrique. This is a really fucking weird move. If you’d paid any attention to Wenger over the past 15 years, you’d know firstly, picking out elite talent really hasn’t been his thing, and you’d also know that he was a world class ditherer.
‘Buying players isn’t like buying a loaf of bread’
Until we hired in competent people and reworked the entire spin of our team in 6 months and two windows. If the concern with Henrique is he didn’t get deals over the line, why would you bring in someone who let the contracts of Mesut, Sanchez and Ramsey crash into the danger zone?
The same paper also reckons Wenger is pushing for a sniff at Madrid and Bayern. I’d be happy to see him land both jobs. So would all the fans, regardless of the opinion they have of him. Let him go to one of those clubs, let him maybe win a trophy, just give him a little bit of a fun at a crisis club for a short amount of time before it all goes wrong and all the things that have degraded Arsenal hit him harder than a freight train at clubs that have seen what good coaching looks like.
Emery was in full on praise mode when it came to free-scoring Lacazette.
“When I arrived at PSG we were thinking about signing Lacazette. His quality & his characteristics we liked, & the people who were working at the club when we arrived, they said to us, ‘This player has the quality to play for PSG'”
“Last year was his first in the Premier League, it was a different to the French league, a different position for him, a different rhythm. Not a different mentality because he has a very good mentality & gives himself very good chances to score. He is very efficient”
Big words. He’s certainly been excellent this season. He’s the more well rounded of our strikers, he’s just not as physical as you’d like for the Premier League. That said, he scores bangers, he brings people into games and he looks like a great character to have in and around the dressing room. Hopefully, we get to see a bit more a plan about how to integrate him and his main bro, Aubameyang.
There’s a little transfer rumour going around that Arsenal are on standby to take Malcolm from Barca if the player continues to get the cold should from the manager over there. It was odd that he moved there in the first place, I’d have thought Arsenal or Roma were much more suited, and it’s clearly gone to shite so far. Could be a good loan move in January, where we’re really lacking true wide players.
That said, look no further than Reiss Nelson who scored two goals yesterday, taking his total to 4 in 4. Sancho and Reiss making a real point out in Germany, hopefully, their success points to a more traveled future for young English players. If we need to make a move on a wide player, why not bring back a superstar English kid working his socks off and delivering?
I really do think it’s a sign of the times that we have youth players good enough to be considered at other big leagues for loan moves. Smith Rowe is apparently on the radar of Thierry Henry, another move that’d make a lot of sense if he’s going to stay on the bench most of the season here.
Right, that’s me done, see you in the comments.
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Tr4phy
Damned!!
Wenger: the man you appoint when you want to pretend you are competing. He comes armed with 1000 ready made excuses
I’m back people
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Palace falling apart in the final 5 minutes.
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“Thanks for your patience during this difficult time.”
Pedro, considering what we AFC fans (at least me) in the last 10 years, that was walk in the park.. In a sunny afternoon with shades & shorts, gin tonic in one hand,the other hand over my gal’s shoulder and my gal handling my dog’s leash. A stroll
Besides the known deficiencies at our defence, a ball playing wide attacker is a must in our current setup to provide alternate angle to our attack as well as an potent outlet for our midfielders
Top 4 tomorrow?
One thing I never quite understood with the Ozil deal was how the hell was it considered the cheapest option?
£350k a week for 3 years works out at around £54.6 million. Bearing in mind no one else( apart from Beijing Wanderers) can afford those wages or would even consider giving him that amount of money, it beggars belief how they came to this conclusion.
Wenger and Gazidis should be hung, drawn and quartered for this decision alone.
Can someone explain this to me in layman’s terms.
Does anyone on here genuinely care what Wenger does or where he goes?
Graham62 Let me explain this to you. A player of Ozil’s caliber would cost at least 40-50mil to replace if he left on a free. So if anything, we got ourselves a bargain. Simple math. You should practice it sometimes.
Graham62
Let the Ozil deal go. Talk about better things. He’s here for 2 more years.
Another thing. Do people attach physicality to height? Cos a lot of people say Lacazettte is not physical and i am like wow. He’s one of the more physical strikers in the PL top6
Graham 62
Please accept my sincere apologies ….
I thought that you acting like a prick was all an act ,I thought you was playing a game on le grove but I got it all wrong …I’ve now come to the conclusion that you are ,without doubt, a 100% prick .
So again , I apologise..
Mysticleaves
I agree with you regarding Lacazette…in my opinion I believe he is better at protecting the ball and stronger on the ball than giroud ever was…
Plus he is a better finisher…we need to keep feeding the ball into Lacazette ‘s feet in the area as he is capable of doing damage to the opposition.
I like the fact Emery recognises that he can go to another level .
Pierre
Based on your ongoing “spineless” and “dysfunctional” reactions to so many things on here, I don’t give a shite how you perceive me.
Stick to golf.
Onwards and upwards.
Score prediction for tomorrow? 2-1?
A clean sheet would be nice. At home, we should be winning this game.
Mystic its the height
Lacazette is as physical as they come but the height makes u ignore that. If I’m being honest his height is the only reason I never quite fancied him when he was at Lyon
Graham
I’d like to see him do well of course.
There’s a saying that hold true for all sports; You cannot buy height.
Height isn’t physicality and I’ve never seen anyone confuse the two.
Lacazette isn’t a physical striker. He’s not they type of player that relishes physicality like Alan Shearer. That doesn’t mean he’s a wimp though.
*hold true
*not the type of player
It’s become hard to correct errors with this new system.
Wenger looking after PSG’s transfers is about the funniest thing. You know he’d have signed Bernard instead of Neymar Mustafi instead of Thiago Silva and Xhaka instead of Verratti. He’d honestly be a disaster if I was him I’d stay retired and maybe take up a tv gig somewhere. Not sky though please
Thats smart, give a man who abhors Sporting Directors the role of Sporting Director.
“No. I don’t know what director of football means. Is it somebody who stands in the road and directs play right and left? I don’t understand and I never did understand what it means.”
Accident waiting to happen.
Lol at giving Wenger career advice..
Yea, I’m sure he’s going to seek counsel from his neighbourhood postman on what new venture to take in a career of elite football management – a career he’s excelled at.
But yea “stay retired” because a guy working in Greggs says he would in the same position 😀
Wenger appears before the cameras to announce his first signings for PSG
“ I would like to introduce zee first signing I have made for PSG, please welcome ….
Sanago.
Also, we have sold Neymar, he would have killed ze Sanago”
“So if anything, we got ourselves a bargain. Simple math. You should practice it sometimes.”
Upstate,
Whilst you maybe a dab hand at simple arithmetic, business acumen is probably not your strong point.
Oh Charlie… you’re right he needs the money come back.
a career he’s excelled at.
Definitely hasn’t excelled at signings
I agree with Omar, Wenger is the biggest hypocrite ever if he takes a sporting director role after what he said. But I’d really love for him to join another big club and see how a few on here react. And I also agree with you Marko, Seeing how Wenger went about spending over the last 5 years should show anyone in a position of hiring him that he has lost it in that area. Went from Thierry’s and cazorla’s to xhaka and Mustafi. That being said he never was one for buying proper defenders. You never know, if he… Read more »
Let wenger take a big job in peace
If you think the last dozen years was embarrassing for the specialist is failure
Just grab a beer , sit back and watch wenger make a fool of himself even more at his new job
Wenger making the signings for Tuchel what could possibly go wrong
Graham62, wonder if the Adidas deal was something to do with keeping Ozil, at all costs?
Also read somewhere that wage bought the club some of his image rights, which are substantial., he is one of the more marketable players around believe it or not.
But can’t back either claim up for what is a massive wage, I hope there is more than meets the eye with that deal.
As for Wenger, cannot see an elite club touching him with a coaching role at least. Still see his future in Japan, a lot of mutual respect there
Also read somewhere that wage bought the club some of his image rights
Honestly doubt that. One thing doesn’t justify the other
Marko
It offsets the cost of his salary though
No I get that Joe I just think he had us over a barrel with our pants down and the idea that he gave up some of his image rights is ridiculous because it’d be worth more and it’s the kind of thing players usually don’t give up without a fight
Guess maybe he realized it was he accept that or he go to his only other choice , Turkey, and make half the money.
Just throwing theories out there. Who knows what the truth is.
So what is being said, ozil was given a new super contract essentially to sell shirts? Can’t have been performance related that’s for sure, even with his chances created stat being right up there.
If that is the case Stan k does love his moolah, but is way more stupid than he looks. Surely a competitive team brings more than one bloke with a massive online fanbase.
Truth is he took us to the cleaners and that’s that some people can try to justify it and try to spin it but it is what it is
Anyway you slice it, it’s a bad contract
Unless he lights it up for the rest of the deal and helps us win the Europa, league and CL in the next 3 years :-)))))
Who knows the truth. Wenger has his faults but this goes a bit beyond his well reported socialist wage structure. If it was down to Ivan, then Stewart Robson is right, he really is a shit negotiator.
Cannot see the new guys who were by then in place going along with that deal, and cannot see Stan signing that wage off without something more than Ozil is providing on the pitch to substantiate it.
My money is on commercials, and partial , even substantial offset of that wage via image rights. Nothing else makes any sense.
I am so damn keen for the game later. 6 am is the most reasonable time i can watch live apart from the first Saturday game usually 1030pm here. Though a few beers and a 2am game doesn’t go astray.
“I’m back people”
Half of Le Grove: Who?
Half of Le Grove: Yawn.
Cutter,
You and I both know there is a few people wetting their whistles over that announcement of sorts haha
Also I think xg is up there with pre assist for shite stats. Yeah it’s nice to look at some numbers, but the game isn’t played on paper. If that was the case we should beat everyone below us from last season and only lose to the top 4. Not going to include spuds in that, the shit kents. Also every shot from inside the 6 yard box with only the keeper to beat should be put in every time. Obviously that isn’t the case. I agree we have been lucky. But about damn time. We have quite the strike… Read more »
Where are you goober ?
Melbourne Utarse, you?
Who on here was telling us he was right by saying Tottenham isn’t that good and all are all hype?
2 points off the top and can go to top of the table with win v city next week
Oh right, that would be Bam
Now before anyone (pierre) goes old man crazy , I’m not a spurs lover just pointing out some of the posters are here get ahead of themselves after one or two matches
Like when someone says “ be careful what you wish for rings true” 3 matches into Emery’s reign
Spurs *spit do have a light squad, a couple of injuries and they will drop points.
Especially if those injuries are in midfield, Kane isn’t rounded enough as a player to drop deep and pick up the ball nor build play, and without him they may struggle for goals.
Hope this works.
Posted but didn’t appear. Is website really fixed?
Wilshire says in today’s DM if Wenger stayed, he would have stayed.
Nothing bonus for us with Wenger being fired imo.
Alex Cutter
Funny
Another*
I have just read the latest interview of Emery regarding January and future transfers. The first point he has made is that there have been currently no plans to bring in any new players in January. It is in his view far too early to do so. Also he is not a a great fan of doing business in that transfer window, which is more or less what most other top managers have stated in past. Second all transfers are decided at Arsenal by “Committee” between Emery, Sanhelli, Mislintat and the MD. Decisions are taken based on both “Sporting and… Read more »
Pedro
You seem overly concerned with wenger’s career post arsenal.
Continuing to refer him vis a vis arsenal is acceptable – for the time being at least- but the running commentary on all aspects of his life now that he’s left, is a little weird.
It’s as if your main concern is to prove that Wenger is a crap manager. This seems more important to you than anything else and your fear that he might be successful elsewhere is palpable.
He probably won’t but if he is, who cares?
Ever considered doing a PhD in wenger studies?
I dont think anyone has to prove that Wenger is a crap manager. Everything he has done since 2006 has been woeful in comparison to to assets at his disposal. The fact that opposition teams laugh their heads off whenever they draw us in CL KO rounds tells you all you need to know about his standing in world football
“Second all transfers are decided at Arsenal by “Committee” between Emery, Sanhelli, Mislintat and the MD. Decisions are taken based on both “Sporting and Commercial” considerations.” “Frankly I do not believe that Arsenal would have argued about paying Ramsey £200K pw ” Frankly I do believe that Arsenal would have argued about paying 200k pw. Its a committee now and it will be harder to come to a consensus than before. Look at the fan base. Use le grove as example. How many people think Ramsey is worth 200k pw? Match it with his commercial value to us, he is… Read more »
“Everything he has done since 2006 has been woeful in comparison to to assets at his disposal.”
Either you started following Arsenal very recently or you have not been paying attention closely to the club you claim to support.
Wenger earned legendary status in the eyes of the board from 2006-2011. The resources he had to work with and the circumstances he found himself in were appalling compared to what he achieved.
You could say he fell off the bridge from 2012 and became thick skinned because of his own success the previous 5 years.
No problem Mystic. Im sure the management at RM and Bayern are falling over themselves trying to hire him as their new manager. How can they have failed to notice his monumental achievements you speak of?
Global you realise what the last part of my previous post said? You also realise Wenger is 69years? How many 69year olds are in top jobs in football the world over? You just love a moan?
Tonight’s game has the making of being one of the games of the season ..there is sure to be goals,there is sure to be some very good offensive football and probably defensive frailties as both teams play an open game so consequently give opportunities to the opposition. Leicester’s problem has been consistency, you don’t really know what you will get from them..this could be the hardest game of our winning run ,we cannot afford.to be complacent. Difficult selection decisions for Emery…it could be telling if he leaves out Aubamayang,Ramsey and Ozil in favour of Mhkitaryan,iwobi and welbeck. Personally, I think… Read more »
mystic leaves I am pretty sure that both Sanhelli and Mislintat had input in negotiations over contracts with both Aubameyang and Mkhitaryan in January. By all accounts those salaries were around £180-200 K pw and of course Arsenal agreed a much higher salary to Ozil. So I don’t believe that Ramsey’s salary is the issue. My guess is that it is other demands being made e.g. a loyalty bonus and the agent’s personal demands, which are the problem. When you read that Can’s agent demanded and secured a commission of £16 million when the player joined Juventus you realise that… Read more »
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Still bugging… compelled to retype your pseudo and your email address every time you want to post something new.
mystic, are you serious? Between 2006 and 2011, what did he ‘achieve’? A champs league final in 2006, which we lost. Not a single trophy between 2005 and 2014 (both FA Cup wins). 2006 was arguably his last decent year. Before then, he was top drawer. No one can argue against that, and very few people will even try to. “You could say he fell off the bridge from 2012 and became thick skinned because of his own success the previous 5 years.” Crazy talk. Like the success of the league cup final in 2011? He gets immense credit for… Read more »
Let’s stop discussing Wenger. He is passe and no longer involved in the club.
We need to move on and look at present and future and not the past. Everyone
knows by now that we underperformed in the last decade.
Don’t post that on Untold.
Spurs *spit do have a light squad, a couple of injuries and they will drop points.
Especially if those injuries are in midfield, Kane isn’t rounded enough as a player to drop deep and pick up the ball nor build play, and without him they may struggle for goals
all this ifs and buts about totteham getting injured and players bailing on them is just boring now. for three straight season now the’ve be in top 4. isn’t it wise for people to consider maybe they are here to stay.
I think Mysticleaves was referring to the rebuilding of the team following the invincibles which was made up of players like ces,song and cliche mixed with bargain buys of rvp,ade,nasri,eduardo,sagna and still managed to compete with Chelsea and United who were spending fortunes without winning silverware. He basically did back then what pochettino is being lauded for with Tottenham now …. Built a team on limited resources without winning silverware… We will see if Tottenham continue to follow the same path as Arsenal back then by finding it difficult to hold onto their best players as the likes of kane,Eriksen,Alli… Read more »
Jack Wilshere’s comments about Arsenal just highlights how we lost out way.
He admits he would still be keeping out physios busy had Wenger stayed because Wenger believed in him. Everyone bar Wenger and Un na could see that Wilshere was far gone.
People wonder why Wenger keeps coming up?
It’s because it’s only 4 months since he left and stories like this keep memoeries fresh.
leno bellarin mustaffi holding monreal torria ramsey xhaka ozil Auba laca with gray and morgan not playing Emmery could get away with the above selection . If Gray were playing i might think more about using iwobi and welbeck as I did like the defensive intensity they gave us in winning the ball back in the last away game but I would really like to see Ozil in the 10 position with the two very good forwards we have in front of him offering two very different threats, I know Ozil is a lazy mother but he does have that… Read more »
Spuds have dug a massive hole for themselves
That stadium debt is too much for a medium sized club that has limited marketing potential.
Poch is helping them punch above their weight and we all know that they have to start selling soon. It’s ineveitable.
“mystic, are you serious? Between 2006 and 2011, what did he ‘achieve’? A champs league final in 2006, which we lost. Not a single trophy between 2005 and 2014 (both FA Cup wins).” You talk like a fan and I don’t blame you. I would also want My club to win many trophies. But there’s the fans and there’s the board. Our parameters for success are different. The board, after the stadium move, signed up Wenger to a 5 year deal. His mandate was to get top 4 in 3 of the 5 years at most whilst repaying 30m every… Read more »
manager* not club.
Emirates
I get that it’s your opinion about the agent. But I just believe the committee looked at the value (both commercial and sporting) in paying Ramsey 200-250 a week and felt it wasn’t enough.
Remember the “committee” that agreed the packages of Ozil, Miki and Laca and Auba are lacking 2 very important people now. Wenger and Gazidis.
Moreover, we could have got Miki and Auba on lower wages if they werent already on the wages we offered them and they accepted
Emirates, let’s also remember that the deal was WITHDRAWN. Ramsey himself said they thought they was a headway in the deal. Meaning the major details–including the agent’s demands–were kind of agreed. Look it’s all conjecture at this moment but you wouldn’t just look at everything that played out and say Arsenal baulked at the agent’s demands.
Mystic
“The money was to be paid mostly from player sales.”
Please provide an article that supports this claim. That is, that this is what the board “mandated” of Wenger.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2801561-lucas-torreira-the-unconventional-route-to-the-top-of-arsenals-little-terrier “Initially, he didn’t play much. The coaching staff thought he might have a niggling foot injury so he was sent for a checkup. It was discovered that he had several warts on one of his feet. He had been playing through the pain without mentioning it to anyone. “He couldn’t even walk,” said Roberto Druda, the Pescara scout who signed him. “He played on for months and months.”” Makes me love him even more. Hard. As. Nails. Need to protect him for EPL games and the most important cup games…. we can’t overplay him and burn him out like… Read more »
It could be argued that wenger got back on the trophy trail when he finally had decent money to spend on players like ozil and Sanchez. That’s not to say that some of his signings weren’t rank….if he had taken the plunge and bought Lacazette to replace giroud a couple of years earlier as was being reported and signed a Torriera type midfielder to replace Ramsey to play with 2 holding midfielders ,We potentially could have made a serious challenge for the title…… But of course he continued with playing Ramsey in a 2 man midfield and giroud as our… Read more »
Pierre Spurs current wage scales are well below those of the other top six clubs in epl. That is understandable, because their current revenue streams are significantly less. Their club will have difficulty in the foreseeable future in altering their status not because they will not be able to match commercial revenues of their competitors, but because they have a mega ‘overspend’ on the stadium with almost certainly a huge debt situation. I think that it is clear that the club unless sold will become increasingly uncompetitive in the EPL. My only concern about Arsenal is what will be the… Read more »
Bamford, I might not be able to see everything I said there rolled into one article but I think if you tried to look, you will see all of them on different articles on the net. And frankly, I can’t look for them now
Mystic
That’s a very fair assessment of the latter half of the wenger years.
Balogun, another U18 product from our Academy scoring for fun. Great to see that our academy continues to produce talent for our first team to consider. Surely he’ll be promoted to the U23s? I like Welbeck but if we can get £15m-£20m for him… I would consider doing so and bring in a talented younger CB in the Mavropanos template… because Chambers, over at Fulham seems to be falling over a cliff… and promote Eddie Nketiah into the third striker role and give him game time. Chambers is a strange one. After his promising loan spell and cameos for us… Read more »
I think Mysticleaves was referring to the rebuilding of the team following the invincibles which was made up of players like ces,song and cliche mixed with bargain buys of rvp,ade,nasri,eduardo,sagna and still managed to compete with Chelsea and United who were spending fortunes without winning silverware.
really Pierre? so who was winning the silverware then. mancity?
Think tonight we’ll see
Cech
Bellerin Mustafi Holding Monreal
Torreira Xhaka
Mkhi Özil Welbeck
Lacazette
Wouldn’t be surprised if Aubameyang, Torreira and Iwobi are benched because of long international trips and little training.
Mystic It was Wenger himself who said that we had to sell our best players in order to cover our costs during that time period. He said this in April of 2016, when facing the prospect of a large, organized fan protest. See the article below. Allow me to point out that his saying that we needed to do this does not support the claim that the board mandated that he do this. These are two entirely different things. Wenger is and was a frugal French economist and he had nearly complete control over our transfer business; it is just… Read more »
Sorry, here’s that article:
“Arsene Wenger reveals Arsenal stadium loan contingent on him remaining manager for five years”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/04/29/arsene-wenger-blames-difficult-climate-created-by-arsenal-fans-a/
Alexander
“That’s a very fair assessment of the latter half of the wenger years.”
No, it’s not. It’s likely a misrepresentation of his circumstances from 2006 to 2011. And it in no way deals with what his circumstances were from 2012 to 2018.
It would be more accurate to say that it’s the assessment of the second half of his tenure that his defenders most like, because it seeks to justify his failures.
@Dream10
Is Cech not injured?
£350k a week for 3 years works out at around £54.6 million. Bearing in mind no one else( apart from Beijing Wanderers) can afford those wages or would even consider giving him that amount of money, it beggars belief how they came to this conclusion.Wenger and Gazidis should be hung, drawn and quartered for this decision alone.Can someone explain this to me in layman’s terms. Graham in layman’s terms means you take off the overcoat and other preenings, hang in upside down by his (hind) legs spread out . If want to use the symbolic prick for posterity can tie… Read more »
There was absolutely an austerity period for the club around the stadium build and for a few years after due to the debt and some of the constraining commercial deals we had which we were a bit forced into accepting cause we were desperate but once that period was over there were no excuses. I would say that around the 10/11 or at the latest 11/12 season just before Van Persie had enough he had no excuses there was money there he was just afraid to spend it and compete.
I would also like to point out that even during the austerity period that there was still more money available that could have been been spent on the squad. My understanding is that there was always a stipulation that a certain amount had to be kept in the coffers for rainy days but the actual debt repayment was only about 20 million per season. Basically the idea that we HAD to continuiously sell our best players year in year out and inadequately replace them or that we had to hoard THAT much in the cash reserves was unnecessary
The former Los Blancos midfielder is currently working in Turkey as Besiktas assistant manager, but Madrid president Florentino Perez has identified him as the perfect man to turn the club’s fortunes around.
That’s Guti not Wenger being lined up for the Madrid job apparently. Also worth noting the Besiktas assistant not the Man City assistant
Leicester City have been playing 4-2-3-1 much of this season, with Wilfried Ndidi and Nampalys Mendy as the two holding mids, Maddison, Iheanacho and Pereira as the three attacking mids, and Vardy up top.
That doesn’t seem all that menacing, but the two CMs make for a solid, decent pairing.
Complacency is our biggest enemy tonight. Everyone is expecting us to win tonight…and we can’t stroll on thinking the game is already won… and fall behind. We need to start the game with intensity and fire and stamp our authority in the match from the opening whistle.
I want us to be as ruthless as we were versus Fulham and start really punishing teams. Only by punishing teams do you start planting seeds of doubt in the mins of our opponents coming up.
*minds