Grab the bloody popcorn, Arsene Wenger is coming BACK to football.
The man is recharged. He’s ready to go. He wants revenge on you. Ok, maybe not the last one.
“I believe [I will] start again on 1 January. I don’t know [where] yet,”
“There are associations, national teams, it could be also in Japan.
“From my 22 years at Arsenal, I have big experience on different levels. There are enquiries from all over the world.”
Is it a coincidence he’s talking to Bild? Can he smell the blood of Niko Kovač in the water? It’s worth remembering that Bayern Munich were sniffing around Wenger before he came to Arsenal back in the day. They’ve been making some pretty average choices when it comes to coaches since Pep left, so maybe there’s an option there?
I personally think he should go in at association level, or maybe international. He’ll not do that, he’ll go for a power job. His vendetta is against the notion he’s too old to rock it at the highest level. Reality is it’s absolutely true, but at the right club, with the right backroom team, maybe he could do something of note.
Also, total banter that a man who said no value can be found in January… is now touting himself in January. Sly dog…
Thierry Henry did his first prezzer. He interestingly said that Pep was his reference when it comes to coaching.
“Pep is the reference, for me, I’m not saying for everyone. There’s no right or wrong; that’s the reference for me. We learnt how to play the game when I went to Barcelona under him.”
I mean, I’m not surprised. Pep is the best in the world, has been since he burst on the scene. If you want to play attacking football that has ruthless attention to detail, he’s always going to be your god. Thierry also made mention of Wenger.
“Arsene unlocked a lot of stuff in my mind, made me understand what it was to be a professional, what it was to perform. I will never forget that. You know the relationship I had with him so I will always carry some of the stuff that he was doing.”
Fair comment, he was never going to say he was using him as inspiration now. Only people like Keown or Bobby Pires say things like that with a straight face these days. Thierry certainly looks the part in front of the cameras. That job is going to be so tough. He’ll get an initial bump from the players, but after that, it’s all about how his ideas are transmitted and how well he gets along with the players. Very exciting times for him.
Great news on the injury front… AMN is back in training, and so is Laurent Koscielny. If anyone is going to get our defending back on an even keel, it’s that guy. He’s now 33 years old. Incredible. Where did the time go? I miss him. I miss the 29-year-old him. But whatever, he’ll be well received, especially with Liverpool coming up!
Right, short post today, see you in the comments.
P.S. My podcast equipment, STOLEN. Can you believe that shit?
Pierre you know exactly what I mean, but you’ve always been – and will always be – a little prick.
Actually Joe ,You are right,the fa cup is not enough but it is better than nothing …
In the last 65 years in 48 of those years Arsenal have won nothing….
Joe
“Pierre how many league titles have city won in that time?”
the same as Arsenal…3…..
No champions league and one fa cup ……
Leg End
Ok explain yourself what do you mean when you say that city and Liverpool were too busy winning other trophies….
The way I read it is you feel that winning the fa cup is worthless as they were too busy winning the pre m and champions league ever other season which ,of course, is not the case.
Pierre
Wenger went 13 seasons without winning anything all on his own
Pierre
Man city’s relevance is only a decade old.
They were relegated not that long ago.
But keep comparing us. Makes us look really bad if you think city have won as many leagues as we have since wenger has been in charge
Joe
“The domestic cups were a lot harder to win in GGs era. Why?Because the foriegn players don’t care about the fa cups like English players did back then and before.”
Considering the Arsenal team have been full of foreign players under wenger that comment doesn’t make sense does it.
So how did wenger with his foreign players manage to win so many trophies if they didn’t care about winning the FA cup .
Graham
Only yesterday Joe pointed out that Portsmouth and Wigan had won the FA cup recently so maybe you should sort it out with him….
Joe said it devalues the competition as Wigan and Portsmouth have won it recently.
You say it added value to the competition when lesser teams won it …
You 2 need to sort it out .
Pierre
Have you had a dodgy round today?
You’re being extra dogmatic this afternoon.
Pierre
You are,and always have been, a strange character when it comes to your perceptions and outlook on Football.
Pierre
Because every team was/is full of foreign players so wenger’s teams were playing v teams with foreign players and we had some of the best French players around and DB10 which were honestly no match for the English passion for the fa cup.
Pierre
Do you think fa cup is important for top teams these days?
Do you think Ferguson would be happy with 3 fa cups in 12 years?
Pep and Barca? City?
Real Madrid?
Barca?
Juve?
The 4 fa cups wenger won were great because he was challenging/winning the league when he won them(3 of them anyway)
The last 3 do not constitute a successful season for a top team.
Sorry.
Joe
Turn it in. You’ve mugged off your own point
We were the first side to ever field a full foreign matchday squad. We were still winning titles and cups with that squad agaisnt majority British sides
Don’t be stupid. Let the point go because you’re hurtling towards Bamford territory here
Joe
You aren’t trying to compare us with united or Real Madrid are you? Silly boy. Those teams have been winning european cups for over 50years…. we might be London’s most successful side but we were never in that bracket. Never
Un
I disagree.
My point stands
Fa cup was harder to win as it was valued more before the PL era influx of foreign players
Un
Did we move to Emirates to win fa cups and comepwtw with Everton or
Did we move to compete with the best.
We would have if we removed wenger when we moved in
Un
Did the fa cup mean more in the 60-70-80s or now
Why do even championship teams play reserves in the fa cup these days?
Never happen in the 70s
Un
Atletico compete v Madrid because they have a proper manager
Joe
The only reason we ever got a look in with the best was because if Wenger. Not despite him. Before that we were occasionally title winners but mostly loitering around the upper end of mid table. Nowhere near Madrid and united and juventus levels. The stadium didn’t change that.
Kroenke comes in, titles stop.
Joe
Because if the champions league
It’s killed every other cup competition
There used to be the uefa cup
The cup winners cup
The World Cup was a lot better too.
Between the champions league and globalisation, most of footballs most prestigious cup competitions have suffered an obscene amount degradation
Un
Bergkamp was signed before anyone knew who wenger was
We won 2 legaue trophies and a euro cup in the 8 years before wenger.
3 in the 22 since
We had great players before wenger. All our great players in the wenger era left because of wenger.
Between the champions league and globalisation, most of footballs most prestigious cup competitions have suffered an obscene amount degradation
That’s all we’ve been saying.
It’s Pierre who thinks the fa cup is the greatest trophy in the universe
Joek
‘Because every team was/is full of foreign players so wenger’s teams were playing v teams with foreign players and we had some of the best French players around and DB10 which were honestly no match for the English passion for the fa cup.’
So which is it?
Foreigners didn’t care about the fa cup?
Foreigners in our team were he only ones that cared about it?
You are dumb as fuck and you tie yourself up daily cos you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Un
The last dozen years at the Emirates could have been very very different if we had dumped wenege after the 05 fa cup and brought in a proper ambitious football manager not a bad accounting manager like wenger
We could have won 3 leagues
During the first decade we had the best players. Mostly foreign. The level of our foreign players wasn’t going to be put done by the English passion for the fa cup of some championship level club
The last 3 fa cups? I’ve already said it. We were lucky to win.
It’s not hard to understand stefanie. Unless you’re a daft cunt like you
Yawns
Un Whatever happened around the time kronke took over with David Dein leaving around that time has done us no favours . Kronke was happy to let wenger make all/most of the decisions and in the end he was answering to no one and now we are where we are,which is not in a terrible place but a club that needs direction to get us challenging again. Is Emery the man to do it ,I hope so ….he looks like he has a passion to succeed but he will find it difficult as we won’t compete with United and city… Read more »
Charlie boy
LMFAO
Tiny
Found the caps lock button? Legend.
Joe
“All our great players in the Wenger era left because of Wenger”
100% true.
They all knew things would never change.
If you were a great player, wouldn’t you want to get out?
Jamie
Fair play to you. That’s the point smart people go to the real Thailand like Rayong.
They skip the tourist traps like Charlie went to to see the real life in Thailand.
Mix with real locals and learn the true culture.
Go to the villages up north and north east to find real Thai hospitality not just Phi phi island we’re James bond wasn’t filmed.
I do feel Joe and co do go way over the top about not crediting any iota of success to Wenger
Isn’t it lovely talking up Wenger?(lol!).
Onwards and upwards.
Fact is, he’s Arsenal most successful manager no matter how sour it turned out towards the end, the constant degrading of anything he did just reeks of agenda
Batitusta
1996-2006 – 8/10.
2006-2012 – 5/10.
2012-2018 – 3/10.
Ten years of credit, six years of stagnation,six years of regression.
Onwards and upwards.
Your Comment Here
GG brought the glory back to arsenal. Not wenger
The real truth and more successful given the time period including a Euro trophy.
No answer to that Pierre
Bats
Most successful. He was also here double what anyone else was and 12 years of it undeserved
What if champman and Whitaker who both had 2 leagues hadn’t died while Managing arsenal ? And give them 22 years at arsenal. They would have surpassed wenger
If GG was given another 14 years at arsenal you don’t think he would have surpassed wenger ?
He’s only the most successful because he was here the longest. A lot of it undeserved
Batitusta
45% of his reign deserved credit and our respect.
27.5% was questionable.
27.5% deserved our condemnation.
Statistically speaking!
Oh yeh, onwards and upwards.
Alison even won 2 leagues and had a world war stop the league during his tenure.
Wenger might be most successful in “numbers” but if you break it down he isn’t our greatest manager or successful
Unlike wenger , Ferguson deserved his long tenure. He was a winner to the end and is the most successful and greatest Man U manager. Without a doubt.
Wenger. Not so much.
Batitusta
Basically, for 55% of his reign, he underachieved.
I hear you all really but my point is a lot of the commentary on Wenger’s time here is almost always negative and over the top too.
I followed the George Graham era quite closely and there are some really great memories and THAT European trophy but and this is my personal opinion too, Wenger’s first 10 years tops it by quite a mile
Graham
He underachieved?? It’s onky perceived that way because he set the bar so high for himself. He raised your expectations. He gave more titles than Graham and built better sides. Don’t try telling me that arsenal of 89/91 was a better team then arsenal of 98/04
So TonyD bought his wife from a Thai pimp in Rayong on a James Bond movie set? Or am I getting myself mixed up.
TonyD “GG brought the glory back to arsenal. Not wenger,No answer to that Pierre” Actually there is an answer because originally,as far as I’m concerned, Bertie Mee brought the glory back to The Arsenal and then George Graham and then Arsene Wenger and then hopefully Unai Emery… I will be forever grateful to Bertie Mee for the success he brought to the club when I was a kid ….being at Highbury for the Fairs cup final, white Hart lane when we clinched the title and Wembley to see Charlie George hit the winner was a great time to support the… Read more »
Dissenter
You can discuss Wenger any time you like, and you can say the most critical things about him any time you like. This is Le Grove, not Untold.
Wow ok this place is like a children’s playground at the moment, catch you guys on matchday
TonD likes George Graham more than Wenger
Pierre likes Wenger more than George Graham.
Oh là là
Different strokes for different folks
Anyone else having to type their user name and e mail in every time they want to write a new post??
Batistuta please do not insult children’s playgrounds around the world , they conduct themselves with more dignity than many on here
Every one has an agenda- the worst is Graham. Can any genuine supporter begrudge our team winning trophies . He just goes up to stupid extent to belittle our success because of his dislike for one man. I have also wanted Arsene out for the last few years but still enjoyed our three FA trophies which I am sure the Sp’rs and pool fans would give up their balls for.,
The ban on English clubs in Europe deprived Graham of a crack at the European Cup in 89.
Graham’s trophy haul was far more complete than Wenger’s.
Graham bagging all the domestic trophies and winning a European trophy tops anything Wenger achieved.
Funny it’s a children’s playground when you post that goes against their own views.
Bats I gave you a reasoned answer as to why I don’t believe wenger is the greatest or most succeful bringing yo Alison Whitaker GG and Chapman
Sorry if you’re mature enough to handle a difference of opinion. You’re right up there with the maturity of 60 year old Pierre
Oh Pierre I’d say it was GG who brought the glory back to arsenal as we went 17 years after mee won it
But you’re right bats.
I can’t wait for match day as intl break kills this place
It’s the last two years of our club where we really slid down. But people forget that even these two years have been par with the average position of teams like Spurs and Pool – we have had great managers which is natural given our history, it has been Graham and then undoubtedly Arsene who have turned our club into a world brand name
“Anyone else having to type their user name and e mail in every time they want to write a new post??”
I’ve been having the same experience
Some many pussies on le-fucking-grove……
it’s like some AKB’S here have managed to forget wenger managed to go 13 yrs without a league trophy and about 9yrs without a cup trophy….
fucking AKB’S
Those reports of a 40 million pound budget for next summer are ridiculous to say the least. No way it takes into account the Adidas money or obviously our league position. I don’t know where the reports came from or the thinking behind it but it makes no sense
Red,
“The ban on English clubs in Europe deprived Graham of a crack at the European Cup in 89”
I doubt that Graham would have been able to handle the AC Milan teams of the early 1990s though but the freaking bin dippers denies us a chance to compete in Europe.
Doesn’t seem to be anyone else reporting it. Sounds like a spud trying to stir some shit
The 89 team would have given any team a match.
Including ac Milan
We would have beaten them 1 nil. To the Arsenal!
The longest period for any Arsenal manager to go without a trophy is Wenger.
Arsenal are the most successful (appearances) club not to win the Champions league and the first to concede 200 goals in the Competition.
Nw9gooner
It’s the last two years of our club where we really slid down.
You’ve got to be kidding. The last 2 years only? Are you sure? Are you conveniently forgetting our drubbing to manure (8-2) or the 6-0 loss to Chelski no less on AW 1000th game for the club or more importantly the severe drubbings we got at the hands of BM in the CL?
Marko
Those are the AST’s figures. Their estimates have us realizing an operating loss this fiscal year and have us with 40m for transfer spending in the summer. This was all over Twitter, but there are obviously questions about how accurate the AST’s figures are.
G62 has no agenda. He is telling it as it is. Whether you like it or not, you must accept thst this is what has happened during AW tenure. Yes AW was successful in his first 10 years. And we are all greatful for what he has done for the club. The sublime football, pushing for real sporting perfection (the ban on alcohol and pushing players to be their best). After that, power and the fear of being sacked corrupted him completely. All you have to look at is how he would belittle anyone’s involvement in making improvements to the… Read more »
Is the AST the same organisation pissed at the Kroenke takeover?
Cesc
Yes, the Arsenal Supporters Trust. I don’t think they are skewing the numbers because they have an agenda, though, if that’s what you’re thinking.
I think they’re probably working with some fairly conservative assumptions, though.
Bamford
They are fighting (A losing fight unfortunately) to have the privilege to have the opportunity to have some part in the great club that is The Arsenal.
This cunt Kroenke is stripping this away from them.
I am so pissed off that this bastard now has full control of the club. He has single handedly destroyed the history of how this club was run by his unlimited greed.
NW9gooner I can assure you, I have no “agenda”. You have to accept that there are different levels of anti-Wenger supporters. I’m about a 9.5 on the Richter scale. Believe me there are many others who rate higher than me. Winning 3 FA Cups did little to satisfy my needs. You see NW9, it’s never been about the winning of trophies for me, it’s all been about a manager and club underachieving on a consistent basis for far too long. I will always fight my corner, even if others on here find it boring and predictable. I’m too set in… Read more »
Their estimates have us realizing an operating loss this fiscal year and have us with 40m for transfer spending in the summer. Now I get that it’s the AST and I get that we’ll be at a loss because of Wenger’s final two seasons but where they pulled 40 million from I don’t know. I mean it looks like shit stirring if you ask me it’s October 18 and they’re saying that we’ll have 40 million to spend next summer and our final league position and new sponsorship deals won’t matter? Nah I don’t know. Keep in mind that we… Read more »
Emery had the players still at Colney play a full game against the U23’s today.
I really like the whole approach he has, he knows much more needs to be extracted from this set of players.
CA
He has by now surely realised how woefully undercoached our players were since he has taken over coaching duties at the club.
40m before Europa payout this year
Before possible CL qualifying money
Before adidas
That 40m quickly goes to 120-150 with player sales as well.
And a whole new regime to spend it
Glory Arsenal!
Pedro
If Wenger wants to manage, good luck to him. Personally, I can’t see him cutting it at a top club anymore.
Agreed on Kos. I’m glad he’s back and I predict he will figure this season if he stays fit
Regarding the transfer kitty, Emery will spend what he’s given. If he spends £40 million, then that’s what the club will have made available.
At least we know 100% now from Wenger’s own mouth, that he was indeed responsible for all of the transfers in, out and extensi
At least we know 100% now from Wenger’s own mouth, that he was indeed responsible for every single transfer – in, out and for the extensions also. He said that he had full control on everything. That’s the actual dream of any manager ever. And he managed to fk it up. He chose to keep Almunia as our main keeper after Lehmann, he kept on giving new deals to Jenkinson, he picked Gervinho instead of Hazard, he turned Ibrahimovic and Yaya Toure away, he got fkin Kalstrom with a broken back on a half a year loan?!?!?! He made the… Read more »
Cesc Appeal
October 18, 2018 23:18:29
“Emery had the players still at Colney play a full game against the U23’s today.”
Any insight on the score or game???
Raptora
You ain’t lying there…
Uh oh Raptora
You’re gonna get it now from
All the Akbs haha
🙂
Preach brother preach.
Love what you’re saying
Wenger was a leach, sucking arsenal dry for the last dozen years
All right, time for this AKB to stand up for Mr Wenger!
While I can square with the fact that he is past it; I can’t stand idly while you folks spit your bile.
What are you folks, slim shady wannabes.
P.S. Give me a sec to dive into my bunker before those missiles come flying my way.
What a surprise dingbat le grunt blogetta starts with the usual anti Wenger Shyte
Everyone in football must be crazy to listen Wenger is his rhetoric
The blogger couldn’t manage a subbuteo team let alone keep banging on about how he has the answers for all things football
He will quickly go to reference pep so that it makes him sound clever
He will also talk about a list of managers from poch to naggelsman forgetting to mention they win fuk all
Seriously you are a total dickhead and know as much about football as a dodo
COYG
Thank you Arsene for confirming what we all knew. Total control over every facet of the club and he still arrogantly promotes his own self worth. Only someone with narcissistic tendencies would come out and say the things he does. No guilt, no shame and absolutely no comprehension of what he has done to the club. “But you must respect and credit him for what he did for the club”…….I did!!!! The problem is that the respect I once had evaporated and eventually disappeared because of his inabilities to act on the obvious. Just a pity that some on here… Read more »
raptora
Well written post.
Nothing more to say.
Raptora
That may all be true and he certainly should take the blame but there are questions to be raised from your conclusions.
If he was so against spending big money then how come he gave sol Campbell a £100k a week contract when only united would pay that in England at the time. I’m sure it was the highest contract at the time too in the prem.
How come he spent £40m on ozil and £35m on xakha and mustafi once the puma deal came in and we negotiated a better deal from emirates?
I mean the refusal to pay good money for Suarez is unforgivable to me as is the rufusal to do what was necessary to keep rvp and add quality around him. I’m just not so sure that it was all on him. Yes he signed some awful players but the successes he had still outweigh the negatives
Without him we’d never have had that glorious period from 96-06 and I’ll always remember him fondly for that
He’s also a really nice man. Met him too and he was a lovely fella
Pierre “I would imagine you would have had to sit at home listening on the radio as I’m sure mummy wouldn’t have let you out by yourself back in the day…….” Too busy studying and working in those days – a concept clearly lost on you. Started life in orphanages and then adopted by a working class family at age 6 To quote Graham62 it was onwards and upwards from there. Got my first part time job at age 11 and never looked back. So no I never had the luxuries you had but supported The Arsenal for 53 years.… Read more »
Un na naai
There you go again.
“Without him we’d never have had the glorious period from 96-06”
Is that the best you can do?
Keep taking the pills.
Un
Wasn’t it between ancelotti and wenger?
Think ancelotti would have given us a few good years as well :-))).
“Without Alexander Fleming, we’d never have had that glorious period of inventing penicillin”
Donald Trump and Arsene Wenger would make a great team.
Joe
Ancelotti would have been my pick to take over Wenger, BTW.
But Emery is making me eat my thoughts.
Graham62
Nope, but Obama and Wenger would be a good fit. (I don’t like Obama; think he is weak sauce)
Morinho and Trump……now that would be awesome. Scratch that, I think Tony Pulis and Trump would be even better. They wear caps and they want to fight!
wetter we like it or not we are now the new Seville in town always flatter to deceive. beat some average team at-home and we are in for the title. only to be humiliated by the big boys over and over again.
So boring on here…..same old posters righteously repeating the same old narrative. Don’t some of you get bored typing exactly the same message about the old manager. Sure he’s in the news but there is no insight and interest repeating the same message. We’ve had literally years of this.
He has gone, Legrove can move on, or not?
Will Emery go with the team that beat Fulham or will Ozil be found a place?Really hope Ramsey stays on the bench, a great impact sub.
raptora Well said. Un na nai If I recall correctly the £40 m was our record breaking transfer (!!!). What we are saying is that AW never made the effort to do more. The 2 things that made that Ozil was bought was that a) he was bought on the last day of the TW; like most of the purchases we did. b) he was in fact a bargain purchase. No one went for Ozil other than us. RM I am sure would have wanted more for him but were desperate to sell him and recoup some money. We jumped… Read more »
I have maintained that Kols doesn’t make a lot of difference in our defense. Not these days anyway. With him around and available, that defense has struggled in the recent past. I recall Pogba getting the better of him last season.
In any case, at 33, and after a major Achilles tear and frequent calf niggles, he is not likely to be as good as he ever was.
Time to groom his successor.
Bob N16
Arsenal are moving on.
Le-grove is an opinion blog and just so you know I, like many others, had to listen to the same old boring “in Arsene we trust” rhetoric for ten years.
We don’t all conform to your ideals.
Believe it or not it’s what makes this blog tick.
Onwards and upwards.
Maybe Emery will go with the same team that tonked Fulham.
Always goals in this one.
3-1 Arsenal.
Two more for Lacazette.
You’re becoming a dinosaur Graham….you don’t have to be history.
Opinion is what it’s about. But when it’s constantly a repeated opinion…..well, draw your own conclusions.