Arsenal rout Fulham

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The MIGHTY Arsenal powered through to another win, climbing the table to crazy nosebleed heights. Yes people, we are 4th, a mere two points off the top of the table and it’s October. Wow, wow, wow!

There was a lot to enjoy from our trip to Craven Cottage, firstly, Emery rotated his squad hard leaving key names like Ramsey and Auba on the bench. Mesut Ozil didn’t even make the squad for some reason. Surely he’s not ducking Fulham away? I know it’s only minor, but Wenger really was poor at rotating his squads. He played the same team over and over in the league, which led to December breakdowns. It was great to see our manager trust some of the fringe players, and the gamble paid off.

Same story, a first half that wasn’t really much to write home about. We took the lead when Lacazette made space for himself and scored on the turn. We then slipped up just before halftime after Nacho Monreal gave the ball away, Schurlle took the chance, chipping Leno.

The second half we really found our feet. Lacazette scored a second with a blistering shot from about 25 yards. Things started getting sexy when Auba and Ramsey came onto the pitch. The Welshman scored an unbelievable goal that broke from our goal area. There was a sexy backheel from Bellerin, there was a header from Ramsey. A beautiful swept pass from Mikhi. Topped off with a perfect back of the heel finish. Goal of the month contender without doubt!

If that’s what peak Emeryball looks like, feed me it to me all day long.

There was still time for Auba to bang in two goals. One came from a tight angle in the box. The other was him breezing onto a through ball.

5-1 was a rout. Fulham really did get outclassed and outworked in the second half. I think what was most satisfying about it was simple: we should sweep sides away like that, and we did.

There were still concerns. We’re porous at the back. Fulham had some great chances in the first half, easily getting in behind us. Lucky for us, they had an off day in front of goal. However, outside a few dodgy moments, our midfield looked very good. Torreira and Xhaka looked very comfortable sitting at the base. Arsenal reverted to a 4-4-2 for this match, which looked like a 4-2-2-2 at times. We looked at ease, and that was resting three of our best players.

The keeper is growing in confidence, he made a really good save in the first half, and his skill on the ball really is exciting to watch. The defence looks more comfortable with him at the back, let’s hope he keeps the confidence going so there’s no way back for Cech.

Lacazette was excellent again. He’s such a grafter up front. What he lacks in physical presence he more than makes up for by being a constant pain in the backside. His two finished were world class. More to come from him as the season cranks on.

Finally, it was great to hear the fans sing ‘we’ve got our Arsenal back.’ I found it super weird that a section of the fanbase were up in arms about that song, because for once, it seems the fanbase are unified behind the direction of the club. People are happy, the team is winning, and the club is progressing in the right direction. Top 4 feels like a realistic target this year. Let’s just hope Mourinho stays at United past December, and let’s keep ’em crossed Spurs continue to look average.

9 wins on the bounce. The head of steam is gathering. We’re going to be in good shape for that Liverpool game if we can tighten the backline.

 

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  1. Ivan

    Any class that was there left ManU with SAF.

    Mou instigates this media war, and board just lowered thier lever to his and did the same thing.

    Surley they had private conversations.
    I bet self proclaimed special one is no good listener for critique driven conversations unless he is the one who isnt on the reciving end.

    This tug od war will take a lot of collateral.
    Board trying to save face for flushing money and bringing Mou onboard (especially while its known that SAF whas against it).

    And on another hand Mou who is on beserk mode alienating, picking fights with everyone while still reciving support from ex players and probbably good part of fan base.

  2. Champagne charlie

    “To be fair, a lot of people withdrew their support, namely the match-going fans.“

    This isn’t equitable. Those guys withdrew their money from the club which is entirely their choice not to be financially burdened by something they oppose. I very much doubt they swapped their tickets for QPR.

    China, Michael24 et al are talking about supporting other clubs in place of Arsenal, and this is where support is really questionable. You can disagree, or even detest how a club is being run by certain individuals but Arsenal is an institution and as such its not the people you’re ever truly in support of.

    I hate Stan Kroenke, but Arsenal came first and his presence hasn’t stopped me supporting the club even though i consider him a leech and a hindrance to our successes. Switching teams is a truly pathetic display of ‘support’ for a club. This is basic football fan stuff, 8 year olds would tease one another about switching teams on a whim.

  3. Bob N16

    Namesake Bob, what is it with you?

    Your only agenda appears to be the highlighting of inadequacies of English players. What’s that all about? I am genuinely interested.

    Should you be taking issue with the quality of grass roots coaching, ‘too many foreigners taking our jobs’ etc?

  4. TheBlaster

    Club membership is not free. Season tickets are amongst the most expensive in the land. Of course you have the absolute right to keep your money in the bank and just watch match of the day if the club keeps repeatedly ignoring fans.

    When Wenger came up against Guardiola’s Barca, you saw that there was another level to which he wasn’t going to rise without some change. Talented players heavily coached vs talented players left pretty much to figure things out themselves. It wasn’t a time for dogmatism, but that’s how it panned out. Barca taught pressing and transitions and we didn’t. Henry is a bright bloke. Saw the writing on the wall, and left a short while after. That was a long time ago. Mourinho took over at Chelsea and we started getting pushed away from the top and left behind. Like a team stubbornly is i g A to Z books when everyone else is moving to Google Maps. After that when we were in the CL or even the League it was a different feeling. That if the draw went right and other teams lost points or got injuries we’d win things. Not because we were better than them.

  5. Marko

    Charlie considering the amount of arguments we’ve had about transfer windows in the past under Wenger usually me complaining about yet another failed window under Arsene you saying stuff like great start to the window let’s see how it ends and then when it ends poorly making some sort of an excuse for it and pretending that it’s enough it’s a bit hypothetical of you to say we’ve had a poor summer transfer window and that we should have done more I mean I partly agree but you weren’t really that critical in summers past. I would say that under Arsene we probably failed every single transfer window in the last 10-15 years under him easily and we have so many issues within the squad and the notion that we sort out all those issues in one summer with a world cup on, a transfer window closing early for once and all on a Europa League budget is asking for much

  6. raptora

    I didn’t watch Valencia – Barcelona yesterday but I saw that Gabriel got an 8 for his performance. Mental that he has been a starter for a pretty decent Valencia side and he was a mental wreck for us. Wonder if Emery would have gotten the best out of him.

    Vermaelen started for Barca also. Mental that this is his 5-th year there and he’s only managed to play in 27 La Liga games and 44 in total. One of the best decisions we’ve taken is selling him when we did.

  7. Leedsgunner

    Champagne

    I think we’re going to same place in that we both agree January is important. I think you see it as important because the glass was filled half empty in the summer… and I see it as half full and a good start. Fair dues!

    Yes, I agree Welbeck and Ramsey’s contracts should have been sorted btu hopefully we’ve learned from that and we will sort out Auba, Lacazette and Iwobi’s contract will be extended before crisis point. Although by the time Auba has to renew I would hope Nketiah is firmly estabilshed in the first team and keeping the older strikers sharp because of the competition.

  8. Bob N16

    CC, I tend to agree with you. If you lose interest in supporting your team due to being unhappy with the football they’re playing, too much money being paid to players, too high prices…whatever….that’s fair enough. However supporting another team….don’t know how that is emotionally possible.

    Having said that, I know a couple of people who have started supporting Clapton as they love the ‘old school’ atmosphere and involvement.

  9. Bob N16

    Raptora, interesting point you make about Gabriel. I suspect he would have preferred Emery’s style of management although I think being in Spain may well bring out the best in him.

  10. Marko

    China, Michael24 et al are talking about supporting other clubs in place of Arsenal, and this is where support is really questionable

    Did China say that? And I always thought Michael said that more tongue in cheek than anything. I mean he talked about supporting Fulham in the championship over Arsenal seems like a piss take

  11. Leedsgunner

    Balon d’Or has become meaningless. It’s a closed shop and a shop window for Barca and Real Madrid to flog their players. If you’re lucky, Bayern and Juventus might feature but it’s become predictable and boring.

  12. Marko

    Mental that he has been a starter for a pretty decent Valencia side and he was a mental wreck for us.

    Was more of a case of not being given the opportunity. Arsene had his favourites and that was that

  13. Bob N16

    Not sure that was true about Gabriel Marko, although maybe that was your way of engineering yet another criticism of the old manager.

    Playing to your crowd?

    To me Gabriel looked like he was uncomfortable in England, a fish out of water. I think you could tell by his hairstyle!

  14. PessimisticPat

    CC

    I havent read any claims of switching teams, only that of withdrawing support. In terms of money i havent given the club any support for 5 years until this season. If that makes me less of a supporter according to pitcunt then so be it, but i was fucking loathed to give that yank and that french fraud another penny when i could see we were fucked.

    My brother stopped going once we sold fabregas and nasri. I stuck it another 2 years but then gazidis did it for me when he said we will be competing with bayern. I remember lookin at our squad and thinking what a crock of shit, and stopped going. Still watch on the tele but not been to the emirates in a couple years now.

    Watch the game yesterday? How’d Holding play? My cunt brother pulled out of a family get together cause he was “ill” and fuckin watched the game in the pub, said Holding looked ace…

  15. Marko

    Not sure that was true about Gabriel Marko, although maybe that was your way of engineering yet another criticism of the old manager.Playing to your crowd?

    I could say of course you’d say something like that you’re one of those types who deflect criticism or blame from the previous manager and who don’t like it when the conversation veers towards him and would love nothing better than to completely forget him because it brings up uncomfortable conversations for you one where you might have to admit things about him. Gabriel Paulista much like Lucas Perez recently and others in the past wasn’t given a fair crack by Arsene because he had his favourites. No doubt. First chance he got he gave up on the player which is something when you consider the amount of opportunities he gave defenders like Djourou or Senderos.

  16. Marko

    Johan Djourou 10 years at Arsenal 140 appearences. Senderos 7 years 116 appearences. Gabriel 2 and a half years 64 appearences

  17. Stefano14

    China

    Deflect all you want. You’re the child that stopped supporting the arsenal when you didn’t like what was happening.

    I’m not talking about stopping going to matches, giving up your season ticket or buying merchandise which is financial support.

    I’m taking about your pathetic line of I’m not supporting arsenal ie changing clubs like a little fucking baby.

    So you’ve sacked off Tianjin whatever the fuck they’re called for the arsenal again. Wonder who you’ll follow when Unai has a tough period cunt?

  18. Bob N16

    Marko, I was almost as frustrated with Wenger as you. I have never hated him though.

    You refuse to accept that this is not a binary situation. It’s almost as though it’s simpler for you to only consider the discussion as ‘black or white’ . You appear to find it impossible to acknowledge that there are a lot of supporters like myself who respect Wenger but who feel he went off the rails badly in his last, say 7 years and was long overdue to leave.

    What I find worthy of criticism is the boring, repetition that Wenger should be blamed for everything and as often as possible. Now I’m being drawn in to typing boring shit as well, enough.

  19. Bob N16

    Marko,

    By the way your ‘statistics quoting’ just shows how well you can copy and paste and doesn’t further your argument in any way at all. But crack on if it amuses you…

  20. un na naai

    Honest question….Would anyone have preferred wenger to have NEVER managed arsenal at all?

    That 1996 we’d have had David pleat or someone else take over from Bruce Rioch

  21. un na naai

    Raptora

    That’s because the standards of the modern footballer has dropped

    The pool of genuine world class players has diminished significantly since 1998

  22. raptora

    Just give the top 10 or top 5 even in the list or something. These shortlists are laughable. Day and night between the bests in the season and players with average seasons being put in the same category. It’s disrespectful to the actual stars of last football year, namely Salah, Ronaldo and Modric. Not sure if I’m missing someone.

  23. S Asoa

    ALL NORMAL GOONERS
    Looks like there are quite a few cockroaches out of the woodwork today.
    Their unsolicited provocation are just attention -seeking methods to attract attention to their shitty arses.
    JUST IGNORE THESE ARSEHOLES
    they just phishing for attention and to be relevant.
    IGNORE. DON’T REPLY

  24. HighburyLegend

    “Some of the Ballon d’Or nominees are imo laughable.”

    They must complete the list by one way or the other.
    lol

  25. China

    I talked about supporting Tianjin TEDA (I go when I occasionally get the chance and support them as my current local team) and Bristol Manorfarm, my original local club who I’ve always had a soft spot for

    Not exactly switching arsenal to Chelsea is it? Not that I care in the slightest if that would somehow upset people

  26. VicVic

    ‘ China, Michael24 et al are talking about supporting other
    clubs in place of Arsenal, and this is where support is really
    questionable. ‘

    No, that obviously makes them super fans!

    Those guys you mentioned are super fans, they can choose when to support the club or not, and supporting another team if the going gets tough at Arsenal makes them all the more super.

  27. China

    Un an that’s actually a legit question

    Honestly I’d probably rather he did manage us because those early years were incredible but I wish I could do it all again, then fall asleep the second we lost cesc and wake up again this summer

  28. raptora

    HL
    “They must complete the list by one way or the other.”

    I know but how do you shortlist
    Benzema – 10 goals in 41 games, 7.10 score in whoscored and 1 MotM,
    next to Ronaldo with 41 goals in 40 games, 8.03 score and 11 MotM.

    It makes the whole thing look bad.

  29. Steveyg87

    The Ramsey goal did nothing to change my opinion regarding him leaving. We don’t need hollywood anymore, pragmatism is the order of the day for this team.

  30. China

    These player award lists are basically always nonsense

    It’s usually players as much picked on reputation as it is performance and has been since forever

    David Beckham came second one year I think in one of these. He was an excellent crosser of the ball and a good free kick taker, but if he had a face like ribery and a beer gut like Ronaldo he’d have never come second.

    I must admit I’ve come to respect beckham’s Ability much more in recent years but he was overrated tho

  31. VicVic

    ‘Those wishing Arsenal to lose had the best interests of the club
    at heart.’

    Ah, yes, yes, those wanting them to win are the real enemies!

  32. Marko

    It’s almost as though it’s simpler for you to only consider the discussion as ‘black or white’

    Right back at ya you equate justfied criticism to hate like some sort of a child.

    By the way your ‘statistics quoting’ just shows how well you can copy and paste and doesn’t further your argument in any way at all. But crack on if it amuses you…

    It shows he gave up on Gabriel after 2 and a half seasons but for some reason kept on Djourou and Senderos for 10 and 7 years if that isn’t favouritism I don’t know what is

  33. Marko

    Honest question….Would anyone have preferred wenger to have NEVER managed arsenal at all?

    No but I think a lot of us would have preferred if he fucked off a lot sooner. I personally think after the FA Cup win against Hull or Villa think it was Hull he should have been binned that summer Klopp and Ancellotti were available

  34. Champagne Charlie

    Pat

    You’re fully vindicated in withdrawing any monies put into the club don’t get me wrong.

    But you didn’t suddenly become a hammer lol

    Caught the second half and liked what I saw. Holding has always been my pick between the young guys, his mentality is elite. Chambers is so done with us it’s weird

  35. Dissenter

    To answer Una na’s legit question.
    I’m glad Wenger managed Arsenal.
    He was class personified, an innovator and a ruthless driver of success in his first 10-12 yrs. He deserves all the praise in the game for those years.
    The 2008-2012 years (+/-2) are gray areas for me. I wanted him to go out on a bloody well spend al the money given to him to succeed.
    I wish he had left after the 2013 FA cup final.
    Everything after that was the worst of Wenger.
    Even Wenger knows that he overstayed his welcome.
    Wenger represents a lot more than just goodness, there was also the bad and then the nasty ugliness of a manager who grew too powerful.

  36. Richard

    I really struggle with the Wenger talk.

    99.9% of fans agree that his first 10 years were magic.
    There is disagreement on his last 10 years.
    Either way he has left the club, and it is now history. what is done is done.

    We are winning. The players look happy. We are above the spuds. We are two points from top of the table. Why the feck are we arguing.

    Let’s spend time talking about how well we played in the 2nd half. How strong Torreira is. How great Guendozi looks. How Lacazette and Aubam look well up for it and are happy playing with each other. Let’s talk avput how good the goals were, especially Aaron’s.

    Argue about whethet Aaron should get a new contract. Argue about whether Mustafi should wear the jersey ever again. Argue avout the future. Stop arguing about the past. Please. Thank you very much.

  37. HighburyLegend

    “There is disagreement on his last 10 years.”

    And you wonder how the hell such a thing is possible!! lol

  38. VicVic

    ‘Interesting stat from @Orbinho:
    Opposition shots allowed in the Premier League—
    1 Man City 39
    2 Liverpool 46
    17 Arsenal 88
    18 Fulham 98
    19 Brighton 99
    20 Burnley 106’

    Emery’s doing well but we can still say a word.

    That’s the issue with these ‘super fans’ who are in fact super Wenger haters.
    You must not say a word, the danger is it might justify Wenger.

  39. Leedsgunner

    If we are arguing amongst ourselves when we are winning, can you imagine the chaos when we hit some turbulence?

    Richard is right… it’s water under the bridge. Let’s stand together and laugh at Spurs and Man United. 😉

  40. Leftsidesanch

    Why does Wenger need to be a topic of conversation every day? You’d be forgiven for thinking some people just like division here.

  41. Bob N16

    Marko,

    Do you know if ‘he gave up on Gabriel’ or did Gabriel want to return to Spain? How well informed are you really?

    Djourou and Senderos arrived as teenagers, Gabriel as a 25 year old but compare them as like for like if you will.

  42. Leftsidesanch

    Bob, from the quotes Gabriel gave it was probably a mixture of both. I recall him stating that he would play a run of games and then be the one to blame if we lost etc, and that he didn’t have a chance to cement himself in the starting XI

  43. Champagne charlie

    The hardcore number nerds suggest there’s reason for skepticism over our ability to prolong this form:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RedCoatFantasy/status/1048991271656873985

    I mean this whopper is stretching with his “super lucky” cries, but we’re giving up untold number of chances and our xG is being outshone by good finishing (a common critique of the whole system).

    Certainly not the sort of trend you want to continue through 38 games and expect a fruitful return, but so far so good.

  44. Dissenter

    Tne new Adidas deal has to be one of Gazidis best gifts to the club.
    We will be okay so long as we start making astute buys every transfer window.
    Shift the emphasis from stashing away money in the bank to improving the footballing product.
    The huge sums of money in the bank is part of why these players start making unreasonable wage demands

  45. Bob N16

    Thanks for the info. Leftside,

    I always felt it was a bit of both too. One match he looked a like a defensive beast and another a rabbit caught in the headlights. Always wondered if he was someone who didn’t integrate well, for example with the language and was always on the periphery because of that.

    But we could always just blame our previous manager, groan!

  46. Dissenter

    Gabriel was more suited to continental European football. He could nt’ match the pace of the English game.
    Holding has stepped up so no loss there.
    We should be looking at local targets, like Leicester signing Maguire from Hull for 12 million,
    If Newcastle go down then Jamaal Lascelles could become a target for next summer.

  47. ddkingz

    Vic Vic:——
    you are your father’s child….
    you are shit…and a bad joke on a good day… can’t blame you though….

    you haven’t said much in the past 20 hrs….but I knew you were up to something…you went fishing out how many shot we have allowed this season….

    how many of those shots have been on target????… because I know Fulham had 21 of those….

    how many shots did wengers team allowed in his 22yrs reign….

    if you can’t answer this questions then guess, everyone would know you are

  48. Dissenter

    I suspect that some players read blogs like le-grove.
    Gabriel said he was “unfairly blamed for bad results”.
    Where did he get that from because Wenger was not the blaming type?

  49. Bob N16

    CC, I think we need whoever is in goal to have a stand out season. If that happens coupled with finishers who don’t need too many opportunities then I can see us finishing fourth.

    Defence against attack must be interesting in training!

    Mind you, if Minslat earns his corn in January, may be we can expect more.

  50. VicVic

    ‘To answer Una na’s legit question.
    I’m glad Wenger managed Arsenal.
    He was class personified, an innovator and a ruthless driver
    of success in his first 10-12 yrs.’

    The super fans don’t remember those years, but the bad ones are their daily tales.

  51. Micheal

    The Adidas deal is good news. But we would be wrong to assume that Sleazy Stan will allow Emery to spend it.

    Just for the record, Stan has never invested in a bean in Arsenal. He has recently assumed full 100% control of the club and is likely to move the business domicile to one of the dodgy US states where little scrutiny is allowed or to a tax haven where he can cover his tracks. For all we know, the Adidas money will flow straight into Stan’s back pocket – we will never know.

    The only way we will be able to gague Stan’s intentions will be if Emery is given extra funds in the next two or three windows. But if things stay roughly the same we will all the know the direction that Sleazy Stan is heading with our club.

  52. Marko

    Do you know if ‘he gave up on Gabriel’ or did Gabriel want to return to Spain? How well informed are you really?

    I mean if you sell someone after 2 and a half years you’re kind of giving up on him. Whereas if you keep someone like Djourou around for 10 years it’s probably cause you like him as opposed to his work for the club.

  53. PessimisticPat

    great stats vicvic, they are completely wrong though. Try not to use twitter “stats” to back up what you have to say. Actually gather some proper information before making a tit of yourself, will lessen the blow.

  54. Bob N16

    Dissenter,

    Not to be disrespectful to Gabriel but I don’t think he was reading much in English, let alone Legrove!

  55. Marko

    Gabrielle couldn’t speak a lick of English either which must of made life very difficult.
    He was never given a proper run in the side. Every chance Wenger got to replace him he did. Mertesacker could literally do no wrong.

  56. Dream10

    Dissenter

    Not sure if Lascelles is better than what we have. We’ll no doubt be linked to him at the end of season, as his “leadership” qualities will be highlighted. Rather we sign CBs who have a higher ceiling. Let’s see how Diallo at Dortmund (we were linked), Diop at West Ham do. Zouma on loan from Chelsea at Everton. Sarri might want to sell him bfor another ball playing CB. The club desperately want Holding to be a first XI guy with Mustafi/Sokratis sharing minutes. Don’t think Rob is a top prospect, but hope I’m wrong.

  57. Bob N16

    Was Wenger negligent Marko in not ensuring Gabriel studied hard enough?

    By your argument, if Mertesacker could do no wrong then it was right to pick him. German international…pffh! He probably had some incriminating evidence on Wenger and Wenger reluctantly chose him over Gabriel, knowing that Mr Perfect Mertesacker had him over the proverbial barrel.

    Sound about right Marko? Or should I say Inspector Marko…

  58. VicVic

    ddkingz,

    What are you barking about?

    I didn’t originally post those stats here, and if you were not such an idiot you would see that.

    I’m not related to Wenger and my father was a noble man.

    Do you even know yours?

  59. raptora

    I like Mustafi as I’ve said before. There are a lot of people who don’t though and I perfectly understand them. He’s diving opinions just like several other players like Ramsey, Welbeck. Then there are players like Ozil, Bellerin and Xhaka who most people don’t think they are worthy of being starters.

    Re Mustafi I still think there is not only a proper defender, but a top one. I believe Emery could have a similar impact to the one that Pep had on Otamendi at City, and Conte on David Luiz. Remains to be seen but he has all the qualities needed to be successful under Emery. If his brain/focus is going to allow him to reach his full potential remains to be seen.

  60. Marko

    Always wondered if he was someone who didn’t integrate well, for example with the language and was always on the periphery because of that. But we could always just blame our previous manager, groan!

    Yeah because we’ve never had players come here without a lick of English and stay here and be a success. You just can’t stand criticism of Wenger. It’s actually quite pathetic because it was one of the more obvious things about him for years he had favourites he liked a soft mouth and it usually cost us

  61. PessimisticPat

    CC

    Yeah chambers was a weird one for sure. Was playing well for soton as aright back cover, came to us and just sat on the fringes since. Can see him coming back as a backup centre back but nothing else. Glad Holding is getting some game time at least. 2 weeks off from proper football now. Have to pretend we give a shit about England for a week. Some of the games are on skysports now, anyone know why?

  62. VicVic

    ‘great stats vicvic, they are completely wrong though. Try not
    to use twitter “stats” to back up what you have to say. Actually
    gather some proper information before making a tit of
    yourself, will lessen the blow.’

    Stats were Bamford’s, not mine.

  63. Marko

    Gabriel said he was “unfairly blamed for bad results”.
    Where did he get that from because Wenger was not the blaming type?

    I’m assuming he thought that way because no matter what he was always the one getting dropped

  64. Dissenter

    Dream
    I’m not a big fan of spending mega money on foreign potential.
    I keep seeing all these Senegalese kids like Dialo and Diop being bandied about 40-60 million. Nope that’s too much money for potential
    I just think we have to do thing differently.

    The talk about signing Almiron, the Paraguayan midfielder in the MLS is the right path. The lad landed on the wrong continent. He must have thought he was signing for Atalanta in Serie A not Atlanta in the states. He is very good.
    Catch them before their agents get greedy.
    Liverpool have been doing the same strategy for years with Suarez from jax for only 22 million.

  65. Dissenter

    Marko
    Jeez, just saw that “quip”; “he had a soft mouth”.
    Were you suggesting what you had me thinking?

  66. Marko

    Was Wenger negligent Marko in not ensuring Gabriel studied hard enough?

    You’re being a bit dim now.

    By your argument, if Mertesacker could do no wrong then it was right to pick him.

    Should of specified in Wenger’s eyes he could do no wrong. Since you’re firmly against this idea of Wenger and favouritism care to explain Diaby?

  67. Marko

    Jeez, just saw that “quip”; “he had a soft mouth”.
    Were you suggesting what you had me thinking?

    I was joking I’m not saying that Wenger was actually getting blowjobs all these years at Arsenal. I’m sure he stuck around for his love of the club

  68. Joe

    Vic Vic

    Why did you repost those stupid stats then other than trying to take shots at Emery. PArdon the pun

    Fulham had 21 of the 88 shots yesterday. In a match we won 5-1

    You were better off staying away from Le Grove like you did yesterday. Can’t make a jack ass of yourself when you don’t post

    Bamford

    Terrible stats. What a stupid post

  69. Bob N16

    Touche, Marko,

    I give up. You’re too intelligent, you’re arguments too persuasive. I know when I’m beaten.

    All together now, “We all live in a Wenger hating world, Wenger hating world…”
    Repeat ad nauseam…..

  70. raptora

    I kind of laugh at stats like this xG bs. Yes, there is some reasoning behind it, but saying that Arsenal had lower xG (1.14) yesterday, than Fulham (1.34), meaning that statistically we should have lost the game, because they had the better chances to score is unreal. We carved them open time and time again. They had 2 good chances and that’s that. We had like 6-7 including Mikki’s chance to score a second goal right after our first where the ball almost went in, and Bellerin’s super shot in the second half and probably 1 or 2 that I’m missing.

    Maybe in our previous games we got lucky here and there but yesterday’s win was 100% deserved and any stat that claims otherwise is flawed to the core.

  71. Marko

    All together now, “We all live in a Wenger hating world, Wenger hating world…”
    Repeat ad nauseam…..

    Right on queue. What did I tell you it’s not hate it’s criticism you idiot. Me saying he gave up on Gabriel because he wasn’t one of his favourites isn’t an example of hate it’s a criticism. I don’t hate him I just think he was a bit shit for the last 10 years

  72. Bob N16

    Marko,

    Wenger could be over sentimental with players, particularly with players who suffered injury. Diary was a fantastic talent who had his career ruined by a PL wannabee. It was hardly Diaby’s fault that his body constantly broke on him after his ankle had been knackered. Wenger didn’t want to give up on him and his humanity should be applauded just as when he gave Cazorla an extension in his final year.

    Does giving contract extensions to injury hit players give out the wrong message? It was certainly a waste of money but from a human point of view it was kind. Players got too cozy with Wenger’s ways, he wasn’t pragmatic enough but demonstrating to his squad that even if they are injury prone, he wasn’t going to give up on them, I don’t think that was a negative.

  73. Dissenter

    I held off buying kits this season because the puma stuff id drab and pretty bad quality.
    Looking forward to what Addidas will bring to the table. I hope they just go retro- just remake the old classics.

  74. Bob N16

    Joe,

    We’ve just won in our most impressive manner in months, surely there is a feel good factor, until at least the next match? Oh no, you’re right, it is Legrove!

  75. Bob N16

    Marko, the way you comment on Wenger goes beyond reasonable criticism and falls into a poisonousness that borders on hate. Shake it off, it can’t be good for your state of mind.

  76. Stefano14

    Bobn16

    ‘Players got too cozy with Wenger’s ways, he wasn’t pragmatic enough but demonstrating to his squad that even if they are injury prone, he wasn’t going to give up on them, I don’t think that was a negative’

    Well said fella, good post.

  77. Dissenter

    BobN16,
    “Does giving contract extensions to injury hit players give out the wrong message? It was certainly a waste of money but from a human point of view it was kind. ”

    Wenger used to remind us that it wasn’t his money so why would he spend it for kindness sake?
    Everyone who is in the game ought to know that their playing days are ephemeral . No sentiments..getting a professional career is already a victory becase only 1/10,000 get that far.
    So Wenger was happy to use someone else’s money to project kindness and support his egalitarian socialistic goals but would give a lecture when the fans asked him spend it for real footballing reasons.

  78. Marko

    It was hardly Diaby’s fault that his body constantly broke on him after his ankle had been knackered

    It was literally Diabys fault.

    Wenger didn’t want to give up on him and his humanity should be applauded …Does giving contract extensions to injury hit players give out the wrong message?

    You are literally a disgusting fan. Applauding him for pissing money away all those years at the expense of the team and club competing all the while the fans were paying top dollar and getting nothing in return. Oh and I’m sure you’ve blame Stan for not putting in enough into the club during that time. It’s honestly pathetic but again you’ve quite proven he had his favourites. Kept giving Cazorla and Arteta and Diaby new contracts while we’ve been crying out for a DM for years. Thank fuck those days are over and he’s unemployed staring at the wall

  79. Stefano14

    Dissenter

    ‘I held off buying kits this season because the puma stuff id drab and pretty bad quality.’

    As a grown man what are still you buying kits for?

  80. Bob N16

    Dissenter, do you think the players were thinking Wenger was a pussy for giving Cazorla an extension or did they think ‘there for the grace of God go I’ and recognise that it was a generous, nurturing act?

  81. Marko

    Marko, the way you comment on Wenger goes beyond reasonable criticism and falls into a poisonousness that borders on hate

    Nah you’re just too thick to tell the difference.

    demonstrating to his squad that even if they are injury prone, he wasn’t going to give up on them, I don’t think that was a negative’

    That is literally an awful way to run a football club. Or really any business if you had those kinds of sick days in an everyday job you’d be sacked. If you were that lame as an animal you’d be shot but with Arsene Wenger you’re rewarded? Makes sense

  82. Bob N16

    ‘I am a disgusting fan’ for believing that supporting a player in times of difficulty would show to the rest of the squad that Arsenal had the class to give the fullest opportunity to recover and contribute to the team.

    It was Diaby’s fault for a jumped up Sunderland teenager coming on for the last few minutes of a game, to launch himself at Diaby’s ankle and shatter it to the extent that it ruined his career. Wow Marko.

    So by giving these extensions to injured players who didn’t warrant them is the reason Wenger chose not to acquire a DM. You must attend board meetings because your insider knowledge is staggering.

  83. Marko

    As a grown man what are still you buying kits for?

    Unbelievable really isn’t it. Not like you see literally thousands of people cramming into stadiums wearing jerseys. Unheard of

  84. Bob N16

    Enough Marko, I’ve obviously got little better to do than argue with you, shame on me! Keep at it though, didn’t know you could earn a living by posting on here, impressive stuff – well done.

  85. Leftsidesanch

    As a grown man what are still you buying kits for?

    The way you talk I’d have thought you was decked out in Arsenal gear like Ty from AFTV

    Just a joke before you throw around your favourite c word!!

  86. Stefano14

    Marko

    ‘It was hardly Diaby’s fault that his body constantly broke on him after his ankle had been knackered’

    It was literally Diabys fault.’

    This is why you’re a clueless moron.

    I was at the game up at Sunderland when got his leg and ankle smashed in half off some no mark prick. We were 3-1 up and the game was over, they were already related there was absolutely no need for the tackle.

    It 100% wasn’t his fault his body couldn’t fully recover from the assault he suffered. Normally muscle injuries from his body over compensating on the other side.

    The fact the club looks after it’s injured players is a positive thing. Only a cunt would view it as a negative.

  87. raptora

    Dissenter,
    I agree. I think we all agree that Puma failed pretty miserably. I’ve been buying kits every year for around 10 years straight up until 2009/2010. Last kit I bought was the blue away one with Arshavin’s name on it – https://classic-shirts.com/eng_pl_2009-10-ARSENAL-LONDON-ARSHAVIN-SHIRT-L-BOYS-73742_1.jpg Quality stuff.

    After that the only player that I regret not having his shirt is Santi but Puma taking from Nike didn’t help the cause at all.

  88. Dissenter

    BobN16
    “Dissenter, do you think the players were thinking Wenger was a pussy for giving Cazorla an extension or did they think ‘there for the grace of God go I’ and recognise that it was a generous, nurturing act?”

    Nope, it”s an idealistic and selfish act when he refused to invest in a player that can actually make his team better.
    Act 1; Wenger gives a lavish contract to a crock who won’t be fit to play.
    Act 2; Wenger builds his plans around that player returning back and refuses to spend on a replacement.
    Act 3; Wenger gets defensive when confronted about ther lack of coverage and regales us with stories of “internal solutions”
    Act 4; Lather, repeat and rinse. Wenger does the same thing again…maybe just to remind everyone that he is charge..or to put pesky fans in their place.

  89. Marko

    ‘I am a disgusting fan’ for believing that supporting a player in times of difficulty would show to the rest of the squad that Arsenal had the class to give the fullest opportunity to recover and contribute to the team.

    No you’re a disgusting fan for condoning the type of behavior that caused us to get to what we are today. It’s not class to keep rewarding injured underperforming players it’s stupid bordering on negligence

    So by giving these extensions to injured players who didn’t warrant them is the reason Wenger chose not to acquire a DM

    Why didn’t he then

  90. raptora

    Dissenter,
    Act 5; The injured player comes back to the team and Wenger lauds it as a new signing.
    Act 6; The no longer injured player injures again so the cycle can proceed.

  91. Dissenter

    Stefanov
    It appears you think it was okay to keep renewing Diabey’s contract time and time again, even when it was clear his footballing days are over.
    Professional careers are ephemeral
    Do you know how many gifted and telented kids drop out because of injuries in the academies everywhere, that’s the nature of sports in general; injuries happen.
    I can understand the act of renewing the next short term contract to get them situated but to keep renewing it again and again?

  92. Joe

    Bob

    If you ever said wenger doesn’t have the funds to compete then , on the other hand, you can’t say wenger was right giving perennially injured players contracts out of the goodness of doing so

    We aren’t a charity. Diaby etc should have been told to prove fitness before being given a new 3 year deal

    Another reason wenger was a failure. Not ruthlessness enough.

  93. Marko

    didn’t know you could earn a living by posting on here, impressive stuff – well done

    Ah very good…eh yes right back at you… cause you realize we’re both on here at exactly the same time as each other

  94. Marko

    It 100% wasn’t his fault his body couldn’t fully recover from the assault he suffered.

    Right but plenty of players have suffered horrific injuries over the years and have come back so if Diaby couldn’t it’s because of his body yes? No it’s our fault we should have kept giving him new contracts

  95. China

    I hope next season we get lots similar to 06. The ‘redcurrent’ and yellow second kits were very classy

    I’m also a big fan of 04 away kit with that beautiful yellow and blue combination

    As for other home kits, again, 03/04 was pretty good but nothing special. I don’t think most of our home kits are anything special generally speaking.

    I’d say an 03/04 invincible redesign could be the best choice next year

  96. Bob N16

    Marko,

    At the moment I have the option to work a four day week which I’m very happy to take, so I get Monday’s off. Do I presume that your work is not ‘snowing you under’?

    I’m trying hard not to directly insult you but I’m now really struggling…..

  97. Bob N16

    Joe, I do agree with you. He was definitely kept on for too long and it should have been seen as a waste of money. It was another example of Wenger seemingly having too much control. If that was the worst of his errors it wouldn’t have been too bad but we all know he had other blind spots.

    Shit I’m talking about the old manager again.

    ‘Torreira ooh ooh ooh, he comes from Uruguay, he’s only 5ft 5, Torreira ooh ooh ooh…”

  98. Leedsgunner

    Goodness me, we’re rehashing Diaby? What for? I’m sure he broke the world record as the world’s best paid gym goer, followed closely by Jack Wilshere. 😉

    We’re arguing amongst ourselves for the sake of it now which seems silly.

    Other clubs must be losing free agents next summer. I think Juan Mata is available on a free and he’s only thirty. Worth a punt as a squad player? With the club bringing on two talented wingers in Reiss Nelson and ESR it might be helpful to have someone like him.

    Having said that, we do have Ljungberg on our coaching staff now….

    Any other free agents we should be looking at?

  99. VicVic

    Joe

    ‘You were better off staying away from Le Grove like you did yesterday.’

    I was here yesterday.
    Before and during the game.

    My opinion before the game was Arsenal would win with ease and we did.

    But you couldn’t see such posts even if it was written in rainbow colours. You only have eyes for AKBs and too bad they don’t exist anymore.

    I even doubt AKB ever existed, I used to believe that tale, but I can now see that it was just a name given to those who believed that club support required patience and dedication, those who had enough patience with an Arsenal hero who lost its power and didn’t know it.

  100. un na naai

    Marko

    Did Gabriel perform well for arsenal? Yes or no?

    For me he was poor. Yes he was in a poor defence but he was pushed out by Monreal and holding who seemed superior in a back 3 for me. I’d have played mert over him too. He was too skinny and wirey for the trials and tribulations of our league and he was a failed experiment.
    We were right to let him go in my opinion

  101. un na naai

    China

    98/99 home kit with jvc was our best
    97/98 away kit
    06 home kit too was lovely
    Probably my 3 favourites

    Didn’t like the 04 yellow.

    To be fair kits are for little boys anyway. Any full gown man in arsenal shit is a wanker

  102. Dissenter

    Joe
    “Prefer to stay away for any wenger era kitLet’s wipe the slate clean of the cunt’

    Jeez you really are an insufferable pr*ck
    Are you fo real

    You want to wipe the invisibles off the slate as well?

  103. Joe

    Why would you put the pressure on Emery by putting the team in the invincibles kit or likewise from the wenger era?

    He’s already getting compared to wenger in every facet

    At least 89 was long ago enough and GG and that era doesn’t really resonate a lot of the arsenal fans

  104. un na naai

    Prefer to stay away for any wenger era kitLet’s wipe the slate clean of the cunt

    Joe

    You’re a fucking dick wipe. Any true arsenal fan revels in those days. On full display. Your Wenger pathology.

    You clearly were not into arsenal in those days. It’s ingrained in your post

  105. un na naai

    It’s the club’s history you mug. It’s our history. Like wankers such as yourself say, the club is bigger than wenger.
    Does this narrow view extend to playing good football? How about having wengers players back in the coaching staff? Henry or paddy v? Wipe the slate clean eh dick wipe??

  106. un na naai

    At least 89 was long ago enough and GG and that era doesn’t really resonate a lot of the arsenal fans

    It does you wanker. Just not cling on Johnny come latelies like you and Bamford.
    You will never truly get London football culture, just like Bamford