Emery hitting the incremental good vibes, right?

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Oh man, I’ve had a week of fuck ups… I totally failed yesterday. I tried to make an aggressive point about xG. I used the right data, but I mistakingly tried to credit the origin… but put the wrong tweet in its place.

My argument was sound, but my data inaccurate. I deserved the ‘you’ve lost all credibility’ commentary that proceeded the post.

Anyway, today is another day. Bernd Leno is talking to the press like he’s peak Johann Djourrou.

Now Petr is injured – I don’t know how long for – I have the opportunity to play more games and show the coach my quality,”

“It is a big chance for me.

“I don’t want to say it wrong that I am happy for Petr to be injured. I think always it is a bad feeling, so I feel sorry for him.

“But, now I have more opportunities to play and I will concentrate on the games.”

Good for you Bernd. It’s marv to read that you’ll concentrate and I’m glad you’re not too excited about the unfortunate hamstring injury of Petr Cech.

I liked what I saw in the second half against Watford. He’s a real sweeper keeper, he opens space for the defence because he wants the ball, his passes are more ambitious and he’s very flexible in playing short or long. I think his shot-stopping leaves a lot to be desired, but hopefull,y he’ll grow into the role and cement his place in the first team.

Bolton lad, Rob Holding let the fans know what Emery has to say about football.

“He said when he came in that he wanted to bring a winning mentality and you get that from wins and going into each game confident.

“It was a competitive and physical game and we knew that coming in. We just had to stand up to the battle.”

Fucking inspirational shit right there. If you win, confidence breeds like jackrabbits on a sunny meadow. He’s right, football is a simple game. You win, life is good… you lose, carnage can be just around the corner. I really like Holding. He’s been great in the last two games, he’s fast, great on the ball, and he’s a tough bastard because he’s from the north. Hopefully he’ll retire Mustafi.

Unai Emery: El Maestro, is being published by the very talented Romain Molina. You might remember his exciting take on the Spaniard when we hired him this summer. It’ll be a very interesting read, the author seems the type who is very into the details of football, versus the panto-esque nonsense a lot of our journos are about. Hopefully there’s a chapter about how shite football comes good, and shithousery being the path to tika-taka righteousness.

Finally, we only went and done another podcast. Aash, Pete and Matt chatting good tings about the Arsenal. Tune in, I felt chipper after the episode!

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  1. Up 4 grabs now

    I can’t speak for Joe or anyone else here, but the people that are defending emery don’t think we’re the finished article, we know there’s major work still to be done before we’re competing again.
    I’m happy wengers gone because at least we know there’s a chance something different might happen.

    Emery might not be the guy to win us the league or champion league, but I’m sure Wenger couldn’t if he was still here.
    And emery deserves the chance and time to show us what he can achieve, if he can’t do it after a reasonable period of time he’s moved on.

  2. Joej

    NO Emery has us purring with scintillating football and we’ll be end up smashing most sides we come across right
    We’ll see

    Wow. You Akbs are drama queens

    As up 4 grab says. We aren’t a finished article. He’s had 9
    Matches.

    But he has us winning. And that’s all that matters right now

    I’m
    Enjoying it. What the fuck is it to you Akbs that I’m having fun watching arsenal again??

  3. London gunner

    Sanchez has well and truly lost it.

    Has to be one of the worst purchases in man united history.

    Has ever had a good game for them?

    And the wages they are paying him loool

  4. Up 4 grabs now

    London, mesut has scored more in the last four games than Sanchez in nineteen!
    That’s how bad he is. Really seems like we got lucky shifting him out when we did.
    500k a week, utd are stuck with him now. Lol

  5. karim

    Up4grabs
    They’re all having a stinker to be honest but might still win the game
    Dembele missing a sitter right now.

  6. nepGunner

    Unai deserves every criticism for…:

    1) Defensive frailties /Weak midfield /Not attractive football:

    1.a) After at least two Transfer Window to bring in the players to play his vision. Emeryball is attacking game play and the squad requires specific types of players to execute it. In current squad, I would say, only the Thor & Leno are Unai era additions. Sokratis /Licht are stop gaps and Matty G is for the future. Also, nobody in this forum can state with 100% conviction that how many of the 5 players we brought in last TW was consulted with Unai before a deal was struck.

    1.b) With new system in place to play from the back and new defensive partnerships being formed throughout our backline all at the same time, it is not beyond the realm of possibilities that things are still fine tuning before it runs like a well oiled machine.

    1.c) How could you not play your highest paid “asset” tied up for millions for the next 3 years? I mean people ignoring this fact are either full of agenda against Unai (its not like Unai offered Ozil that stupid wages) or simply ignorant and have ZERO idea about management in a top corporate job.

    Also, will you completely strip the spine of last season’s starting XI the moment you take charge of a club which has just moved to a new phase of its existence after 22 Years and risk loosing the dressing room from DAY 1? I bet some of the sick ones here wanted that, but I also know the many rationals understand the decision of Emery to stick with the very spine of the team of last year.

    We have Leno for Cech.

    Who do we play in place of Xhaka? Possibly Ramsey – but is he disciplined enough to play that role? Matty G is a 19 year old prodigy who we SHOULD NOT over expose. The Egyptian average Joe? And btw, Xhaka is looking slightly better with the Thor behind him, allowing time to spray those meaningfull passes instead of the usual sideways “passes” and back “passes”

    Yes, Ramsey in #10 is one thing I have also criticized Emery for. He doesn’t have the quality possessed by both Ozil of Mikhi. I know Unai uses Ramsey there instead of Ozil for the press, but I think Mikhi is the best fit there in our current squad – which again pushes Ozil to the right leaving our RB completely exposed.

    People championing Welbeck /Iwobi needs to revisit their comments after two years from today to be surprised how did they “Ramseyed” both of these limited players in their effort to “advise” Emery about his squad selection.

    1.d) Like it has been pointed out ad-infinitum that it’s just been 5 months plus since Unai has taken the reign of the club in a “negative spiral” – finishing 6th in last season after finishing 5th the year before. It’s also important to take into account how much fund was provided to Emery as compared to the clubs he will be competing this season for the Premier League (yea right, he must win the league straight away)? It will take some time to see the full effect of Emeryball on the pitch as it requires

    (a) Unlearning Wengerball and learning Emeryball through consistent practice in training and in actual match (there are 9 competitive matches so far),

    (b) Right players, as I’ve discussed above, and realistic time frame like:

    (b.1) 10 games to see the vision coming to shape
    (b.2) The vision being implemented game in/game out post January TW (if Unai can replace some existing square pegs with “round pegs”)
    (b.3) The vision winning games in exciting fashion after next summer’s TW (if Unai can replace most remaining square pegs with “round pegs” in the first XI)

    Finally,
    It’s not apple to apple comparison comparing Wenger and Unai with the same yardstick just yet and persistently downplaying all the positives he has done for the club so far – in the same manner we cannot discredit Wenger for the Invincibles no matter how much some of us started to hate him for the last 10 years.

  7. nepGunner

    After Sylvester /RVP / Welbeck – I feel a little redeemed against ManU today seeing Sanchez stinking up Old Toilet and getting subbed at Wenger Time (almost)

  8. DaleDaGooner

    Ah Coquelin and Gabriel playing for Valencia…..they don’t look so bad for them….Gabriel has actually been a mainstay for them.

  9. PessimisticPat

    After reading a bit more of his stuff ive decided vicvic is an attention seeker. If anything bad happens he can sit back and say i told you so. Pretty obvious what game your playing vicvic. You demanded stats to counter arguments,were provided them,then ignored them. You call everyone else wenger obsessives yet mention him in nearly every post. You are beyond tiresome.

  10. Receding hairline

    Kovac isn’t exactly lighting it up at Bayern.. Been a bad few weeks for them

    Lopetegui was never going to last at real Madrid… He should be grateful barca seem intent on having a weird season.. The Vidal signing isn’t exactly working

    But hey let’s concentrate on a man 8 games into his first season in a new league with a squad of players most of us spent all of last season abusing… How dare he be just four points off the top. He should be top and playing the best football in Europe after spending 70m

  11. Cesc Appeal

    If the level of criticism shown by some was shown by them and their sort over the past 6 years we would not be in this mess because things would have changed far quicker.

    I would say unbelievable if it wasn’t so predictable and was in fact predicted years ago that they would act exactly like this.

    I should say not all of them, some are using basic logic, but enough of them still for it to be laughable.

    At this point it is bizarre and someone should make a documentary about them. Louis Theroux or someone, just like the Westboro Baptist Church.

  12. Michael24

    Gabriel and Coquelin looking good for Valencia.

    Amazing what structure and belief can do for a player.

    I wish we had kept Gabriel.

  13. Michael24

    Cesc Appeal

    According to them though, the team (lads) came first.

    The club was secondary.

    Such clever clever folk.

  14. Champagne charlie

    Michael24

    Can I point out that I got absolute dogs abuse for saying we should keep Gabriel. He was rash at times, but he’s an unreal character and mentality – absolute headcase.

    Very comfortably could’ve been a valued option in defence for us, and Sokratis for me is no gain on him.

  15. Cesc Appeal

    M24

    I would like to see people stop biting. They are either doing it on a wind up, which is what I think Pierre is doing, or they are really thick. Either way it doesn’t merit a response or an argument over any of their ‘points’.

    We know what they’re doing and why they’re doing it. It is sad in a way, totally wrong for years and now can’t let go and are still desperately trying to prove they were right even after the most lenient owner in football and a castrated CEO actually fired the person that drives their arguments.

  16. Marko

    Ah Coquelin and Gabriel playing for Valencia…..they don’t look so bad for them….Gabriel has actually been a mainstay for them.

    He was actually not a bad signing for us he just was barely used to full effect and then Wenger gave up on him so quickly. Which I’ll be honest was a bit infuriating when you remember how many changes Djourou and Senderos got and how long before he got rid of them. Favouritism and all that

  17. Samesong

    Aye wa dey wa Dey wawawa they aye wa they wa they wa wa wa they.

    Haha bet you started singing that in your head.

    Sorry Cesc that was my response to them!

  18. Goobergooner

    Vicvic

    Mate, everyone is getting behind Emery without the guarantee of success(being league and cl titles).
    You understand that neither of us win if Emery loses.

    We all know we aren’t playing great football, but can you deny the points on the board and the win streak and the points away from home?

    I’m not pretending everything is rosy, nor are most people. You just can’t tolerate a new manager and that is that.

  19. Goobergooner

    VictoriousOctober 2, 2018 16:48:07
    “Bam
    Actually it’s fairly obvious why some have an issue with this: some people so want to believe that Emery is succeeding and will succeed that they cannot tolerate any questioning of what we’re seeing. This attitude is very similar to the “shut up and support the team” we heard throughout the Wenger years, so it’s pretty hilarious to hear this coming from former WOBsNAILED!!!
    Well done my man, utterly Surmised of the exact situation on legrove this very moment.”

    The difference here is that you clowns don’t see that Emery has had 9 games where as Wenger had 22 years.

    Yes we want Emery to succeed. But not to the detriment of the team. If this really does turn to shit I’ll be wanting him out just like I wanted Wenger gone. But I will first wait for it to turn to shit.

  20. Joej

    The difference here is that you clowns don’t see that Emery has had 9 games where as Wenger had 22 years.Yes we want Emery to succeed. But not to the detriment of the team. If this really does turn to shit I’ll be wanting him out just like I wanted Wenger gone. But I will first wait for it to turn to shit.

    This…

    And at least 12 years of the 22 of bang average

  21. Goobergooner

    VictoriousOctober 2, 2018 16:48:07
    “Bam
    Actually it’s fairly obvious why some have an issue with this: some people so want to believe that Emery is succeeding and will succeed that they cannot tolerate any questioning of what we’re seeing. This attitude is very similar to the “shut up and support the team” we heard throughout the Wenger years, so it’s pretty hilarious to hear this coming from former WOBsNAILED!!!
    Well done my man, utterly Surmised of the exact situation on legrove this very moment.”

    The difference here is that you clowns don’t see that Emery has had 9 games where as Wenger had 22 years.

    Yes we want Emery to succeed. If this really does turn to shit I’ll be wanting him out just like I wanted Wenger gone. But I will first wait for it to turn to shit.

    It’s not even about being over the top about Emery, it’s about some dicks on here not allowing people to enjoy the new show. Mainly people who would actually still prefer Wenger didn’t leave.

  22. Batistuta

    Joe

    Maybe just maybe stop feeding the trolls Vic and Pierre, one can see from miles away their agenda, all they’re waiting for now is for us to lose a game so they come out with an “I told you so” line, its miserable if not pathetic

  23. Joej

    Bats

    Pierre has already used that line.

    Unbelievable. And they wants us to believe they alwys supported arsenal and not Arsene.

    Too bad they make it so bloody obvious where their true allegiance lies.

    To Arsene FC not the Arsenal FC.

  24. Batistuta

    Joe

    It’s sad really but entirely predictable so best really to ignore them and move on, lots of football on offer plus potential players to watch and discuss rather then feed trolls

  25. Batistuta

    Joe

    It’s sad really but entirely predictable so best really to ignore them and move on, lots of football on offer plus potential players to watch and discuss rather then feed trolls.

  26. Batistuta

    Marko

    Kondogbia especially looked a beast out there tonight, totally bossed Pogba and Co in there and his range of passing was filthy too…..totally unimpressed by Guedes though

  27. Batistuta

    Marko

    Kondogbia especially looked a beast out there tonight, totally bossed Pogba and Co in there and his range of passing was filthy too…..totally unimpressed by Guedes though.

  28. Joej

    And Sport Mediaset claim that Zielinski is the player that Emery wants to come in and fill his boots.

    The 24-year-old has been linked with a potential move to the Premier League before with Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp known to be an admirer.

  29. Goobergooner

    Bats

    Will have to take the advice you offered Joe myself haha.

    Who do people see as potential targets for cb and lb positions if they had the choice? And for a reasonable sum of arsenal standards?

  30. Goobergooner

    I would like Alessio Romagnoli as Italy is a tactical and defensive league, I have liked a lot of defenders who have played there. And he seems to be doing things right on the pitch.

    Wouldn’t mind ginter either. Or Koulibaly.

    Lb i actually don’t know who I like that I feel would be available atm. I’m hoping Emery can get the best out of kolasinac though, and maybe amn is worth a shot there. I haven’t minded him playing for us there, just needs more game time

  31. Goobergooner

    I wish it was xhaka getting his contract withdrawn and Ramsey on xhakas new contract haha.

    I would have liked to have seen Emery play Ramsey in the cm 2, assuming Emery made him play with more discipline.

    With torreira there, and Ramsey probably making his usual forward runs, I don’t think it would be any worse defensively than having xhaka there, as the way he gets bypassed every single game really gets to me. He is shocking in that quick transition to defense. Ramsey I feel would have been better defensively (in saying that both are shit defensively) and attacking wise in that position.

  32. Goobergooner

    Too late now though.

    And I am happy that there is an opening in mf for the next tw’s. Kondogbia does have that something about him doesn’t he. I can’t say I’ve watched him much, but he has been talked about on here for years.
    And he definitely is an upgrade on Ramsey and xhaka for a cm spot

  33. Marko

    Dream signings for CB would be one of Gimenez, Koulibaly or De Ligt (massive potential) wouldn’t mind Kimpembe of PSG at all either. In midfield can’t look past Kondogbia or Ndombele to solve our defensive woes in midfield.

  34. Joej

    The most telling stats of our boring shit play is that the scintillating Chelsea and Liverpool only have scored one more goal than us, and only 2 and 4 points above us.

    #emeryout

  35. Joej

    Let’s hope a winger and CM are a possibility in Jan.

    It’ll be interesting if we keep ramsey or not in Jan. I prefer selling and replacing. Even if it’s with a winger.

    Move Ozil back to the 10 spot. For now.

  36. Joe

    victorious.

    You didn’t tell me by how many goals constitutes as us getting “ our asses handed to us” for our bet.

    3 goals?? 4? 2?

  37. Goobergooner

    A couple of other things I’d like to add:

    1.VicVicOctober 2, 2018 18:04:25
    “They’re scared already, they know the time will come when they will have to moan about Emery”

    The thing is with this, Emery isn’t bigger than the club, and will be shafted if his season ends up being shit.

    I am all for that! If he doesn’t do his job then see you later.

    Every teams fans get sick or their manager if things get stale or start declining. This has always been the case.
    Why you think we care if Emery gets fired is absolutely bizarre. Akbs think that wobs view the new manager on as high a pedestal as they held Wenger.
    Emery is 100% sackable before he overstays his welcome 12 years.

    You guys just don’t get it.

    I want Emery to succeed because he is The Arsenal manager!
    I 100% know there will be a time I moan about Emery. But it’s not going to be after 9 games and 7 wins in a row.

    2. If anyone has actually looked at how Emery teams play, you will see it is fast paced attacking football. He has said as much since being arsenal manager.

    The reason Emery isn’t very different from Wenger is because the fans expect that type of football.

    In saying that, Emery plays a similar style but actually uses his backroom team advantage to drill and work with the team on upcoming opponents and is building on mentality and work rate, as well as responsibility on the pitch.

    We have won the ball farther up field and scored more times this season than I can remember last season, so the press is improving. That is definitely a positive for me.

    And lastly. Please please please remember Wenger came 6th with the majority of this squad. We haven’t been close to Chelsea, city or man u the last 10 years (man u swapped with pool this year, but they have been Shite for them since Fergie left) which means our managerial changeover isn’t going to be as easy a transition as any manager taking over their teams. Please stop with the comparisons that we should be running on all 8 cylinders from the very beginning.
    We also only had 70 million to spend due to Wengers shit season. How much would any of you akbs have changed so far with that money?? I feel we did reasonably, although underwhelming in some aspects, but we brought in a whole lot of experience to the dressing room which was sorely needed since Wenger had not one leader in his squad. Fuck captain xhaka right off.

  38. Black Hei

    Goobergooner

    All this started when Pedro says that our performance for Watford wasn’t so good, which is correct. The result is good, not the performance.

    But then it got construed as a pro-Arteta handbag.

    And if an AKB says the performance is no good, it is a pro-Wenger handbag.

    And if Bamford, a WO, says the performance is no good, well……just beat him with a handbag.

    I think you can see where this is getting.

  39. gonsterous

    what is bizarre Is arsenal fans acting like we have a new manager for life now. No, if he fails, he’ll be moved on. So enjoy it while it lasts. When it doesn’t, we’ll go after a new manager, and when he doesn’t work out we’ll go after a new one. But you have to give a manager time, you can’t look at his past and conclude he’s going to be shit or will fail. If we did, arteta would not be spoken of by anyone cause by his past, he’s just an average player who happened to captain one of the worst arsenal sides.

  40. China

    Black hei of far more concern than emery vs wenger is what specific brand and model of hand bags were talking here?????

    Wenger was a Topshop handbag to Emery’s Zara if you know what I mean

    Guys? Do you know what I mean? No? Never mind

  41. gonsterous

    china

    all I know is zara sells over priced made in china things. I prefer the New Yorkers shop because they don’t hide the fact that all their stuff are made in china but it’s a better quality and cheaper.
    So to conclude, no I don’t get what you mean 🙂

  42. Black Hei

    China

    I would need to hit you with a Samsonite. They are made in China these days? Heh.

    My point is that it is ok to say that the football served up by Arsenal isn’t good yet.

    It really isn’t and no, I am not implying that we shouldn’t have sacked Wenger and that we should have hired Arteta.

    Personally, I think Emery should have been more flexible and did his PSG 2nd season thing and just roll with the players he has instead of sticking to his formula.

    Once you buy some time from fans and owners, make adjustments to get to kind of football you want your team to play.

    I have simply no idea why Emery keeps picking Xhaka. There is certainly no Xhaka in “High Press”. Oh wait, there is a H, lol.

  43. Pierre

    Gonsterous
    “what is bizarre Is arsenal fans acting like we have a new manager for life now”

    I’ll tell you what is bizarre ,it’s you thinking that Arsenal fans are acting like we have a new manager for life now.

    If you’re going to make a comment ,try and talk sense .

  44. Pierre

    Goobergooner
    “We have won the ball farther up field and scored more times this season than I can remember last season, so the press is improving. That is definitely a positive for me.”

    Would just like to say that we scored a total of 115 goals last season in all competitions so scoring goals was not really an issue .

    Last season our problems were at the back and until they are addressed properly this season they will continue to be an issue.

  45. Michael24

    China

    “Wenger is a Topshop handbag to Emery’s Zara, if you know what I mean”

    Very good. Wait for the negative feedback on that one!!

    You know what amazes me in all of this, is that each and every day on here those fans that are now standing up for Mr Emery( let’s call him change and progress for good measure) are the same fans who openly condemned Wenger for years and wanted him out of the club.

    On the flip side, those that now have concern for Emery and his methods (after only a handful of games) are the same folk that stood by Wenger all these years, for what they like to say was for the sake of the team, even though they would also say they wanted him gone.

    Strange isn’t it? It’s like being diagnosed with Bird flu, refusing any medication/ cure and continuing on your merry way because you feel it’ll all just go away.

    In reality, hitting your head against a brick wall is the only way of dealing with this or, as I like to do, you can continue to come on here and mock and ridicule these shameless individuals, even though you’ll be called a “Wenger obsessive” or a “plastic fan” and just accept that their motives are based on ignorance and embarrassment for their own shortcomings.

    It’s what makes le-grove such an enjoyable experience, getting feedback from fans who are set in a time warp, with little or no concept of the bigger picture. It’s just great knowing that these same people genuinely know the truth but continue flicking through their book of responses for the sake of their own self importance.

    Yep, another wonderful day on le-grove.

  46. gonsterous

    Pierre

    Last season our problems were at the back and until they are addressed properly this season they will continue to be an issue.

    yah, last season. lol. try the last 10 years.

  47. un na naai

    Michael

    For the record I did defend Wenger until the season after we beat Chelsea in the cup final as I would emery. My point is not to pick holes in emery’s arsenal but to highlight exactly what you’ve just highlighted
    That so many on here are performing a 180 on the way they support our manager. I see very little difference thus far and support them both. The difference I do see though has given me cause for optimism and hopefully we can add a player or 3 or 4 that would help to implement emery’s style further and enhance us further.
    Time will tell

  48. gonsterous

    You know for every manager that has hit the ground running, there are another 10 That take a while for things to get going.
    Now look at arsenal, look at the budget provided at the start of the summer and look at the squad. how many managers in world football could have hit the ground running with this lot ? You can eliminate klopp and pep cause they were shambolic in their first season in England. I don’t have a problem with people pointing out the flaws of the team because there are a lot. But the manager can’t be blamed for it because he hasn’t been able to get rid of the dross nor has the players been able to play his system. managers don’t play the way of the club, they have their own identity and purchase players to play their system. So of course it’ll take time. what I don’t understand is, why is emery not being given time ?

  49. Goobergooner

    Pierre,

    I agree, our attack is not the problem, what I was trying to say is that the press is a different tactic Emery is implementing and it is at least showing some promise.

    The defence is a massive problem. And the midfield is still a problem, even though torreira seems to be an upgrade (actually having bought the right player for a position we have needed for years!)

    Look, I know Emery hasn’t lit things up, and he is definitely fair game for criticism, as his team selections and formation hasn’t been what we would have expected.

    But you really can’t argue with results. We have been shit against the top 4 (now 6) for years. Did you seriously expect Emery to come into his first two games against 2 of the best teams in the league and win?

    If yes then you really are a lost cause.

    Isn’t it just amazing that I can appreciate we aren’t playing good football, but also can acknowledge where this team has come from, and yet still enjoy the fresh start.

    Emery is not bigger than the club, we will never have the Wenger situation again (hopefully).

  50. Goobergooner

    The difference in all this is that the criticism of Emery was never applied to Wenger by these same fans year after year.

    Useless pricks

  51. Leftsidesanch

    Seems as if every Vic that comes on this site must act like an idiot, and as for Pierre the less said the better.

    Look at them, all of a sudden have these super high standards that we must be reaching 8 games in but there was never a criticism to Wenger for the garbage he gave us for 10 years +.

  52. Pierre

    Goobergooner

    You was doing so well there being the voice of reason until the “useless pricks ” remark .

    So you are basically saying the same thing as me and a few others who get slated on here for giving constructive criticism.

    Your concerns for the defence and midfield are correct and I am sure you must be baffled by the Ramsey position as our no.10…..maybe you even regard our 2 full backs bombing forward without protection is not quite what we need atm.

  53. Pierre

    What about you Leftsidesanch,any thoughts ….

    are you in agreement with goobergooner in that “his team selections and formation hasn’t been what we would have expected” …..or maybe you agree with him that “The defence is a massive problem. And the midfield is still a problem”

    Because to me ,it looks like there is not much difference in any of our concerns .

  54. Leftsidesanch

    Pierre

    Those criticisms aren’t the problem. Emery isn’t immune to criticism and I’m not sure where it’s been said otherwise. The difference is, we want those issues to be ironed out for the good of the team so we can yield better results.

    You openly/proud state those criticisms to stick the boot into Emery and you give off the impression you would rather we didn’t succeed to push off the agenda that you and a few of your kind regularly promote on here.

  55. Goobergooner

    Pierre you are one slippery gypsy.
    The difference in our concerns is that 9 games in and I’m not having a cry because we aren’t playing brilliant football.

  56. Goobergooner

    Leftside

    It’s the agenda that is the worst part. Sitting their all smug because they think that the” I told you so” day is coming.

    It was actually predicted for years how these clowns would act to the new manager, lo and behold these shameless few are here and being dim as usual.

  57. Goobergooner

    Also Pierre, don’t get me wrong, I have a lot more time of day for you than some others I was responding to. Excuse my cuss’

  58. Michael24

    Exactly, I took no pride in ridiculing Wenger. Nevertheless, after a decade of consistent and predictable failures of judgement by a supposed intelligent and experienced manager/coach, what more could you expect.

    Of course, most normal people would have been aware of their own failings and shortcomings, but in the case of Wenger, it was never that straight forward.

    He lived off his own hype and patronised and disrespected those who ever questioned him. Mourinho is reacting the same way. Two different managers but both with the same “you can’t touch me, you can’t disrespect me” philosophies.

    Of course Emery should not be above any form of criticism, but at the same time when you’ve boarded a sinking ship, after it’s already been hit by the iceberg; to refloat it, save all the passengers and crew and point it in the right direction once again, is not an easy matter.

    Give him time.

    All hands on deck!!

  59. Leftsidesanch

    Goober, exactly that and also agree about Pierre. As much as Pierre irritates he’s not the worst to speak to. Those two Vic characters are insufferable.