A culture built on grit

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September column from the excellent Jonathan Blaustein. Enjoy!

As a kid, I grew up on the martial arts/action movies of the 1980’s, and then went down the Jackie Chan/Bruce Lee rabbit hole in the mid-90’s.

Kung Fu movies are cool, without question, which is why Quentin Tarantino fetishized them so well in Kill Bill Volumes 1 and 2. (Of course there was plenty of Samurai-movie-porn going on there too.)

I never thought I was the kind of guy who’d learn martial arts, as I punked out of studying Aikido a couple of times because it was too slow to be functional, and I was just plain lazy.

Now that I’m in my 40’s, a sneaky-powerful time of life, (truth be told,) I’ve settled into a Wing Chun Kung Fu routine that makes me stronger, and as it’s based upon Qi Gong, or Chinese moving meditation, it also helps chill me out.

My main training partner is the equivalent of a black belt who weighs 220 lbs. He can bench press 400, also knows Aikido, and is a power-lifting security guard, so dealing with him is a challenge each time.

But other than getting thrown to the mats a lot, (as ours is an aggressive style of Wing Chun,) I never get punched. Or kicked. We practice in a collaborative way, and almost all of the violence is hypothetical.

I get to have my cake and eat it too, as the martial arts style is flowing and fun, and the skills would likely, hopefully, probably translate in a street fighting situation.

Possibly. Probably.

Yes, Wing Chun is designed to be vicious, as we aim for the throat and the eyes, but still. I sweat a tiny bit, and my kit stays clean, as the English say.

But a few months ago, I started occasionally training Brazilian Jiujitsu too, as it’s the predominant art at the dojo where I study. (Kung Fu has a tiny following there compared to the house specialty.)

Since then, and this is only in 6 classes mind you, I’ve scraped my foot so bloody that took two weeks to heal, cracked my head on a dude’s hip bone during a takedown and almost passed out, sweated through my underwear, t-shirt and gi each time, gotten kicked so hard in the shin it brought up a welt, been tossed up and over someone’s head so I landed on my neck, and then, this week, of course, I got kneed in the balls.

People have rubbed their sweaty bodies over mine, many times, and crushed my windpipe in a choke out, my head in a pincer, and my elbow in an armbar.

To say this shit is brutal is perhaps over-simplifying.

I’ll take my Kung Fu over this Japanese-Brazilian hodgepodge every day of the week, though. It’s graceful, cool, and stylish, and I think it will work. (Probably.)

But without question, the new training is toughening me up. These guys like to bleed, (they say so openly,) and I’ve seen a dude carted off for injury twice in six classes.

(How do you like those odds?)

What I’m getting at is that in sports, winners need grit. They have to be mentally and physically tough. They need to know how to win ugly, and these rules hold true in almost all cases.

From football to American Football to MMA to basketball to rugby to swimming to speed skating.

Arsenal Football Club are still in so many ways a product of the Late-Wenger rot. It culminated with winter capitations in two consecutive seasons, and that ghastly run of away defeats in the first half of ’18.

It was clear to any and all that Wenger’s teams lacked mental toughness at the least, and physical toughness in many cases too. Credit where it’s due on those FA Cups, (in particular the Man City>Chelsea double,) but over the course of the Premier League season, and in the Champions League, Wenger’s team was as brittle as a piece of salt water taffy that’s been left in a closet for 8 years.

(Editor’s note: I wrote this article BEFORE the Petr Cech story dropped on Monday.)

Unai Emery’s first job was to instill some spine, and some guts, into Wenger’s team. At any given time, Guendouzi/Torriera and Sokratis are the only players on the pitch that didn’t play under Wenger.

In most cases, a coach with 7 games under his belt, coming in after a dude who held court for 22 years, and we’d all be patient. Especially after five wins straight.

Each to his own opinion and all, but I very much like what I see with the Emery-era-Gunners.

Sure, the lack of fluency is not exactly fun. The first half of the Everton game being a great example of flat football, no passes strung together, no quickness of movement.

Nada. I get it.

And sure, Everton cut through Arsenal multiple times and should have scored. But how many times do we say that about lesser opponents: they should have scored?

The truth is that only the big teams have the kind of clinical strikers and forwards that can score when the pressure is on. Most of the small-to-middling teams miss most of these chances against bigger opposition.

Time and again.

Arsenal, on the other hand, now have two players who can summon a moment of magic to win a game. (RVP was the last to do it consistently over a season, and Alexis for months at a time, but rarely more.)

Alexandre Lacazette and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang have proven that they can make something out of nothing, and they will finish most of the presentable chances as well.

There is front-line talent on this team, a few truly exciting midfield prospects, and a defense that needs more athleticism and cohesion. But rebuilds take years for a reason, and you can bet that Raul and Sven will spend on the backline in the coming windows.

To respond to the Man City pasting and the close Chelsea away loss, in which the opposition showed off that “winner’s mentality,” Emery’s team went out and won 5 consecutive matches, including away in the North of England, and dispatched all comers.

Remember, this coach expressly said he’d rather win games 5-3 or 3-2 instead of 1-0, which means he’s not going to park the bus. But he also tipped off that he knew he didn’t have the defensive talent to run through the EPL ripping off clean sheets like I discard bandaids from my sweaty, bloody hand.

I like the winner’s spirit, and think that if these guys often play halves in which it looks like they’ve barely played together, and that they have a new coach, it’s because they’ve barely played together and they have a new coach.

Great teams build culture over time, and develop cohesion by working together over seasons, not weeks.

Unai Emery has taken a team of Wenger’s guys, who weren’t winning when they should, and now they are.

That is a huge improvement, out of the gate. The fluency and free-flowing football will come with time, but only if the wins keep coming.

Winning breeds confidence, and confidence breeds success.

Let’s see where it all stands in a month, as I think we’ll know a lot more then.

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  1. China

    As a guy with Jewish blood from my mum’s side I can honestly say no part of the world appeals to me less than Israel

    I really don’t have the energy to involve myself in the debate about who or what is right when it comes to land between peoples who have laid claim to it for centuries/millennia

    I don’t really know who is right and it seems like you need to be a doctor of history to even scratch the surface of this mess. It appears to just be such an angry part of the world.

    I’d rather be as far away from that mess as possible. Funnily enough I guess I am lol

  2. China

    It’s also pretty awful that whilst pretty much all major religions promote peace and loving thy neighbor, the countries which is a spiritual motherland for many of them is one of the world’s hot beds of hate and aggression

    Like if any of their gods really exist I sincerely doubt they would be impressed at all by the way this spiritual heartland is torn apart by the believers even in 2018.

  3. China

    If the believers spent my time following the peaceful and kind words of their gods instead of blowing each other apart perhaps they could agree a solution between them

    Just a novel idea…

  4. Joe

    KC

    Don’t need to watch CNN. Every news station in the world was showing every country’s leaders laughing at the trumptard yesterday.

    MAGA. Haha

    41 more days before he gets muzzled.

  5. GuNZ

    Ladies, Gentlemen, and Rainbow People of Le Grove. I love you all. I love all mankind. Fuck it, I’d shag an ugly alien in the interests of galactic harmony. Llamas have lovely eyes and I love them too. I even help ants that have got trapped down the bog bowl. Love the planet and its myriad wonders in all their diversity and, hopefully, one day it will love us back.
    I have drunk rather a lot of Lion Red this afternoon but I would stand my ground on this.

  6. grooveydaddy

    ES

    Of course no other top club would have held on to either of those two.

    Like I said, it was beyond stupid that we did.

  7. UTarse

    “I have a couple of Jew friends that really digged firing 50 cals into the West Bank. They fucking loved it.”

    I guessed you were a cunt. It’s a football blog ffs.

  8. un na naai

    Joe you prick
    I lived in oz for a year
    Hahaha
    And no, you’re completely wrong. Australia have one of the best border policies in the world
    Yes there ARE immigrants there who arrived from Greece, Lebanon and China when they were taking in from those countries but we are talking about today and today Australia has a strict policy and a points system doopid

  9. gonsterous

    another game, another win, the arse keeps marching on. I won’t take welbz performance too seriously since its only Brentford, but I will say that iwobi is turning into a good player this season. Playing very well. Should drop ozil, play mhiki in CAM and iwobi in LM. Then get in a proper RM to replace ramsey come January.

  10. gonsterous

    unnai

    the reason why there are so many Chinese in Australia is because their border policy is flawed. Basically if you are rich or have money, you can get a visa and buy a flat there. Once you own a flat, it’s a given that you will inherit the citizenship in a couple years time. Maybe it’s not a flaw but it’s a loophole.
    parents of international students get work visas and can stay in Aus as long as the student is studying.
    Immigration for refugees are a different thing ,most have no money and place to stay so of course they are all pushed to new Zealand.

  11. gonsterous

    China

    religion is just a fight about who’s imaginary friend is better.
    I don’t get some of the Muslim people though, I’m all for them getting a mosque in Germany or England. Yes freedom of religion should be granted to everyone. But the same folks are really against building a church in their home land of syria or Afghanistan or where ever they live. It’s just a culture of “give-me” but I won’t give you.

  12. GuNZ

    NZ’s annual refugee quota currently stands at something ridiculously low (750 from memory). There is now debate about doubling it. By the very Gods, we will be overrun!
    Anyway, Arsenal 3 Watford 1 – I quite fancy a top four this year. We’ll hopefully be there or thereabouts.

  13. TonyD

    “Charlie you spend a lot of time on here calling out Bamford but frankly i don’t see the difference between you two.”

    Charlie boy’s #emerygate is picking up pace nicely

  14. gonsterous

    double think

    there was an article I read a couple months back where some Muslim (terrorists I assume ) bombed a church that was being built as well as killed a lot of children in a Catholic school that had been built. The country escapes me but it was in a Muslim based country. Something to do with not allowing Christians to practise their religion in the land of Allah.

  15. HighburyLegend

    “Who wants to build a church in Afghanistan?”

    AW ?? After building the Emirates Stadium ALL BY HIMSELF, he is determined to mark history even more.

  16. DM

    Phd – sorry I had to go to bed! I’ll answer a few of your points briefly here but then I think I’ll have to stop as this isn’t really the place for it. You seem to be genuinely interested so happy to do my best to give some answers.

    “You say,being Torah-observant and an Orthodox Jew is the same thing-right?
    If that is the case,would you subscribe to being an Orthodox Jew?Or just a Torah-observant Jew?”

    Yes, I am an orthodox Jew. I am a Torah-observant, Orthodox Jew. If I think about it I’d say that the only need for the word “orthodox” is because, I suppose, there are other sects of Judaism, such as reform and masorti (and others), who I guess would consider themselves to also be Torah-observant, although they are certainly not considered to be observant to Orthodox jews.

    “As a Torah-observant Jew believes in the religious zionist movement-that is in the creation of the “State of Israel”-right?
    An Orthodox Jew does not believe or hold religious zionist convictions,but believes in the ‘Land of Israel’-right?”

    NOT right. Let’s forget the term “Torah-observant” for now, as, like I said, anyone can claim themselves to be Torah-observant, but they can interpret the Torah in a totally different way. So let’s be more specific by saying just “Orthodox” Jews.
    Orthodox Jews – like I said in my post – the huge majority DO believe in the state of Israel.

    “Secondly,you mentioned that Orthodox Jews,are a “huge miniority.”
    Previously you said,they form an “incredibly small minority.”
    So,which is it?Orthodox Jews form a huge minority?Or an incredibly small minority?”

    I didn’t say this. I said Orthodox Jews who do NOT believe in the State of Israel are a huge minority. The majority DO believe in it.

    The rest is hard to answer point for point, and would take forever. You obviously know a lot about Herzl et al. One thing to mention is that Zionism is not a religion. As I’m sure you know, Zionism is the belief that the Jewish people have a right to self-determination in their ancestral homeland. Most Jews are Zionists, for fairly obvious reasons, but so are many non-Jews. Of course, some Jews are not Zionists.

    I am Jewish. Religious, Orthodox, etc. I am a Zionist, as are almost all of my friends. I have a lot of family living in Israel. I am going on holiday there next week myself. There are dozens upon dozens of Muslim/Islamic countries in the world (well over 40). There are of course many many Christian countries, one of which I live in, and love (the UK). There is only one Jewish country, and this is Israel. But, like the Christian one I live in, Israel gives full rights to all its citizens, no matter their race, religion or beliefs. Whereas Jews have been expelled from pretty much every Muslim country — look up the Jews of Iraq as an example, but everywhere is like that, in fact my own dad had to leave his birthplace of Libya — Muslims are welcome in Israel, and live quite happily alongside Jews and other Israelis.

    “..no right of return for Palestinians that fled during the Nakba”

    It’s a shame you use that word. “Naqba” is a loaded word. It means “catastrophe” and is the word that Muslims use to describe the 1948 agreement. Let’s be clear, Jews have had their own “Naqbas” throughout millennia. They didn’t have a dozen other countries to go to instead, they had absolutely nowhere and were always subject to the whims of the governments/rulers they were living under at the time. In 1948, the UN proposed that the land formerly known as Palestine would become Israel and would be split between the Jews and Muslims. It’s basically the two-state solution that so many are calling for now (myself included). The Jews said YES. The Muslims said NO. But they didn’t just say no. They attacked from the new country from all corners, starting a war, and they told the Muslims who were currently living in the country to NOT accept citizenship, or else. They then lost the war, and thus began the refugee crisis.

    “Is it not the case,that Uganda and Madasgascar were first offered us a potential homeland for the European Jews to the Zionist leaders,who dismissed these suggestions out of hand.Insisting on Palestine as their main and only goal.”

    There’s an old saying about this. The Jews were offered Uganda as their land, but were interested only in Israel. The old Chief Rabbi (I think? It’s an old story so have forgotten the source) used to tell people who couldn’t understand why, that it’s like saying to a man visiting his old mother in her home, Why are you travelling 30 miles to visit her when there are so many old women living right here on your road!

    “Were there not Sephardic Jews and Mirzahi Jews living in Palestine at the time,who were not at all familiar with Zionism?Who were happy living side-by-side as neigbours- as brothers in arms?Just some questions,I hope you can answer.As,it might help to give me more insight and enlighten me.”

    I don’t know about them not being familiar with Zionism – possibly? – but there STILL ARE many Jews – Sephardi, Mizrachi, Ashkenazi, everything – who live very happily side by side with their Muslim neighbours, and vice versa. Go to Israel and you will see the cities are completely mixed. You go to the supermarkets and there are Jews, Muslims and Christians. You go to the parks and see the same. All over, they mix and generally have no problems. It is only extremists (and granted there are some on both sides, but unfortunately the whole of Gaza is run by them) who do not want this.

    I know it’s so easy to blame the media, and people often don’t believe it when you say that they warp reality, but I have been countless times and have seen it all first hand. Israel is a diverse and wonderful place. Not perfect, by no means. But where is? It is a beacon of hope and democracy in a sea of demoCRAZY. Yes, it’s the JEWISH homeland (the ONLY Jewish state on this planet), but it is the HOME of millions of Muslims, Christians and all others too. And just as I, a Jew, enjoy living in this Christian country, millions of non-Jews enjoy living in that Jewish country.

    Really gotta go now! Not sure I’ll have a chance to look back at replies but will try to later if there are any. Apologies to all who have no interest in this topic. NOW BACK TO THE ARSENAL 😉

  17. Moe

    Well Guns, hate to burst your bubble but the peasant Mau Mau handed your old man his ass……….bet he didn’t fully disclose that to you.

  18. un na naai

    Well said DM

    I’ve thoroughly enjoyed reading your posts over the last 12 hours. It’s nice to get a sense of who some people are and their thoughts and background too. Wether you agree or not most of the discourse has been highly respectful (winding up aside) and it’s quite refreshing.
    Well done

  19. Wenker-wanger

    More than a football blog….I would say I’ve learned something but that would be a stretch….same old arguing around the edges of the real issue…human brainless thinking and non-enlightenment.
    Aliens are in the wings…..prevented by the c a b a l do your research…..

  20. Black Hei

    HighburyLegend

    Lol, from the quickest to the longest!

    I enjoyed DM’s post ; though I can’t say that the current right-wing Israeli government can be described as a beacon of hope.

  21. Pierre

    Klopp saying “we gave them space in midfield ,we need to rectify this”.after last night’s game v Chelsea.

    I’m not sure these are words that will come from Emery’s mouth due to the fact that it doesn’t seem to concern him.

    It’s the no.10 position that confuses me…last night smith-rowe played that position which previously has been occupied by Ramsey.

    Our no.10 is operates in a more destructive force than a creative force and is regularly operating in front of our striker and wide players chasing down defenders and the keeper.

    Against Brentford last night ,our dodgy spell came after we conceded and we looked open through midfield enabling Brentford to attack our back 4.

    Did we change our approach to the game during that period ,no not at all …..our no.10 and wide players were still operating in the opponent’s half ,leaving our midfield totally exposed and overrun.

    How difficult would it have been to ask our no.10 (Ramsey came on for smith-rowe) to sit in and create a 3 man midfield and ask the wide players (iwobi and Mhkitaryan)to sit in until we regain control of the match….

    This never seems to happen in our difficult periods in games and sooner or later we will get punished for it as it has only been through luck or poor finishing that we have not conceded more.

    Emery’s philosophy appears to be keep pushing forward even when we look exposed which we give us exciting football but will not win us the league but make continue our recent tradition of being a Good cup side.

    I suppose it is what it is .

  22. HighburyLegend

    With the squad we have, which has been wengerized for a decade, I seriously wonder which other manager could win the PL.

  23. Pierre

    Leg end
    Do you think it is wise to play in such an open expansive way taking into account our recent history under our previous manager who also played a similar style …was you not expecting something different.

  24. Cesc Appeal

    Arsenal are still very much interested in Pepe it seems, looks as if he was one Mislintat wanted in the summer but we couldn’t get it done.

    Other clubs are sniffing now like United.

    Looking at his stats, watching some clips of him and reading up on him he does seem to be what we need. Though obviously I don’t have a consistent picture from watching game after game. Seems a big, strong, fast, direct winger with a good goals and assist output.

    Land him and a CAM/CM in January and we would look stronger down the stretch trying to land 4th to then build again in the summer.

    Would also mean two more Wenger players drop out of the starting line up. You can see the difference between players like Guendouzi and Torreria in terms of effort and most of the others. The only players who seem to have responded to the new methods are Cech and Iwobi who is really putting a shift in every game. Potentially Lacazette as well who is really busy, in fact his work rate got him that goal last night.

  25. un na naai

    Been saying for weeks that we should start with welbz and iwobi over ozil and Ramsey and you muppets have been laughing at me.

    I’ll accept apologies online or written form….

  26. un na naai

    4 goals for. Welbz in 1 start and iwobi has impressed whenever he’s played. I’d try both of them with Mkhitaryan and put Lacazette ahead of them. Gives us a lot of variety.

  27. China

    Receding it seems quite a few are interested in other topics like politics and music otherwise the blog wouldn’t descend into these topics for any extended length of time as they do

    I am not enlighten on the finer workers of the situation in Israel or some of the other topics but I don’t think people need to only talk about football. People can talk about what they like regardless of if others are interested. If it’s football only then Pedro will need to make that clear. If not it’s a free for all topic wise – I’m ok with either

  28. gonsterous

    arsenal are doing well so they have to moan about something. Come here when arsenal lose and everyone will be debating football, mainly how arsenal have picked the wrong man to manage the club.

  29. Stefano14

    China

    ‘People can talk about what they like regardless of if others are interested. If it’s football only then Pedro will need to make that clear. If not it’s a free for all topic wise – I’m ok with either’

    It’s evident you struggle with physical friends to talk about other subjects and topics but this is a football blog as simple as that.

    Talk to your wife more, make more friend, confide in your colleagues. Le Grove isn’t the place to resolve your Chinese isolation issues.

  30. Bamford10

    Don / Un na

    Both Paulinho and I have long said that Welbeck can be a useful player for us, despite his weaknesses. So you’re not really out on your own there.

    As for Iwobi, I have to differ with you. I don’t think he was actually all that good last night — though he did bring energy and battle to the match, as always — and I don’t think he is skillful or technical enough to be in the XI.

    For me Iwobi is something like the Francis Coquelin of wide players (save not quite as impactful): lots of energy, lots of fight, not enough ability.

  31. Emiratesstroller

    Somehow I do not believe that Arsenal would withdraw an offer made to Ramsey as is being suggested by some of the media UNLESS they know already that the player and/or his agent have absolutely no intention of signing a new contract with the club.

    The idea that Arsenal would voluntarily allow such a player to leave in the Summer on a Bosman without a fight is ridiculous.

    I think that Ramsey wants to leave and most probably his Agent who is a one
    trick pony with no other major players on his books is looking for a massive
    personal payday.

    The situation smells very much like the outcome with Can when he left Liverpool in the Summer and by all accounts the agent secured a nine figure
    [over £10 million] commission on the deal.

    That deal is one of the reasons that UEFA are apparently looking at agents fees
    and suggesting that players and not clubs should be responsible for the finances of their agents.

  32. China

    Cesc as much as we need a CM, and winger I think a classy CB is probably more important than the CM.

    As flawed as he is, xhaka has been reasonable when alongside Torreira. I’d say priority should be winger and CB.

    We need a *real* cb. Kos is good but aging and injury prone. I feel like Pappa might be good enough as a second CB but I’d kill for a classy, dominant CB alongside him as a long term option.

    Maybe holding or Mav can step up. I hope so but I won’t hold my breath. It’s a huge ask going for a young PL bench CB to a dominant CB of european stature

  33. China

    Welbeck is welcome in my books provided he costs less than 70k a week and is no higher than our 3rd choice winger and 4th choice CF.

    It’s ok to have squad players like him imo, el neny is too, but their wages should be minimal.

  34. Bamford10

    I should’ve said “not enough quality” rather than “not enough ability” in my point above re Iwobi / Coquelin.

  35. un na naai

    Bamford

    We have seen a much improved and more committed iwobi this season so far. He’s added drive and verve to his game but his decision making in the final third requires attention. It’s almost like he runs out of brain power once he reached the box.

    And bam bam, I didn’t personally single you out there, I was talking generally. Most on here consider welbeck to be useless because he’s not a prolific scorer but I feel once he’s given a run of games and accrues confidence his goal tally will improve. His general all round play is fine and his work rate is exemplary both going forward and defensively. If only ozil and Ramsey would take note

  36. DM

    Stefano14

    Nope. I classify myself as modern Orthodox. The ones with the sideburns you’re talking about (called Peyot) are more Ultra-Orthodox, including Chassidim, Chareidim, etc. They tend to wear all the black long robes and high socks etc (I find this a fairly revolting look, I’ll admit, although I do have plenty of friends and even some family who wear this). Modern Orthodox believe in the same stuff and keep the same laws, but tend to base ourselves more in the modern world – hence the love of football! We watch TV, internet, etc, whereas the ultra-Orthodox may not do that and tend to keep themselves to themselves. I wear regular clothes (currently jeans and a t shirt) and my hair (sideburns et al) is normal, but I do wear a kippah (skullcap/yarmulke).

  37. un na naai

    China

    4th choice striker?? Who’s the third?
    Trust me. If emery give him a run you’ll be singing a different tune. Welbz is a player but he is a confidence player and needs a good run and the backing of his manager, injury free.

  38. un na naai

    China

    Agree on the centre back issue. It’s the most pressing team matter as far as New blood is concerned. Harry Maguire for me. He’d be perfect. Plus he’s English.

  39. Receding Hairline

    I should’ve said “not enough quality” rather than “not enough ability” in my point above re Iwobi / Coquelin.

    Yea you should have ..as Iwobi is not lacking in ability. Nor do i think he lacks in quality either .

  40. Dissenter

    Emirates,
    “Somehow I do not believe that Arsenal would withdraw an offer made to Ramsey as is being suggested by some of the media UNLESS they know already that the player and/or his agent have absolutely no intention of signing a new contract with the club”

    It could be that Arsenal has a better player lined up for a transfer in January. One that can actually play the central midfield properly.
    At some point you withdraw the offer when negotiations are stalled and you don’t think the other side is negotiating to resolve it. We may very well have his replacement lined up. That’s how a club ought to operate.

    I just wish we freeze him. We need to start to give Iwobi and Emile Smith Rowe more opportunities.

  41. Dissenter

    Bamford
    You have this Trumpian trait of rigidly sticking to a failed position .
    I wonder what game you were watching when you came out and said that Iwobi didn’t have a good game.
    Iwobi has made a significant improvement under Emery. He’s been one of our better players this season.
    This coming from one who was skeptical about his new contract.

    My best moment from the Everton game was Iwobi doing a one-man press that led to Pickford kicking the ball out. We wouldn’t have had as much problems in that game had he started ahead of Ramsey.
    The kid is destined for great things.

  42. Stefano14

    DM
    Thanks for clearing that up and wasn’t taking the piss. Just ignorant and unexposed to the different variations that’s all.

  43. Receding Hairline

    Iwobi has embraced the regime change and i see him becoming one of the players Emery trusts going forward.

    He can beat a man and pick a pass, if he improves his finishing he will be a very good player. I guess those trying to play down his ability are simply doing so hoping some one more expensive will be brought in..

  44. China

    Una I’d give 3rd to nketiah if he’s up to much in training

    I disagree on welbeck. I think he’s started this season ok, but he’s about 28 and his scoring record is really poor and has been for his entire career

    He’s something like a 1 goal in 5 striker throughout his career and he has a habit of scoring more than once in the same game when he does before going on another long barren streak. He has a great engine and is a selfless work horse for the team but those are his only strengths imo

    He’s not a finisher, he’s not strong on the ball, he’s not good in the air or a great passer etc. there is some use for a pacey work horse but iwobi can do all the same stuff that welbeck can do and a bit more (I’m not iwobi’s n1 fan mind). By all means welbeck can stay in my book but he should by no means be on a high salary or blocking the progression of an up and coming striker with a lot of potential.

    Welbeck has been injury prone his whole life and has never been good enough to be a safe starter, so even if he could come good after a run of games, I don’t see where that run can come from

  45. Pierre

    Come players can play up to their usual standard when less than 100% fit ….welbeck can’t …

    Shame really as he is a decent player when fit …

  46. Bamford10

    Dissenter

    Nonsense. One, I was talking about last night’s game, a game I was watching in real time as my made my initial comments about Iwobi, and a game you have not mentioned at all while defending him.

    (Yes, he had an assist last night, but anyone who goes back and watches the game again will see that half of his touches/passes last night were average to poor. And the real class on that goal, btw, came from Mkhitaryan.)

    Two, I acknowledged that he brings energy and work-rate; however, that is only one part of what a good footballer brings to a game. Quality is another, and Iwobi doesn’t have enough of this to be in the first XI. Not in my opinion.

    “The kid is destined for great things,” you say. I look forward to circling back to this comment in the future, as I don’t think there’s any chance you’re right on this front. He has work-rate and a bit of dribbling; nothing else. Not a great passer of the ball, not a great striker of the ball, not a ton of vision. He’ll be a serviceable squad player, IMO; nothing more.

    And I don’t mean any offense by this whatsoever, but you’re Nigerian by heritage, yes? I think there’s a chance you’re seeing more with your heart here than with your eyes.

    Time will tell who’s right, I guess.

  47. Michael24

    Welbeck deserves credit for his attitude alone. If he can stay fit and healthy, we may yet see the best of him.

    To be honest, I would prefer to keep him and lose Ramsey.

    What would we get for Ramsey if we sold him in January?

  48. Bamford10

    Receding

    No, you’re right: I can totally see us competing with City and Liverpool for the title with Alex Iwobi as one of our starting wide players. He’s definitely on par with the likes of Sane, Sterling, Mahrez, Silva, Salah and Mane.

  49. Champagne charlie

    “What would we get for Ramsey if we sold him in January?“

    Both Paulinho and Banford comically backtracking on previous assertions..

    Oh you meant money? 20 mil?

  50. Bob N16

    I think Iwobi looks physically stronger and certainly a better player this season. If he continues to improve, those who have written him off may have to eat some humble pie…

  51. Bamford10

    Michael

    I think Ramsey has nine months left on his contract, so that may complicate selling him, i.e., teams may just wait to get him on a free or they might try to sign him for a cut-rate price.

    Given how low an estimation many here have of him, however, some people would probably take whatever money someone were to offer.

    I personally am not of this school of thought. I think we would’ve been better off selling him this summer (if we weren’t going to manage to re-sign him,) but I also think he’s a quality player who, when on form, can be of value to us.

  52. Michael24

    B10

    “You’re Nigerian by heritage” and you say you don’t want to offend.

    Rather ignorant and patronising don’t you think?

    There is absolutely no way you are a lecturer/teacher. No fudging way!

    You’d be hung drawn and quartered by your own students if you were.

    Is it a deliberate plot of yours to act like an asshole or does it just come naturally?

  53. Pierre

    Michael
    Personally I think Europe look strong enough and confident enough to win it.

    USA have probably their strongest team ever (on paper) but I have a feeling that we will come out of the blocks firing…

    Will be a superb watch for the next 3 days.

  54. Pierre

    I have said all along that Ramsey will be gone/going…

    He obviously has a higher opinion of himself than the club have of him..

  55. Bamford10

    Michael

    There’s absolutely nothing “offensive” about what I said to Dissenter there. It would be like if I had a super high estimation of Christian Pulisic and someone said, “Bamford, I think your being American is influencing your thinking here.”

    I only said “I don’t mean to offend” because one has to be super cautious these days lest someone take you the wrong way. And sure enough, you have!

    Last night you said something about my comments being baffling. No offense, but I think this is more your own inability to read and comprehend things that are written here than it is that I have “baffling” views.

    Cheers all the same.

  56. Receding Hairline

    And I don’t mean any offense by this whatsoever, but you’re Nigerian by heritage, yes? I think there’s a chance you’re seeing more with your heart here than with your eyes.

    Nonsense

    You really are a very annoying individual

  57. Pierre

    Bamford
    “No, you’re right: I can totally see us competing with City and Liverpool for the title with Alex Iwobi as one of our starting wide players. He’s definitely on par with the likes of Sane, Sterling, Mahrez, Silva, Salah and Mane.”

    speechless.

  58. Receding Hairline

    I can totally see us competing with City and Liverpool for the title with Alex Iwobi as one of our starting wide players. He’s definitely on par with the likes of Sane, Sterling, Mahrez, Silva, Salah and Mane.

    Rubbish post that has nothing to do with the point being made.

  59. Receding Hairline

    I can totally see us competing with City and Liverpool for the title with Alex Iwobi as one of our starting wide players. He’s definitely on par with the likes of Sane, Sterling, Mahrez, Silva, Salah and Mane.

    Saying Iwobi had a good game last night or has upped his game this season does not in any way stop those in charge of transfers from buying better places when the opportunity arises . It is also in your twisted mind Bamford where you believe what is said here somehow impacts on the overall direction of the club or the decisions they make.

    I think it’s about time you drop your twitter handle and hump off again..or didn’t you receive the amount of follows from Le grove you anticipated when you pulled the stunt the first time??

  60. Pierre

    Carts
    “January. So we’re selling Ramsey in January?!”

    If Ramsey doesn’t want to go then Ramsey stays until the end of the season..the club cannot make him leave.

  61. Emiratesstroller

    Dissenter

    That may well be the case but losing constantly players on Bosmans who have
    a significant transfer value is not frankly good business.

    Arsenal have got into this situation with far too many players in recent years.

    On this occasion my view is that Arsenal know already that Ramsey is not
    going to sign a new contract whatever offer is being put to the agent. Clubs
    do get feedback when an agent is acting in an unprofessional or dishonest
    way.

    As to finding a replacement my guess is that Smith-Rowe is being lined up as
    a replacement, but whether he is the finished article at this stage of career is
    debatable. Nevertheless he will be a much cheaper option than Ramsey.

  62. Cesc Appeal

    If Ramsey wants to go then we should drop him from the EPL side, give him Europa League games and some cup games. He needs to keep sharp so cannot afford to play like shit in those games.

    Apparently the whole Pogba situation at United has meant that Martial and Bailly have both taken sides with him and want to leave. I would try to make a Ramsey swap deal with Bailly work, even if we had to add some cash as well. To be honest I’d swap Ozil for Bailly as well if United genuinely were interested in him.

    The type of defensive game Emery plays, the high line, means someone like Bailly who is powerful and fast would suit it well.

  63. Batistuta

    Bamford

    You do make some very lazy comments on here most times and that quip to Dissenter about him being emotional simply because he’s Nigerian is dumb

  64. Leedsgunner

    I thought the recruitment of Huss Famny was supposed to avoid a rerun of Sanchezgate… now Ramseygate.

    Ramsey is trying it on royally with the club. He’s had his head turned by his agents to actually think he is as important to the club as Özil.

    Don’t get me wrong, Ramsey is a consummate professional and a great player to have around but he is not in the same level as Özil or Bale for that matter. If he wants that kind of money he is going to have to be that good.

    One other thing, before Ramsey thinks he is being cheated, someone should take him aside and ask him which club supported him through thick and thin after his horrendous leg break and his numerous injuries thereafter… with Ramsey it was never a couple of days was it? It was weeks and months.

    It’s like RvP all over again. Ramsey, up to this point has been very unreliable due to his injury record. But somehow, he has forgotten all about that and he’s saying to the club… “Show me the money.” I would be tempted to say, we showed you the money when you were injured again again, and again.

    Sad to see although we stood by our players, they can’t wait to leave when they think they don’t need the club anymore.

    If he has so little affinity to the club after all we have done for him, he is no better than Robin… Robin at least had the bottle to explain his reasons upfront.

    With Ramsey, it’s all about money, nothing else. Let him go if he wants to go.

  65. Champagne charlie

    Michael24

    Best we can hope for is a battle between Chelsea and United, or a desperate United. Other than that he’s gone for free in the summer. Still see us bending over to save face.

  66. PhD2020

    DMSeptember 27, 2018 09:18:43

    Hi DM,

    Thanks for your reply..I guess the discussion could run and run..but as you said,I think I wlll also call it a day..Before then,I’ll just like to mention a few points.
    Again,to understand your stance/views.

    DMSeptember 27, 2018 09:18:43
    The rest is hard to answer point for point, and would take forever. You obviously know a lot about Herzl et al. One thing to mention is that Zionism is not a religion. As I’m sure you know, Zionism is the belief that the Jewish people have a right to self-determination in their ancestral homeland. Most Jews are Zionists, for fairly obvious reasons, but so are many non-Jews. Of course, some Jews are not Zionists.”
    ———-
    Exactly this-Zionism is not a religion,but a modern(relatively speaking) nationalist and political movement,that critics claim Zionists(circa 1890’s) in essence commandeered certain parts of Judaism and used the”return to the spiritual homeland” to advance their cause for a national homeland.

    The aims were three ponged- political and nationalist in endeavour.The ‘Aliyah’-migration to the ancestral /spiritual homeland was added on,so as to give an emotional, intangible and forcible right ,as well as some kind of legitimacy to the forming of the’State of Israel.’

    Bearing in mind,that the Zionist movement,was formed by wealthy secular Europeans of prominence within the upper echelons of European society-circa 1890’s, in the face of growing anti- semitism and the pogroms European Jews were subjected to, in Europe around the 19th &20th century.

    The Jews facing persecution in Europe,were predominantly -Ashkenazi Jews.They bought into the Zionist movement(a political and nationalist movement),which is at odds with the Sephardic and Mirazhi Jews who had been residing in the Middle East for centuries,whom the majority of did not believe in Zionism.So the argument goes.

    Again the Zionist movement’s central tenets are:-
    -Creation of a national homeland for Jews(especially European Jews escaping persecution).

    -To eventually become the overwhelming majority in the “State of Israel”.

    -Sovereignty and Colonisation

    Surely these are at odds with the tenets of those that believe in the “Land of Israel?”

    DMSeptember 27, 2018 09:18:43
    It’s a shame you use that word. “Naqba” is a loaded word. It means “catastrophe” and is the word that Muslims use to describe the 1948 agreement. Let’s be clear, Jews have had their own “Naqbas” throughout millennia. They didn’t have a dozen other countries to go to instead, they had absolutely nowhere and were always subject to the whims of the governments/rulers they were living under at the time. In 1948, the UN proposed that the land formerly known as Palestine would become Israel and would be split between the Jews and Muslims. It’s basically the two-state solution that so many are calling for now (myself included). The Jews said YES. The Muslims said NO. But they didn’t just say no. They attacked from the new country from all corners, starting a war, and they told the Muslims who were currently living in the country to NOT accept citizenship, or else. They then lost the war, and thus began the refugee crisis.”
    ——-

    The 1948 mandate,which was in effect the Balfour Treaty,previously agreed upon with the Zionists,when the allies during WW1,wished to co-opt the Zionists into assisting in dismantling the Ottomans.To carve up the Middle East,in order to protect the European powers interest in the region.

    Alongside the Balfour Treaty,you also had the Sykes-Picot Agreement,which in effect was an agreement between France,UK and Russia-The Triple Entente to divide up the Middle East,into spheres of influence and control.
    France was to control Syria and Lebanon.The UK was to control Palestine,Jordan & Iraq.Given the fact,that the Arabs during WW1 were also promised national independence from the Ottomans by the allies if they were willing to co-opt into the war,which was in direct conflict with the promise by allies to the Zionists of creating a national homeland in Palestine.

    Yes,it was a case of duplicity and double-dealing by the European powers,whose main goal was maintaining world order and protecting global interests.It just so happened after the war,that the UK,felt it was in it’s best interests to afford the Zionists a national homeland,as it would serve as a check and balance in the Middle East at that time.
    The persecution of European Jews during WW2,served to hasten the need to form a national homeland,whereby mass migration ensued-mainly Ashkenazi Jews fleeing Europe to Palestine,thus creating a volatile environment.

    The displacing,expulsion and exodus of 700,000 Palestinians during this period,through the mass r.a.p.e.,murder of women and children alike,destruction of 400-600 villages, direct expulsion orders by Israeli authorities was in essence the start/catalystof the Palestinian Nakba.The right of no return for Palestinians,in light of what transpired,can be deemed to be a form of ethnic cleansing in some quarters.

    Definition of ethnic cleansing-” Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic or racial groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous. The forces applied may be various forms of forced migration, intimidation, as well as genocide and genocidal r.a.p.e.”

    Is this not in keeping in line with the Zionist ‘s tenets/beliefs:
    –Creation of a national homeland for Jews(especially European Jews escaping persecution).

    -To eventually become the overwhelming majority in the “State of Israel”.

    -Sovereignty and Colonisation.

    The demographics in Palestine (circa 1900’s):-
    657,000 Muslim Arabs-82%
    81,000 Christian Arabs-10%
    80,,000 Jews-0.07%

    The demographics in Israel today(2018):-
    6.5 million Jews-74.5%
    1.83 million Arabs(any religion,except Judaism)-20.9%
    400,000 -Other-4.6%

    Again,is the above statistics not in keeping in line with the Zionist’s tenets or beliefs?Since colonisation has been achieved, sovereignty has been achieved and being the overwhelming majority has also been achieved?

    It appears that critics imply,that Jews (Sephardic and Mirazhi) were co-existing for centuries peacefully in Palestine.It was the forcible mass migration by the Ashkenazi Jews during WW2,that destabilised the status quo in Palestine.

    I’m not sure if you are aware of the “Deir Yassin” massacre?I’ve briefly highlighted it above.

    Lastly you mentioned the wars that took place.Well quite a few took place from 1948 onwards(within the Palestinian context)..We could be here for eternity.Debating the ins/outs of the war and why.

    I think,I’ve briefly touched upon(see above),some of events that some notable scholars ,commentators and historians believe triggered the conflict (circa 1948).Citing Theodor Herzl in my previous post,WW1,dismantlement of the Ottoman Empire,Balfour Treaty,Sykes-Picot Agreement,WW2,European economic interests,Nakba,Zionist movement-all emanating from political and national motives/goals.

    As I said in the beginning,critics in the past believe that Zionists used the “return to the spiritual homeland,”as a romanticised notion,so as to engage and galvanise public and foreign government sentiment and support.To reinforce and give an emotional, intangible and forcible right ,as well as some kind of legitimacy to the forming of the’State of Israel.”

    In essence they say-“State of Israel” is a political and national movement,borne of questionable designs/motives..
    The “Land of Israel” cannot be disputed,nor can its inhabitants,without question-so they say.

    I’ll leave you with some quotes and views from Ben Gurion(the primary national founder and first Prime Minister of the “State of Israel” views.It probably gives an insight into how driven he was to achieve the Zionist’s stated objectives.
    Bearing in mind,Ben Gurion said as much,that he saw himself as being supportive of Zionism, but also described himself as an irreligious person who developed atheism in his youth and who demonstrated no great sympathy for the elements of traditional Judaism.

    “A partial Jewish State is not the end, but only the beginning. … I am certain that we well not be prevented from settling in the other parts of the country, either by mutual agreements with our Arab neighbors or by some other means. . . [If the Arabs refuse] we shall have to speak to them in another language. But we shall only have another language if we have a state.”

    “The debate has not been for or against the indivisibility of Eretz Israel. No Zionist can forgo the smallest portion of Eretz Israel. The Debate was over which of two routes would lead quicker to the common goal.”
    As quoted in Chomsky, Noam, Fateful Triangle: The United States, Israel, and the Palestinians (Updated Edition) (South End Press Classics Series).

    “In our political argument abroad, we minimize Arab opposition to us. But let us not ignore the truth among ourselves. I insist on the truth, not out of respect for scientific but political realities. A people which fights against the usurpation of its land will not tire so easily… it is easier for them to continue the war and not get tired than it is for us… The Palestinian Arabs are not alone. The Syrians are coming to help.
    But the fighting is only one aspect of the conflict which is in its essence a political one. And politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves. Militarily, it is we who are on the defensive who have the upper hand but in the political sphere they are superior. The land, the villages, the mountains, the roads are in their hands. The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country, while we are still outside. They defend bases which are theirs, which is easier than conquering new bases…”

    Address at the Mapai Political Committee (7 June 1938) as quoted in Flapan, Simha, Zionism and the Palestinians.

    I’m just elucidating a little on what some people might view differently when one is looking back on history. I suppose,it depends on what side of the fence,one is sitting on.

    Well,feel free to reply back,if you feel some of the stuff above you disagree with,or think is at odds with your stance.

    But sure,happy to continue this discussion at another time.

    Do have a good day.

  67. Champagne charlie

    Banford wouldn’t make racially insensitive comments, he’s a vocal advocate against such things. Right bud?

    At least that’s the ‘show’ when trying to undermine someone. In just the last few days however he’s said the English have a very superior POV when considering the English language, and now Dissenter’s input is down to heritage in his eyes.

    I repeat though, he’s not racist. Ask him..

  68. rollen

    DM is Arri Gold of London. I would not care if u r a scientologist or martian bud. Easy to say u r stand up human being.

    Josip did u watch the game?

  69. Childish Gambino

    Ramsey can fuck off in january. Hasnt fit in tactical to Arsenal in YEARS.

    He plays best in Shadow Striker role that he plays for Wales. He can dribble, make late runs, finish, score with flicks etc for his next team.

    But for arsenal he makes us weaker in midfield, due to lack of positional discipline.

    To be fair over the next 2 transfer windows i would like to see Ramsey, Elneny, Ozil and Xhaka sold. That’ll £760kpw gone from the wage budget.

  70. Pierre

    Carts
    We haven’t a choice ….Ramsey holds all the cards

    The best we can hope for is a swap deal similar to Sanchez/Mhkitaryan

  71. Michael24

    B10

    Actually, I think I called you an “oddball”

    This has nothing to do with whether or not I Iound what you said offensive. It centres around the fact that you say/ highlight things that are basically stupid.

    It seems you are the sort of individual who ignores advice, but can I suggest you plan out your future perceptions and inputs, before posting any future comments, to avoid the daily attacks directed at yourself.

  72. Carts

    Pierre

    No entirely true!

    If we’re being honest, Arsenal need to tell Ramsey and his reps that he should start looking for a team in January as we intend on cashing in otherwise he’d see out the remaining month in the u23s

  73. Cesc Appeal

    Ramsey has power to an extent but his stock is not that high, just like Ozil no one was breaking down our door to get him in the summer and we can drop him as well. It is not a Sanchez situation where he is obviously our best player.

    He should not be in the starting line up again.

    That means he goes through October, November and then December being a substitute and Europa League player and then either leaves in January or suffers more of the same for the rest of the season. In fact I would threaten that if he didn’t leave in January he would not play at all.

  74. Childish Gambino

    We can sell ramsey for £15M in January. Ross Barkley went for that earlier this January. Wont be missed.

    We need Diamond Eye Minslitat to find us Guendouzi like players that we can buy for between £5M -£15M. We need at least 4 new players (new CM as ramsey leaves, at least 2 wingers)

  75. Pierre

    Ramsey leaving will bring such joy to our household…

    I admit I may have brainwashed my kids against Ramsey but I make no apologies for it … ..my eldest text me at the start of the season saying “I’m not sure I can take another 3years of Ramsey if he signs a new contract”

    Made me so proud .

  76. Leedsgunner

    In not signing another CM, it’s clear now the club left itself exposed and vulnerable.

    We should have picked up another CM to flush out Ramsey’s intentions earlier than this. He’s banking on the hope that we will give in like we did for Özil.

    I’m sorry Ramsey, to me is not worth it.

  77. OleGunner

    Yeah if Ramsey talks are dead lets get the guy out in January for whatever fee we can get.

    We are not going to be held hostage to 250k per week for an slightly above average midfield player.

    Imo he is easily replaceable with someone who can contribute more than the odd scrappy goal or never ending hamstring injuries.

  78. Emiratesstroller

    I do not want to get involved in a Political Debate about Palestine or Israel on
    a Football Forum.

    However, there are stats which are far too often conveniently ignored by those
    who support the Palestine cause.

    1. There was no official census of population during Ottoman Empire. Most of
    the population figures are estimates.

    2. The first official census was held during British Mandate in 1921. The population was 757,182 [including 590,390 Muslims, 83,694 Jews, 73,024 Christians]

    3.The second and final census held during British Mandate was in 1931 where
    population increased to 1,035,821 [759,717 Muslims, 174,610 Jews and 91,398 Christians]

    4. The population continued to rise during 1930s and 1940s. Most of the growth in population from the start of Mandate was attributable to economic
    migration in case of Muslims from other parts of Middle East, North Africa and even Bosnia. Jewish growth was primarily Aliyah from Europe.

    5. The Palestinian Lobby including their supporters such as Corbyn always
    provide stats of arabs who have been forced to leave Israel in 1948 and thereafter. No-one ever discusses the stats of 800,000 Jews who were expelled in most cases penniless from Middle East and North Africa Muslim Countries. For example Jewish population in Iraq was 300,000 [inc. 20% Baghdad]. Today only perhaps 10 are left. Iran [Persia] also had 300,000 Jews of whom less than 10,000 are still there.

    6. When moral issues are discussed no-one talks about the 4,500 Jews living in Aden who under Operation Magic Carpet were compelled to leave, because of riots, pillage and murder. The Jewish Community had lived there since Biblical times.

    7. One final point the Palestinians did not have clean hands pre Second World
    War. The Mufti of Jerusalem who was a pan arabist and rabid antisemite orchestrated progroms against Jewish Community in 1930s. He was expelled by
    British and moved to Berlin during Second World War where he supported
    Hitler and Nazis. The Mufti then moved to Cairo and was architect
    of Arab League’s invasion of fledgling state of Israel in 1948.

  79. China

    I think there’s no point saying our preference is to have sold Ramsey in the summer because surely we can all (or almost all) agree on that but that ship has sailed

    We can’t undo the mistakes of the summer or previous transfer windows now. For this January just flog the git for whatever anyone will pay. If we got more than 15m it would be a steal

    But I think we have to accept that we can only cut our losses with him. Whatever we can get, we take. It’s better than the Sanchez situation because Sanchez was by far the best player in our squad. Ramsey shouldn’t even be in the first 11. If he goes to a rival so be it. He isn’t RVP. He isn’t the difference between failure and success wherever he goes.

    I’m just excited that the nonsense headache selection his bogus reputation brings will be resolved

  80. Leedsgunner

    I wonder, with all the problems Sanchez is having over at Man United, whether they would consider, a Ramsey for Sanchez swap. Alexis would have to take a pay cut mind, but I think he could play well for Emery… as Alexis presses naturally anyways… and we desperately need a scoring winger.

  81. China

    There are few things more irritating than a player who has one awesome season and rides the wave of that reputation boost for the next 5 years without ever needing to repeat it.

    Wilshere Ramsey are world champions in this art

  82. Leedsgunner

    China

    “Wilshere Ramsey are world champions in this art”

    Don’t forget Theo.

    I still can’t believe he mugged the club for years — £100k+ per week… to sit on the bench.

  83. Champagne charlie

    Apparently we rejected a £50mil offer in the summer for Rambo, but my criticisms of our leadership being weak are unjust?

    No backbone in that boardroom, he should’ve been ushered out for that money and the needs of the squad replaced.

    Ozil would be our AM, and 50 mil could’ve comfortably gotten us a CB or winger from the top shelf.

  84. Freddie Ljungberg

    Isn’t Rabiot in the same contract situation as Ramsey , haven’t heard anything about him signing a new deal?

    Xhaka and Ramsey out and Rabiot and someone like Pepe in would be a great January window for us. Could be the difference between EL and CL next year. And won’t break the bank.

    Time for the club to start being more proactive now, Emery should have had enough time by January to see who needs to be shipped out.

    Focus the summer entirely on the defence unless we can find a good solution to what to do with Ozil.

  85. Leedsgunner

    Rabiot is indeed due to go on a free this summer but apparently he won’t consider any club without Champions League football…

  86. Cesc Appeal

    Carts

    I would get rid of him in January and try to bring in someone like Brozovic to play CM. I would then have Torreria and Brozovic has starters until they showed otherwise and Guendouzi and Xhaka fighting for the other CM spot.

    Ozil then needs to be replaced in the summer with a wide playmaker and we need to bring in a winger as well. Solid middle 3 and then a direct and pacey front 3 is the way to go in my opinion and only one of Aubameyang or Lacazette can play unless we actually play 2 up front so a decision might need to be made there.

    Going forward to next season and beyond I don’t want Ramsey, Ozil, Mustafi or Xhaka in this team. You can add Bellerin as well unless he improves.

  87. Childish Gambino

    BEST FREE TRANSFER 25 AS OF SEPTEMBER 2018

    ——–De Gea———-
    Darmian—Godin—Alderwereld—Vertonghen
    ———A. Herrera———-
    —Ramsey— Rabiot——-
    Di Maria—-MArtial—-Y. Brahimi

    ——–Areola———-
    A.Toure—David Luiz—Kompany—Shaw
    ———H. Herrera———-
    —Cesc— A. Perreira——-
    Mata—-Giroud—-Welbeck

    SUBS: Moreno, Milner, Sturridge, Dembele, B.Diaz,

    WHO WOULD YOU PICK FOR US FROM THE PLAYERS

  88. Bamford10

    Batistuta

    “You do make some very lazy comments on here most times and that quip to Dissenter about him being emotional simply because he’s Nigerian is dumb.”

    Except that that isn’t at all what I said, and the intellectual laziness and sloppiness here is on your part. I said he might be partial to Iwobi because Iwobi is Nigerian and so too is he by heritage.

    As I explained, this is no different from saying that I might be partial to a Pulisic because he is an American.

    That’s a very different claim than the distortion you’ve offered above.

  89. Bamford10

    Receding

    “Rubbish post that has nothing to do with the point being made.”

    Actually, given that my point was that Iwobi isn’t good enough for our starting XI if we want to be a top team, I’d say my post was absolutely on point.

  90. Bamford10

    Wait, Charlie, because I think you harbor anti-American sentiments, I’m a racist?

    That’s a really interesting take.

  91. HighburyLegend

    “He has the Arsenal DNA
    But all he want was more money.
    Only one Aaron Ramsey.”

    I’ve find the words, you will find the melody.

  92. Freddie Ljungberg

    Leeds

    That would be a shame , he’d be perfect next to torreira and would finally bring balance to our CM.

    Maybe the new team can sell him on our vision ( if we indeed have one) .

    Wouldn’t mind Doucoure or N’Dombele either but don’t think they’ll be available in January .

  93. Dissenter

    Emirates
    “I do not want to get involved in a Political Debate about Palestine or Israel on
    a Football Forum.”

    Holy cow….because you went on to drop a 400 word comment.

    Seriously what do you do/ did you do for a living.
    Did you write insurance policies? 🙂 🙂 🙂

  94. azed

    “Seriously what do you do/ did you do for a living.
    Did you write insurance policies? 🙂 🙂 :-)”

    I would say Emirates is/was a Lawyer who worked in Communications/Legal writing all those terms and conditions / End user agreements.

  95. Dissenter

    Bamford
    For the record, I don’t see any bigoted insinuations in your reply to my Iwobi comment.
    I was mindful of whatever bias I may hold about him, which is why I added that I was openly mockingly critical of his contract extension in the summer.
    I wasn’t a big fan of Iwobi until this season.
    He’s been playing like a hungry young player, with hustle and has been a candidate for man of of the match for every game he has played.

    I insist he’s destined for great things, you obviously see it differently.

  96. Pierre

    Iwobi needs one thing….. Composure

    As yet he hasn’t got it, trying too hard to impress…

    He looks like he’s on speed half the time.
    He needs to relax and believe in himself.

  97. Champagne charlie

    “Wait, Charlie, because I think you harbor anti-American sentiments, I’m a racist?“

    It’s fuel to that fire, as is proposing that “the English” (of which i’m one) have a superiority complex over the English language, as is deducing Dissenters praise of Iwobi stems from his Nigerian heritage given several others commented in praise of Iwobi.

    There’s the reasoning for why you can be considered a racist/bigot, the fact race/ethnicity is so readily in you’re consciousness is curious enough.

    Your take that i’m “Anti-American” comes from using the work “yank”, period.. so there’s another one of your “better arguments” you supposedly possess exposed as fraudulent. Took about 30 seconds to do also.