You sense that Ivan Gazidis is about to leave Arsenal because the PR is kicking in, and ESPN are writing stories that the reason for his move isn’t cash (bitch please).
Fuck off, Ivan.
You’re leaving because you’re landing an equity incentive to turn Milan around.
Congrats.
I’m sure it’s a lot of money, but don’t try and turn the situation around. You set the vision and tone for Arsenal after being a yes man to Stan and Wenger for ten years. Then someone offered you a shit tonne of dollar to abandon a significant project that you believed in, and you took it straight away.
That’s poor leadership.
It’s weakness of the highest order.
Is it a good thing for Arsenal? No way. It’s a terrible thing. The guy who set a savagely unambitious 5-year plan in motion for the club doesn’t have the balls to see it through. He hired a safe manager, all his pals, spent all the clubs money and then bolted at the first flash of green.
I can’t stress how weak that move is.
But look, this is a someone who doesn’t give a fuck about Arsenal.
This is someone who spent 10 years unable to convince Stan K that Arsene Wenger was bombing the club he purchased. Performances slumped, commercials never rose above average, players begged to leave, no one wanted to join, the press complained, the fans booed, ex-players protested… but our CEO couldn’t convince the owner things were going down the shitter.
This is the man who stood tall in 2017 and stated he’d searched high and wide and Arsene was the best manager he could find. He’s weak, he’s submissive and I’ve no doubt he’ll be a bland hire for Milan.
Fuck Ivan.
Let’s move on and hope Stan signs someone with a bit of vision.
History judges the winners, and in sports management, that’s the trophies. Ivan will retire with a lot of money, but he’ll never be a legend of sport. No one will write about his vision. No one will write about his trophies. No one will care.
When you’re rich, the history is what’s important.
That’s his loss… and no matter what he tells himself, the money will never make up for the fact he failed at Arsenal.
Right, that’s me over and out.
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/7295385/arsenal-transfer-news-raul-sanllehi-christian-pavon/
Would be a good signing to be fair ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Lol CC
Gstar
Pavon didn’t do much for me at the World Cup if I’m honest, I know that’s a small window and some big names had a stinker, but just my take on seeing him for the first time.
I do like the idea, even if its a lazy assertion, that Raul is a ‘get shit done’ type of guy. Bored rigid of our negotiation strategies of the past decade. Still ironing out some details with Benzema so I hear…
I’ll be honest with you I always assumed that it was Pavon and not Malcom that we’d go back in for and end up with. Presumably he’ll end up slightly cheaper
The Croatian right back is the business…vrsaljko..
Champagne charlieSeptember 19, 2018 13:06:16 “And by the way, it’s spelled “naïveté”.“Naivety is a more commonly used spelling in England you hubristic cuck. Gone quiet after crying racist, why not give Alex a rest with your constant ‘harrassment’? Practice what you preach for a change. ———————– LOL.. This guy hasn’t changed one bit.Still a first class douchebag. Why he continues to harass Alexander Henry after all these years,is quite baffling. When you challenge him,it’s harassment,bordering on racism. Subsequently calling for bansAbsolutely pathetic and vomit inducing. I saw your post CC the other day,highlighting his hypocrisy.Pretty spot on,nice to see you… Read more »
Haha, what is Stefano14’s obsession with Marko? The name changes but he’s forever your go to?
Do you attend the Emirates you angry little boy?
Bamford
Naivete = Naivety [UK]
Spelled = Spelt [UK]
We [Americans] ought to realize that the language is English, not American-ese.
At least with Raul, it looks like he’s trying to do something straight away.
Pedro Dude your obituary on Gazidis is a bit rich seeing as a bunch of us posters argued to the death about how weak and spineless Gazidis is/was. You always jumped to his defence arguing that Gazidis should not be held accountable for not being able to remove Wenger. In fact when I/we said that if Gazidis has a plan and he’s blocked by Wenger he should quit out of frustration and embarrassment and one of your defences for him was, you can’t expect him to quit a well paid job and that he just needed to bide his time.… Read more »
lol
“Gazidis should not be held accountable for not being able to remove Wenger. ”
He should have been ??
“We always knew your Gazidis loving would come to bite you on your bum.”
Yuuuup
Gazidis would have been fired had he been the manger of Rams flirting with the Washington redskins.
Instead, he’s allowed to waste 3 months of the clubs time dilly- dallying about leaving for Milan.
It’s no wonder players take their contracts to the end and walk for free when there’s so much apathy in the club.
Bamford ‘One, do you still believe that Wenger would have spent more money but for Stan Kroenke tellbig him he couldn’t.’ Yes, do you still believe we stockpiled all that cash because wenger chose not to spend money available to him on principle? ‘Two, are you still of the view that we cannot compete with the top clubs if we continue to spend only what our operating revenues allow us to, i.e., if we continue to adhere to the self-sustaining model?’ Absolutely. Do you seriously think we can? ‘Three, the LA Rams are looking like one of the best teams… Read more »
I don’t think players are running down their contracts because some bald egg is coming or going at the club. In truth I really don’t think the Gazidis situation is that big of a deal.
Speaking of mediocre teams now doing well the buccaneers are playing some good stuff these days.
I’m confused, who has left the club, Bould or Pedro’s ex boyfriend ??
I’m being naive, but we’re did Kronke spend our money from if not his own?
Marko
Players are running their contracts down because there’s a failure of leadership.
From Kroenke down to Gazidis
You think Gazidis won’t have been fired had he been the LA Rams chief executive flirting with another team?
“I’m confused, who has left the club, Bould or Pedro’s ex boyfriend ??”
Ha ha.
Marko you totally missed the point of Dissenters comment there..
He’s not finger pointing, he’s saying how the culture of the club is all wrong when your CEO can show his panties for more than 3 months to another side in Europe with no repercussions.
Says everything about how we run, and is there any wonder players are running their contracts down with nobody there getting serious.
Champagne Charlie
According to one of the Italian outlets, Gazidis first made contact with Milan people after we beat them in March.
Maybe Arsenal were more than happy to let Voldemort go so that was the reason behind them not having problems with the two sides negotiating for months. It makes sense since it is Voldemort himself on the picture with his successors. Makes you think that there are no feelings hurt in the whole situation. I mean as much as I hate the man, he’s supposedly getting a ginarmously higher salary. From 2.5m to 6m. That’s crazy money and one that any other person on the planet would take in an instant. If we are going to miss him – we… Read more »
Alex US professional major league sports is fundamentally different from what holds in England, I’m sure you know this. There’s no way the Manchester city, Chelsea or PSG story happens here. There are cap limits on everything type of spending with very stiff penalties attached to them. The only way a success story happens is with very good management and astute leadership. Spending has a minimal role here, it’s mainly strategic decision making and risk taking. All the clubs have pretty much the same budget and draw from the same restricted pool of talent. You need courage to take chances… Read more »
Dream10
There we go. I mean I’m not so naive to think these things don’t occur, but to have such public knowledge and media discourse of possible outcomes is amateurish stuff from Arsenal.
I would have thought that it was more of a case of players seeing us stagnating and management not being ruthless enough and selling some of the shite we’ve accumulated. I mean the Gazidis stuff has only been the last few months and it’d be a stretch to blame that on Ramsey and Welbeck running down their contracts. One we don’t want and the other one is a mercenary who no one else really wants. The Ozil and Sanchez fuck ups I blame on Wenger and I assume promises made and not kept.
Daniel Levi fired Harry Redknapp for less.
At the time Harry was contemplating competing to mange the England national team.
The owner of the club ought to set the standard of what is expected. [ i know Mr Levi doesn’t own Spuds]. Which is why I was 100% behind the Spanish FA chairman sacking Julen Lopetegui on the eve of the world cup.
Kroenke could have been more decisive two months ago and easily installed the duo of Raul Sanllehi, & Vinai Venkatesham.
Instead, passive and apathetic oversight is what Kroenke brings to the table with Arsenal.
Also this notion of sacking him because he was lining up another job is ridiculous it happens in that world and had we done it it’d cost us money to compensate him. I mean even Pep had the City job lined up while still at Bayern it happens
Marko
You don’t think having your head turned takes a toll on the day to day management?
When you’re browsing international schools for your kids in Milan, deciding where to gets you hair scalped and what boutiques to move your silk-suits shopping to.
Allowing Ramsey to reach this stage without signing an extension is not on Wenger.
People need to chill with the Gazidis stuff honestly it isn’t that big of a deal. He was so decisive and important that we’re not going to replace him we’re just going to shuffle around the deck
Bamford
You sure like to make life difficult for yourself. Are you this self focussed in real life or is this a persona you put on for the blog?
It’s not Gazidis actuall
It’s a culture of a dearth of decisiveness in the club.
Marko its not that Ivan should’ve been sacked you plum, its that this type of change shouldn’t have been public knowledge and out there for papers to drag out for months.
If Arsenal were run better, if the leadership was stronger then Ivan would’ve thought twice about being so bold in negotiating another position. I don’t care he has, he’s a prick and I’m glad to see his back, I care that it’s all so powder puff at Arsenal. It’s evidenced in all our dealings, we’re a soft touch.
Dissenter
The Kroenkes and the rest of the board loved Gazidis despite the stagnating commercial deals, and terrible contractual situations of many players. He annually ramped up ticket prices, Wenger delivered CL football on the regular with the club not having to spend as much as our competitionLiverpool/Spuds (we were not competing with Utd/City/Chelsea) and clubs value more than doubled.
He did a mediocre job and the Kroenkes made money. They will take that everytime
Dissenter
Points taken.
If kroenke does deserve credit for the LA Rams’ resurgence that’s fair enough, but if you look at his record, it’s taken him an awful long time to do anything that actually deserves any credit.
Before the move the rams were consistently dreadful. Then there are his other teams.
Also, I think he focused on the rams knowing that anything substandard would be rejected in LA which-correct me if I’m wrong–is not a football town.
G star
the pavon link is a good one. Hopefully we stop being the old arsenal where if we are linked with someone there’s a 90% chance we wouldn’t sign said player.
Allowing Ramsey to reach this stage without signing an extension is not on Wenger That’s true but at the same time what does it matter if Gazidis was off house shopping in Milan when we’ve had contract offers on the table and he’s refused them. I honestly don’t think Gazidis will he won’t he has affected the club or at least it shouldn’t have. Since supposed contact was made after we beat them in the Europa League we’ve had Raul and Sven come in we’ve negotiated deals with visit rwanda and a huge kit deal with Adidas for next summer.… Read more »
Kroenke of course deserves praise for the Rams reinvention, but to somehow make the connection that he knows what he’s doing, or is a great owner, from that alone is daft. (Not aimed at you Dissenter) It’s the equivalent of waxing lyrical about him replacing Wenger despite the decade of nothing that preceded it. He’s poor, we’re poor for being under his leadership, and that’s the simple reality until such time as we are no longer poor under his leadership. It’s very simple how it goes, and 10 years on the scales are overwhelmingly against Kroenke as a good owner… Read more »
Alexanderhenry September 19, 2018 14:26:34 “Bamford ‘One, do you still believe that Wenger would have spent more money but for Stan Kroenke tellbig him he couldn’t.’ Yes, do you still believe we stockpiled all that cash because wenger chose not to spend money available to him on principle?” — So that makes Wenger, at best, an unashamed liar. He has always stated openly that there’s money to spend on ‘players who can improve us’. And then there’s the famous “I’d give it back” quote to Fiszman about what he would do with £100m to spend on players. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/5645752/wenger-has-money-to-spend Therefore only… Read more »
Let’s be sensible: our one hope is Emery. Take him away, and what have you got? Nothing. The BoD rates zero, not a single Arsenal share between them, no know-how about the game, arrogant and indifferent to fans. Kroenke yes-men, no help whatsoever. The CEO is gone. Not someone you’d put your trust in, a guy with a backlog of broken promises. of rose-tinted pictures of a glorious future – BUT a guy who seemed to show a little concern when Wenger was on the way out. Rightly or wrongly, some of us thought he might be on the right… Read more »
Before the move the rams were consistently dreadful. Then there are his other teams.
I mean they won the Superbowl with Kurt Warner in 2000. They were gradually getting better the last few years before McVeigh took over. Like I said before there’s a certain amount of luck attributed to the success of a team and how lucky you get with QB. I mean for years they had Peyton Manning and the colts dominating their division and now they have Jared Goff and look set to dominate it for the next few years barring any unforeseen injuries to him
CC
I really think Arsenal is just a solid Asset for Kroenke, and nothing more. He leaves everything to the UK people. He respects Arsenal values and traditions more that he ought to.
The Rams is his sporting project, that’s the one he really wants to get right.
He’s taken a lot of risks with this LA project and put himself in the cross hairs. I just wish he had taken 10% of the risks he’s taken to move the rams to LA…for Arsenal.
Jaimie
Yes, wenger lied. I never said he didn’t. He is complicit therefore.
I’m glad we didn’t get Tuchel.
I’ve always wondered why he’s generated so much adulation.
He needlessly dissed Arsenal in public last summer. The count down for his dismissal has started,
Word of the day ‘Hubristic’
Is Gazidis still @ post?
He should be gone.
Pavon doesn’t excite me.
Most South Americans fail to adapt in the PL, if it’s their first destination in Europe. He might be a gamble worth taking though.
Richarlison though.
New post.
Dissenter
I concur 100%. We’re easy money for anyone with that kind of clout, massive projected upturn when he got his claws in and he’s been totally hands off since.
Couldn’t name the starting XI I’d be willing to bet. Said it from day one, we’re a portfolio piece and a total 2nd class investment.
“I’ve always wondered why he’s generated so much adulation.”
Tuchel looks like Nosferatu.
After wenger he would have been perfect.
One, asking someone questions is not “harassment”. Saying that it is a dishonest distortion. “Harassment” involves insults, name-calling; see Champagne’s posts for examples. Two, “naievete” is a French word, thus English takes its spelling cues on this word from the French, not from a couple of guys on each Grove. Now, you may be right that British English spells this word with a “y” — I’ll look into this — but I read a lot of British writers and I don’t remember this. Three, why doesn’t someone answer the questions I’ve posed. I’ll tell: because you can’t — at least… Read more »
” Alexanderhenry September 19, 2018 14:26:34 Bamford ‘One, do you still believe that Wenger would have spent more money but for Stan Kroenke tellbig him he couldn’t.’ Yes, do you still believe we stockpiled all that cash because wenger chose not to spend money available to him on principle? ‘Two, are you still of the view that we cannot compete with the top clubs if we continue to spend only what our operating revenues allow us to, i.e., if we continue to adhere to the self-sustaining model?’ Absolutely. Do you seriously think we can? ‘Three, the LA Rams are looking… Read more »
‘Four, please explain how Stan Kroenke currently holds Arsenal back — aside from the fact that he is unlikely to dip into his own pockets.’
Lol, you answered a question you asked. And you are still expecting another answer?