Arsenal Frankenstein squad hindering Emery

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Firstly, what an absolute pain in the arse watching an away game in London is these days. I went to three pubs trying to find the game and it was a f*cking struggle. I eventually found one in deepest darkest, but what an ordeal. I can’t believe with the pub trade struggling up and down the country, SKY or the ruling bodies can’t weigh in to give landlords a bone and some extra business. Craziness. It’s so greedy. When I’m in America, I can watch whatever game I want, whenever I want. UK customers should be afforded the same privilege considering how much they pay all 32 of the companies you have to subscribe to these days to find the game you want.

Anyway, onto the game.

Emery is slipping into a familiar pattern. He picks the wrong starting 11, makes some bold decisions at halftime, then we go onto make the game look a little easier.

The big mistake yesterday for Emery was once again not realising that the team ticks a lot better when Torreira plays. The base of midfield contained Xhaka and Guendouzi and it just didn’t work. Add into the mix a keeper who really isn’t ever going to adapt to being a sweeper, Aaron Ramsey clunking away like peak Alex Song in a #10 role, and Mesut Ozil mostly silenced in the right of midfield (right-central-central midfield)… and you have a mess of a side.

The first half was a painful watch. The team couldn’t string a move together, Petr Cech managed to pass behind himself again, and we were letting a very poor Newcastle make a nuisance of themselves.

I think the really difficult part about watching Emeryball is the lack of pace in the play. We’re insistent on slowing the speed of the game down, we look to draw teams out, then I guess the plan is to move the ball up the pitch and make chances. It’s not really working for a number of reasons, the main one being we don’t’ seem to have the staff on hand to make it out the back.

The whole defence is at pains to move the ball forward, they look incredibly uncomfortable under pressure. There’s so little agression in the way we move forward, the opposition has time to reset and close off the angles. Things seem to get even worse when the ball does make it into midfield. The players really struggle to transition the ball into attack, no one seems to know what they’re doing and play just goes around in circles as we recycle the ball back through defence, quite often all the way back to the keeper. Another problem we have is the length of pass we play, we play lots of dangerous balls through midfield that are cut out or put the receiving player under pressure. The aggressive movement I’d hoped for isn’t really there yet, players often look lost as to where to move the ball to next.

The second half saw the introduction of Torriera, and once again the side came to life. Newcaslte lost a lot of their first half dicipline and Arsenal found their grip on the game. We created more chances and moved the ball a lot faster. Our opener was a little bit special, Xhaka stepped up to a 30 yard freekick and placed it high and to the right of the Newcastle keeper. A real dream striker for the under fire Swiss.

We struggled to make much count after that, though we never really looked under any pressure, you get the impression Newcastle know they’re shit. There was very little belief in their play considering they were only one goal down.

Mesut Ozil stepped up to put us two goals ahead when he made simple work of a Torriera rebound. Granit Xhaka the key man in a move when Monreal found his run in behind.

We still had time to give up our clean sheet. A long ball over the top missed by Mikhi, the offside ignored by the lino, a looping ball to the back post, Bellerin no where to be seen. A silly goal and a real shame.

I think the only way to look at the game, despite my annoyance at the time, is that we’re racking up points. Emery needs to win hearts and minds and the best way to do that is to sit on the same points as Spurs at this stage of the season and win three games on the bounce. That game was only our third away win of 2018, which is a stunning stat in how miserable it is, but you have to take it.

Staying on the positives, we’re working with a manager who can admit mistakes, he once again pulled Guendouzi off at half time so we could take control of a midfield that was all over the place. Torreira freed up Xhaka and he also brought everyone into the game. He’s mobile, quick witted and he speeds up the play in a team that can really lack urgency at times.

There are still quite a lot of issues at hand and there’s a lot that needs to get fixed. Cardiff, West Ham and Newcastle really aren’t the sort of games you can write things like ‘X player proved the doubters wrong.’ That Newcastle team is shite, it’s underinvested in, and it’ll likely get relegated this season. We shouldn’t be that close, and we shouldn’t be having halves of football as poor as that.

Emery is struggling with the same issue Arsene did. He has all these wonderful jigsaw pieces, but they simply don’t work if they’re all in the same box. He’s putting square pegs in round holes, and the output is clunky. Auba is not a very good winger. Lacazette through the middle is limited. Aaron Ramsey has been attrocious this season when he’s been given a specific role (shocker). Mesut Ozil really struggles to take hold of a game from the right of midfield.

There’s simply too much going on. We seem to be over complicating every single decision. When you change too many things at one time, things come to a grind.

Emery needs to work out what the most important items in his transformation are, then build around the vision of what he’s trying to do.

If your philosophy is focused around creating space and making the pitch bigger, and a core component of making that work is to have a keeper that can play with the ball at his feet, you need to play the best keeper at that job. Petr Cech has been excellent with his hands, but if the first 20 minutes of every game is the defence with their hearts in their mouths, you have to change something.

In midfield, we keep on persisting with a Guendouzi and Xhaka. It doesn’t work. There’s not enough urgency in the two of them and they get overrun easily. Make it easy on yourself, start with the best man for the job. Start with Lucas Torreira. Fitness can’t be an issue. We can’t keep trying something that clearly doesn’t work.

Moving onto the forward players is a little more difficult. The system needed a Malcolm like being this summer. Auba isn’t the guy to play out wide, and the challenge is he’s also not built for a system that doesn’t play incisive counter attacking football. We really need a striker with the hold up skills of Lacazette, but with the height, physique and power of Lukaku. I mean, let’s be honest, a Giroud with pace would be ideal right now, but that name doesn’t exist.

If you don’t have any wingers, and you don’t have strikers that can do it alone, do you opt for two strikers? Lacazette seems more than capable of doing the grunt work of dropping into midfield when needed.

The players baked around them make life even tougher. Aaron Ramsey isn’t skillful enough to be a pure #10. Mesut doesn’t want to do the dogs body work there. Mesut is limited out wide right, and he stunts Bellerin’s freedom moving forward because he spends the whole game creeping inside to get some of that central action.

What a shambles, right?

I really hope Sven has been working hard to address the issues. We’re still in an Arsene Wenger squad hangover. But it’s apparent there needs to be some brutal decisions this January because we’re not equipped to compete with the players we have moving forward. However, we could make life a lot easier by simply making the easy decisions in every game, versus having a flap at half time to make things right.

OK, that’s me done, see you in the comments.

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Joe

Arteta would have done fuck all. Just like he did for the 5 or whatever years he played for us No other team were in for arteta. That tells you everything you need to know. Just like no one was in for Ramsey in the last year of his contract. Why did Everton pay a buy out / fine whatever to get Silva when they could have had a old boy arteta who is the greatest thing to managers because pep said so for free?? Or the rangers, getting untested Gerard instead? Fuck off with the arteta bullsht. No one… Read more »

Michael24

VicVic

Are you for real?

FYI, never hated Wenger.

Just came to loathe him.

By the way, he didn’t step aside.

He was pushed

PS: Some of your posts are rather immature.

Guns of Hackney

Up for grabs

Arteta would have smashed it out the park.

“When weak, appear strong. When strong, appear weak”. The Arteta of War

Gons

See above.

GunnerDNA

It doesn’t matter what formation, tactics or starting 11 fans want to talk about, the bottom line is UE was left with an unbalanced squad that is not good enough. To look at what Sarri is doing at CFC and comparing him to UE is ludicrous when you compare the two squads before both managers were hired. Sarri had the luxury to get a player in midfield that knows his system while UE was tasked to turn Ramsey into a discipline CM when the said player should be on the bench. I agree that LT should be starting but until… Read more »

Marko

You do realize that we have a better points total after 5 games this season as we did last? Also Wenger’s teams were notoriously slow starters in games too. It’s almost like it’s practically the same team after 5 games. Only thing is with Emery you know things will change

Bamford10

Joe Well, one thing I expected is that we would be a better team under Emery than Wenger. We haven’t been. Was that too much to expect? I also expected him to make intelligent decisions re the starting XI and the best formation given our personnel. He hasn’t done these things either. Was this too much to expect? As for Sarri, the key thing there is that Chelsea are already playing as he wants them to. You can already see the imprint he has made. Does anyone see the imprint Emery has made? No. There is none. As for Klopp,… Read more »

Joe

Ha you knew akb wankers would never give the new manager a chance and would never support him but this Vic vic cunt is taking the piss

China

The arteta of war

I loled. Good bants haha

Arteta oversaw some of the most disappointing years of our PL history as a player. Our least valuable established captain ever up until the point when we stopped caring about captains

If the guy is a managerial genius he should go out and prove it

Guns of Hackney

Joe

To criticise Wengemery isn’t a tick in the Wenger column. You do realise that it doesn’t have to be one or the other, right?

Joe

Well, one thing I expected is that we would be a better team under Emery than Wenger. We haven’t been

It’s been 5 fucking matches.

Not one of Chelsea players had wenger as a manager for the last however many years. Bar giroud that is.

They all have winning mentalities. Not a loser wenger mentality.

They’ve won 2 of 4 last leagues. Aren’t average players like Ramsey mkhit wellbeck.

Emery has been left a broken average squad.

Joe

Guns

Yes. But give him more than 5 games

And you’re the one calling him wengemery

Guns of Hackney

China

Please don’t compare playing careers to managerial success. Come on, you’re better than that.

Anyway, there were more candidates than the wonderful, Arteta.

Apparently Wengemery was THE BEST candidate? That’s the real issue. Was there actually no one better?

Sheesh.

Guns of Hackney

Joe

He has ten games. Then I go into meltdown.

Up 4 grabs now

Guns you are mad but you make me laugh mate. The arteta of war! Piss my self laughing!

Vic Vic

Bamford10, It’s pleasant to have someone on board who wants to discuss with a clear head. You know, some guys here would grab a gun and shoot sporadically at any instance of a suggestion that takes away their rights to hate Wenger for ever. Now, dear Sir, can you correct me on these points, being the points I raised before the dogs jumped out of their cage, barking with such speed and focus that I wondered if they had been fed today. Here are my humble points: *Emery wanted to play from the back and a keeper who could do… Read more »

Marko

Apparently Wengemery was THE BEST candidate? That’s the real issue. Was there actually no one better?

If the candidates were Emery, Arteta and a token interview with Vieira then yes Emery was the best candidate. Just because you and Pedro like Arteta’s hair and think he has nice lips doesn’t really mean too much

Joe

Guns

This is a transition year to implement his style , weed out players like Ramsey mkhit etc. Make some transfer moves in Jan and summer.

Guns of Hackney

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See! Even Arteta’s name leads itself to some amazing headlines.

Arteta paints football brush strokes.

Can’t do anything with Emery.

Fail.

TR7

If all of you are saying we should not cast any aspersions on the ability of Emery as a manager until he has his own squad, then that leaves very little space for any discussion. Still waiting for one positive change you think he has brought to our team. I can’t think of one.

Up 4 grabs now

Guns you know the bindippers are our 11th game. What happens if we win the games before that and we have won 8 out of ten games with 24 points, then lose to the bindippers.

China

I’d be more than happy to compare arteta on his managerial career if he had one.

Joe

Can someone explain why Chambers should have been sent out on loan by Emery? *What smart coach will prefer to play Ramsey in 10 instead of Mikki if Ozil is not working out? Iwobi in 10 would play much better than Ramsey in 10. Haha fucking chambers was going to be our saviour??? because mkhit and Iwobi are just as shit as Ramsey. Fuck me. Guys were calling for Iwobis head on here last year because he was so shit but now he should be our #10 because you want to prove Emery wrong Mkhit is no better than Ramsey.… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Marko

You forgot the tan.

Jardim
Sarri
Ancelotti
Tuchel
Simone
Bagelsmann
Schmid

There were lots available…and somehow Arsenal plumped for Lenny Emery.

That’s not right.

Joe

Tr7

2 away wins already. 100% improvement over wengers 2018 away record.

Boom.

Vic Vic

Michael 24,

Of course, you are welcome find my posts immature. I actually find yours stupid.

Here is a place where you discuss and debate.
So if you think we should all have the same opinion on issues, then you are not just immature. You are plain stupid.

Up 4 grabs now

Tr7
Wenger not in charge that’s improvement enough mate.

Guns of Hackney

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I said yesterday that results are results and Wengemery seems to be sniffing them out…however.

Even the weng man could eek out some decent results and then lose tragically to the good teams.

I just want to see something exciting. At the moment, it hasn’t happened. But ten games or eleven…then I will literally implode.

Marko

Vic vic to answer some of your points. Under Wenger we had the same back 5 and were just as bad if not worse. He also played Ramsey number 10 and in CM where he’s worse this I think Emery knows hence playing him number 10. Basically all these fuck ups that Emery is doing Wenger done all the time without changing at least with Emery there’s a chance to change

China

Interesting fact, arteta has managed as many professional football matches as I have As for other candidates, I don’t know who the best candidate would’ve been to fix our mess. I’m willing to admit that. Was emery the right choice? Maybe. But emery is a manager who has won several trophies, including on the european stage with not very big teams. He is known for attention to detail, strategy and a modern play style. Whether or not this happens successfully now remains to be seen. What matters is that at the time he was appointed, he was on paper a… Read more »

Vic Vic

* to find.

Joe

TR7

He didn’t lose 6-0 to Chelsea?

Vic Vic

* to find

Guns of Hackney

China

Are you not pissed that you weren’t considered?

I’d rather some of the insane bastards that post on here than Wengemery’s dreck.

The key word is: excitement.

Victorious

Marko
Only thing is with Emery you know things will change’

And how do you know this?
what indications so far can you point to that can back this claim?

Up 4 grabs now

He didn’t lose 6-0 to Chelsea? This

Bamford10

VicVic

I pretty much agree with you there. Emery has done a number of things at this point that can only prompt one to scratch one’s head.

I do think he’s a good manager, though; I just think he’s a little confused at the moment about what needs to be done to get us moving in the right direction.

Guns of Hackney

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That’s like saying “he didn’t get knocked out in the first round…he went all the way to round two”

A loss at 10-0 is still 3 points.

Victorious

Marko
Only thing is with Emery you know things will change”

And how do you know this?

What indications can you point to buttress this claim of yours?

China

Guns let’s imagine a scenario ‘Exciting arteta’ comes in and changes things radically. He bombs and we tank. For how long would this excitement of his appointment remain do you think? You said if we lost the first 5 that would be ok because it would be exciting. So after losing 5 games you’d be really positive and excited about the 6th? How about the 7th? And whilst this may seem like an exaggerated set of circumstances the reality is that it’s a genuine possibility because arteta would’ve inherited a shit show and have zero experience to rely on when… Read more »

Up 4 grabs now

Guns, will take boring and points first
before excitement every time.
I grew up on George Graham and boring but winning football, or mourino football as it’s called now.

Joe

Chambers , the new Tony Adams, according to vic vic is part of a defence that has allowed 12 goals in 5 matches.

Bring him back!

Marko

Still waiting for one positive change you think he has brought to our team. I can’t think of one. The attack is better still a work in progress but you can tell there’s actually instructions to attack with width as opposed to tippy tappy always in front of the opposition. Now before ding a ling number one comes on and talks about how many goals we scored last season relax we’re 5 games in and likely to score as many if not more. I’d also argue that the midfield is slightly better but still needs significant improvement. Couldn’t get any… Read more »

Joe

Guns

Tell me about artetas managerial philosophy that has you so excited about him

HighburyLegend

Vicuntious is only here to defends his old master’s memory lol

China

And in artetas case his playing career matters because he needs to get the buy in of the players to what he’s saying Let’s put it this way. If the new manager is very young and only has experience as an assistant, are you more likely to buy in to a guy like arteta or Henry/bergkamp/Vieira? Guys who won it all. Became legends. We’re elite for an entire generation. Who played for some of the biggest clubs in the world. World Cup winners in the French case. CL winners. Bergkamp and Henry were visionaries with a ball at their feet… Read more »

Victorious

Joe
Emery has been left a broken average squad.”

Except you didn’t make it about the players under Wenger but directed all your venom towards him but now it’s all the players fault all To exempt UE of any criticism

you really are a special breed of a double faced hypocritical weasel

China

*if* we started badly under arteta what can he say to keep the squad on the same page? ‘Trust me guys. I believe I know what I’m talking about. It makes perfect sense in my head you just have to believe’ Literally any manager with trophies and success under their belts can at least point to that for reference with the team. If emery told me to adjust my play style because he thinks I’m similar to X player from his Sevilla days who did great by doing XYZ slightly differently I might buy in. If a totally random unknown… Read more »

Joe

Wengers players that he broke and destroyed you muppet

Can guarantee Ramsey would have been twice the player under Ferguson

Marko

And how do you know this? what indications so far can you point to that can back this claim? Well for one thing what he’s asking of the team will see an improvement in the team eventually. High pressing build out from the back and attacking with width is vastly different to Wenger’s sit back deep and hope for the best approach to defending and express yourself and hope for the best approach to attacking. Put it this way with Wenger we probably wouldn’t have addressed the Goalkeeper and DM position whereas with Emery we have. Doesn’t seem that way… Read more »

Rambo Ramsey

“Still waiting for one positive change you think he has brought to our team. I can’t think of one.”

Nonsense.

Attacking patterns are starting to take shape, they are a lot more clear than Wenger’s late-years sideways passing rubbish. We now use width in a much more effective manner, how many goals have we scored from cutbacks?

Passing in the final third is a lot more inventive and quicker.

Bellerin had hit stagnation under Wenger, he’s improving every game now atleast in the attacking department.

Victorious

I mean it doesn’t have to be about one or the other, Wenger is history and people are only but asking questions of Emery’s decisions or (lack of?) in bringing the out the best in the squad he currently has, but no let’s make it something else and call every critical view on Emery an agenda driven or akb wankers.

what a deluded bunch.

London gunner

Jardim Sarri Ancelotti Tuchel Simone Bagelsmann Schmid To be honest considering that list emery was one of the strongest Candidates available. Schmid Bagelsmann are kind of unknown quanities and a bit meh. Tuchel hasn’t really done anything of note can’t be considered a top manager and was arguably a worse coach than Klopp at Dortmund. Ancelotti is quality but at this age and the fact he is a super star club level manager used to bigger budgets could he work at Arsenal? Simone is obviously one of my fav managers but he would need a complete squad overhaul to work… Read more »

Joe

Wenger bought. Trained. Motivated. Prepared

And in the end destroyed them.

So yes it’s wengers fault you akb muppet

To bad wenger didn’t leave Emery what GG and Rioch left wenger.

Of course you didn’t even who Arsenal was back then so you have no clue about that time of Arsenal’s history.

Back into your hole Victorious

London gunner

Also Arteta as Arsenal manager just lol

Dissenter

Wilshere is broken again.

Joe

Rambo.

Don’t make posts like that.

I’ll upset all the akbs on here who are praying for Emery to fail

Marko

Except you didn’t make it about the players under Wenger but directed all your venom towards him but now it’s all the players fault all To exempt UE of any criticism I can’t tell if you’re purposefully stupid sometimes. Either you’re wilfully ignorant or blind I don’t know but plenty of players have been criticized these last few years. It was never just about Wenger not being good enough but also quite a few players. The thing is though with Wenger these players would still be here and he would have brought in more dross to the squad whereas with… Read more »

Vic Vic

Marko, ‘Vic vic to answer some of your points. Under Wenger we had the same back 5 and were just as bad if not worse. He also played Ramsey number 10 and in CM where he’s worse this I think Emery knows hence playing him number 10.’ Exactly my point, things are same as when Wenger was manager. Even Wenger played a bit better in his most terrible games than the pathetic show we saw yesterday in the first half. You remember those guys who called out Wenger as far back as 07/08? They were insulted by people and e-dogs… Read more »

Joe

Maybe he is getting the best out of average players like Ramsey , mkhit, etc.

We’ve won 3 in a row including 2 in a row.

Should have beaten Chelsea. At least a draw.

Said he’s getting something out of the players than you think.

Not easy to do when trying to wash away wengers influence.

Victorious

Look at the players at his disposal and tell. me with a straight face he’s exhausting all possible options to bring out the best from them

Why not try 3-5-2

Auba is no winger and you can tell the frustration is creeping in already I his performance been ask to deliver from the wide position
Looks super pissed to come off yesterday and it won’t surprise anyone to see him flinging out the toys in no distant time.

Joe

Emery’s doing such a shit job yet he’s only 4 points off of arteta’s city and have already lost to them

That can’t be right???

gonsterous

just the use of substitutions alone makes emery a better manager than Wenger. Im sure we all miss wenger sitting on his hands not knowing what to do when we were 0-0 in the second half. 70th min subs were more a formality than anything tactical

China

People who wanted arteta were living in an absolute dreamland alternate reality where huge decisions for the future of this club at the most pressing juncture in our last 2 decades are literally built on nothing more than hope

Who needs some kind of evidence of ability or record? Who needs any kind of foundation underpinning why the decision makes sense. Be like Nike. ‘Just do it!’ It’s bold and exciting. Who cares how realistically it could backfire?

Joe

Vic

So while trying to implement his own style on the team , Emery should implement a system that he’s not used to or doesn’t use?

Makes a lot of sense.

I’m sure you asked wenger to switch systems a lot over the 4 years you’ve supported arsenal.

Joe

Why not let Emery try to implement his system over more than 5 matches before you tell him what he should do.

Marko

I can only assume that we don’t play 3 at the back because we don’t have enough CB’s for it. You can potentially rotate a back 4 or if someone gets injured you’ve got a fresh player coming in. If we played 3 at the back any sort of injury or suspension has us going back to a back 4 because we’ve only got 4 CB’s

Marko

Richarlison is suspended for next weeks game I believe

Joe

Marko

Maybe if we had kept chambers we could have played a 3-5-2.

Emery out!

Marko

To be fair Joe loaning out chambers was a bit dumb. We should have either sold him outright or brought in a replacement when we loaned him

Vic Vic

‘Tr7
Wenger not in charge that’s improvement enough
mate.’

See what I’m saying, these guys want us to believe that Wenger not being in charge any longer should be our focus for the next years.

Why are these guys so obsessed with the past?
We have a coach who should hit the ground running and the fucker is not even crawling and you are making everything about Wenger!

Victorious

The thing is though with Wenger these players would still be here and he would have brought in more dross to the squad whereas with Emery and co you can rest assured that the squad will get better” Still flinging about ‘assurances’ on a better future performance when’s the opposite has actually been the case thus far, I mean you keep running in circles and cant seem to point on any tangible improvement so far Sounds like classic marko trotting stuffs from the arse in hope of suiting a bogus narrative There’s nothing on show so far to ignite any… Read more »

Joe

Marko

What has chambers done to warrant it a dumb decision. He’s neither here nor there.

He’s not our new saviour at CB. Would
He have started before Sok?

He would not have been playing for us as is evident by him being loaned out.

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Should have kept chambers and loaned holding.
We can play 3 at the back with the litch alongside mustafi and nick the Greek.
Or Monreal. Once we have someone that can play leftwing back.
If chambers had stayed we could have played him rf the young Greek kid as well.

TR7

Cutbacks? Really clutching at straws there

Joe

Hit the ground running?

3 wins on the trot. Two away.

Only losses to
City which even arteta would have lost

And to Chelsea which should
Have been a draw at least and possibly a win for us if the bang average Iwobi and mkhit could hit the target.

That’s seems like a pretty good start to me

Marko

We have a coach who should hit the ground running and the fucker is not even crawling and you are making everything about Wenger!

Why should he hit the ground running? Wenger never did and it’s the practically the same squad. It’s a Wenger starting 11 bar Guendouzi and Sokratis. Still an improvement though

Joe

Has Emery ever played a 3-5-2 in his career?

Victorious

The hatred for the an won’t allow a select few admit it.. but we looked distinctly better when Wenger switched To 3-4-3 last season..The defense had a string of clean sheets and Auba found his grove

At least Emery should be flexible and try things not just get rooted to one formation and come across as a dinosaur

Joe

Distinctly better

Haha we finished 40 points back

When were we better??

Joe

At least Emery should be flexible and try things not just get rooted to one formation and come across as a dinosaur

It’s been 5 matches you fucking muppet

How many different formations should he have tried in his first 5 matches at a new club with new players while trying to implement his system and wash away the stench of a specialist in failure

Marko

I mean you keep running in circles and cant seem to point on any tangible improvement so far

Are you stupid? It’s okay if you are. I told you the attack is marginally better the results are better than this time last season and this time last season we had Xhaka and Ramsey in a midfield two that never worked and had Elneny and an injured Wilshere as back up this season it’s Xhaka and Guendouzi with Torreira as back up. Improvements still to be made but make no mistake an upgrade on what we had under you know who

Joe

Victorious

If that’s all it took. Why didn’t wenger do
It and hit the ground running the last dozen years and make us challenge the league or CL

If it’s just that easy????

Dissenter

Emery doesn’t look like he’s improving the team and there’s no discernible pattern of play.
Joe is ultra-protective and just want’s to give Emery enough time to succeed or fail.

Emery is making the same mistakes over and over again. Pierre and Victorious aren’t saying anything new but it sure sounds hypocritical coming from them since they defend Wenger every step of the way as he gradually destroyed the club.

Up 4 grabs now

Viv vic,
It’s not about the past its about now.
Wenger going is an improvement.
Emery can’t hit the ground running it’s not like sarri or Conte or pep walking into a championship winning side. Klopp is in his 4th year still won nothing poch 4th year nuddah. Emery has 10 years of crap to unravel with a piss poor squad. Emery needs time. Whoever was in charge needs time.

Dissenter

***they defended Wenger

raptora

Victorious, apparently you think that 1 away win in the last round in a game with zero meaning, and 7 losses, are a proof of us playing “distinctly better”. Fk me. You cannot make this shit up. “String of clean sheets”?!?! We lost fkin 7 out of 8 away games. Are you kidding me?!

James wood

That was well high on Walcott nearly took off his NIPPLE
on his new haircut.

Marko

but we looked distinctly better when Wenger switched To 3-4-3 last season..The defense had a string of clean sheets and Auba found his grove First off it was never a 3-4-3 it was 5 at the back and secondly it worked once in the FA Cup final but once the season started we were still conceding goals all over and still struggling defensively and he scrapped it fairly quickly and reverted back to a back 4. Aubameyang I’m pretty sure never played with a back 5. At least Emery should be flexible and try things not just get rooted to… Read more »

Joe

Dissenter

I would have given any new managers more than 5 matches before I make judgment.

I’m not protective of Emery. I’m giving the guy longer than Victorious’ Support of arsenal before I judge him

grooveydaddy

West Ham 2 nil up @ Everton

Maybe Pellegrini ‘just needed more time’ also… 🙂

Joe

Hmmmm the crap west ham we beat are up 2 nil away to Everton

Hmmmmmm. Thought they are absolute shite
Weird.

TR7

Rambo

Agree to disagree mate. I don’t think our attack is more incisive now. I mean our attacking players Ozil, Ramsey, Auba have largely been abysmal.

There’s one positive though and perhaps the only one -he wants our keeper to play out from the back something which I am a strong votary of but again not sure if Cech is that GK who can do it.

Dissenter

Joe You had me nodding in agreement when you wrote that “too bad Wenger didn’t leave Emery what GG and Rioch left Wenger.” Wenger left a bloated of number 10s, poor central defenders, no wingers and atrocious midfield options.nHe didn’t even leave a good goal keeper like Seaman. He pissed off the money we should have used to rebuild by letting players run their contracts. Wenger didn’t pass on the spine of a team, just a bunch of overpaid and chronically under-coached players. Emery is having to start from the scratch, Bellerin and Laca has said as much publicly. One… Read more »

Marc

Whilst I’d like to see Emery drop Xhaka for Torreira you cannot judge him on 5 matches.

If you really want to I’d just point out that in the comparable fixtures last season (swapping Cardiff for Swansea – one relegated and one promoted) then Emery has picked up 5 more points.

Joe

Dissenter.

Spot on.

Even Pep changed a huge amount of players in 3 windows of what was already a strong team.

Emery got left a rag tag bunch of square pegs bang average over priced players who had never were managed properly in aspect of the game

Hit the ground running? Emery started the race 1000m behind everyone else.

He’s done well with what he was given

Champagne charlie

“I believe Charlie’s latest highly intelligent and thought provoking post to me was: Mutant Bastard. Very good Charlie! You might want to increase your vocabulary when you finally get to being a full time team leader. Just saying.“

I called the ref that technically, just fancied you share a resemblance.

What’s the ‘full time leader’ garb? You’ve not a scooby what I do mate, I’m not you sharing anecdotes of my life in Asia where I finally feel tall. That’s your very obvious problem, your only quip comes professionally because you think you’re Elon Musk.

G

Why we still going on about..the guy was an obvious legend in Arsenal s history…but he is history so think we should get on with supporting Emery

Vic Vic

Highest order of hypocrisy is when you say Wenger didn’t play well and you say Emery has been playing well. Yes, Wenger was not playing well in his last years and Wenger was sacked for exactly that. This is not about saying it’s not right to have eased Wenger out, it was right. But to now say we have a better coach in Emery so far is totally nonsense, yet this is what some guys are desperate to say here. Guys who just can’t leave Wenger hate behind and see what is before them. And they say, ‘give him more… Read more »

Sanmi

Perez refusing to warm up. Glad we got.rid

gonsterous

on what ground should emery hit the ground running ? has he inherited a PL winning team ? We finished 6th last season, 5th the year before. Emerys only primary job is to stop the rot and then rebuild the team. But 5 games in, everyone is moaning that we aren’t playing smooth barca football. Get off your high horse if you can’t see that arsenal fc aren’t world beaters, haven’t been for a while.
We will still lose games this season. But every one will act like it’s the end of the world.