CEO exit talks are back

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Unai Emery’s press conferences feel like they’re on repeat at the moment.

IVAN

“Every conversation with me is speaking about us. About our performance. About our ideas. Our process. Then, for his future we didn’t speak. I think it’s one question for him”

MESUT

“The first time, maybe, he could feel different but every day with us in the work, I look at him & he looks well & happy, working with our demands every day”

REPEAT

Well, this weekend, the Spaniard has the chance to take his team up to Newcastle after the international break and impose his ideas on a side that had a bit of a shite summer and have had a very bad start to the season. Rafa B is a very good manager making miracles happen up there with very average players. This is exactly the sort of game we’d lose under Wenger, so it’s incredibly important we keep our 100% record (after the first two games) as we look to climb the table and keep in the pack.

The Ivan G news is chugging along, apparently, he’s deep in talks with the Elliot group. It’s now just down to clauses, so it looks like they’ll be hiring him. I mean, at this point, whatever. I hope Arsenal have a good search and select agency working hard to find a name. I really don’t want our club to have a poor January because we’ve lost the person with the keys to the filing cabinet.

Absolute banter that AC Milan is considering Aaron Ramsey, who’d be attracted to their club because of his ties to Ivan. Puuuulease… I mean, at this point, I’m really struggling to care about his plight. His start to the season hasn’t been electric and I still think he’s a little overrated by a fanbase so starved of quality, we actually argue the merits of Xhaka as a top midfielder.

The club will need to find someone to take his place though. It might help us find a bit more balance as well. Just shame we didn’t go hard to move him on in the summer. His price is unlikely to hit Sanchez levels, but we’ll see. My main concern with a January move for anyone is the players switched out of Arsenal mode the month before to protect those hamstrings. We need everyone focused, and it’d be nice if the press conferences weren’t all about where he’s heading.

Right, not a lot on today, more tomorrow, see you in the comments! x

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  1. englandsbest

    All things considered I don’t believe Arsenal or Emery have made a bad start to the season. We lost to City and Chelsea, but not badly, and most of us expected something like that.

    There has been valid criticism of him – I think it’s a mistake to try to teach a GK of Cech calibre new tricks. His patience with Ozil is infuriating – but how can he omit a guy on £350 K/week. With Xhaka too, but then again, the Club paid £35 mill. It’s a given that he must give them a chance. Ramsay, too, is annoying, but he is also a mess left by Wenger.

    I believe we all are aware that Emery inherited a ramshackle squad, and time will be needed. Also money, and plenty of it if we are to return to the elite. On that score I am not optimistic in the slightest.

    We should save our judgement until the end of the Jan window. Not of Emery, but of Kroenke.

  2. englandsbest

    It’s a strategic mistake to centre all criticism on the manager. It was a mistake made with Wenger. If the focus had been on the owner, Kroenke would have fired him ages ago. That is what owners do.

    The reason at the time was that for many fans – for most to begin with – Wenger was a godlike figure, and therefore the case against him needed to be over-stated. That will no longer apply.

    Make no mistake, Kroenke holds the purse strings. If they are not loosened it’s because he does not choose to loosen them.

  3. Joe

    Ramsey has always been over rated. As I’ve alwys said the 6 month purple patch was an abberation. His level is bang average.

    Maybe he can join jack at west ham

  4. Joe

    How would Kroenke feel if his most expensive player at 350 a week was sitting on the bench. Emery’s hands are tied.

    Happens in every sport. Pressure from the top influencing the manager.

  5. Bob N16

    Joe, Kroenke is so hands off, I don’t think he cares one jot about team selections, I’m sure it’s just the bottom line with him.

  6. mysticleaves

    Used to like Ramsey very much. I still do but never as a no10. It’s painful to watch him there. I really thought Emery will work with him as one of the double CMs. How wrong was I..His energy, if harnessed well, will be better felt in the middle of the park.

  7. Guns of SF

    Mystic

    Rambo and Neymar in the same team? Fat chance!
    All we will get from PSG is some loud laughs on the other end of the phone

  8. Alex Cutter

    “How would Kroenke feel if his most expensive player at 350 a week was sitting on the bench. Emery’s hands are tied.”

    How would he know? Who would ever bother telling him?

    He’s got bigger fish to fry. His NFL team is being picked to win the Super Bowl.

  9. tee

    please, stop saying Wenger left a shite team for Emery.

    I don’t believe this notion in whatever way you might want to paint it.

    in this present team, we have Cech, Mustafi, bellerin, Xhaka, Monreal, ramsey, and lacazette(this is his 2nd year) while we have leno (cech’s replacement – still an used sub), abaumayang(1/2 season with Wenger), torrreira(used as a sub), lecheistener(whom I believe can do better than bell), Greek guy and guende(amazing talent) for the first 11.

    no one should expect wonder from Emery but people should stop attacking anyone that cares to highlight his faults.

    I beleive with this crop if players, Emery should be able to gives us performances that will thrill us latest by December.

    if Emery insist on playing from the back then, start leno coupled with starting torrreira, lecheistener, lacazzete and abaumayang. this i believe should be our starting 11 – leno, mustafi, papa, monreal, lechesteiner, torriera, guend, xhaka/ramsey, lacazzete, abaumayang and ozil/mkhi in a 4-1-3-2 formation.

  10. tee

    this crop of players are far from the dross you labelled them. they are not shite but above average which I believe can compete (not for the league but cups and 4th) when they finally get used to Emery’s tactics

  11. HillWood

    So – the owners are a shambles
    The directors are a shambles
    The players wages are a shambles
    The prices to watch the team is ludicrous
    The team is a shambles
    But hey ho I’ve been an Arsenal fan since 1970
    There are about 85 clubs in the English Football League who would bite your arm off to be in our position
    So let’s not get too depressed

  12. Eduardo

    What would be the dirty Sanchez equivalent for a last ditch Ramsey swap? Fabian Delph? Ross Barkley? Jonjo Shelvey? I’m not exactly filled with confidence. The guy either signs or leaves on a free.

  13. Joe

    Hillwood

    The only one depressed are the akbs like
    Pierre etc because their messiah wenger has been sacked and they can’t have him back at The Arsenal

    Most of us are positive on the beginning of the Emery regime and are willing it to give him longer than a cup of tea to sort things out

  14. Alex Cutter

    “When a 350k a week asset is doing nothing and sitting on the bench, trust me Kroenke will know”

    I don’t think you believe this. You’re close enough to the US to know that every time Kroenke sneezes he makes that $17 million.

    Not even a blip on his radar.

  15. Joe

    Does anyone know if Wenger is lined up for a position anywhere? Seems to have gone very quiet of late

    He’s waiting for United , city, Barca, real or Bayern to come calling.

  16. Emiratesstroller

    Pedro

    For me I am not concerned whether Gazidis stays or goes. He has been in the job as CEO for almost 10 years and it took him almost 9 years to assert any real influence on the decision making process.

    Frankly there is no shortage of people running major financial and corporate institutions who would not jump at the chance to run Arsenal for the financial package we are willing to pay.

    The second point you cover is about Ramsey. The problem here is that Arsenal have once again allowed one of our high value players to run down his contract to last six months without contractural resolution. This means that the player and his greedy agent will reap the financial benefits when he leaves
    and the club will be left without a dime on his departure.

    Ramsey may be a very average player but if his contract negotiations had been
    handled properly the decision to renew or whether he stayed or goes should have been taken two years ago when we could have generated at least £40
    million from his sale.

    That is certainly what it will cost Arsenal to replace him with equivalent standard player if he leaves this summer.

  17. Michael24

    tee

    He didn’t leave us shite players but he did leave us “a shite team” structure and
    shite mindsets.

    If Arsenal manage to win at Newcastle tomorrow and we all know it’s going to be a tough game, I would at least feel a sense of optimism that things are on the up.

    Now wouldn’t that be a strange thing?

  18. kristoman

    Ramsey may be a very average player but if his contract negotiations had been
    handled properly the decision to renew or whether he stayed or goes should have been taken two years ago when we could have generated at least £40
    million from his sale.
    That is certainly what it will cost Arsenal to replace him with equivalent standard player if he leaves this summer.

    let me explain, This art of allowing players contract run down is actually caused by the high wages initially given to them. the club knew their wages are high, so on their next contract negotiation, they try as much delay contract talk because they knew that there will always be increment in the new package. but what they fail to realize is that the players are aware of this too.

  19. Michael24

    Kristoman

    You are correct, which beggars the simple question –

    When the decision was made to adhere to such a ludicrous policy, why didn’t someone with a miniscule of brain matter point this out?

  20. DivineSherlock

    The way I see it is that Emery is giving everyone a chance to adopt his philosophy . Once he sees who buys into it , who fits perfectly who doesn’t . He’ll adjust it in the January window.. Then again after the season ends. I don’t expect to see any real progress this season. Next season is where I’ll be having expectations atleast .

  21. Pierre

    Tony
    thanks for the link but Don’t you know that a player that creates chances is pointless…

    I know that because I have been told that many times on le grove after pointing out that ozil had created the most chances in Europe in the first half of last season and was told that the chances created stat means nothing .

    Maybe that opinion has changed now that ozil is creating next to nothing under the new manager.

  22. Danny S

    Pierre

    It is a pretty pointless stat, but it is magnified tenfold when it is the sole point to someone’s game.
    All these players on the list offer so much more than just chances created. A mixture of hard workers, dribblers and general all round class.

    When the chances created stat is the only thing a player can offer, it becomes pretty worthless.

  23. gonsterous

    Pierre

    Maybe that opinion has changed now that ozil is creating next to nothing under the new manager.

    This has nothing to do with the new manager. But anything to take the blame off wenger, isn’t it ? If you look at the assists of ozil over the last 5 years you will see that it’s getting lower and lower which just concludes that he has been getting worse and should therefore be replaced with an upgrade.
    I blame the 300k per week. that went straight to his head and now he is just coasting around waiting for the end of the week.

  24. Danny S

    Gonsterous

    I think Sanchez has proved why he didn’t work at Barca, he doesn’t fit a tactical set up. He is just pure dynamo which is ok if he needs to carry a team but not so good if you want him to play a role.
    My biggest regret is not ripping cities hand off for the 60m.

  25. Pierre

    Danny s
    Ozil must be a genius to be able to create the most chances in Europe without,as you say, hard work,dribbling ability and a lack of general all round class………amazing.

    I actually think the chance created stat tells you a lot about how a player is operating in the team and his value …
    Ozil has created next to nothing this season which,in my opinion ,shows how he is struggling with the role he is being asked to play.

    Maybe he is not getting the ball in the areas to create ,

  26. Pierre

    Gonsterous
    So what do you think of the created the most chances in Europe stat last season up until his injury/illness or whatever.

    He can only create chances for his team mates can’t he …..not really his fault if they fail to put the ball in the net is it.

  27. Pierre

    Gonsterous
    “This has nothing to do with the new manager. But anything to take the blame off wenger, isn’t it”

    Surely it is the managers job to recognise where a player will operate best in the team .so if a player is struggling with a role he is being asked to play then the .manager should take some responsibility as well as the player.

  28. Alexanderhenry

    Alex cutter

    You’re probably right regarding kroenke.
    To him, Arsenal is the equivalent of a charming and curious antique. He doesn’t know that much about it and let’s others run it.

    However, when it comes to the bottom line, he is fully aware of what’s happening and fully in control.
    Arsenal must make money for him, even a relatively small amount.
    That’s all he’s concerned about.

  29. Danny S

    Pierre

    I judge with my eyes and not with stats and what I read.
    Ozil will occasionally put in a shift, but his over all mentality is soft and feckless.
    You never see him get angry or determined and chase a ball, he just drifts and relies on being picked out.
    His mentality does not match his ability and that is what sets him well below many other number 10’s and other creative players.

  30. gonsterous

    Pierre

    what is with you and the chances created line ? We don’t win a game with chances created. We win it with goals. Should a striker be praised for having 10 shots on target or scoring a goal ?

  31. gonsterous

    Ozil has created next to nothing this season which,in my opinion ,shows how he is struggling with the role he is being asked to play.

    what I’ve seen of ozil he is being asked to play the same role as last season. Maybe he is being asked to defend more but from an attacking point of view, he’s doing the same thing he did last season. Please explain to me what other new role you see him doing ??

  32. Victorious

    tee

    no one should expect wonder from Emery but people should stop attacking anyone that cares to highlight his faults.

    Excellent point thus is

    I’ve been at the end of some disparaging remark by the EKBs for no other offense but for simply highlighting flaws totally by Emery’s doing
    I guess it happens this way maybe because I don’t direct blames to factors that no longer matter, I mean it’s no Wenger’s fault Emery continues to:

    Start Cech and make him play from the back despite not cut out that way and must have directly or indirectly cost us 3 or 4 goals already

    Lingers on with Bellerin when a much better option in Lict continues to rot away in the bench

    Persist with Xhaka whose mistakes is directly responsible for us conceding 2 goals already

    continues to bench a far more disciplined and competent Torreira

    Still allowing Ramsey to wallow in the field of play like a headless chicken without any position to hold on to

    Ozil has his flaws but can barely be recognisable these days partly because of the formation /tactics which he seems to be lost in

    These are decisions under the influence of Emery not any other person and you’re simply deluded and deflecting if you see it any other way

  33. gonsterous

    vic

    Ozil has his flaws but can barely be recognisable these days partly because of the formation /tactics which he seems to be lost in

    We are playing the same formation as last season or the season before that. Stop trying to deflect from the fact that ozil isn’t doing his job or giving his all for the badge.
    If ozil isn’t performing, the manager needs to motivate him , but if a player cannot be motivated (seems the case with ozil) we really have to sell him.

  34. Micheal

    “You’re probably right regarding kroenke.
    To him, Arsenal is the equivalent of a charming and curious antique. He doesn’t know that much about it and let’s others run it. ”

    The last time Kroenke was so excited was when he found a $1 bill which had been dropped by a street beggar.

  35. Victorious

    gonsterous

    Perhaps the same formation but different tactics
    Ozil was a different animal in the first half of last season,really was on a good form, were he was averaging 3 to 4 chances created in every match, then the injuries started piling up which unfortunately ensured his form took a nosedive
    My point is under Emery he seems to barely get a touch, always on the periphery ,a passerby and I witnessed a shocking body language when he was subbed off against the chavs, looks weary and dejected and utterly devoid of energy. something is clearly wrong.

  36. Champagne Charlie

    “I still do but never as a no10. It’s painful to watch him there. I really thought Emery will work with him as one of the double CMs. How wrong was I..His energy, if harnessed well, will be better felt in the middle of the park.“

    I’m the opposite Mystic, can only see Ramsey in an advanced role.

    Energy is all he brings centrally, he’s not mobile, his passing is mediocre, and he’s totally unable to pick the pass for the moment centrally to dictate the pace of a game.

    His ability lies in the final third, but, despite the overselling his third man runs get, he’s too one dimensional a player that is negated all too easily it seems.

  37. gonsterous

    vic

    hahaha chances created , the one stat to defend ozil. Erickson, silva, rakitic,Dr bruyne create chances and seem to have no problem helping the team defend but Lord ozil can’t ? So his sole purpose is to help the attack, something he doesn’t do when facing the big boys or doesn’t seem to want to do it as soon as he is criticized, or doesn’t seem to want to do cause of a recurring “illness” ? do we have space for him in this team ??

  38. gonsterous

    to play ramsey you need a very defensive partner for him, cause he bombards forward and is always caught out of position.
    Playing him in the CAM is useless, cause he doesn’t have the pass or the eye to play that role. He’s not pacy for a winger and isn’t a great dribbler. All his best moments seem to come in training.
    He is a good player but that’s about it, nothing special about him.

  39. China

    Agreed that we hedged our bets on the wrong star player

    Sanchez would’ve been a great one to keep and would’ve demonstrably improved this team

    Ozil doesn’t work in a team that’s struggling because he needs the half the team to accommodate him.

    Honestly I wonder what Sanchez would do if he could go back in timing knowing that wenger would be our and emery in – and knowing that Utd has been a disappointment for him so far

    Scratch that, he’d have seen out his contract and gone to city on a free!

  40. Victorious

    Ramsey has no future with us in an ‘advanced role’, I mean he played as a n10 against west ham and was atrocious,almost cut Monreal in half TWICE with his short passes, You need your creative midfielder to dictate tempo, dribble, execute both short and long passes and also to be dynamic, Ramsey cant do any of those to a satisfactory extent
    A n10 starts the play and not to be at the end of the play which is what Rambo enjoys doing.
    Ozil,Mikki are players far more suitable there..would even try kiddie Smith-Rowe before plunging for Ramsey

  41. gonsterous

    sanchez offers an explosive outlet. He scares defenders. He makes things happen, he would love emerys team press system because he’s not a player who likes the opposition having the ball. He’s not afraid of taking chances against the bigger boys. He is a bit indisciplined but he more than made up for it by his attack.
    So yes, we should have thrown money at him and not ozil.

  42. gonsterous

    But sanchez is a character, who expresses frustration, Wenger couldn’t have that. what if sanchez shouted at one of his babies ?

  43. gonsterous

    vic

    My point is under Emery he seems to barely get a touch, always on the periphery ,a passerby and I witnessed a shocking body language when he was subbed off against the chavs, looks weary and dejected and utterly devoid of energy. something is clearly wrong.

    funny how all the players are positive and loving the change, but with ozil, it’s the opposite. says a lot about the players attitude. He looks devoid and dejected cause he misses wenger.

  44. Emiratesstroller

    China

    There is no point in discussing the wrong option.

    Sanchez was hellbent on leaving the club with a queue of clubs lining to acquire him at a budget price or as Man Utd have done on an exchange deal.

    On the other hand Ozil had limited or no demand. The probability is that if
    Arsenal had not succumbed to his wage demands the player would have left
    in summer most probably to a Turkish or Italian Club.

    From recollection Wenger always maintained that transfer fees were a thing
    of the past and the focus was on wages.

    Sadly that is not the route that most other major clubs in EPL are following.

    The best players in world football still generate large transfer fees.

  45. gonsterous

    on to the weekend. If pool beat spurs, they may just be the real deal this season. Hoping for a draw, so we can catch up.

  46. Victorious

    gons
    funny how all the players are positive and loving the change,”

    Not all, Cech would rather be left to lump the ball upfield, Lict won’t be chuff to bit that a brain dead Bellerin is leaving him out, Leno? Torreria ?

    Ozil is a professional who has played for a fair number of managers and would know when his style of play is not best utilized,when he doesnt fit in to a certain factic which might be tracking back, not playing as 10played as a winger,not playing through him but off him

    You dont think there’s a better way Emery can bring out the best from a talented ozil?

  47. Dissenter

    Where’s Paulinho when you need him.
    We need him to provide balance for Ramsey, to apply lipstick of this pig.
    Ramsey’s energy is his only strength and even then he sues it like a spinning top in the final third.
    He can not dictate play and lacks the passing ability of Xhaka. He cannot create like Ozil and is yet to display defensive nous at the age of 27 years.
    He’s not good enough to start for any team above us so I’m curious to see where he goes to on a free transfer.
    I can’t wait to see the back of him and I really hope we don’t announce a new crazy deal for him in January..

  48. gonsterous

    vic

    If you ask me, I’d rather have laca and auba together on at the same time, leave out ozil and have mhiki and ramsey. Then in January try to get a good winger, and if we can, sell ozil.

    Onto cech, to play the high press, Cechs job is to play from the back, invite pressure so the attack has more spaces to exploit. Cech won’t be no.1 next season but I have a feeling that cech and the club have spoken about something like this being his last hurrah (one of the reason he took up the no.1 shirt). He has made decent stops during the games and mostly its the defence who haven’t been on the same wave length that have caused us conceding.

  49. Prince of nigeria

    players you complaining emery to use he bought dem…. would winger have bought a ball playing keepr he would have kept cech and for ur info….we wouldn’t have won the chavs and d manc we would have drew the west ham game and probably won the cardiff game and thats 4 points and i am nt saying thats what woud have happened it would have been worse…. so Pierreant and vicuntious calm ur fucking balls down