A lack of juice for the Europa mileage?

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Happy Friday my darlings, how are you?

Qarabag?

I see.

Well, let’s be honest, does anyone really care about the first 4 months of the Europa League? It’s a chance to run out the b-team and enjoy a steady flow of fairly straightforward victories. I don’t really have concerns about our ability to deal with a Sporting that has been having an awful summer. Qarabag play to a stadium of 5,800 in Azerbaijan, not that I would ever denigrate a team without watching them play, but outside rampant complacency, you’d hope we’d be ok there. Then there’s FC Vorskla Poltava, who ply their trade in the Ukrainian league, which let’s be fair, has produced some good players, but again, a team the size of Arsenal should be fine.

The major burner with going to Ukraine and Azerbaijan is the distance. Google Maps won’t even give you a flight time it’s so remote. No doubt we’ll go the Netjets route, but the point is you’re going to a different timezone, you’re playing on shite pitches, staying in less than ideal hotels and getting a rough nights sleep heading back to England with next to no prep for your Premier League game. Emery made the point that he respected the team, then made the point about the physical challenges that come with long flights.

When you play two matches in one week it is physically different. It is more hard with less time to prepare for the match or to complete physical work. But we want to do that, we want to play in a lot of matches. After the international break we will play a lot of matches. I can ensure we are willing to use a lot of players.

Conquering the Europa League is all about great planning, or a lot of luck. This trophy is Arsenal’s to lose this year, and it’ll be a great way to sidestep top 4, and win our first European trophy since the Cup Winners Cup final in 1994.

ESPN are running with a story that Ozil and Emery are fine, the German picked up a severe cold that degraded into laryngitis. Interesting it’s taken over a week to give the illness a name and that the club would let someone with a highly contagious illness anywhere near the dressing room. But hey ho, we’ll need Mesut at his absolute best if we’re to make inroads this season, so let’s pray whatever he has had it cured and that he drops an absolute hero performance this weekend against the MIGHTY Cardiff this Sunday.

Let’s start with the gripping news that Emery has banned fruit juice from his players because of the high sugar loads contained within. I personally didn’t realise how much sugar they slinked into those cartons until I worked on a pitch last year. Like, did you know they put corn syrup in a lot of the brands? Unreal, I didn’t. Farm to table my arse!

Anyway, broader point here is that taking sugar away from football players is like you asking the McDonald’s cashier to remove two crispy french fries from your extra large box because you’re running the Hackney quarter marathon. He’s the Crouch End mum banning the kids from Easter Eggs, offering up little Rupert and his friends baked vegan moxarella disappointment sticks as a fun alternative. It’s not going to impact the performance of players who crush through thousands of calories a day because they’re running 80miles a week. Always amusing when coaches try and take away the little things from players who have so little joy in their boxed-in lives.

Now we’ve got that important snippet out the way, can we just find out of LT is going to start?

‘I am very happy with the player. The players are working hard every day and making demands of me to start with their work rate. The possibility of him playing with the starting XI is okay, but I am happy with all of the players and how they are working, not just Lucas.’

The coach hasn’t mastered the English language yet, but he’s learning the politics like a pro.

I hope he can get to grips with the starting 11 he’s settled on, particularly midfield, where I think he’s struggled to find a flavour he likes the taste of (obviously not Sunny D). I’d love to think the future is MG and LT, but I can’t help but think the manager is captivated by Xhaka. The midfield looked far more balanced when he played a little in front of LT in the second half against West Ham last week, so maybe we’ll see that as a starting offering.

Outside that, give me a clean sheet, a solid defensive performance and an Aubameyang hattrick!

That’s me done.

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  1. Victorious

    Giroud was quite the perfect plan B option for any serious team,he has just come on and immediately the chavs looks more direct and threatening
    He’s doing exactly for chavs what he been doing for us, except he’s sitting for a shitty Morata

  2. Victorious

    Ah the international bore in the offing, Looking at dippers and chavs widening the gap on us and it becomes imperative we can’t afford to be dropping points away to any team below us
    A must win against Cardiff to keep up.. arghhhhh

  3. Champagne Charlie

    Lol Neymargate still bubbles under?

    Suppose it will with windbag number 1 continuing to con himself into thinking he was right. Of course he’d nibble at that, the narcissism is palpable.

    Who’s scoring more for Arsenal this season, Auba or Laca?

  4. Joe

    Giroud was quite the perfect plan B option for any serious team,he has just come on and immediately the chavs looks more direct and threatening
    He’s doing exactly for chavs what he been doing for us, except he’s sitting for a shitty Morata

    Contradicting yourself.

    He should have been a plan B for us. He wasn’t. Wenger had him as our #1 striker for 4 plus years.

    He is a plan B for Chelsea hence coming off the bench for morata. No matter how shit morata is.

    Giroud is a great plan B. Not a good plan A.

    I always maintained Giroud would be the best # 2 striker in the league coming off the bench

    Too bad the genius wenger couldn’t see that he wasn’t a leading striker

  5. Un na naai

    Funny how so many laud Giroud now after berating him previously
    At least they can actually admit to his quality now though unlike bam

  6. Joe

    Un na

    Never berated. Not his fault wenger played him as our #1/plan A striker. It’s not his level.

    Imagine if we had kept RvP that summer. RVP and Giroud for a couple seasons would have been immense.

    Giroud is a plan b striker. End of.

  7. Victorious

    Joe

    Wouldn’t get started with you on anything about Wenger, you are obviously incapable of original thinking when it comes to the man

    Your judgement is clouded because from the off you see him as the cause of everything wrong with club, absolute no objectivity

    But in a way I do agree with you on Giroud,he’s a good plan B, and Wengee tried and failed in bringing in a world-class plan A,Giroud is decent enough to start for a functioning team and it’s not a foregone conclusion he will be sitting on the bench for the chavs for long because I see as a matter of time before he starts benching Morata.

  8. mysticleaves

    “Seeing Giroud playing in a very organized system.
    He just ran 60 yards to track the run of an attacker and eventually made the defensive tackle/block.
    Things people do when you make them accountable.”

    Not to act all knowledgeable or stuff but Giroud has always done that when he was with us. You can knock the man for not being top top quality but his effort and application was never in doubt.

    Keeping Giroud and Lacazette and getting a winger instead what we have now would have been the absolute gem.

  9. Joe

    Suarez
    Higuain
    Vardy..etc

    Haha come on man.

    If he really wanted any of them he would have bought them.

    Suarez needed a proper bid put in. Not a derisory +1. Needed to follow it up with a proper bid.

    Higuain was another fuck up.

    All fault goes to wenger on not bringing them in. He fucked up by not bidding properly.

    So no those don’t count.

    Sorry. Those weren’t real efforts on bringing in a #1 striker

  10. mysticleaves

    Think Vardy especially in the last two years would have tanked in our team. We seemed to lose our way in terms of style and was just playing side to side possession football. There was no combination in attack, no system.

    A player of his skill set in the previous teams (2002 – 2011) would have scored his fair share though

  11. Victorious

    West Ham lost again,this time at home to wolves

    Money does fvck all without the brains

    Pellegrini might now be the first manager this season to get the sack

    Thought Mourinho or Silva got that honour on a lock

  12. Champagne Charlie

    “Keeping Giroud and Lacazette and getting a winger instead what we have now would have been the absolute gem.“

    The truth. Auba another Ozil purchase, name and “intent” instead of needs addressed. Weird one

  13. Victorious

    “All fault goes to wenger on not bringing them in.”

    And this in a nutshell is why it becomes tedious to engage you

    You have a box in ideal about Wenger, and you blame him for everything that goes wrong with the club

    The Suarez debacle was a cock-up because dippers made it so, we were actually right to offer that figure,i mean his agent stated that was his release clause,but deal wouldn’t materialize because maybe Suarez didn’t threw more of a hissy or there were details in that contract not binding pool to seek to a rival

    On Higuain,we actually do have a transfer team and contract negotiator (I believe Dick Law) who should be the persons to account for actually happened

    I believed a deal was agreed with Madrid but unfortunately Madrip reneged and upped the fee to accept a much more appealing sum from cash rich Napoli who just got rid of Cavani and had enough to splash

    Vardy’s was a personal decision,his release clause was triggered and probably pressure or fear to fail made him chicken out..cant really blame it all on Wenger, so many factors with different uniqueness in each deal

    How’s that for trying Joey?

  14. Champagne Charlie

    Vic

    You’re wasting your breath mate, it’s all Wengers fault and anything good under him was because of other factors. Wenger was just an empty vessel that stood about at Colney, then sat watching the team.

  15. Joe

    Vic

    It’s tedious to discuss with you because wenger is never at fault for anything

    Wenger had 100% control over everything in regards to football decisions at arsenal.

    Transfer. Wages. Everything

    Wenger did not try hard enough to get them in We couldn’t out bid Napoli to sign higuain? Are you kidding me?

    And if wenger didn’t think he or Suarez were worth more than what he bid?

    Well then he’s an idiot and clueless because their values doubled after their transfers.

    Vardy? Haha

  16. Joe

    Wenger was just an empty vessel that stood about at Colney, then sat watching the team.

    About the first smart thing you’ve ever said on here

  17. Joe

    Of course with CC, Pierre Vic, nothing is wengers fault. He’s a god and was wrongly sacked!

    The last 15 years weren’t his fault. None of it.

    He should still be our manager and all the players that let him down should be hanged.

  18. Joe

    Guess there was no other #1 strikers available other than Suarez, and higuain.

    Wenger really tried.

    Ah shucks. They said no. Better go buy sanago.

  19. Victorious

    Charlie
    You’re wasting your breath mate, it’s all Wengers fault and anything good under him was because of other factors. Wenger was just an empty vessel that stood about at Colney, then sat watching the team.”

    I thought I should give it a go! seeing as he had an interesting discussion with Pierre about tactics yesterday ,Little did I know he will quickly revert to type

    It’s a pathetic perception alright, Wenger merely a bystander sitting there and all the stars aligning to make him one of our best ever manager

    No words.

  20. Un na naai

    Joe
    Of course with CC, Pierre Vic, nothing is wengers fault. He’s a god and was wrongly sacked! The last 15 years weren’t his fault. None of it.

    13 years ago we lost our 50th game on our unbeaten run
    Are you accusing Wenger of masterminding that

  21. Champagne Charlie

    Vic

    He’s one of that special bunch who genuine think wenger became our most successful manager by virtue of other people. It’s amazing really that anyone can carry that view.

    Let him crack on in the delusion, we won in spite of Wenger I hear..

  22. Bob N16

    Redruth, does anybody argue that Wenger was passed it in his last years at Arsenal.
    Saying that Emery’s legacy will be to save Arsenal is hyperbole to the extreme! I hope he does well but save a club that has been an establishment club for 80 years and has been around for 132…come on, really.

  23. Champagne Charlie

    “Fvck me, the Canadian poledancer is back?“

    Hahahahaha don’t like RR much at all but this made me chuckle

  24. Joe

    Funny how once all the leaders left the squad Arsenal have become pretty bang average

    Needless to say, Viera etc won in spite of wengers buffonery.

    The last 12 years shows the true Wenger.

    As does that not one team has come
    In for him.

    So chuckle Charlie and Vic can keep dreaming that wenger was this great manager. He had a great team full of leaders that won in spite of him

    The last decade or so shows just that

  25. Joe

    Haha

    Love how these dudes try to make fun of fire fighters

    Did you wives have an affair with one? Is that why you’re so bitter?

    Keep going though. It’s quite amusing.

    And I was joking about the wives. I know none of you are married 🙂

  26. Joe

    Red

    Agree with you regarding Emery. He will be the one who gets the legacy of making
    arsenal relevant again after a decade plus of being laughing stocks

    No coincidence either that Arsenal went to shit after Dein left and wenger took
    All control.

  27. Un na naai

    It’s dumb not to believe Wenger had a harmful influence on the club.
    Emery’s legacy will be the man who saved the club.

    Fuck me red you’re a proper turnip

  28. David Smith

    Wenger was once magnificent, he milked a scouting network, used methods not heard of in this country, diets, cutting out booze, sports science, physiology, marginal gains to get ahead, he was brilliant at revamping star players who had hit a bad patch at previous clubs,he could develop young players and play a wonderful variety of football, with considerable , unique in the modern era success.
    But, a number of events occurred he never recovered from and steadily declined. Fifty pound notes fired at his finest, losing his best, his scouting network gradually declining, taking on a poverty mentality and refusing to spend properly when losing key players, gradually the game leaving him and his ever present backroom staff behind, loyalty to the under performing, Cesc, losing to Birmingham, 8-2, RVP, a gradual realisation however well covered up that he was falling behind, resulting in a slaveish devotion to what he knew Stan wanted, covering up obvious faults never addressed with talk of values and FFP, responding to media and fans backlashes with increased stubbornness and intransigence, refusal to change, delegate or replace prehistoric staff, still the odd moment of glory -three trophies, but continual, painful , embarrassing decline, until last spring, Watford, Bournemouth, Newcastle, Stoke, goals against, away points, Ivan appoints staff over his head, some fans rise against him, many more just stopped going. To the point where even the man who sustained him in decline was forced to sack him, the most passive owner in sport fired Arsene Wenger, Billy Beane and all that,a man who ruined his legacy to become what he thought Stan wanted him to be. Think about that for a moment.
    Now , in September, the man who was going to coach this season waits for a phone call. He might even get one, but nothing yet.
    Love him of loath him, or anything in between, there is an element of Shakepearian tragedy in there, whatever his rewards.
    Stan should forever hang his head in shame for allowing such an embarrassing decline in a man who once did so much for the club he now owns, but I suspect Stan doesn’t do hanging his head in shame

  29. Champagne Charlie

    Joe

    Nobody is making fun of firefighters, they’re making fun of you because you’ve played your hand and given something to poke fun at. Don’t get the married quip either honestly, are you better for being married? Total non-entity in my life but whatever floats your boat eh.

  30. TheLegendaryDB10

    DS

    But, a number of events occurred he never recovered from and steadily declined.

    To me what really happened is that this “power” he got went straight to his head. He thought of himself as being bigger than the club to the point where he refused/ denied input from everyone around him. He refused to be criticised. He thought that his system was the absolute way of doing things. Unfortunately, like in everything else, time moves on. And he just refused to do so. …. A shame really. If he accepted to have more modern coaches around him, who knows we could have one a PL (I am thinking of the 2015-16 season where we finished 2nd behind Leicester FC).

    On another note, I hope Unai actually makes some changes to our first XI when playing Cardiff fc tomorrow. I particularly want to see Auba and Laca upfront. And Torreira instead of Xhaka.

  31. TheLegendaryDB10

    DS

    Stan should forever hang his head in shame for allowing such an embarrassing decline in a man who once did so much for the club he now owns

    Well when you have an absentee owner who only cares about the $ more than growing the club’s silverware cabinet I am unfortunately not surprised. One may think that he did not give a shit about AW in the end. (Another person he could use to increase the value of The Arsenal)..

  32. David Smith

    Cannot disagree with your points DB10.
    Wenger got paid well, but ultimately, Stan probably let him down.
    Wenger should have gone years ago, but keeping him last summer was not only insane, it did wengers legacy irreparable harm, for those who worry about things like that.
    The power certainly went to wengers head, that’s why responsible owners ,companies and nations have checks and balances. Under Stan, for a long time, Arsenal had none.

  33. Joe

    David Smith

    Why should Stan hold his head in shame?

    Wenger collected near 100m in wages. Had full power and control at arsenal.

    Stan did not cause wengers demise.

    I think wenger just got found out in the last dozen years when you took away the real leaders in the squad

  34. TheLegendaryDB10

    Joe

    He did. He did not have the football mindedness to encourage him to challenge himself to move forward like Dein, who probably would have.

  35. David Smith

    Joe, because he let a manager he reportedly thought so much of completely embarrass himself without any intervention from the top, it is widely believed Stan over ruled the British board members desire for change, despite them being a little closer to the action than Stan ever was.
    Let alone the damage Stan allowed Wenger do to the team and club

  36. Victorious

    Why should Stan hold his head in shame?

    Erhmmm I dunno maybe because
    The arsenal’s fans as it were measure success by silverware, Kroenke merely by silver.

    And in Wenger he found his perfect asset manager.
    Wenger deserves much derision for his faults, but no one can pour scorn on the remarkable consistency of Arsenal under his tutelage. we competed in the Champions League every single season since under him, a truly seismic achievement. Such exploits have sated the desires of us somewhat, but most importantly they have provided Kroenke with a consistent, healthy revenue stream. And all this achieved with minimal transfer spending, at least compared to his Premier League rivals.
    The yank don’t give a flying fvck of sporting success and I believe when SHIT hit the fan in the foreseeable future, fans might try force him to sell(I hope)

  37. Joe

    David

    Why would he sack wenger when so many idiots were chanting one Arsene Wenger

    He should have been sacked after 8-2.

    Should have been sacked when he broke up invincibles because he thought he could win with kids

    He failed. Miserably. But the one Arsene Wenger brigade kept him in a job

  38. Joe

    League every single season since under him, a truly seismic achievement. Such exploits have sated the desires of us somewhat, but most importantly they have provided Kroenke with a consistent, healthy revenue stream. And all this achieved with minimal transfer spending, at least compared to his Premier League rivals.

    Fuck me.

  39. Champagne Charlie

    Joe

    It’s not a hard one, you share something genuine about your life and people will poke fun to goad you. Welcome to the internet

  40. David Smith

    Wenger should have been sacked over a number of issues over recent years, but yes, not many at a top club, with an ambitious owner would survive the 8-2 after a summer of dithering and panic buying, but, well, we know the score.
    Wenger was a major part of taking Arsenal close to the very elite all those years ago, we were so close, perhaps a management change or keeping a man who could managethe manager, spending a bit more, getting an owner who would inject cash into the club, a bit more ambition, but no, the board fucked up, got rid of Dein ( who also screwed up) Stan gradually leeched into a power vacume and a manager who was once invincible became, as posted, a Stan asset manager and declined ever since. Tragic ( I use that term in a sporting sense) for the club, fans, and ultimately ,manager. Wenger should be revered for what he once did , well he isn’t now. Since he sold out to the Yankee dollar. As we know Stan don’t care. But he did seem to care about the empty seats, perhaps one for the future if needed

  41. G

    ..Ronaldo and Messi can’t be considered as one of the greats when neither have managed a single goal in the knock out rounds of the World Cup…

    Lol..just when i think u couldnt come up with any more shit..do u do it on purpose

  42. Marko

    Charlie it’s not necessarily you everyone knows that you are what you are and that’s not going to change but the lackeys who jump on what you say and follow you like some pathetic dogs. Nice little troupe of sycophants you have. Victorious you expect nothing less he’s a dumbshit and then you have that Unai fella here about 5 minutes and he already wants to blow you. It’s all a bit ridiculous really.

  43. TheLegendaryDB10

    DS

    But he did seem to care about the empty seats, perhaps one for the future if needed

    Absolutely. As impossible as it may seem, he shoukd be the next target. As much as I appreciate our sustainability philosophy, I would be glad to have an owner who actually cares about the club.

    Victorious

    a truly seismic achievement. 

    I think you went a bit overboard with this. I don’t think there was anything seismic about being booted out on a consistent basis at the round of 16 in, sometimes, a pretty symbolic fashion.

  44. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    You talk some amount of shit it’s quite impressive. You’ve not a scooby about me, and I’ve barely been on here today what with having a job and all.

    Maybe instead of adjusting your mask and fixing your cape you’d notice it’s the same volatile names getting treated with the respect they show others of “my ilk” is it? I forget. You’re like Banford with his cries of harassment it’s pathetic.

  45. China

    ‘We competed in the champions league every single season’

    Now that my friend depends on your definition of compete.

  46. China

    We took part every year, that definition sure. We were physically present, yeah.

    But relentless fistings by any and every one after the group stages in all but a few seasons somewhat undermine this point

    We’re we more consistent in the cl than anyone else? Absolutely! Was our highly consistent level any threat at all to bring the competition home to north London? No. We looked like we had a chance of winning it only about 3 times and I am being generous at that because it was more like twice

    Every other season ended with embarrassment pretty much.

  47. David Smith

    DB10, hoping, possibly against hope ,that Josh Kroenke is more engaged with the club than his father, and a bit more competitive. He clearly sided with Ivan and possibly others in the removal of Wenger and the vast majority of his staff, credit where due. There are massive and expensive infra structure improvements going on with training and fitness facilities, I have seen reports of £20 m invested? There seems to be a recognition they cannot compete with state funded, but they can seriously improve behind the scenes without Wenger blocking any progress he has not initiated ( so different to his early days )
    I have no issue at all with self sustainability, just a shame Wenger messed things up so badly with recruitment and development , compared even to our non petro dollar rivals but we are where we are and where Stan/Wenger/Gazidis put us. If the current regime move us forward, good on them , they deserve our backing, if Stan hinders, he knows the effect of empty seats , hopefully, he will not go there

  48. China

    You could be the world’s most consistent student and get straight A minus in every single subject. Good stuff! But if you want to go to oxford you’d be better off having a ‘less consistent’ mix of A stars, As and a B. That one B will cost you less than having no A stars

  49. Pat_97

    “Bob he fingered your mum, she wanted it, get over it”, said by Champagne Charlie yesterday evening 17.42,
    and I get banned for having a laugh about the 1st of the day trophy for comments.
    Class act Pedro….

  50. David Smith

    China, just my point , by then, Wenger was possibly burnt out and just pandering to Stan and his lack of ambition to keep his job and unique salary, an ECL place and what it bought in was enough for both Wenger and Stan. There was no ambition to go further, that might cost a thing called money. That I find so sad for the manager of doubles and Invincibles, just how does that level of submissivity to a majority shareholder with no understanding of sport, only real estate and money even work? Wenger is a passionate man, his acquiescence to Stan must burn on some level.
    Back to Europe, Not helped by perennial draws against Barca or Bayern in early stage knockout rounds , and that strange sending RVP off granted, but he still managed to mess up against Monaco. But then again, Wenger never really mastered European competition.
    But, as a wise man, no idea who , once said, tread water for too long, you drown.

  51. TheLegendaryDB10

    DS

    Josh Kroenke is more engaged with the club than his father

    I wouldn’t put my hopes up with this dickhead. He is the son of a multibillionaire who is just trying to show his dad that he can also make a quick buck. I doubt he will be fully going against his dad’s wishes. I don’t see him fully getting the intricacies of running a club at the highest level in the epl. He, just like his dad, just sees us as nothing more than a cash cow. I fear that things will get worse under both of them, which will coincidently unite us to oust these shits out of our club.

    Pat 97

    The top 4 competition of posting on each new blog is a tradition on this blog. If you don’t like it just jog on to another blog.

  52. Joe

    Champions League every single season since under him, a truly seismic achievement.

    Haha seismic achievement is Liecester winning the league. Porto winning the CL. Atletico/Dortmund Winning their leagues. Greece winning the euros.

    Us reaching the CL was bare minimum. That’s it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

    Haha. Seismic achievement Hahahaha

    Fuck me.

  53. TonyD

    Marco

    “Charlie it’s not necessarily you everyone knows that you are what you are and that’s not going to change but the lackeys who jump on what you say and follow you like some pathetic dogs. Nice little troupe of sycophants you have. Victorious you expect nothing less he’s a dumbshit and then you have that Unai fella here about 5 minutes and he already wants to blow you. It’s all a bit ridiculous really.”

    The mark of a man (I use the term loosely in Charlie’s case) can be seen by the level of his followers.

    Charlie’s greatest asset is posting then denying he ever posted it hoping that no one will go looking for said post, which they won’t because who could be bothered.

    The world according to Charlie a legend in his own mind/world.

    Pretty much a flat track bully the way he continues to go after Bamford.

    Charlie the thespian? – more likely the pantomime dame. Guess you’ll be busy over the Xmas period.

  54. gonsterous

    I hope emery doesn’t do the “all is forgotten and forgiven” bs with ozil. Hope he starts with ozil on the bench. Go with mhiki in CAM and Dont play ramsey as CF. Go with the same line up vs west ham. Maybe push bellend top and have licht play RB. Maybe Torreira will get a start along side xhaka. Torreira and gwendouzi together would be a disaster.

  55. Joe

    Gons

    What needs to be forgiven with Ozil? All the reports are saying there was no bust up

    I say start Ozil. Laca. Aubu.

    Torreira

    We should have sold Ramsey this summer. Bought a CM. I can’t even bring myself to name him in a starting line up. But not many options.

  56. Champagne Charlie

    Tinyd

    Thought it was management at 50? Now it’s a thespian?

    Oh, and that’s a hilarious remark about my supposed denying of what I’ve precipus said given it’s quite literally the standard I hold some people to here.

    If you want to quote me saying X feel free to go get it, but to date I’ve had nothing come back to me that I supposedly denied saying. Not paying much attention re:Banford either eh Tone, or is the irony going to miss you entirely as you play dumb to his continued inputs?

  57. gonsterous

    Joe

    what bust up ? I’m talking about forgiving him for the shit show he put up against city and chelsea. The reason why he was going to be dropped for west ham but called in sick. That’s what shouldn’t be forgiven. If I was emery, I would tell him, he’ll get to play the second half and see if he calls in sick again.
    We keep talking about not giving anyone special treatment, and ozil hasn’t done anything to earn special treatment.

  58. gonsterous

    the truth is wenger WAS a great manager for arsenal. He Did wonderful things. But that didn’t give him the right to be above the club. The last 15 years of his reign was a disaster. Which other top club persists with a manager who hasn’t won any thing for 10 years ? He gave us his best years and for that we tolerated his worst. He had to go so that arsenal could rise again. Thanks but now your watch has ended.

  59. Un na naai

    TonyD

    I really enjoy your posts mate but that was a terrible example. Going after Bamford makes you a flat track bully?
    Tosh
    Bamford not only draws negative attention to himself, he actively attacks other posters, normally interrupting a debate he had nothing to do with. I’d say it’s less Charlie attracting “followers” and more that Bamford is continuously forming adversaries from posters who were initially well intentioned.
    Similar to marko although he seems to have dialled it down recently.
    Simply put, if you ever defend Wenger for anything at all, certain players on these pages then you’re assigned to a particular group and that’s that. If anything people like me and Pierre and our views are in the minority on this site and should be celebrated for bringing a little diversity of thought here. Other wise it’s just an anti arsenal bitch fest rather than a supporters club to celebrate our players, managers, heritage and achievements. It’s the complete opposite. Most of these muppets couldn’t tell you much beyond 2004

  60. Samesong

    Is anyone going to even talk about today’s game ffs

    I’ll start off.

    I think we will start off with high press. An early goal to settle the nerves. Cardiff will be dangerous on set pieces so we need to keep that in check.

    But overall 3 points.

  61. Un na naai

    Samesong

    3 points on the board
    100%
    I reckon we will see us a bit more confident going forward today and hopefully a goal or two for one of our strikers.
    Welbz already off the mark. I hope he has a good season and claims a starting spot

  62. Unai

    Sometimes when read here I wonder if Victorious, Charlie, Pierre and the likes were actually watching Arsenal over the last 5 years or so.

    Untold is dead as a community without it’s purpose so it seems the followers are intent on rewriting history wherever possible elsewhere on the internet.

    Emery under pressure, Xhaka/ Giroud top qualadee, All Kronkies fault, blaim the ref, we had no money. Boring and so so wrong.

    We need to move on as a fan base but these types need to accept culpability for propping up abject failure, particularly over the last 2 years.

    In Wenger we trust, Wenger knows…. makes me fucking sick.

  63. Michael24

    Un na naai

    Morning.

    “anti-Arsenal bitch”? Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Mine is purely based on being anti-Wenger, always has been and when appropriate, always will be. The reason for this is the club always comes first.

    Unfortunately, he set the club back years. Even more regrettably, some folk only see this as a mere inconvenience and harp on about his past achievements, which I’ve never disputed, until they’re blue in the face.

    Imo, loyalty shown to him after 2008, was false loyalty. Others saw the consequences of his mismanagement and pushed for change. Again, regrettably, nothing was done until it was far too late.

    Frustration and anger built against the club, which for many detracted from any enjoyment of supporting the team.

    You see Una, even though things are changing, we should never ignore what Wenger did and did not do for the club.

    From my perspective, his past glories pale into insignificance because of his ignorance to act accordingly.

    Having supported the club since 1968, I feel I have a right to say exactly what I feel, irrespective of others point of view.

    Have a nice day.

  64. Champagne Charlie

    Unai

    Your broad stroke assertions just out you as an WOB doing his bit to spew shit at anyone else who dares suggest anything other than the values you hold. It’s your type of intolerance that’s cancerous in all capacities, and that extends beyond football.

    You’ve just lumped various people together and claimed they all believe the same things, then claimed ‘we’ need to accept culpability? What a joke you are.

  65. Unai

    @Michael24, well said.

    A game…

    In the years since Wengers last title win I’ve bought my first, second and third home.

    I got engaged and then married and had 2 children.

    I started working a counter / warehouse operative and have worked my way up through various supervisor/management positions to general manager.

    Wondering what others have achieved in this time.

  66. mysticleaves

    “Pretty much a flat track bully the way he continues to go after Bamford.”

    So Bamford is Cardiff while Charlie is Arsenal. Hmm. Lets hope there’s no upset today.

  67. Champagne Charlie

    Arsenal need a comprehensive win imo, one that will serve to galvanise the group over the international break and start a bit of Emery momentum.

    😀 lol Mystic

  68. Unathanthium

    3-0 to Arsenal.

    Wenger’s ghoul-like presence haunts this place. I’ve heard it said that after a relationship breaks up it takes half the length of that relationship for both parties to get over it. So another dozen years of circular debate about Wenger to endure.

  69. Wallace

    a win, with a more convincing defensive performance(from the team generally) and I’ll be satisfied. and if our two main strikers could get off the mark…

  70. steve

    Lol you just knew it was Vicuntious who wrote that seismic achievement comment. Only he could write something so inane.

    Getting kicked out on his ass 7 years on the trot in the last 16. Several times in embarrassing fashion. Some seismic achievement lol.

  71. VicVic

    Unai.

    ‘In the years since Wengers last title win I’ve bought my first,
    second and third home.
    I got engaged and then married and had 2 children.
    I started working a counter / warehouse operative and have
    worked my way up through various supervisor/management
    positions to general manager.
    Wondering what others have achieved in this time.’

    Or those are just your wishes, I mean, things you would have achieved if not for the missed opportunities.

    Take your silly brag and lunch on it, this is a space for something more concrete.