Emery goes to war with Ozil, here’s how he wins

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As you know, I’ve been quite interested in Unai Emery’s attack on some of the entitlement that goes on at Arsenal. We all knew there were a few areas he was going to have address this season. Ramsey’s lack of discipline, Xhaka’s ineptitude, the overall lack of giving a fuck at Arsenal… then there was Mesut.

A sublime talent that no one in Europe would take a punt on last season, even when he was in the last year of his deal. A player who takes sick days like he’s being bullied at school. A player who floats in and out of relevance. A player who divided fan opinion at a club that was desperate for a megastar.

Yet we still gave him the mother of all contracts to avoid losing him for nothing last summer.

Whether that was CEO ego, or football strategy, one thing is for sure… right now, the deal doesn’t look like good value for money.

The big question I have sits around his power in the dressing room.

How big a personality is a bonified member of the Bling Bling Gang when it comes to the Arsenal dressing room?

I ask, because Emery really is biting off a lot of meat this season. He’s gunning for anyone who can’t work out his system, and he’s taking no prisoners. He’s imposing himself in the club at a rapid pace in order to make sure there can be no excuses for failure this season. The big question is how will the rest of the squad react?

Has Emery hedged his bets that most of the squad find his salary repugnant? Does he gather that most of the boys think he’s a bit of a passenger? Is he guessing that this sort of equality of expectations is going to stand him on good footing?

I hope so. The simple fact of football management is there is a hierarchy. There is no such thing as equality in sport. The way your position is defined in football is usually through talent. You can have a big personality, but if you’re shite, no one is going to pay attention to you. So that begs the question, how much sway does Mesut have with a dressing room that must know he’s a vital part of them getting back in the Champions League this summer? An achievement inextricably linked to their bonuses?

Mourinho is a big fan of rolling into a club and dominating a favourite. He did it to Juan Mata at Chelsea, Rooney at United, Cassilas at Madrid and a little bit of Joe Cole when he was at Chelsea the other time. He goes in, swings his dick, shows the rest of the players unequivocally who is the boss. It works when you’re Jose, because the reality is, he IS the biggest persona in the dressing room and that’s the way he rolls. Not just that, he has the titles to back his credentials.

Emery is a different breed of manager. He tried similar things at PSG in his first year, working his hardest to control big names like Neymar, and it failed. He tanked the one-horse race, then spent the second season being a bitch to the big names. He even said as much in his GFFN interview where he spoke about just letting genius be genius.

Tell that line to Guardiola who will laugh at you.

So here’s the thing, it sounds like Emery is going to war with Mesut Ozil. If he wants to make this work, he has to pray to the footballing gods the football backs up playing hardball with the number one chance creator, space maker, shadow defender the world has ever seen. Because if it goes wrong, it will impact the managers judgement.

Arsenal players knew they couldn’t oust Wenger, so working on a go-slow was never an option, but these players know there’s little connection between Emery, the fans and the board. If they want to end the manager, they can do that now.

It’s also a tough spot to be in. How much of a protest can you make with a player who costs you £1.5m a month? That sort of carryon can only go on so long, because it’ll piss off sponsors and it’ll embarrass the CEO and the new backroom team. Targetting Ozil is absolutely the correct thing to do, but it’s also the most politically charged when you think about it.

Most fans will respond like the players. I’m happy to see the manager throw his weight about, but really, the hope for me is that he inspires people like Mesut to play for him. Reality is the German was NEVER going to be able to track Jorginho, because he’s just not built that way. We’re going to have to find a role for him that he can thrive in, and one that comes with less defensive duties. It’s a chance for Emery to get creative.

Ivan Gazidis and Raul made a cataclysmic mistake spending £350k a week on a player we all knew had commitment issues… but now it’s done and we have to make the most out of it. Motivating a player who doesn’t give a fuck about Arsenal is Emery’s biggest challenge. Making him fall back in love with a game that rejected him so brutally over the last year could cement his legend early on and it’ll go a long way to helping us crack the top 4.

Let’s see where this lands…

See you in the comment, and we’ll be back tomorrow with a podcast. x

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Cesc Appeal

Hold on, this article says that Emery tried to be hard a PSG and then ended up just letting Neymar and the big players do what they want and that was a mistake. You then say we should just let Ozil do what he wants. That he cannot work hard, cannot track back etc so just find a role that allows him to do what he wants? That makes no sense. How on earth can Emery then go to Ramsey, Guendouzi, Aubameyang, Lacazette, Torreira, Xhaka, Bellerin, Monreal etc and ask them to press for all their worth when they see… Read more »

Marko

the problem is that If he really has got health problems then he will be no use to anyone.

I thought this was brilliant good one Pierre

Bob N16

Paddy, First game 1972. ST since Highbury went all-seater. I don’t suffer at all the stadium. Am in Block 6, relatively speaking the noisiest part of the stadium. Guy in front of me starts a fair few of the chants. Not sure which fraud you are talking about but if you mean our ex-manager, his name was only sung in the last two or three home games…not so far this season..certainly not in my area of the ground. I guess my acceptance of the current state is coupled with my unrelenting support of Arsenal, it’s part of my life and… Read more »

Frankie Coffeecakes

“Whatever the problems he is having now ,began about February.”

Yeah, right about the time he signed that ridiculous contract that put him on got it made easy street, Pierre. He’s not the first one that signed on to a secure retirement and wont be the last. Fault lies entirely with the CEO.

Dissenter

Jamie
“Dissenter, Do you think Walcott will finish on more goals than Auba come the end of the season?”

Yes
If Theo stays healthy he will score more goals than Auba
The Everton team’s attacking is built in pace, his pace and Richarlison’s.

Marko

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/club/arsenal/359/blog/post/3613489/mesut-ozil-illness-history-arsenal-playmaker-missing-through-sickness-is-common

It’s actually pathetic. It’s almost like he’s picking and choosing his games. Three games in and around New year’s? Nah no good for me. Away to Liverpool? Nah I’ll rest up for the final you never know I might want to show up against City.

Marko

Yes
If Theo stays healthy he will score more goals than Auba

Man you funny

Marko

We played City Chelsea and West Ham they played Wolves Southampton and Bournemouth and Walcott scored two goals and now the shackles are off and he’s going to outscore Aubameyang… come on man talk about the definition of knee jerk

Dissenter

There were unsubstantiated rumors that Ozil’s new contract allowed him to choose the games he played in. Crazy rumors all right but such is the excempions and special treatment he got from Wenger. I bristled every time Wenger called,him a “perfect” player. We needed a replacement for Van Persia and defensive midfielders in the summer of 2013. Wenger bungled Higuian and Suarez that summer. He failed to get a defensive midfielder even though there were atleast 10 quality DMs moving that summer. He then signed Ozil and Flamini. If you listen to the Wenger water carriers, they’ll tell us to… Read more »

englandsbest

For a number of years there was a civil war going on between Arsenal fans. On the one hand there were those who believed that Wenger could do no wrong, and on the other hand, those who blamed Wenger for every wrong. Kroenke somehow got overlooked. The Wenger Out brigade were so focused on getting rid of him that any negativity about Kroenke was taken to be an effort to dilute the blame. Now that Wenger is gone we can be more dispassionate, more reasoned. There was an illusion that Wenger had as much money as he wanted, but refused… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Theo more goals than Auba?

Huh…you lost me here. Auba has averaged more than 30 a season for how long? Theo has never gotten them in a season.

Weird statement

Valentin

I said before that Unai Emery was a mediocre coach who will be find out tactically and will lose the dressing room within 3 months. That has already started. Cech is so afraid to lose his place that he continue to idiotically play from the back even when it is not on. Wellbeck was frozen out to force him until somebody realised that even if we were to sell him we could not buy another player in January, unless he was an English trained one. Özil has the hump because he is asked to play in a role that he… Read more »

Dissenter

Marko “Yes If Theo stays healthy he will score more goals than AubaMan you funny” Based on what? Where’s the humor from? Auba scored goals in the Bundesliga, so damn what? Mykhi bested that league as best player of one season, Xhaka beasted it as a central midfielder and Kolasinac was in the team of the year. I wondered why no one else contested Auba with us. I thought it was an attitude problem but not it’s becoming obvious he’s not as good as we all thought. I scaled down my expectations of him a while ago and just regarded… Read more »

Frankie Coffeecakes

And let us not forget this about Ozil, this is a guy that even Carlo Ancelotti didnt want (Ancelotti will work with pretty much anyone). Jose Mourinho called him out previously as being essentially lazy. And yet along came Arsenal’s resident doofusses, Wenger and Gazidis to scoop him off the scrap surplus heap.

Should have let him go on a free, he’d be playing in Turkey right now to the adoration of his leaders and living the life of anonymity, to which he most certainly would love to have today. In the end Ozil is his own worst enemy.

Receding Hairline

If Theo stays healthy he will score more goals than Auba

You will undoubtedly be singing a different tune is say three weeks. You are a great poster Dissenter but you have this habit of making statements in the heat of the moment and then a few weeks along the line you are saying an entirely different thing

its actually amusing. Theo was not under shackles, he is just a poor all round footballer who can finish off chances

Marko

If Theo stays healthy, Theo will score more than Auba.If that’s funny then I have a future as a stand up artiste.

Or the village idiot :-). Jokes just jokes. No but seriously Walcott scored 7 in 30 appearences last season while Aubameyang for Arsenal alone scored 10 in 14 not even mentioning his 21 goals for Dortmund prior to joining. It’s an absurd statement to make

Dissenter

I made the same point about Sokratis and pushed back against the so called “e perience” from the Bundesliga. Scoring 30 goals in the Bundesliga doesn’t translate to doing the same in the premier league. Experience in one league does not always translate to other leagues. Auba goes just as missing as Theo in games. He’s a ghost in big games and gets brushed off by defenders with ease. Should have bought a winger with that 55 million in January. I would have kept Giroud 🙂 as well Giroud, Lacazette and an elite winger.with wellbeck as well as Nketiah. Maybe… Read more »

Michael24

Irrespective of Mesut Ozils physical and mental state, he needs to be taught a lesson or two. Look, I sincerely want him to succeed at Arsenal and always have done. I want him to enjoy playing for a wonderful club and embrace what Emery is trying to do to eradicate all the negativity that Wenger created and left behind. Most of all though, I want him to realise that if he continues to show this lackidasical attitude when attempting to fulfill his well rewarded duties, he will continue to feel the wrath of the Arsenal fans. Show some respect to… Read more »

Pierre

BobN16 ” just that I’ve supported Arsenal relentlessly for 46 years and it won’t ever stop- I have no choice in the matter! ” Exactly…this lot on here don’t get do they… Had some of the best years of my life when I was a kid seeing Arsenal win the fairs cup at Highbury and winning the league on the last day of the season at white Hart lane. I have to remind my boys how lucky they were to grow up in the bergkamp,Henry era….that’s as good as it gets for the next 50 years I’m afraid ….and who… Read more »

Pierre

“Show some respect to the Manager, the team and the fans. That’s all we ask.”

Pity you didn’t follow your own advice ,don’t you think.

Receding Hairline

I love all the revisionism that goes on when we sell players that were regularly lambasted on here previously One of such being Giroud. Now someone would rather have kept Giroud than buy Aubameyang, I wonder if that would have been the statement if Auba moved to say Chelsea or Liverpool, we would have been harping on about our slow center forward needing to be replaced. Aubameyang has had a poor three games granted, but he did score 10 in his first 14, and his record for years now sets him out as an elite goal scorer , poacher or… Read more »

Dissenter

Receding Marko Nope I’m just expressing what I’ve always said before. I wondered too loudly at the time why no one else contested the signing of Auba, it was strangely quiet at the time. Everyone said he was undoubtedly world class in January. How many can still say that now with any seriousness ? Does anyone remember the first goal Auba scored for Arsenal? It was 100% offside at home against Everton, he went on to have a run of goals many of which he didn’t know that much about. Had that first goal being properly called offside, I’m not… Read more »

Michael24

Dissenter

I’ll have a bet with you now Dissenter.

Auba will outscore Walcott this season.

I like Theo and feel he was wasted at Arsenal.

He will score many goals for Everton but Auba will score a few more for Arsenal.

Radio Raheem

No comparison between Leno and Coutois situation. One moved in July having a full pre-season, the other moved at the dearth of transfer deadline day. I think there was a unanimous agreement among fans that Cech had to be replaced last season. So, I doubt anyone finds him indispensable. Normally, a club will sign a player that suit its playing style. And you’d expect a manager will pick players he believes will win him matches. There’s no incentive for the manager to hinder his own success under normal circumstances. Leno and Cech have trained and competed against each other in… Read more »

Michael24

Pierre

Ok, I’ll do that.

You’re an embarrassment and probably the most deluded poster and fan on this blog.

Respectful enough?

Jamie

Theo revisionism at its best. Scores a few then inevitably succumbs to injury. He’s as useful as Sturridge to any squad. “If only he was fit for a season, he’d score 30 league goals.”

He won’t be, and he won’t.

Let’s not forget Theo usurping Auba as a top goal-scorer is a a result of him scoring 2 goals in 3 games so far this season, 1 against Southampton, 1 against Bournemouth. Hard not to laugh.

Bob N16

Pierre, Supporters of 30 and under have only experienced the Wenger years, 3 titles, 7 Fa cups, almost never out of the top 4. Where we are now is the worst position we’ve been in during the last 22 years. In the 22 years before Wenger we won the 2 titles, maybe five cups and on occasion finished mid table or lower. Different times but when you’ve experienced mid table mediocrity, finishing 6th and starting the season with a new manager and fresh ideas does allow room for a degree of optimism, obviously coupled with the realism of an unbalanced… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Now I’m the target of the day and I really do not care. No you are not a target, you just made one of your statements you will pretend you did not make a few weeks along the line. The no one else was in for him argument is kind of a funny one because that is not exactly an endorsement of a player, and your breakdown of Aubameyang’s goals last season and the length you went to discredit them is kind of pathetic But that is just classic you on this forum, you pick up a particular thing and… Read more »

Radio Raheem

But yes it’s possible Navas wins the battle against Courtois or is winning the battle at the moment. Who knows? Doesn’t make either shit.

Michael24

Pierre

You’re continuous use of the phrase “this lot” should register a simple message in that confused brain of yours.

The vast majority of posters on le-grove (ie a “lot” of people) ,see and feel where all the problems lie.

On the other hand, you and a few of your friends (the operative word being “few”) continue to hold onto things that are/were the cause of all these problems.

Why is this?

Guilt?

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

I would like Bel to be given a chance at rw with lichstein behind him.

Best way to teach him on the pitch.

Marko

Scoring 30 goals in the Bundesliga doesn’t translate to doing the same in the premier league

Right but the absurdity in your statement for me is Walcott who from 2006-2018 has only hit double figures 4 times across all comps hit 21 goals one solitary time. In fact if you just looked at his league goals it looks like 14 and 10 were the best he could do. So again Walcott outscoring Aubameyang… good one

Receding Hairline

Hello

Marko

Everyone said he was undoubtedly world class in January.
How many can still say that now with any seriousness ?

Is there something wrong with you honestly? He scored 31 goals last season and 10 in 14 since joining us but because he hasn’t scored in the 3 games this season you’re coming up with some ridiculous shite mate. Let’s just wait a bit before throwing in the towel yeah still 10 in 17 games for Arsenal behave

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Best we can hope for is insurance on ozil other wise we are lumbered

Michael24

BobN16

You’re point being?

I’ve supported Arsenal for 50 years.

Pierre

Michael
“This lot” are nearly as bad as “that lot”. down the road.

I may be in the minority on here but my superior knowledge of the game will always keep me one step ahead of the obsessives.

Frankie Coffeecakes

“Supporters of 30 and under have only experienced the Wenger years, 3 titles, 7 Fa cups, almost never out of the top 4. Where we are now is the worst position we’ve been in during the last 22 years.”

Get a grip on yourself already, its only been three games!

Pierre

Michael
“I’ve supported Arsenal for 50 years.”

then you should know better considering the pile of crap that has been served up over the years.

There should be a vote on the worst player in the last 50 years (not including sanogo or bentner)

It has to be lee Chapman for me, ,2nd probably John jenson..

Marko

I may be in the minority on here but my superior knowledge of the game will always keep me one step ahead of the obsessives.

Yeah sure

Cesc Appeal

Should be a good game tonight, Spurs have the ability to really stick the knife into Mourinho

gonsterous

Make no mistake, Emery would have said anything to get the Arsenal gig.

lol, I’m sure arteta or eddie howe would demand a lot, m I rite? I’m sure they would have sat with stan and said “look, I need 400m so we can get back into the top 4”. I wonder how long that interview would have lasted ??

Danny

Clive Allen always gets my vote!

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

How much money did Ivan an Raul think they were gonna have in January ?

I mean did they ghinlnthebpot was gonna be bigger ?
Pumping out on ozil like days to me they think there was money ….

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

John Hawley
Or
Ray hankin
For me as worst strikers

Bob N16

Michael,

Do you seriously need me to simplify my post, giving a context to the experience of supporting Arsenal for longer than just the Wenger years?

You can’t be that stupid….surely?

Bob N16

Danny, I don’t think Allen ever played….

A Willie Young back pass that hit the corner flag comes to mind, although tripping Allen and making him cry in the 1980 Cup Final is a redeeming factor admittedly.

gonsterous

since the English league started in 19something I think we have won it only 4 times. which is saying a lot as to where our level is…

Bob N16

Pierre,
Hillier was worse than Jensen in my memory!

gonsterous

has there been a worse striker than sanogoal to play for arsenal ?

Bob N16

Gonsterous,

No offence but history not your strongest subject.

13 league titles, spread over seven different decades – third most
(+ a record 13 FA cups)

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Bob

He didn’t

It was a triangle bet
We got Kenny
They go Alan
Palace hot a million

Bob N16

Sansom…an Arsenal legend. Most games for England whilst an Arsenal player. Probably the best Arsenal LB in my Arsenal supporting life – just beats Cole!

Gunner2301

Suga3

“This was due to the need to invest a proportion of profits into the squad under the stadium loan agreement”

This is true but Wenger took it upon himself to implement a socialist wage policy to buy loyalty rather than spend it on transfers. The result of which we are still suffering now.

Listen to this twat
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/9782420/Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-defends-his-socialist-wage-plan.html

gonsterous

Bob

No offence but history not your strongest subject.

no offence taken, I assumed wrong it would seem…

SUGA3

G2301,

Of course, it was sheer idiocy to do that. Aspiring ones ‘made it’ and would never get the same £££ anywhere else since (QED), exceptional ones had nothing to aspire to., so they left and we were not able to attract exceptional ones either. Worst model ever. Also, it did cost a lot of money in wages.

Which of these brilliant investments had not fallen into obscurity? Not many. And those that had made it, we sold for a pittance anyway.

englandsbest

Pierre I was around at that time, the golden period, and I seem to recall that George Graham was around too. And David Dein. I am not one to deny that Wenger had his good points, but he inherited players like Bergkamp, Wright, Merson and the best defence in PL to help him along. Plus he had inside knowledge of players like Vieira, Petit, Anelka, Henry when French football was flourishing. And his gambles with Overmars and Kanu came off (unlike Sanogo.) Even so, he managed to accumulate plenty of duds. I think a better tribute is successfully managing to… Read more »

HighburyLegend

“John Hawley
Ray hankin For me as worst strikers”

In Park, Chamakh or SaNOgoal I used to trust!!

HighburyLegend

“Wenger said he was acutely aware of the importance of winning silverware.”

lolZ this one almost killed me!!

Jamie

Sanogo hands down the worst striker to ever wear the shirt. Wenger made him a multi-millionaire.

SUGA3

I saw live the game Park played for AFC. I also saw live Diaby scoring two goals in one game. Stuff to tell one’s grandchildren 😆

englandsbest

Bob N16

Not so sure about Kenny Sansom, I’d take Ashley Cole anytime.

I can never forget a game we lost against Man U. Sansom belting up the wing leaving huge space behind into which Mark Hughes roamed, shrugging people off with his arse, scoring at will.

I remember the centre half, a good player and a sweet fellow, getting the blame.

That was when I thought ‘enough overlapping full backs, too predictable’. And then Ashely came along.

Now with Bellerin I say, ‘you’re supposed to be a fullback, not a right winger’.

Gunner2301

Suga3

True. Someone needs to get to the bottom of why we continually sold our players on the cheap.

Bob N16

Englands,

Probably prefer Sansom for non footballing reasons! Cole did go to Chelsea after all!

Dissenter

Jamie
“Sanogo hands down the worst striker to ever wear the shirt. Wenger made him a multi-millionaire.”
Didn’t Wenger say the kid was depressed or so?

Sanogo did score that hat tick at the Emirates cup though. I really routed for the kid. I hope it works out for him at Toulouse?

gonsterous

gervinho has to be up there for worst arsenal player… I remember the first I saw his hair and thought he had a wig on…

James.wood

Worst forward at Arsenal was David Jenkins.
Transferred to Spurs and we got the very good
Jimmy Robertson a steal.

Dissenter

gonsterous
“gervinho has to be up there for worst arsenal player… I remember the first I saw his hair and thought he had a wig on…”

Was Gervinho worse than Welbeck?
I’m not so sure Hazard will agree with you. Gervinho went on to light up Serie A. He was a good player who struggled in a side that was built to play headless tiki taka. Giroud didn’t have the speed to mount the counters that Gervinho could have provided.

I agree that the fore head and that mop of hair didn’t help though.

Marko

Park was for me. We actually paid for him barely played him and when he did play he looked pretty bad. To this day I’m convinced the only reason that transfer happened was to get him out of military service and to financially add Arsene’s former club who were struggling a bit

Pierre

Who said johm hawley… Definitely the worst striker.

Jimmy robertson swap with david jenkins was a steal… Good shout.

gonsterous

dissenter

he may have done well with roma but he was shit for us. lost the ball like it was going out of fashion.

gonsterous

mou would be very happy with a draw tonight. And maybe a draw will be the best result for us too…

Do One Gambon

Ozil – I’d offer him to Barnet for 3 months, salary paid by us of course. Let the little bug eyed shirker know where his bread is buttered.

Zfree

Some random musings: Jack Wilshere was absent for huge chunks of the game. If that is his “gotta show them what they’re missing” inspired performance, he’s finished as a top level player. Pretty dog shit start to the season and wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he winds up getting dropped soon. The end of that game was extremely nervy. Game management up 2-1 was poor. We’re 3 games into the season and neither of our £50M+ strikers have hit the back of the net. Not a great look Thought Ramsey played well much of the game. Don’t really… Read more »

Dissenter

I think Spurs handled the Hugo Lloris arrest very badly
I’m surprised the media have given them a free pass.

Had he been Raheem Sterling, it would have been bedlam.

Ishola70

You are implying and accusing racism of the British media?

Marko

I would argue systemic racism exists in almost every society but that’s just me

Cesc Appeal

Wilshere with smoking and drinking got more attention than Lloris, so to call racism is silly.

It is more likely the English press would be more obsessed with an established England international because it sells more.

What average Englishmen gives a shit about Lloris?

Dissenter

Ishola
“You are implying and accusing racism of the British media?”

I didn’t suggest that.
You’re the one who made that inference. You and Ian Wright.
I just think the media had it on for Raheem Sterling, for whatever reason.
Maybe Spurs are not considered to be a big club, who knows.

Ishola70

I haven’t made inference or concluded anything.

That’s why it was put in a question format. Question mark at the end.

Dissenter

Ishola
I would consider that to be a loaded question, one that wasn’t based on anything that was written.
Is race the only thing you see when you see Raheem Sterling?
He’s an English international, Lloris is not
He plays for a big club, Lloris does not.
He has controversial tattoos, Lloris does not as far as far as I know
He forced his way from Liverpool and earned a lot of enemies, Lloris doesn’t have the same story.

Why did you assume it was about race?

Champagne charlie

“To this day I’m convinced the only reason that transfer happened was to get him out of military service and to financially add Arsene’s former club who were struggling a bit“

Hope this was said in jest…

Ishola70

I didn’t assume.

It was one angle in which I questioned you.

That you get on your high horse now and go on one of your renowned rants is unfortunate but entirely predictable.

Dissenter

Ishola
What rant?
You were trying to lure me into one of your infamous meltdowns about political correctness.
Nice try though. I saw you coming from a gazillion miles away.

Ishola70

lol

No. I just wanted a yes or no answer on this occasion to my question but of course you make a big play of it Dissenter style.

You big old tart you lol

SUGA3

Park Chu Young transfer was an absolute farce. Not only we spent money on a player who played what, 6 games in total, but also antagonised Lille whilst we were supposed to go after Hazard from them. Pathetic.

Also, we have ruined our image in Korea. Whilst buying PCY was a ploy to increase our presence there. Utterly clueless and laughable.

Dissenter

SUGA
I believe he was not purchased by Wenger. Park Chu Young has said that he didn’t speak to Wenger before he left the Lille medical to come to London.
We blew Lille out of the water with a 2-3X wage package compared with what they were offering. He might have just come for the money alone and hoped to establish himself over time.

Wenger didn’t fancy him and maybe just wanted to prove a point to whoever bought him behind his back.

Marko

Maybe you can explain the Park Chu Young signing better Charlie

China

Park was clearly bought to sell a few shirts in Korea

Transparent as fuck

Anyone remember inamoto? He was not bad but we just loaned him out for eternity whilst collecting revenue from shirt sales from hopefully Japanese who actually thought the club ever actually wanted him

It was embarrassing

Marko

Dissenter respectfully disagree this was in a time of prime Wenger he controlled who we did and didn’t sign. The idea that he didn’t sign off on the transfer is nonsensical

Samesong

We still got Asano lol

arsnil

On a different tangent. What has happened to our other Greek Mavropanos?? Looked like the dog’s bollox every time I watched him play last year but now not getting a sniff. Loved his speed of thought and movement and decisiveness . Surely would add a bit of solidity and sureness to a creaking backline??

Marko

Funny thing is why didn’t we ever sign Honda? Why did we sign up the shit Asian players instead? Honda would have been a good signing

champagne charlie

No Marko, couldn’t build on your impressive breakdown. You nailed it

Dissenter

Marko
Do you think Wenger approved the mad trolley dash of 2012 ?
I suspect there have been times when higher ups intervened to save Wenger from himself.
I also believe Welbeck was one of such transfers.
I have to admit I’m just speculating though.

China

Because we never wanted to pay a few more pennies for players who’d get on the actual field

They were only ever signed to generate hype and sell a field cheap shirts. I honestly doubt we even had any plans for them to play at all and sure enough absolutely none of our Asians did or ever will

China

I really did like inamoto. He wasted half his career on our books. Quality player who could’ve been a solid squad player in a good team

Bamford10

Radio

Exactly. Whatever you think of Cech, one thing we know at the moment is that Emery rates Cech over Leno. This makes Cech indispensable (for the moment) by default. It’s simple logic.

Marko

So you’ve got nothing to add Charlie? No opinion on the signing of Park? Should be a nice peaceful day

Receding Hairline

Exactly. Whatever you think of Cech, one thing we know at the moment is that Emery rates Cech over Leno. This makes Cech indispensable (for the moment) by default. It’s simple logic.

Nah..it’s simple nonsense