Emery talks up control and 1 striker in pre-match prezzer

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I had a little disagreement with some folk on the internet the other day, I was making the point that if you looked at Ivan Gs resume without the context of how football works, you might think he’s blown shit up since he’s been at Arsenal. It’d be pretty easy to hoodwink newbies in the game.

Well, Swiss Ramble dove head first into the numbers and showed quite how bland a job our exiting CEO has done.

This part was particularly damning.

revenue has grown by an impressive £198m under Gazidis, only outpaced by £366m & £303m in absolute terms. However, this was the 2nd smallest % growth of Big 6.’

The other damning indictment of his tenure was our “we deliberately kept some powder dry” strategy that led to us sitting on a pile of cash that diminished in value by 25%+ every summer as the value of players skyrocketed. If challenged, he could say things were tight at Arsenal, but you can’t lie about the huge cash pile that he sat on.

There are so many other shockers I’d be asking about over the years.

Why didn’t you hire in a better scout?

Why didn’t you have the power to enforce a Director Of Football?

What happened with StatDNA?

Why did it take you 10 years to convince the owner that his prized asset was crashing the club?

Milan has hired in an administrator if he does move, good luck to them. The big question for us, is who do the club go in for now? Football CEOs aren’t exactly in abundance.

Emery has been talking to the press about his desire to control more of the game this weekend.

‘My idea is first control, but the opposition want the same. With this control, you can be near to win and then know when you need to change the rhythm. I know we need intensity in every moment in the games. This control is to not let the opposition play. For example in the two first matches, we didn’t have the control [enough – only in some moments, but not like what we need to find to win. Saturday is another match, tactically it will be different. It will be demanding and I want to have more control to find the win in this match.’

You’d imagine West Ham are going to afford us a lot more possession than Chelsea and City, so it’ll be interesting to see how aggressive we move at them, and what the style looks like. Emery reckons we’re toying with three different systems.

‘We are working on different situations tactically. In the first we are playing with four at the back, then we have two and one, and one and two. With two and one, it is like a 4-2-3-1 and one, two, is for a 4-1-4-1 or a 4-3-3. We have players who train in this system. The moment on the pitch is different. If we need to improve in this mobility, the quality is very important, but also how the player is moving on the pitch. I think with two systems, we can continue to progress and think about winning the next match.’

The line up this weekend is going to be very interesting. Xhaka has had a lot of problems, but arguably, against a shite team, he’ll fare better. But for me, the easy games are when the coach should start exploring his best line up. Give LT a start. There’s no point in fucking around with a player who offers monumental X-press-dynamical-contraband stats, but gives up opportunities for fun every game. The stats nerds are all preaching that Xhaka offers us something unique going forward, hinting its hard to replace, without seeing what LT and Guendouzi can offer us.

Now, I’m pretty sure Guendouzi knows how to move the ball forward aggressively, we’ve been drying off damp panties all week watching his highlight videos. From all the tactical write ups I’ve read about Torreira, I’m pretty certain the dynmaic DM knows how to move the ball forward as well. Regardless, it can’t be an argument that because a player has one strong attribute, we should allow ourselves to indulge his weaknesses which include being terrible defensively, slow, and easily rattled under pressure.

The Xhaka argument is Arsene Wenger 2.0. It has all the same folk that argued ‘Judge him in May’ pushing the notion that your eyes and OH GOD NO tears might be lying to you. Arsene Wenger, during his great years, convinced fans to trust in his superior judgement. That created a group of fans who constantly want to tell you why our footballing disasters are in fact creating ‘hidden in plain sight’ MOM performances that only the elite can see. Telling that both Aaron and Ozil have been called out for not doing a job for the team inside the opening 2 games by a proper coach.

The dream of two up front is still just that…

‘At the moment, no. At the moment, I think we need to have the control with the possession, with the positioning on the pitch, with more players inside. And after this possession, to do the attacking moments and defending moments with this balance. But, it is one possibility to continue in our progress and in one moment to try also to play with two scorers. In the last match of the pre-season, against Lazio, I did it with Lacazette and Nketiah. But also, this position also for the players, they know that in one moment we can do that. But at the moment, no.’

Let’s see where that idea goes as the season progresses, hard to see how Lacazette works into our system because of his lack of pace. I wonder how many chances Eddie lands this season? Also, I like that Auba is in crisis after two games without a goal… the coach has these words for him.

‘The first is to create chances, situations and attacking moments where the player arrive in the box and with the balance to use the small space the opposition gives us. And then, I am sure they are going to score if we create a lot of chances in the game. The first idea for us on Saturday is to create these chances and then the players’ confidence for starting to arrive in the box, to score. Maybe the players can not score three good chances in one match and on another day, I am sure they are going to do maybe the same chances in one match and score three. For that, Aubameyang is a player who, in his career, has scored a lot and he is going to do that here also.’

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293 Responses to “Emery talks up control and 1 striker in pre-match prezzer”

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  1. gambon

    For example 10 goals per season is fairly good for a wide attacker.

    Mo Salah scored 31 last season for Liverpool.

    If he scores 3, 3, and 3 the next 3 seasons in a row, he can say “i averaged 10 per season” but the truth would be he has been a real disappointment, one season aside.

  2. tee

    ozil is making his weekly dough while y’all sit here to bark like a rabid dog. the fact remains he will still start tomorrow game.

    I just hope y’all have your HBP pills by your sides.

    if Emery is starting him then Emery should be blamed for not having the balls to bench him.

    I’m not scolding ozil for earning 350k just like a lot of you have been overstating it as if it will lead to his wage deduction/reduction. it’s only an idiot that will reject such a pay.

    most of you who were talking trash when chelsea were leading us by 2 goals were the same morons preaching the “let’s give him time” mantra when we were level before half time.

    if you already know Ramsey, Xhaka, Ozil and the other le-grove scapegoats are shit then while do the posters bother to write shit posts about them during matches? it’s like flogging a dead horse.

    I had it all when one idiot called Michael denounced his support for arsenal here only to come back to attack some posters whose perspective differ from his.

  3. Receding Hairline

    Makes me laugh when 19 year old fans from Peru and Namibia call Rosicky or Flamini a legend.

    Teenagers from Peru and Namibia and any other part of the globe have a right to be Arsenal fans, and also can choose which players they identify with. You like Merson as Arsenal legend, fine good for you, don’t tell others who to like and stop talking about other Nationalities like you are superior to them. On the evidence of things you say here you are not.

  4. mysticleaves

    KDB has padded his stats in a very weak 2year period too. He’s not super human like you people make him look.

    As for Erikson I wouldn’t touch him because the system he plays in has enabled him more than his “stellar” talents has stood out. He does take shots though and i want Ozil to try more of it.

    That post about stats I made it to show one poster (cesc appeal or Marko) the big chances created stat he always asked Pierre about.

    As for your tripe Gambon. Ozil has only had a good .5 year in England. Yet against your lords Erikson and KDB he still leads them in all those departments despite playing very poorly in the last 2 years. Those other players must have been sleeping for that 6 months.

  5. englandsbest

    All this discussion of Ozil bewilders me. Wenger bought the guy to ease his damaged ego, he had been made to look foolish by the Suarez debacle.. He didn’t need Ozil, he needed a first class striker (plus some decent defenders.)

    Nobody denies Ozil has talent, but he was superfluous then, and he is superfluous now. He is not a player who suits the PL.

    Giving him a contract at £350K per week was another example of Wenger ego. He couldn’t take the shame of losing both his star signings.

  6. mysticleaves

    “Nobody denies Ozil has talent, but he was superfluous then, and he is superfluous now. He is not a player who suits the PL.”

    A player who leads the other players in most if not all areas of discourse as a number 10 is not suite to play in the PL. Have heard it all

  7. Dissenter

    Englandbest
    “All this discussion of Ozil bewilders me. Wenger bought the guy to ease his damaged ego, he had been made to look foolish by the Suarez debacle.. He didn’t need Ozil, he needed a first class striker (plus some decent defenders.)”

    That was the same summer we declined to sugn Higuain
    Ozil was bought to change the tone of the summer .
    I agree we didn’t need him necayze Cazorla had just had a monster season. We needed a center forward and a defensive midfielder that summer.

  8. Dissenter

    Mystic
    For all your yammering, which major club game for Ozil when he had one year or six months left on his contract?

  9. gambon

    Sorry Mystic, you think Ozil has better numbers than DeBruyne?

    Since KDB came to the PL….

    DeBruyne averages 7 goals and 14.3 assists per season

    Ozil 6 goals, 12 assists

    KDB is much younger, and also averages twice as many defensive actions per game as lazy Mesut.

    So you are, as always completely wrong.

    As for the last 2 years being a very weak period, are you fucking kidding me?

    You really are unbelievably thick. Its taken 100 and 93 points to win the PL the last 2 seasons (thats the 1st and 3rd highest ever). Its taken 76 and 75 points to finish top 4, thats the 2nd and 3rd highest ever.

    There are 6 big teams in the PL, unlike the 0 big teams there were when Ozil had his only good 3 months ever.

    You are the reason foreign supporters arent taken seriously. You arent an Arsenal fan, just an agenda driven nutjob who idolises a few hipsters within the team.

  10. mysticleaves

    Dissenter, we don’t know. There was hot rumors that Barcelona and Man utd were in for him anyway. At least we know Bayern didn’t try.

    I also agreed that we ddnt need Ozil when we bought him but to say he doesn’t suit the PL after the records he has made is dim.

  11. gambon

    The PL has taken a massive step up in quality in the last 2 years, due to managers like Poch, Klopp and Guardiola.

    Players like Eriksen and DeBruyne have stepped up……Ozil has visibly just wilted away, like the lightweight eunuch that he is.

  12. mysticleaves

    Gambon. you are an idiot. Man city made 100 points and the second placed team made 81 points. that’s not close.

    The previous season Chelsea ran away with the league after winning 14 straight matches which man city broke this past season.

    The fact that you expect your greatest creative force to make world class defensive numbers shows you are the agenda driven type. And because you are from England doesn’t mean you know jack shit.

    Admittedly Ozil has been poor for two seasons OFFENSIVELY. i would rather he recovers his offensive spark than look forward to him making DM numbers

  13. Dissenter

    Mystic,
    Dissenter, we don’t know. There was hot rumors that Barcelona and Man utd were in for him anyway”

    Nope
    No one came for him.
    Sanchez was in the same boat as he was
    City we’re ready to fly him from Chile on the last day of the deadline to complete a 60 million transfer.
    United we’re desperate for him and made him the leagues highest earner.

    For Ozil….nada. There were no offers beyond all ththe nonsense agents drop on the tabloids.
    He deserves all the scorn he gets, not that he cares.
    That type of wage for a player who doesn’t consistently earn it brings scorn. It’s life and he has to deal with it.

  14. Arse&Nose©

    What player comparison stats don’t take into account is the team around these players.

    KDB has been part of a winning team with a superior squad than Ozil, this doesn’t explain everything but is a significant factor in his individual success.

  15. mysticleaves

    “The PL has taken a massive step up in quality in the last 2 years, due to managers like Poch, Klopp and Guardiola.”

    Quality of over all league strength or quality of some specific teams which has even made the league weaker. local numpty.

  16. gambon

    Has anyone ever thought that the only reason Ozil was ever capable of decent numbers was because of his tragically low work rate?

    Ozil is capable of 12-20 G&A per season, with low defensive numbers.

    Eriksen is capable of 20 G&A with double the defensive numbers.

    KDB is capable of 24 G&A with double the defensive numbers.

  17. mysticleaves

    Dissenter

    Again, we don’t know. There were rumors. Ozil wouldn’t be clubless now nor in Turkey/China if he didn’t renew his contract

    “KDB has been part of a winning team with a superior squad than Ozil, this doesn’t explain everything but is a significant factor in his individual success.”

    True that.

  18. VicVic

    tee.

    ‘I’m not scolding ozil for earning 350k just like a lot of you
    have been overstating it as if it will lead to his wage
    deduction/reduction. it’s only an idiot that will reject such a
    pay.’

    Or only an idiot would make such an offer.

    If Ozil remains on £140,000 and play hide and seek like he does, maybe fine. But he is grabbing what should be the transfer fee for the winger we didn’t sign last window because(just assuming)of lack of funds!

  19. mysticleaves

    Ozils work rate OFFENSIVELY is second to none. The other teams systems help them boost their defensive numbers. When he was at Madrid, because of the system, he did more defensive work.

    Given a choice, most attackers would want to be free to express their attacking talent. That’s why players run from Jose.

    Martial, your crush is slated for not doing defensive work yet you cream yourself about his offensive prowess.

  20. gambon

    A&N

    Aaron Ramsey played 300 minutes less than Ozil last season, in deeper positions, and had 15 G&A to Ozils 12.

    In the same team.

    Ozil has no excuse for his absolute nose dive in recent seasons.

    As people have said, I think there may be a case of depression, maybe hes transitioning and ingesting too much estrogen.

  21. Arse&Nose©

    Ozil is capable of 12-20 G&A per season, with low defensive numbers.
    (Given no defensive responsibilities until this season)

    Eriksen is capable of 20 G&A with double the defensive numbers.
    (Part of a team that presses aggressively)

    KDB is capable of 24 G&A with double the defensive numbers.
    (Part of a team that presses aggressively)

  22. Arse&Nose©

    Ramsey has an interesting relationship with stats, they make him look world class, however, when you watch him he is often putting the team in the shit by making crazy gambles to get into the box.

    Unfortunately, stats don’t quite track the effect an out of position midfielder has on his team conceding chances, if they did I would bet Ramsey would top the league for it.

  23. VicVic

    Gambon

    ‘You are the reason foreign supporters arent taken seriously.
    You arent an Arsenal fan’

    Foreign supporters are what make arsenal a global brand, you fucking addict!

    Can’t you make your say without bringing shit into it always?

    You freaking bozo.

  24. Arse&Nose©

    gambon

    A&N
    OK, so how well is the new Ozil doing? Touched the ball 15 times against Chelsea.

    ——-

    He’s doing terribly, it’s like asking a fish to climb Kilimanjaro before giving it a chance to grown legs.

  25. gambon

    Have you ever seen anyone less impressive physically than Ozil as well?

    He weighs about 10st, but is like 28% body fat.

  26. Dissenter

    Mystic
    You’ve been carrying Ozil’s water for a loooooong time.
    You’re the only one that still says his wage is not 350k weekly when everywhere else you look amongst thousemwho ought to be in know says 350k
    I mean you even went as far as trying to mitigate his silly wages to make him look better.

    We used to have an excellent poster called Romford, who changed his moniker to “Romford Ozil Pele”. The moniker was quietly changed back to Romford Pele when he realized he was endeared to expensive turd.

    I have a proposal for you.
    Why don’t you take up that Ozil moniker. Add it to yours to make it official.

  27. VicVic

    ‘If Wenger had his way, we would have paid 95 million for
    Lemar …on top of the 350k weekly wage for Ozil.’

    That would have been the proper icing on the cake!

  28. Bamford10

    Pierre

    “Chances created” is a bullshit stat. Any pass that leads to a shot on goal of any kind whatsoever is regarded as a “chance” created. A player like Ozil — who spends all of his time in the attacking third and never looks to shoot himself — is bound to accumulate a lot of those.

    Totally meaningless. Look at his assists and goals since arriving Arsenal. Not that great, as gambon has laid out many times. Look at his production against top opposition: pathetic.

    He is a talented player, but he is a pussy, is mentally weak, lacks physical strength and has no shot. He has been a supreme disappointment at Arsenal.

    Your silly campaign in his defense is convincing no one.

  29. DivineSherlock

    So this season since there is no Wenger to piss on to , there is Ozil the scapegoat. I agree his current form is poor but the guy is super talented and since its only early to judge Emery , its also too earlt to judge Ozil . Everyone gets a second chance guys , It was all Wenger’s fault remember?

  30. Bamford10

    Pierre

    “Tut Tut bamford… As you know, I have never said that [i.e., that you need two holding mids or that B2B’s are obsolete].”

    Really? Isn’t that what you implied below & in your connected comments?

    “It amazes me that the fans like Paulinho – who abused wenger for so long about his lack of tactical knowledge – still persist in wanting box to box midfielders.”

    Why is it wrong to like a system in which you have one holding mid(say, Casemiro,) one B2B (say, Kroos) and one more creative, advanced CM (Modric)? Please explain.

  31. VicVic

    ‘“You freaking bozo.”
    And it seems some foreign fans watch too many 1980s films.’

    Correct gambon, foreign fans in touch with CLASS and HISTORY.

    Two words you don’t fancy, obviously.

  32. HighburyLegend

    ” its also too earlt to judge Ozil . ”

    lol, it’s been “a bit too early” since 2 seasons, jokehead.

  33. Paulinho

    “Unfortunately, stats don’t quite track the effect an out of position midfielder has on his team conceding chances, if they did I would bet Ramsey would top the league for it”

    If there was a stat for a central midfielder making chances due to forward runs, direct assists and goals as well as third man runs, I’m sure he would be top of it too.

  34. Cesc Appeal

    It’s no surprise Ozil is playing poorly look at what he went through this summer.

    That is one that will be doing the rounds by the end of the season.

    The Ozil defence is laughable as his supporters cower behind two statistics which other posters have obliterated with context and comparisons today.

    At least though they show 100x more fight than the little weasel they are defending.

    I always said Ozil is Wenger’s ideas on football personified, no wonder the usual suspects are now going to the trenches for him.

  35. Marko

    Another day another Ozil debate. Why do we do this to ourselves. Every pundit and football watching person bar a handful of sycophants know he’s a weakling who doesn’t care anymore. What I don’t understand is how supposed Arsenal (super)fans are the only ones who back him anymore considering he quite clearly does not care about the club. If he had the chance to leave he would have but there was no interest and he wanted the money.

  36. VicVic

    ‘Ramsey has an interesting relationship with stats, they make
    him look world class, however, when you watch him he is
    often putting the team in the shit by making crazy gambles to
    get into the box.’

    Ramsey unique runs from deep and his nose for goals make him look world class.
    Not £225,000 per week world class, though.

  37. DivineSherlock

    Its funny how everyone don’t rate Ozil but Emery does. If he’s so shit as you claim to know why doesn’t he drop him , as he did with Ramsey.

  38. Marko

    If there was a stat for a central midfielder making chances due to forward runs, direct assists and goals as well as third man runs, I’m sure he would be top of it too.

    I’m sorry but this waffle is as bad as the chances created stats for Ozil or the Xhaka 5 yard sideways passing stat bollox they come out with. You’re all the same at this stage. God help you people when we actually get to witness a proper midfield with proper balance again. You’re heads will not be able to comprehend what is happening

  39. Cesc Appeal

    Really want us to absolutely trash West Ham, sick of all this Wilshere s**t this week. He was not in any way valuable to Arsenal, he decided to leave, end of story.

  40. DivineSherlock

    I am defending Ozil cause he’s an Arsenal player . Thats what fans do support your players , team . Yes his current form is poor. But you dont get better by sitting on the bench , Emery knows this thats why he plays him. Cause he is a super fcuking talent.

  41. Marko

    Its funny how everyone don’t rate Ozil but Emery does. If he’s so shit as you claim to know why doesn’t he drop him , as he did with Ramsey.

    Been hooked twice after poor performances. I’m sure if we had a bigger and better squad he’d be nowhere near the team but unfortunately we don’t so he’s going to be played and hope that once in a while he’ll put in a performance. It’s his last season with us. Mark my words him and Xhaka’s days are numbered. Either they go or Emery goes

  42. Marko

    Yes his current form is poor. But you dont get better by sitting on the bench , Emery knows this thats why he plays him. Cause he is a super fcuking talent.

    He keeps getting played and for two seasons his form has left him. How much longer we giving him?

  43. mysticleaves

    “If Wenger had his way, we would have paid 95 million for Lemar …on top of the 350k weekly wage for Ozil.”

    That was a phantom bid bros. Not even sure Wenger sanctioned it. IG knew we weren’t getting Lemar regardless. There was also the 80m bid for Mbappe when madrid had already posted a higher bid.

    As for me carrying Ozil, I can’t say I am particularly about Ozil. Xhaka and Ozil are the two people discussed to death on this blog so I tend to offer my opinion.

    A lot of people also say 300. Earlier on I read 250. Even if he makes 350k what the fuck do you care?

  44. Marko

    A lot of people also say 300. Earlier on I read 250. Even if he makes 350k what the fuck do you care?

    People with this kind of attitude are ignoramuses. I’m sorry but there’s such a thing as a budget and compliance with regards to wages now and if we have every shit weakling in the squad on 350,000 or 225,000 a week then how are we ever going to improve as a team?

  45. DivineSherlock

    Marko

    But it was Wenger who played him , Wenger didn’t have the balls to drop him . Emery has . He has shown a disregard for reputations. If he didn’t believe in Ozil he wouldnt start him simple. So if he believes Ozil is good enough , I do as well.

  46. Champagne charlie

    So Adidas from next season to a tune of 60 mil per year for the next 5 (double Puma).

    And we couldn’t get a bit of a leg up from Stan to get a bit of stardust end of window for Emerys opening campaign? Can’t even rummage for a penny knowing coffers are coming.

    That’s why he’s not my sort.

  47. Pierre

    Marko
    “He keeps getting played and for two seasons his form has left him. How much longer we giving him?”

    I refer you to my earlier post in which for the first half of last season (before his injury problems ), ozil was the most creative player in Europe…. Yes Europe… His form couldnt have left him for those 4/5 months could it.

    Messi, debruynne, hazard, eriksen and the rest were less creative than a player “who’s form has left him”…

  48. Champagne charlie

    “Look at his assists and goals since arriving Arsenal. Not that great, as gambon has laid out many times“

    Isn’t he currently the fastest prem player to reach 50 assists or something?

    But sure, make things up as you go along and call it insight.

  49. Marko

    So Adidas from next season to a tune of 60 mil per year for the next 5 (double Puma).

    Good deal. But that’s next season and we’re self sufficient. Get top 4 and Stan won’t have to put his hand in his own pocket next summer either

  50. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    You’ve already stated numerous times how we aren’t equipped for top 4, so do explain…

    If only we could’ve invested more knowing next season a cash injection is incoming.

  51. Marko

    I refer you to my earlier post…Messi, debruynne, hazard, eriksen and the rest were less creative than a player “who’s form has left him”…

    Ozil last two seasons in the league. 8 goals and 9 assists then 4 goals and 8 assists last season. Erikson 8 and 15 and then 10 goals and 10 assists last season. DeBruyne 6 goals and 18 assists and then last season 8 goals and 16 assists. Messi last two seasons 37 goals and 9 assists and then last season 34 goals and 12 assists.

  52. Marko

    You’ve already stated numerous times how we aren’t equipped for top 4, so do explain…

    Have I? I mean we’ve got a chance if some of the other teams in the top 6 struggle and we strengthen in January. Yes I know signings…

  53. Marko

    If only we could’ve invested more knowing next season a cash injection is incoming.

    If only. But that’s not the model at the club as you know. If only we didn’t try selling Xhaka and the likes

  54. VicVic

    ‘Get top 4 and Stan won’t have to put his hand in his own pocket
    next summer either’

    Top 4 this season?
    No sure but let’s see.

    Sarri’s Chelsea are like candidates.
    Liverpool are candidates.
    City are retaining the title.

    That leaves us with spuds and United racing for the only slot left.

    Oh, mine, some race!

  55. Pierre

    CC
    “Isn’t he currently the fastest prem player to reach 50 assists or something”

    And he managed that with giroud as our centre forward,that says it all really.

  56. Marko

    How do Marko’s stats on Ozil stats match up to Gambon’s?

    Nothing compared to Pierre’s I’m league 2 he’s champions league

  57. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    Ahh so no the self sustaining model is fair cop to trot out as a defence? Imagine that. It’s Kroenkes football club, he’s known that’s the outcome for months so why are you so hell bent on preaching a self sustaining model?

    How does that benefit us given our current circumstances? Oh it doesn’t, just gives you an apparent ‘out’ when Stanley gets a mention.

    Just to round up: you think we can challenge for top four IF others fail, and we buy in jan? That’s what we call NOT equipped for top 4…

  58. Michael24

    mysticleaves

    The Lemar “phantom bid” was a purely a PR stunt.

    Trying to get the fans on board after the disasters of Sanchez and Ozil. Wenger (not sure about the board) became so predictable in his attempts to cover up his gross negligence, it all became rather embarrassing.

    @Pierre.

    What are the stats on Ozils assists against top 6 teams?

    Not sure if you’ve provided this information before, but, if you have, please refresh my memory.

    Cheers.

  59. gambon

    “Its funny how everyone don’t rate Ozil but Emery does. If he’s so shit as you claim to know why doesn’t he drop him , as he did with Ramsey.”

    Who does he drop him for?

    18 year old Nelson?

    Alex Iwobi?

    Ozil may be rubbish, but so are the alternatives.

    Replacing Ozil means selling him and going into the transfer market, not playing an even worse player.

  60. gambon

    I dont think the Lemar bid was PR, i just think it was typical Wenger in recent years.

    Going into transfer windows with absolutely no plan, then shitting himself towards the end.

  61. Marko

    Just to round up: you think we can challenge for top four IF others fail, and we buy in jan? That’s what we call NOT equipped for top 4…

    Right and I agree and for years we’ve gone into seasons ill (or not) equipped and this season was worse because we’re two seasons out of the champions league (for some reason). I mean I’m not deflecting I’m just pointing out that we are self sustaining and have been for as long as I can remember. It’s never been a problem before Wenger left why is that? Anyway I agree I wish we had that sweet Walmart money bankrolling us to success but unfortunately it is not we are self sufficient. I mean we should have sold players like Xhaka that would have made our budget bigger

  62. gambon

    Why would Kroenke invest more at present?

    We are already spending more than everyone outside of City & UTD.

    The problem isnt how much we’ve been spending, its how we’ve been spending it. That issue isnt solved by spending more.

    If we had signed Kante instead of Xhaka, Van Dijk instead of Mustafi, Dele Alli instead of Takuma fucking Asano, and Salah instead of Lacazette, we would still be in the top 4.

  63. Marko

    The Lemar bid wasn’t a phantom bid by the way the player and club acknowledged it. We just left it too late. Wenger dithered. I know shocking.

  64. Paulinho

    “And he managed that with giroud as our centre forward,that says it all really.”

    Oh yeah, this reminds me, what happened to the whole Ozil will explode with a fast mobile number nine thing? Turned out to be a load of tripe, which people who analysed his game knew would happen.

    Giroud helped him reach those figures because he is a cross merchant.

  65. Pierre

    Michael
    I have said many times that if I was manager there Would be certain away games that I would consider leaving him out, so I am not blind to his faults.

    If the manager (whoever he is) chooses to play him then he should be criticised if the decision fails.

    My argument regarding ozil is the stupid assumption that he was playing rubbish for the first half of last season despite creating the most chances in Europe…

  66. Michael24

    Another stat for consideration.

    How many times, over these past 5 years, has Ozil been culpable for goals conceded because he either –

    1. Didn’t track back or press.
    2. Lost out on a tackle.
    3. Failed to cover for a colleague.
    4. Wasn’t aware that he was putting a teammate under pressure.
    5. Promoted a negative body language.
    6. Wasn’t prepared to fight for the team.

    Now these are the stats I want to see.

  67. gonsterous

    Teenagers from Peru and Namibia and any other part of the globe have a right to be Arsenal fans, and also can choose which players they identify with. You like Merson as Arsenal legend, fine good for you, don’t tell others who to like and stop talking about other Nationalities like you are superior to them. On the evidence of things you say here you are not.

    I don’t know who was on the receiving end of this but damn, they just got schooled…

  68. Michael24

    My argument is that you can have wonderful stats against the lesser teams but not so good stats when it comes to playing against the top sides.

    The thing is, whatever way we look at things, Mesut Ozil remains an enigma, or, should I say, a persistent headache?

  69. Pierre

    Paulinho
    “Oh yeah, this reminds me, what happened to the whole Ozil will explode with a fast mobile number nine thing? Turned out to be a load of tripe, which people who analysed his game knew would happen.”

    I think you will find that ozil and aubamayang have rarely played together in the last 6 months.

  70. Pierre

    Michael
    “How many times, over these past 5 years, has Ozil been culpable for goals conceded because he either –1. Didn’t track back or press.
    2. Lost out on a tackle.
    3. Failed to cover for a colleague.
    4. Wasn’t aware that he was putting a teammate under pressure.
    5. Promoted a negative body language.
    6. Wasn’t prepared to fight for the team.”

    Now you are just being silly

  71. englandsbest

    On ‘self-sustaining model’, it’s worth reminding ourselves that the budget is loaded with the annual stadium debt repayment (c £30 mill I believe). Add that up over the past ten years, £300mill, most of it at a time when a top grade striker could be had for £30 mill or less.

    Nobody is asking for a benevolent owner, a billionaire who puts his own money into the Club. But nor do we ask for a greedy businessman who uses Club revenue to clear the debt. Something that is likely to get much worse if he loads the £550 miil he borrowed onto the Club.

  72. Bob N16

    Could be wrong England but I seem to recall it’s more like £15m a year ‘mortgage’. Your point still stands though.

  73. gonsterous

    would ozil be a totally different player for pep ? I believe so. would de burye be a totally shit player for us ? I believe so… But that’s my take…

  74. gambon

    “would ozil be a totally different player for pep ? ”

    No, I think its more a case that Pep wouldnt buy Ozil, and would sell him if he did have him, due to his lack of intensity and skinny fat physique.

  75. Michael24

    Now for the serious stuff.

    Arsenal 3 West Ham 1.

    24 hours to go and getting quite excited.

    Tend to forget these feelings after years of numbness.

  76. Cesc Appeal

    We should be winning tomorrow, but Emery needs to put on a really controlling display and I would like to see a nicely balanced line up with no more cramming players in just to play them.

    Bit surprised that Emery did that in the City game given that he is all about systems and preparation.

    But then you have to cut some slack given that he is new and no doubt some questions will have been asked if he had left out some our so called established players.

  77. Arse&Nose©

    The problem isnt how much we’ve been spending, its how we’ve been spending it. That issue isnt solved by spending more.If we had signed Kante instead of Xhaka, Van Dijk instead of Mustafi, Dele Alli instead of Takuma fucking Asano, and Salah instead of Lacazette, we would still be in the top 4.

    —-

    Spot on, we’ve spent really badly not just on transfers but also on player wages. It is shocking that we struggle to move on average players because we pay them so well that they can’t get better elsewhere.

  78. TitsMcGee

    It’s no surprise Ozil is playing poorly look at what he went through this summer.”

    Many people have had a go at Ozil. From former managers to pundits to fans of his respective clubs to the national team fans.

  79. Michael24

    I’ve said it before on here, and I’ll say it again, Lacazette is a very important player for Arsenal.

    If those gilt edged chances that Auba fluffed up against Chelsea had fallen to Lacazette, I’m convinced he would have found the back of the net.

    These two playing together, can be devastating.

  80. Cesc Appeal

    Lacazette fluffed a chance against City and basically handed Chelsea their winner, or at least started their move off completely unnecessarily.

    Fans tend to do this, the player not playing is the salvation, more out of hope than reality.

    Lacazette is a good player, but he is not some lethal ST and the way Emery is talking as a few of us on here said it might have made more sense to sell one of our STs and buy a winger.

  81. Wenker-wanger

    When the going gets tough, the tough get going…..
    When the going gets tough ozil runss away and hides in the “hole” …..
    No doubting his skill and speed of thought, but football is much much more than that

  82. Michael24

    gambon

    Who said “he’s the new Thierry”?

    What I’m saying is that he, along with Auba, can benefit the team.

    20+ goals, no problem.

  83. Wenker-wanger

    Lacazette?
    Limited effectiveness. Not the total package. Good striker but not top quality.
    Wenger paid way over the odds for him….but that’s typically Wenger; if he is french then Wenger doubled the valuation. Sometimes I thought Wenger was unconsciously bolstering the French league with extra finances……sort of nationalistic attitude.

  84. Michael24

    Cesc

    So you’re blaming Lacazette for fluffing a chance against MC and being the cause of our defeat against Chelsea.

    Marvellous.

    Am I the only one shaking my head in disbelief?

  85. Wenker-wanger

    Cesc, I assess the current arsenal players as you do. I get your examples and for lacazette there are many…he can’t volley that’s for sure. Trouble here is defenders of certain players can always provide examples of goals and other contributions.

  86. Cesc Appeal

    M24

    Lacazette fluffed a chance against City, you were extolling his finishing ability, so highly relevant wouldn’t you say? Who else should be blamed for fluffing that, the wind?

    Lacazette also completely unnecessarily and carelessly gave Chelsea position which led to their winner, is he to blame for the loss? That’s not what I’m saying, is he to blame for Alonso scoring? He certainly takes a massive share of them blame because he had a simple pass to Aubameyang, goodness knows what he was attempting.

    I’m right there with you shaking my head in disbelief, don’t worry.

  87. Cesc Appeal

    Wenker

    Agreed.

    Happens with all players, very rarely is a player totally indefensible. It’s all preference, or a lot of it is, but often when you stop isolating that player and put them in the bigger picture that is the best way of looking at it.

    I don’t really get our approach with Aubameyang and Lacazette. I wanted Lacazette sold so that we could buy an actual winger but it seemed as if they were going to be played together so I could see the sense in not selling. But now it seems like we are just going with a single ST and as such I have to question the logic of keeping a player you could sell for maybe £30-40 Million on the bench when we have absolutely no wingers and our lack of pace and width is hurting us.

    I don’t get that.

  88. Michael24

    Whatever any else thinks, I’m a Lacazette fan.

    Let’s see how things pan out shall we.

    Remember the date.

    August 24th, 2018.

    20 goals to go.

    The fun starts here.

  89. kc

    Would also like to see Auba and Lacazette playing together up front. With our lack of wide players and abundance in CAMs and Strikers, I’d love to see Emery try a 4222 lineup. How appropriate it would be if he switched to it tomorrow vs Pellegrini. Steal one straight from the Engineer’s play book.

  90. gonsterous

    I like laca actually and I think if he and auba plays, both will get a good amount of goals. I don’t see why both can’t get 15 goals this season, not to mention most strikers stat pad against lower oppositions like west ham…

  91. Cesc Appeal

    I don’t know that we have the full backs for two up front though.

    This is what I’m saying with cutting Emery some slack, this squad is so unbalanced and not really fit for purposes for anything whether that is 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3, 4-4-2, nothing.

  92. Cesc Appeal

    I can see the sense in Aubameyang, Lacazette, Iwobi/Welbeck as a front line, it is probably the best we can manage, not perfect obviously. But it does not seem like Emery wants to try that.

    Just find some of our decisions this summer a bit weird. Have to take account of the fact that maybe we just cannot shift our players.

  93. G8

    Lacazette unnecessary miss pass definitely cost us the game..
    saying that I would rather play him as lone striker than Auba.
    I am afraid in the last 2 games Auba is more of aTheo than a Henry..

    Ideally Emre should play them both.

  94. englandsbest

    Bob N16

    I checked (as much as one can, given AFC secrecy) What I discovered is not good news.

    The stadium cost was £390 mill, £130 mill paid up front, £260 mill borrowed.

    in 2006 interest rates were around 10% pa, which on £260 mill is £26m pa. This continues to the end of the loan ( I didn’t check but seem to recall is 2031).
    Add to that the loan money itself over the length of the loan, (say 26 years) which comes to £10 mill pa. An annual total of £36 mill.

    I don’t believe it is quite as ad as that. From memory I think the annual repayment is around £31 mill. The downside of that the loan probably continues beyond 2031, to perhaps 2034.

  95. Pierre

    Boisterous
    “remember a time when laca was hot shit on this blog. Like martial Is for most people right now.”

    That was before he signed for arsenal…..Eriksen seems to be the flavour of the day …gambon must have some great stats for Eriksen the way he is bigging him up ,they must put ozil s stats to shame eh gambon

  96. gonsterous

    I did like what we Did with the wings though against chelsea. We seemed to play through the middle against city (I only saw highlights so I could be wrong ) and we seemed attack from the wings against chelsea so there definitely is a game plan against different oppositions. it’s just a matter of results now.

  97. gonsterous

    anyone else getting really annoyed by all the laughing going on in training ? I mean, tomorrow is the game, why are they still joking around? ffs, my school team were more focused than these guys…

  98. gambon

    Englandsbest

    Sorry, youre miles off.

    We swapped the £260m loan for bonds(15-25 yrs), at about 5.3%

    It comes to about £19m pa overall.

  99. Leftsidesanch

    Your probably on your own Gon,

    Its not military boot camp. I’m not sure laughing in training has a direct correlation with their on pitch performance either.

    Relax

  100. Marc

    I love the way our stadium debt (that’s 12 years old now roughly the equivalent of half way through a standard mortgage) is seen as a serious issue but the Spud’s new stadium which is currently being quoted at costing £1 billion, that’s £1,000,0000,000 is no issue at all.

  101. Bob N16

    Not sure Marc whether it is that serious. I do remember Usmanov supposedly offering to clear the debt but Kroenke didn’t fancy it.

    You’re right about Spurs’ debt. I read that their current wage bill on workers around the clock ( eg £400 a day for serious numbers of electricians) is more than their outgoings on the players’ wages!

    Warms the heart I have to say.

  102. Marc

    Bob

    I was mostly being flippant. There are a number of posters on here who are so unbalanced with opinions it’s a joke – every player we have is over paid and rubbish but every other team has amazing players on a pittance.

    It will be interesting to see what happens between now and the end of the international transfer window. The Spud’s have Dembele and Alderweireld down to a year left on their contracts and they cannot afford to see £50 million walk out of the door for free.

  103. Cesc Appeal

    Sheikh Mansour’s cousin failed with a £2 Billion bid for Liverpool apparently. Listen mate, if you want to take on your cousin and also own a club in a far nicer place than Liverpool there’s this club owned by someone who has just become the sole owner making this whole buying thing a little easier. Regards, every Arsenal fan alive.

    I saw that DarrenArsenal thinks there is a buyer in talks with Spurs, please, please, no.

  104. Unai

    Mystic

    “KDB has padded his stats in a very weak 2year period too. He’s not super human like you people make him look.

    As for Erikson I wouldn’t touch him ”

    Laughable, If only Ozil was on that level.

    He’s the equivalent to buying a Bentley on HP only for the engine to blow as the warranty expires.

  105. London gunner

    Arsenal 4 West ham 1

    We going to destroy them and yet still miss many chances.

    This team is full of goals could have scored 6 or 7 against Chelsea

  106. mysticleaves

    How many times, over these past 5 years, has Ozil been culpable for goals conceded because he either –
    1. Didn’t track back or press.
    2. Lost out on a tackle.
    3. Failed to cover for a colleague.
    4. Wasn’t aware that he was putting a teammate under pressure.
    5. Promoted a negative body language.
    6. Wasn’t prepared to fight for the team.

    Would actually like to see this and it would be a sum total of ZERO.

    People need to realise that behind Ozil there’s still two CMs and 4 defenders. Ozil not tracking back will not make us concede goals rather him not creating chances aplenty will make us not score enough. As a fan which is more important to you from your no 10?

  107. Mark

    @nepGunnerAugust 23, 2018 17:25:38
    The same freaking “judge so & so on May” lot are out here day after day criticizing the new regime at Arsenal after just TWO bloody games..

    Well said!!
    It’s unbelievable how people just expect instant success. We still have the most of the same players as last year, all fucking completely Wengerised. It’s gonna take time. We may even lose to the hammers.
    It doesn’t matter. If you Can’t see any pluses/improvement , it’s down to you settings unrealistically high expectations for the team at THIS moment!

    We will improve and start to win, and I predict that by the end of the season we will be playing some of the best football AFC have played in a long long time.

    I reckon most of you will be happy of the direction that the team have been moving in, regardless of our position.

    Guendozi Baller !!! Xaka should be benched , he’s shit. It was a straight yellow all-day against Chelsea, totally unnecessary , slow and clumsy challenge. He’s a total liability!!

    I’ve been itching to see Mavroponos, he looks quality IMO. I’d play him over Mustafi. It just seems that we don’t give our youth enough chances in the league. ( Not under Weng anyway)
    I reckon that’s why we’ve lost quite a few of the best youngsters for peanuts .

    Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

  108. Mark

    @Vic

    , I mean a new manager comes in and he’s not been put over a barrel to play players he perceives to be SHIT because at the end of the day it’s on him to deliver results,…

    As suggested maybe it’s part of his clean slate method. Players have been given a chance. At least he’s not mucking around in getting the underperforming players off. Which has been a breath of fresh air. No longer screaming” get him off.. ” only for Weng to keep emailing on and start them the next match.
    “You play Shit this game don’t worry you start . You will have another chance to rectify those performances ….” (Thank god he has left the building.
    I just hope Bellend doesn’t start.

    @Vic
    Other teams change managers and I don’t see their fans pinning it on the shit players…

    Those fans usually give the In-coming manager some slack and don’t judge them after 1-2 games Especially if the outgoing manager was a complete prick who left the club up shit creek.

    We know that Emery was not given a warchest like most incoming managers, so just chill, it’s gonna take time.

  109. Mark

    @Pierre
    ” Not sure what the amount he earns has to with it…. ( Re: Ozil)

    Pierre it’s simple;
    1. He’s not worth that money
    2. He’s a waste of Fucking money.
    3. No-one else would pay him that money based on his performances over the last few seasons.
    5. We could have a much more productive players/players for £350k s week.
    6. His performances are embarrassing for us to be paying him that money in the PL, for what we get back.
    7.He is weak and puts in minimal effort for £350k what message does this send to other players in the team.
    8. Regularly goes missing in games where you need your ‘ Top ‘ players.
    9. Why is playing with our £350k a week man often Like playing with a man less, than the opposition?

    All of the above outweigh the occasional positive things he does. Everyone talks about his chances created stats, well fuck that! I bet he tops the chances missed list.

    Chance missed by making little effort/not bothering to attempt to challenge or tackle a player who started an attack which resulted in a goal for the other team.

    Failing to shoot when in great positions.
    Never do I see him receive the ball and drive explosively at the opposing team beat a man ,drop the shoulder on another and smash it into the top or bottom corner.

    Put his body on the line tracking back and making interceptions. Grabbing hold of a game and really influencing it, the one who makes the difference consistently .(De Bruyne)
    For me I’d expect a player to be ticking a lot more of those boxes for £350k a week.

    In a club in football financial freefall , that is a sizeable chunk of money that could be put to much better use than on one player who (in theory) promises much but delivers so little.

    That’s why what he earns is a Big issue!

    He just doesn’t have it as a complete player for me. The odd glimpse of magic but he’s always seemed so weak, easily shrugged off the ball. Like he was constantly ill as a child and had to stay indoors, watching the other children playing football in the street.

    “Vy doezn’t he kom down und play” some would ask?
    “He has ze sikkness, he cannot go outzide…”
    So he played with , I mean by himself in his bedroom. Taught himself how to play, Then they found a cure.

    He just strikes me as an indulged child, only tries hard in flashes of anger or frustration cos he hasn’t got his own way.
    That’s what his body language and demeanor say to me.
    £350k pissed up the wall, far as I’m concerned. Get rid of anyhow we can asap, I’ve seen enough thanks.

  110. Mark

    @Divine

    Its funny how everyone don’t rate Ozil but Emery does. If he’s so shit as you claim to know why doesn’t he drop him , …..

    It’s been 2 matches when could he have dropped him ? He’s supposed to be our jewel in the crown, but has been poor, so he’s been subbed.

    Should he have been dropped after just one match? ( Probably cos he’s a pussy & weak & wet . I had to add ‘ weak’ in there to remain focused ) That match being against the current Champions & record breakers too.

    If you’re trying to manage a problem player you’re not gonna get results acting like tha, not with Ozil.

    He’s given him chances to shine/fix up, but Ozil has been found wanting, so he’s been subbed. Fair enough.

    He’ll give him a few more chances,on those wages you would. But it’s not to say that he won’t drop him!
    To ask why it hasn’t already happened 2 games in is a bit silly, if you think about it.