Emery looks for first win

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So I had to miss two days of a stag do because of work. I’ve arrived at what I ‘think’ is the destination, but no one is awake. I’ve let myself into a house with no number. So this could be the last you read of me if I’ve made a mistake and I’m camping out in some random MAGA fanatics house in Nevada.

Buuuut, while I’m here, why not pen a post?

Arsenal take on the mighty Chavs who were going to build a new stadium until their owner had his visa revoked. I mean, not that we can brag, our owner is currently prying shares away from Arsenal fans as he prepares to take the club offline as we move into the Silent Arsenal era.

I digress.

Big things to look out for today.

Cech: the manager stated he believes in his number one after a slightly erratic display on the opening day where he was pushed into taking the most touches of any keeper in the league (54 I think). Rumours are buzzing around the web that the club aren’t impressed with Leno, which is quite a sorry situation considering it was very well known he’d had a shite season. Anyway, it’s Pete at #1 again, let’s see how he rolls.

Midfield: Xhaka was pony against City, so were most of the midfield. Will Emery double down on his faith in that 11 or will we see some change? Torreira should come in, but who would move away? Guendouzi who we all forgave for school boy mistakes, or Xhaka who is absolute toilet?

There will also be questions around Ramsey, who was very ineffective outside leading the press. He was yanked on 54, will he get another chance tomorrow? If he does, will the manager rethink the role?

Strikers: Auba has tended to look a touch average against top teams. He’s easily nullified and he doesn’t have much of a hold up game. Will Emery persist with his vision of counter attacking football with one striker leading the line, or will he give us all Lacazette and Auba in an iteration of 4-1–2-1-2? We certainly looked more dangerous with two strikers than we did with one. We also probably look more dangerous with Ozil in at 10.

For me, anything above zero points would be nice. It’s too early in this project to feel hopeful of toppling an excellent Chelsea squad with a very good manager. Our main focus is how we take 24 points from the next 8 games. That’s our build up to a massive against Liverpool in November. By then we’ll have a realistic view of how good or bad our season is going to be.

It’s kind of odd how underwhelmed everyone is so early on in the season. The Wenger hangover is a three day one without doubt. That can either work really well for Emery, because expectations are so low, or it could go badly, because we’ll turn quickly. After reading around the web, it’s pretty clear that the one thing Emery lacks with the fans is an emotional connection. If results go badly, no one is going to fight the managers corner, which is why it’s incredibly important he gets some small wins in early and racks up a run. That might not come today, but it’s going to have to soon because the honeymoon feels like it finished at the airport.

Right, see you in the comments.

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  1. David Stevenson

    Ozil is an absolute disgrace. I cannot remember the last time he made any positive impact on a big game. He was an integral part of Germany’s failure at the world cup making the build up all about him rather than to look at himself and justify his place in the team. The truth is that he shouldn’t be anywhere near a top class football team. It is the action of a coward to blame circumstances he created himself for walking out. And a charlatan coward he most certainly id

  2. Receding hairline

    I really don’t believe Dembele was for sale.

    The way we abandoned the Malcolm thing is weird through. I hope Emery does not insist on starting Ozil and Mkhi for big games going forward. We can still milk a lot from this squad against the lesser lights.

    We now absolutely need to string together at least 5 straight wins.

  3. TheLegendaryDB10


    For me we were miles better first half against Chelsea

    Errr you mean the last 15 mins I hope (when we scored) because for the first 30 mins we were piss poor.


    The pressing game started just before we scored with Aubameyang and we continued it until half time where we decided to then leave it in the changing room.

    We pressed for the first 15 mins (and I am being generous) and then lost it the moment Chelski scored. After that there was very sporadic pressing. … The players have not yet got it what is meant by pressing as a team.

  4. HasDon

    Ozil fucking awful he has pocketed his £350k a week and retired from football
    Xhaka another shocker sell in Jan
    Bellerin we should have sold him to Barca.The guy cant defend .Lichtsteiner is now our number 1 RB

    Taking over the shower of shite Wenger left him wasnt gong to be fixed in a day

  5. Samesong

    Second Half Gwen went long trying to get Auba more involved. Mki and Ozil couldn’t keep possession long enough to bring others into game.

  6. Champagne charlie


    We were getting caught down the right over and over, but we caused them all kinds of trouble and should’ve scored 4/5 in the first half at the Bridge.

    Not saying it was anything remotely flawless, just much much better then the anemic second half that saw them camped in our half and us having about 30% of the ball.

  7. Nelson

    The substitutions show that Emery has the balls he just has to show it in his selections now.

    It is correct he sub out Ozil. But he should be replaced by a defensive player to go for a tie. Overall, the defensive setup was so bad in the first half. We defended with a high line and our 2 CB’s are so slow. He also uses 2 midfielders instead of 3. I start to lose confidence on Emery’s defensive knowhow.

  8. VicVic

    “But I am happy with Mesut, and we are going to do with him the same work, the
    same help, and demanding also for work every day.
    “At the moment, what he is doing I am happy with. He is one player who I am
    sure who will do a good season.”

    Emery on Ozil.

    This team is fucked.

  9. Cesc Appeal

    Fingers crossed that is just a manager being a manager, otherwise we’re f****d, no future for this side with Ozil need to move past him and become a modern team in midfield and attack.

    Emery cannot be that stupid, Ozil is receiving condemnation from just about everyone. Unless of course Emery’s instructions were walk around like a gigantic pussy until I substitute you in which case Ozil nailed it.

  10. Majesticgooner

    Emery should have changed to 3 5 2 in the second half we were being overrun in the midfield, even though he made the right substitution the system was the problem, Chelsea had more numbers there and kept winning the ball back.

  11. TheLegendaryDB10


    I agree with the fact that we had golden chances to score… but the fact that we didn’t didn’t help us at all. Had we done so, this would have made gauging this game that much more difficult.

    As you say, we are very flawed at the moment. It will take time for Emery to properly assess what is needed for the team and most certainly buy players that will fit his style. Although it has become very clear that the top priority is to replace Xhaka and Ozil. Two massive liabilities to the team. The lack of funds is a clear hindrance.

    I am not asking for a sugar daddy, but you will surely agree that we need £££ to turn this team around with players who will have real quality and a hunger to perform.

  12. Olumide

    Cesc Appeal
    Fingers crossed that is just a manager being a manager, otherwise we’re f****d, no future for this side with Ozil need to move past him and become a modern team in midfield and attack.Emery cannot be that stupid, Ozil is receiving condemnation from just about everyone. Unless of course Emery’s instructions were walk around like a gigantic pussy until I substitute you in which case Ozil nailed it.
    You’re reading too much into what he said. I’d rather look at Emery’s action. If Ozil was great, he wouldn’t have subbed him off.
    You can’t expect him to slaughter Ozil in the press.

  13. VicVic

    Did anyone seriously notice Ozil’s expression when finally being subbed?
    Like a guy who just came out of a nasty pain!
    This guy seems to desperately hate football these days, why can’t we just leave him alone and just pay him his money.
    Then we maybe lucky to find some club in China to take him off us for free in Jan.

  14. Cesc Appeal


    That is what I mean, a manager being a manager.

    Iwobi or Mkhitaryan could have been substituted, but it was Ozil, that should be telling. Emery cannot be that stupid, Ozil was disgraceful yet again in a tough game.

  15. TheLegendaryDB10


    Might I add that he is disgraceful in wearing our shirt. Just fucking flog him to China, or more likely to the US where he will find his level of pussying around his “stylish” football against non-entities.

  16. TheLegendaryDB10


    Absolutely. He will find his party scene, and a space to park his yacht there. And most importantly he will be able to apply his total lack of effort and still be praised as a footballing genius.

  17. David Smith

    Didn’t end well but Emery showed more balls today than Wenger has done over ten years.
    The era of untouchables and unsubstitutables seems to be over.

  18. Buckagh

    Your Comment Here

    Not concerned with respect right now.
    It’s points on the board that count and respect follows

  19. Marko

    Gotta drop some serious coin on that defence. I’m thinking like 50-70 million alone quit messing around. Missed a trick not picking up Ricardo Perreira or Mitchell Weiser who moved for 19 and 12 million this summer. We’re in a situation where we need to make champions league in order to be able to get better players to replace the shite one’s we have but in order to do that we need the shite one’s to step up.

  20. TheLegendaryDB10


    Ozil shouldn’t keep his place but ive a feeling Emery won’t drop him.

    The only “reason” that Unai can’t drop him is due to his obscene paycheck. If Unai had any balls he should bench him after every woeful performance he puts in.

    It has been said before, but I genuinely think that Ozil has given upon playing football at the highest level. Up to him to prove us wrong.

  21. Carts

    Could only catch MOTD, and from what I saw, our finishing was shambolic; as was our bemusing decision to employ a high line was slow, dopey CBs.

    We tuck those chances away and we’d have effectively got the 3 points.

    Unlike watching the game live, where you’re able to see everything, I’m not able to give an objective opinion on Ozil, Bellerin and Xhaka

    Sooner Emery fields a balanced team the better.

  22. Marko

    Ozil’s a problem that’s only going to get worse. The way he reacted to the substitution. Serious questions being asked of him and he doesn’t look like he’s got it in him to answer any of his critics

  23. Pierrei

    As I have said before…why have we hired a manager who plays a certain style of football but do not have the players to play that style effectively and will not give him the funds to build a team to implement that style….not very bright is it.

    We now have no composure on the ball so be prepared for most teams to have greater possession than us until we rid ourselves of the headless chicken syndrome.

    As for blaming ozil for the defeat I would just like to say that it wasn’t ozil playing at right back and repeatedly getting caught out of position and it wasn’t ozil who missed sitters in front of goal and It wasn’t ozil who dived out of the way of the ball for chelseas soft 2nd goal…. Thank god for that.. Imagine the criticism that would have come his way.

    Ozil had a quiet/poor game and is Obviously struggling with our new headless chicken style of football and he is having no influence on the game.

    I would say his chances created stat is zero but as many on here regard creating chances as pointless then it makes no difference.
    Personally I regard creating chances as an important part of the game.

  24. Cesc Appeal

    Ozil is entitled, there’s no way around it.

    His time at Arsenal has turned him into a spoiled brat.

    He needed a great big reality check but unfortunately us handing him £350 000 a week basically did the opposite to that.

    We’ve put Emery into a difficult position now because doubtless the question will be asked why are you not playing or why are you not getting the best out of our £350 000 player.

    Emery should just say listen, you’re the idiots who gave him £350 000 a week it isn’t my fault if you cannot evaluate worth.

    Seriously though, whoever signed off on that wants shooting.

    I wouldn’t have cared if Ozil would have walked on a free and actually I would have liked to see how the situation played out. No interest in him in January my betting would be we would have signed him up at the end of the season for far less wages than we ended up paying when he realised the type of clubs interested in him and the wages on offer.

    Even if he had left I would rather have seen him go on a free than spend £18 500 000 a year on that pussy.

  25. Cesc Appeal

    ‘As for blaming ozil for the defeat I would just like to say that it wasn’t ozil playing at right back and repeatedly getting caught out of position and it wasn’t ozil who missed sitters in front of goal and It wasn’t ozil who dived out of the way of the ball for chelseas soft 2nd goal…. Thank god for that.. Imagine the criticism that would have come his way.’

    No one is blaming him for the defeat, see the criticism of Bellerin and Xhaka as well.

    People are saying the pussy played like shit again, in a big game, again.

  26. TheLegendaryDB10


    As I have said before…why have we hired a manager who plays a certain style of football but do not have the players to play that style effectively and will not give him the funds to build a team to implement that style….not very bright is it.

    If you have followed anything that has happened in the past, you would know that being out of the CL has drastically reduced our budget. Kroenke will not put a penny in. So we are in a situation where Unai has been dealt a very bad hand (thanks to AW) and has to make do with it.

  27. Marko

    Not sure there’s a set up for Ozil left in world football anymore. Can’t play in the number 10 anymore he is almost playing like he doesn’t care and you can’t play him on the left or right anymore. Of course his detractors want him in a team of workhorses basically doing everything for him while he walks around and puts in aimless crosses every now and then.

  28. David Smith

    Get the firm impression that Emery will deal well with the Ozil situation, and ultimately get something better out of him.
    On another note, Wenger said he would be coaching this season and had plenty of offers, anyone have any news on that front?

  29. David Smith

    As for Ozil, do what Real did, just play him for part of the game then sub him, emery didn’t give him that wage

  30. Cesc Appeal


    I agree.

    Said a while back there is no longer a need for Ozil in modern football, his position doesn’t exist anymore. Players like De Bruyne, Eriksen, Hazard etc they’ve all had to develop multiple traits and talents away from their preferred position and preferred role in a game.

  31. Cesc Appeal

    Mkhitaryan showed today that he can be dangerous for us, didn’t play that well but still got a goal and an assist and should have had another goal as well.

    We have a situation where you have to play either Ozil or Mkhitaryan.

    I’m still not sold on Lacazette at ST and Aubameyang at LM but we can give it a go, again I think that will end up being a case of playing either Lacazette or Aubameyang.

    I actually thought Iwobi was decent enough today, some didn’t rate him but I thought he was good.

  32. Buckhurst Gun

    Mesut Ozil is on no ones wish list – for fucks sake ,he’s being shown up by a 19 year old from the French 2nd division , ifthat doesn’t tell you he’s fucking shit i don’t know what will

  33. TheLegendaryDB10


    On another note, Wenger said he would be coaching this season and had plenty of offers, anyone have any news on that front?

    You know full well that if he had taken up a new coaching role that would have been plastered all over Sky Sports. Use your common sense. He has been employed nowhere.


    Ozil is a busted flush. If he wanted to be the player he was, he would have shown his worth today after the Germany fiasco.

  34. David Smith

    Someone like Iwobi, who has talent, and if he works hard, could thrive, this manager is not afraid of dropping big shots, others could get a chance.
    Some big wake up calls today.
    Good to see Cech put in a decent enough performance, at least with shot stopping and saves, now he is free from the shackles of world renowned keeper guru Gerry Peyton

  35. TheLegendaryDB10


    And that is if he can get arsed to do so. … That said, don’t you think a 350k per week player that he is should be able to show up in the big games?

  36. TheLegendaryDB10

    Talking of tongue i cheek, I was starting to think that GoH was right. Until he subbed Xhaka at half-time. I think he is now slowly starting to realise the mountain he has to climb with some of the players we have.

  37. Marko

    Even if he comes along next week against a dire West Ham team and plays well it shouldn’t take away from the abject performances in the other games. It’s not enough to beat really shit teams at home we need more and better than that

  38. Marko

    The good thing is that at least Emery is trying to remedy the problems. If something isn’t working he’s shown he’s not afraid to make changes before and during the match. These players must realize that unlike in the previous regime certain tendencies will not be tolerated anymore.

  39. Cesc Appeal

    ‘Mkhitaryan is fucking awful isn’t he?’

    He didn’t have the greatest game to begin with and wasn’t really that great throughout in terms of his defensive work, but attacking wise he was dangerous. Managed to get a goal and an assist and should really have scored another. He finds good positions on the edge of the box when we attack.

    He cannot play that RM role though, he doesn’t have the legs anymore and it means the already poor defensively Bellerin is left even more vulnerable.

    I think he should be given a go at CAM though, Ozil was total s**t yet again and I know he will turn up against total s**t at home but really now we need to developing the core of our team going forward.

    If Ozil is a player you cannot play away at the top sides or away in difficult games, or at home against the top sides then he should be given the CAM role at all and he should be the one playing out wide before being dropped.

    We can see if Mkhitaryan can find his feet there that way.

    The problem now is we have a nice run of games and players like Ozil might well end up looking good until we play Liverpool and everyone remembers he’s a wet fart.

    This is why moving forward we cannot keep him, if we want to be a serious team, if we want to challenge then how can you have a player who is your best paid, the second highest paid in the league, who certain fans think is world class, but that most fans admit cannot play in big games?

    What the f**k.

    Imagine saying that about De Bruyne, Kane, Hazard, Salah etc.

    The problem is as long as he’s here we’re not moving on, we’re paying him too much and he can be too effective against the utter s**t to drop him.

  40. TheLegendaryDB10


    I know what you mean, but I would rather we cut ourselves loose from him.

    You will see what I mean as the season unfolds itself. His reaction when he was subbed was one who knew he had fucked up. I do not believe he can turn it around. He is to used to the lazy life….. but I would be more than happy to be proven wrong. The ball is now in his court.

  41. WengerEagle


    Just taken aback by how fucking slow he looks, don’t remember him looking that chunky for Dortmund.

    Emery has his work cut out, Chelsea decimated us for large spells. The playing out from the back high-line experiment is an absolute abomination and needs to be aborted immediately.

  42. WengerEagle

    Spot on about Ozul too CA, guy is a absolute chancer. Impotent little worm of a player against anybody with a pulse, his wages make us look like a laughing stock.

  43. Nelson

    What worries me more is not how Ozil plays but Emery’s defensive tactics. First of all, we have Sokratis, who is extremely slow. He then deploys a high defensive line.
    He also talks about organization, but we have Bellerín chasing someone in midfield and opened up his side completely. If Emery doesn’t improve his defensive tactics and organization, we’ll give up lots of cheap goals with or without Ozil in the team.

  44. Thorough

    Arsenal fans are sooooooo dim! We can’t bench Ozil because he’s on 350 grand a week. What’s next? We can’t bench Guendozi because he’s on low wages. Against top 6, against midtable teams, against relegation fodder, bench the idiat. Let him play 5 minutes when we’re coasting in league matches and see if he won’t go to turkey by the summer.

  45. Thorough

    And Emry had better stopped repeating Wenger’s misstakes, no midfielders shoehorned into the team in attack, no trying to play favorites into form when there’s a readymade alternative.

  46. Thorough

    And because of the frailty of our defense we’ve got to seriously consider 3-5-2. Or at least a 4-2-1-3.
    I’ll go for the following for a 3-5-2:
    Papa Mavro Mustafi
    Licht Monreal/Welbeck
    Torreira Guendozi
    Laca Auba

    for a 4-2-3-1 I’ll go:
    Licht Mavro Papa/Mustafi Montreal
    Torreira Guendozi
    Welbeck Mkhi Auba

    Change things around coachie! Jettison underachievers. Make the team all yours.

  47. Guns of Hackney

    Emery has been picked to continue wengers legacy.

    The players aren’t good enough.

    The club ownership are happy with the way things are going.

    Three things that tell you Arsenal FC are and will remain an upper mid table club.

  48. Pierrei

    Over the next ten games or so we will have a better idea if Emery has what it takes or not.

    Easier league games and europa league ties will give him ample time to refine his formation and system.

    Maybe he will start aubamayang and lacazette.. Maybe he will get the team playing with some composure at the back and in midfield… Maybe he will try the new keeper.

    I can’t help thinking that the player we are missing is nzonzi as our midfield is still way too open and is not offering the defence protection.
    We needed a holding midfielder to just sit in front of the back 4 to give us an element of control in games.. Hopefully torriera is that player but we haven’t really addressed the issue…Maybe Emery would have bought nzonzi but was told he was too expensive.

    Anyway, at least we showed we can create good chances, we opened up chelsea with ease at times but was wasteful in front of goal.

    The officials were ok up until the 80th minute and then atkinson decided to influence the game with 2 dreadful decisions when we won the ball twice in midfield from kosavic and hazzard and he gave what he knew were not free kicks as he was a few yards from both incidents . Both times we would have been attacking the chelsea back 4..

  49. Guns of Hackney

    PEA and Lacazette aren’t good enough.

    Arsenal need an absolutely massive financial input to get back into the top four. Period.

    Look around the club and objectively try and find “the future” from within. Arsenal have nothing internally that can solve the problem, therefore it has to come from outside. Arsenal do not have the CL so to attract the better players, one has to offer enourmous wages. Which we can’t do.

    This would have been avoided if more people stood up when only a handful were Wenger Out. But no.

    You supported Wenger for too long and this is the result. You have got the club you deserve and can’t blame anyone else for your apathy.

  50. Guns of Hackney

    Emery gave Xhaka a new contract.
    Emery still plays Cech as no.1.
    Emery thinks Ozil has a future.

    Just three reasons why Unai is a clown.

  51. Pierre

    You are right to say we need a massive investment but we have needed a massive investment to compete since chelsea and their unlimited funds came on the scene.

    It is no coincidence that since chelsea first won the league in 2005 that apart from one freak season from leicester only the teams with a massive investment, united, city and chelsea, have won the title.

    All the rest of us are competing with one armed tied behind our backs and if you think it is bad now then think again, it could get a whole lot worse with lower teams throwing big money at it to gain success.

    I have said previously that the last 5 years, trophy wise, will go down as one of the most successful periods in Arsenal’s history and it will.

    Let’s hope Emery is a miracle worker because it is guaranteed that he won’t be able to compete for the top players in world football in the transfer market which is no different to the last 60 years… So get in the real world.

    George Graham and Arsene Wenger worked miracles to gain the success they had as did Bertie Mee….

    These days it is even harder to compete Against the bottomless pit of money that these clubs have.

  52. Guns of Hackney


    Agreed. It’s strange that anyone thinks it can be done without serious cash. Really strange.

    It wasn’t that long ago that City were in the fourth division. The fourth! Now they are being called the greatest team in the premiership. Likewise, Chelsea were perennial under achievers who Arsenal regularly took six points off every season.

    It really bothers me that people are so blind. Everton will be the next superclub if Usmanov does invest heavily.

    Within two seasons, Arsenal will probably hover around 8/9 in the league.

  53. Pierre

    Emery is not a clown.. He is just the wrong person for the job at this particular time.

    Someone should have asked themselves when appointing Emery, what do we need to make this work.. He wants to play a completely different style of football but we do not have the right players to make it work and insufficient funds.

    Alarm bells should have been ringing and they should have taken a step back and altered their approach when hiring the new manager.

    Emery looks a worried man on the touchline and rightly so.
    Unless he can find a way to integrate his most influential players into the team then he is fucked.

  54. Pierre

    Wenger’s success at the club in his first 8 years built up the expectation at the club and as Thierry Henry has said, we missed the opportunity to capitalise on the invincibles success.. Any player in the world Would have come to arsenal back then.

    Wenger got the blame but was it a case of the owner not being ambitious enough… Its looking that way now.

  55. Un na naai


    DissenterAugust 18, 2018 18:31:46
    “We have a big 45 coming up with literally the worst arsenal side since Brice Rioch”That’s nonsense along with your Trump babble
    Where were you when we had Chamakh leading the line with Almunia in goal.


    Oh. What? You mean when we had RvP and cesc and Koscielny and nasri and arshavin and hleb and Walcott and Wilshere were at their best and full of promise?
    And when almunia was in goal?
    When we had Campbell and Henry and flamini and adebayor and RvP and cesc and rosicky

    These were sides that were beating Barcelona and Milan and Real Madrid and juventus. These were sides with identity and purpose. These sides played the best football I’ve ever seen from an arsenal side, better than the invincibles. Not as good. But played better football.

    Those sides finished 4th, 3rd and second in an oil money era with a manu side containing scholes Rooney Ronaldo tevez and Ferdinand
    Please please please don’t tell me this arsenal side could even lace their boots you fucking arse licking little creep.

  56. gonsterous


    Someone should have asked themselves when appointing Emery, what do we need to make this work.. He wants to play a completely different style of football but we do not have the right players to make it work and insufficient funds.

    apart from the high line which seems suicidal at the moment, his approach isn’t some thing the players can’t learn. He wanted them to get to the touchline and then cut back, which they did numerous times. If emery had gotten the winger he wanted, we could have had a very good team.

    I thought yesterday’s game showed a lot of positives. If auba, mhiki and iwobi had taken their chances, we would have comfortably won. He shouldn’t press the better teams high up the field. Get more compact but against lesser teams I can see us having no problems blowing them away.

  57. gambon

    .”Arsenal do not have the CL so to attract the better players, one has to offer enourmous wages. Which we can’t do.”

    Come on.

    This is completely wrong. We have the second highest paid player in the PL.

    The wages Auba, Mykhi, Lacazette earn put them in the top tier of PL earners.

    The financial outlay hasn’t been the issue in recent years….the quality of recruitment has.

  58. Jeff

    I think that the pain of the defeat is getting the better of many of you here – lashing out at players and venting like someone cut you up on a roundabout. This will take time. Whilst Wenger was the manager, he took most of the flak when we lost games (and I include myself as one of his biggest critics) but we also knew that after the major surgery of removing Wenger we were never going to get up off the theatre table and run a marathon. The bigger the problem, the longer the recovery.

    I don’t expect us to be a force again unless and until at least there has been a turnover of at say 70% of the squad Emery inherited. But that will take a few windows and a willingness by the club to spend big in every area of the pitch. We are in desperate need of around 4 or 5 of the best players money can buy. Even if you got rid of Ozil today (who seems to be the bane of all your pain), do you really think it’s going to make much of a difference to our fortunes as things currently stand? No of course it won’t. We need a major overhaul and it may take 2 or even 3 seasons to achieve it and I would advise you all to prepare for that and accept it.

  59. Ishola70

    On that first goal conceded yesterday obviously Bellerin didn’t have a clue what he was doing but also Big Papa Sokratis was poor as well.

    After Bellerin left the team in the lurch with his brainless positional play from then on Pedro should have been picked up by Sokratis. He was in his area. Sokratis didn’t react at all and was painfully off the pace watching on.

  60. Un na naai

    Pierre Guns

    It will take a lot longer than ten games to discover wether emery can take us in the right direction. Look how long it took for Klopps ideas to really start sinking in at Liverpool
    Last year they were champions league finalists and very unfortunate to lose to a lucky real side that night
    We have a rot at arsenal and it will take a long time to reverse the culture Wenger cultivated throughout the club
    A culture of complacency and laxity.
    It’s going to take longer than 10 games lads.
    And this is from a man who adored the old Wenger. We have to be honest and we have to give emery time. We have such a pissy lot of fans these days though so I imagine we will have the knives out quickly if we don’t see big improvements immediately

  61. Guns of Hackney


    I suppose my caveat should have been “can’t offer massive wages because a goggle eyed waster is stealing a living from the club”.

  62. Guns of Hackney


    I haven’t given Emery 10 games. My decision was made after the recruitment drive in the summer. Clearly Unai didn’t really have a plan…that hasn’t changed.

    You have to ask yourself this. Did Emery actually believe this pile of dogshit was the team he wanted to take into his debut season?

    The answer is yes he did. He recruited them.

    Sorry, but Unai IS a clown.

  63. Ishola70

    Barkley’s chance after Chelsea scored their first goal.

    Kante ran off Sokratis with ease. The big fella left standing again caught out.

  64. Ishola70

    First 15 minutes of both the Man City match and the Chelsea game yesterday saw Arsenal struggling badly.

    Emery has to work on getting this team straight on kick-off.

  65. Guns of Hackney

    I can’t wait until we get Maldini…sorry Koscielny back in the squad. Ruptured ligaments and all.


    The age of our “best” and “strongest” defence.

    This is why the recruitment drive from Emery was bizarre at best, maniacal at worst.

    I’m surprised Salomon Kalou wasn’t hired. That would have been the ultimate punchline.

  66. R.S.P.C.Arsenal


    Bit harsh…

    This squad is far worse than we thought, it has taken another manager coming in to show what we don’t have,

    Remember there is a recruitment team that brings in players…

    I think he realises that certain players have to,be omitted.

    He says words of encouragement but the squad did an does stink.

  67. Guns of Hackney

    Remember this moment. When I and only a handful of others called for Wenger out…there was abuse and ridicule. “Plastic fan” “glory hunter” etc etc. Well, our position was fully justified.

    Now we have Emery. This guy isn’t and wasn’t the right guy. Arsenal hired him because he wouldn’t make waves. A clone.

    So. Emery. Fucking. Out.

  68. gonsterous


    you are acting like emery had 200m to do a ‘re build job. he had 70m to sort the team out. 70m will buy you 1 WC player. You can take your pick from the limited players that moved this summer. Emerys approach has been more of, let’s see what I currently have cause the club has given him a certain amount of time before he it’s decided if he’s the man to go forward. If the board had your thinking we would be changing managers faster than Chelsea…

  69. Ishola70

    Both central defenders were poor for the second goal conceded.

    Even though Mustafi was the one beaten by Morata Sokratis was nowhere running on treacle.

  70. gonsterous

    Remember this moment. When I and only a handful of others called for Wenger out…there was abuse and ridicule. “Plastic fan” “glory hunter” etc etc. Well, our position was fully justified.

    lol so it’s a race now to see who’s the first guy to yell emery out? so that when he goes, you can stand up and say, yup it was I, I called it out first.. pathetic…

  71. Guns of Hackney


    Based on Emerys recruitment, I wouldn’t give him petrol money, let alone £200m.

    I’m sticking to my principles and judgment. Emery isn’t the man to rebuild Arsenal.

  72. Un na naai

    Guns. Then you clearly can’t grasp the sport of football properly. This isn’t fifa guns. This is real life sport.
    He signed 5 players
    Gk, 2 defenders, 2 def mf
    Exactly what everyone said we needed before Wenger left
    You think the club was going to just start throwing £200m around once Wenger left? With Stan buying up the rest of the club this summer you think he was going to break the bank? And for who? Who exactly do you think is going to join us guns?
    The days of us pulling the ozils and the Sanchezes and Aubameyangs are over. We now have to sign players under the radar and develop them

    You blame emery for all of this? You think not signing the players you wanted this summer makes him a clown? Wake up. You’re coming across as a childish brat who can’t have his own way. Typical fucking millennial

  73. gambon

    One positive from the first 2 games is Matteo Guendouzi.

    Bit early to say, but looks like he could become world class.

    The through ball for Bellerin, the defensive workrate, he has it all.

    Only 2 games in, but currently has the most Tackles & Interceptions of any midfielder in the Premier League (8 tackles, 8 interceptions)

  74. gonsterous

    emerys recruitments ? I thought it was a known fact that sven was behind this. or is emery to blame for Socrates and sven gets the praise of recruiting the 19 year old girl (I can’t seem to ever remember his name, gwen some thing )

  75. Un na naai


    We were better than chelsea yesterday. They were fucking lucky to escape with anything let alone a win. City hardly destroyed us. We had our chances in that game too.
    Had Aubameyang been anywhere near decent form I think we may have 4 points on the table now. Won’t be long before he’s dropped at this rate. He looks shockingly off the pace at the moment. I’d be looking at personel over tactics and I think it’s no coincidence we lost the game once Ramsey came on. Can’t stand that mug. Can’t wait til he’s gone.

  76. Un na naai

    Guns of HackneyAugust 19, 2018 09:04:12
    GambonAgreed. But we all know that in 18 months he’ll go to City, Barca or Real for £50m.

    Maybe it’s living in hackney……cheer up butter cup
    Could be worse.

  77. Guns of Hackney


    Don’t patronise me. I don’t play computer games.

    Maybe I am just faster at seeing things going wrong than you are.


    So Sven is just recruiting for the sake of it? Emery has no say? Is that what you’re implying.

    Unai is out of his depth. Fact. I don’t need six months to realise this.

  78. gambon

    Sven is responsible for recruitment, but Emery still gets a say.

    For example, i dont earn £6m pa as the manager of Arsenal but I could tell we needed a much higher calibre of CB to partner Sokratis (Shouldve sold Mustafi & Chambers to fund it)

    Its clear we needed a much better CM in there than Xhaka or Elneny

    Its clear we desperately needed wide players.

    Emery is allowed to say what he needs.

    Im worried he has told the board what they want to hear to secure a £6m pa job.

  79. Guns of Hackney


    1. I don’t live in Hackney anymore.
    2. “We were better than Chelsea”.

    Remind me who won the match?

    You do realise that it is the result that matters, not the other bit.

  80. R.S.P.C.Arsenal


    Your acting like a spoilt middle tomupper class boy who is demanding he gets his way…

    Relax old chap relax

  81. Pierre

    “We were better than chelsea yesterday”

    We created the better chances in a 15 minute spell in the first half but overall we were not the better team.

    I was disappointed with our 2nd half performance, we didnt push on after finishing the first half so impressively.

    Chelsea were the better team in the 2nd half Imo.

  82. Jeff

    In the second half we came out in a dilemma. We weren’t sure whether we should go for the win or go for the point. In the end it was six of one and half a dozen of the other. And you can’t really afford to do that in football. We need to be a little more assertive and decisive in future games.

  83. Countryboy

    Thoughts on the game for Emery
    1. Tactical Flexibility: Pass mark in changing personnel. Not too sure about in-game tactics though. Ramsey should have come on as a CM in a 433 to neutralize Chelsea overloading the midfield.

    Iwobi choice a masterstroke. In the big games where defensive solidity is required, Montreal-Iwobi partnership is the way to go. Also offered enough options if we had been more clinical from the box.

    Xhakas choice was offensively a disaster. Torreira should have started. It really was a waste of a game changing substitution. I mean why start a player everyone and his mother was going to struggle.

    It must be noted though that when Torreira came on, we started to defend deeper. I noticed in the WC that he was usually very close to the back four. That I think attracted more pressure and allowed Chelsea to dominate. This should have made Emery play Ramsey as a CM in a 433 to partner Guendouzi ahead of Torreira.

    Bellerin: While the left wing was our stronger side, our right was appalling. Bellerin was a winger converted to a right back and supported by an aging Mikhi. This was totally unbalanced and Emery should have noted that. I thought we were breaking away from Wengers penchant for not trying to neutralize the opponent. Think about it, if Hazard had started we could have been well beaten in the first half with he and Alonso doubling down on Bellerin and Mikhi. So I am going to bite the bullet and say our best option is to play Welbeck ahead of Bellerin in the big games.

    OZIL AND MIKHI should never play together in the big games. It’s like playing with nine and half men. Ozil offers nothing upfront and nothing defensively. So what is the point of him being in the team. Mikhi at least will score goals even though he won’t contribute much defensively. As such in the big games, he should start Mikhi as CAM and hook him later for Ramsey with a change to 433 with Ramsey as CM.

    Laca: I have no issues with him coming off the bench in the big games but I feel if he starts ahead of Auba in such games, Auba will benefit from having to deal with tiring defenders at the latter part of the game. But in the other games, we have to figure out how to unleash them together.
    Just a thought.

  84. gonsterous


    how much say does emery have is the main question. does he have the final say ? I don’t think so, I don’t think he had any say about matteo or torreira. The fact that we went for an ex Dortmund player says it all when it comes to sokrates. Emery was clear about wanting a winger, we didn’t get one. But it’s the environment he chose to work in. You don’t play someone like sven millions and then tell him to go fk himself when he recommends a has been defender…

  85. gonsterous

    country boy

    I agree that we were pegged back when torreira came on. As bad as xhaka was, his cross balls across field to our fullback stretched Chelsea and gave us an attacking outlet from the flanks…

  86. Un na naai

    Pierre & guns

    We were better than Chelsea
    Had our forwards taken the sitters they were presented with then we would have won those points
    Emery cannot rub onto the pitch and covert them but it’s obviously his game plan (with the amount of cutbacks we made) that created those openings and our supposedly top forwards couldn’t hit the target from 8 yards with open goals.

    Regarding signings. Tell me guns, who were we meant to sign? Realistically. Which centre half would have joined arsenal and made us better

  87. useroz

    Licht Mustafi Sokratis Monreal

    This back 5 would win us the “OLD My God” trophy ffs. Sad thing is, that appears the best 5 atm.

    A shame we haven’t seen Leno plays in the PL so don’t know if he’s better.

  88. Dissenter

    Guns of Hackney
    So you’ve given up on Emery already two tough games against teams that finished well above us last season?
    Do you think Arteta would hav had a better start had he been appointed?
    You think he would have beaten City at home or Chelsea away?

  89. Terraloon

    Didn’t get back from the game till 10.00pm and if possible I always like to see the TV coverage to see what I missed seeing it live
    I’ve not read all the comments but it’s abundantly clear that there is a massive amount of work to be done just to maintain a sixth place Finnish
    Cech is like a rabbit caught in headlights. Chelsea wanted him to play the ball out to either Bellerin or Monreal and once that happened the full backs were hunted down.
    Chelsea by virtue of Hazard not starting we’re seriously under strength they aren’t set up to defend their game now is all about quick ball and energy
    Sari hasn’t had the time with his major hitters that Unai has had with Arsenal’s supposed big hitters but there is no way that Arsenal back four will keep clean sheets. If playing with a high line is how it’s going to be then the likes of Vardy will think Christmas has come early.
    Ozil is a spent force . I suspect there may be glimpses of his ability as the season continues but for me he neither has the pace or the desire to put the sort of shift that Emery needs from him.
    It looks highly unlikely that PEA and Lacazette will start together and whilst PEA is normally a clinical finisher he didn’t show that yesterday. The thing that annoys me about him is the number of times he gets caught offside.
    The first 30 minutes were key. Chelsea moved not just the ball from side to side
    they shifted the whole Arsenal team and their energy levels for me dropped as the game progressed
    The 15 minute spell at the end of the first half should have been the turning point but when half time came for one reason or another for me a different Arsenal lined up.
    Without Bellerin and Monreal getting forward , or being allowed to get forward, there isn’t enough creativity to really damage but what struck me is that there is clear evidence that whilst Torreira can snap into a tackle his concentration seemed to wander , much like Bellerin, and if they both are playing on the right that is an almost open gateway through and for me that’s how Chelsea’s 3rd came about
    A lot more will become apparent against WHU . Bear in mind that no one in last seasons top 4 lost more than 7 games.

  90. Alex Cutter

    “I’m sticking to my principles and judgment.”

    Like when you wrote this yesterday:

    “But I am retiring from Le Grove.”