Pundits and explayers thrust forward with Emery attacks

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Big thanks to James for that cracking post about the Arsenal performance team. Very insightful, then he went and ruined it with his Xhaka fanboying. Jokes aside, do check out the post, suuuuper interesting. <LINK> Also, big thanks to Arsenal for inviting us in. It’s always a risk with muppet bloggers, but we appreciate the insight and the hard work going on to make our club great again.

Tony Adams and Jens Lehmann didn’t take long to sink their teeth into the Arsenal’s new manager. This is one of our greatest captains getting frank about the new regime.

“I don’t know what he has been doing for the last five or six weeks,”

“He has rotated all his players and given them all a game basically and they’ve got some good results but it’s pre-season.

“From minute one, I would’ve picked my own goalkeeper, my back four and put the two lads in that I want to screen those, and get a firm base that’s been missing for the last ten years.”

“You’ve had six weeks of pre-season – go on, get on with it.”

Come on Tone, give it a rest, he’s only just landed and he took a spanking from the most expensively assembled team in England. 14 years of decline cannot be solved in 10 minutes.

Big Jens Lehmann, bitter from being shunted out of the club this summer went for a stealthy gut punch as well.

‘I don’t consider it a re-build, the new manager has taken over a club in almost a perfect environment,””The players have a good attitude. I expected a little more on Saturday, they had a big change, and after 22 years it’s different if something is new, of course”Perfect environment? Yeah, for a holiday. A cruise type of holiday. Amirite?I know full well Jens knows what a shit-tip of flatulence Arsenal had become under Wenger, so he’s being very cheeky there. He’s rightfully pissed he was pushed out without a chance. He also had thoughts on the keeping issues, particularly the feet issues Cech has suffered.

“I was a bit surprised that every time he tried to play out, which is not possible, nobody can dictate to you when to play out. He is very intelligent so he knows when to play out and when not to.

“Petr has played hundreds of games and I think sometimes he would have kicked it long before, now he is under pressure this year. The game dictates what to do and not a certain style you have to play.

“Even at the age of 36 you can practice and improve, but it’s the amount of passes you have to do.

“Also, sometimes it is better to not to do what the coaches ask because at that moment you understand the game better than anybody else.”

Does anyone else get the sense that Emery is being teed up for a massive slap down when things go wrong? The press don’t rate him, the explayers aren’t fancying him, and it feels a little like people want it to go a bit David Moyes. Unfair. I find it especially uncomfortable when the barbs come from people who haven’t had an opinion for 10 years.

Also, isn’t it sad how our media react like they just found a foreign burglar in their house when a coach they have little knowledge of lands. Open your minds chaps, admit you never watched Sevilla and be real about the fact you didn’t buy BT Sports for the PSG games over the last two years.

I thought this was an excellent summary of the work Ramsey and the team overall did utilising the press against one of the most intense teams in world football. What I found particularly interesting is how the effectiveness of Aaron Ramsey was greatly limited when he’s put in a system where he has a very specific role to undertake. Hopefully, he’ll be more potent against lesser teams, but it is one of the challenges Emery faces… how does he extract the best-attacking instincts of this team without sacrificing the teams’ defensive solidity.

It’s also fun to see people making comps of Arsenal. We haven’t done anything of interest over the last ten years to merit that sort of treatment.

There’s been some chatter about fans clubbing together to block the Stan K takeover so we can land another AGM. I can appreciate the endeavor, but like a few others out there, I think it’s a waste of time. Firstly, let’s not pretend the fans have had any real power with the club. Ivan G has been the master of saying absolutely nothing for an hour for years. I’ve spent enough time at those AGMs to know they don’t give a fuck about us, and it’s actually a challenge for the board to be professional enough not to say mean things to fans. Fan involvement is just a PR stunt. I’m not sure antagonising the new owner is the way forward…

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Cc,

I would be more inclined to see Martinez back up Leno if we’re going the sweeper keeper route.I just think the team’s been neglected for so long that it could be awhile before we get back to the level we were a few years ago, and that wasn’t good enough back then.

Michael24

Up 4 grabs now.

Who really gives a shite what the pundits say?

Our own legends like Ian Wright, Nigel Winterburn, Martin Keown, David Seaman, Alan Smith, Ray Parlour, Perry Groves have all acted with their own self interests at heart over these past ten years.

Hospitality benefits and fringe benefits can work wonders.

Lee Dixon tends to be more forceful and direct, which I like, whilst Paul Merson just says it as it is.

Then we have Stewart Robson.

champagne charlie

up4

Never seen anything with Martinez that tells me he could even perform as number 2 for us. Ospina isn’t best suited, but at least he’s got experience and proven ability to some extent.

Michael24

Ian Wright had a severe case of ADHD when it came to Arsenal.

No offense intended to those of you who may suffer from this behavioural disorder.

PessimisticPat

Michael

Regarding merson he says it as he sees it, not as it is. There is a big difference. Huge when you look at some of the nonsense he spouts

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Michael,

No one wants to see our team criticized, I’m all for it, if it’s justified, but one game in!
Come on, it’s the media kicking arsenal and its fans to try and generate headlines.

It still pisses me off.

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Cc that’s the point with Martinez if he never gets a chance we will never know.
Ospina has had some good games for us and a lot of bad ones. We know he isn’t number one material, if Martinez doesn’t get a shot then he should be moved on.

Michael24

Pessimisticpat

You’re right.

Makes me laugh though.

Michael24

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What pisses me off even more is the so called fans jumping on the bandwagon.

The same fans who sat back, day in day out for ten years, watching our club sink slowly into the abyss.

To be honest, even though we have a few of them on here, their opinions and perspectives are rather hollow and insignificant.

Can’t take them seriously.

Michael24

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You know, the ones who feel we should be giving Wenger our utmost respect and also feel that that “big Per” was an excellent defender and leader.

Lol!!

Redtruth

It’s been downhill ever since Ospina was dropped from the team.

Up 4 grabs now

When you hear fans coming out of the ground on Sunday saying Wenger wouldn’t have lost that game you know there’s no helping some people.

If we can shift some more dead wood abroad in the next fortnight, we can see where we are In January for a few more recruits.
Wingers, another centreback, as I can’t see koscielny coming back brand new, and probably a left back to long-term replace monreal.
What a bloody mess!

Kwame

Can’t understand why people are complaining contracts of some players have been extended. When a player has a few years to the end of his contract the wisest thing is for you to tie him up so he could be sold for at least something in future. Nobody made an offer for Iwobi, Welbeck, El-Neny et al. On this same platform I’m hearing people whining about having let Alexis, Ozil, Ramsey run out their contracts to the very last year. The real problem is the wages that they are earning at Arsenal making it difficult to move them on. Let’s… Read more »

Confidentgoner

Many teams will give City tough games this season. CP, last season nearly beat them. Pool, United beat them. Shutting down their wing overloads, pressing and counter attacking at pace will beat City. We must all realize that Emery played with the wrong personnel. No way Mikki and Ozil will patrol the wings to achieve a stifling of City wing overload. Wellbeck and Nelson are best for those roles. Emery may be his own worst enemy. Playing Xhaka, not starting Lucas and Leno! What was he thinking! So, I beg to differ, he fucked up and needs now to win… Read more »

Pierre

Confident goner Good job u said that as I would have been slaughtered for daring to say it as it is. As I look through the comments it appears that most on here are in agreement that the manager messed it up big time and are hoping, like me, that he rectifies the glaring mistakes that were made. City, I believe, were there for the taking on sunday if we had been set up properly with the correct personnel, formation and tactics and this is not being wise after the event as it was obvious we couldn’t afford to fanny… Read more »

Pierre

Confident goner
How confident are you now after the result at the weekend

Antidote

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Antidote

Let’s just let things work themselves out and update our songs.

We’ve got Ozil, Mesut Ozil
I just don’t think you understand
He met with Ergodan
And now he’s not German
We’ve got Mesut Ozil

gambon

Charlie Leno played the confed cup for Germany….he’s now 4th choice. That’s the definition of falling off the radar. He was £22m and teams are preferring to pay £65-70m for other keepers. Both of these teams have proven far better than Arsenal in the transfer market in the last few years. Obviously I know it’s your duty to come on here and cheerlead every single player then scratch your head when we finish 6th on 63 points but anyone with half a brain would be a little sceptical if Leno as a ling term solution with the quality of keepers… Read more »

gambon

Lol

Man City….the best team in PL history, that have won 33 of their last 39 games were “there for the taking” apparently.

Dissenter

I remember vividly what Pierre was saying when City beat us 3-0 twice over three ays in the spring.
I recall he wasn’t moaning like he is now, Back then he was neck deep in running interference for Wenger.
The new manager is going to make mistakes because he’s only had the squad for 6 weeks and Sunday’s was his first competitive game in England. He had to give the established big name players a change to swim or sink.

Cesc Appeal

Dissenter I agree. It would be difficult for Emery to just drop people like Xhaka, Ozil, Mkhitaryan etc right away. Can you imagine some fans if we had lost after he did that? I’m just keeping my fingers crossed he has the balls to drop them if they keep under performing, we all know how it use to be and that is part of the reason we’re in this mess. This is going to be a longer and more difficult task than I thought when Emery took over, the squad is in a worse state than it seemed and it… Read more »

Dissenter

gambon
Most of the confed cup didn’t play in the world cup.
Have a look at the players that were picked ahead of Leno for the world cup, shall you.
Why don’t we wire another 40-50 million to Leverkursen to assuage your feelings about the Leno fee?
You don’t think we may have just caught a lucky break with the transfer. Had we not triggered the clause in Leno’s contract it may have gone up to match the market.
I blame Emery for creating this cloud over Leno’s head though. Not playing his has caused all this negative talk.

Dissenter

***Most of the confed cup players for Germany didn’t play in the world cup.
The will probably have gone further than the team that was picked.

Pierre

No De Bruyne, no silva, no company, no otamendi, no sane….

Half of their first choice team not in the starting line up…

Walker, stones and sterling only just back from the world cup.. good time to play them I would say.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Sort of agree the press are jabbing hi for a big KO…

Comparing to moyes is ludicrous as moyes ha£ won fuck all…

Give him a chance

An you Pierre

I expect better
I thought you would get behind him…or is wenger still close to your heart…

Pierre

Dissenter “The new manager is going to make mistakes because he’s only had the squad for 6 weeks and Sunday’s was his first competitive game in England. He had to give the established big name players a change to swim or sink.” So I presume you was happy with the elementary mistakes that were made in selections, formation and tactics. If I had been at the club for 6 minutes I would have known not to fanny about at the back with cech in goal, not to play with Ramsey up front, not to have ozil and mhkitaryan defending in… Read more »

gambon

Dissenter

How many times in one day are you gonna say “maybe we should send them £40m more” ?

I don’t care how much we spend on a player….I just don’t think Leno is a great keeper.

Ok with you?

gambon

Rspc

There are a number on here who are still so hurt by Wenger being sacked that they can’t bring themselves to back Emery.

Cesc Appeal

Pierre

That is quite a turnaround.

You still deflected and defended Wenger after years of making repetitive errors on and off the field.

You’re laying the boot into Emery like you never did Wenger after 90 minutes of football.

Can you now then admit you were bias and far from objective in your appraisals of Wenger?

Having gone about the moaning and groaning on here for years you are one of the most negative voices today.

Pierre

Rspca
I am 100% behind Emery but that was a tactical shambles which ever way you look at it…I expect changes or we are in for another day of head shaking.

Dissenter

Pierre
‘So I presume you was happy with the elementary mistakes that were made in selections, formation and tactics.”

Nope
I’m not happy with the mistakes but they are teething errors.
He can’t start his first game by benching the high earning “stars” on the team. Either way we would have last that game but the defeat can serve a bigger purpose i.e. to show that certain players aren’t up to it.

Dissenter

Pierre
Sharpen your Emery daggers some more because we are going to lose to Chelsea.
They have better players who have won two league title s in the last 4 seasons . They will bale out Sarri when push comes to shove.

Dissenter

gambon
Would you rate Kepa is he had been bought for the pre-release clause fee of 17 million that Madrid almost signed him for?
Just asking…and I do understand you don’t quite fancy Leno.

Pierre

Nothing to do with him benching anyone, more about the tactics and formation though he could easily have played Lichsteiner, torriera and lacazette.

gambon

Not to mention Emery only had 4 x 90 minute games against good teams to implement his ideas.

This was the first competitive game he’s played with Arsenal.

The idea that he was going to solve 9 years of poor recruitment, tactical naivety and managerial neglect in 4 friendlies is ludicrous.

Even from that 90 minutes I would bet we will see notable improvement from last year.

nepGunner

“Lol
Man City….the best team in PL history, that have won 33 of their last 39 games were “there for the taking” apparently.”

This.

I almost choked. Loving this AKB meltdown (it it ain’t a troll laying bait.. In which case i fell hook, line, & sinker)

If Wenger was in charge vs City last Sunday, we would have “taken” city.. Yea right.

Dissenter

Pierre Emery may have taken a pragmatic view of the game on Sunday and felt that it was better to start conditioning the team to his tactical methods that to seek a short term gain. He needs to get them to understand when he is seeking and deviating from his approach would have confused the team more. Had he deviated from his long term goals and we still lost then he won’t have learned much about how his team can play or react to a loss. I just think either way, city would have beaten us. The would have beaten… Read more »

NW9 gooner

Pierre you are being naive here. You expected us to beat MC in Emery’s first match after being with the team for a few days? Even without some first teamers the replacements are as good as them. That is the difference between them and other teams . Liverpool has addressed this problem and have now a good squad. Just because Emery did not start the players you wanted , he is shit now .

Marko

I am 100% behind Emery but that was a tactical shambles which ever way you look at it So last two times we played and got hammered by City we had Ozil and Mhiki/Iwobi on the wings and had Ramsey playing in midfield and though it may say 4-3-3 it wasn’t because Ramsey never really played in a 4-3-3 it’s a 4-2-3-1. So basically the personnel and the formation has been the same. Emery perhaps was mistaken for playing the same formation but it is his preferred formation and the personnel was obviously wrong because let’s be honest Ozil and… Read more »

Redtruth

Pierre
“Did Emery really play ramsey as our main striker today when he had lacazette fit and ready or was it just a bad dream…”
PierreAugust 12, 2018 19:54:59
“Did Emery really start with bellerin and AMN as full backs when he had Lichsteiner fit and ready or was it a bad dream.”
PierreAugust 12, 2018 19:57:06
“Did Emery really start with Xhaka as our holding midfielder when he had Torreira fit and ready or was it just a bad dream.”

All hindsight guff ……….lol

NW9 gooner

Give Emery some time- I am confident we will come good . Even Ozil who has been criticised tracked back and was on a few occasions tracking back to our penalty area defending. Just give it a few more matches and it will come good.

leon

I think that Emery is going to give every member of the squad a chance to prove themselves , they all have clean slate.

Alone + Easy Target

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NW9 gooner

Agreed with Redtruth-,it’s all hindsight now. If Lacazette ‘s shot had gone in just after he had come on we would be having different arguments now

Redtruth

Not a squeak from Pierre before , during or immediately after the game.
Posts 2 hours after the event when it was blindingly obvious mistakes were made ….
Some foresight this clown has…lol

Marko

Thomas Partey has got to be one of the most improved midfielders in the last couple years. He’s super

leon

Personally I think there certain players that won’t be able to adapt to Emery’s style of football. I feel it’s a system that requires allot of pace and width and high work rate. In the midfield, you need players who very mobile who can cover allot of ground . Now I am sorry but every time I seen Xhaka that’s one thing he is not. Now I don’t think he is shit player I just don’t think he is suited to the premier. Now hopefully we can get a decent cb in January or the summer because Sokritis was clearly… Read more »

KAY Boss

Pierre, U found no error with Wenger and his consistent neglect of basic things that could have made us greater in his latter days. Yet, suddenly a game and a tactical error from emery and tour stitches are out? Gambon, u may not rate Leno because he didn’t cost a fortune, but in all honesty, do u think Ederson is a quality keeper just because he’s costly? in my opinion, I think we did a smart business by going for Leno. All keepers have a margin of error in them. Gambon, is Kevin Trapp better than Leno just bcos he… Read more »

Sancho Monzorla

Pierre

I like you even less today than that day you came out as an abuser. You are so biased it’s beyond fathom. You tedious flit.

Pierre

Ruth
Wrong

I voiced my concerns before the game about city’s high press and said we should bypass it and look to hit one of our midfielders.

kc

AKBs confirming they were always Arsene fans and not Arsenal fans. Support the club already. Judge Emery in May! You should know that slogan well.

Pierre

Sancho
Is that the best you can do..

nepGunner

These lost sheep. I pity them… Actually, I pity those people more who have to put up with these drama Queens on daily basis in real life.

Redtruth

Pierre

You didn’t voice concerns on player personnel until 2 hours after the game had finished ….woeful foresight…..lol

NW9 gooner

Pierre just give it some time. You just expect things to change overnight. Arsene did wonderfully for us but the last two years was very bad and we have to rectify that

KAY Boss

Marko, I agree with u re Thomas Partey. He should be one of our midfield targets next summer to replace Xhaka/Ramsey, depending who leaves.

Pierre

Kay boss
“Pierre,
U found no error with Wenger and his consistent neglect of basic things that could have made us greater in his latter days.”

Obviously you neglected to read my criticism of Wenger playing ramsey in a 2 man midfield and continuing to play giroud as our main striker and his refusal to buy a quality holding midfielder and a top quality striker.

gambon

I forgot Pierre was an abuser.

Pierre

And his failure to have the team prepared for the start of the season and his signing of sanogo

Pierre

You took your time gambon… See if you can beat me with your knowledge on football instead of having to resort to childish name calling….

nepGunner

Ideally, Unai will assess the players’ caliber within the first 10 games and decide either to set out a team according to his defined way of playing or devise a system that extracts the best out the players. After that it will all boil down to rigorous/consistent trainings, positive performance based man management, and identifying the required changes to fit his vision in the next two TWs.. Which basically is a news to you sheep. I understand the delivery from his first match was not exactly a fairy tale stuff.. But I respect his urge to set out a team… Read more »

Pierre

Ruth
Because as I said, I looked at the team and thought Fair enough if he plays 4-3-3 that could work but he decided to play ramsey up front which lacazette could have done a much better job…

Plus Lichsteiner and torriera were fit

Pierre

Ruth
“You didn’t voice concerns on player personnel until 2 hours after the game had finished ….woeful foresight…..lol”

Actually if you care to check you will see that I voiced my concerns on here during the game, first half I think regarding ramsey

Redtruth

The very same Lacazette who missed a sitter.

NW9 gooner

Marco who is Partey

Sancho Monzorla

Pierre had his foresight circumcised, so he has none to speak of.

And yes you can get foresight circumcised when the entirety of your cognitive function is a tiny dick.

NW9 gooner

Sancho let it be -not necessary to be tetchy- he has his views like you do

Pierre

Ruth
Obviously not going to get an intelligent comment from you so do yourself a favour and start a conversation with sancho and gambon.. They are about your level intellectually

Sancho Monzorla

NW9

It’s mostly banter. He knows I’m harmless.

Pierre on the other hand is a dangerous abuser. Let us not forget.

Pierre

Sancho…..time to Stop I think… You are embarrassing yourself along with gambon.

Michael24

So, should Tottenham be punished for their stadium shambles? Back in October 1990, Arsenal were deducted two points following a mass brawl at Old Trafford ( Utd were deducted one). For not controlling our players, we had points deducted. How heavily should spuds be penalised for not controlling their business? Financial penalties are meaningless, as Spurs will no doubt recoup more than enough from the contractor for not getting the stadium ready on time. The disruption to the league is self explanatory. In this respect the only solution is to punish Spurs where it really hurts, by deducting points. I… Read more »

UTarse

“See if you can beat me with your knowledge on football instead of having to resort to childish name calling….”

So you admit you are childish ?

Pierre

Ufraud
Is that it…

Pierre

Leon
“Personally I think there certain players that won’t be able to adapt to Emery’s style of football.”

Exactly the point I made yesterday.. We brought in a manager who wants to play a certain style of football but we dont have the right players for that style and the owner will not give the manager sufficient funds to build the squad to play that style…

NW9 gooner

So what do we do Pierre

Marko

Pierre you completely ignored my post up top you know the one that showed Wenger doing the same tactics that you criticize Emery for and how you didn’t criticize Wenger for his appalling tactics and record in big games. Just noticed you glossed over that

Marko

For not controlling our players, we had points deducted. How heavily should spuds be penalised for not controlling their business?

Is this a piss take or for real?

Champagne charlie

Gumbo

Yea mate, here I am cheerleading Leno and the like…

Or maybe I simply prefer to see how the players in question turn out this season and let that be the deciding factor on who is or isn’t world class?

Flip flopping bollocks from you as per, one day you’re in on the fairly simple concept that price tag doesn’t equate quality, the next you ignore that reasoning because you don’t rate someone. Quality stuff.

Marko

Charlie gambon’s probably asleep. You’re arguing with yourself

kc

KDB likely out 3 months with that knee injury in practice. As stacked as Citeh are, this is still going hurt. They’ve got Pool, Spuds, and United in that time.

Guns of SF

City is so deep, they will keep on doing what they do.
That is the sign of a team that has the right talent to step in at anytime
Unlike ahem……

gonsterous

I really couldn’t give a rats arse that we lost against city, as long as emery has learnt some thing from it. Not many teams will be at city this season and I assume we won’t beat them in the return fixture too. But some people just need some thing to moan about ( looking at the usuals ). The same fickle minded people that think they know a lot about football cause they follow all the news stories or they talk about it in the pub. Get back to window cleaning and get the pitchforks out when it matters.… Read more »

Unai

NW9 goonerAugust 16, 2018    00:19:02

So what do we do Pierre

Bring back Wenger, obviously.

Black Hei

MIchael24

I say 12 pts, just to be sure we pip them to 4th.

That’s one hell of a lagsana for use on their toilet bowl stadium.

Akkimaniac

Leno playing from the back ☝️

Michael24

Over the past decade or so Arsene Wenger bought in so many players and personnel that were specifically cloned to match and agree with his own philosophies and mindset. The consequences of this have been devastating. Dismantling a comfort zone is not as easy as some seem to think. Emery does not need anyone’s advice or input into what is needed to be done. The guy has been successful at both Sevilla and PSG and knows full well, that so many facets of the coaching structure have been neglected at Arsenal over these past few years. Emery has the job… Read more »

Michael24

Breach

Michael24

Black Hei

Spuds must be penalised.

Money, no.

Points, yes!!

raptora

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