Decision time on Ramsey

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Well, it’s less than a week ’til deadline day slams shut almost 20 days earlier than usual, and there are still a number of items to be resolved.

What the fu*k are we doing with the back 4 would be a pretty pressing one. We’re apparently shipping Calum Chambers out on loan to Fulham, which makes sense if he’s not getting games with us, but I did hope he’d done enough to stay with us this year. His form in the back half of the season was very positive, he’s excellent in a defence that needs confidence on the ball and I really do admire his new beard and hair combo.

Will Emery look to move on Mustafi? Or are we going to stick with Mavrapanos, Mustafi, Sokratis, Koscielny, and roll with 5 options this season? Or will we see movement for a more experienced name like Vida?

As it stands, our group of centre backs looks a little weak, but I guess for the first time in a while we’ll be at the mercy of a system versus the hope that individual talent can pull the players through. The sum of the parts is a theory many average clubs adopt and it works perfectly well. I have to say, I was slightly sad to see Yerry Mina go to Everton for £32m.

Our major headache comes in the shape of Aaron Ramsey. The club need to make moves to shift him, or we need to pray the exec team has a plan up their sleeves. City, Liverpool and Chelsea are all sniffing around, no doubt armed with a deadline day pity bid. I was particularly sad to here Pep G talk of the need for a midfielder. Arteta and Ramsey had a great time together when they were paired back in the day, and it wouldn’t be wild to imagine the two linking up again (in a big fuck you to Ivan for this summers shennanigans).

His agency has been quashing so-called insiders hot takes on the situation on Twitter. I’d imagine they’re keen to make sure the world doesn’t think Aaron is holding the club to ransom… when the reality is that’ll be exactly what they’re doing otherwise he’d have exited by now, or he’d have signed a new deal. I had heard much earlier in the summer from a very good place that his agent was very keen on using the Ozil deal as leverage, the fact anyone at their agency would deny that was top of mind is quite frankly ludicrous.

Sure, there might be a strategy to get Aaron to the last year of his deal, but no one makes money that way, and in the world of football, the only Christmas bonus that matters is this years. Why would you push your injury prone client into seeing out the final year of his deal? It’s hugely risky, especially as the stand out years aren’t exactly plentiful with Aaron. Strike while the iron is hot and build would be my view. They also don’t know Emery, they have no idea how he’d treat a snub because let’s be real, the new Arsenal guys could just sit him on the bench for a year to make a point.

We’ll see though.

I find it amusing that the fans are already in, ‘never liked that slag anyway’ mode. Outside Nacho, he was a star in a shower of shite last season. I don’t quite abide by the weird internet cult he has behind him. When I read people talk about Ramsey’s achievements in the game, it makes me weep a little inside. He’s a solid player who has survived 10 years in an unstructured mess. I think he could be exceptional in a great system, but I don’t think he’s irreplaceable. He’d unlikely be allowed the freedom to be the all-action hero under Emery, so it’ll be interesting to see where he chooses head if he does go.

I kind of hoped he’d stay to be the captain at a club built around his talents… but hey, who can deny a man a change of scenery.

Let’s just hope the club has a decent backup plan. I’d be surprised if his energy and drive could be found with internal promotions.

Finally, a bit of a gripe about TV rights. What the fuck is football doing with all these fragmented TV deals? Community Shield is on ESPN+ (an app), EL is on TNT, NBC has the Prem rights except sometimes you need their shitty Prem pass offering, I don’t even think we get League Cup. I know it’s the same issue in the UK. BT are pulling back, Sky has some games, there’s that new disruptor channel Eleven Sports who have some action. It’s a fucking joke. Even if you’re a cable buyer, you still need to buy bolt-ons. Is it cheaper for anyone?

This fragmentation of TV just pushes people to do things illegally. At times last year, I had to stream illegally for things I’d paid for because the services were shite. It’s unreal.

Just give me a season ticket for the TV. That is all that is needed. Or someone get Reed Hastings on the blower and tell him Netflix should buy the rights and make it real easy. Or Apple now they’re a trillion dollar company.

Anyway, moan over.

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  1. englandsbest

    You never can tell, maybe Stan will ride in on a white to lead the Club to a golden future.

    It’s okay, I am only kidding.

  2. Marko

    All talk? Do you even know who Aliko Dangote is?
    Although that should be taken with a pinch of salt

    So you agree with me.

  3. raptora

    “This is where the son Josh becoming CEO could be beneficial to us going forward”

    Yup. If it happens it would mean that Jr would want his reign to be a successful one so that he can present this to wherever he would want to. Meaning a lot more attention to demand success and not merely existing.

  4. Kayciey

    This Stan Kroenke thing just got my stomach filled with adrenaline. It’s a very sad day for the club and the fans.

  5. Deez_Nutz'92

    raptora- I agree we spent money but there is no way we spent more than Liverpool, City, Utd.
    Albeit we spent more than Chelsea did; but you have to remember, Chelsea had prior to that since 2003/2004 invested heavily into the club whilst we had been neglected.

    I remember PV04 saying we were going to be shopping from lidl with £25m transfer funds way back in 2002 when Liverpool, Chelsea, and Tottenham were outspending us with the signings of Rebrov and Bogarde and co.

    Going by your point of view that AW could not be trusted with signings , I wonder why we have bought Sokratis. Anyone who genuinely watches Bundesliga knows was carried by Hummels, Toprak or Bender/Ginter and even Subotic in previous seasons. Even Kehl played as a centre back sometimes.

    Could we not have bought someone like Morgan or even Tarkowski who may be already acquainted to this league?

    All I am saying is that a year ago these signings would have been mocked by bloggers but because its being made by someone else its ok.

    Ok, Torriera looks like the type of signng we have been missing for awhile, plus he looked good in the WC. But saying that the few times I watched Serie A , (watching Juve , Inter and Napoli , and saw Torriera I thought Praet , Ramirez did a lot of sweeping up around Lucas like Santi did with Coquelin a few years back…

    Lucas reminds me of the type of player Xhaka was when we first sign him in a way until he started getting shown cards because he was strong in his tackle.

    I recall loads of media and Arsenal fans saying Arsene should get Xhaka to calm down.

    Vermalean was the same when we signed him; the referees and the likes of Paul Merson on soccer Saturday made sure that those players lost that edge and then went on to say the team lacked character.

    Lets hope Emery can manage Lucas better…

  6. TR7

    Can’t believe a few on here are cautiously optimistic about Stan taking complete control of Arsenal. Nobody knows what the future holds for AFC but zero accountability and no transparency is never a good thing. Add to that Kroenke’s pathetic track record as an owner, there is a genuine cause for concern.

  7. Receding Hairline

    Although that should be taken with a pinch of salt

    I said this because nothing is his history maps him out as a man who will buy a football club abroad and pump millions into it

    You on the other hand makes it sound like he cannot afford it. So i repeat do you know who Aliko Dangote is ?

  8. Dissenter

    Stan doesnt need to take a cent from Arsenal.
    His US entities are booming because the US economy is in full flight.
    When you consider all the taxation bonanza that Trump has given billionaires like Kroenke, You’ll understand why.

    We are fucked because the sole owner doesn’t give a toss so long as the numbers on his investment tick up.
    He doesn’t even have to come down for that lousy AGM anymore.

  9. Ishola70

    Torreira is nothing like Xjaka.

    Ridiculous comparison.

    And not only the way they play. In character as well.

    Xjaka was never strong in the tackle. He was getting punished for putting in shit tackles.

  10. Dissenter

    gambon talking about Arsenal spending £70 million on defensive players like it’s a big deal.
    Liverpoool can afford to spend more than that on ONE defensive player.

  11. alexanderhenry

    Cesc

    ‘a lot of these people were the same ones telling us spending does not guarantee success, all about values and we shouldn’t spend massively in the transfer market in defence of Wenger when he made his yearly one or two additions, no guarantee of success, hard to find better than what we have, work with what we have statements.’

    I haven’t .noticed many on here. They’re all on untold.
    I have always wanted arsenal to spend more and I absolutely loathe arsenal’s so called ‘values’.
    They’re not the fans’ ‘values’. that’s for sure They’re Stan’s values and the values of the previous board members who sold their shares to him.

  12. Ishola70

    TR7
    “Can’t believe a few on here are cautiously optimistic about Stan taking complete control of Arsenal.”

    Nothing really changes.

    It’s about self-sufficiency.

    And this is regardless of the leech owner.

  13. raptora

    Deez_Nutz’92,
    we have spent more than Pool NET in the last 5 seasons that’s for sure and I made the calculation several days ago. Difference was sizeable. Pool have sold very well and bought very well that’s the difference. We’ve either bought bad or players declined, then nobody would want our players cause of either high salary or not good enough for the top teams to whip out the cash.

    “All I am saying is that a year ago these signings would have been mocked by bloggers but because its being made by someone else its ok.”

    I’ve said it numerous times, that I don’t agree with almost every decision this new management has taken, including the crazy Ozil renewal, the swap in which we’ve got Mikki, renewing deals for average players – Elneny, Chambers, Iwobi etc, not signing a winger/wide forward when there was very good “budget” options and it’s obviously going to hurt our team so, so bad in the course of the campaign, the transfers in of two old, not pacey defenders etc, etc.

  14. Marko

    Nobody knows what the future holds for AFC but zero accountability and no transparency is never a good thing. Add to that Kroenke’s pathetic track record as an owner, there is a genuine cause for concern.

    How transparent are Chelsea under Abrahmovic? Liverpool under Fenway? United under the Glazers? City under Abu Dhabi 😉 . What has Usmanov owning 30% really done for us? Honestly much like with the new manager it’s wait and see for some doom and gloom and be careful what you wish for with others. We need to relax. We’ve been going nowhere for years and now we’ve got a new manager a new management structure and now a change in ownership. Basically let’s give it a chance

  15. gambon

    Dissenter

    We have outspent Liverpool in recent years.

    Liverpool have raised £200m in sales in the last 12 months.

    If we had more management competence in the last 5 years we would be able to raise more from sales.

  16. Dissenter

    Champagne,
    “Not sure why/how Vida is any better than Evans who could’ve been had for 3mil instead of 20.. Just saying.”

    You can make the same case for Papdopolous.
    Evans was the better buy at the time compared to Papa.
    Said it back in June and got drowned out by you lot.

  17. Marko

    You on the other hand makes it sound like he cannot afford it. So i repeat do you know who Aliko Dangote is ?

    No I’m just sceptical is all about a billionaire who says he’ll buy Arsenal but that he’s just waiting until he finishes building this thing first before he can do it. Doesn’t seem right

  18. raptora

    “Liverpoool can afford to spend more than that on ONE defensive player.”

    With the money they got from Coutinho.
    They finished the season with 6m NET PROFIT.
    Just like the season before where they finished the season with 5m NET PROFIT.

  19. Dissenter

    Kroenke does at even have to fly down to London for that pesky AGM where you bad-mannered Londoners ashy silly questions.
    Good riddance.

    We are now Arsenal FC KSM

  20. Marko

    We are fucked because the sole owner doesn’t give a toss so long as the numbers on his investment tick up.

    Success breeds success

  21. Biggles

    I don’t like the idea of Stan owning Arsenal. However I don’t think anything much changes – he already has close to total control, even if he needs to be open about it. No, I don’t see him spending like an Oligarch or oil sheikh, but on the other hand, Liverpool seem to be doing fine under Fenway Sports Group and whilst they are pretty much universally hated, the Glazers have still won the league 5 times and the Champion’s League in the time they’ve owned United. All of which has been since we last won the league.
    ————————————————————-
    More to the point, I find it indicative of a totally different mindset between Americans and Brits – he’d go and get a loan to buy Arsenal and hope that between asset appreciation, a weak Pound and “management fees” he can extract, that he’ll make money. The British mindset however is to just sell up for short term gain and never own anything in the long term. You see it across all kinds of British companies. Vodafone remember used to be the biggest telecoms company in the world – 18 years ago they bought Mannesman for £112 billion. Today, they’re worth £50 billion.

    The asset stripping is one of the reasons European economies are doomed in the long run and they aren’t doing anything at all to avert it.

  22. Deez_Nutz'92

    Ishola70 you seem to know a lot about Lucas. I hope your views are not just from the WC or youtube clips.

    All I know is Lucas is no Gary Medel apart from in height or maybe being from ‘Latin America although they have comparable playing styles, however, the refs ensured those players were made to leave the league whilst the likes of Shawcross are seen as old fashioned English players.

    To me it looks like any ‘tough’ player who comes in to the league who is not going to play for England is scapegoated away.

  23. Marko

    I absolutely loathe arsenal’s so called ‘values’.
    They’re not the fans’ ‘values’. that’s for sure They’re Stan’s values and the values of the previous board members who sold their shares to him.

    Stan Kroenke taking the Club private will see the end of supporters owning shares in Arsenal and their role upholding custodianship values.

    That second part is from the AST statement. Alex I like you you’re a nice lad but values and self sufficient/sustainability predates Kroenke

  24. KAY Boss

    Deez Nuta92, agree with u perfectly re Vermaelen and Xhaka.
    They were good players who were just targets for refs thereby losing their mojo. Good to bring this up. Some forget how good Xhaka was in his early days with us. Refs decisions can inadvertently define your progress in your game

  25. Dissenter

    Everton just leap frogged over us, the same way City, Chelsea and Spuds did in the last decade.
    They have two owners who will open the checkbook

    They are buying better players now. I wonder why Bernard wasn’t even approached as a wide man.
    .

  26. Champagne charlie

    Dissenter
    Don’t take you seriously when you start your “you lot” bollocks. I represent myself and that’s it, I never opposed Evans given our needs so reel it in.

    Marko
    You sound like a muppet with your “true colours” patter. I’ve been against Stan for years so why exactly would now be different?

    Also it’s not the same as giving Emery (a brand new manager) a chance. Stan hasn’t arrived here today, he’s been a nothing owner for over a decade. With this new power he can now hide more

  27. Ishola70

    Deez

    Let’s get it right.

    Xjaka is not tough. He was getting in trouble with refs for mistimed silly tackles.

    Torreira is a different character altogether. That’s not to say that he won’t get into trouble with refs at times as well but it won’t be along the lines of Xjaka.

  28. Marko

    Kroenke does at even have to fly down to London for that pesky AGM where you bad-mannered Londoners ashy silly questions.
    Good riddance.

    Yeah the questions at those things were vetted and pointless. Those meetings did fuck all over the years considering how long it was before Wenger left especially how apparent it was that he was past it for so long. And those meetings had no bearing on the change that came instead it was empty seats and tiny protests

  29. Receding Hairline

    “Everton just leap frogged over us, the same way City, Chelsea and Spuds did in the last decade.
    They have two owners who will open the checkbook”

    A bit reactionary isn’t this ??

  30. alexanderhenry

    Marko

    That may be the case, but I disagree with that business model. I’m not suggesting arsenal necessarily need a an owner who pumps billions into the club, but under a more proactive, ambitious owner willing to speculate up to a point- Usmanov would have been that- the club would be in better shape.

    The AST quote is poignant.

  31. Santino

    Kronke or any footballing loving badge kissing owner cant elevate arsenal from its current financial position which is 5 or 6th in england.People acting like we are first or second without kronke. Manu Chelsea city lfc spurs and now everton and probably westham ffs all looking better equipped than us for the future. kronke or no kronke people need to accept this.

  32. Dissenter

    Champagne
    I recall that you were amongst the people saying Papa was a good buy at 17 million when Evans could be had for 4 million. I could be wrong.
    Papa and Sokratis are on the same level; only good enough for Bekistas and Galatasaray.

  33. raptora

    “They are buying better players now. I wonder why Bernard wasn’t even approached as a wide man.”

    Same Bernard that at the age of 25 has 14 goals in 96 games in 5 seasons of the top league of Ukraine?!
    Welbeck for comparison has 15 goals in 80 games in the EPL for us.

    Maybe, just maybe Bernard was considered not good enough?

  34. Marko

    They are buying better players now. I wonder why Bernard wasn’t even approached as a wide man.

    Talk about knee jerk. Usmanov hasn’t even invested in Everton yet they’re over taking us and are buying better players than us? Come on man

  35. TR7

    Marko

    Remember the brouhaha that followed Stan taking out 3M from Arsenal as management fee ? He has not been able to take a penny out ever since. From now on if he takes out 15M from Arsenal to help him pay off Deutsche, you and I would not even know. As for Roman and Abu Dhabhi ownership, Chelsea and City are their play thing, that’s not the case with Stan.

  36. Receding Hairline

    No I’m just sceptical is all about a billionaire who says he’ll buy Arsenal but that he’s just waiting until he finishes building this thing first before he can do it. Doesn’t seem right

    Maybe you should read a bit more. The cost of that refinery alone is a lot regardless of how much you are worth. it’s his biggest investment to date and he is waiting on it’s returns when it gets operational. Then he will have money to play

  37. TT

    I Dont understand what all the fuss is about. Stan has been in full control of the club since he got 50% + stake in the club. He is currently on 70% or there about and dictates everything at Arsenal. Him going to 100% wont make much difference if any at all.

  38. Receding Hairline

    I don’t know about Evans being better than Sokratis. Everyone knows i do not rate Sokratis, but watching Evans last season he was shocking. Man was so nervous he made everyone around him nervous, he is no leader at the back that is for sure.

    It should not be a Sokratis or Evans thing, we had a whole host of options if we are really serious about scouting

  39. Champagne charlie

    Dissenter

    I do rate a defender like Sokratis at 17 mil given our needs, but I also said turf Chambers for 20 and that would mean Evans and Sokratis replace Per and Chambers for no outlay.

  40. Marko

    You sound like a muppet with your “true colours” patter. I’ve been against Stan for years so why exactly would now be different?

    That’s what I meant by true colours. I meant a little of the running interference for Wenger stuff too but blaming Stan for the whole stagnation is what I meant

  41. Dissenter

    Receding
    “Reactionary”???
    Where have you been since all the rumors about Usmanov and Moshiri we’re going on?
    Where have you been all the while Usmanov advocated a different pathway of actually infusing money into the club.
    There’s nothing reactionary.
    Usmanov will share the burden of financially renovating Everton with his friend.. Money talks in football like you are well aware.

  42. alexanderhenry

    Marko

    I understand your position. I can see how it does seem over the top for most arsenal fans to be so negative about stan owning 100% of the club.
    We just don’t know after all.
    Arsenal fc may go from strength to strength under him.

    However, as fans we don’t know a lot about arsenal. All this discussion is opinion, heresay and conjecture.
    Going on the past the years though, it doesn’t bode well.

  43. Marko

    Kroenke was never going to invest into AFC with Usmanov owning 30%Why would he put £200m in to the club to buy assets when Usmanov gets 30% of the benefit.Im not saying he will invest heavily, but at least its now a possibility.

    Again nobody really this and I don’t know why because it may explain a bit. I suppose it goes against a certain narrative but it’s interesting.

  44. Deez_Nutz'92

    Gambon- Arsenal has always been bad at selling players. We sold Overmars and Petit for less than what they were worth. Even PV04 and TH14 were cheap relatively.

    It had nothing to do with the then manager but to do with our board being inept. and maybe other factors such as age and contract length.

    Also you go on about Jenkinson and co not being saleable because of AW as if we are the only clubs who have had players run down there contracts. Didn’t Bogarde, Cisse and Adebayore to name a few all hold their clubs to ransom?

    Some bloggers sound like a Tory chancellor at the dispatch box, I.e how they keep on blaming Labour for any bad decision (and vice-versa). 🙂

    Since AW was here for 22 odd years will AW be blamed for another 22 years or even more?

    I bet if Emery was to win the ‘UEFA Cup’ or a trophy this season it will justify how bad AW was. On the other hand if Emery doesn’t progress the team for whatever reason it would be AW’s fault.

    The man has left; lets move and get back into the Champions league.

  45. Cesc Appeal

    Just live in the world that if Barcelona buy Pogba we will buy Dembele in the next two days.

    Much happier.

  46. Dissenter

    In all honesty, away from the revisionism.
    Is there anyone who watched those Dortmund team we played in the CL and walked away thinking; “damn, that Sokratis defender is exceptional”. It was Hummels who stood out before he went to Bayern.

    Now that he’s signed for Arsenal, we all have to genuflect at the alter of Arsenal values before saying anything.
    He will get a good skinning in the premier league like Kolasinac.

  47. Marko

    Remember the brouhaha that followed Stan taking out 3M from Arsenal as management fee ? He has not been able to take a penny out ever since. From now on if he takes out 15M from Arsenal to help him pay off Deutsche, you and I would not even know.

    If he owns it he can do what he likes with it but again with the worst case scenario thing. Can I just say hypothetically speaking if all Stan done was take out 10’s of millions out of the club to pay off debts after buying up the club outright he’d be a bit of a dumbshit. He’s a billionaire who spent all that money to make even more money and that doesn’t sound like a smart way to make money

  48. Marko

    waiting on it’s returns when it gets operational. Then he will have money to play

    Exactly why I’m sceptical

  49. TR7

    Marko

    ‘Again nobody really this and I don’t know why because it may explain a bit. I suppose it goes against a certain narrative but it’s interesting.’

    Would have been an ‘interesting’ point if Stan had a track record of investing money in other sports franchise he has complete ownership of.

  50. Marko

    However, as fans we don’t know a lot about arsenal. All this discussion is opinion, heresay and conjecture.
    Going on the past the years though, it doesn’t bode well.

    This is very true. And it’s worth noting that Rams fans up until the last couple of years might have said the exact same thing but not now

  51. Dissenter

    If Josh Kroenke takes over from Gazidis, which is very likely since he’s been an understudy and has been in the board for a while.
    He will share managing Arsenal with handling other portfolios on KSM.
    It has its pros and cons since there’s direct access to the owner.

  52. Receding Hairline

    Dissenter

    Then wait until Moshiri and Usmanov actually build a team that finishes above Arsenal before handing out accolades

    I have never really understood the love in between Arsenal fans and Alishier Usmanov.

    If and when Everton have a team better than ours and consistently finish above us then you can say all you have to say.

    As for Sokratis, i do not rate him as well, but as things stand you have not been proven right or wrong. A ball has not been kicked in anger yet

  53. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    Interference for Wenger? Christ you cannot comprehend anything without him. Literally all analysis has been about Stans input and you’re trying to recalibrate as some defence of Wenger.

    Wenger expires because of his actions/inactions but you’re happy to endorse Stan with “let’s wait and see” even though he was complicit in the exact same behaviour that led to you calling for Wenger to get sacked.

    Cannot make it up. Let’s give Stan a chance as sole owner, he’s only been here a decade and overseen a decline. Guessing you don’t reveal your career because it’s tied to the job centre.

  54. Bamford10

    Massive overreaction on the news about Kroenke.

    One, all footballing decisions are made by our now modern set-up (Director of Football, Manager, CEO); the owner has no input in any of this, is hands off.

    Two, the club’s spending is determined by the above, in accordance with the self-sufficiency model; the owner has little to no input in this as well, is hands off.

    Was Emery a good hire? Yes. That happened under Kroenke. Was Mislintat? Yes. Was Sanllehi? Yes.

    Did we break with the old dinosaur and his I-do-everything model under Stan? Yes.

    Relax. Even if Stan doesn’t care all that much if we compete for titles, even if he didn’t really mean the following — ‘my ambition is to see [Arsenal] competing consistently to win the Premier League and the Champions League’ — the men who actually run the club do care about these things, and the self-sufficiency model gives them ample resources to compete.

  55. Marko

    Would have been an ‘interesting’ point if Stan had a track record of investing money in other sports franchise he has complete ownership of

    I’ve said this before it’s very hard to invest in American sports franchises as opposed to football clubs in Europe it’s a very unfair comparison to make with the whole salary cap thing and draft thing. I’m going to stop now because it seems like I’m pro Kroenke or something but again let’s just wait and see there’s obviously change coming to Arsenal let’s see where it goes from here and deal with it accordingly

  56. Pierre

    Ishola
    “Torreira is nothing like Xjaka
    Ridiculous comparison.”

    True..

    Torreira plays a similar game to Jorginho of chelsea from what i’ve seen.. Hopefully just as good on the ball with maybe a bit more bite in the tackle.

  57. Jamie

    Everton “just leap frogged over” Arsenal? Get fucked. The last time they won anything was over 20 years ago (FA Cup in 95). Joke post.

  58. Bamford10

    Kroenke was not “complicit” in Wenger’s various idiocies: Wenger did all of that on his own. Yes, Kroenke placed faith in Wenger — and did so for entirely too long — but so too did “big” footballing brains like Champagne Charlie. Kroenke at least has the excuse that he knows nothing about football; what excuse does a Charlie or an Alexanderhenry have?

    Regardless, Kroenke has also overseen Wenger’s dismissal and his replacement with a smart, modern structure; he has overseen the hiring of Sanllehi, Mislintat and Emery. So clearly he can make good decisions — it’s just a shame that it took us/him so long to make these deciosions. If Stan had listened to Le Grove years ago, these decisions WOULD have been taken years ago.

    Have a good day, all.

  59. Marko

    Guessing you don’t reveal your career because it’s tied to the job centre.

    No it’s more because pricks like you would bring it up every time they’d disagree with an opinion in a debate. Again the interference for Wenger was in reference to your criticizing Kroenke for years stuff. Which you’ve done you’ve criticized Kroenke and ran interference.

    Cannot make it up. Let’s give Stan a chance as sole owner, he’s only been here a decade and overseen a decline

    Kroenke was never going to invest into AFC with Usmanov owning 30%Why would he put £200m in to the club to buy assets when Usmanov gets 30% of the benefit.Im not saying he will invest heavily, but at least its now a possibility.

    Again I can just paste this in response to your other question

  60. Ishola70

    All this talk of decline.

    It wasn’t sharp decline.

    It was competitors getting stronger and Arsenal treading water. It was season just gone that saw what could be seen as decline but there would still be fans that would be polishing turds again if a domestic cup was won in the same season.

  61. Dissenter

    Jamie
    Yea right.
    I bet you were saying the same nonsense when Sheik Mansour bought City in 2008
    “ Arsenal? Get fucked. The last time they won anything was 39 years ago (FA Cup in 1969). Joke post.”
    I amended that post for you.

    Some people never learn from history. You’ve seen the same story repeat itself with Chelsea and City, yet you still throw out some good old Arsenal values.

  62. Ishola70

    Bamford

    “Was Emery a good hire? Yes.”

    How do you know this? The team haven’t kicked a ball yet in a competitive match.

  63. alexanderhenry

    Ishola

    Not sure I agree. Yes, competitors got stronger but apart from a brief period, Arsenal have been unable to keep their best players: Fabregas, Nasri, Rvp, Oxlade chamberlain and Sanchez all left for pastures greener.

    This is unacceptable.

  64. Ishola70

    Pierre
    “Can see a bit of Lee dixon in Lichsteiner”

    Doesn’t defend anywhere near as good as Lee Dixon.

  65. Ishola70

    AH

    “This is unacceptable.”

    AH you know as well as anyone that there was a period where Arsenal were selling off players to balance the books because of the stadium.

    Nothing to do with Kroenke.

  66. Zfree

    Stan is 71 yrs old. His wife has almost as many billions (descendent to Walton family) and is 69 yrs old.

    Be nice if Josh becomes a fan and drunk on the European football scene, inherits money when either parent passes, and goes nuts with the sort of “rich kid letting loose” behavior for a few years pumping in his own money. Can dream, right?

  67. Mark

    @Champagne Charlie

    “You try to amuse yourself often? Idk, masturbate in public full time..

    Lolz, Charlie I said amuse not abuse myself.

    It’s all good tho just joshing with ya. I thought mine was better.