Is anyone leaving this summer?

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Good morning and welcome to the first ever dictated Le Grove.

I don’t want to go on about it but I have broken my arm and any online attention would be greatly appreciated.

Arsenal is being linked with them Dembele again. Just a shame it’s every poverty publication you can imagine putting their name to the story. I love Dembele but struggle to see Barcelona selling the player they purchased £110,000,000 only last summer. I don’t like the idea of us bringing him only for him to have an exceptional season, then to go back to Barcelona to fulfil the rest of his career. It’s a bit like dating Britney Spears before she made the big-time. Or breaking up with a partner of 10 years only for them to win the lottery the next week. OR SELLING YOUR SEASON TICKET LAST FEBRUARY AFTER 10 YEARS.

Also, do you remember the shenanigans of loaning Baptista? The guy was a disaster. Never been so disappointed in my life. I swear that was when the banter era started, how did Wenger think he could ever replace Patrick V with him?

Stories still continue to circulate about our CEO. I wouldn’t say I’m alarmed about him leaving. However, I do find it curious that he hasn’t come out in the press to quash the story. It seems like a bit of a dick move just let the rumor fester especially when such an important season is ahead of us. It really does feel like he is planning to make the season all about him regardless. Does he want more money? Does he want the fans to feel nervous? Does he just like being in the press? Is he getting kicks out finally being recognized as a great CEO? Who knows but it is boring.

Arsene is being linked with the Japan post. I thought he’d be in a job by now, but unless the role is bigger than Arsenal, anything else looks a little bit embarrassing. If I were Arsene, I would look to take over the national role. Maybe help develop an FA In a country that has a lot of potential (and a lot of money). Or just sit around on the beach all day. Recognizing you have hurt your family in the media and not doing anything to remedy it is selfish, in my opinion.

It is worrying there is still no news about how Welsh superstar. How long have the club given him to sign the deal? Transfer deadline date is in 20 days. That is not a lot time to negotiate a big transfer out of the club. That is not a lot of time to find a new player to replace his energy and prominence in the team. I find it difficult to believe the new backroom team does not have a plan in place either way. What is odd, is the seemingly low amount of interest in the services of Ramsey. The Ox was linked heavily to Liverpool last summer. No one is interested in Aaron that I know of. I am not saying That he would not get a move to a good club, merely pointing out that if he did want to go he would be using the interest of the clubs as leverage. Or is this a similar case to Ozil? The player pricing himself out of a move?

So.Much.Mystery.

The club has not sold anybody of note So far. The hot rumours suggest WELBZ, Perez, and Ospina are on the out list. Interestingly Iwobi Is being linked with the move to Lazio. I’m not sure I would feel great about that, He deserves the chance alone for the rest of the players. He has been badly coached, has lots of bad habits, but at core has a lot of talent to offer the team. I also struggle with the notion that a Londoner would want to move to Italy. The English don’t travel very well.

Right, that’s me done, see you tomorrow. Big love from Colorado xxx

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Receding hairline

Fernandinho not Fabinho but they are all ho’s so whatever

cezan1afc

I think alot of posters on here need to give leno a chance first see how he plays your commenting on a game behind closed doors for crying out loud. Also please dont forget that De Gea upon arrival srruggled a little conceded alot of goals from distance but in his second season began to cement himself as one of the best keepers in world football. Patience is key and we all know how knee jerk some of our supporters can be.

Receding hairline

Don’t want Hart anywhere near Arsenal. Dude has been on loan twice and none of those teams thought it was a good idea to keep him

Marko

Cesc can I be honest with you I hate the playing out from the back sweeper keeper shite we keep hearing these days it does my head in honestly especially as a reason to sign someone. The only thing I want from my Goalkeeper the only strengths he has that matter to me is can he save does he have good reflexes and can he command his box especially on corners. It’d be a plus if he didn’t punch the ball either. I hate the whole my Goalkeeper has to be able to pass the ball like Modric crap

Ishola70

Receding

Man City are a special case.

They have a very good manager and they have spent millions upon millions to get that team in Guardiola’s light.

If you want Arsenal to be Man City lite continue with your narrative regarding lack of interest in defensive matters in midfield.

Or maybe you do have interest but just want to argue with me again today.

Was it you that wanted N’Zonzi signed and said all eggs shouldn’t be put into one basket in relation to Xjaka? Think it was.

Or you might mislead and lie again and deny it.

Receding hairline

Marko I have observed you cannot write about Keita without the phrase he is that good. You seem completely besotted

Marko

Seems there are big hopes in the club for Smith Rowe, that will be a player to watch. Emery has taken him on tour and will likely give him some games in the cup ties and Europa League. I’m talking about a certain type of midfielder that many successful or balanced squads have and that we have lacked. Also I think you can class Gundogen as a ball winner. Point is that we only have one in our squad could probably do with another no one said anything about having 3 by the way. Torreira and Nzonzi is way better… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

Marko

I think Emery wants that though, I’ve read that a few times. It makes the team a little less predictable. We have sort of seen that, Cech is only able to kick it downfield but then I suppose if our players were actually coached and motivated they should be closing that down when kicked downfield.

I would also like another CB but I don’t see it now unless Mustafi goes.

Marko

Disregard the first paragraph it was a wrong paste job

Receding hairline

Dunno why you are using the word lie over and over again like holy water. Yes I like Nzonzi and have advocated for him over and over again. He can actually do more than just break up play in case you haven’t noticed. What City a special case..does money spent absolve a team of defensive responsibility? They defend by keeping the ball and pressing.. A tactic than is effective but can be exposed. You do not know Emery’s plan yet neither do I . we all have players we would like to see brought in…what differentiates you and I is… Read more »

Marko

Marko I have observed you cannot write about Keita without the phrase he is that good. You seem completely besotted

Totally. The guy has been playing at a high level consistently for about 3/4 seasons now. Klopp and Mane convinced him to go to them over Barcelona and PSG. If we signed him he’d be our best midfield purchase since Vieira

KAY Boss

some posters always envisage other teams’ players over what we have. if Xhaka had moved to say Chelsea, what will we have said about the team at that time. Xhaka was/is not a bad player like some say so are some of our players. just that at a moment in time even the best are criticised and no player is devoid of criticism.
Good or average players are sold to get better ones. everyone has a genuine point on every single player in this team.

TitsMcGee

So is it Nike or Adidas for next 2019?

Marko

They defend by keeping the ball and pressing.. A tactic than is effective but can be exposed. You do not know Emery’s plan yet neither do I . No way we can do a high press like City no way. Especially with Ozil and Xhaka in the team. Even Mhiki too if we’re honest. I’m sure going forward Emery would like it to be that way and it’ll probably take him a season to figure out certain players don’t fit in to that type of game plan. Which is why I think it’s make or break for Xhaka this season… Read more »

steve

Hopefully that disgusting “Shere Willpower” banner has now been taken down.

Receding hairline

Much like ishola and his pal Xjaka ..

Whatever you say about Ozil Marko does not register with me. I don’t like it when someone simply hates a player.

He has just released a statement on the Erdogan pics ..long story short he says if he meets Erdogan again he will take another picture. Lol

Ishola70

Receding hairline
“Yes I like Nzonzi and have advocated for him over and over again. He can actually do more than just break up play in case you haven’t noticed.”

Well if you are only interested in the aspects of N’Zonzi away from defensive duties why not just stick with Xjaka and forget about him.

Why would you sign N’Zonzi and potentially drop Xjaka for? For what reasons?

Marko

Whatever you say about Ozil Marko does not register with me. I don’t like it when someone simply hates a player. You’re an idiot we were talking about City and a high press and Emery even said himself he wants his team to win the ball back quickly implying a high press. And for us to do that we’d need to talk about certain starters. You see that’s the problem with certain types like yourself you see genuine criticism of certain players as hate just hate fuck debating what another person says they just hate. You need to grow up.… Read more »

Receding hairline

takes one idiot to know another Marko. I repeat you hate Ozil…

Ishola maybe I like Nzonzi better? I would have signed him before he moved to Seville..I would have bid 35m for him before I bid for Xhaka. That does not make Xhaka a bad player ..simply means I rate Nzonzi higher

Ishola70

What aspects of N’Zonzi’s play do you like over Xjaka then Receding?

Ishola70

What aspects do you rate higher?

Marko

takes one idiot to know another Marko. I repeat you hate Ozil

Man you are full of lies today. Where have I written I hate him? I think he’s a bit shit and doesn’t give a fuck about the club but nothing about hate. Again I say certain types cannot accept any sort of criticism about certain players they just dismiss it as hate. It’s pathetic really. Rather than make a case for Ozil in a high pressing team you just dismiss it as hate.

Ishola70

If the question is too difficult for you to answer Receding and I think I know why it is hard for you to answer maybe some of the other posters can help.

What aspects of N’Zonzi’s play is he seen to be twice the player of Xjaka?

I’ll give you a clue it has nothing to do with him on the ball or passing.

Marko

Is it defensive ishola?

Ishola70

Nah can’t be.

Receding would not want a player in the team who is just so much better defensively.

Has to be more than that. Or does it?

Come on Wengerite spill the beans.

Ishola70

Wenger will be turning a whiter shade of pale at this time.

No sooner is he out the door then fans are actually wanting a midfielder who can defend.

Blasphemy.

Receding hairline

There is actually more to Nzonzi than simply defending ishola….so don’t know why you are crowing. Nzonzi is more mobile and disciplined… Xhaka is a better passer of the ball though.

Marko Any statement that refers to Ozil as a shit footballer is one made with hate and spite.

Wallace

Marko

“Chelsea have Kante and Bakayoko and now Jorginho and possibly Loftus cheek. Spurs have Dier and Dembele and Wanyama. Liverpool have Keita and Fabinho and Henderson and had Can. And we had up until Torreira no one. Now we have one ball winner in there could probably do with another hence Nzonzi over Gomez.”

if you’re classifying Dembele, Jorginho & Loftus-Cheek as ball winners then I don’t see why Xhaka & Ramsey can’t make that list. and don’t see the need for N’Zonzi as well as Torreira.

Victorious

“If we signed him he’d be our best midfield purchase since Vieira”

What an utter embarrassing post to make’
Shows the little you know about football,yea like fvck he’d have been our best Midfield purchase since viera

stick to PlayStation.

Ishola70

Don’t be ashamed now Receding. It’s ok.

Everyone knows that N’Zonzi over Xjaka makes the midfield better disciplined and that is from a defensive viewpoint.

Let it out. It’s ok. We are here for you.

Ishola70

Xjaka a ball winner?

Get out of it with that nonsense Wallace.

Seen him shut his eyes when going into challenges.

Some ball winner.

Receding hairline

I repeat there is more to Nzonzi than just defending.

Two me rating him above Xhaka means absolutely nothing. Unlike you I do not think my opinions or ratings really matter in the grand scheme of things. You on the other hand believe everything u write here is gospel.

By the way do u also believe Ozil is a shit footballer. The official LA Liga page still tweet about him till this day. Man is an artiste yet he is supposed to worry that certain posters don’t rate him on le grove. Lol

Receding hairline

Xhaka actually wins the Ball back a lot…that u fail to see it is your problem not anyone else’s

Victorious

Nzonzi is a another glorified water-carrier,we have Torreira doing the dirt work in midfield already, don’t need another player who’s only major strength is making short and sideways passes allover the pitch

A Xhaka-Nzonzi combo will be embarrassingly one paced, no dynamic, no dribbling when pressed back, no midfield play,no mobility..etc

not a fan of Gomes but it’s quite obvious why Emery will prefer such a player to Nzonzi

Ishola70

Receding

You didn’t even answer the question.

Everyone knows that N’Zonzi is twice the player Xjaka is defensively.

He is not twice the player of Xjaka on the ball or with passing.

Therefore N’Zonzi would be wanted by any fan over Xjaka primarily because he is better defensively. Unless they are true Wengerites and don’t like to admit it.

Stop dodging.

Ishola70

Receding hairline
“Xhaka actually wins the Ball back a lot”

lol so why the fuck would you consider signing N’Zonzi and dropping Xjaka for then?

Not only is Xjaka a playmaker he also wins the ball a lot. Sounds fucking good to me. Tip-top.

Marko

if you’re classifying Dembele, Jorginho & Loftus-Cheek as ball winners then I don’t see why Xhaka & Ramsey can’t make that list. and don’t see the need for N’Zonzi as well as Torreira. Dembele and Loftus Cheek are ball winners and Jorginho is more than that but he can tackle for sure. And to be honest considering the amount of arguments we have about defensive signings over the last couple summers I’m not at all surprised that you don’t think we need Nzonzi. One ball winner is enough sure. Considering the fact that we conceded 60+ goals the last two… Read more »

Marko

What an utter embarrassing post to make’
Shows the little you know about football,yea like fvck he’d have been our best Midfield purchase since viera stick to PlayStation.

Wonderful point as always Victorious. You’re getting better at this whole debating stuff you know

Victorious

Nzonzi for Xhaka? Dunno could maybe see some sense in that, but as a pairing? no way.

small wonder the Nzonzi rumours died a joyful death the moment Xhaka signed on, there is more to having a balanced midfield play that having two 6ft plus giants in front of the defence with the turning abilities of a walrus

Marko

Nzonzi is a another glorified water-carrier,we have Torreira doing the dirt work in midfield already

Hasn’t even kicked a ball yet for us. And you make an argument for Fabinho and Keita not being guaranteed to succeed? Certain types as I say

steve

@Vicuntious

“Is either you don’t fully grasp what is ‘euphemism’ or how best to use it, no offense”

___

You showing your mug on here is enough to cause offense.

Marko

small wonder the Nzonzi rumours died a joyful death the moment Xhaka signed on,

You are just the worst “football fan”.

mysticleaves

“He has just released a statement on the Erdogan pics ..long story short he says if he meets Erdogan again he will take another picture. Lol”

Like a boss lol. Bet Ballack and Gambon are on suicide watch

Victorious

“If we signed him he’d be our best midfield purchase since Vieira”

Why should I bother with a plonker who comes out with a statement like this,nothing here to debate upon I’m afraid

Get your mouth off the scousers arse and just MAYBE you might start coming out with more intelligently and objectively balanced comments

Ishola70

You see the problems here with some fans.

A player being brought in to help the team defensively is referred to as doing “dirty work”

Wenger has a lot to answer for.

Victorious

You are just the worst “football fan”.

lol very rich coming from u Marko

the guy that throws all objectivity into the bin to literally big up any player not doning an arsenal’s shirt

Ishola70

Receding

“Nzonzi is more mobile and discipline than Xhaka ”

Are you saying my boy is undisciplined? Are you saying my man is goofy disney style like?

Hope not.

Victorious

A player being brought in to help the team defensively is referred to as doing “dirty work”
Wenger has a lot to answer for.”

Don’t get this

What has Wenger got to do with Torreira coming into a midfied to be the spoiler

is the word ‘dirty work ‘ you have an issue with?

Did he invent the word?

What are the likes of Kante, Casemiro,Allan etc doing for their teams? would their style of play between much difference to that of Torreira?

Enlighten me

Ishola70

Wenger has got nothing to do with Torreira coming in that’s right.

Wenger would not have even considered signing him.

This is a manager in his last season that was playing without a responsibly sound defensive midfielder.

And people wonder why Arsenal finished so low and conceded so many goals.

Torreira is necessary. He is not doing dirty work. He is doing necessary work.

Goobergooner

Chihuahua

Go and get laid and stop being such a cunt every day on here

Carts

“As someone said yesterday unless he wants to go somewhere for guaranteed first team football why not sign Hart as back up GK and competition to Leno for just £5 Million? You can sell Iwobi and Welbeck then for about £40 Million and not have home grown issue” Not a bad shout t all. I think JH needs to consider all factors, here. He’s pretty much lost his squad position as an England GK, unless Butland and/or Hope are injured or suffer a serious lack of form. His contract with City, being c.£100k p/w is running down. Interest in him… Read more »

TR7

‘He has just released a statement on the Erdogan pics ..long story short he says if he meets Erdogan again he will take another picture. Lol”

Shouldn’t be allowed to play for Germany ever again. Doesn’t sing their national anthem, meets a Jehadi dictator and still has the cheek to act brazenly.

Marko

Why should I bother with a plonker who comes out with a statement like this,nothing here to debate upon I’m afraid

Is it because you can’t debate? Because you’re too stupid?

Dissenter

Why didn’t Ozil make this statement before the World Cup, in the days that followed t(e meeting with Erdogan?
He must know his days with the Herman national team are over, same as his special status in German society.

I don’t blame him though. It’s his right to meet whoever he so pleases. It’s no different from Dennis Rodman’s friendship with Kim Jong-un.

Marko

Why didn’t Ozil make this statement before the World Cup, in the days that followed t(e meeting with Erdogan?

I’d say like a certain man in power he did it thinking that it wasn’t a big deal and only after so much criticism that didn’t blow over did he make a statement. Probably written for him. Basically if he didn’t see it as a scandal waiting to happen then he’s as stupid as he looks.

Marko

It’s no different from Dennis Rodman’s friendship with Kim Jong-un.

He’s seen as a bit of a joke though and Özil is seen as a role model some as he’s still a professional sportsman. Appearences and all that. Put it this way I can’t imagine if Steve Jobs was still alive he’d be in too many photo ops with Al Assad. The optics alone

Marko

For the record I don’t think it’s a big deal at end of the day but he should have made a statement a lot sooner like Gundogen did. Gundogen made public statements about it early July before the world cup Ozil July 22nd. People could read it as not caring

Receding hairline

He attended an event and too a pic with the president of Turkey. Turkey is the country where half his family live.

Theresa May recently took a pic with Erdogan too…was she endorsing him?

Germans are acting very weird over this pic..this from a country that adored Hitler.

Receding hairline

Go and read the second part of Ozil’s press release…the DFB looked around and decided to put their world cup failure on one person alone. Politicians ran with it. Sponsors withdrew….The world is going to shot over political correctness.

Victorious

Not at all Marko

You’re obstinate as a mule and simply not the worth the effort.

Don’t kid yourself, you don’t debate about football but rather you follow a negative stereotype of downplaying and ridiculing the club the slight moment something positive is mentioned,not to add your obvious hard on for the scousers or as a matter of fact any club not named arsenal

I’ve seen you venture into a debate and it always serve for comical relief because you’re either always getting schooled or shown up as a plastic fan,lol

Ishola70

Poor Ozil

I’ve yet to see him donning a lederhosen while simultaneously supping a large steiner and munching on a thick bratwurst all the while omitting loud farts.

No wonder the German nation are in uproar against him.

Marko

Germans are acting very weird over this pic..this from a country that adored Hitler

Exactly. They know a totalitarian when they see one. Also this narrative certain types say of Germany pining their world cup failure on one person in Ozil is completely false. You must have missed where Khedira and Low and Muller got fair criticism. But no it’s only Ozil

Wallace

yeah, Bierhoff and others hung Ozil out to dry after their WC exit. would be surprised if he plays for them again.

Marko

The world is going to shot over political correctness

Right wing Germans have the biggest problem with it. You think they care about political correctness

Victorious

Ozil will do well to quit national footy at this stage,he’s always been made as the scape goat any time Germany falters,unforgiveable the way he’s been lambasted by both the German and English media after exiting the world cup

The real culprit ‘Loew’is still hanging there while Gundogan who also took a pic with Erdogan has received less criticism in all of this is also not shocking

Marko

yeah, Bierhoff and others hung Ozil out to dry after their WC exit. would be surprised if he plays for them again.

Again this narrative

Cesc Appeal

Never mind, I bet Ozil can’t wait to get back to double training sessions and all that high tempo pressing play.

Just wait until Ozil is made a scapegoat for Ozil’s lazy performances this season. Typical.

Marko

Given you plenty of chances to debate and time and time again you hide Vic. Also you calling someone a plastic fan is hilarious while Gundogan who also took a pic with Erdogan has received less criticism in all of this is also not shocking — Gundogan responded at the time with a statement, explaining his position and saying it was not his intention to create a political issue with the photo. Ozil, however, has never commented on the issue even after meeting German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier, and stayed away from a media day in the team’s pre-tournament training camp… Read more »

chucky

We have fans on here who are talented moaners, it disgusts me on how Leno makes one mistake and the fans on here are all screaming “crucify him”. Pool got Allison…. The grass is always greener when the player doesn’t cost us 100 million, remember how many on here were praising wengers balls when he bought xhaka and mustafi

Dissenter

I’d say German society knows a despot in the making when they see one.
Erdogan is a totalitarian tinpot tyrant.
When he came to DC last year, his security staff beat up Turks who were carrying placards in front of the Turkish embassy, in the full view of the media with cameras rolling. They were promptly flown out to avoid prosecution. If they can do that in the full view of the media in the American capital, think of what they are doing in Turkey right now.

Marko

I thought chucky was digging out Ishola there but then he said praising Wenger’s balls for signing Xhaka and I thought nah

Cesc Appeal

Hasn’t Erdogan basically undone all the secularising work that Turkey had done prior to him taking power?

I mean that’s never a good thing, that’s like falling back into the Dark Ages.

Receding hairline

I don’t expect u to see the fixation on Ozil Marko since the German world cup debacle…your type only see things that support their narrative

Dissenter

Marko
I agree.
Gundogan manned up, Ozil was cowardly to wait until now bemire his statement about having “two hearts”
German society placed him on a special pedestal to celebrate their inclusion society. That’s why many are outraged.

Marko

There’s certain types who no matter what never criticise Ozil and go to war anytime anyone even remotely criticises him. Basically substituted Wenger fanatics for Ozil ones. God I hope he gets the finger out and actually performs this season otherwise it’s going to be a long season

Receding hairline

This is Ozils fourth pic with Erdogan. One was even way back in his Real days when he handed him his Real Jersey. Was everyone asleep then?

Redtruth

“I will be pleasantly surprised if there’s any club willing to cough up 20M plus for Iwobi. ”

Surprised, i’d be gobsmacked lol

Receding hairline

Some of you really need to stop mentioning Wenger on this forum. Seriously he is like your go to name once you run out of points.

Dissenter

Cesc,
“Hasn’t Erdogan basically undone all the secularising work that Turkey had done prior to him taking power?”

Yes he has.
He’s also gone from mayor of Istanbul to president of Turkey for life.

Ozil ought to realize that his Turkish descent is not tied to Erdogan. There’s a lot more to being a Turk than posing for a picture with a depot.

Redtruth

Marko
“No such thing as a perfect goalkeeper”

Ospina comes damn close.

Marko

I don’t expect u to see the fixation on Ozil Marko since the German world cup debacle…your type only see things that support their narrative

Right back at you certain type of fan

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/germany-out-world-cup-2018-exit-joachim-low-next-manager-sacked-retirement-video-a8421966.html%3famp

Low mentioned. Ozil mentioned. Khedira, Muller, Boateng etc etc. But no just Ozil

Receding hairline

The independent is not a German publication Marko… Christ

Go and look up comment’s from officials of the DFB then draw your own conclusions. You really are very annoying for the most part with your anti Arsenal fan crap. Guess the day we stop wearing red and white you can fully decamp to Liverpool

Dissenter

Receding
“Some of you really need to stop mentioning Wenger on this forum. Seriously he is like your go to name once you run out of points.”

He was manager for 7894 days. It’s only been 70 days since he managed the last game.
Surely you must know that we can’t just turn the spigot off.
Emery will still have to break away from the looming shadow of Wengerism.
The fans haver to learn a different way to think about Arsenal.

Receding hairline

Dissenter

That’s not my point. My point is whenever you say a player is not that bad the next thing that comes up is you are a Wenger lover bla bla bla

mysticleaves

Anyone saying Ozil has not been made the scape goat of Germany world cup fallout is taking the piss.

Other players were mentioned once or twice but the press has stayed on Ozil.

Wallace

Marko “Also this narrative certain types say of Germany pining their world cup failure on one person in Ozil is completely false. ” …. “One could argue Ozil’s extraordinary ability and important position on the pitch require much more than an acceptable performance — “with great power comes great responsibility,” as the line from “Spider-Man” goes — but that can’t explain why the 29-year-old has been singled out for especially large doses of vitriol by sections of the German media. Ozil’s effortless, floating style and slouching shoulders have long been a red rag for all those who prefer their footballers… Read more »

Marko

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