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Bobby Pires didn’t take long to turn from Wenger sycophant, to Unai Emery #1 fan.

“The best signing for me is Unai Emery, the manager. Of course I believe in the players, and especially the new players,”

What. A. Creep.

Last April:

“I want Arsene to extend his contract for two or three more seasons, I’ve made that very clear. I think we can challenge for the league next year.”

Back in the days when people would say, ‘yeah, Bobby Pires, Invincible, says Wenger should stay but Pete from Le Grove says nah’, I always said you need to look out for the open hands of explayers. All those who vehemently pursued Wenger’s back passage wanted a job at the club, begging via compliments in the press.

Italian press is saying that the Ivan G move to Italy is complicated by the fact their financial offer is less than he’s on now… I mean, that’s not really a complication is it?

Anyway, Arsenal denied there’s contact with Milan, and as I said yesterday, it’d be a proper weird move.

The press is linking Petr Cech to Chelsea. Yep, Chelsea. I don’t really understand why they’d take their keeper back unless they wanted him as a coach. Not only is he not up for replacing Courtois ability wise, he’s not a Sarri type of keeper. If you can’t play with the ball at your feet, you’re not going to fit his crazy systems.

In other interesting news, there seem to be a lot of pictures of Emery hanging out with AMN. I always wonder whether that’s a purposeful move, or that he just looks proper good in training pictures? I’d love this to be a major breakout season for the midfielder, he’s such a talent and that high energy would look great in a disciplined system. I wonder where he’s going to play him? Will he be jockeying with Xhaka for position? Will he be back-up for Aaron Ramsey? Is he in the mix as a DM? I mean, surely he’d be a better option than Chambers there.

There’s some scary stats doing the rounds that seem to indicate that Leno has the 3rd worst save efficiency in Europe amongst big teams (here).  This gives a little more light on how the numbers came about. I think there are a lot people who are quite worried about Leno and his ability to pull us out of the ‘WHY R OUR KEEPERS SO SHIT’ hell that we’ve been in since 2006. I’m taking solace in the fact it seems hard to judge keepers with hard numbers because there are so many factors in being successful if you’re a keeper. But, it’s hard not to be a touch worried about a keeper who conceded 16% more goals than he should have.

I’m guessing that Sven has a system that maybe sheds more light on Leno, and that maybe they’ve used a bigger data set to come to the conclusion he’s worth a punt (quite the punt as well). I have nightmares about this sort of gamble, remember we signed Viviano? I was told we’d purposefully picked a keeper we thought was underachieving, that we could develop. I can’t remember the details, all I remember is the picked a keeper right out the middle of the stats pack. The bad old days.

Right, that’s all I have today, see you in the comments.

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Josip Skoblar

I don’t feel sorry for Giroud: he’s a world champion having played all games in the competition. 🙂 Giroud was an essential element in Deschamps’s set up, and he did what he had to do (bar scoring goals, of course… 😉 ).

Carts

re: Ramsey

I’m guessing ol’boy is holding out for a meaty contract. Fair enough.

If we’re unable to agree terms with Ramsey, then selling him along with Welbeck, Perez, Iwobi and Ospina should bring in enough money for us replace Ramsey with a better player and acquire a wide player with better end products that Welbeck and Iwobi combined.

Cesc Appeal

It does seem like Iwobi has been quietly forgotten as a player who could and perhaps should well be sold in the effort to raise funds for a winger.

He is still young enough and perhaps holds onto a bit of potential to improve slightly that a lower EPL club might pay a decent sum for him.

If you could get £15-20 Million for him and then £20-25 Million for Welbeck that would take a large amount out the cost of any winger.

Emiratesstroller

CA

Arsenal have a limited number of home grown players on their books and need to maintain the quota. Both Welbeck and Iwobi are part of that number.

The only Home Grown players in first team squad who I can see offloaded this
summer are Jenkinson and Akpom plus perhaps Reine-Adelaide out on loan.

Players who are currently attached to U23 squad are unlikely to be included
in home grown list of registrations.

David Smith

Real shame about Ox, nasty, multiple ligaments gone.
Unfortunately, any player who has spent their formative younger years under wenger , Colbert and co is a ticking time bomb regarding injuries.
As for the Gazidis to Milan rumours, the only way he is going is if Stan has decided to put Wenger upstairs, and as unlikely as that sounds , sadly I wouldnt completely rule that out

raptora

Liverpool’s last 3 seasons transfer spending net:
2016/17: + £4.50m, 2017/18: + £5.80m, 2018/19: – £107.70m
Total: – £97.40m

Arsenal’s last 3 seasons transfer spending net:
2016/17: – £87m, 2017/18: + £3m, 2018/19: – £70m
Total: – £154m

raptora

The more I think about it, the more it feels like the summer of 2016 was the worst I’ve witnessed at Arsenal.

Xhaka, Mustafi, Perez, Asano, Holding for a total amount of staggering £96m. Xhaka and Mustafi commanding £40m and 37m is the biggest fk up I’ve seen the club do. Add to it the inability to renew Alexis’ deal and Ozil’s at a lower money contract and it becomes an absolute horror show.

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How reliable is goal.com? They’re reporting we’re after a left back and a pacey winger.

Park Chu-young's left testicle

But Wenger said having Sanchez and Ozil on expiring contracts was an ideal situation.

Before the usual suspects accuse me of twisting the facts it’s here…
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10968189/arsene-wenger-insists-expiring-contracts-are-an-ideal-situation-for-arsenal

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Wenger said: “I think it is an ideal situation. When you are a football player you perform until the last days of your contract’.

Ozil and Sanchez couldn’t have received that memo.

Sanmi

Raptora
It could be something like 80m in sells and bring down their net money spent to around 110m. But buying 3 WC players in Fabinho, Keita and Alisson + a very good reliable player in Shaqiri.

How Is any of those 3 world class? Ramsey is better and proven than any of those 3 and he’s not world class

Sanmi

Raptora, xhaka cost us 30m not 40m

raptora

Sanmi,
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-arsenal/alletransfers/verein/11
Transfermarkt are usually on point.

Cesc Appeal

Coman links are getting stronger, with all the links this summer to wingers you have to hope we’re getting one. Would be a massive mistake to go into the season without one.

Such poor squad building to have a side without a single winger. The new lot need to address that.

gonsterous

hope we get in a winger with some end product. but we have posters here wanting the perfect player. if we had ronaldo, there would still be complains of “he doesn’t track back “…

Marko

I personally don’t get the Klopp Liverpool spending criticism I really don’t. In the last few years we’ve seen the prices of players in the transfer market change dramatically so there’s that and if you want to compete with the very best you need better players and in order to do that you sometimes need to spend big money. It’s just the way it is. I mean we were criticizing his defense and saying that he’s stubborn when it comes to defending a bit rigid and he goes out and gets one of the best CB’s in the league and… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

Interesting to see what happens with Monreal, he was player of the season last year in my opinion, though not sure anyone would really shout about that given how shit we were. Interesting to see what happens with Xhaka as well, it may be this is his season to try and prove his worth, I do still worry about his lack of mobility and the amount of work Torreira will be required to do because of that. Whichever side Xhaka is on in the midfield that is the side that you need to put Mkhitaryan out wide to provide a… Read more »

S Asoa

Testicle
Wenger has always been a con master., albeit a very lucky one, helped by the most ingenue fans who haven’t seen through

raptora

“How Is any of those 3 world class? Ramsey is better and proven than any of those 3 and he’s not world class”

Again according to transfermarkt https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler-statistik/wertvollstespieler/marktwertetop/plus/0/galerie/0?ausrichtung=Mittelfeld&spielerposition_id=7&altersklasse=alle&jahrgang=0&land_id=0&yt0=Show

Keita is tied 7-8 most expensive CM in the world, Ramsey tied 12-14.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler-statistik/wertvollstespieler/marktwertetop/plus/0/galerie/0?ausrichtung=Mittelfeld&spielerposition_id=6&altersklasse=alle&jahrgang=0&land_id=0&yt0=Show

Transfermarkt is not always right ofc.
Fabinho is the 5-th most expensive DM, while Xhaka is at tied 6-10 and Torreira at 11-15. Xhaka’s not even a DM but sadly they don’t have a regista category. Maybe transfermarkt is the reason Wenger thought he is finally solving the DM problem we’ve had since Gilberto.

Marko

How reliable is goal.com? They’re reporting we’re after a left back and a pacey winger.

A left back makes sense Monreal is a target for Sociedad. Who do we target though? Emery being Spanish and all hopefully he’s targeting a Gaya

Cesc Appeal

Fabinho and Keita are great signings for Liverpool. I am very happy with Torreira, quite confident that the £26 Million we paid will look like a bargain, but our midfield does still worry me in particular Xhaka who Emery is going to have do some work with to improve.

Pjanic would just be the perfect signing, obviously never going to happen, but that would be the best CM type player for us. A complete all rounder, disciplined, steady and at the same time creative. We need to find the next version of him.

Marko

Alisson is costing Liverpool around 67 million and they’re selling Danny Ward to Leicester for 10 million and you’d imagine they’d get at least 10-15 million for Mignolet so not so bad.

raptora

Sanmi, Not in the mood to try to argue if skysports are more reliable than transfermarkt. Pretty sure that transfermarkt is the best regarded sight for transfers in the world. Sky have been hit and miss so badly throughout the years that saying “around 30m” is far from being reliable. Transfermarkt count bonus clauses money eventually and I repeat, studying transfers is their main job. If they say it’s 40m probably it’s 40m. Plus we have this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3608536/Granit-Xhaka-signs-Arsenal-35m-deal-Arsene-Wenger-admits-club-tracking-Swiss-midfielder-long-time.html saying it’s a 35m deal and this https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/granit-xhaka-signs-for-arsenal-gunners-complete-deal-for-swiss-international-midfielder-a3251411.html saying it’s 33.8m deal, so skysports info is not that close to the truth… Read more »

Marko

Tierney could be a decent shout but you worry about the step up from Celtic to starting for Arsenal.

Cesc Appeal

I always thought Xhaka was £35 Million, so with add ons no doubt it could get to £40 Million.

WengerEagle

Anyone else have a feeling that Sarri is going to flop hard at Chelsea?

I expect Hazard to join Real Madrid and doubt whether they can adequately replace him as he’s the best player in the PL and that calibre of player doesn’t grow on trees.

It’s also a fact that the vast majority of Napoli’s top players in Sarri’s time at the club were brought to Naples by Rafa Benitez. Bit of a rebuild is needed at Stamford Bridge and Sarri hasn’t got the pedigree to orchestrate it.

Cesc Appeal

WE

The whole thing over at Chelsea just seems weird right now, like a club that doesn’t fully know what it is doing.

If Hazard does go I don’t know who they will get, I don’t think players will be overly eager to go there right now. If Barcelona manage to get Kante they are in massive trouble.

WengerEagle

Anyone else see Dortmund have paid 20 million for Thomas Delaney?

It’s crazy how far they have fallen off making signing of that nature. Heading for mid-table soon enough.

Leftsidesanch

I think Sarri could be in for a tough time aswell. It’s interesting that in the predictions for the upcoming season which don’t mean much to be fair – they have been predicted to have a good season.

We haven’t been given a look in to do anything of note which probably helps us. I even read Souness saying that they could challenge if they bring in a top class CF.

Marko

Not sure transfermarkt is the most reliable most of their valuations are way lower than what the club usually sells for. I mean it’s all well and good some analytical website saying this is what a player is worth when the only opinions that matter are those of the buying and selling clubs

Bamford10

“It’s clear what Emery wants. For his part, the Spaniard has made no secret of his admiration for Ramsey. He told a preseason news conference: ‘In my opinion, I’ve said to Ivan [Gazidis], Raul [Sanllehi] and Sven [Mislintat] that I think he’s an important player for me. I’m very happy with him. For me, every day, every training session, he has the ambition I want. He’s working with a quality, the type of ability that I want. I want to work with him.’ It’s easy to see why. Ramsey was one of Arsenal’s better performers last season, and at 27… Read more »

Marko

Anyone else see Dortmund have paid 20 million for Thomas Delaney?

Struggling to sign up a striker too. Gone from Lewandowski and Aubameyang to trying to sign Batshuayi and then Mandzukic. Used to be a time they’d lose someone like Aubameyang and replace him with a Werner

Cesc Appeal

Time is running out with Ramsey, if he won’t sign in the next week we should sell him. No way can the new lot make the mistakes Wenger did last summer. Ramsey can agree to join whoever as of January.

WengerEagle

CA It’s a very weird one alright. They looked amazing the season before last winning the league with a near record points total, and looked to be in a very strong position going forward. Then Conte inexplicably fell out with and sold Diego Costa as well as selling Matic, two absolutely crucial components of the spine of their last two title winning sides and replaced them with a bunch of good players but ones that were noticeably a drop-off in quality. Also fell out with and benched his second best player in Willian for large spells of the season. Now… Read more »

raptora

Marko,
I meant the part where they put the actual transfer deal, not the valuations. Yeah, the valuations are not that close to what the “desperate to buy” clubs pay for the player they need. Especially the EPL clubs. Valuations are more in there to know which player is regarded as more expensive /better investment/ to the other one. After the deal is done though, they put the right numbers in the player profile next to the valuation they give him.

Marko

Nevertheless, if he does not sign before the transfer deadline, Arsenal should still strongly consider selling him.

If he doesn’t sign before the transfer deadline then we can’t sell because we’ll be losing him on a free. If he hasn’t signed up already it’s likely because he’s keeping his options open meaning if he had the chance he’d leave us. Not sure I’d make someone who kind of wants to leave captain if I’m honest

Marko

Rap very hard to know what the actual fee is though. I’ll admit I always thought Xhaka was 35 million if it turns out to be 40 million he’s even more shite in my eyes. Especially since Kante moved for around the same price at the same time

WengerEagle

Marko

Leverkusen and Dormtund as clubs are heading in opposite directions I tell ya.

Leverkusen have amassed an extremely talented amount of forwards with Leon Bailey, Brandt, Lucas Alario, Volland, new Brazilian kid Paulinho, Bellarabi.

They have also brought in Hradecky on a free transfer from Enintracht Frankfurt to replace Leno, astute bit of business and signed Weiser from Hertha at RB, another very good player.

While Dortmund are littered with has-been like Gotze, Reus, Schurrle while being loaded to the gills with average players.

Find it hard to imagine that they will hold on to Pulisic for long.

raptora

WE, Chelsea’s problem/situation is that the manager is not really a manager but a coach. Matic was absolutely 100% sold over Conte as he has said numerous times that he didn’t want to part ways with him and that he is an absolute key player to him. He was sold because the managerial team didn’t want Matic to enter the last 2 years of his contract with the possibility to not be able to cash in on him if he refuses to sign which he had probably told them it’s going to happen. Pretty sure that the Costa scandal was… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Stewart Robson made a point about Chelsea …He said Jorginho was not actually a DM but more accurately a deep lying play maker, a regista ( yes i know u hate that word around these parts). He watches a lot of Serie A and he says in his opinion he does not think Jorginho and Kante can play in the same starting 11.

He called him a weird signing unless they were considering selling Kante.

Cesc Appeal

They will just use Kante like Allan at Napoli basically in terms of the all energy midfielder while Jorginho is allowed to focus on his passing game and sitting back

Cesc Appeal

If Chelsea lose Kante that’s it, I don’t know how you replace Kante.

Receding Hairline

@ Cesc

Jorginho is not actually a good tackler…bear that in mind.

raptora

I’m confident that Ramsey will sign da thing for us. It’s been taking a lot of time though. I think the club needs a bit of stability now that the bed and furniture has been changed. Losing Ramsey would be a big blow to the internal atmosphere of our club. And it will mean that we won’t have a single semi decent British player. And our current longest serving player if I’m not wrong.

Receding Hairline

“If Chelsea lose Kante that’s it, I don’t know how you replace Kante”

You get another midfielder. There has been tidy midfield play before Kante and they would be tidy midfield play after Kante.

Casmiero as a DM actually impresses me more than Kante.

Cesc Appeal

RH

You get another midfielder, but that other midfielder won’t be Kante. You’ve jumped straight to one of the best CDMs going in Casemiro.

Kante is so underrated by so many people, allows the team to function, does the work of two people in that area, shields the defence and is actually quite decent at providing impetus going forward when he gets the ball.

Chelsea can’t replace him.

Receding Hairline

“Chelsea can’t replace him.”

I respectfully disagree. Chelsea won loads before Kante and can easily do the same after him.

WengerEagle

Yeah raptora think it takes two to tango though, no way all of the questionable moves over the last year have been over Conte’s head- he would have walked if that was the case as the year has done no favours for his managerial CV. You might say he wanted a payout but surely he would have been entitled to protection from being over-stepped in player recruitment in the contract he originally signed to join the club as manager? It’s odd what has transpired at Chelsea over the last few years. Around the time that they first won the title… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

RH

I don’t really think that’s the point though, they may well go on to be successful after him, but they will have a job building that area of the pitch back up again.

WengerEagle

Not sure Barcelona would sign Kante, as much as I rate the lad they would be taking that club into a new direction as he’s not the kind of CM that they traditionally build around.

That’s no disrespect to Kante who is a superb player, Barcelona are just a unique club for better or worse.

Cesc Appeal

Might be that Sarri actually tries for Allan if Kante were to go, might try to rebuild the Napoli midfield and give himself something to work with.

Receding Hairline

“I don’t really think that’s the point though, they may well go on to be successful after him, but they will have a job building that area of the pitch back up again.”

It’s really not that big a job in all honesty. Yes the rise of Ngolo Kante has been amazing and impressive but i think sometimes his influence is a bit overstated. All they need to do is tweak the system and they will be fine.

WengerEagle

Thiago Alcantara has been strongly linked with a move back to Barcelona for example as Bayern want to sell and raise cash.

Much more likely signing for me.

Marko

Golovin would be a good Ramsey replacement. Not seen too much of him but he reminds me of a Ramsey type

WengerEagle

He’s about to sign for Chelsea if the murmurs are to be believed Marko.

Cesc Appeal

WE

They are after Rabiot as well, apparently, so it may be that Kante is just seen as that CDM that will allow the rest of the team to perform and create some balance.

£35 Million for Rabiot will prove to be a bargain I think, he could get ridiculously good over there.

They have bought in Arthur as well, so the midfield looks to be getting a refit.

Cesc Appeal

‘but i think sometimes his influence is a bit overstated’

We are at total loggerheads with this then.

Leftsidesanch

Has anybody seen Cech lately? Looks like he will literally put Emery in a headlock if he isn’t no.1 keeper, & Leno for starting before him.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MesutOzilClass/status/1019683271846825984/photo/2

Cesc Appeal

If Munich want to raise cash there’s a winger we will take off of their hands

Marko

He said Jorginho was not actually a DM but more accurately a deep lying play maker, a regista ( yes i know u hate that word around these parts). He watches a lot of Serie A and he says in his opinion he does not think Jorginho and Kante can play in the same starting 11. They’re different players so they should be able to play together. Kante can actually play for anyone he’s that good. He’d moonwalk into the Barcelona midfield and he’d start for Madrid they’re probably the only one who might have to tweak their midfield in… Read more »

WengerEagle

Bayern are another elite side that have gradually dumbed down their quality over the years with the aging of great players and the signing of lower-quality younger ones and a questionable decision or two thrown in there, like selling Douglas Costa.

Alonso, Ribery, Robben, Lahm all retired or on the verge of it with them bringing in Renato Sanches, Tolisso, Rudy, Goretzka, Sandro Wagner, Gnabry.

Remains to be seen if it all works out for them but I wouldn’t be confident if I were a Bayern supporter that they will get near the level of Pep’s and Heynckes’ teams.

raptora

WE, I agree. It comes down to Conte saying numerous times that he is doing a great job, that they are giving 120%, that they are overperforming, that maybe last season was fantastic and not what normally should have happened. All of it after it was obvious that they’re not going to qualify for UCL places. Add to it the excuses that Chelsea has lost very important players lately and the dig towards the club that losing on top 4 is not something new at the club since it happened 2 seasons ago… Feels like he was extremely unhappy with… Read more »

WengerEagle

Don’t think Kante would start for Madrid.

Barcelona also love Busquets still.

Marko

Kante has been the best midfielder in two title winning sides and a world cup winning side. I’ve no doubt had we signed him instead of Xhaka certain types opinions of him would be different. In fact had we signed him Wenger would probably still be in a job. Wouldn’t have that other league title win though

WengerEagle

CA

Something tells me that PSG won’t entertain selling Rabiot. They would have to be very stupid to.

Unless his contract is nearly run out.

Receding Hairline

“They’re different players so they should be able to play together. Kante can actually play for anyone he’s that good. He’d moonwalk into the Barcelona midfield and he’d start for Madrid they’re probably the only one who might have to tweak their midfield in order to fit him and Casemiro in.” Nobody said Ngolo kante and Jorginho were the same players. He simply said they both like to seat in front of the defense although how they now go about their work is different. One is more of a deep lying play maker than a tackler, the other likes to… Read more »

WengerEagle

I’m sorry but no chance that Kante was better than Pogba in the World Cup.

He actually had a bit of a shocker vs Croatia and Belgium.

raptora

Best DMs are probably 1. Casemiro; 2. Kante.

It would be irreparable damage to Chelsea if they lose Courtois, Kante and Hazard in one summer. Irreparable. It would take them out of UCL for 2 or 3 seasons more at least imo.

WengerEagle

Marko I’m a big fan of Kante but you’re going overboard in your eulogy of him.

Marko

Don’t think Kante would start for Madrid.Barcelona also love Busquets still.

Madrid is the only one who may not need him even though it’s worth noting it’s only in the last season and a bit that they finally settled on Casemiro and that was mostly because of Zidane who never cared for a galactico type team and just went for a more balanced team. He’d start for Barcelona. He’s better than Busquets and they started Paulinho and Iniesta a lot in midfield last season so he’d find his way somewhere in there

WengerEagle

Marko

Iniesta and Paulinho are both gone, the main reason that Barcelona have struggled in the CL in recent seasons has been because of the disparity in quality between their midfield and forward players, Messi absolutely carried them last season to the title when he had no business doing so.

They have brought in Arthur and look to be making moves for Thiago Alcantara not to mention Coutinho will be available for CL football.

I think Busquets was the least of their midfield issues last season and he certaintly isn’t going anywhere.

TallestTiz

No to Coman!!

Right footed winger?? Martial

Left footed winger?? Malcolm or Douglas Costa please.

Receding Hairline

“Marko I’m a big fan of Kante but you’re going overboard in your eulogy of him.”

That is putting it mildly.

Would Leicester have won the premier league without the Vardy and Mahrez double act?? Or was it just the defensive midfielder tackling all over the place that won them the title.?

If France depended on Kante in the World cup final they will not be the current World Champions. Croatia’s midfield wizards made him look like an average footballer.

I have seen Knate given the run around at the emirates by Ozil…yes Ozil.

Marko

I’m sorry but no chance that Kante was better than Pogba in the World Cup.He actually had a bit of a shocker vs Croatia and Belgium.

Credit to Pogba who had a good world cup but Kante was better overall. He was admittingly poor against Croatia in the final rightly subbed on a booking but no way did he have a shocker against Belgium. High flying Belgium and DeBruyne was totally nullified in a large part because of Kante.

TallestTiz

I pray we don’t help Bayern offload their burden in the shape of Kingsley Coman

Radio Raheem

Ramsey + £20m swap for Martial

Winning

gonsterous

still disappointed we didn’t take cesc back. he doesn’t even play the ozil role. he’s more of a CM, ozil is a CAM. cesc would have played ramseys role and elevated the team as well. That’s why I kept saying if we had gotten cesc we would have won the league and Wenger may have gotten to stay at the very least one season more. But le monsiour always has to be right, so of course he’s living a regretful life now…

Sanmi

Marko,
Stop over stating the importance of kante. He was also in the Chelsea team that finished 6th. His job is to stop play, that’s it. He doesn’t contribute to forward play. He still need others to help out.
It’s no coincidence that Chelsea finished 6th when matic left, and Chelsea fans complain about cesc’s lack of defensive awareness as part of their downfall. Kante is not super human

Marko

Would Leicester have won the premier league without the Vardy and Mahrez double act?? Or was it just the defensive midfielder tackling all over the place that won them the title.?

Did you not understand me when I said best midfielder in a title winning team? He was the best midfielder in a title winning team. I seem to remember he got the player of the year award no?

I have seen Knate given the run around at the emirates by Ozil…yes Ozil.

Bet you didn’t

raptora

Matuidi was MotM for me in the France v Belgium game. Top performance. Was literally everywhere.

It was Kante who had a shocker vs Croatia and Deshamps agreed with it as he was subbed in the 55′ with Nzonzi coming in. Ngolo has had terrible games vs us in the 3:0 trashing, in the FAC final where Xhaka and especially Ramsey won the midfield for us. He is not almighty but definitely a top, top player and probably 2-nd best in his position.

WengerEagle

Marko

Pogba was far more influential.

His reputation precedes him a bit and he’s Kante’s opposite in personality and demeanour which doesn’t appeal to everyone but he played very good football in this tournament and was France’s best midfielder.

Whoscored MOTM in the Final and was France’s best midfielder vs Belgium and Uruguay.

Kante was better in the groups but in the knockouts he struggled a bit. Belgium dominated large swathes of the SF and Croatia manhandled him in the Final where he was taken off just after HT.

gonsterous

I agree pogba had a great WC. most were blind to see that here. he lost the ball on a couple of occasions and that got highlighted and everyone concluded he was shit for France…

Marko

Sanmi 5th we finished 6th

grooveydaddy

Kante was apparently ill before the final, but played anyway.

Receding Hairline

“He is not almighty but definitely a top, top player and probably 2-nd best in his position.” The point i am making. I am just tired of people acting like he was the reason the teams he played in won titles. Yes he does his job well 95% of the time, his job is covering ground and tackling. Marko you may need to watch the 3-0 against Chelsea at the Emirates again, that is assuming u even watched it the first time, Ozil made Kante look like a championship player, he was trolled mercilessly after that game, of course u… Read more »

Guns of Brixton

“Giroud is a strange one. He seems to play as a front line defender for France and a kind of decoy for the wide players. Very ineffective as a striker but it all seems to work in that system.”

Never seen Giroud summed up so go damn well loooooooool

Marko

Whoscored MOTM in the Final and was France’s best midfielder vs Belgium and Uruguay.

Whoscored who cares I agree overall he had a good tournament but like in the final a little bit of prospective is needed. Up until the first goal he was annoymous in the final then he took over so really the 59th minute. He improved as the tournament went along but Kante was very good in pretty much all the way bar the final. Can only really think of him Casemiro and Matic as the stand out DM’s in Europe

raptora

WE:
“Whoscored MOTM in the Final and was France’s best midfielder vs Belgium and Uruguay. ”

Matuidi had much better score than Pogba in the Belgium game – 7.39 to 7.88. Vs Uruguay it’s true but he had Tolisso instead of Matuidi partnering him so not much of a contest lol.

Marko

The point i am making. I am just tired of people acting like he was the reason the teams he played in won titles. Yes he does his job well 95% of the time, his job is covering ground and tackling. I said best midfielder in two title winning sides. Marko you may need to watch the 3-0 against Chelsea at the Emirates again, that is assuming u even watched it the first time So just the one game. Thus proving consistency is one of Ozil’s main issues. Like I said before you are the type that had WE signed… Read more »

gonsterous

marko

Matuidi is a very good DM too. gets the job done…

raptora

“Whoscored MOTM in the Final and was France’s best midfielder vs Belgium and Uruguay. ”

In continuation, MotM in the final vs Croatia is a bit rich of them tbh. Croatia won the midfield battle by a fair amount so I don’t find it correct for him to get the nod. Modric was sublime in that game. MotM had to be from the winning side I guess. Plus he did score a goal.

Rambo Ramsey

Arsenal midfielder Mesut Ozil has been named in L’Equipe’s worst XI of World Cup 2018.
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I hear Pierre’s booked a flight to France to educate L’Equipe on the chances created statistic.

Marko

I hear Pierre’s booked a flight to France to educate L’Equipe on the chances created statistic.

He still hasn’t gotten back to me yet about Ozil’s big chances created statistic. That’s a thing too apparently

Receding Hairline

“Like I said before you are the type that had WE signed Kante you wouldn’t shut up about him being one of the best midfielders in Europe”

I can’t remember ever calling an Arsenal player in recent times the best at anything in Europe, then again i can’t remember calling any Arsenal player the worst at anything in Europe. Because our players are mostly in the middle.

You on the other hand has already established yourself as the poster who believes anyone not wearing the Arsenal jersey and that you happen to rate is the best in Europe.

WengerEagle

raptora

I agree my point was that Pogba was France’s best CM in the tourney, Croatia thoroughly outplayed them in the Final until the hour mark when Pogba KO’d the game.

raptora

WE,
Shameful for mouninho because he’s been struggling to use Pogba’s talent properly for good 2 years now. Went as far as putting him on the bench and not playing him in several games.

Sanmi

Marko

This statement you made sum you up perfectly :’Like I said before you are the type that had WE signed Kante you wouldn’t shut up about him being one of the best midfielders in Europe’

The fact that you down play our players and big up everyone else’, meanwhile a true fan is to do the opposite. If you have a player in the 3rd position in the world, in your eyes he should be 1st or atleast 3rd. But you magically make our 10th position player look like 50th and the opponents 100th like 1st.

Marko

If you have a player in the 3rd position in the world, in your eyes he should be 1st or atleast 3rd. But you magically make our 10th position player look like 50th and the opponents 100th like 1st.

Yeah that makes sense. Stick to migrants and Trump okay dummy

gambon

“Marko you may need to watch the 3-0 against Chelsea at the Emirates again, that is assuming u even watched it the first time, Ozil made Kante look like a championship player, he was trolled mercilessly after that game, of course u will remember this more vividly if it was an Arsenal player getting trolled.” This is one of the most embarrassing posts i’ve ever read, and points to a severe lack on intelligence. Ozil turned Kante once in a poor Chelsea performance, and Chelsea went on to win the PL with 93 points, with Kante as arguably their best… Read more »