Emery brings in 5 man entourage, here’s why that’s a very odd move (long read)

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Let’s crack into a delicious portion of hot off the press Gooner news.

Bernd Leno: What does it mean?

Arsenal were rumoured to have a £50m budget this summer. We just dropped £25m on a keeper. Petr Cech might take the #1 jersey, but it’s hard to see past Leno starting. Cech’s form has been shoddy, he can’t play with the ball at his feet and at 36, it’s clear his reactions aren’t what they used to be.

I think the legendary Czech will stay on for his experience and winnertivity. Leno didn’t move at 26 to be an understudy. I would certainly expect David Ospina to be moved on. He’s never been good enough, he showed how poor he is with a miserable World Cup opener against Japan. It gave me heart to watch Chezzer also gaff hard against Senegal. He’s another keeper who was massively overrated by our fans.

What I love about Leno; outside his ability to make the unexpected saves Arsenal fans have been starved of, is the new layer of options he brings to us defensively. Hoof won’t be the only option, allowing us to transition the ball up the pitch from the back, we’ll also have a keeper who can break the lines with smart passing, as well as a sweeper option if we need it. He’s going to be very useful if he can regain the form that had everyone fluttering eyelashes at him 2 seasons ago.

Also worth noting that form and scouting for keepers is super fucking hard. Confidence and system plays such a massive role in performance. Look at Richard Wright and Jordan Pickford. Both looked exceptional for shite sides, then couldn’t cut it when they made the move up. Ter Stegen, on the other hand, went from relative unknown to winning a lot of big trophies at Barca.

I remember reading Dave Seaman talk about the difference between big and small clubs. He basically said when you play at a big club, it’ll be freezing, you’ll have seen none of the ball all night, then BANG, there’s a 90th minute top corner strike you need to deal with.

His bad season at Leverkusen isn’t the issue, it’s whether he has the focus to make it at an elite side (if all goes well this season and we become elite). Is he Oblak or Karius? Let’s pray this expensive gamble is a lucky one.

Jack Wilshere: how do we feel?

We all feel sad. Jack was the kid that curled home that beauty against West Ham for the kids. The real deal. He was the pugnacious tough guy who took it to Barca. He was our Gazza. Sadly, Wenger blew his body by overplaying him, then the injuries set in and he never recovered.

I can see the difficulties for Jack. Growing up in the spotlight of the English press must have been a nightmare. As with all our Project British players, Wenger never really settled on a position for Jack. The player wanted to play at the base of our midfield like he did for England, Wenger thought he was a #10 or a right midfielder. If you can’t own a position, it’s very hard to develop. I also heard the player wasn’t exactly a fan of Wenger’s ways, which can’t have helped.

It’s difficult to see Jack Wilshere go when we’re offering players like Xhaka new deals. Outside fitness, I can’t see anything the Swiss does better. But it is what it is. We can’t keep waiting on potential, and when money is tight, you have to make important decisions and the club has made their choice.

Question is, who replaces him? Kike Marin has us in for Banega, which feels like a very solid stop gap replacement. However, the Spanish journo also comments that the Argentine is seen as a cheaper option to Torreira, which would be really disappointing. I mean, firstly, Banega is a centre mid, not a defensive mid. Secondly, I’d much rather be investing £20m more in a 22-year-old, than a 29-year-old. Also, Banega broke his leg getting run over by his own car. That’s Gabriel levels of dimness.

Are we really doing this?

Emery: Bringing the band back together

Arsenal confirmed to the press that Jens was off, along with Boro, Peyton, and Banfield. To replace them, the club has basically let Emery bring his entourage with him from PSG.

‘Emery worked alongside Carcedo, Villanueva, strength and conditioning coach Julen Masach, goalkeeping coach Javi Garcia and video analyst Victor Manas at his previous clubs and all of them have made the move over to London Colney.’

This move is really interesting. In the blur of excitement around how well Ivan and his new team are doing, the fact that our CEO let the head coach bring in 5 of his mates without question is amazing. The club is going back on its plan to control the backroom infrastructure, instead, opting to give the new manager a huge amount of power with these hires. Really, when they didn’t need to. Arsenal had all the leverage with the Emery hire. He needed us more than we needed him.

The oddest move has to be in the performance department. I wrote last summer that the hiring of Darren Burgess was really weird as we already had Shad Fosysthe. One is listed at the Head of Performance on the website, the other the Director of High Performance. That’s a cluster fuck right there. Now we have a strength and conditioning coach coming in who is the manager’s confidant.

HOW DOES THAT WORK?

The Director of High Performance will have the report into the manager’s mate by the looks of things. Imagine flying halfway around the world to make an impact in your new job, only to find out you’ll be reporting into somebody who sneaked in the back door because he had mates in high places. It’s the fitness equivalent of Gerard Houllier and Roy Evans sharing duties back in the day.

Broader question here, did the club interview all of the new appointees? Or is it just a wink and nod from Emery that has them in new jobs? More importantly, do any of them speak English? This extract comes from an interview with Emery.

‘Luckily, the French I learned when I was younger helped me out a bit! Of course, I don’t fully master it. One day, I heard Rafael Benitez say that he wasn’t able to transmit everything he wanted to say in English, and that surprised me because he was fluent in English and that he had been living there for 15 years. But he was missing that small percentage which would have allowed him to connect perfectly with his players.

My language proficiency in French was enough to explain myself and to be understood. Of course, one of the most important elements for a coach to succeed lies in his ability to communication and connect with this players. On an emotional level. Furthermore, I tend to talk a lot in the dressing room, even if I brought down the intensity of talks to 60%. But I was able to say what I wanted to in French thanks to the two years of French I had studied in Hondarribia when I was young. My talks with the team were done in entirely in French, and I think that we understood each other and that the language wasn’t a barrier for us.’

How do the club manage the language barriers? Does Emery do what Pep G did, and hire in a Premier League player who can speak Spanish and think at the right level? A Santi like object would have been perfect, but maybe someone like Cesc Fabregas who could end up leaving Chelsea this summer, and has gone on the record to say he’d love to return to Arsenal as a coach, could return in some capacity?

Alternatively, Emery could keep it simple and go with the team he’s kept with him throughout his career. If he chooses that path, that’ll mean the Spanish speaking players will be elevated to leadership like positions. Nacho Monreal, who I think is an exceptional player and human might relish that role. Hector Bellerin might enjoy that as well. The revenge of Lucas Perez could see him return and wreak havoc on the club that dismissed his talents.

I keep talking about the language challenge because the first three months of the job are so important. This paragraph helps give context to what I’m getting at.

One day, Jorge Valdano said, “At Barcelona, the leader is Messi. At Real Madrid, it’s Florentino Perez. At Atletico, it’s Diego Simeone.” A player, a coach and a president. A different kind of leader every time. I know when I’m the main person responsible, and when I’m not. It’s a process that a coach has to live with and internalise, and that he assimilates with time and experience. In every club, you have to know what your role is and what role you have vis-a-vis the rest of the group.

I am of the opinion that PSG’s leader is Neymar. Or that he is currently becoming it. Neymar came to PSG to be the leader, to go through this process to someday become the best in the world. It’s a process that will require a bit more time in order to consolidate this position. At Manchester City, Pep is in charge. At PSG, Neymar has to be.

I think that I managed the dressing room quite well. My greatest satisfaction was that the team didn’t sink, after losing against Barcelona or Real Madrid. A few weeks ago for example, we had a horrible first half against Saint-Étienne, but after the break, with one player sent off, we reacted well and managed to equalise. One of my staff members told me, “Unai, today the players showed that they are with you. If that weren’t the case, we would have lost.”

The notion that players can end you is something new to Arsenal fans. This is something Emery is going to be acutely aware of when he comes to Arsenal. The players at our place couldn’t end Arsene, he was an immovable object. The last two seasons, they pretty much-downed tools, yet the manager was given full backing by the board.

Emery won’t have that luxury. He has a two-year deal, with Arsenal retaining the option to keep him on with a 3rd year if he smashes it. If the players don’t like what they see, or they don’t react well to the violent shock to the system that’s coming, the new man could be in trouble, very quickly.

That’s why he has such a tough job on his hands. Sure, there’s a lot of low hanging fruit to be had, but only a fool would try and harvest it all in one go. If you’ve been in any sort of transformational role at a company, where you’ve taken over a bad team (or watched a bad team taken over), you’ll know that the secret is to work with the people you have and slowly implement your ideas and changes. The dick swingers who wade into big organisations and try to enact an overhaul in weeks, usually come out with egg on their face. They alienate the people working for them, and often those watching in. They miss the good bits and end up making swift exits with their tails between their legs.

Emery is going to have to play a masterful game. He needs to show the board he’s making progress, at the same time, he needs to show the players and backroom peeps he’s a team player. That’s why it’s so interesting the club let him bring in a large backroom team of his mates, versus giving him a team they owned to work with him (the modern structure Ivan promised). If you let him bring in two people, he’s forced to work in a system, if you give him 5 people, that’s a fully formed unit everyone has to abide by straight away.

That’s great if these new guys are easy to work with, troubling if not. As I said the other day, Arsenal are closer to PSG than they are to Sevilla. This excerpt kind of talks through the basic differences.

As a coach, I had the habit of showing players what steps to follow, similar to controlling someone with a joystick. Except that when you come to PSG, you realise that the players are the ones who make the most effective decisions. One day, I told Neymar that, “There are match situations we have worked before the game, but in your case, you imagine those situations by yourself.”

Let’s start from this very basic principle: coaching is very, very, very difficult. From there, coaching excellent players is even more difficult. Why? Because being convincing is the most fundamental thing to coaching: the players have to believe in you. Whether they believe in you because you have won many trophies, because you are a great coach, because you are imposing, because everything you say ends up happening… Whatever the reason may be. But they have to believe in you. And in big teams, the players expect exactly that – for the coach to not to mess up.

That’s also what they expect in a more modest club, but they are also aware of the larger margin of error and that bad results can happen more often. That is not the case with a big team. You have to be right even on the finest of details: your work, your preparation, your principles, your way of speaking, when you decide to speak. Everything is a bit more difficult. Maybe from an external perspective, you may think that you can work less, but it’s the opposite. You have to speak up at the right time, which can help your team win. In a team like PSG, where winning is expected, that is what gives meaning to your actions and what you say. In smaller teams, the results can vary. Here, it’s not the case. You almost always win, and that’s what forces you to hit your target at the right moment. Every time.

Arsenal isn’t PSG, but we still have exceptional players with big egos. Ozil won the World Cup. Aubameyang is one of the best hitmen in Europe. Lacazette is the top scorer in the Europa League. Ramsey thinks he’s Roy of the Rovers. How will Emery deal with a less talented version of PSG, with the same types of egos?

It’s going to be fascinating. I’m too wrapped up in the excitement to worry too much about the politics of the Arsenal training ground, but you have to pay attention to the amount of change going on, how it’s being implemented, who it’s being implemented to, and the role communication is going to play in making those first three months work.

Anyway, I hope you enjoyed that. Have a great day!

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steve

The only team lighting it up so far are the russians but that’s probably only because they’re in a shite group. The big teams have been a massive disappointment. I can see another Euro 2004 type of tournament with a shit team winning it.

Redtruth

What happens when a player is put through on goal and the ref blows for offside and then VAR shows the player to have been onside.

WengerEagle

Defensively they actually look very good it’s going forward where they look average, bit perplexing given their firepower but then again look at Argentina.

Disjointed and lack creativity.

Champagne charlie

Banford

But what about the Sky sports article you were touting last week about Ramsey being central to Emery?

Penny only just dropping because the blinkers have been on for that long. There’s a huge question mark around Rambo at present.

Bamford10

OK, so both Charlie and Marko are continuing with the lame personal abuse.

If it continues any further, I will definitely be reporting it — and we will then possibly, hopefully be done with these two very unpleasant people.

Or they could stop. And perhaps leave me alone. I have asked about this before, but why is it OK for these two to come here every day and harass me? Honestly, it’s not right, and it’s not cool.

People should be able to post here without being harassed and abused by the same posters day after day. Right?

WengerEagle

Guerrero should have stuck to banging models and piles of Coke back in Lima, stunk the place out today.

TR7

France won’t win the thing, they don’t play like a team.

karim

Why always me ?

Champagne charlie

Banford

Wtf is abusive about what I’ve said to you?

I lambasted your hypocrisy towards Jamie, and just hit your sudden Ramsey realisation with a “duhhh”. Get over yourself.

Receding Hairline

“People should be able to post here without being harassed and abused by the same posters day after day. Right?”

Yes they should Bamford

Then again people should also be able to post here without being told to go away and post elsewhere

People should be able to post here and get a reply that doesn’t start with ” well you know nothing about football”

People should be able to post positive stuff about Arsenal football club without being labeled “Anti-negativity trolls”

People should be able to question other posters without being called “dipshits”

salparadisenyc

karimJune 21, 2018 18:09:18
Why always me ?

Haha! Dipshits.

karim

😉

Redtruth

If Pogba is worth £90m then the Peruvian goalkeeper is worth £200m

Marko

No one’s harrassing you I’m merely pointing out that you don’t know that much about football. Also pointing out the hypocrisy in you demanding an apology from WE for saying that you don’t know anything about football but then you say the same thing about Jaime and completely dismiss his opinions. Might I add grow up.

Yours faithfully.

salparadisenyc

TR7June 21, 2018 18:08:40
France won’t win the thing, they don’t play like a team.

Starting to look like a team to me, not peaking in group but getting thru relatively unscathed. All bout building form, then getting into next gear which they are certainly capable of in knockouts.

Peru quite good, unlucky to not to go further. Coming out of that match with clean sheet is good stuff having weathered storm in second half.

Redtruth

Marko
“Kante is brilliant. Literally never stops moving.”

Stop listening to TV Commentators (Dixon) …plum

Marko

Red I was watching it on RTE

Redtruth

Officials are leaving tight decisions to VAR whereas before the Ref would stop play thus avoiding unneccesary ‘goal’ celebrations

PessimisticPat

Yeah Bamford. Shut up Mark. Sir leedsgunner stole my pencil sharpener. But sir Jamie stole my Mars bar. Least I don’t have a small penis. Charlie go and see the headmaster

Graham62

Why do things get so personal on here?

Technology is ruining the game. Shite, even the fans are asking for VAR!

My team in our family sweep stake (Peru) are out. No holiday in the Bahamas for me.

Australia can still qualify providing they beat Peru and Denmark lose to France.

England will do better than many think.

Rambo Ramsey

Meanwhile I’ve gone through two packs of popcorn.

Bamford10

You know what? Unlike some of the jackals who regularly give me a hard time here, I am a decent human being, so I am going to offer Jamie an apology. And by the way, I am offering Jamie this apology despite the fact that he has said some very unfriendly things about me above. Jamie – I apologize. I may disagree with the claim you made above, and you may have annoyed me in the past with some of the swipes you’ve taken at me, but I shouldn’t have said that you know nothing about football. This is just… Read more »

TR7

Sampaoli has chosen another shitty starting 11

Sancho Monzorla

Bamford

I think for the most part people give you an unnecessary hard time on here.

But today you are simply being an absolute pussy for not apologizing to Jamie. Total hypocrisy.

And then to threaten the people that make fun of you because you’ve doubled down on your laughable reaction by confirming you have a different set of rules for yourself?

At this point it’s got nothing to do with who knows more and everything to do with character. You should apologize.

Cheers.

PessimisticPat

Good on you Bamford

Sancho Monzorla

Well I sound like an asshole now.

Graham62

Anythings better than the 2010 WC in SouthAfrica.

That bloody vuvuzela ruined it for me.

Need a few games to go down to the wire to liven things up.

Hopefully tonights game will live up to expectations.

Redtruth

The only fans asking for VAR are AKB’s.

Jay

Kwik fit MIA

Would have supplied us with world cup birds

Bamford10

Hairline

You’ve made it fairly clear from the moment you arrived to Le Grove that you’re here to battle the negativity that predominates here. If that’s why you’re here, then you are by definition an “anti-negativity troll”. I’m not insulting you by saying that; I’m just labeling you accurately.

But maybe that’s not why you’re here, maybe I’ve got you wrong, maybe you’re just here to discuss Arsenal, to discuss football.

You tell me: why are you here? Why Le Grove and not some other Arsenal blog?

Redtruth

The studio pundits already making excuses for .Messi lol

Leedsgunner

Bamford

I’ve already explained to you how apologies work in my post to you @1716. Do yourself a favour and read it again. If you go through life trying to be right even when you’re clearly not, you’ll just end up looking silly and inviting trouble.

Just some free friendly advice.

Receding Hairline

“You tell me: why are you here? Why Le Grove and not some other Arsenal blog?”

None of your business Bamford…I am allowed to post here be it on a positive spin or negative. I do not need to tell you anything nor explain myself to you. You are just another poster.

Even Pedro does not carry on here the way you do. You need to have a quiet word with yourself.

Sancho Monzorla

Leedsgunner

Stepping stones! I for one think that if you choose to ignore the indignancy laced all over it, it was a rather good apology.

Jamie

Thank you, Bamford. I sincerely apologize for the unnecessary ad-hominems as well.

We can agree to disagree on many things civilly in future, I hope. In the end, I’m completely open to having my footballing opinions challenged.

Chika

LoL someone was close to tears.

Leedsgunner

Good on you Bamford. Respect. 😉

Bamford10

Sancho “But today you are simply being an absolute pussy for not apologizing to Jamie. Total hypocrisy.” You see, though, Sancho, this is entirely wrong, and I will explain how it is wrong. One, I’ve now apologized to Jamie, so there’s that. Two, not only did WengerEagle never apologize to me, certain posters here mocked me for even asking for an apology. Three, there was never any hypocrisy involved because I never said, “one should never tell someone here they know nothing about football”. I said, “don’t say that I know nothing about football, because I do”. See the difference?… Read more »

Champagne charlie

“You know what? Unlike some of the jackals who regularly give me a hard time here, I am a decent human being, so I am going to offer Jamie an apology.“ No, an apology was due because your own criteria of “worst things you can say” was breached. You’re not apologising because you’re a “decent human being”. Good grief, you can’t even apologise properly. Oh, and for the record… you’ve literally fuck all knowledge about myself, so the idea you’re in any position to judge me as a person is full of banter. Would’ve been big for you to simply… Read more »

Graham62

B10

You seem to attract controversy.

Remind me again, what’s your profession?

Your Americanised ways often get the better of you.

Here in the UK we pride ourselves at being able to take shit, give shit, laugh at ourselves and, significantly, admit our mistakes.

“I’m so sorry, I made a mistake” is not that difficult to communicate every now and then if you want to gain an element of respect. Try it sometime.

Contrary to Gibbs rule in NCIS, saying sorry is not a sign of weakness.

TR7

‘Good on you Bamford. Respect. ‘

Respect? Won’t be long before he reverts to his usual self.

Bamford10

Jamie

Nice! Glad you accepted my apology. I can be a bit difficult at times, but unlike certain people here, I am not actually an unfriendly, hostile or unpleasant person. A bit impatient, a bit dogmatic, but still basically a decent, friendly and fair-minded person.

I will try to be more civil to you (if we disagree) going forward. Cheers.

TR7

Messi looks so stressed playing for his national side.

Jamie

Ok great. Now that we’re friends, and just between you and me, this stuff about Neymar…

*rolls live grenade into room and walks out*

Jamie

Jokes, by the way..

Leedsgunner

Tr7

Baby steps mate. Baby steps.

Sancho Monzorla

Bamford All that could be well and true, I will not be doing the due diligence necessary to find out though. I could be making a verdict based on a smaller pool of information than you. It’s usually the case, no two people are approaching anything with the same set of facts/opinions, and it it a combination of those two things that make up a point of view, after all. I guess I’m just of the belief that no one is “entirely wrong” about anything. Not to harp on this but regarding this point: “Three, there was never any hypocrisy… Read more »

Graham62

Ok, now there’s a lovein.

Wonderful.

WengerEagle

Why wax lyrical about Pavon and his connection with Messi only to bench him for Salvio and Meza?

Sampaoli clueless.

Graham62

Croatia looking good.

Jim Lahey

So…. no Dybala..

salparadisenyc

Bright start for Croatia, the Rakitic – Modric mid is a definite sweet spot.

TR7

I don’t understand why no Argentine midfielder drops deep to receive the ball from defense.

WengerEagle

Croatia will score a couple here tonight.

So much space on those flanks for Perisic and Rebic to exploit.

Graham62

This looks like it’ll be a good game.

Bamford10

Leeds Sorry, but even the position you’re taking now is bullshit. People like Charlie, Marko and TR7 have been far more unpleasant to me (and over a much longer period of time) than I was to Jamie. Way more unpleasant and way, way worse behavior. Way worse. I apologized to Jamie. Have any of the above ever apologized to me? No, and they never will. They’ll never even stop saying really unpleasant things. Yet I’m the “bad guy”? Sorry, but that’s fucking ridiculous. If I have to apologize, why do none of these other jerks? Why are they allowed to… Read more »

WengerEagle

Limited ability Vicky.

Can’t fathom how he leaves out Banega, Pavon and Di Maria for Acuna, Enzo Perez and Meza.

Champagne charlie

Banford

What would you like me to apologise for?

TR7

Yeah I wrote a comment earlier about Sampaoli’s selection, don’t understand what’s going through his head. I used to think he was a smart cookie.

Goonah

I dislike Bamford more and more for every #gate

why the fck would anyone compare jack and xhaka with the condition jack (at his best) …..its pointless. By all means compare them now and judge their pros and cons

On another note, the micro penis stuff reminded me of Queen of Surburbia in the good old days of this blog…way before Bamford……Is that you CC ??

TR7

See yet again a defender caught on possession, a complete mess at the back. Midfielders not helping either.

Otemandi is better than Theo in pretending he is a footballer.

Graham62

Definition of cutting your own throat.

Sancho Monzorla

Bamford

Today was not an issue over who was unpleasant to who over whatever length of time. It was a matter of one person blatantly showing a different set of standards for themselves.

There’s plenty of animosity amongst certain posters, I get that. But being a jerk to someone because of their tone in a post or due to previous history vs dismissing someone’s opinion because it not the same as yours are not in the same conversation of things.

Bamford10

Charlie

Well, I can’t tell if you’re being sincere — I doubt it — but if you are, you could apologize for every unpleasant thing you’re said to me over the past two years, and you could promise to be nicer and more fair-minded going forward.

You do that, and I will gladly do th same in turn.

Bamford10

* you’ve

Jim Lahey

Any man who must say ‘I am the King’ is no true king.

Sancho Monzorla

That was the worst corner I’ve ever seen taken.

WengerEagle

Sampaoli hasn’t a breeze what he’s doing.

Greatest offensive group of players I’ve seen in my lifetime utterly mismanaged.

What a waste.

WengerEagle

Don’t mean this current Argentina side but all of their teams of the past decade.

WengerEagle

Lol This world cup cursed it seems.

As dull as South Africa.

salparadisenyc

Subasic looking nervy as fuck between sticks.

TR7

I can’t believe my eyes, Argentina playing horribly bad football.

Bamford10

Goonah

I couldn’t care less what you think of me, but if you’re going to follow the threads of discussion on Le Grove, you have to read the previous pages. You can’t just pick up on the current page. Your comment re Jack & Xhaka suggests you never read my (or other people’s) initial comments on that topic.

Chika

More crocodile tears from the man who has a loud mouth and a micro penis. Dipshit

You’re a despicable human Bumford. Fuck off with your stinking attitude!

Cheers

gambon

Bamford

I think you can be a bit of a snowflake sometimes.

No one should apologise for what they say on a football blag.

At the end of the day you’re all cunts. Even top posters like Leeds, Cesc Appeal, WengerEagle, Franchise, BennyDeVito

Absolute cunts.

Stop worrying about what people think

It could be worse….you could be Redtruth.

azed

It could be worse….you could be Redtruth.

Gambon

Redtruth is a legend. Nobody drops one liners like Ruth.

JAMES WOOD

I said months ago Bamford was an EEL .
And i have little reason to change my views.
As they say around London one slippery
F—-r.

PessimisticPat

Lol Gambon

Well said you cunt

raptora

Such an obvious foul with at least a yellow card. Could have broken the guy’s leg.

Champagne charlie

@Goonah I didn’t coin the micro-penis stuff, and no that wasn’t me…I’m an original with no prior handle. @banford No I won’t be doing that, what I’ve said to you has been predicated on prior interactions. If I ever cross the line with anyone I’ll gladly retract what’s said (and have done before if wrong or I misunderstood), but I’m not massaging your ego. What you fail to realise is I’m very fair with what I say to any and all. I can without question be incredibly cutting and stubborn, but don’t think for a second you’re a victim here,… Read more »

WengerEagle

Preach gambon… you cunt.

WengerEagle

Ah you beat me to it Pat you horrible prick.

Redtruth

Messi even by his standards is having a stinker.

Sancho Monzorla

Quite a chance there for Croatia.

Bamford10

Sancho “It was a matter of one person blatantly showing a different set of standards for themselves.” This is getting a bit tiresome, but no, this is not correct. And I explained why it’s not correct in my third point in my comment at 18:52:27. I never said that one shouldn’t tell another poster here that he doesn’t know anything about football. Maybe he doesn’t. I said that telling someone this is pretty much the worst insult you can level at someone here, and that that was why I responded so strongly to WE. Never did I say, though, that… Read more »

Bamford10

gambon

Fair enough. But take a moment to read some of the comments aimed my way above and on the previous page. Am I really being a “snowflake”? I don’t think so. Anyways, I respect your opinion, so I will move on. Cheers.

salparadisenyc

I’d like to apologize to Wenger, Giroud, Squillaci, my wife, mistress, bartender and dog.

Fuck that.

salparadisenyc

Spicy first half, red card coming soon.

Marko

I mean, do you read Marko’s posts? He is literally one of the most unpleasant and venomous sorts you’re ever going to encounter here. Like, not a nice human being. Not at all Hey I’m a lovely guy. I’ve actually never really been that bad to you not too insulting think I may have called you a prick when you called me a cunt. I’ve generally said worse things to Charlie and him to me but I usually forget it until the next insult. The worst thing I’ve said to you is that you know fuck all about football and… Read more »

WengerEagle

Not going to apologise to your Liver as well?

For shame.

Sancho Monzorla

Bamford

It’s halftime so I’ll bite. Okay. So you never said it shouldn’t be said, only that it’s the worst insult one could throw on here. Understood.

But you casually threw that kind of “worse insult” at Jamie because he didn’t agree with your opinion regarding a couple football players? Unless you two have a history I’m not aware of.

Marc

Bamford

“I never said that one shouldn’t tell another poster here that he doesn’t know anything about football. Maybe he doesn’t.

I said that telling someone this is pretty much the worst insult you can level at someone here, and that that was why I responded so strongly to WE.”

If you think that’s a bad insult. sorry the worst that be levelled on here – fuck me do you live a sheltered life.

Sancho Monzorla

And again, you just said you have a problem being told that, but no problem saying it to others.

I don’t see where you escape hypocrisy here.

Marko

I do, however, have a problem with someone telling ME that

salparadisenyc

WE

My liver adores me and Guiness

Redtruth

Messi is proving to the World he is not world class.

WengerEagle

Oh dear…

Bamford put away the shovel.

TR7

‘I do, however, have a problem with someone telling ME that’

Said minutes ago he would revert to type. was a fake apology to take a moral high ground.

salparadisenyc

Guinness

Cant get that wrong

Marc

Sal

Me and my liver have a legally binding contract that we don’t communicate anymore.

I couldn’t bear the whining.