Emery brings in 5 man entourage, here’s why that’s a very odd move (long read)

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Let’s crack into a delicious portion of hot off the press Gooner news.

Bernd Leno: What does it mean?

Arsenal were rumoured to have a £50m budget this summer. We just dropped £25m on a keeper. Petr Cech might take the #1 jersey, but it’s hard to see past Leno starting. Cech’s form has been shoddy, he can’t play with the ball at his feet and at 36, it’s clear his reactions aren’t what they used to be.

I think the legendary Czech will stay on for his experience and winnertivity. Leno didn’t move at 26 to be an understudy. I would certainly expect David Ospina to be moved on. He’s never been good enough, he showed how poor he is with a miserable World Cup opener against Japan. It gave me heart to watch Chezzer also gaff hard against Senegal. He’s another keeper who was massively overrated by our fans.

What I love about Leno; outside his ability to make the unexpected saves Arsenal fans have been starved of, is the new layer of options he brings to us defensively. Hoof won’t be the only option, allowing us to transition the ball up the pitch from the back, we’ll also have a keeper who can break the lines with smart passing, as well as a sweeper option if we need it. He’s going to be very useful if he can regain the form that had everyone fluttering eyelashes at him 2 seasons ago.

Also worth noting that form and scouting for keepers is super fucking hard. Confidence and system plays such a massive role in performance. Look at Richard Wright and Jordan Pickford. Both looked exceptional for shite sides, then couldn’t cut it when they made the move up. Ter Stegen, on the other hand, went from relative unknown to winning a lot of big trophies at Barca.

I remember reading Dave Seaman talk about the difference between big and small clubs. He basically said when you play at a big club, it’ll be freezing, you’ll have seen none of the ball all night, then BANG, there’s a 90th minute top corner strike you need to deal with.

His bad season at Leverkusen isn’t the issue, it’s whether he has the focus to make it at an elite side (if all goes well this season and we become elite). Is he Oblak or Karius? Let’s pray this expensive gamble is a lucky one.

Jack Wilshere: how do we feel?

We all feel sad. Jack was the kid that curled home that beauty against West Ham for the kids. The real deal. He was the pugnacious tough guy who took it to Barca. He was our Gazza. Sadly, Wenger blew his body by overplaying him, then the injuries set in and he never recovered.

I can see the difficulties for Jack. Growing up in the spotlight of the English press must have been a nightmare. As with all our Project British players, Wenger never really settled on a position for Jack. The player wanted to play at the base of our midfield like he did for England, Wenger thought he was a #10 or a right midfielder. If you can’t own a position, it’s very hard to develop. I also heard the player wasn’t exactly a fan of Wenger’s ways, which can’t have helped.

It’s difficult to see Jack Wilshere go when we’re offering players like Xhaka new deals. Outside fitness, I can’t see anything the Swiss does better. But it is what it is. We can’t keep waiting on potential, and when money is tight, you have to make important decisions and the club has made their choice.

Question is, who replaces him? Kike Marin has us in for Banega, which feels like a very solid stop gap replacement. However, the Spanish journo also comments that the Argentine is seen as a cheaper option to Torreira, which would be really disappointing. I mean, firstly, Banega is a centre mid, not a defensive mid. Secondly, I’d much rather be investing £20m more in a 22-year-old, than a 29-year-old. Also, Banega broke his leg getting run over by his own car. That’s Gabriel levels of dimness.

Are we really doing this?

Emery: Bringing the band back together

Arsenal confirmed to the press that Jens was off, along with Boro, Peyton, and Banfield. To replace them, the club has basically let Emery bring his entourage with him from PSG.

‘Emery worked alongside Carcedo, Villanueva, strength and conditioning coach Julen Masach, goalkeeping coach Javi Garcia and video analyst Victor Manas at his previous clubs and all of them have made the move over to London Colney.’

This move is really interesting. In the blur of excitement around how well Ivan and his new team are doing, the fact that our CEO let the head coach bring in 5 of his mates without question is amazing. The club is going back on its plan to control the backroom infrastructure, instead, opting to give the new manager a huge amount of power with these hires. Really, when they didn’t need to. Arsenal had all the leverage with the Emery hire. He needed us more than we needed him.

The oddest move has to be in the performance department. I wrote last summer that the hiring of Darren Burgess was really weird as we already had Shad Fosysthe. One is listed at the Head of Performance on the website, the other the Director of High Performance. That’s a cluster fuck right there. Now we have a strength and conditioning coach coming in who is the manager’s confidant.

HOW DOES THAT WORK?

The Director of High Performance will have the report into the manager’s mate by the looks of things. Imagine flying halfway around the world to make an impact in your new job, only to find out you’ll be reporting into somebody who sneaked in the back door because he had mates in high places. It’s the fitness equivalent of Gerard Houllier and Roy Evans sharing duties back in the day.

Broader question here, did the club interview all of the new appointees? Or is it just a wink and nod from Emery that has them in new jobs? More importantly, do any of them speak English? This extract comes from an interview with Emery.

‘Luckily, the French I learned when I was younger helped me out a bit! Of course, I don’t fully master it. One day, I heard Rafael Benitez say that he wasn’t able to transmit everything he wanted to say in English, and that surprised me because he was fluent in English and that he had been living there for 15 years. But he was missing that small percentage which would have allowed him to connect perfectly with his players.

My language proficiency in French was enough to explain myself and to be understood. Of course, one of the most important elements for a coach to succeed lies in his ability to communication and connect with this players. On an emotional level. Furthermore, I tend to talk a lot in the dressing room, even if I brought down the intensity of talks to 60%. But I was able to say what I wanted to in French thanks to the two years of French I had studied in Hondarribia when I was young. My talks with the team were done in entirely in French, and I think that we understood each other and that the language wasn’t a barrier for us.’

How do the club manage the language barriers? Does Emery do what Pep G did, and hire in a Premier League player who can speak Spanish and think at the right level? A Santi like object would have been perfect, but maybe someone like Cesc Fabregas who could end up leaving Chelsea this summer, and has gone on the record to say he’d love to return to Arsenal as a coach, could return in some capacity?

Alternatively, Emery could keep it simple and go with the team he’s kept with him throughout his career. If he chooses that path, that’ll mean the Spanish speaking players will be elevated to leadership like positions. Nacho Monreal, who I think is an exceptional player and human might relish that role. Hector Bellerin might enjoy that as well. The revenge of Lucas Perez could see him return and wreak havoc on the club that dismissed his talents.

I keep talking about the language challenge because the first three months of the job are so important. This paragraph helps give context to what I’m getting at.

One day, Jorge Valdano said, “At Barcelona, the leader is Messi. At Real Madrid, it’s Florentino Perez. At Atletico, it’s Diego Simeone.” A player, a coach and a president. A different kind of leader every time. I know when I’m the main person responsible, and when I’m not. It’s a process that a coach has to live with and internalise, and that he assimilates with time and experience. In every club, you have to know what your role is and what role you have vis-a-vis the rest of the group.

I am of the opinion that PSG’s leader is Neymar. Or that he is currently becoming it. Neymar came to PSG to be the leader, to go through this process to someday become the best in the world. It’s a process that will require a bit more time in order to consolidate this position. At Manchester City, Pep is in charge. At PSG, Neymar has to be.

I think that I managed the dressing room quite well. My greatest satisfaction was that the team didn’t sink, after losing against Barcelona or Real Madrid. A few weeks ago for example, we had a horrible first half against Saint-Étienne, but after the break, with one player sent off, we reacted well and managed to equalise. One of my staff members told me, “Unai, today the players showed that they are with you. If that weren’t the case, we would have lost.”

The notion that players can end you is something new to Arsenal fans. This is something Emery is going to be acutely aware of when he comes to Arsenal. The players at our place couldn’t end Arsene, he was an immovable object. The last two seasons, they pretty much-downed tools, yet the manager was given full backing by the board.

Emery won’t have that luxury. He has a two-year deal, with Arsenal retaining the option to keep him on with a 3rd year if he smashes it. If the players don’t like what they see, or they don’t react well to the violent shock to the system that’s coming, the new man could be in trouble, very quickly.

That’s why he has such a tough job on his hands. Sure, there’s a lot of low hanging fruit to be had, but only a fool would try and harvest it all in one go. If you’ve been in any sort of transformational role at a company, where you’ve taken over a bad team (or watched a bad team taken over), you’ll know that the secret is to work with the people you have and slowly implement your ideas and changes. The dick swingers who wade into big organisations and try to enact an overhaul in weeks, usually come out with egg on their face. They alienate the people working for them, and often those watching in. They miss the good bits and end up making swift exits with their tails between their legs.

Emery is going to have to play a masterful game. He needs to show the board he’s making progress, at the same time, he needs to show the players and backroom peeps he’s a team player. That’s why it’s so interesting the club let him bring in a large backroom team of his mates, versus giving him a team they owned to work with him (the modern structure Ivan promised). If you let him bring in two people, he’s forced to work in a system, if you give him 5 people, that’s a fully formed unit everyone has to abide by straight away.

That’s great if these new guys are easy to work with, troubling if not. As I said the other day, Arsenal are closer to PSG than they are to Sevilla. This excerpt kind of talks through the basic differences.

As a coach, I had the habit of showing players what steps to follow, similar to controlling someone with a joystick. Except that when you come to PSG, you realise that the players are the ones who make the most effective decisions. One day, I told Neymar that, “There are match situations we have worked before the game, but in your case, you imagine those situations by yourself.”

Let’s start from this very basic principle: coaching is very, very, very difficult. From there, coaching excellent players is even more difficult. Why? Because being convincing is the most fundamental thing to coaching: the players have to believe in you. Whether they believe in you because you have won many trophies, because you are a great coach, because you are imposing, because everything you say ends up happening… Whatever the reason may be. But they have to believe in you. And in big teams, the players expect exactly that – for the coach to not to mess up.

That’s also what they expect in a more modest club, but they are also aware of the larger margin of error and that bad results can happen more often. That is not the case with a big team. You have to be right even on the finest of details: your work, your preparation, your principles, your way of speaking, when you decide to speak. Everything is a bit more difficult. Maybe from an external perspective, you may think that you can work less, but it’s the opposite. You have to speak up at the right time, which can help your team win. In a team like PSG, where winning is expected, that is what gives meaning to your actions and what you say. In smaller teams, the results can vary. Here, it’s not the case. You almost always win, and that’s what forces you to hit your target at the right moment. Every time.

Arsenal isn’t PSG, but we still have exceptional players with big egos. Ozil won the World Cup. Aubameyang is one of the best hitmen in Europe. Lacazette is the top scorer in the Europa League. Ramsey thinks he’s Roy of the Rovers. How will Emery deal with a less talented version of PSG, with the same types of egos?

It’s going to be fascinating. I’m too wrapped up in the excitement to worry too much about the politics of the Arsenal training ground, but you have to pay attention to the amount of change going on, how it’s being implemented, who it’s being implemented to, and the role communication is going to play in making those first three months work.

Anyway, I hope you enjoyed that. Have a great day!

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gambon

I will trust Mislintat on the Soyuncu kid.

He looks to have all the ingredients.

I thunk we are trying to get the fee reduced.

No one’s paying £35m for him.

raptora

It is kind of possible that Pedro is taking a few quids in by keeping IG’s name clean and royal in this blog. Maybe Arteta was IG’s idea so Pedro was put to write an article about how it’s the second coming of Jesus. And it’s all because IG has the vision and balls to chase that vision. Interesting thought lol

Bamford10

Leeds

Right, but I already drew a clear line between the healthy, pre-injury Wikshere and the broken, hobbled one we’ve seen over the past few years.

I trust that you agree that the former was a much better footballer than Granit Xhaka.

Marko

Move unto someone else. He’s not worth the hype.

I mean Sven seems to think that he is. But I get your point and agree that the price is too much. For the 35 million quoted what’s to stop us from adding a bit more and signing someone less risky. But considering the amount of movement we seem to be doing in the transfer market I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not just Sokratis and Caglar coming into the defence. Pretty clear Emery isn’t happy with what the previous manager left him with

gambon

Bamford

I like a good argument, but you are the king these days.

You should join the SNP.

Rambo Ramsey

Lolz. How would Arteta bring in 5 of his people? Who would follow him? Maybe more rookies desperate to land a job in management.

Marko

Except that my “track record” is quite good, except for where you and your petty sort distort it in order to score stupid points.

Nah it’s pretty shocking.

I have no problem dismissing anyone who says otherwise.

You’ve no problem whatsoever with dismissing other people’s opinions or knowledge we know that which is rich considering when people bring up your lack of you go into convulsions. Which is true by the way

Bamford10

gambon

I don’t what the SNP is, but I do like to argue.

My politics are way to the left, though, so there’s a chance you’ve misinterpreted my comment to Jamie.

raptora

leeds, since you brought up Diaby. Diaby is one of the top talents in world football that had the world taken away from him because of injuries. Probably not a popular opinion but at his peak he was a dream of a player. Height, long legs, big step, good dribble and touch, real shot and a working brain. Was a regular for the French NT. Could have been our more attacking oriented version of Yaya Toure. Struggling to even compare him to another similar player because his attributes were pretty unique. Maybe a bit more talented Matuidi. And he was… Read more »

Marko

West Ham could outspend us this summer. They seem to be oblivious to the kind of club they are and are going crazy in the transfer window. Especially when you consider that with Lanzini down for a few months they’ve no real sellable assets

Bamford10

Raptora

Agree that Diaby was a genuine talent, but he was broken for so long at Arsenal that it’s almost pointless talking about the genuine quality of the pre-broken Diaby.

Redtruth

The board is still weak and putrid as ever. Emery is calling the shots not Gazidis.

Leedsgunner

Bamford You continually do this, set your own parameters to appear like some guru. If you want to be the smartest person sat in front of your keyboard — fair enough, but why do you have to be so patronising to people you know very little about? Preinjury Wilshere was good but my point is due to Wenger’s mismanagement post-injury Wilshere was who we ended up with. Post injury Wilshere was the person that Arsenal has been paying for at least 10 years. Post injury Wilshere is reality… this super fit healthy Wilshere disappeared after his first season. As for… Read more »

Carts

There’s no doubt in my mind that Pedro is a still salty with the Emery appointment. I mean, he has a bee in his bonnet over this whole language barrier stuff, which I think is a non-starter. Pochettino refused to speak English to the media when he first joined Soton. That changed, somewhat, when he joined Spurs and his English has since improved. Unless, you’re implying that there’s a marginal gain to be had with a fluent English speaking manager as opposed to a manager who doesn’t have the full grasp of the English language. Personally I don’t think it’s… Read more »

Leedsgunner

No doubt, Pep’s letter of recommendation would be worth 50 assistants. Arteta is so good he wouldn’t need any assistants.

Assistants are for ordinary managers like Emery — Arteta is clearly super human. Pedro knows. Ivan told him so. 😉

Marko

Agree that Diaby was a genuine talent, but he was broken for so long at Arsenal that it’s almost pointless talking about the genuine quality of the pre-broken Diaby Pointless to talk about pre injury Diaby but let me talk about pre injury Jack with these tight pants on. Classic example of revisionism once someone has left. Fact is he’s never been good enough never been able to hold down a position never knew his actual position never really that influential. But yeah let’s all pretend that Jack was this once in a generation type talent now that he’s finally… Read more »

Dissenter

Marko
Westham are spending a lot because the owners are afraid of being lyched at home games.
It may also be because the global adult movie industry is at record profits… some of the profits are coming into football.
I hear one of the co-owners made his money in porno.

HighburyLegend

“if Arteta brought in a team of 4/5 people?”
He wouldn’t have bring anyone, the needed staff were already at the club.
(lol)

Carts

Dissenter

West Ham, have a massive help by the fact that their annual stadium repayment are like £2.5m. They got the deal of the century; sadly, their fans don’t think so.

But yeah, based on our revenue compared to West Ham’s there really shouldn’t be any reason why West Ham should outspend us.

Redtruth

Xhaka is not better than Wilshere. All Xhaka does for 90 minutes is exist, meaning he’s a nothing player who contributes zero to the team.

Redtruth

Any Tom, Dick and Harry can spray 60 yard passes.
Xhaka is slow, indicisive and a useless tackler. Begone with Xhaka.

Leedsgunner

Shocked that Real Madrid didn’t appoint Arteta, don’t they know how good he is? Ask Pep, he knows!

Eduardo

Huh my post didn’t appear. CONSPIRACY

Anyway I just wanted to say thanks foe the insights from Emery about what it takes to coach at an elite club. I don’t remember reading anything as interesting from Wenger for, what, the last 10 years

Marko

I hear one of the co-owners made his money in porno.

Yeah dildos.

Great goal by Denmark

Steiner

Pedro

What you’re missing about Emery bringing in his team, is how he works as a manager.
He microanalyses every player, both in training and in games.
His team are part of that, Arsenal, outside of the fitness guys, wouldn’t have equivalents.
His video analyst guy knows what Emery wants.
It simply makes sense to bring him in.
Also if he goes, it’s highly unlikely another coach would use the same process, so it would be no loss to the team for them to go.
They are simply a part of what Emery does.

Chika

Bumford

“Jack at his best was 1000 times the player Xhaka is, just check his ability when he was 12 years old!”

“Jack Wilshere was a much, much, much better footballer than Granit Xhaka, and he showed this in far more than one match.”

No matter how hard you try, nothing you say would ever trump #Neymargate, dipshit!

Jamie

Ironic that when you agree with Bamford, he quotes it in his own defense as evidence of people agreeing with him.

As soon as you disagree with his [hyperbolic] take on Wilshere, you’re out of the circle of trust.

His suggestion that I stick to ‘anti-racism virtue signalling’ is deplorable.

S Asoa

Just arguments. Snap out of it. Wenger is gone

Receding Hairline

Bamford telling people who do not agree with him to leave the blog again i see.

Maybe it’s time for one of those emails to Pedro naming certain posters you would like banned

bennydevito

“gambonJune 21, 2018    12:39:56

Bamford

I like a good argument, but you are the king these days.

You should join the SNP.”

Lol! The mighty g is back in the house!

Isn’t it fun again to be back on le-grove now that Wenger’s finally gone? Maybe some of the other original old boys and gals might make an appearance?

Bamford10

Deplorable! This guy just gets better and better.

I dislike racism just as much as you do, Jamie; the difference is that I don’t think every apparent inequality or injustice in society is a result of racism (or of sexism). The world is more complex than that.

For the moment, I have to leave this discussion there.

Graham62

Wilshere has to leave.

Best for everyone.

Good luck to him.

@B10

Technically yes, JW is a better player.

Physically………….NO WAY!

Jack has the body of a 35 year old. Can’t track, can’t press and is basically an accident waiting to happen when it comes to tackling.

Emery saw this and Jack, deep down, knew his time at Arsenal was up.

raptora

VAR is the best thing that happened to football since the back-pass rule. Cannot imagine suffering another season in EPL without it. It will be such a pain.

bennydevito

Afternoon Grovers, Good post Pedro except I have to disagree about the #EmerysEntourage coming in as it makes total sense to me. They’ve binned off Wenger’s coaches who we all thought were crap and part of the problem and replaced them with a group of people who have worked with Emery to make PSG dominate France domestically at least and are making progress in the right direction in Europe. I don’t think it’s a bad thing especially if it’s true about a language barrier, I think it’s a stroke of genius and with the right sort of experience and leadership… Read more »

JAMES WOOD

Yes i see OLD DEPUTY DOG upsetting everyone again.

Pierre

I’m going to say it..

VAR…. Imagine how many pens we would have been awarded over the years and more importantly, imagine how many of those dodgy pens would not have been awarded.

Pierre

Against us.

Pierre

It has been reported that Arsenal would have been league champions with VAR in operaration the year Leicester won the league.

And surprise surprise… The Premier league are not using var next season… They deliberately made a complete cock up of it last season so they can now carry on as before.

Graham62

Pierre

Give it a break!

Arsene FC would have still managed to cock it up even with VAR.

Champagne charlie

Banford

Care to respond to Jamie rightfully pointing out your double standard?

Distinctly remember you foaming when someone said you know nothing, insults a plenty followed and you tried to justify them because someone questioned your knowledge of football…….but seemingly it’s cool for you to do that to others?

Spell it out, just trying to keep up with the rules of your blog

Graham62

Leicester deserved to win the EPL.

Get over it.

Receding Hairline

“It has been reported that Arsenal would have been league champions with VAR in operaration the year Leicester won the league.”

Bet you were roaring with laughter as you typed this

Carts

Pierre

Please link me to that report…

And also, if the caveat that VaR would’ve rendered Arsenal winners, are we saying that it would’ve rendered the other top 5 team certain losers? cos surely an analysis would have to have been done across all of the big 6 and Leicester..

Graham62

bennydevito

I’ll vote for you.

I also feel Arsenal will surprise a lot of people next season.

Ashwin Gunner

The love – hate relationship of Pedro with Ivan continues…

Every manager needs people whom he can trust and who can work with him. People who have the same vision and understand each others character. There is nothing wrong in Emery bringing over his team as long as they are able to work as a cohesive unit and produce results.

And stop this language thing. Its a non issue

Barking Arsene

So what you are saying is that we should have kept Wenger all along and just used VAR……….

Jamie

Bamford,

I need your take on the complexities of racial and gender bias in the world like I need your take on Neymar’s footballing ability.

Leftsidesanch

Benny,

I quietly share your optimism as well

HighburyLegend

No Var, no (australian) party!!

Graham62

One of the most embarrassing communications on Le Grove –

“It has been reported that Arsenal would have been league champions with VAR in operation the year Leicester won the league”

Why even bother to type it?

gambon

“It has been reported that Arsenal would have been league champions with VAR in operaration the year Leicester won the league.And surprise surprise… The Premier league are not using var next season… They deliberately made a complete cock up of it last season so they can now carry on as before.”

Hahahahahahahahahahahahah

Oh my, the best comment in LG history by far.

Receding Hairline

“I quietly share your optimism as well”

Very quietly indeed considering the company. I was labeled an “Anti-negativity” troll for having positive views about the club.

Here we are all supposed to tip LIverpool for the title and label their new signings the best in Europe.

Marko

It has been reported that Arsenal would have been league champions with VAR in operaration the year Leicester won the league.

Fuck off to untold with that nonsense Pierre.

steve

“It has been reported that Arsenal would have been league champions with VAR in operaration the year Leicester won the league.”

___

What a pathetic petty comment. Typical akb. *sigh*

HighburyLegend

What’s an “operaration” ??

(maybe a food ration when you’re at the opera ??)

gambon

Bennydevito

How are you mate, been a long time!

The renewed optimism and enthusiasm post-Wenger is impressive. Really does show how much he was holding the club back.

HighburyLegend

“It has been reported that Arsenal would have been league champions with a different manager the year Leicester won the league.”

That’s better.

gonsterous

please stop digging at Pierre but then with comments like that, it’s hard to defend the guy.. lmao….

Terraloon

Did VAR prove conclusively that the right descion was made when Australia were awarded their penalty? Ok the ball hit hand but we still are left with the descion being open to debate
What wasn’t up for debate is the fact that there was encroachment by the Australian players and whilst most offences are based on the opinion of the ref entering the box before a penalty kick is taken should result in the kick being retaken if scored .

Marko

At no point were we even close to challenging for the league title the year Leicester won. Don’t let us finishing second fool you they had the title rapped up and were in second gear the last couple weeks of the season and we only pipped Spurs to second because they lost their last game away to Newcastle if I remember correctly. Pierre you are shameless I swear

gambon

Remember when those utter loons over at Untold Arsenal started reviewing refereeing performances, and found that Arsenal were by far the most unfairly treated team in the PL.

In fact they came to the conclusion that the ONLY team the refs hated was Arsenal.

Imagine that. A blog full of mentally ill Arsenal fans find that only their team is unfairly treated.

WengerEagle

Ah yes, the old ref conspiracy paranoid nutters crawling out the woodwork.

First was that the refs only wanted United to win the league, that argument got a bit awkward once Chelsea started winning it (5 times), then once Man City (3 times) and Leicester also won the league the narrative shifted to refs purely hating and having it out for specifically Arsenal.

Never Wenger’s fault.

Marko

In fact they came to the conclusion that the ONLY team the refs hated was Arsenal.Imagine that. A blog full of mentally ill Arsenal fans find that only their team is unfairly treated.

Was either that or admit Wenger was a shite manager

raptora

I’m honestly not that surprised that Australia has outplayed Denmark, but that they have looked way better physically than the Danes. #kangaroo

WengerEagle

Australia were a bit fortunate with the penalty decision but they’ve played really good stuff today, deserve a point.

Elmo

Gambon

The funniest thing about it was that they marketed it as being objective on the basis that it was carried out by qualified referees. They didn’t see the problem with the vast majority of those refs being both Arsenal fans and readers of Untold!

gambon

Elmo,

Exactly.

Everyone thinks their club gets bad decisions. Its basic human bias.

Frank Mc

How are Wales getting on?

Rambo Ramsey

Pierre lands his bait and everyone loses their mind

BillikenGooner

“I give you an example when Robin van Persie joined Man United,” Evra said. “First of all when he came I said ‘welcome to a proper team, a man team, not a baby team. And he laughed, but he understood straight away. “I remember him saying ‘Patrice, to be fair, I just feel like now I’m playing for a big team because all of you win many trophies, many medals, and you still go in the gym before training, going in the gym after training.’ http://www.espn.com/soccer/arsenal/story/3537178/manchester-uniteds-patrice-evra-mocked-baby-team-arsenal-when-robin-van-persie-left I have a feeling for the last 10 years our training has consisted of… Read more »

Leftsidesanch

I think “Pierre”/Paul should just be ignored with statements like that.

Dream10

Really good performance by Aaron Mooy.

Terraloon

Gambon

Their whole process was flawed but hey why let get in the way of them drawing all sorts of conclusions from their subjective approach .
The more I read untold the easier it is to see why so many become brain washed be it in matters religion or indeed politics.

Bamford10

Dream

Yeah, I haven’t seen today’s game yet, but I was impressed with him the other day against France.

qna

I should be happy, but feel like we needed that little bit of luck today if we were going to sneak past this group stage.

Best outcome for us would be a Peru beat France and then force France to beat Denmark. We then rely on a 2-0 win against Peru, or any win against Peru and a Denmark win against France.

Jamie

CC – No chance Bamford acknowledges his staggering hypocrisy: Bamford10 March 28, 2018 10:30:28 WE Yeah, I was irritated, and with good reason. Say what you like, but the worst insult you can direct towards someone else here is ‘you know nothing about football.’ This remark is far more insulting than any curse word. And I’ve apologized for my curse words. Have you apologized for suggesting I know nothing about the game? No. — Bamford10 June 21, 2018 12:19:23 Jamie “Wilshere controlled one game in his entire senior career (almost 10 years now). Xhaka might not be a great player,… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Jamie

Seems you have an apology owed…

azed

“Remember when those utter loons over at Untold Arsenal started reviewing refereeing performances, and found that Arsenal were by far the most unfairly treated team in the PL.”

Nothing can beat the untold post about Wenger selling Cesc to Barca to bankrupt Barcelona. I’m not sure there’s a word to describe how stupidly insane that post was.

WengerEagle

Lol ,he’ll be waiting a while for that…

Victorious

“It’s quite obvious to me that we won’t qualify for the champions league next season and unlikely”

Eh, Ishola u were saying?

WengerEagle

I’m still 50-50 on whether Untold is simply the greatest internet troll job ever executed by United fans taking the piss out of us.

azed

WE
“I’m still 50-50 on whether Untold is simply the greatest internet troll job ever executed by United fans taking the piss out of us.”

I think untold is written by Wenger. Its the next level shit.

Marko

Much more likely to make a wager than offer up an apology

Jamie

CC & WE

His own standards demand it.

Marko

Be interesting to see how Pavard does today

Bamford10

Yes, Jamie, but in your case what I said was true. You clearly do not know much about football if you think Jack Wilshere was no better a footballer than Granit Xhaka. On the other hand, my claim that Neymar has yet to demonstrate that he can be THE decisive player in the biggest of big matches is somewhere between absolutely true and debatable. In no way, shape or form does my claim suggest that I don’t know the game. Yours does. See how that works? If you want me to apologize for insulting your football intelligence, prove that you… Read more »

salparadisenyc

How we feeling about DD starting XI?

Receding Hairline

“IMHO”

*Cringe* …nothing remotely humble about your opinions

Leedsgunner

Talking about football knowledge wasn’t there a regular contributor who thought Wales was playing at this year’s World Cup?

Who was that again?

salparadisenyc

Griezmann needs to find his boots, what a chance.

TR7

Or possibly he won’t show up for a few hours and then will jump in to some other discussion pretending Jamie exposing his double standards didn’t even happen.

TR7

Oh so in his HUMBLE opinion, there was no double standards. Makes Trump look like a gentleman.

PessimisticPat

Why the negativity on banega? 15m for a 30year old nowadays is like 4-5m a few years ago.
I feel like arsenal fans have been brainwashed into only thinking in terms of money and sell on value. How about we think about what a player can offer us on the pitch. It’s not like we have ever had a lot of luck in the past with selling players on for profit.
If we had a squad full of talent I would see it as unnecessary but with elneny maitland as back up id welcome banega

Bamford10

TR7

It should be, “there WERE no double standards,” — and no, there weren’t.

Marko

You clearly do not know much about football if you think Jack Wilshere was no better a footballer than Granit Xhaka. You clearly know nothing about football outside of what Gab Marcotti tells you. What do you expect from someone who took 20 years to decide what team to support. On the other hand, my claim that Neymar has yet to demonstrate that he can be THE decisive player in the biggest of big matches is somewhere between absolutely true and debatable El classicos. Copa del Rey semi finals and finals. Champions league semi finals and a final. All big… Read more »

TR7

Gab Marcotti, articles on web and Paulinho’s posts

Marko

Some people here are honestly a waste of the blog’s time. They get everything wrong, they make bad arguments, they’re here largely to troll, they’re petty and dishonest.

You honestly need to fuck off at this point you take over so much of the blog with your limited football knowledge

azed

“You honestly need to fuck off at this point you take over so much of the blog with your limited football knowledge”

I thought it was the more the merrier?

salparadisenyc

Pogba showing his mettle for country, on a blinder.

Marko

It should be, “there WERE no double standards,” — and no, there weren’t.

That’s all you’ve got left isn’t it picking up on someone’s grammar. You can have it mate it’s not like you’re going to beat anyone around here with your soccer knowledge