Diamond Eyes close to landing DM and GK, but who is he selling?

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Good things come to those who wait, and f*ck me Arsenal fans, we’ve waited a long time for a good summer.

It hasn’t landed yet, but it feels like we’re making progress early in the window and it’s looking very exciting.

David Ornstein can usually afford to go on holiday for most oftransfer window when it comes to Arsenal, but he’s already out there tweeting that we’re in for Lucas Torreira and a goalkeeper. The good money is going on Bernd Leno to fill that position. That’ll mean we’ll have taken two targets from under the nose of Napoli.

The keeper is a very important signing. 2013-14, Leno saved 5 of 8 penalties, so that’s good news. He has sharp reactions, he makes some pretty spectacular saves, and through some extensive research I’ve been doing this week, he looks like he has a good range of passing. I’ve watched him take the ball around strikers, I’ve seen him dink chips over the press and he’s super fast at making decisions.

Petr Cech has been a great servant to the club, but we picked him up after his peak. The goalkeeping game has moved on and successful clubs need to have a keeper who is good with the ball at their feet. We don’t have to play sweeper keeper, but the advantage of having another outlet at the back is immense. How many times have we watched Arsenal concede possession because the only option for Cech is a monster hoof up the pitch?

There’s some scepticism around Leno, Bundesliga pundit Fjortoft had this to say.

“Bernd Leno to Arsenal seems to be just around the corner.

“Was a great talented keeper. It’s fair to say he hasn’t “taken the next step”.

“But a move to England can be good for him.”

I’m not sure we’re in the money leagues to compete for the best in the game. I’d love us to bring in Atleti’s Jan Oblak or Allison from Roma. Reality is, those names demand Champions League money, and sadly, we don’t have that this season. If we do sign Leno, we’re taking a punt on potential that sounds a little like it’s stalled.

On the midfielder role,Torreira is EXACTLY the sort of player Wenger used to pick up back in the day. On the way to being elite… a touch like the time we signed Freddie Ljungberg before he blew up. We’re signing the future of defensive midfield. Remember the days when Arsenal fans were telling everyone that the defensive midfield role didn’t really exist? Muppets. I’m glad we’re solving a problem we’ve had for years, with the right tool. We’ve been so bad at defensive midfielders. Denilson, Flamini, Alex Song to name a few. We signed Xhaka thinking he was box to box, then when Wenger realised he had the pace of a mobility scooter, he jammed him in the deep-lying role despite him having no defensive attributes.

I mean, there really are questions over what the club do with Xhaka. I’m not sure there’s much hope for him. In an Arsenal team that’ll be all about pressing and tactical discipline, I’m unsure how he’ll feet, especially if we sign Torreira. Hopefully, he’ll have a good World Cup, maybe there’s a path back to Germany for him. This is another great thing about the new regime, if something isn’t working on the pitch, we’ll just move the player on. One of the worst parts of the backend of Wenger’s tenure was his inability to own up to a mistake and make a tough decision.

Xhaka has been one of the worst signings of the last 10 years. He’s offered up almost nothing in midfield, and I’ve never seen a player make so many mistakes, so consistently. Give me Torreira, with cover from AMN and I’d be more than happy with that moving forward. Our midfield needs to be based on high energy, fast, powerful player. They obviously need to be technical, but one of the key things our starting 11 has lacked is power. That looks like it’s about to change.

Arsenal are doing a lot of work to bring players in, I’m very interested to see who leaves to balance the books? Ospina? Cech? What happens to Welbeck if he won’t sign? Do we keep Lacazette? Are the club keen on the bloated squad? This is going to be a very disruptive summer. Plenty more to come, and maybe even a shock to the fans at some point.

Some additional backroom news, Freddie Ljungberg is BACK at the club, managing the under 23 team. If you remember correctly, he took an ill-fated job with Joncker at Wolfsburg. He’s now back where he belongs. Good luck to him, it’s truly special to have so many explayers making their way back to Arsenal!

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452 Responses to “Diamond Eyes close to landing DM and GK, but who is he selling?”

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  1. Eduardo

    Welp I don’t see us getting cash for anyone (who we’d be prepared to sell) bar Xhaka-Laca, or Mustafi. The dross of the Wenger era IE Ospina Welbz etc should be moved on for whatever we can get, ergo released. Oh do we still have Campbell and Cpl Jenko on the books too?

  2. Marko

    West Ham signing Issa Diop from Toulouse. Very good defender 22 million probably a better deal than Caglar at 30 million

  3. Marc

    Eduardo

    Borough offered us over £20 million for Chambers last summer, Welbeck would have the English premium even with only a year left especially if he has a decent world cup.

    There’s a good £30 – £40 million kicking round the squad without the players you mentioned.

  4. HHW

    We certainly live in interesting times as Arsenal fans but for me, confirmation that AMN has been signed on a long term contact yesterday may well prove to be the best signing of the summer!

  5. Uwot?

    Ideally this would be the taxi list:Cech ,Mustafi ,bel end,Xhaka,wilts,Rambo (if doesn’t sign soon)Campbell,corporal jenks,welbz,Perez.at least 10 or so to dump.regret won’t all happen this window.

  6. Rambo Ramsey

    ‘Xhaka has been one of the worst signings of the last 10 years. He’s offered up almost nothing in midfield, and I’ve never seen a player make so many mistakes, so consistently’

    Excellent post, Pedro.

  7. Receding Hairline

    @ Marko

    How extensively have you watched Diop play..ditto Caglar…..how do you decide who is a better deal at what price??

    Follow up question ..was Virgil Van Dyke a good deal at 75m??

  8. WengerEagle

    CC

    These fees imo are getting exaggerated, don’t get me wrong the market has gone mad but the Barca transfer activity last summer was more the exception than the new rule.

    You have extremely highly rated AND young midfielders and forwards in Bernardo Silva, Mo Salah, Fabinho, Naby Keita (defenders are nearly always easier to obtain for less) going for under 50 million pounds so find it hard to believe that a Skriniar would cost 60 million.

    Maybe Koulibaly because Napolis owner is a nutter, but others I mentioned could certainly be bought for between the 30-50 million bracket imo.

    Soyuncu at 30 million is a huge risk and even if it pays off, were unlikely to reap the benefits for a season or two at least.

  9. Olumide

    I don’t really fancy Leno. If he can’t make Germany’s world cup squad after making appearances for them in the past, that’s not good…

  10. Receding Hairline

    “I don’t really fancy Leno. If he can’t make Germany’s world cup squad after making appearances for them in the past, that’s not good…”

    So you fancy him more watching him sitting on the German bench ?? Guess u do not fancy Leroy Sane either since he isn’t going

  11. Dissenter

    “I don’t really fancy Leno. If he can’t make Germany’s world cup squad after making appearances for them in the past, that’s not good…”

    The goal keepers ahead of him are Manual Neuer [Bayern Munich], Ter stergen [Barcelona] and Kevin Trapp [PSG]
    It’s perfectly understandable why he didn’t make the German squad.

  12. Ishola70

    At this stage Diop has better concentration levels and discipline than Caglar.

    Caglar is overall more dynamic. Has more striking pace.

    The reason that Arsenal sign Caglar over Diop is that he is a better all round footballer than Diop. Not sure how important that is at CB but there it is.

    Diop is more a stopper Caglar more refined player.

  13. Champagne charlie

    Weagle
    With respect I don’t think you can look at a player like Skriniar and claim he’s a bonafide 50 mil defender. Defenders are few and far between at the very top level, and I’m comfortable with us opting for someone with massive potential.

    Koulibaly would be great, Gimenez obviously too. Both are costing more than 50 mil. Beyond that you’re reaching imo.

    Pedro
    Ehh I’ve seen the commentaryalong those lines, but Leno has been considered an elite talent since 18. Karius had a couple of good seasons in the Bundesliga statistically. I’m also confident he comes in as an upgrade to what we have. Plus 3 years from now, if he’s not done the business, we’re getting that money back at worst with a 29 year old.

  14. Marko

    I was thinking more both are highly rated young defenders ones going for 22 million the other 30 million. I mean much of a muchness I suppose

  15. Marko

    It’s very possible that we’re going for another defender no? With Sokratis coming in (Kos replacement?) And Caglar joining soon and the expectation that Mustafi and Chambers will be sold it’s basically two coming in but we’d be down three with Kos being practically finished.

  16. gambon

    Dont think clean sheets is a great way to judge a GK, thats more a reflection of an entire team.

    Not sure how easy it is to statistically judge GKs.

    You would need to look at their save rates in conjunction with the quality of shots faced.

    Maybe an xG saved type figure. Even that wouldnt do it.

  17. Champagne charlie

    Leno has been criticised for mistakes, does anyone know what these mistakes come in the form of?

  18. Doublethink

    Is Soyuncu supposed to be good? I’m not gonna pretend I’ve seen him play but a 6.6 rating on WhoScored would suggest he’s not worth the quoted price tag?

  19. gambon

    Marko

    I think one of Mustafi or Chambers will stay.

    Then maybe go in the future if Koscielny makes an adequate recovery.

  20. DaleDaGooner

    d Kevin Trapp [PSG]
    It’s perfectly understandable why he didn’t make the German squad.

    Trapp was riding the bench in place of Areola….i am trying to see how Leno got dropped and Trapp is going, must be Leno isn’t as good as what we would like to believe….

    Contrary to popular demand here, I see a better manager using Xhaka properly. come on! we all thought there was a player there when he first arrived, his youtube videos were exceptional.

  21. Champagne charlie

    Am I the only one not bowled over by Alisson Becker?

    He’s been in Europe 2 seasons and spent the entire first season on the bench behind Szczesny. Don’t try and tell me one season as Roma’s first choice makes you a 60 mil GK….

  22. DaleDaGooner

    Players who have played well away from Arsenal, Xhaka (plays exceptionally well for Switzerland), Iwobi (plays very well for Nigeria)

  23. qna

    I think Leno will be a good signing. I expect our keeper to not be prone to mistakes or bad decisions. I have seen Leno do both so it’s not without risk. I think he has shown world class qualities and I hope that he is ready to take the next step. He is a good age and he has plenty of experience now. I think Emery will organise our defence well enough so there will be no excuses for Leno.

    The thing is we have so much investment to make. It’s pointless spending all that we have on a top keeper. I wouldn’t be advocating spending 40m+ on Leno. But for 20m it’s a good decision for now. If he gets back to his form of a few years ago and continues to improve he will be a great bit of business.

  24. DaleDaGooner

    Am I the only one not bowled over by Alisson Becker? He’s been in Europe 2 seasons and spent the entire first season on the bench behind Szczesny. Don’t try and tell me one season as Roma’s first choice makes you a 60 mil GK….

    He was balls versus Liverpool

  25. Champagne charlie

    Marc

    Haha dick.

    Does Leno come with a certain susceptibility do you know? Perennial dropper of crosses etc?

  26. Marko

    Leno is the third best German keeper. No idea why Low took Trapp who played 13 games last season over Leno who played what 30+. He’s a ball sniffer who makes stupid decisions sometimes

  27. Champagne charlie

    Dale

    Agree about Xhaka, not going to say anything else as he’s been flogged to death. But Emery is a clean slate for all and I expect to see more from him, and others.

  28. Marko

    Contrary to popular demand here, I see a better manager using Xhaka properly. come on! we all thought there was a player there when he first arrived, his youtube videos were exceptional.

    He’s basically why you should never trust a YouTube montage.

  29. Champagne charlie

    National team selection is a hell of a metric to use when judging a players quality.

    Almost totally meaningless imo.

  30. Emiratesstroller

    Pedro

    I am not sure why you believe that Arsenal’s first team squad is bloated even factoring in the loanees who are coming back.

    Our first team squad will be at the end of June quite short of numbers following retirement of Mertesacker and departure on Bosman of Cazorla, Campbell and most probably Wilshire.

    Koscielny is out until the end of the year and I suspect that the loanees such
    as Jenkinson, Perez and Akpom will be offloaded as I don’t see much likelihood
    of them playing again for Arsenal. The only loanee who might conceivably return since he has apparently played quite well in France is Reine-Adelaide.

    The million dollar question is who might be sold to generate some additional
    funds assuming that we are bringing in let’s say four new players. My guess is
    that Ospina will leave albeit for a small transfer fee. I don’t see Cech generating funds at age of 35 going on 36 and we should remember that Abramovich
    sanctioned sale to us, because the player wanted to stay with his family in London.

    If we buy two Centre Backs then I think that we will probably offload either
    Mustafi or Chambers. Also I could see Holding sent out on loan. I cannot see
    Arsenal keeping more than 4 centre backs on the books excluding Koscielny.

    The only two players apart from Wilshire who might be offloaded are in my
    view Ramsey or Welbeck unless they sign new contracts. It is highly unlikely
    that the club will risk losing another two players on Bosmans when they are reaching their playing peak.

  31. Receding Hairline

    “Trapp was riding the bench in place of Areola….i am trying to see how Leno got dropped and Trapp is going, must be Leno isn’t as good as what we would like to believe….”

    How many games do you reckon Trapp will play?? I ask again is sitting on the bench for your country such a great indicator of how good you are??

  32. Olumide

    Receding
    So you fancy him more watching him sitting on the German bench ?? Guess u do not fancy Leroy Sane either since he isn’t going

    Leno had his opportunity in the German team. He fluffed it. Leroy Sane isn’t going because he wasn’t performing for Germany and has a bad attitude.

  33. Marko

    What mistake? Not great goalkeeping in the clip but there was a deflection on the free kick at the end of the video

  34. Major_Jeneral

    I think we should all calm down for now and give leno a chance. We must give him time to adapt. I remember years ago when De gea arrived in England, he did not perform that good in the first season but did just fine in the next season. And the rest is history. One thing we will get with Leno is his technical abilities and confidence in front of goal so let us wait and see how it goes.

    As regards Xhaka let see what happens during preseason. that could be a good indicatior if he still has a role to play at arsenal.

  35. Ishola70

    First mistake first Aussie goal he lets the ball go straight through him. Not good goalkeeping.

    Second mistake yes the ball took a deflection but it’s what would be seen as a nice deflection for the keeper straight to him into his body, not travelling at any great speed but he shovels it out for some reason.

    This guy gets the jitters. Pretty agile for a big guy though.

  36. Receding Hairline

    “Leno had his opportunity in the German team. He fluffed it. Leroy Sane isn’t going because he wasn’t performing for Germany and has a bad attitude.”

    Don’t understand what you are driving at here

    1> Leno is not a better goal keeper that Manuel Neuer or Ter Stegan so cannot really remember when or how he fluffed his chance

    2 Sane has no problem attitude wise, Brandt was just preferred to him, it was a personal choice mad by Loew…stop making stuff up

  37. Dissenter

    Some countries just have a glut of talent …period.
    There are many super talented Brazilians that never geta call-up as are French players these days.
    Germany have four good keepers that made the preliminary squad…only three can get called.

  38. Marko

    As regards Xhaka let see what happens during preseason. that could be a good indicatior if he still has a role to play at arsenal.

    Pre season isn’t a good indicator of nothing. Can’t we judge his performances the last two seasons instead

  39. zaco

    Marko

    “West Ham signing Issa Diop from Toulouse. Very good defender 22 million probably a better deal than Caglar at 30 million”

    the other player is always better than whoever Arsenal signs. should arsenal sign Messi today some people will ask why not Ronaldo

  40. mysticleaves

    Haven’t really understood the idea behind signing Calgar Soyunucu. He’s been average at best for his current club. Doesn’t scream world class. Chambers has even performed better than the Turk lad. I prefer keeping Chambers to signing Calgar

  41. mysticleaves

    Exactly zaco. We buy the cheaper option Marko quip why not the expensive one, we buy the more expensive one Marko quips why not the cheaper one. lol.

  42. qna

    “2 Sane has no problem attitude wise, Brandt was just preferred to him, it was a personal choice mad by Loew…stop making stuff up”

    Loew may have cost Germany the World Cup. Sane is a massive loss to them and the tournament. They will go deep in the tournament but if they don’t win it and it’s due to lack of creativity across the front then questions will be asked if that decision.

  43. Emiratesstroller

    It seems to me that there are some posters on here who would like to see Arsenal offload their entire squad. They appear to make negative comments on virtually every player in our team.

    Let’s make a judgment once the new coach has an opportunity to get the players properly organised and fit for next season.

  44. qna

    “It seems to me that there are some posters on here who would like to see Arsenal offload their entire squad. They appear to make negative comments on virtually every player in our team.”

    To be fair, I made those negative comments before most of those players came in or were persisted with for so long after they clearly didn’t have the goods.

    Considering our recent history of being deserving of a Europa league team your opinion that they are better than this is not based on any evidence. The evidence of how these players perform against the top 6, or in Europe against the big teams is clear and overwhelming.

  45. qna

    “Haven’t really understood the idea behind signing Calgar Soyunucu. He’s been average at best for his current club. ”

    I am giving the benefit of the doubt to Sven on all young player signings. His track record is outstanding.

  46. Graham62

    DaleDaGonner

    There is one reason why both Xhaka and Iwobi play better away from Arsenal.

    Thankfully, for everyones benefit, that reason is no longer around.

  47. gambon

    I think you have to give Mislintat a bit of trust regarding Soyuncu.

    I think we all agree Mavropanos for £2m is good business, so if hes willing to spend £30m or so on a CB, there must be a reason.

    He looks to have all the ingredients, even if his game hasnt quite come together yet.

    If you look at Wenger signings like Holding & CHambers, they are hugely flawed players that dont have the raw ingredients to be great. For years Wenger just wouldnt accept the realities of the game.

  48. Champagne charlie

    Dissenter
    I think that’s a stretch to criticise it that harshly, should’ve done better but Lloris and co have done that numerous times this season. When I think mistake, I’m thinking howler.

    That’s sloppy more than anything in my book, tend to think people have this mystical idea behind what a Gk should be capabale of.

    Is it handling where his mistakes occur?

    Qna
    Seen that one a lot lately, very little blame on him for me. Casual perhaps, but that’s a shit backpass between the goal posts coupled with a bobble.

  49. Champagne charlie

    I echoe Gambons sentiments here, there’s some trust that Sven needs to be given. Plus it’s rare that a talent is clear and obvious from young to maturity.

    Sure there may be better 22 year olds than Caglar right now, but that isn’t to say he won’t be twice the other player at 24

  50. Emiratesstroller

    qna

    I think that you will discover that quite a few of our squad will improve under the direction of a new Head Coach.

    Arsenal were treading water the last few seasons, because there was very little
    organisation and discipline at the club. It had become a “holiday camp”.

    Let’s judge players properly under a new regime. I am fairly certain that the
    new football management will give players a chance to prove themselves and
    offload those who fail to make the grade.

  51. champagne charlie

    Dale

    I like his qualities, strikes me as a rough Veratti/Mascherano type of midfielder. Good with both feet, incredibly good use of his body, diligent, and technically sound, also seems to have that South American honesty about him where he lives for the game and just wants to succeed.

  52. DaleDaGooner

    Is it me or is anyone else annoyed by Arsenal.com patronizing with the “media watch” transfer rumor announcements?

  53. DaleDaGooner

    fair enough charlie, i like the fella already….hopefully he won’t be dead and buried here after a few games.

  54. Marko

    Fair enough. Sven you get the benefit of the doubt. It’s his look that worries me you know. Looks like a wino who conned people into thinking he’s a scout. Like Michael Cera conned people into thinking he’s an actor and now he’s just rolling with it

  55. Leedsgunner

    Bayern selling Boteng. What is their valuation? Probably too rich for us but it would be nice to think our club had a surprise up its sleeve…

    Sigh

  56. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    So what is xhara then

    Liverpool were interested in signing him before us.?

    Is he an cam ?

    Or would he be better in a sweeper role?

  57. Marko

    Boateng generally plays 30-40+ games a season bar two years ago he played 21 games in a season. He’s hardly Kompany levels of broken. Still though I personally wouldn’t

  58. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Surely xhara deserves a chance to shine in his favoured role.?

    Otherwise it’s hard to judge him.

  59. Alex Cutter

    “I think that you will discover that quite a few of our squad will improve under the direction of a new Head Coach.”

    Is that what your connections at the club told you when they personally replied to the email you sent them? You know, the same personal reply where they intimated that they were going to sign an “insider” as the the next manager? Like Arteta?

  60. Dissenter

    “Boeteng is made of rice paper, there’s a reason they’re getting rid.”

    More like tissue paper on contact with water.
    He’s had his sojourn in England already…it wasn’t exactly gold.

  61. englandsbest

    You are right, we rarely, if ever, see anything remotely impressive from Xhaka – and yet I am not sure.

    I’m not sure because Wenger paid a lot of money for him, grabbed him with such a flourish, as if he’d stolen a march on everyone, surely, surely there must be something good about the player. And he wasn’t a last-minute panic buy. And what about the feedback from his scouts, the video evidence, and so on?

    Our best hope is that Wenger was even worse than we thought he was. In other words, Xhaka is a decent footballer, given a decent manager.

    That’s why I’d like to see how he does under Emery.

  62. KAY Boss

    some just don’t like what we sign. I’m in my ‘corner’ hoping for the best. IMO I think each player left in this squad deserves to get a look at by the new gaffer. torreira is in I guess. martins or any next?

  63. Marc

    gambon

    Holding doesn’t have the right ingredients to be a great? He’d played 20 minutes of first team football for Bolton when we signed him, since then he’s had a complete lack of defensive training and coaching.

    The number of people on here who state opinions (and often either daft or uninformed at that) as facts is stunning. Let’s see how he does under a new manager before casting him off as “worthless”

  64. Marc

    RSPC

    I don’t get this urge to get rid of every player we have. It’s like a fucking religious purge for some – anyone or anything that has anything to do with Wenger should be got rid of. They’ll be telling is the Emirates isn’t fit for purpose before long, which is quite surreal bearing in mind most of them have never or will never get close to going to a match.

  65. DaleDaGooner

    MarcJune 13, 2018 19:23:43
    RSPCI don’t get this urge to get rid of every player we have. It’s like a fucking religious purge for some – anyone or anything that has anything to do with Wenger should be got rid of. They’ll be telling is the Emirates isn’t fit for purpose before long, which is quite surreal bearing in mind most of them have never or will never get close to going to a match.
    It has already been said that Emirates isn’t fit for purpose.

  66. Marko

    I don’t get this urge to get rid of every player we have. It’s like a fucking religious purge for some

    Not really more a case of logical thinking for some. Bellerin’s been average for two years. Cech and Mustafi are error prone. Xhaka hasn’t been good the two years he’s been here. Welbeck would he lucky to get you 9 goals in a season. I mean if you want these players given more time that’s one thing but you’re suggesting some people want rid of some of these players for fits and giggles. There’s a reason they haven’t performed

  67. Marc

    Sal

    The stadium there is hysterical – did a work conference there a year ago or so. 3 largish stands and then at one end this what looks like the main stand from pub team – the local residents complained about light loss!

  68. Guns of SF

    Where are we with this Rabiot talk.
    PSG needing to sell 60M euros worth of players on BBC

    Still dreaming of Rabiot and Torreira in CM
    Sell Zhaka and Rambo

    Gelson on the wing

    I like our new looks midfield

  69. Marc

    Marko

    You named 5 players. Cech is at the end of his career but wouldn’t be terrible backup for a season. Bellerin needs to be given a chance under proper guidance something he’s never had at Arsenal, Xhaka I’ve already said I don’t think has the right qualities for the PL, Mustafi I can’t make my mind up whether we should give a season to or not – would depend on what we could get for him. Welbeck with a year left and the English premium would be worth selling in my book.

    Out of a squad of 25 odd players that’s a handful gone / going – my point was why go after youth players at this stage? Too many on here just want to have something to bitch about no matter what.

    With the players that we’re linked to ie keeper, DM another CB poss a winger, if they come off will you feel we have had a positive summer?

  70. TheBayingMob

    Thoughts on Torreira?“

    Yar I’m surprised he’s not being talked about more on here. I don’t know much about him so would like to hear some opinions …

  71. Guns of SF

    Baying
    I see Torriera as a more defensive Santi.
    Small, quick feet, but not as offensive- more a defensive player but not a pure DM

  72. qna

    Emirates: I think that you will discover that quite a few of our squad will improve under the direction of a new Head Coach.

    Improve. Yes. Jump up from being a mid table level player to a top level player no. You can put a line through Welbeck and Elneny. I have put a line through Iwobi, but I accept that may be premature. I don’t hold much hope for Mustafi, Chambers, Holding, or Xhaka. But I do expect them to be much better. We won’t have City or United banging down our door with big offers for them though.

    Mkhitariyan is what he is. He isn’t elite. He will get his fair share of goals and assists. But we will lose big games because he will be one of many that are collectively not good enough.

    Lacazette will score goals. I have never denied that. But so does Jermaine Defoe. So does Giroud for that matter. But Guys like these don’t have the quality to win you the games you need to win league titles. I think Lacazette is a fine squad striker. But your top striker needs to be the difference and win you the big games. It’s beyond him. We can spend a few years to prove the point. We have done it before with Podolski, Giroud, Chamack etc. I didnt need 2 or 3 seasons to see it. Apparently most fans need to give the club the benefit of the doubt on every signing they make because they are loyal and I am not. So be it.

  73. Bamford10

    Many people here already discussed and gave Torreira a stamp of approval 4-5 days ago. He’s sort of old news in a way. I don’t mean that in a snarky way; it’s just true.

  74. Bamford10

    Torreira is a little like Verratti. Not quite as much class, but quick, skillful, a tackler, a battler. Should be a good holding mid for us.

  75. Freddie Ljungberg

    Reports that Arsenal representatives are flying out to Russia with Torreiras agent to get the contract signed before the WC starts.
    Could be bullshit but would be ideal, if he has a great tournament there would be a lot more competition for him.

  76. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Marc
    Red

    I would like to see holding n chambers given a chance

    When hey played for England yoot been v good

    With dick they could come on leaps and bounds ,,,

    Yer right Marc every plater deserves a chance

  77. Freddie Ljungberg

    The more I see of Gelson Martins the more I like him, would definitely add something we don’t have on the wing, explosive pace and dribbling. He’s not my first choice but if we could get him for a bargain fee because of the turmoil at sporting we should go for it. He’s a bit raw but has the ingredients.

    Ideally we need 2 players like this but it’s not going to happen in 1 window so getting one in now is good.

    If we flog Welbeck and only have to add a couple of mil for Martins it would be a great bit of business.

  78. Brooklyn

    Re: Torreira,
    I like his one touch passing between the lines. None(especially Ramsey) of our CM’s have capability to play regular and accurate one touch passes. That is what I liked about Elneny, but Torreira adds more of a ball winning instinct, and goes more often for vertical passes for offensive transition. Should see how his transition to Premier league goes.

  79. Marko

    All well and good being in for Gelson given his situation but how could we not be in for Bruno Fernandez as well. Absolutely fantastic midfielder good for goals and assists. Basically saving yourself 50-60 million in the future

  80. Freddie Ljungberg

    Psg needs to raise 60 million euro by the end of this month or get punished for over spending.

    Rabiot, Draxler/Guedes?

    Would love a Rabiot Torreira CM pairing, defensive ability and passing for days.

  81. Carts

    I read that Guedes to valencia is as good as done for €40m.

    To be honest, I can’t see how PSG will struggle to raise the necessary funds.

    Ben Arfa, Pastore & Guedes will raise them c.€80m I reckon.

  82. Freddie Ljungberg

    They’re packed with talent that barely gets a look in, of course they’re not going to struggle to raise the money.

    We should still be in for Rabiot though imo. He wants to leave, and the mooted price tag of around 30m is a bargain for a player of his calibre.

    Would rather we got an extra CM in instead of an extra CB, assuming the Sokratis and Torreira deals come through.
    Ideally both of course.

    Think our midfield has been our real weakness for years and is where we could make the most gains with some smart signings.

  83. Carts

    I’d be open to Rabiot.

    But surely that means we should cash in on elneny and release Wilshere?

    Torreira, Xhaka, Ramsey, AMN, *Rabiot isn’t bad.

  84. Marko

    Martial wants out it seems. Prefer Guedes or Fekir but wouldn’t mind getting a decent player from United for or at least one they’d be loathe to sell to us

  85. Freddie Ljungberg

    Elmeny is a squad player on low wages. We would get very little for him, and 0 for Wilshere.

    We also can’t have 4 CMs earning over 100k a week each. I would sell Xhaka in a heartbeat to finance Rabiot. Would have to add some money but should be able to get around 20m for Xhaka.

  86. Marko

    Exactly Freddie can’t keep them all. Which begs the question for the Ramsey and Xhaka fanboys out there would you prefer to keep Ramsey/Xhaka at the expense of someone like Rabiot or would you prefer a Rabiot.

  87. Carts

    Realistically flogging Xhaka isn’t going to happen. In a drilled system I think he can be more effective.

    I’d like to see Ramsey—-Torreira—-Xhaka as that’s as good as it’s get till jan 2019

  88. Carts

    Marko

    I’d flogged both Ramsey and Xhaka tomorrow morning, but it’s not going to happen.

    So because of that, we may as well hypothesise with what we are likely to start with..

  89. Marko

    I’d like to see Ramsey—-Torreira—-Xhaka as that’s as good as it’s get till jan 2019

    Why’s that? Some sort of spell that expires on that date? We can buy and sell players now

  90. Freddie Ljungberg

    And play Ozil on the wing because Xhaka can’t play in a 2 man midfield? That would ve a massive waste of resources.

    Don’t know where this idea comes from that there’s no chance Xhaka can get sold? Some unsubstantiated rumor that Emery likes him?

    A drilled system isn’t going to make him faster or better at dealing with pressing. I think Xhaka would be great in a slower paced league like Serie A , la liga or back to the bundesliga, just not cut out for the PL.

  91. Carts

    “Why’s that? Some sort of spell that expires on that date? We can buy and sell players now”

    Maybe because that’s when the window opens next…I dunno

  92. Carts

    Just don’t see it happening with Xhaka.

    I think he’ll still be here in September. Who knows, maybe come next May Emery would’ve realised that Xhaka can’t be saved.

  93. Freddie Ljungberg

    SM

    Don’t know if there’s any truth in that, I know Emery has been credited with improving Rabiot and ironing out his weaknesses though.

    Think the biggest issue for Rabiot is that at PSG he’s just one player out of many, he wants to be one of the stars of the team, never going to happen there with the policy they have. At Arsenal though…

  94. Guns of SF

    Does anyone have a verified source that Emery wants to build around Ramsey or is that some click bait fodder
    or his agent feeding BS?

  95. Danish Gooner

    I am getting really,really sick to my stomach of this poverty claim by Arsenal just because we arent in the CL,it is utter trite and bullshit.If Arsenal cant afford to shell out 100 mil in a season something is very wrong,we are the 6th richest club in the world,richer then sugar daddy chavski and the long run in the EL made us more moeny then some of the teams competing in the cl,so lets pretend we qualify for the cl next season what excuse will Kroenke have for not giving us more then 50 mil to spend ????? None.Just wait till they tell us how much money we made on the europa league,you will be surprised.

  96. Cesc Appeal

    it does seem as if we are really going for Martins, if we can get him for nothing that really will be a massive signing, apparently Mislintat has been an admirer for a long time and so probably cannot believe his luck.

    Will add something different to the attack.

  97. Freddie Ljungberg

    Doubt we’ll get him for nothing CA, the president of Sporting has already made a statement that they can’t legally terminate their contracts.

    Doubt any clubs would take the risk of getting embroiled in that legal battle. Should make them very motivated to sell though and the players clearly wants out so a bargain could still be had.

  98. David Smith

    Good times. Dick Law and Wenger wouldn’t get near so many players needed.
    Ivan and co appear to be delivering, unlike wengers sad end regime, at least they are trying.
    I hope these plans succeed, and show Wenger for the disgusting entity he has been in the last ten years, getting as far up Stans Arse as is possible, building his own power structure on incompetent yes men, yet engaging himself in a power war with other board members that has cost the team and club so dearly as he fought for his own selfish survival and desperation to resist any form of change around him .

  99. Sancho Monzorla

    United have said previously they won’t sell Martial within the PL.

    Would love him if we could have him.

  100. Cesc Appeal

    Martial would be a great signing, his agent has basically moved things along now and put United in a difficult position, likely be another Mourinho mistake, watch him flourish elsewhere.

    If it is true and Spurs have a chance of getting him then we do, no UCL, but we have stature and can sell a vision.

  101. Bamford10

    Guns of SF

    It has been widely reported that Emery told the board that he regards Aubameyang and Ramsey as key to his plans. See below.

    “Unai Emery wants Aaron Ramsey and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang to have important roles at Arsenal”

    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11382102/unai-emery-wants-aaron-ramsey-and-pierre-emerick-aubameyang-to-have-important-roles-at-arsenal

    “Unai Emery tells Arsenal he plans to build his team around Aaron Ramsey and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang”

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/22/unai-emery-tells-arsenal-plans-build-team-around-aaron-ramsey-pierre-emerick-aubameyang-7566675/

    “Unai Emery to build Arsenal squad around Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Aaron Ramsey”

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6348817/unai-emery-plans-to-build-arsenal-squad-around-pierre-emerick-aubameyang-and-aaron-ramsey/

  102. Bamford10

    Danish

    I don’t really get the gripe, as we seem to be spending plenty of money, and whatever money we do or don’t have is a matter of public record. You can just read the most recent quarterly financial statements if you think someone is being dishonest about what money is available.

  103. Mark

    @Uwot

    this would be the taxi list:Cech ,Mustafi ,bel end,Xhaka,wilts,Rambo (if doesn’t sign soon)Campbell,corporal jenks,welbz,Perez.”

    Swap Ozil out for Perez ( he deserves another chance, he earned it) and I am in total agreement with that list.

    I’m hoping that we land most of our targets, and change up this squad. Why has it taken so long to address the glaring issues in our squad? Can you imagine if Wenger was still here? ” Well I think it eez not verry eazee to find better playeurs than we have….. ” Cech still No.1 , maybe one or two additions.

    It would have been slit yer wrists time . Instead I am optimistic about how the team will look & play . come the start of the season.
    If we get , Leno, Sokratis ,Calgar , Gelson, Torreia, and another powerful Box to box midfielder , we’d be set for some exciting times indeed.
    Fingers crossed.

  104. Champagne charlie

    Guns

    Basically no, there’s been no confirmation about Ramsey being central to Emerys plans. Just a lot of sauces claiming it, mainly brown.

  105. Bamford10

    Can someone tell me what reason there is for being skeptical of the reports that Emery rates Aubameyang and Ramsey or sees them as important to his plans?

    Can someone further tell me why Skysports would invent this story out of whole cloth? And why they would select Aubameyang and Ramsey?

    I find the skepticism about this story rather amusing.

  106. Nw9 gooner

    Danish I agree. Till last last year we had more than 100 m and now 50m. Last year we made a profit on our transfers . I gather that because of Everton’ s early loss in the EL we made more than £40 m so where has the money gone. B10 has changed his colours after AW ‘s departure, he was spewing that we had money forever and now in three months he tells us to look into the accounts.

  107. Nw9 gooner

    But whatever the position I am elated that we are at last addressing our weaknesses and we have a coach who will instill discipline in the team

  108. Champagne charlie

    Banford

    Because its speculative reporting from sports news outlets. There’s no quotes associated, just a myriad of “X sports understands..”

    Why would Sky and others run such stories? Idk mate, not like they get revenue for clicks or anything.

    It’s the same stance people take to any speculative news in football, it’s treated as a suggestion and not fact until stated unequivocally. Of course you’re content to treat speculation as bonafide news because it supports your own POV, that shocks nobody.

  109. Champagne charlie

    Banford

    Remember when you said “let’s see what Emery does with Xhaka” in the face of reports Emery rates Xhaka?

    Yea.. well compare that to how you’re digesting the apparent affection Emery has for Ramsey.

    One got dismissed as speculative with a “let’s see”, and the other you’re making snide remarks about being “amused” anyone would question the report that Ramsey is central to Emerys team.

    Just highlighting your woefully self serving agenda on here :) have a good one.

  110. Bamford10

    Nw9

    What are you talking about? The irrationally on here sometimes is staggering. Arsenal had the largest cash surpluses (£100-200m) of any club in the world for years under Arsene Wenger. This could be verified in every quarterly financial statement, and it was written about many times over. We were not spending the money we had available to spend.

    Since then, we’ve actually spent a bit of money. Not insane money, but not insignificant sums. Our wage bill is £200m+, one of the largest in the PL (and in the world). We’ve signed the likes of Aubameyang (£56m), Lacazette (£47m), Mustafi (£35m) and Xhaka (£33m). Whether these were good signings is a separate question, but we have in fact been spending money, and when you spend money, the money you’ve spent is no longer sitting in your bank account. You are aware of this, right?

    I’m struggling to track down the article I posted here about a month ago, but it basically laid out that given the spending of the past six months, we likely have around £80m in cash on hand. Given that we have to keep around £25m in cash on hand, simple math tells you that if our resources for transfers come only from our cash on hand, then we have around £50m. Now, we likely have more than that, as we have new realized additional profit since then and we can sell players, but it’s not as if the club was lying when it let people know about the 50m kitty.

    And I haven’t changed “my tune” at all. Wenger was the frugal one, the one opposed to proper spending and the one who was responsible for our spending poorly when we did spend.

    He’s gone now. Thank fucking God.

    I haven’t changed my tune; the tune that Arsenal Football Club is playing has changed. Maybe you should take the plugs out of your ears, mate.