Crazy free transfer situation + Progress on dream defensive midfielder

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There are two approaches you can take to getting what you want in life. One is to work hard and make it happen with positive vibes, the second is to bitch, moan and palm off your failings onto things outside of your control. I demonstrated Stan C’s approach yesterday. Then this story crossed my lap yesterday by Sol Campbell. This is how he signed off the story.

Competition for jobs as a manager is fierce, I know that. So how do you get that first opportunity? I’ve asked myself that a lot.

Is it through friends? Is it through a good agent? Or is it down to timing? Maybe it’s all three.

One thing I know for sure is that I want to be in that environment – win, lose or draw. I want to build a new career. I want to compete again.

Yes, I’ve had knockbacks. But if it’s worth fighting for, you have to go for it. I’ve always known that.

That my friends is how an adult uses the media to deliver a message. Work hard, get your head down, and know that you’ll be rewarded with a chance at some point. It took me well over a year of knocking down doors to land in the industry I wanted to work in. Sol Campbell has a lot more security than most of us who chase our dreams do, and I’ve no doubt he’ll land his chance.

In other news, Sporting Lisbon is dealing with a nightmare at the moment. Fernandes, Carvalho and Gelson Martins are all applying to terminate their deals after being attacked by their own fans at their training ground (and you thought plane banners was the worst that could happen in football).

Arsenal have apparently offered twice this summer for the electric right winger, Sporting rejected the bids, now they might lose him on a free.

The guy did give me a hit of Gervinho to the veins when I first saw him, but look, he’s 23 years old, he has a lot to learn and he has some sexy tricks in locker. He scored 13 and assisted the same amount last season. Worth a punt on a free?

Torriera is still creating headlines in Italy. Sampdoria press reckon he’s Arsenal bound, so do the folk at The DM. Funny that they’re rolling with ‘Arsenal need to spread the cost’ because they’re on a budget. How folk who write about football for a living don’t know that nearly all clubs spread the cost of transfers over the period of the contract is beyond me. Anyway, he’d be a fucking amazing move for the club. I don’t even care that he’s 5ft5. He’s a proper defensive midfielder.

… latest is Di Marzio is now saying he wants Arsenal and he won’t be staying in Italy. GOOD TIMES.

Yacine Adli is playing games between PSG and Arsenal, nothing is done yet, so we’ll wait and see where that lands. He’d be a coup for Emery if he did opt for us, and there’s no doubt he’d get more chances in our first team than theirs. We’ll see though!

Right, quick one from me today, tune into our amazing podcast or I’ll send Stan Collymore round your house to tell you off about your lack of mojo.

We talk about transfers, Sol Campbell, and general excitement about where the club is heading.

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  1. Marko

    100 clean sheets to me seems good for a 26 year old who plays for what the 5th or 6th best team in Germany. I dunno. I think that if we didn’t get him then Napoli or Liverpool would have and after that we would have been down to a Sergio Rico or Jack Butland and you can easily scrutinized them too

  2. mysticleaves

    Marko I don’t know but have you watched Danilo extensively. He’s a tackler. He specialist DM big an physical. Had we not gone in for Torreira I would be championing him but it seems we are getting Torreira. And for a possession based team you can’t have him and then have Danilo beside him. That will be disastrous. Torreira will work with someone that can pass not another DM that can only tackle.

    Spain will just go to the world cup with their assistant coach and still do what they would have done with Julien lupoxxxx

  3. Pierre

    RR
    You’re not wrong ….not sure I can face another 5 years of Ramsey unless he learns what the word discipline means …..

  4. Dissenter

    I’ve been wondering why no one else but Arsenal is considering Mike Arteta for any job in world football…other than being Guardiola’s favorite pet poodle.

    The banter about Arteta is the one of the most bizarre stuff I’ve ever seen in football. The people that entertained the notion of appointing a novice as manger should forever hide their heads in shame,
    In fact we should seize their international passports and confine them to house arrests.

    How come no one else is even mentioning Arteta for any job, be it championship or otherwise?

  5. Marko

    And for a possession based team you can’t have him and then have Danilo beside him

    Danilo Pereira is a good passer of the ball can’t find anywhere that says it’s a problem for him and Lucas Torreira had a 83% passing success for last season. Again not an issue. Our issue isn’t that we need passers in midfield our issue is that we need ball winners

  6. Bamford10

    Ishola

    I realize that it’s the international game rather than the club game, but Spain featured a front three of Isco, Costa and Asensio against Argentina in their pre-WC friendly. They won 6-1.

    Now, you say that no one plays with wide creatives any more, that it’s all about playing with wide forwards. OK, but aren’t Isco and Asensio more like wide creatives than wide forwards? Aren’t both basically CAMs who are being deployed wide? What’s wrong with this, exactly?

  7. Ishola70

    mystic

    what has passing got to do with defensive stability in the base of midfield when facing opponents attacks?

    You can go on the old line that possession of the ball means the opponents don’t have it if you wish.

    So you are basically saying that Torreira and Xhaka are a very good fit because they are both good passers of the ball. Ignoring off the ball requirements.

    We shall see.

  8. Guns of Hackney

    Pack it in about Arteta, Dissenter.

    I know, you know and everyone else knows he would have smashed arsenal into shape pronto. He’ll be a big miss. I guarantee it.

    We certainly wouldn’t have been strabbling around buying geriatric footballers.

    Arsenal fucked that one.

  9. Bamford10

    Of course we want holding mids / defensive mids who can pass and are good with the ball at their feet, and of course we don’t want someone who is simply good defensively or athletically. I thought this was obvious to everyone. See Coquelin for why we don’t want a “defensive specialist”. If we just needed a tackler or ball-winner, we could’ve stuck with him.

  10. Receding Hairline

    “We certainly wouldn’t have been strabbling around buying geriatric footballers.”

    Was he planning to buy players with his own money?? Or does the Pep effect include a money fro Abu Dhabi??

  11. Marko

    I know, you know and everyone else knows he would have smashed arsenal into shape pronto. He’ll be a big miss. I guarantee it.

    Not one other club is interested in hiring him as manager. Not one

  12. Guns of Hackney

    RH

    Arteta has the golden touch. Players want to play for him…they would buy their own contracts out.

  13. Marko

    Arteta has the golden touch. Players want to play for him…they would buy their own contracts out.

    This is brilliant. Not one club though

  14. Ishola70

    Balance Bamford balance.

    Why has it got to be ballers all round everywhere?

    How about a sitting DM who is good defensively and can distribute the ball short to others.

    This notion of passing gets over done anyway especially from deep areas.

    90% of Xhaka passes he makes you and I could make them. They are very basic passes that just keep the ball ticking over.

  15. Bamford10

    Asoa

    Given that my claim re Neymar was a narrow one — i.e., he hasn’t shown, IMO, that he can be THE decisive player on the field in the biggest matches, on the biggest stages — my wager is entirely appropriate, I think.

    If you have a thought re how to make a different, more interesting wager that would get at the same question, let me know.

    Or maybe you think the reward/penalty should be more interesting? As I say, let me know. I’d like to make it as interesting for all as possible. 😉

  16. TR7

    Ishola

    ‘Pass that ball. Pass that ball.Pass that ball to death.Wenger style.’

    Only won them 2 Euros and a WC sandwiched between them. Just to remind everyone in 2010 Spain won each knock out game 1-0 but that was enough.

  17. Receding Hairline

    “”Arteta has the golden touch. Players want to play for him…they would buy their own contracts out.””

    OK…that’s sweet

    That comment is up there with give Ospina the captain’s armband and he will add two inches to his height.

    Or the sell Lacazette and get a hot Anelka clone ..i have been googling hot Anelka clone since last night, no hits yet

  18. S Asoa

    After “respectfully toying “ with Monsieur Le Imbecile Wenger Real Madrid announce appointment of Lopetegui , the Spain coach as their manager. The Catalans raised a storm and predictably Lopetegui fired as Spain Coach 2 days before the games start.

  19. Bamford10

    Hackney

    You’re embarrassing yourself now. There is literally no evidence whatsoever to support the claim that Arteta would have been (or will be) a success. He might very well be, but given that he has never actually managed, you can’t talk about how great he is the way you are doing. It’s just silly.

  20. mysticleaves

    “Danilo Pereira is a good passer of the ball can’t find anywhere that says it’s a problem for him and Lucas Torreira had a 83% passing success for last season. Again not an issue. Our issue isn’t that we need passers in midfield our issue is that we need ball winners”

    Coquelin, Arteta, Neny had top notch passing percentages. Making 3m passes to your nearest man counts as well.

    Coquelin was a ball winner. I am sure you wanted him gone. Again, I ask, have you watched Danilo extensively? He’s not a good passer at least not in a team that averages 65% possession.

    Ball winning in a pressing system entails that winning the ball is not only the work of a DM but the whole attack and midfield. The attackers narrow the opposition passing Lane while the midfielders intercept. A good press doesn’t end most times with winning balls through tackles but rather through forced errors.

    For our team, having someone that can variate his passes is a must than say someone who can only do next buddy passes. I am not saying keep Xhaka, he could play in our system and succeed of course, but I am seeing if we must replace it must be with a deep lying playmaker.

    Ishola I hope I addressed you too

  21. Marko

    90% of Xhaka passes he makes you and I could make them. They are very basic passes that just keep the ball ticking over.

    This is very true. During a game before Martin Tyler was telling Gary Neville about how Xhaka had made the most passes in the league and Neville scoffed and said something along the lines of yeah 5 yards and sideways. Think it didn’t help that it may have been the 3-0 against City when he was playing his usual poor self

  22. Guns of Hackney

    Marko

    Arteta wanted Arsenal. Simple. Just because he isn’t going anywhere else, doesn’t mean anything.

    I hope he continues his development and in two years takes over from the sacked Emery…and he will be sacked. We may do some ‘okay’ business but it won’t be top four business. I don’t see this aging squad doing anything this season.

    I think Emery is onto a loser from the outset.

  23. Ishola70

    Oh my fvcking days lol

    mystic is open minded to getting rid of Xhaka but he wants another regista put in his place lol

    Hipster to the end.

  24. Marko

    he hasn’t shown, IMO, that he can be THE decisive player on the field in the biggest matches, on the biggest stages

    See. And you were disproven. And then you made it about a future event like the world cup. Let it go you’ve been had

  25. Guns of Hackney

    Bamford

    I’m over Arteta. I am trolling.

    However, I would have been more excited for him, rather than Emery.

  26. Bamford10

    Ishola

    Name a player whom you think is good enough for our XI but isn’t especially good on the ball or in passing. Let’s start the conversation there. Obviously your holding mids / defensive mids don’t necessarily need to be as good on the ball as, say, your CAM, but at the highest level, they still need to be pretty damn good on the ball. Look at a Casemiro or Fernandinho.

    As I say, though, give us the name of a player who fits the mold you’re thinking of, so that we can see exactly what you’re talking about.

  27. S Asoa

    Bamford
    The wager is a novel one. I was thinking in terms of the Winner passing a round of the finest ,and the loser diluting his as he/she cries into the tankard.
    By the way, South American fans are very passionate, and any slinking off a la Ozil will be met with a silver bullet back home. This should motivate Neymar … there, think I’ll have to buy the round Bam

  28. Marko

    Again, I ask, have you watched Danilo extensively? He’s not a good passer at least not in a team that averages 65% possession.

    Again can’t find anything that suggests he’s this bad passer of the ball. Whoscored says it’s a strength of his

  29. mysticleaves

    Ishola

    so you really think Emery will coach us and not do off the ball works with the squad? You sound so black and white sometimes.

  30. HighburyLegend

    “and he does make mistakes because that’s what all keepers do, especially young keepers.”

    At Arsenal we have a “specimen” which is a proof that oldest (and supposedly experimented) goalkeepers can be as worse as the youngest ones.

  31. Receding Hairline

    “How good is Xhaka at passing a football?”

    Very good actually. Has a peach of a left foot

    Was Xhaka a former love rival of yours?? What exactly fuels this obsession bothering on hatred you have for him??

  32. Bamford10

    Marko

    Actually, nothing Neymar has done to date disproves my claim — which was about the biggest of big matches, e.g., WC or CL quarters, semis or finals — and my original comment was in fact about how he would do at this summer’s World Cup. You just continue to deny this because it suits your narrative.

  33. Ishola70

    Receding

    We don’t see this great passing though do we on a real regular basis.

    As said before 90% of his passes are just ticking the ball over.

    He has got good passes in his locker mind though.

  34. Marko

    I can find a site saying Danilo has a 79% passing success and another that says 88%. The 79% says one of his strengths is long range passes so maybe that’s the reason for 79%. Point is his passing isn’t a hindrance

  35. Jamie

    I still don’t understand how Bamford can both rate Neymar as the 2nd best player in world football (a higher rating than he gives 5x ballon d’or winner and current holder Ronaldo) and as ‘not a big game player’ simultaneously.

    Strange he can’t admit he’s called it wrong and be done with it. This wager stuff is fairly toe-curling.

  36. Ishola70

    Do the boys not care about defensive stability at the base of the midfield?

    They care more about passing from the base of the midfield?

  37. Bamford10

    Ishola

    “How good is Xhaka at passing a football?”

    Rather than me wasting my time answering this question adequately, why don’t you simply tell me the following: for you, is Xhaka good enough? If not, why not (passing, athleticism, intelligence, etc.)? If so, why so?

  38. mysticleaves

    Marko, Ishola

    If it’s a combo of Xhaka/Torreira and Danilo/Torreira I am thinking the former without thinking about it.

  39. Receding Hairline

    “Do the boys not care about defensive stability at the base of the midfield?”

    What exactly will this one great tackler sitting in the base of midfield do in a team that has no shape?? Will he also be armed with a machine gun??

    How exactly will he have helped our midfield under Wenger where even the full backs are caught in the opponents half as early as the 15th minute??

  40. Ishola70

    It’s not just about great tackling Receding it’s about the correct positioning and defensive awareness.

    But the boys don’t care about that.

    Give me that passer.

    Let’s pass these suckers into submission.

  41. Bamford10

    Jamie

    I’m right here, guy, so you can speak directly to me. And your comment answers itself, frankly: just because a player is the most talented player in the world, or the second most talented player in the world, doesn’t mean he’s demonstrated that he can rise to the occasion and be decisive in the biggest of big matches. That has been my point all along. And I never used the formulation, “big game player”. That’s other people’s language, and that is actually a bit broader than what I was saying.

  42. Marko

    Actually, nothing Neymar has done to date disproves my claim — which was about the biggest of big matches, e.g., WC or CL quarters, semis or finals — and my original comment was in fact about how he would do at this summer’s World Cup. You just continue to deny this because it suits your narrative

    Lying little shit. You said not decisive in big games. Then you were proven wrong with evidence of decisiveness in el classicos copa del Rey finals and semi finals champions league finals and semi finals. You were proven wrong and roundly criticized for it and then you moved the goal posts. Spoke in a past tense like he’s NOT been decisive in big matches but then changed it to this world cup a future event. How can he be decisive when something hasn’t taken place yet. Look it’s done you’ve embarrassed yourself enough just stop

  43. Ishola70

    Are you trolling Bamford?

    You have previously told us that Xhaka is not good enough for the first XI.

    I wish people would show consistency in their views.

  44. Receding Hairline

    “It’s not just about great tackling Receding it’s about the correct positioning and defensive awareness.”

    Positioning counts for very little if you are left 2 on 1 with your midfield partner playing as an out and out striker.

  45. Cesc Appeal

    I wonder if we’re still looking at Pellegrini, there were strong rumours that Emery liked him.

    Very happy with Torreira, but still feel we could do with more in midfield, Wilshere should be gone, Elneny is a bit of a nothing player and Maitland Niles while I think he will be good will need a lot of time.

  46. Marko

    If it’s a combo of Xhaka/Torreira and Danilo/Torreira I am thinking the former without thinking about it

    This midfield doesn’t get addressed with one signing from the 10th place team in Italy. I’m sorry but I like Torreira I think it’s a good signing but it doesn’t turn our poor pool of midfielders into a good one just like that

  47. Receding Hairline

    @ Bamford

    I think you need to consult the season Barca won the treble to see how good he can be on the biggest stage.

    He ran circles round Juve in the champions league final …but guess that is nothing compared to the semifinal of a world cup

  48. Ishola70

    And counts for even less when you have no idea about defensive positioning and are poor defensively.

    Others have noticed that Xhaka has weak concentration levels. It’s even noted in his player profiles now.

    Have you noticed it Receding?

  49. Marko

    Rather than me wasting my time answering this question…why don’t you simply tell me the following

    You are such a prick I swear

  50. Ishola70

    Torreira is good signing.

    Get in a responsible defensively aware DM to back him up and it will be even better for the team.

    Have a good day y’all.

  51. Bamford10

    Ishola

    Do you think I’m being a “prick” in our discussion? Or do you and I manage to have fairly civil conversations, despite our often disagreeing?

    (So you know, I thought I was just being matter of fact in that remark Marko has quoted above. If you thought I was being a prick, my apologies.)

  52. Marko

    Positioning counts for very little if you are left 2 on 1 with your midfield partner playing as an out and out striker.

    Exactly why we Torreira needs another midfield partner. Ramsey plays forward and Xhaka has no positional awareness

  53. Bamford10

    And btw, the real “prick” is the person who INSULTS the other person. This is especially true if said person constantly and repeatedly insults the other person.

    I did no such thing. Someone else does this a lot, though.

  54. Marko

    Do you think I’m being a “prick” in our discussion? Or do you and I manage to have fairly civil conversations, despite our often disagreeing?

    If you say to someone I’m not going to waste my time answering your question and then ask someone a question yourself… you’re acting like a bit of a prick. Just saying

  55. Receding Hairline

    @ Marko/Ishola

    How exactly has Granit Xhaka done so well in his career if he is this useless footballer two of you like to present him as??

    He plays regularly for his country where he is vice captain…He captained Borrusia M and was one of their most consistent performers …

    Kindly name that one Arsenal player whose concentration levels has been top notch under Wenger

    Or better still name that one footballer who never makes mistakes

    Two of you are taking this Xhaka thing quite personally…let Unai Emery decide if he is a useless waste of space or not. We already know both your views non Xhaka and it has been noted. Stop bring all the short comings of the past two years back to Xhaka ..that is simply bullying

  56. mysticleaves

    Ishola, your problem? You don’t make constructive statements. When I talk about the midfield I talk collectively. It’s seems you are talking individuals. Yet you are the one that say only Torreira ain’t enough. Can’t you be consistent too?

    In a team that could have a tackling, defensively aware midfielder like Torreira it would be foolish to put another tackling, defensively aware midfielder beside him especially if you are instituting a pressing system that highlights the strength of the collective rather than the individuals while maintaining your possession traits.

    Xhaka has good passing and game reading in him. When he was in Germany he was more defensively aware and was a better tackler than we have seen in England. He can certainly be coached to be better here. You don’t believe so and are looking for collaborators in Bamford. Everything is not absolute.

  57. Marko

    And btw, the real “prick” is the person who INSULTS the other person. This is especially true if said person constantly and repeatedly insults the other person. I did no such thing. Someone else does this a lot, though

    I seem to remember WE being very civil to you and you called him the cunt king of cuntland or something. So you know grow up you big baby.

    Have a good day everybody. This seems to be the way people sign off now

  58. Marko

    He plays regularly for his country where he is vice captain…He captained Borrusia M and was one of their most consistent performers

    You see none of that matters what matters is how he’s played for Arsenal the last two years. I don’t care how he played for Gladbach because it’s had no influence on how bad or average he’s been for Arsenal. I was actually happy when we originally signed him thinking he’d be a good signing but it hasn’t worked out that way. I’m happy now with Torreira but if he’s poor for the next two years I’m sorry but I’m going to be one of those people criticizing him not making excuses for him

  59. Jamie

    I still don’t understand how someone becomes the 2nd best anything in the world without performing on the big stages.

    Is there a single example of this anywhere in the history of sport? Change your mind and accept you’re the only one here who doesn’t think Neymar performs on ‘the big stage’ unless the big stage to you is literally the WC semi or the WC final.

    I guess following that logic, Goetze is more of a big game player than Neymar.

    Have a fine day, everyone.

  60. Marko

    Stop bring all the short comings of the past two years back to Xhaka ..that is simply bullying

    You’re a numpty I swear. Not back to Xhaka I’ve said our whole group of midfielders is the worst we’ve had in years. Cech has been awful Mustafi shocking Ozil a wet sponge. Rarely hear me criticizing Iwobi because I don’t think he’s public enemy number one. Never hear me calling out Monreal because he’s been our best defender for a few seasons now. It’s not moaning for moaning’s sake

  61. Sanmi

    Black neighborhoods are replica of Africa. They are just like Lagos in Nigeria. But they aren’t as dangerous as North Africa which is like Northern Nigeria, especially if you are not a muslim. It takes a riot led my an Imam on a Friday afternoon and you’d be sorry you are there.

  62. Bamford10

    Marko

    Wrong, yet again. WE suggested that I know “nothing” about the game. That’s why I got angry. And telling someone they know nothing about the game is just as insulting as calling someone a “c*nt”.

    So I got angry and replied in angry, colorful language.

    You’ll notice , tho, that I’ve been perfectly civil to WE since, as I’ve cooled down.

    You on the other hand have been
    a completely unreasonable prick to me ever since.

  63. Marko

    Wrong, yet again. WE suggested that I know “nothing” about the game. That’s why I got angry. And telling someone they know nothing about the game is just as insulting as calling someone a “c*nt”.

    But he was right you clearly know nothing about the game or at the very least know less than you think you do. I’ve been civil as much as you deserve I just got to pull you up on some of your shit because it has to be done. It seems to mostly stem from the Neymar stuff. You keep bringing it up and keep trying to save face. Everyone knows what happened and everyone sees how wrong you are. It was actually all forgotten until you brought up that juvenile wager bullshit

  64. Champagne charlie

    “I’m right here, guy, so you can speak directly to me. “

    This coming from the guy who made numerous general comments yesterday addressed to nobody, yet quoting me verbatim in the subject of the comments.

    You really need to have a look in the mirror, the way you act on here is a joke and nobody is impressed with it.

    Suggest you quit being a first rate cunt and exist as just another no nothing prick.

  65. Leedsgunner

    Has Arteta applied for his national job yet?

    If he’s such a coaching prodigy as we were told ad nauseum on this blog as well as others… surely he should be up for the challenge. Or has he chosen the safety blanket of his Man City coaching job?

    Or surely if he is such a coaching talent, Spain surely should be bashing his door down. After all, don’t forget Pep says he’s good. Surely that must equal years of experience.

    Has anyone approached Arteta yet? For anything?

    … and he wanted the head coach’s job at our club.

    Sure he might be a good manager someday but there was no way on earth he was suitable for the Arsenal job this summer.

    A bullet,
    dodged.

    Thank goodness.

  66. Receding Hairline

    @ Marko

    Just state what you want to state without the name calling, i know you ladies always revert to name calling but try restraining yourself especially if u carry on passing off yourself as a man who knows about football

  67. Marko

    This coming from the guy who made numerous general comments yesterday addressed to nobody, yet quoting me verbatim in the subject of the comments…Suggest you quit being a first rate cunt and exist as just another no nothing prick.

    See what you did there…;-)

  68. Leedsgunner

    In judging Leno, we have to remember that the coaching set up is going to be completely different. Wenger and his completely pony coaches won’t be around disrupting player’s development.

    I remember when Cech joined the club, he wanted to bring Lollichon, his goal keeping coach with him. Wenger vetoed that idea because he didn’t want his mates toes stepped on.

    Well, the evidence is clear to see how Cech, regressed under Wenger and his staff.

    Leno might not be the star name, but he has plenty of potential as a keeper. Let’s see what Unai could do with him.

  69. Marko

    Just realized signing Gelson on a free could be the best bit of business we do this summer. It addressing a need and because he’s free there’s still money left for a whoever

  70. Receding Hairline

    “In judging Leno, we have to remember that the coaching set up is going to be completely different. ”

    Same applies to any other Arsenal player …we judge them too hastily. Wenger did not set the highest of standards nor prepare his teams adequately enough. Mistakes were not addressed because he did not want confrontation

  71. Marko

    Ospino is better than Leno ….anyone want to make a case for Leno being better than Ospina..

    Yeah Ospina is shit

  72. Vintage Gun

    “Fernando Hierro is in at Spain. Arsene just can’t get a job and Arteta misses out yet again”

    Arsene’s DONE at the elite level and he knows. He knows the next bottle of wine he has will never get him drunk compared to the bottle he’s been drinking over the last few decades.

    The best it gets for him is a sour milk job of replacing Southgate after another QF humiliation.

  73. Vintage Gun

    “Ospino is better than Leno ….anyone want to make a case for Leno being better than Ospina..”

    Me, Leno has a neck

  74. Bamford10

    I mean no offense, Marko, but it’s pretty clear that you’re neither a fair-minded person, nor a friendly person. You’re actually a bit nasty, honestly, and when you disagree with people, you aren’t entirely honest about what has actually been said. You tend to misrepresent what the person said or oversimplify what the person said in order to score points. I imagine that other people see this as well, but if they don’t, so be it.

    Whatever. Not a massive deal.

  75. gambon

    So if you believe the “no smoke without fire” thing, that means:

    Leno
    Sokratis
    Soyuncu
    Torreira

    Are all on the way in.

    I have to say im not bowled over by the quality of some of these, but theres a lot of potential, and we are moving quicker than any other team in the market, so we seem to have addressed Wengers biggest weakness – endless transfer dithering.

    The question is, will we be signing anyone else (wide player) or are we done with the 5 more defensive signings?

  76. Cesc Appeal

    The thing is Sokratis and Soyuncu can be offset to a large extent by selling Mustafi and Chambers, you will probably get £40-50 Million for the both of them and probably will have spent about the same bringing Sokratis and Soyuncu in.

    I think we look better for the change as well Sokratis will be better as the experienced CB which we would be looking to Mustafi to play and Soyuncu is a better young prospect at CB than Chambers I would say.

    It means that our actual expenditure will be Torreira at £26 Million and then Len at £22 Million but you can probably get £10 Million from Ospina to offset that.

    That way we will have spent £37 Million of our budget before any other sales and also it seems we will pay Sampdoria £8 Million or something this summer for Torreria so the spend goes down to £20 Million but obviously our budget next summer is reduced by £8 Million right away but will also b increased by the new kit deal, sponsors etc.

    Wenger left us in a shit situation, but the club are doing a good job getting out of it right now. Why did we persist with him for so long? Could have been doing this years ago.

  77. mysticleaves

    “I mean no offense, Marko, but it’s pretty clear that you’re neither a fair-minded person, nor a friendly person. You’re actually a bit nasty, honestly, and when you disagree with people, you aren’t entirely honest about what has actually been said. You tend to misrepresent what the person said or oversimplify what the person said in order to score points. I imagine that other people see this as well, but if they don’t, so be it.”

    I see it Bamford. Marko can’t be infuriating to chat with at times.

  78. Guns of Hackney

    Have to agree with the enlighten one, Gambon with his statement. You did forget Lichtsteiner, though.

    Underwhelming to say the least. Will these new acquisitions make us top four material straight off the bat? Highly unlikely.

    I’ve said it and said it but we need to find 12 points and concede probably 15/20 goals less and score probably 15/20 more.

    This is a monster shift to attain without going out and spending £300m+.

    I hope I am wrong but…

  79. gambon

    Guns

    Lichsteiner is already done, I was just talking about the rumours that all seem too persistent not to be true.

    I disagree regarding making up 12 points.

    Its basically 4 wins, look at some of the away games we lost last year.

    I dont think people realise just how much Wenger lost it in recent seasons.

    It was just a complete mess.

  80. Leedsgunner

    Cesc Appeal

    Don’t forget fringe players like Akpom, Perez, Jekinson, Zelalem etc each who should some funds in too. Perhaps £5m to £10m in total?

    Not much but every little helps!

  81. Guns of Hackney

    G

    Four wins is still four wins. One also has to remember that the top five/four get worse. We know for a fact that Liverpool, city, United and Chelsea will be better. Spurs, they will always bottle it.

    Still, it means we have to seriously up our game against the top teams to stand a chance.

    As I’ve alluded to, the opening fixtures will make it or break it. If we get a stinker…we are fucked.

  82. RJM

    Emery and Misinlat are like Wenger….

    They want “value” first…..

    Well wether they want it or not it’s their mandate. Probably the first thing Emery was told… you’re not getting any superstars. This club is about making money….winning comes 2nd

  83. gambon

    Interesting that we are doing our buying before selling anyone.

    I wonder if Emery wants to spend a few weeks with everyone before deciding who to sell.

    I think, as things stand, we will sell:

    Leno……………..Ospina & Martinez
    Sokratis & Soyuncu……….Chambers
    Lichsteiner……………………..Jenkinson
    Torreira…………………………..Wilshere

    If the Gelson Martins rumours are true, I think Welbeck & Perez will both go.

  84. Champagne charlie

    I know many will say I’m running interference, but suggesting Wenger was at total fault for slow transfers is a bit rich.

    The setup and personnel changed at the beginning of last season, and with big Weng in charge we did serious business in Jan given the time of year.

    Was Wenger a factor for slow transfer dealings? Most likely. But him leaving hasn’t expedited the process suddenly, Arsenal putting a cohesive model in place is the reason for the upturn. January showed us that.

  85. Champagne charlie

    “We know for a fact that Liverpool, city, United and Chelsea will be better.“

    This type of thinking does my tits in, its absolute bollocks Guns.

    Chelsea won the league and finished 5th, there’s no linear progression in place with football. Absolutely no fact or given right that you will improve upon the last season.

  86. WengerEagle

    Soyuncu still very raw according to Bundesliga watchers, has potential but unlikely to make an impact next season and could use a loan before the step up.

    Hardly ideal when forking out such a fee for a CB, why not go hard for a defender that has performed at a high level already, off the top of my head Skriniar off of Inter, Koulibaly, Murillo, Tah, Howedes, Benatia, etc.

    We already have two up and coming raw defenders in Holding and Mavropanos.

  87. Champagne charlie

    I like Leno’s potential, he’s big and incredibly agile/cat like.

    At 26 he’s got enough experience to come in and hit the ground running, but also plenty of time to polish his game. Remove the apparent mistakes and he’s the first proper keeper we’ve had in a long time.

    On the subject of his mistakes, can someone more informed tell us what these mistakes look like? I’ve seen the pass back bobbling over his attempted clearance a number of times but you’ll have to go some to get me to be overly critical on that type of stuff.

    What mistakes does he make? Drops? Shit kicking? Weak shots being let in? Getting caught on crosses?

  88. Dissenter

    This activity [reported in the media] of this transfer window just goes to who how badly Wenger ran the transfers in the last half of his Arsenal stay.
    He made the transfer window a living nightmare for gooners every where. Who can forget his refusal to buy an outfield player that fateful summer window.

    I try to forget but it keeps coming back to me. It must be post Wenger stress disorder. The all-knowing grimace, pseudo-intellectual babbling about “internal solutions” and outright dithering at media events.

    Not looking for trouble from the usual Wenger-supplicants but thank *** we are free.

  89. WengerEagle

    Haven’t watched too much of Leno, whenever I have he’s looked reasonably solid if unspectacular.

    General consensus on him though is that he was as good or even better than Ter Stegen as youngsters but last couple of years in particular they have gone in opposite directions. Stegen has established himself as a top 5 GK in Europe (as food as anyone after De Gea, Oblak and Neuer for me) while Leno hasn’t really made any progression at all.

    Leno is still young and has really good experience so could potentially go on to be special.

  90. Dissenter

    How long will Julen Lopetegui last as Madrid manager?
    He wasn’t their first or second choice and goalkeeper-turned managers usually struggle.
    Other than Dino Zoff, I can’t think of any other former goalkeeper that succeeded as a top manager.

  91. Carts

    “Was Wenger a factor for slow transfer dealings? Most likely. But him leaving hasn’t expedited the process suddenly, Arsenal putting a cohesive model in place is the reason for the upturn. January showed us that”

    maybe I missed it, but who’s arguing otherwise?

  92. Carts

    ” my head Skriniar off of Inter, Koulibaly, Murillo, Tah, Howedes, Benatia, etc. ”

    If Soyuncu is £25m, then you’re probably looking at £50m> for Skrinrar and Koulibally.

    Then about £40m for Murillo, Tah

    Then £30m for Tah and Benatia

    We should’ve swooped for Murillo 2 seasons ago. He was someone I campaigned for but as usual Wenger wasn’t trying to hear me

  93. Graham62

    Dissenter

    Totally endorse your sentiments.

    Be careful though, you might be called a” Wenger obsessive” by @ Victorious and Co.

  94. WengerEagle

    Carts

    Makes much more sense to spend 50 million on a defender that would come in and immediately improve the starting XI, I mean Auba is 29 he’s not going to wait around for a bunch of kids to possibly come good.

    Soyuncu is being quoted for 25-30 million anyways, might as well make the extra push for quality. VVD cost Pool 75 million, they won’t regret that one bit.

  95. Champagne charlie

    Weagle

    Get what you’re angling at but 25-30 mil on a potential 60 mil defender is still very different to a 60 mil defender.

    The club isn’t equipped to splash that kind of coin it would seem, and defenders undoubtedly at that level are few and far between.

  96. Graham62

    CC

    No one is “suggesting that Wenger was at total fault for slow transfers”

    He was though, as time progressed, the major reason for the stagnated system.

    The reason for this is clear.

    He just didn’t want to leave.

    .

  97. WengerEagle

    CC

    These fees imo are getting exaggerated, don’t get me wrong the market has gone mad but the Barca transfer activity last summer was more the exception than the new rule.

    You have extremely highly rated AND young midfielders and forwards in Bernardo Silva, Mo Salah, Fabinho, Naby Keita (defenders are nearly always easier to obtain for less) going for under 50 million pounds so find it hard to believe that a Skriniar would cost 60 million. Maybe Koulibaly because Napolis owner is a nutter, but others I mentioned could certainly be bought for between the 30-50 million bracket imo.

    Soyuncu at 30 million is a huge risk and even if it pays off, were unlikely to reap the benefits for a season or two at least.