Crazy free transfer situation + Progress on dream defensive midfielder

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There are two approaches you can take to getting what you want in life. One is to work hard and make it happen with positive vibes, the second is to bitch, moan and palm off your failings onto things outside of your control. I demonstrated Stan C’s approach yesterday. Then this story crossed my lap yesterday by Sol Campbell. This is how he signed off the story.

Competition for jobs as a manager is fierce, I know that. So how do you get that first opportunity? I’ve asked myself that a lot.

Is it through friends? Is it through a good agent? Or is it down to timing? Maybe it’s all three.

One thing I know for sure is that I want to be in that environment – win, lose or draw. I want to build a new career. I want to compete again.

Yes, I’ve had knockbacks. But if it’s worth fighting for, you have to go for it. I’ve always known that.

That my friends is how an adult uses the media to deliver a message. Work hard, get your head down, and know that you’ll be rewarded with a chance at some point. It took me well over a year of knocking down doors to land in the industry I wanted to work in. Sol Campbell has a lot more security than most of us who chase our dreams do, and I’ve no doubt he’ll land his chance.

In other news, Sporting Lisbon is dealing with a nightmare at the moment. Fernandes, Carvalho and Gelson Martins are all applying to terminate their deals after being attacked by their own fans at their training ground (and you thought plane banners was the worst that could happen in football).

Arsenal have apparently offered twice this summer for the electric right winger, Sporting rejected the bids, now they might lose him on a free.

The guy did give me a hit of Gervinho to the veins when I first saw him, but look, he’s 23 years old, he has a lot to learn and he has some sexy tricks in locker. He scored 13 and assisted the same amount last season. Worth a punt on a free?

Torriera is still creating headlines in Italy. Sampdoria press reckon he’s Arsenal bound, so do the folk at The DM. Funny that they’re rolling with ‘Arsenal need to spread the cost’ because they’re on a budget. How folk who write about football for a living don’t know that nearly all clubs spread the cost of transfers over the period of the contract is beyond me. Anyway, he’d be a fucking amazing move for the club. I don’t even care that he’s 5ft5. He’s a proper defensive midfielder.

… latest is Di Marzio is now saying he wants Arsenal and he won’t be staying in Italy. GOOD TIMES.

Yacine Adli is playing games between PSG and Arsenal, nothing is done yet, so we’ll wait and see where that lands. He’d be a coup for Emery if he did opt for us, and there’s no doubt he’d get more chances in our first team than theirs. We’ll see though!

Right, quick one from me today, tune into our amazing podcast or I’ll send Stan Collymore round your house to tell you off about your lack of mojo.

We talk about transfers, Sol Campbell, and general excitement about where the club is heading.

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  1. Marko

    Kolasinac will struggle I think. Better suited as a backup. Says alot that Maitland Niles impressed more at LB than him last season

  2. Thanos

    Ishola if you are implying he plays wide when laca plays central then no if you are saying he has liscence to go wide as a striker then ok

  3. champagne charlie

    “Point isn’t that Auba can’t play wide it’s that he’s at his best centrally”

    Well that would be relevant if it was Auba FC, but for Arsenal he produces more than good enough from wide, so your objection is pedantic.

    What would he offer centrally that he doesn’t starting left? I’ll ask it again because neither your nor Gambon have answered. Most likely down to the fact you’ve got no answer and are just hell bent on sweeping general statements like “Auba is best as a CF”.

  4. Frost

    Dissenter

    ”He’s not even good enough to start for Wolves
    Reading Paulinho’s cringe-worthy fascination for Welbeck, you wouldn’t know he’s praising the forward player with 15 league goals in four seasons.”

    I can bet my house that half of those were debatable own goals that had him falling over himself to score. I mean it’s amazing to me. You have a plethora of talents (hell look at Martial for eg) in world football who would elevate this Arsenal team & someone is seriously suggesting we start Welbeck?

  5. Ishola70

    Bamford

    No they don’t.

    Man City have the more natural width and the dribblers cutting inside in comparison to Liverpool.

    How Liverpool set-up in their three would be more like Arsenal than Man City.

    That being more players seen as strikers making up the three.

  6. Ishola70

    Laca and Auba will more than likely play in the same side more times than not so folks will just have to get used to it.

    Welbeck will most probably be the option up top coming off the bench not Laca.

  7. Freddie Ljungberg

    Welbeck has 1 year left on his contract and is already on around 100k a week, does anyone actually see us being stupid enough to give him a new contract with improved wages? For being 3rd choice striker and clogging up one of the flanks?

    If you think Ozil makes to much money for his input…

  8. Freddie Ljungberg

    We could easily get 20-25m in this market for a 27 year old English international from a team that’s more his level.

    Use that to buy a goalscoring winger instead of cramming in players unfit for the position on the wings.

  9. Bamford10

    Brooklyn

    Round of 16 or the quarters. In the first bracket I did, I had England finishing 1st in their group, beating Colombia in the round of 16 and then getting knocked out by Brazil in the quarters.

    But now I’m starting to have second thoughts. I’m not a big believer in either Kane or Alli, Sterling hasn’t looked good of late, and Belgium looked pretty darn good in their friendlies.

    If England manage to top their group, I think I now see them getting knocked out by Colombia, not because the latter are more talented per se but because they may have more guile.

    If England finish 2nd in their group, I see them getting past Japan in the round of 16, then losing to Germany in the quarters.

    So round of 16 or quarters for me. You?

  10. Marko

    Well that would be relevant if it was Auba FC, but for Arsenal he produces more than good enough from wide, so your objection is pedantic

    But he produces more as the focal point of the attack.

    What would he offer centrally that he doesn’t starting left

    I told you more goals. Last season 26 goals from playing centrally 5 goals from having to incorporate Lacazette. It’s not rocket science. Lemme ask you a question Charlie why didn’t Dortmund ever think about playing him anywhere else than CF?

  11. champagne charlie

    “We will sell Welbeck”

    Ok oracle, and why would Welbeck leave?

    If I was him I’d lap up my 100k a week at Arsenal for another season and become a freebie.

  12. champagne charlie

    Marko

    More general fluff from you, “he produces more” centrally. He scores goals and makes runs, he doesn’t hold up the ball or link play anywhere close to the level Lacazette does.

    He scored more goals from central because he played more games and you’re the one sniping about it not being rocket science? Go to sleep.

  13. Dissenter

    We have to sell Welbeck
    Not selling him will be as bad as letting Ozil run down his contract. Eddie Nketiah is ready to take the mantle of the third striker.

  14. Freddie Ljungberg

    Cc

    He’s a non-essential player, he has more to lose than the club if he’s not playing.

    Doubt he wants to lose his england spot and train with the youths for a year.

    Why wouldn’t he want to play every week? He’s still young and can do a job for a lower placed team, he’s going to be on similar wages and probably gets a nice signing bonus.

  15. Dissenter

    If Welbeck is told in no uncertain terms that the new manager does not want him, he will be off to start elsewhere.
    Really, how have clubs always moved on players in the modern era?

  16. champagne charlie

    Freddie

    It’s the season directly following a WC mate, it’s a gimme. Why go play for Palace on 100k a week when you could chill at Arsenal for a season on that and then go earn 160k a week?

    Plus he’ll get game time at Arsenal, this idea he’ll train with the youths is frankly prehistoric.

  17. Major_Jeneral

    Hello gooners, I decided to join you guys in the commentary box.

    What are your thoughts about this midfielder Seri from AC Milan, can he be a good fit for Arsenal?

    I just watched Gelson Martins on YouTube, I think he reminds me of Gervinho too. I think he might be a good fit on the wing rather than having Auba to play there.

    @le-grove thanks for that clip

  18. Ishola70

    If Welbeck is sold this summer then of course an extra forward has to be brought in.

    This forward can play on the left and Auba has his central berth that folks want.

    Laca on the bench.

    So all that needs to be ascertained is a left forward that is on the market that is within Arsenal’s price range who is a goal threat.

    Don’t want to hear goal threat is not necessary. Auba could go down with a long term injury like any other player so not good to just want the player brought in to just supply Auba, He has to have more about him than just that.

  19. Marko

    he doesn’t hold up the ball or link play anywhere close to the level Lacazette does.

    If that’s your argument for playing Aubameyang out of position it’s pretty pathetic. We haven’t had a proper striker since Van Persie we have one now and you want him played out of position.

  20. champagne charlie

    Marko

    Just so we’re clear…

    My argument that Lacazette is a more rounded CF than Auba, and links play better, occupies the CB’s better, and makes the forward line tick better is “pathetic”.

    …but your argument that Auba is “best as a CF” trumps it?

    OK MATE, back to the playstation.

  21. Bamford10

    Charlie

    Right, but making runs, stretching defenses and scoring goals is more important than hold-up and linking play, and Aubameyang is better at hold-up play than some of you pro-Lacazette folks are suggesting.

    Further, look at Emery’s front three at PSG this past season. How much hold-up play did Emery expect from Cavani? Very little. Who more resembles Cavani: Aubameyang or Lacazette? Aubameyang, obviously.

    Again, none of this matters, as in the end, Emery will make the decision. If reports are correct, though, and he sees Aubameyang as one of his two or three “key” players, there is a good chance he’ll be playing him through the center.

    We will see.

  22. Freddie Ljungberg

    You win Cc

    We should just bend over for every average 3rd choice striker/backup RB whatever that wants to sit out his last year. Let the gravy train roll…

    If we want to sell him and he refuses why would we still give him game time? He’s a nothing player, it’s not like he’s an Alexis level player and carries the team on his back.

  23. Marko

    No your argument for playing a much better goalscorer a prolific striker on the wing because Laca has better link up play (debatable by the way Auba links up well) is pathetic. Laca occupies CB’s better yep sure. Makes the forward line tick? Our forward line got better around the time we signed Auba you know. There was a period just before Laca got injured where he couldn’t buy a goal. Fact is if Lacazette was so good why did we spend 55 million on someone in the same position?

  24. champagne charlie

    Freddie
    There’s no winning, it’s just the reality. You don’t let players get into the final 12 months of their deals, you negotiate 24 months out like anyone else with sense. Welbeck isn’t nearly as bad as you’re suggesting so don’t try and fabricate a situation where he’d stay for a season and never see game time. That’s rubbish

    Banford
    Lacazette does all of the above, Auba’s pace is what makes him effective coming from wide. You’re putting a lot of stock in this “Emery will do X” line of commentary, I’ll be mindful of that when he does something you’ve been vocal against previously as i’m sure your tune will inevitably change. You’re always looking for vindication from some external source, don’t know why you can’t just debate a point of view from you 30 years of studying.

  25. champagne charlie

    Marko

    You talk so much rubbish it’s hard to summon the strength to type a response. You’ve offered nothing as to why Auba must play centrally that he wasn’t achieving out wide. He was scoring and assisting from there but because your rigid ideas of football have players only capable of operating in one segment of the pitch, you’ve clearly only ever been a spectator.

    There is nothing rigid about Arsenal front 3, but the way some on here bash their keys at the idea of Auba starting wide left is hilarious. He’s scoring and assisting, Lacazette is coring and assisting. Why is there a fixation with creating a problem?

  26. Thanos

    Charlie they are not going to keep welbeck and let his contract run down some team will buy him. He is gone before August

  27. Frost

    champagne charlie

    “Agreement for the transfer of Torreira being mooted in Italian circles…”

    From Gazetta
    Arsenal have agreed a fee and personal terms for Lucas Torreira and he will become an Arsenal player. [@Gazzetta_it] #afc

    Arsenal’s offer worth over £30m for Lucas Torreira was greater than that of Napoli and Borussia Dortmund. The final details are being worked on before the move is complete. [@Gazzetta_it] #afc

  28. Thanos

    To keep welbeck for the last year of his contract will cost us 7million pounds we sell him for 10m we save 17 mil it’s easy maths he is gone

  29. Marko

    You’ve offered nothing as to why Auba must play centrally that he wasn’t achieving out wide

    How about play him in his best position?

    He was scoring and assisting from there

    Yeah but not as much as he scores from the CF position. Obviously.

    Why is there a fixation with creating a problem?

    You’re actually creating the problem by asking a 29 year old prolific striker to play elsewhere. Charlie why not play Laca wide?

  30. Bamford10

    Charlie

    “Lacazette does all of the above.”

    Actually, he doesn’t have much pace, can’t get in behind defenses and doesn’t stretch defenses. So no, he actually doesn’t do these things.

    Plus, I could the say the above of Aubameyang. Because it’s not as if he does NO hold-up play. He’s just not as interested in it as Lacazette. But he does do some.

    Of course, though, what he’s more interested in doing and what he’s better at doing than Lacazette is more important.

    And that’s why pretty much the whole world, except for a couple of guys here on Le Grove, regards Aubameyang as a better CF than Lacazette. While the latter may do a few things the former does not, the former has more of the things that make for a great and dangerous CF. End of story.

    I mean, look at Ishola’s comment above: he’s advocating that Lacazette start at CF. But if we were to sign a proper wide left player, where would Ishola have Lacazette? On the bench.

    Can you imagine someone here suggesting that we go with a starting XI in which Aubameyang was on the bench? I don’t know who would look more silly: the person recommending this, or Sven and Gazidis, for going out and spending 60m on a back-up CF we didn’t even need.

  31. champagne charlie

    Marko
    I’m assuming nothing, you’re assuming this cockamamie idea that players have rigid positions and can only operate in one. Modern football isn’t like that, even old school football had a bit of variation to it with CM dropping into CB.

    You could put Welbz–Laca–Auba as a front three and they could all occupy one of the 3 positions with varying strengths and weaknesses. Emery himself stated Rabiot prefers playing as a b2b midfielder but HE decided he wanted him to be a DM. Why is it so out of the realms of possibility for Emery to see Auba doing the business wide left and continue as per? Just seems you’re hell bent on putting Auba centrally for the sake of it and nothing more.

    Thanos
    Some team will buy him only if he decides to go mate, you’re dreadfully naive if you don’t think Welbz has a say in his future. I think he’s getting a new deal anyway, but I’d happily move him on and reinvest. I just don’t think it’s as straightforward as “get him out and X in”.

    Samesong
    <3

  32. Receding hairline

    Lucas Torierra will be a signing to excite me cos I know nothing about him.

    But South American.. Hustler.. Low centre of gravity.. What’s not to like?

    I think I like the business we are doing this summer.. Nothing to wow the pundits who love a big transfer fee.. But more like what we need to make what we have work

    And we already have a lot regardless of what most of the posters here think

  33. London gunner

    Welbz is a below average CM and not even a winger. No way shouod he be starting for a top 4 side.

    He cant cross and he cant assist not to mention his inability to shoot. We need better than crystal palace level players.

  34. Nw9 gooner

    CC just think. Where has Aubameyang scored his goals in the last few seasons ,even at Arsenal, he had already scored 5 goals before being paired with Lacazette. Tell me frankly , are you just being contrarian. I like Lacazette, after a long time we have two great strikers and don’t want him to be sold, he can be play with Aubameyang or play in his absence

  35. Marko

    I’m assuming nothing, you’re assuming this cockamamie idea that players have rigid positions and can only operate in one. Modern football isn’t like that

    Feel like we’re going in circles. All right tell me why Dortmund never played Auba wide why did they play him predominantly as the CF? Does the 98 goals in 144 appearences have anything to do with it. I mean it’s pretty straight forward if you have someone that good in a position play him in that position

  36. HillWood

    I thought Kolasinac looked good when he first arrived
    Then Wenger changed the system and preferred Monreal
    Ho

  37. Marko

    Just seems you’re hell bent on putting Auba centrally for the sake of it and nothing more

    Jesus you’re thick. Considering the amount of goals he’s scored as a CF is why I’m hell bent on him playing as a CF

  38. Bamford10

    Marko

    “Feel like we’re going in circles.”

    You are. Which is why I said an hour ago that no one was going to say anything that would change anyone’s mind on the matter of Aubameyang vs. Lacazette.

  39. Ishola70

    The Auba-Lacazette argument is not even Arsenal’s most pressing concerns.

    If Emery can’t set up an effective offensive system that sees both Aubameyang and Lacazette in it then he is no good himself.

    Arsenal have bigger problems elsewhere other than the Auba-Laca debate.

  40. Dissenter

    “Arsenal’s offer worth over £30m for Lucas Torreira was greater than that of Napoli and Borussia Dortmund. The final details are being worked on before the move is complete. [@Gazzetta_it] #afc”

    That’s the point I was making to gambon and Marko
    The transfer fee wont be limited to 22 million just because the release clause says that. Market forces can still push the price higher.
    Hopefully we got this guy. We need a busy bee in midfield.

  41. champagne charlie

    Nw9
    Auba has been a CF, and so has Laca. Both have done so to devastating effect for their previous clubs respectively. One has continued those exploits from wide at Arsenal so it’s really not much of a stretch to say carry on lad instead of benching a guy who still managed 20 goals on a dodgy knee.

    Marko
    Done. You’re not worth the effort.

  42. Ishola70

    Let’s just be clear regarding Laca and Auba.

    Both can CF and both can play out wider on both sides left and right.

    As said if Emery can’t make an effective offensive system out of that with the calibre of player then he himself is failing.

    Fretting over nothing.

  43. Dissenter

    The guardian is reporting that Arsenal outbid Napoli by throwing in an extra 5 million euros for Torriera. This one is done people.
    Jack is gone…makes me feel so gol saying this.
    I suspect Elneny will be sold as well.

  44. champagne charlie

    Ornstein:

    “As widely reported Arsenal in talks to sign Sampdoria midfielder Lucas Torreira. No agreement but central midfield a priority & 22yo Uruguay int’l seen as ideal fit technically + financially. #AFC also want a GK after defensive signings of Lichtsteiner & Sokratis (announced July)”

  45. Dissenter

    Ishola,
    Let’s just be clear regarding Laca and Auba.Both can CF and both can play out wider on both sides left and right.

    Exactly
    Both can interchange all the time. They already have chemistry and are willing to be the assist to the other.
    This drawn out argument is meaningless.

  46. Dissenter

    The Guardian; “Torreira arrived in Italy as a striker, described at the time as the new Carlos Tevez because of his combative style, and joined Perugia in 2013. There, however, he was moved into midfield by the coach and 2006 World Cup winner Massimo Oddo.

    He gradually grew into his new role and earned a move to Sampdoria in 2016. He has become a key player at the Stadio Luigi Ferraris and is ranked among the best defensive midfielders in Serie A. He has one Uruguay cap and was included in Óscar Tabárez’s World Cup squad for the tournament in Russia this summer.”

    I didn’t know this before. He was a striker, does that mean his instincts are like Ramsey’s. We need someone that can defend first.

  47. champagne charlie

    “Exactly. Both can interchange all the time. They already have chemistry and are willing to be the assist to the other. This drawn out argument is meaningless”

    Precisely. Almost as if players are capable of moving on a football pitch

  48. azed

    “My argument that Lacazette is a more rounded CF than Auba, and links play better, occupies the CB’s better, and makes the forward line tick better is “pathetic”.”

    The argument for Giroud on here was also linking up play. I’d rather a striker who is better at scoring than one who is better at linking up play.

    Also Aubermayang plays on the shoulder of the last defender which is something defenders don’t like.

    Heskey was good at holding the ball, linking up but he was still shit.

    Can we for once play the best players in their best positions?

  49. Graham62

    I realise this is an Arsenal blog site, but with all that’s been going on over these past few weeks/months, can’t we all break away from our beloved Arsenal and concentrate on the WC a wee bit more.

    Of course I will be genuinely excited if we manage to secure the services of Lucas Torreira, but in the meantime I want to sit back and watch what should be a fantastic festival of football and put Arsenal on the backburner for a few weeks.

    Remember, Rome wasn’t built in a day.

    We’ll be fine come August, so just relax and enjoy the next five weeks.

  50. Cesc Appeal

    If it does happen that is a great signing.

    Lichtsteiner, Sokratis and Torreria and it is just about mid June, looking for a GK as well and seems like we’re going for Soyuncu seriously as well.

    Great stuff.

    Martins on a free or Pavon and that is a great summer.

    Factor in new manager and new coaches and it is exciting to support Arsenal again.

  51. Akilan

    Dissenter,
    No mate. Torreira’s best work is done behind the ball. All his 4 goals were scored from outside the box.

  52. champagne charlie

    With Bernd Leno apparently nearing Napoli, and Ornstein saying a GK is on the agenda who do folk think the candidates are?

    Could we gazump Napoli again, or maybe there’s some gentlemanly stuff gone on and we’ve agreed Torreira for us, and Leno for them.

    Timo Horn pledged he’ll stay at Cologne but that’s always up for debate until a bid is made. Lafont maybe if Cech is actually staying another season. Or Sergio Rico from Sevilla is another being mooted.

  53. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Looks like Aldi is off the shelf an staying at PSG

    Well see but

    Everything is done for the best.

  54. Marko

    The transfer fee wont be limited to 22 million just because the release clause says that. Market forces can still push the price higher

    No we’re paying more because we don’t want to pay the 22 million release clause up front because we’re on a budget we’d rather pay 26 million in installments

  55. Graham62

    Anyone who passionately loves the game, will always see the WC as the pinnacle of the sport.

    Maybe my delight and joy at Wenger finally leaving, has hightened my awareness and appreciation of the game in general.

    Thanks Arsene.

  56. Ishola70

    Sampdoria conceded a lot of goals season just gone in comparison to others.

    60.

    9 worse than Arsenal.

  57. champagne charlie

    “Anyone who passionately loves the game, will always see the WC as the pinnacle of the sport.”

    Nope, not for me Graham. Couldn’t give a monkeys about the WC or Euro’s beyond the “spectacle” of it all. Don’t care who wins, just don’t very much care full stop.

    Arsenal fan, club football fan, and would much rather watch that than International football 7 days a week.

  58. Ishola70

    This little fella will not be able to do it all on his own.

    He won’t at Arsenal and looking at how many goals Sampdoria leaked he couldn’t there either.

    And I rate him btw Torreira as an individual player.

  59. Sancho Monzorla

    What the hell is the point of anything if you rate a player and still think he won’t do the club any good?

  60. Graham62

    CC

    Good luck to you mate.

    Sad though that you don’t give a toss.

    Did something go wrong in your childhood?

  61. Ishola70

    To the extent where we all want Arsenal to be Sancho.

    Get in an additional DM behind him then Arsenal have better chances of getting where we all want them to be.

  62. champagne charlie

    Graham

    haha no mate, just not that attached whereas I am with Arsenal. Never got to grips with hating United players and then wanting to cheer for them alongside Arsenal ones every 2 years.

    I’m happy to see Arsenal players do well but very much a neutral at the WC

  63. Sancho Monzorla

    Ishola

    Yes of course. But not everything can be done and announced simultaneously. If the club are making a move you think is a good idea 6 weeks into a new regime, maybe it’s a good thing.

    I’m just saying. If the club sign someone you rate, logic follows that you would be excited. It’s better than having a player you don’t rate come in, or nothing at all being done. Isn’t it?

  64. Frost

    R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    “Hope we don’t get stung…”

    Always the thing with bees isn’t it. At least he can sting. Can’t rem the last time we had that

  65. Dissenter

    CC,
    “Arsenal fan, club football fan, and would much rather watch that than International football 7 days a week.”

    I though I was the only one
    International football has become second class to club football.
    International football gets tired players, shoddy FAs and second rate managers.
    The WC is just a good way to pass time until the season begins

  66. Ishola70

    Sancho

    I was saying good things about this player a while ago on here.

    I like him as an individual player.

    I think I would like him even more if he plays at Arsenal with a safety net DM behind him.

    On an individual basis would be very happy with the signing.

  67. Frost

    Ishola70

    “Sampdoria conceded a lot of goals season just gone in comparison to others. 60. 9 worse than Arsenal.”

    They’re sampdoria Ishola.

  68. Dissenter

    Ishola
    “This little fella will not be able to do it all on his own.He won’t at Arsenal and looking at how many goals Sampdoria leaked he couldn’t there either.”

    C’mon man.
    You’ve been beating this drum for weeks now.
    No defensive midfielder can do it alone. It has to be a system approach with good understanding among the midfielders and defense.

  69. champagne charlie

    Dissenter

    Nope, always been like that for me. I watch Arsenal 60 games every year, I just can’t get hype for England or anyone else in the 12 meaningful games bi-annually. Friendlies infuriate me.

    Happy to pass the time and see the undoubted spectacle of a WC, but the excitement I’ll have nearer the final only comes from the fact Arsenal will be on again soon haha

  70. Sancho Monzorla

    If Lemar to Atletico is true then could it be Griezemann is on his way out? To Barca maybe? Or would one have nothing to do with the other?

    Just a faint hope of a sniff at landing Dembele is why I ask.

  71. Frost

    I guess it’s time then, with ornstein reporting it

    *opens “LUCAS TORREIRA – Deadly Skills, Tackles & Passes – 2017/2018 (HD)*

  72. Dissenter

    We’ve needed a mobile two footed midfielder, who loves to tackle and has excellent dead-ball skills. I love the Uruguayan bastardo madness in him as well. The midfielder that will be cunning to dive in critical spaces to give his team a chance. We need guile in this squad.
    If his defensive presence is as good as Kante then he will be a smash signing because he has better attacking ability.

  73. Ishola70

    Frost
    ”They’re sampdoria Ishola.”

    They are a Serie A side that finished 10th.

    60 goals against is a lot to be leaking.

    To put in perspective the two teams that finished 8th and 9th in the league conceded 14 less goals than Sampdoria team that finished 7th 21 less goals conceded than Sampdoria.

  74. Sancho Monzorla

    If Torreira isn’t enough by himself to save Arsenal then why is it one man’s job to stop Sampdoria from conceding 60 in a season?

  75. Victorious

    Graham
    “Maybe my delight and joy at Wenger finally leaving, has hightened my awareness and appreciation of the game in general.”

    Your kind of obsssesion with Wenger is weird,you literally can’t help yourself lumping him in every post you make,wont be surprised when you chip in of his departure upping your bedroom performance.

    you might need to see a professional,ah.

  76. Marko

    If Lemar to Atletico is true then could it be Griezemann is on his way out? To Barca maybe? Or would one have nothing to do with the other?

    I think he’s staying and signing Lemar is Atletico convincing a star player that they’re ambitious. Basically the opposite of what we did with Alexis

  77. Victorious

    We don’t necessarily need someone big. We need someone hard, preferably dirty too. The only periods in the last 12 years when we have looked close to being good enough to being a title winning side we had either Flamini or Coquelin in the side…how Arsene continually reverted to going without that type of player despite the clear evidence having one made us a MUCH better team is something that I will never understand.

    If this lad fits the bill, we will not make a more important signing this summer.

  78. Marko

    The only periods in the last 12 years when we have looked close to being good enough to being a title winning side we had either Flamini or Coquelin in the side

    Never came close to a league title challenge with Coquelin

  79. Ishola70

    Sancho Monzorla
    “If Torreira isn’t enough by himself to save Arsenal then why is it one man’s job to stop Sampdoria from conceding 60 in a season?”

    Who said it was a one man job?

    Sampdoria conceded far too many goals season just gone in comparison others around them in the league. This midfield Torreira was in while he himself is seen as a good player it obviously wasn’t tight defensively as a collective.

    I’d like to see one more DM to play behind Torreira brought in.

  80. Victorious

    The Cazorla-Coquelin partnership was arguably a title winning combo,injuries raring it’s ugly head and other factors coming against ended our title hopes before it even began

  81. Marko

    The only periods in the last 12 years when we have looked close to being good enough to being a title winning side we had either Flamini or Coquelin in the side

    The Cazorla-Coquelin partnership was arguably a title winning combo,injuries raring it’s ugly head and other factors coming against ended our title hopes before it even began

    So we weren’t close to a league title with Coquelin

  82. Ishola70

    Marko

    “So we weren’t close to a league title with Coquelin”

    Before it even began. No that’s not close lol

  83. Frost

    Ishola

    “They are a Serie A side that finished 10th.60 goals against is a lot to be leaking.”

    They’re a mid-table team at best Ishola of course they’re gonna concede goals. 12 teams in the PL last season conceded 54 plus goals. Everton/Leicester finished 8th & 9th in the premier league & conceded 58/60 goals. Again hovering around the 60 goal mark is sort of what happens to mid-table teams. And the fault shouldn’t be on one player as I feel you trying to argue.

    “To put in perspective the two teams that finished 8th and 9th in the league conceded 14 less goals than Sampdoria team that finished 7th 21 less goals conceded than Sampdoria.”

    Fiorentina & Torino conceded 57/60 goals the season before this Ishola.

    Do agree we maybe need someone else in there tho If we plan on playing ramsey further forward. Just don’t see it happening this summer at least.

  84. WengerEagle

    Happy with Toreirra deal, I think that he’s going to be a top class midfielder and look forward to watching him for Uruguay this week.

    Ishola has a point though flagging up concerns about his height and tendency to drive forward at times, ideally we’d sign another midfielder to partner him.

    And Lemar to Atletico almost certainly points to Griezmann leaving for Barcelona.

  85. WengerEagle

    Definitely VG.

    Barca the likely destination and you can’t blame him, he’s given his all for Atleti and brought them a Europa League title in his last game there.

    You simply don’t turn down Barcelona when they come knocking.

  86. Frost

    “You simply don’t turn down Barcelona when they come knocking.”

    Will forever hate those pigs for Henry & Cesc.

  87. Ishola70

    Where have I said that Sampdoria conceding too many goals is the sole fault of Torriera?

    I’ve already said I rate him individually so why would I blame him individually.

    Frost the amount of goals Sampdoria conceded was high in relation to the teams that finished around them. The season just gone that is.

    Frost yes a DM behind him is needed imo. A proper. Not a hybrid one.

    Torreira himself is not a pure DM. So why not back him with a safety net behind.

  88. WengerEagle

    Henry was a cancer on the team in his last season here if we’re being honest. Pains me to say that as he was my favourite player growing up but it’s facts.

    Look at the vast improvement we made the season after he left.

    And Cesc going back there was always inevitable, I’m just glad that we managed to keep him for as long as we did before they came knocking. He was being linked to Real Madrid as well since he was a teenager.

  89. WengerEagle

    Been a little while since I’ve been on here, seen that the Fekir deal broke down.

    Anyone know the full story behind why? Aulas has always been notoriously no-nonsense so doesn’t come as a shock to us.

  90. Akilan

    There’s a fantastic account in Twitter named IFTV(Italian Football TV), dedicated to Serie A. This is a neutral account that tries to connect Serie A with the rest of the world. IMO, they do a better job of advertising the Italian Football than their association themselves. A must follow and I’m pretty sure many here already do.

    If you look at the number of times they’ve posted about Lucas Torreira over the last week, you’ll know how highly they rate him. Remember he’s a non Italian player that’s been in Serie A for 2,3 years at most and is already a fan favourite.

  91. Ishola70

    WengerEagle
    “and tendency to drive forward at times, ideally we’d sign another midfielder to partner him.”

    Not so much his height but he likes to spring away from the holding position for interceptions and pressing and these are some of the reasons he is rated.

    With a player like this it makes sense to me to have some insurance. A player playing behind him.

  92. WengerEagle

    Ishola

    William Carvalho wouldn’t be a bad shout?

    I know that he’s not as highly rated as he used to be but he performs really well for Portugal in the holding role and he’s definitely available given the crisis at Sporting Lisbon with their fans and president who’s a nutter.

    Supreme physicality, intelligent, distributes the ball well and he’s not too adventurous. Also a good age.

    I like the idea of him next to Toreirra as stature wise it’s reminiscent of himself and Moutinho.

  93. Sancho Monzorla

    I reckon Antoine Griezmann’s a a gonner.

    You heard it here first folks. Ousmane Dembele is gonna be a Gooner!

  94. WengerEagle

    Quite an incredible two years for Julian Lopetegui, finishes second best to Benfica twice in the Portuguese League going trophy-less both seasons and somehow manages to swing not just the Spain NT gig, but now the Real Madrid position at club level.

    Will be very interesting to see how well Spain perform at the World Cup.

  95. Ishola70

    Yeah not bad shout.

    He would certainly sit behind Torreira and this would allow Torreira to do his stuff and what he is rated for in the knowledge that he has that safety net.

    But this idea may be alien to more than enough fans, A sitting holding DM.

  96. WengerEagle

    I can see a Dembele to Juventus loan, they are the king of organising those loan deals between top clubs.

    Still think it’s a mistake to let him go given his skill-set which is unique in that entire squad but i guess if they have to in order to fund Griezmann then so be it.

  97. Sancho Monzorla

    Gotta sell some players before we sign another CM/CDM, I reckon.

    Maybe Danny and Xhaka have an amazing WC and we can unload both after the tournament.

  98. Champagne charlie

    Weagle

    Liverpool had the makings of a deal all but agreed but when Fekir did his medical people Liverpool’s end weren’t totally happy with how his surgery went and tried a renegotiation on that basis.

    Aulas told them to swivel and pulled the plug. It’s VVD all over again and either they’ll get him last min or they’ll pay a bit more.

  99. WengerEagle

    Ishola

    That’s the beauty of it though, couldn’t give a toss what the fans think it’s what Emery prefers that really matters, or Sven to a lesser extent.

    If he believes in Xhaka then we’re all set for disappointment.

  100. Champagne charlie

    Weagle

    Everton fancy Carvalho, but according to their scouts there’s a real concern over his mobility. If people think Xhaka is slow then just watch him try and go through the gears

  101. WengerEagle

    CC

    Ah right, was it on the basis that his mobility isn’t one hundred percent post-surgery as we often see with serious knee injuries or that he’s more susceptible to a re-occurrence of an ACL in the future?

    By most accounts his mobility hasn’t been impaired at all and he’s as quick as he was before it happened.

    Yeah, likely still happens Aulas is renowned for being a stickler and squeezing every last penny out of buying clubs, Lyon have always sold really well and gotten great fees for their stars.

  102. Akilan

    Ishola,
    I think Xhaka will partner him at the start of the season. If his performances don’t improve, we will see Ramsey/Elneny/AMN at CM.

    Though I hated Xhaka midseason, it is not entirely on him. Wenger set him upto fail. He was left all alone in the midfield by Ramsey & Ozil(thank you Wenger), his weaknesses got terribly exposed. He lacks concentration and the mentality of a DM though. He’s also a bit thick and daft.

    Maybe with Torreira & Ramsey & better structure and coaching from Emery, he can play to his strengths. May be.

    I don’t think we’re bringing in another starter in the midfield. We need a starting goalie and a dribbler/winger.

  103. WengerEagle

    CC

    Yeah Carvalho is extremely one-paced, better defensively than Xhaka though for my money.

    Somebody is getting a bargain for him this summer though, he’s a very good player.

  104. Ishola70

    Being one-paced doesn’t matter so much if your role is to sit in the DM position.

    Xhaka’s mobility issues are heightened because of how he plays and has been asked to play. Not sitting.

    And I don’t think anyone thinks it is a great idea to ask Xhaka to sit.

  105. Frost

    Ishola

    Bringing up the number of goals a mid-table team conceded in a season was basically you implying he should have on his own brought the number down. You only as good as your team. His defensive stats prove he did his bit.

    Anyways stupid argument, you’ve cleared that up. Fingers crossed he starts posting Kante-like numbers over here.

    “yes a DM behind him is needed imo. A proper. Not a hybrid one.”

    I see the sense in this considering he likes to spring out & make interceptions but we gonna have to sell Xhaka for this to happen & I just don’t see it happening this summer. Read somewhere that emery rates Xhaka too.

    This is basically where we start praying Xhaka fools some team by having a good worldcup

  106. Champagne charlie

    Weagle

    Pretty certain it’s the potential for reinjury that’s causing concern. It’s hard to judge whether it’s Aulas being Aulas, or if he’s genuinely fucked them off and prefers to bank on Fekir doing bits in the WC and whoring him after.

  107. Ishola70

    Frost

    What I was getting at with the amount of goals that Sampdoria conceded was don’t think Torreira along with Xhaka is going to make the midfield base water tight or as tight as some would like.

    The way Torreira plays Xhaka is going to find himself last man in front of the defence enough times.

  108. Akilan

    Is Carvalho really that much better than Xhaka? Xhaka looked just as good in Germany. Both are lumbering slow ass passers. What’s the point in replacing Xhaka with a black, slightly less daft Xhaka?

    Does anybody know about the Michael Sanson? fella we were linked with.

    Anyway I think Xhaka is staying put and you better be ready to accept it. I’m optimistic he’ll come good under Emery. That fucker owes it.

  109. kc

    Torreira is the proper DM we’ve been missing. A true ball hound with great vision for the game. Sure we’d all love it if he was a foot taller, but I’m not sure Arsenal would have a chance at him if he was. His price would easily double if not triple. These are the type of gems we need to be digging out.

  110. Frost

    Arsenal are set to sign Bayer Leverkusen goalkeeper Bernd Leno, with an ‘announcement in the pipeline’. [SportBILD] #afc

  111. Frost

    Bernd Leno’s move to Arsenal is getting closer, with talks ongoing between Arsenal & Bayer Leverkusen. [@FabrizioRomano] #afc

  112. Vintage Gun

    “You simply don’t turn down Barcelona when they come knocking.”

    I agree.

    Griezmann showed his potential at Sociedad, and earned his corn surviving and thriving under General Simeone’s physically brutal regime adding class and finesse.

  113. Frost

    Meanwhile

    “Only Oliver Baumann (10) has made more errors leading to an opposition goal in the Bundesliga since 2015/16 than Bernd Leno (9). [Opta] #afc”

  114. Cesc Appeal

    I see, Arsenal are a football club, was confused for the last 10 years, but the last month or so has cleared it up.

  115. KAY Boss

    lemar is good but not exceptional. the club can’t satisfy all @ a go. even if sign messi, ronaldo, bale etc some are sign people will still moan. one man isn’t responsible for his club conceding a lot of goals. WC helps while away time judiciously. looking forward to it though.

  116. Cesc Appeal

    Lichsteiner, Sokratis, Torreira and Leno and our issue in terms of balance and defence would appear sorted to a large degree.

    Still seems we want Soyuncu and look as if we’re trying to get a winger with Martins most likely.

    Thank you Gazidis.

  117. Akilan

    Ishola,
    Xhaka looked decent in bundesliga, didn’t he? We don’t know how Carvalho would’ve played in Arsenal midfield last season.

    I don’t think he’s that big an improvement on Xhaka. Xhaka is one of the daftest players I’ve seen though.

    If we want to replace Xhaka, let it be with a guy like kondogbia. Someone with pace and mobility. I’m not convinced Carvalho can improve us that much.

  118. Sancho Monzorla

    What’s the verdict on Leno then? I’ve heard his name shouted out on LeGrove since over a year ago. Some say he is very good, other’s say very bad.

    Sounds like a talented keeper that makes a lot of mistakes. Shouldn’t we have just kept Szczesny then? Not that I was a diehard supporter of Shezzer.

  119. WengerEagle

    Love the Toreirra signing, like the Lichtsteiner signing, Sokratis could go either way so prepared to give the club the benefit of the doubt on that one even though I have reservations on him as a defender.

    Don’t like the Soyuncu links, especially for the thirty million figure being bandied about. Surely we can bring in better with that kind of money?

    I want a unit at the heart of the defence too, we already have three guys in Mustafi, Kos and Holding that sit just about at/ barely cross over the 6 foot mark so wouldn’t be thrilled to be adding two more CB’s that lack height and presence.

  120. Ishola70

    Akilan

    Konogbia is very decent and he looks good because of mobility and physicality and that he can also contribute in an offensive way.

    But is he going to make the base of the Arsenal midfield tight? He has discipline problems in regards his positioning in a defensive sense more than enough times.

    You don’t have to be great physically or look good running around to play a sitting DM role and Arsenal seem to be signing a player that is going to be doing more than enough running around himself in Torreira. For those that wanted a runner for Xhaka well he is the ultimate runner.

  121. Cesc Appeal

    WE

    The £35 Million is a lot but I think it will be offset by the sales of Mustafi and Chambers, could easily get the fee back.

    I think that Mavropanos is being viewed as the CB of the future, there is your big CB at 6ft 4, the idea is probably Mavropanos and Soyuncu as the future CB pairing.

    I would like to see us really try and spend a fair amount on a winger.

  122. McBright is Wright

    @Graham 62
    i share your sentiments on the world cup. i never missed a single game since italia 90.