Arsenal signing elite super kids again

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Friends of Le Grove, welcome to the Sunday show.

So, the big news first of all… Arsenal are back in the mixer for signing children. We’ve bagged Joel Lopez, a 15-year-old from Barcelona. Good times. Remember the days when we’d have gaping holes in our squad and we’d go out and sign Giles Sunu as our first target. You’d complain and fans would say… ‘SHUT UP MATE YOU HAVE TO DO THIS, MORE TO COME’… then nothing would come and we’d all be sad. Then Sunu would end up being shite. Then we’d be even sadder.

No more…

Torriera looks like he could be close to joining, the Jean Seri rumours won’t die and we’re still linked to Caglar Soyuncu.

Get ourselves a keeper and it’d be hard to deny we’re having a great summer.

Sometimes, online, you land yourself in a debate you immediately regret. I did that when it was announced the Arsenal Magazine had closed down. People immediately looked for reasons as to its demise, pointing out the very real threat of digital media on print.

My views is there are many reasons the magazine folded.

Firstly, marketing basics. If you’re a magazine, your sole purpose for existence is elite content. If you’re selling a magazine to football fans, it needs to offer up something they’re interested in. GQ don’t put average people on their front covers for a reason. The last 10 years under Wenger have been painful. They’ve lacked progress, high points, or anything press worthy a club could write about. Yes, spaces like this have thrived, but that’s because we can write about whatever the fuck we want.

The demise of Arsene’s magic touch was certainly a factor in declining sales of magazines. Do I have the exact numbers? No. But let’s be real here, our ability to thrive commercially tells you all you need to know about fan propensity to spend. Our shirt deal is substandard, the amount of commercial partners we boast compared to United is pitiful, and no one is looking to break any records to give us a new kit deal. We are not appealing to sponsors, because we don’t win. If fans don’t look at your product association with Arsenal and want to buy, that’s an issue that can be extrapolated into broader elements like what our ability to sell to a global fanbase looks like.

More circumstantial evidence is sentiment around the club, it’s been appalling. Fans weren’t showing up to tickets they’d purchased. The notion that this didn’t impact the sales of all sorts of things is ignorant. To think this wouldn’t have impacted the sales of a magazine or a matchday programme even more so.

Then look at who our partner was for the magazine… Trinity Mirror Group. An organization that has been tanking for years. The magazine looked like shit, it was positioned poorly, and the content ended up online. There was literally no reason to buy it.

Then the question was, how do you buy it? I’ve never been served an advert for it.

Print is struggling, but it’s not dead. There has been a resurgence of fancy mags over the last few years. Mundial, Monocle, Cereal Mag, Racquet and Fantastic Man are just a few examples of publications that are getting it right. They’re beautifully art directed, they’re small batch collectables, they have exclusive content just for print, and the work is always excellent.

If Arsenal wanted to make print work, they could. They could partner with a small print house, do a limited batch run, fill it with exclusive offline-only work, fan op-eds, historical revists, and detailed insights into what goes on behind the scenes. And not the basic bitch shit, I’m talking to sort of work that goes into books (like the GFFN Emery interviews).

They could have made it interesting from a distribution perspective. Look services like Birch Box, where they send you a package of goodies every month for a small fee. Imagine getting a beautiful coffee magazine with some other exclusive club apparel (badge pins, scarves, salt beef bagel coupons). They could tie it up with a paid for app where you could pay to get exlusive long-form content, a bit like a Patreon. It might have podcasts, audiobook stye long reads, and first access to interviews.

There are so many ways Arsenal could have made print a part of the experience. They gave up. The decision would have considered many factors. Their deal with Trinity probably came to a close, they might have shifted staff aroud, and they might have weighed up the chances of a bounce-back being unlikely this year. But let’s not pretend it’s just because print is shite. I feel like Arsenal fans are very quick to give in to the party line, like when the common view was money was the only way for Arsenal to succeed.

… my point here is Arsenal could make this work if they wanted. Vinyl is still a thing, because people like records and bands realised that they could make the product an experience exclusive designs and easter eggs. Hardback books are still a thing, because people like having them on their shelves. Amazon just bought Wholefoods because people still need brick and mortar shops.

Digital has the ability to disrupt many things, but at core, we’re still a tactile species and there will always be a place for the tangible, even in something as fleeting as football.

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  1. El Pige

    Certainly exciting to see we are targeting our perceived weaker areas of the squad. Interesting to see how many of the linked names we can get over the line and what we have up our sleeves as an alternative if we fail to land our first choice. Exciting times.

  2. qna

    Bamford: “Right, but our first aim IS to finish top four, not to win the title. So signings aimed at making us more defensively solid, or aimed at improving the mentality or level of experience in the squad, make sense.

    We are just kicking the can down the road. We will be in the same position every year with this approach. I can’t see us making top 4 either way when I look at the direction the top 5 are going.

    “Plus the window doesn’t close for another two months. We’re linked to Torreira, Leno, Klostermann, Martins, Draxler. Relax.”

    Lol. You must be new. These names are just the usual annual click bait. We may get one of those if we are lucky.

  3. Marc

    Apparently there was a piece in the Islington Gazette (local paper for our overseas guys) during the season about businesses close to the stadium complaining about reduced turnover on match day due to people just not going.

    It’s very easy to forget but the club is bigger and about more than just kick off on match day.

  4. Chris

    I still remember when Arsenal published 2 magazines a month. One regular publication and the other was a poster magazine.

    It’s like you say Pedro, the club magazine as of late wasn’t edgy in the slightest. Really rather cookie cutter. Think it was aimed at a teen age range mainly who may not appreciate some of the improvements you suggest.

    Still looking forward in a few years to some autobiographies that may lift the lid on the inner workings of the late Wenger era.

  5. jasongms

    “Get ourselves a keeper and it’d be hard to deny we’re having a great summer.”

    LOL, what a crock…

  6. champagne charlie

    qna

    so what was your offerings for what you’d consider a good summer?

    You reject the current approach, so what would you see us do differently if not identify weaknesses in the XI and rectify them with savvy purchasing cognisant of a budget and somewhat weakened stance?

  7. Receding hairline

    This Qna dude would have been funny if he wasn’t so irritating

    The guy literally cares only about the transfer fee and his ability to brag about it. You are supporting the wrong club for that. Headover to Manchester they spend money likes it’s going out of fashion because they actually have it. Arsenal don’t.

  8. TheLegendaryDB10

    From previous thread:

    G62

    Still trying to work out why people are so impatient.

    I have been wondering the same. The season is far from having started and some are hoping we spend 200 mil to get the team right. I seriously wonder how much they know their club at some point.

    I fear that throughout this season some will show the same impatience. I said it before and I will say it again: it will take a full season for the players and the new system to gel. So all of you, just fucking relax and enjoy the new era, regardless of what happens unless it really, really is total shit. But I doubt this. From what I see, Unai is a real thinker who has a plan!!

  9. Receding hairline

    @ Charlie

    His strategy is simple.. Buy the most expensive players up for sale in every window

    This dude once referred to Lacazette as a Europa league striker yet he is here daily pining for Fekir.. Another Europa league level player if we go by his twisted reasoning

    He just wants names.. Buy them.. Sell them next window.. Buy new names

  10. Marc

    Apparently QNA wants us to replace Gazidis and Sanllehi with Peter Ridsdale thinks he has the ambition and track record to do what needs doing.

  11. TheLegendaryDB10

    For all you Gooners:

    The board may be happy with 4th, but I will tell you something: Unai being a real coach will want to win something. And in his mind it’s be first or nothing.

  12. Marc

    TheLegendaryDB10

    I still say you don’t bring in people of the calibre of Sanllehi & Sven etc if you don’t have ambition.

    They just wouldn’t join.

  13. Chika

    Victorious

    Yeah things have been quiet on that front lately but I really hope we’d sign a GK.
    Above all, I’m more interested in the shape and system Emery will instill.

  14. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Looks like this soyarun fellow looks a done deal…

    Who gets squeezed out

    Mustafi 6/4
    Koncisrkly. 3/1
    Holding 6/1
    Chambers 15/2

    Ya get me

  15. Akilan

    OK, Auba scored 31 goals for BVB last season in the league(31 goals in 31(1) apps).

    He’s scored 10 in 13 in the PL. So, we can expect him to have a 30+ goals season(hope I didn’t jinx it).

    A fit and firing Lacazette can score atleast 20+ goals in the league. After the WC snub, he should be hungry and he looked back to his best towards the back end of the season.

    If Emery can get them to play together without compromising their goalscoring prowess, that’s 50+ goals from our strikers.

    With Ramsey, Mkhi and Ozil, our attackers if they click can carry us into the top 4,regardless of however shite our defense might be.

  16. Marc

    Akilan

    Yeah but imagine if we could tighten up at the back as well?

    If history has taught us one thing it’s that the “if you score 2 we’ll score 3″ mentality just doesn’t work.

  17. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Cech

    Soyuncu marvonal papa ( don’t preach)

    Bel terrier. Rambo kolansic / Mikki

    Ozil

    Laca bang bang

  18. Marko

    The Barcelona kid whose name we can’t say and Adli are totally irrelevant signings right now. Hardly strengthen the first team and may not ever even make it so they’re not worth the time talking about them. The only thing that matters this summer is strengthening the starting 11

  19. champagne charlie

    Marko

    What was your response to the Fekir fiasco? Missed that, which is unlike your usual updates of Liverpools business..

  20. Receding hairline

    Yes Adil is totally irrelevant.. However if your lord and master Klopp had signed him you will be here telling us all how smart he was to forsee a future star

    Some of you have zero shame

  21. Receding hairline

    @ Charlie

    Liverpool will still sign Fekir.. All they have done is play themselves again just like the VVD deal… They will end up paying more than the player is worth and Marko, Qna and gang will ride up here to tell us how smart they are followed by a sermon on their trajectory.

    Meanwhile the trophy cabinet is still collecting dust

  22. Freddie Ljungberg

    Adli is 18 this summer and is probably brought in to play early EL and the cups, no comparison to the barca kid, he’s what, 15, 16?

    I’m not that convinced by any of the young CBs we’re linked with. Is it worth spending 25-35m on a young defender if they’re not absolutely top quality?

    We have plenty of decent young center backs already, no need to add to the collection unless they’re exceptional.

    Would like to see 1 more CM in though if we get Torreira, Doucoure would be perfect.

    Being able to choose between Torreira, Doucoure and Ramsey (Elneny, AMN) as the midfield base depending on who we play and form would be great. Would elevate our team more then a slight improvement at the back.

  23. Marko

    Yeah they probably just added a few million onto his eventual pricetag Charlie. Don’t hustle Aulas and that mad cunt running Napoli they are notorious.

  24. TheLegendaryDB10

    Graham

    That’s exactly our current problem at the moment. We are not appealing enough to investors as we are not visible enough to be an appealing investment … yet. But … as long as we show some commitment, as we are now, the trend will reverse.

    We are a sleeping giant who are just waiting to explode. Once we do, we can squish these fuckers up the road without any problem whatsoever.

  25. champagne charlie

    Receding

    I’m well aware mate, just curious how Marko is going to spin it for his beloved Liverpool who he’s been waxing lyrical about for weeks now.

    Could you imagine if Arsenal had gotten a public dressing down and fucked another few million onto a deal? I’m sure he’d find a few things to mention. Oddly he seems quiet about their fuckups.

  26. qna

    Charlie: what was your offerings for what you’d consider a good summer? You reject the current approach, so what would you see us do differently if not identify weaknesses in the XI and rectify them with savvy purchasing cognisant of a budget and somewhat weakened stance?

    Charlie I have already said this numerous times. Top 4 is out of our reach in the short term. We need to go down a long term path of rebuilding, similar to Monaco and Dortmund.

    This does not mean mega signings at all. On the contrary it makes use of the talents of Raul and Sven to identify young players that are capable of being elite. We then need to develop those players, by playing them. We have enough senior players to help develop these players. But we should not be adding more senior players.

    Terraria does fit this criteria, as I have said. Despite me personally not rating him from YouTube, which is irrelevant anyway, I do trust Sven and Raul so if they buy him, then so be it. I am also a fan of this Turkish CB. Like I said, the signing I am most excited about so far is Adli. I would like us to add more of these type of player and less 29 year olds.

    We also need to clear out all of the players that have no hope of becoming elite players. Welbeck and Elneny being the most obvious no hopers. But there are plenty more.

    Forget about top 4. We won’t get there next season. Our squad is too far off. We will finish 6-8 regardless. What we can hope to acheive is developing the next Dembele or Mbappe, if Sven can identify such players. Within 2-3 years of this strategy we may have a team of enough quality to compete, achieved within our means. By that time these 29 year olds that make up our current team will be irrelevant, so replacing them over this period is also paramount.

  27. Marko

    They will end up paying more than the player is worth and Marko, Qna and gang will ride up here to tell us how smart they are followed by a sermon on their trajectory.

    Hardly surprising is it they already had a good squad and have improved their starting 11 with Fabinho and It’s. Don’t be jelly lad

  28. Receding hairline

    @ Charlie

    You find it odd.. I don’t

    I have already concluded long ago that many on here aren’t exactly Arsenal fans.. They just love the avenue the blog affords them to sprout nonsense and appear knowledgeable

    Whenever Arsenal is criticized every one is happy and on board.. Dare say a bad word about Liverpool or Spurs and they come for you so Marko doesn’t surprise me with his silence I expected it

  29. Marko

    just curious how Marko is going to spin it for his beloved Liverpool who he’s been waxing lyrical about for weeks now.

    You’re hilarious. It’s June 10th and they’ve strengthened their starting 11 to the tune of two brilliant midfielders and we’ve done nothing. Just stating facts there and for some reason you and the numpties are upset about people talking about it

  30. champagne charlie

    “We will finish 6-8 regardless. What we can hope to acheive is developing the next Dembele or Mbappe”

    Really odd view of growing a football club.

    I’ll bet you any money you want we don’t finish outside the top 6, that idea is laughable i’m afraid. Totally bananas.

    Arsenal have 5 CB on the books and the ages are 32, 26, 23, 22, 20. Adding a 29 year old to that is precisely what we need. Talking about adding a 17 to the fray is such a bizarre take on advancing the side.

    Arsenal need what we don’t have, and we’re addressing that going by the mooted movements.

  31. Marko

    Marko doesn’t surprise me with his silence I expected it

    Yeah it’s silence because there’s not really anything Arsenal to talk about.

  32. Receding hairline

    @Marko

    Hold off the accolades and throwing the word brilliant around till a ball is kicked

    Hope you know everyone doesn’t start next season from the point they left off the last so pipe down with the Liverpool rim job

  33. champagne charlie

    Marko

    Don’t care much about those talking about it, but you’re fixated by every other sides movement and always direct it back to our own in some lame attempt to take shots at Arsenal. It’s fucking sad.

    Liverpool finished 4th last season, and it wasn’t because they couldn’t score. But they’ve not even looked at their back 5. If it was Arsenal you’d be far more “measured” (your version at least) and question why the funds aren’t being used on the more glaring squad holes.

    You’re the very same guy who’d criticise if we signed Dembele tomorrow because we conceded 60 goals last season etc.

  34. TheLegendaryDB10

    Qna

    But we should not be adding more senior players.

    You seem to forget that these senior players you are referring to were being coached buy Wenger. As you should know this means fuck all, considering their actual lack of real coaching. Hence these buys of players who actually know what a demanding system means.

  35. Marko

    Hey idiot if they end up signing him what does it matter? Also Keita and Fabinho are excellent midfielders they’ll be alright absolutely could have done with them at Arsenal

  36. Marko

    Don’t care much about those talking about it, but you’re fixated by every other sides movement and always direct it back to our own in some lame attempt to take shots at Arsenal. It’s fucking sad.

    Yeah because usually other teams address squad issues and usually we don’t. It’s not unfair to criticize us in the transfer market we are that bad.

    Don’t care much about those talking about it, but you’re fixated by every other sides movement and always direct it back to our own in some lame attempt to take shots at Arsenal. It’s fucking sad. Liverpool finished 4th last season, and it wasn’t because they couldn’t score. But they’ve not even looked at their back 5.

    They spent 75 million on a defender and are looking at a keeper. Try again

  37. Marko

    Receding I can’t talk to you you’re clearly not into serious discussions and are only here on the windup

  38. champagne charlie

    “Hey idiot if they end up signing him what does it matter?”

    So this applies to when Arsenal try and haggle, bettering the deal financially for themselves right? If Arsenal end up signing the player what does it matter…

    Except that’s absolutely not the case with you and your twitchy playstation thumbs.

  39. champagne charlie

    “They spent 75 million on a defender and are looking at a keeper. Try again”

    again, Arsenal are looking at loads of players…

    Klopps been at Liverpool for 2.5 years and has bought ONE CB of note. Emery hasn’t met the fucking squad and he’s bringing one in, so why the childish Arsenal quips daily?

  40. Receding hairline

    Marko nothing you write here is ever serious

    All you do here is tell us how far off Arsenal are from your beloved Liverpool.. Let’s wait till the season starts eh

    Now run along…

  41. Marko

    Valencia apparently close to Guedes for 50 million. Seems to be the going rate for a top class winger/wide forward. Any news on Welbeck getting a new contract? 😉

  42. Marko

    So this applies to when Arsenal try and haggle, bettering the deal financially for themselves right? If Arsenal end up signing the player what does it matter…

    So glad you said that yeah we’ve a great track record don’t we I mean we did sign Ronaldo right? Xabi Alonso? That Suarez bid worked out well didnt it

  43. qna

    “Really odd view of growing a football club. I’ll bet you any money you want we don’t finish outside the top 6, that idea is laughable i’m afraid. Totally bananas.Arsenal have 5 CB on the books and the ages are 32, 26, 23, 22, 20. Adding a 29 year old to that is precisely what we need. Talking about adding a 17 to the fray is such a bizarre take on advancing the side.Arsenal need what we don’t have, and we’re addressing that going by the mooted movements.”

    It’s unlikely we finish outside the top 6, I agree. But there are plenty of ambitious clubs. We weren’t far off falling outside this year.

    It’s not an odd way of looking at the club. It’s exactly where we finished this season. We didn’t finish smack bang in the middle of top 4. We finished in the middle of 6-8. Wenger has brought this squad to its knees and we haven’t improved it yet. The only thing you are all agreeing on is that a change in manager is going to change the quality of the players. I accept it is possible. But my view of our squad is not based on Wenger. I have called most of these guys as being rubbish or below what is needed for a title winning team before they joined the club. The only player we have signed in the past few years that I have liked is Aubamayang. Before that Sanchez and Ozil. Pretty much nobody prior to that has excited me for a great many years. So my view is the squad finished exactly where they deserved to finish. I also don’t expect the new manager to come in and immediately surpass Wenger, because he has had 20 years experience and all that experience took this squad to their final position. It was no accident, he may have even over achieved. I don’t expect Emery to do better than Wenger with this squad. But as we improve the squad I expect Emery to do better than Wenger would have.

    As for those CBs and all the players we are talking about. Those ages don’t really matter. I am only interested in quality. I am accused of being a transfer price snob. That is far from the truth if you read my posts over the years. I accept that it appears that way because I am actually a quality snob. I am only interested in players that have elite qualities. We have had them too. Santi, Cesc, Nasri, RVP, Alexis, Mesut. If they dont have this quality then for me they are pointless. Usually they cost more, which is why I accept the criticism that I get. But I have been calling for Fekir for years now. Long before he hit this price. For VVD before he even moved to Southampton. For Mahrez before the Leicester season started. For Mane before he moved to Liverpool. For Hazard, the year we signed forehead. If I see a player with quality that’s when I mention him. Never the price. The price is of course high because I am not a scout with access to players, so usually by the time I rate them, so do the other big clubs. Usually its because of their interest that I even search for them. I am not pretending to be an armchair scout. On the contrary it’s you people who think you can find this type of elite talent and want them in our club despite the lack of interest from the other top clubs. For me that is the arrogance.

    We finally have a scout with a track record of finding players like Dembele before they are ready for Barca to pay 100m for them. I only want to let Sven do his work. Lichtensteiner and Sokratis only serve to block us from giving game time to the next big things that Sven or Raul might unearth.

  44. Marko

    Your Klopps been at Liverpool for 2.5 years and has bought ONE CB of note. Emery hasn’t met the fucking squad and he’s bringing one in, so why the childish Arsenal quips daily?

    In case you haven’t realised it nothing has changed right now these issues haven’t been addressed and until they are it’s quite reasonable to be sceptical as fuck cause you know Arsenal have a tendency to disappoint their fans . And no signing up a back up RB doesn’t change much. Had we strengthened our first team like a rival who shall not be named then there’d be no complaints

  45. Marko

    We finally have a scout with a track record of finding players like Dembele

    We also had a scout who “found” Dembele only we weren’t inclined to actually do anything about the player

  46. qna

    Legendary: You seem to forget that these senior players you are referring to were being coached buy Wenger. As you should know this means fuck all, considering their actual lack of real coaching. Hence these buys of players who actually know what a demanding system means.

    I disagree. The players quality is what it is. We have been buying players that are mediocre before they arrive. Elneny, Welbeck, Mustafi. They are what they are. You can’t polish a turd.

  47. qna

    “We also had a scout who “found” Dembele only we weren’t inclined to actually do anything about the player”

    That’s bullshit though. He conveniently tell us the names of the successful players he found but didn’t sign. What about the unsuccessful ones. He bought who he rated. He didn’t rate the ones he didn’t buy enough. You only deserve credit for the ones that you bring in and who succeed. Otherwise it’s just talk. Convincing them is as important as finding them. Developing them is even more important.

  48. Graham62

    It now seems we have a new breed of gooner.

    THE DOOM AND GLOOM MERCHANTS.

    All I wanted was Wenger out. All this crap about investing millions in players we may or may not need is totally irrelevant at this moment in time, as far as I’m concerned.

    Yes, @ qna “Wenger has brought this squad to it’s knees” but who’s to say Emery can’t motivate these very same players to perform to a far higher level?…………………….Actually, I am confident he will.

    Have confidence and belief in Emery and give him some time to sort things out. Shit, Wenger cocked things up for so long, it seems some of you have forgotten what trust is all about.

    Just be happy that things are changing.

  49. Graham62

    I remember a few months back I actually stated, out of desperation,that I would have taken Tony Pulis instead of Wenger.

    So having Emery at the helm is the equivalent of winning the state lottery as far as I’m concerned.

    Bring it on!

  50. TheLegendaryDB10

    Qna

    Ok. With the 3 players you listed (Elneny, Welbeck, Mustafi) I can agree. It just seemed that you were painting all senior players with the same brush. With Mustafi, I am curious to see whether he is salvageable with coaching as he was supposedly something before he came to us. But Elneny and Welbeck, I definitively see them being sold, if not this season, most certainly the next.

  51. TheLegendaryDB10

    Hillwood

    Have you been to a F1 race before? If not, it is quite something to experience. My only F1 race I saw was at Dubai where I saw Hamilton win the 2014 season.

    Something I really would like to experience though is WRC. It is a very different beast!!

  52. Samesong

    Samesong
    I’m off to the German GP at Hockenheim next month
    Looking forward to it

    Nice Hill. That should be a good race championship getting interesting.

  53. HillWood

    DB10
    This will be my 6th time. You can’t beat the the experience live at the circuit for the weekend

  54. HillWood

    Samesong
    I’m lucky enough to have been to
    Monza
    Barcelona
    Silverstone
    Spa
    Austria
    Hockenheim next
    I got interested in F1 when Hunt was going for the title

  55. Bamford10

    QNA

    “Forget about top 4. We won’t get there next season. Our squad is too far off.”

    This is nonsense. We might be a ways off from a title challenge, but we’re not a ways off from a third or fourth place finish. This is partly just whiny negativity on your part, but it is also partly grounded in your underlying (and erroneous) view that only £50m players are good enough, a view that I and others have taken you to task for in the past.

    If we were to add a Leno, a Sokratis, a Torreira and a Klostermann — totally doable — we could have the following starting XI,

    __________Leno
    Bell___Sokr___Mavr___Klos
    ___Torreira____Xhaka
    _________Ramsey
    Ozil______Auba_______Mkhi

    and we could easily secure a fourth place finish. We finished 12 and 14 points behind 3rd (Tottenham) and 4th (Liverpool) , respectively, but the XI above could close that gap.

    If we added a wide player, say Martins, as well, then

  56. HillWood

    Samesong
    Purely for the track I would say Spa
    I don’t think a weekend at the race is too expensive when you consider it’s £50 ish for 90minutes of Premiership football

  57. Bamford10

    If we were to add a wide player as well — say a Martins — then we would be even more likely to finish top four, as the starting XI below

    __________Leno
    Bell___Sokr___Mavr___Klos
    ___Torreira____Xhaka
    _________Ramsey
    Martns_____Auba______Ozil

    could definitely challenge Spurs, Liverpool and United for third and fourth.

    The doom and gloom and pessimism is unwarranted.

  58. Samesong

    Not bad Hill.

    Did you see that cock up at the end of the race they only did 68 / 70 laps because Hamilton mate waved the chequered flag too early.

  59. TheLegendaryDB10

    Samesong and Hillwood

    (I envy you Hillwood!)

    Although I’ve experienced the new engines, I did watch Formula 3 as a mate of my parents knew one of the drivers (who actually progressed into F2 that year . Can’t remember the name I am afraid) and the noise IS exhilarating. I can understand the argument about going back to yesteryear. Your chest just vibrates every time they go past. And if you don’t have any noise blocking headphones, you are deaf after 10 laps!!!

  60. HillWood

    Yes mate
    I thought she was some Canadian celebrity
    It could have been catastrophic if the fans thought the race had ended and gone on the track as they do

  61. HillWood

    DB10
    The cars sounded like a bag of nails when traction control was allowed. They used to deliberately misfire the engines

  62. Champagne charlie

    “In case you haven’t realised it nothing has changed right now these issues haven’t been addressed and until they are it’s quite reasonable to be sceptical as fuck cause you know Arsenal have a tendency to disappoint their fans . And no signing up a back up RB doesn’t change much. Had we strengthened our first team like a rival who shall not be named then there’d be no complaints”

    We’ve restructured the club, hired a DoF, a coveted head scout, and changed manager for the first time in 22 years and you’re still so ignorant to treat Arsenal as he same entity of the last decade?

    Which is it Marko, was it Wenger or some other force holding us back? Because you banged on about getting rid of him, but ever since that’s happened you’re banging on about not doing something else. Arsenal have entered a new chapter, you’re an arrogant fuckwit if you think you’re in any position to assume how we’ll operate this summer. It’s one massive question mark.

    Grow the fuck up.

  63. Champagne charlie

    Qna

    Nah I’m not on board with much of what you said there mate. Arsenal aren’t blocking he next Cannavaro by buying Sokratis. We need a CB right now, he’s one or right now. The same right now that defines whether or not we have CL next season. So the club is aiming at the correct profile for me.

    I absolutely don’t buy your 6-8 “nowhere near top 4” patter. We were nowhere near top 4 last season because Wenger absolutely hit the proverbial wall. He’s gone mate, we have new blood managing us and that will get a rise out of what we already have.

    I’d comfortably say if we had Emery last season we would’ve made top 4 with the same players. That’s the level this change brings. When you consider that, plus the likely additions, we are absolutely in the fight for top 4.

    This club to its knees nonsense is exactly that. Hyperbolic drama at its finest. Arsenal aren’t missing chunks from a team, we’re missing a few starters AND most importantly a system and philosophy that the players can learn and ‘perfect’ week on week. We’ve had none of that for a good while now and it’s going to be mental to witness some of these guys flourish with the right guidance.

  64. TonyD

    What an embarrassment Bellerin is both on and off the pitch:

    “Bellerin snubbed by Sky (twice)

    If Hector Bellerin ever wants to spend a weekend incognito, he would be wise to book up another attendance at a Formula One grand prix.

    Already snubbed by Spain for this summer’s World Cup, the Arsenal full-back was also ignored by broadcasters Sky before the race, with presenter Martin Brundle even asking him to move aside so he could speak to Winnie Harlow instead.

    If that wasn’t enough Ted Kravitz even failed to recognise who he was when he appeared on the screen after qualifying, saying: ‘Some hipsters around here with shaved hair and shorts and cool rose-coloured glasses.

    ‘He looks quite cool, that guy in the singlet, doesn’t he? Right, sorry, I got distracted by the hipsters.'”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-5827717/Five-things-missed-Canadian-Grand-Prix.html

  65. Cesc Appeal

    Bellerin does need slapping back into order, his head is so far up his own arse maybe that is why he literally cannot pick someone out in the box.

  66. Kay

    I will definitely be happy with Torriera, Sokratis, Soyuncu and Leno.

    We can anyway buy a quality FW in Jan if need be.

    Not expecting anymore than 4th and Europa to be honest. We can realistically challenge Epl in the next season only anyway.

  67. Cesc Appeal

    Leno, Sokratis, Soyuncu, Torreria and Pavon and that is a great summer.

    That is without even thinking of the young players we’ve signed.

    Factor in new manager, new coaches etc.

    A lot to be excited about with Arsenal right now.

  68. Cesc Appeal

    Kay

    A nice home game to start for Emery would be great.

    I quite like the idea of adding Torreria and Pavon to the side, bit of South American industry to the side. Pavon got something like 11 assists in the league as well, got a fair few goals with that, not bad at all for a 21 year old.

  69. Receding hairline

    All this positivity this morning won’t sit well with Qna and Marko

    They want 50m pound players for each position.. It’s a spreadsheet game. Forget about tactics.

    Forget the fact we had our best home games points tally last season… Forget the fact we had this unexplainable run of really annoying away results against totally crap teams.. Teams we should have beat in our sleep. We finished 6th for the first time in two decades and suddenly that’s our level.

  70. McBright is Wright

    I repeat: This is a world cup year. Selling Clubs wait for their stars to perform to sell right. While, buying clubs refer to see a potential player shine at the biggest stage-coupe de monde.
    Remember, 85% of world class and top, top player are in Russia.
    Only MAn U and Losserpool have signed aside Arsenal in the top 7.
    No major signing at the la liga.
    Same with Italy, Germany, France.
    so lets wait and see.

  71. Leedsgunner

    “Leno, Sokratis, Soyuncu, Torreria and Pavon and that is a great summer.”

    If they get signed. The indications are good but they’re not through the door… yet.

    Plus, a great success would also need for us to move some of our surplus on… for good prices.

  72. Chika

    Gelson Martins has some exciting attributes but his game still needs some serious polishing.

    I really want us to sign a winger.

    I’m excited about the coming season!

  73. Victorious

    All this positivity this morning won’t sit well with Qna and Marko

    spot on,u.just knew even with Wenger out the block,these lot will still find reason to moan and be negative,even more disgusting is the fact they have their heads stuck in the dippers and who are no much better than us