Arsenal linked with more youthful names

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Horrible to read yet another high profile person has gone to such tragic lengths to escape their mental demons. Poor health of the mind is such a vicious predator and it doesn’t give a fuck who you are, how much you earn, or what your life looks like to the outside world.

That’s why Danny Rose is such a hero, I only just caught up on his big reveal in the press (big, because it’s football).

“It led to me seeing a psychologist and I was diagnosed with depression, which nobody knows about.”

“It’s no secret that I’ve been through a testing time at Tottenham this season,”

“It led to me seeing a psychologist and I was diagnosed with depression, which nobody knows about. I had to get away from Tottenham.

“I’m lucky that England gave me that opportunity to get away, refresh my mind and I’ll always be grateful to them. I was on medication for a few months – nobody knows about that apart from my agent – but I’m off the medication now, I’m good again and looking forward to how far we can go in Russia. ”

I’d love to crack a joke about Spurs being an obviously depressing experience, but I won’t, I’ll just say it so you know I was thinking it.

It’s heartening to see that people are starting to talk about important issues with more compassion. The more we normalise it, the more people will come out and deal with it through the proper channels. Macho industries like cooking and sport can make talking about things feel like a weakness. It’s not. I’m glad the conversation is moving in the right direction.

Don’t bottle it up, call someone up.

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Email jo@samaritans.org

In other news, I have Liverpool envy.

Why are their transfers so damn good?

Fabinho, Keita and Fekir… rumours are they’re after Allison from Roma in goal. What a fucking powerhouse side they’re building.

I mean, I know I’m out here defending our transfer policy, but there’s no doubt it’s fucking boring compared to theirs. But, you know, this is year three of the Klopp project. He had to get Liverpool back into the Champions League, he had to deal with the exit of Coutinho. Their fans had to deal with a lot of ups and downs. But ultimately, success is allowing them to go big… as well as moving on players at peak value.

There have been some sexy rumours floating around. Sampdoria’s Uruguayan defensive midfielder Lucas Torreira. I don’t know much about him, but having a south American enforcer at the base of our midfield is a delightful proposition, he’s fiery, can play with both feet and he seems to have a good number of gears pace-wise. He’d certainly excite me more than Fellaini.

We’re also being linked with Savic, the main issue being the £100m price tag… which is, you know, kind of a non-starter.

Let’s hope the club have some additional targets to add this summer, I think we have a pretty exciting group of players, a few more youthful names with a bit of experience would really raise our levels.

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Paulinho

From reading the little bits about the deal around Torrieira it seems we have zero chance of actually signing him so best not to get the hopes up on him.

Marko

Terrier only played 71 games in 4 years Is he injury prone..?

He’s 22 probably just joined the Italian league in the last couple years and probably only established himself last season.

Leftsidesanch

Agent is probably using us to firm up Napolis interest so it’s a game of wait and see.

He does strike me as one if he has a good world cup he’ll be unattainable so if we are into him we should be going all out now.

Leftsidesanch

Thats what I thought also Marko

Victorious

zero chance of signing him?.. how so?..for all we know it’s a two horse race with us and Napoli?..surely we can offer him more money? remember Wenger the penny pincher is no more.

Marko

So what his agents are asking for more time? But he’s in the Uruguay squad for the world cup so there isn’t really any time

Ishola70

All the latest on Torreira.

https://twitter.com/mrarsenictm?lang=en

That’s if you want a headache with the differing stories/reports.

Marko

Leftside he could win the world cup singlehandedly but as long as he doesn’t sign a new contract with Sampdoria his release clause stays at 22 million. All the stuff about instalments thing is with release clauses you have to pay it all up front its basically the player buying out his contract with money from another club in this case us

Paulinho

Victorious – Hope your right, but it just seems we are being used and the whole ‘arsenal have a agreed a deal but agents fees are a problem’ just seems the typical ITK bullshit.

I would be surprised if Napoli haven’t already signed him unofficially and it gets announced in the next week or so.

Bamford10

Yes please to Lukas Torreira.

Graham62

Are any of you watching the Rugby?

Ireland playing well.

Commitment from bothsides.

Brilliant .

Marko

Cillessen for 45 million!!! That’s a fucking riot lad is worse than Karius.

Seems to be a general excuse knocking about that our addressing the midfield comes down to whether or not Ramsey signs a new deal. Considering he barely plays there I don’t see why it should

Bamford10

I thought Gelson Martins was on a free? Now I see stories that Sporting have rejected an Arsenal bid of £26m. A little rough around the edges, but he does look an exciting player.

Bamford10

Daily Telegraph is saying that the Sokratis deal (£16m) is done but won’t be announced until July for some reason.

TonyD

Sancho Monzorla June 8, 2018 19:40:26 “PierreYou never told us you married your daughter.” No, not too much at all Sancho Pierre gets his jollies baiting people and using personal jibes all the time, in Thai they say “Sum Na Na” to people like him when they get they ass handed to them on a plate. If true, I’m sure Pierre’s wife wouldn’t like her issues being aired on a blog, and if not true, then she should divorce the good for nothing pice of shit. Either way it shows Pierre has no class to go with his numpty knowledge… Read more »

S Asoa

Now the Arsenal bashing is going on by the AKB even before Emery played his first game. Their incestuos Papa Wenger has been destroying Arsenal the last 12 years since the time Le Creep dismantled the Invincibles, who were so because of their defence.
Papazinho still on sabbatical until his Real Madrid job. So take a deep breadth.
Arsenal gave Wenger12 years to consistently fail. Let us at least give Emery an year to see the trend at least of revival.

Bamford10

While all of these rumors and links may mean nothing, we’re now being linked to Julian Draxler again.

Imagine that we have a totally different summer from what people were expecting and that we sign Leno, Sokratis, Klostermann, Torreira, Martins and Draxler.

Imagine that our starting XI for the first match next season is:

__________Leno
Bell___Sokr___Mavr___Klos
___Torreira____Ramsey
___________Ozil
Martins___Auba____Draxler

While some here are not going to like that midfield base, that wouldn’t be a bad side.

Cesc Appeal

Bamford

That line up gives Torreira far too much to do.

Ozil is spineless.

Ramsey has no discipline and wants to be a CAM, so unless Emery can coach discipline and maturity into him quickly that is a no go for me.

Better off getting another CDM/CM and playing CDM/CM, Torriera and Ramsey as a midfield and then just dropping Ozil.

useroz

Whoever we may sign I’d prefer it’s done asap to give unai ample time to gel the team. If we are talking 20/30m range, what’s to wait?.

We wouldn’t get this rebuild right the first time anyway so just do it!

Bamford10

Cesc

Yeah, I imagined some would say that. So you could do this instead:

__________Leno
Bell___Sokr___Mavr___Klos
___Torreira____Xhaka
_________Ramsey
Martins___Auba____Draxler

Which I’d basically be OK with.

I do think there’s a chance, though, that Ramsey could become a high-quality, responsible, all-action CM under Emery — esp. if there’s plenty of attacking talent in front of him. I also think Ozil could give us more effort and productivity if he were asked to play from central midfield a bit more. But I understand why people would be skeptical about both of these things.

englandsbest

graham62

I gather you mean: IN GAZIDIS WE TRUST

Graham62

englandsbest

Er…..no!

My focus is on Emery and what he can do, not on Gazidis.

Already know what Ivan is capable of.

Jim Lahey

@Bamford & CA – My preference for the first 11 next season. —————————- Leno (Bernd not Jay..)——————— Lichtsteiner ——– Sokratis —- Koscielny ——– Monreal ————————- Torreira ——- Xhaka ————————- ———————————- Ramsey ——————————- Mkhitaryan ———– Aubameyang —————- Pavón Went with Koscielny over any of the kids (although he is injured) as I think we really need an experienced stable back 4 .. although maybe having a player that is less likely to kick a ball into his own face would be more ideal. Xhaka & Torreira in the holding role, Torreira to do the dirty business and Xhaka to link the… Read more »

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Tr7

Aahhh must have been a mis print
Never trust news now lol

TonyD

You bite easy don’t you Northern Veg?

Very funny the way you show your lack of intelligence.

True to form you are very predictable.

TitsMcGee

Why are their transfers so damn good?“

Winning is always the best recruiter. They didn’t win the league but they played exciting football and got to the champions league final in the manager’s third season.

Trending upwards not flatlined/ plummeting like we were. That’s where the whole “be careful what you wish for “ mantra fell apart. Sustaining mediocrity out of fear of the unknown was always going to bite us in the arse .

Jim Lahey

Our bench for the first time in a long time would start to look like it has some depth to it!!

Čech
Bellerín
Kolašinac
Holding
Chambers
Mavropanos
Elneny
Özil
Maitland-Niles
Adli
Pérez
Nketiah

Marko

Would hate to think we’d just let midfield targets go because we were waiting on Ramsey to commit. He’s honestly not worth the effort.

Victorious

Troll D

“Funny seeing feeble minded Victoria come to his BFF’s aid. Probably good time for their monthly kumbya get together and talk about all us nasty WOBS and which tampons are best these days.”

Says the weight- lifter that only come on here to drop dumb post every now and then,really amazing that your only contribution on here is to come on and attack certain posters instead of making and intelligent input about the arsenal

thought Wenger’s departure stopped such juvenile tendencies,how wrong was I eh?now jog back under your cave u dumb mug.

Freddie Ljungberg

We still have to replace Santi and hopefully Jack so at least 1 CM has to be on the list. I’m hoping for 2 and Xhaka out the door.

Victorious

Would hate to think we’d just let midfield targets go because we were waiting on Ramsey to commit. He’s honestly not worth the effort.

Probably media BS.,the late bid for Fabinho,along with links to various CM points to the fact a CM is coming regardless of Ramsey’s future,think Wilshere is the fall guy in all of this

Jim Lahey

Wilshere’s ego set to take a massive hit once he goes looking for a new club..

Cesc Appeal

Wilshere will end up at Palace or West Ham I think, really is nowhere near as good as some Arsenal fans make out.

He is average at his very best now.

Jim Lahey

Wasn’t Jack the origin of the “second assist” stat?!

Victorious

‘Wilshere will end up at Palace or West Ham I think,’

not so sure about this,Juve strongly linked

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Cesc

Some of us still blinded by the super goal he scored against West Ham in youth game 10 years ago….

But agree that horse has run the corse.

Victorious

The old ladies picking up Can as well from dippers,Juv really like the freebies,dont they

tee

June 9, 2018 12:02:27 Now the Arsenal bashing is going on by the AKB even before Emery played his first game. Their incestuos Papa Wenger has been destroying Arsenal the last 12 years since the time Le Creep dismantled the Invincibles, who were so because of their defence. Papazinho still on sabbatical until his Real Madrid job. So take a deep breadth. Arsenal gave Wenger12 years to consistently fail. Let us at least give Emery an year to see the trend at least of revival. boy dumbo, can you come up with a quote to prove this? from what I… Read more »

Victorious

Can although nothing exceptional about him but he’s is an all-rounder,very physical and really good with the ball,thought we’d have gone in for him as well

Cesc Appeal

The classic, Torreria starts following Arsenal on social media 😉

Cesc Appeal

‘not so sure about this,Juve strongly linked’

Not a fucking chance

Paulinho

Wilshere has been finished physically for years but the level he displayed around Christmas was impressive.

The composure to pause the game and then play that ball over the top for Sanchez against Palace is showed he still has it, albeit nowhere near consistently enough. Xhaka could play non-stop for the next decade and still never dream to show that type of quality.

Cesc Appeal

RSPCA I thought he was going to be something after his 2010/11 season, still held out when he returned the first time from that long injury. Nothing I have seen since makes me think he is anything other than average, few bright moments, but people really overstate his effect. I actually think he has a negative impact on the team, there are stats to back that up, I remember the 4-1-MESS-1 season when there was some ridiculous stat about always being in a losing position when he was on the field, then he gets subbed and we go on to… Read more »

Marko

Not even remotely a Xhaka fan think he’s been an awful signing but he’s better than Jack. The only thing Jack has going for him is the ability to drop the shoulder and go past someone a couple yards near him. No physical presence not that good of a passer can only really pass a certain way with his foot. Suffers from a case of not knowing exactly where his best position is. He’s not good enough probably never has been

Paulinho

Marko – Behave.

In terms of talent they are not in the same stratosphere.

Jim Lahey

@Marko –

Lets not forget Jacks other great talent.. throwing himself on the ground every time he lost the ball.

Paulinho

“The only thing Jack has going for him is the ability to drop the shoulder and go past someone a couple yards near him”

Oh is that all.

As for passing, he’s miles better. Just watch him for England a few years back in the deeper-lying role, against Xhaka’s Switzerland no less.

Marko

Talent? What talent is that? Jack has been borrowing a career on the back of one half decent performance he had against Barcelona how many years ago? What’s the point in talent if he’s barely shown it in years.

Victorious

I like Jack’s passion though,wish it could rob off other players in the squad,being a youth product has made him a fighter who also loves the club,shows in his play

Marko

As for passing, he’s miles better. Just watch him for England a few years back in the deeper-lying role,

Yeah I’ll rewatch stuff from years back to show Jack has talent. Do you hear yourself. A handful of games over what 7/8 years does not a talent make. This year he played 38 games injury was no excuse but he was still bang average

Paulinho

Marko – He was brilliant up until April that season so that’s about eight months,
He was also brilliant for Bolton the year before.

Also, he was even better at the Nou Camp than he was at the Emirates so the whole one game thing is bollocks even in that small sample period that people constantly refer to.

Jim Lahey

We talking about the same Jack Wilshere that was dropped from Bournemouth’s first 11?

TR7

Xhaka better than Jack? Jack is class whereas Xhaka is trash.

Marko

Paulinho I’ve always thought people took way too much away from that game/tie read way too much into a bit of praise from Xavi. Should have listened to Pep instead who said something along the lines as he was okay that they had plenty like Jack in the academy. He meant better really

Cesc Appeal

The hype around Wilshere is almost as baffling as those that backed Wenger still, very average player with limited uses and unbalances the midfield.

Paulinho

Marko – You do realise realise Wilshere has never been properly fit since 2011.

He’s been done for years. Back on 2013 he was rolling around holding his ankles and moaning.

He never did any of that in his first couple of seasons, so it’s an irritating trait that came as reaction to injury problems.

Marko

Jack Wilshere is not class. Not even remotely. Must be some tribalism attached to how people view him. He’s actually shite should have been sold years ago

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Paulinho

Marko – Well Guardiola was talking nonsense then wasn’t he, because Barca have produced jack shit in that position since he made those comments.

Marko

Marko – You do realise realise Wilshere has never been properly fit since 2011.

Let’s dispel this myth once and for all yes he’s struggled with injuries for years but he was fit last season and was shite and he was pretty much fit for his loan at Bournemouth and was shit. For a while there he couldn’t get into the starting 11 over Harry Arter or Dan Gosling

TR7

Although Jack for me is a quintessential box to box player but given his injury woes I would like to see him played in CAM position. Can still beat players with his dribbling, has a good eye for a pass and can link up. Only downside is he doesn’t make a lot of runs, still can play the role better than most in our team.

Paulinho

With the exception of Thiago but he was hyped.

KAY Boss

cillesen!!! hell no! he was the reason why ajax did win the league trophy this season he left for barca. some praise kante but don’t want torreira. it seems it’s pure hate towards the club. and on the part of sampdoria reportedly wanting to increase the price, it pure ‘opportunism’. can someone just tell Ramsey and wilshere to get out of the club!

Marko

Marko – Well Guardiola was talking nonsense then wasn’t he, because Barca have produced jack shit in that position since he made those comments.

That doesn’t prove anything other than Jack wouldn’t make it at Barcelona. Actually wrong though Sergi Roberto and Rafinha alone would absolutely wipe the floor with Jack. Dennis Suarez. I could go on

Paulinho

Marko – Your ignorance is truly astounding.

Paul Gascoigne was’fit’ many times after he did is knee in 93, yet everyone knows he was never the same player. Not saying Wilshere was Gascoigne level but it’s clear after 2011 Wilshere turned to glass in terms of general resistance to impact.

Marko

Aubergine the ability to drop the shoulder isn’t a key component to being a good midfielder there’s other things and Jack lacks them completely

KAY Boss

cillesen?!!! no please. he makes karios a worldie. can some also tell Ramsey and wilshere get out of the club!

Paulinho

Ha Denis Suarez and Rafinha. Exotic names but completely average.

KAY Boss

on my first post I meant to say didn’t win

Elmo

If the alternative is buying in some cheap squad filler, I’d keep Wilshere if it costs £100k pw for 3 years. I think we’d all agree for a £15m transfer fee you’re not going to get much, and that’s the same amount as Wilshere would cost at £100k pw over 3 years, and that doesn’t include the wages of the new player. We’re realistically going to need a 1st and 2nd XI for the next couple of years as we play in the Europa; he is good enough to be the focal point of the 2nd XI, and make the… Read more »

TR7

Marko

‘That doesn’t prove anything other than Jack wouldn’t make it at Barcelona. Actually wrong though Sergi Roberto and Rafinha alone would absolutely wipe the floor with Jack. Dennis Suarez. I could go on’

I mean it’s OK not rating Jack but come on Roberto and Dennis Suarez?

Rambo Ramsey

Nobody cares how much talent Wilshere had once upon a time.

What matters- He was/is/will be a complete failure.

Ramsey had a far more horrendous injury but he’s comeback to a decent standard.

Bamford10

Jack was a genuine talent, and this was clear from more than just one performance. He had a great first touch, was excellent in close spaces, had great vision and could beat players from the dribble. He could’ve been a great player. Truly. Unfortunately, injuries ruined him physically and he’ll never be the player he could have been. He should go to Italy, and I’ve read there’s some interest in him there.

Marko

Jack played 38 times last season and yet Loftus Cheek got an England call up for the world cup even Jake Livermore is on the standby list and not Jack. It was a gutsy but correct call because form is important not some bullshit misguided opinion that Jack is England’s best midfielder. He’s not even remotely that

Paulinho

Before his ankle injury Ramsey could dribble with his left foot at times. That’s the only thing that seems to have gone from his game since then. He lost a bit of that ingenuity in terms of quick feet that he had. Still there in bursts but he tenses up a lot these days when before the injury he would be a bit more relaxed on the ball.

Doublethink

Are we certain that Emery is going to go with a 4-2-3-1?
4-3-3 could work, something like this maybe? Cech/New GK
Bellerin Sokratis Mustafi/New defender Kolasinac/Monreal
N’Zonzi/Xhaka
Torreira/Ramsey
Ramsey/Ozil
Mkhi/Ozil Auba New signing/Iwobi

TR7

Is Jake Livermore even a footballer ?

Marko

Ha Denis Suarez and Rafinha. Exotic names but completely average.

Have contributed more on a football pitch than Jack Wilshere has for years. We’ll see how rated Jack is soon enough. He’s been pretty much fit for two seasons now so no excuse there it’ll be interesting to see if a big club comes in for him or if Villa try to sign him or Palace.

Marko

I mean it’s OK not rating Jack but come on Roberto and Dennis Suarez?

Are you actually for real? Roberto absolutely shits over Jack Wilshere it’s not even close. Not even remotely close

Paulinho

England’s midfield is a horror show. Which we will see in the World Cup when no one wants the ball. Literally every player in their midfield is completely incapable of taking the ball against a press.

Zfree

Paulinho

We dropped a ton of points in those games around Christmas when you said jack was playing well…

Bamford10

Marko

Right, but there’s a difference between what Wilshere is today (about which you are correct) and what he was at 19, 20 & 21 (about which you are totally incorrect).

And again, this has nothing to do with judging him on a single performance, as is sometimes suggested. Jack was a genuine talent; see Xavi’s comments on him if you don’t trust the opinion of some of us here.

Doublethink

Well it looked like a 4-3-3 before I pressed post comment.

Bamford10

Zfree

You’re probably right about that, and that would’ve been the case because: (1) even if Jack looked decent with the ball at his feet, his physical limitations mad him useless (or worse) to us defensively; and (2) we had plenty of other weaknesses.

TR7

Roberto is average, nothing is gonna convince me otherwise.

Bamford10

Doublethink

Is the main difference b/t your 4-2-3-1 and your 4-3-3 that you have one holding mid rather than two?

Paulinho

Zfree – Arsenal under Wenger dropped points around Christmas? Never.

Cesc Appeal

Arsenal are apparently looking at Gbamin of Mainz as well

Cesc Appeal

Gbamin at about £20-25 Million could be a good Mislintat find at CDM, bring in Torreria as well and we’ve got new options.

Marko

And again, this has nothing to do with judging him on a single performance, as is sometimes suggested. Jack was a genuine talent; see Xavi’s comments on him if you don’t trust the opinion of some of us here.

Xavi judged him on a single performance

TR7

Cesc

Don’t bother, we are getting linked to almost every midfielder playing in Bundesliga.

englandsbest

graham62

Like it or not. Emery is only a part of Ivan’s Grand Plan.

No question Emery is a fine manager. Nor is there any doubt that Raul and Sven are up to the mark.

So what can possibly go wrong?

Errr…money?

Which brings us back to Stan the Man.

Marko

Roberto is average, nothing is gonna convince me otherwise.

Sure Sergi Roberto is average he’s been playing very well the last two years and is so versatile and solid that they gave him a new contract recently at Barcelona. While Jack Wilshere the last two years didn’t impress Bournemouth enough that they’d want him (spent 20 million on Ake so money wasn’t the issue) and this past season impressed so much that we allowed his contract to run down and oh he didn’t get a call up by England

Rambo Ramsey

I have to say I’m extremely disappointed the way Arsenal have behaved thus far in the Window.

We haven’t moved out shit players. Where is the ruthlessness?

We haven’t sorted out player contracts. Has Ramsey been given a deadline or will the saga drag-on endlessly ala Sanchez last year?

We haven’t made any worthwhile signings. Where is our statement signing to go with the new Manager? Its shocking how dull its been after the new gaffer was appointed. Does this happen at any other big club?

Can someone please tell me how its been any different from Wenger era?

Zfree

I wasn’t suggesting Jack was the only reason for the dropped points, that’d be foolish. There are 10 other players on the pitch and the Wenger elephant in the room. But to me he looked pretty basic during that time period. You’re applauding him for not getting injured and clocking minutes in a tight time window. But the on-field product was very average. He didn’t lift us up in any significant way, certainly didn’t win us any points…

Doublethink

Yeah pretty much Bamford.
In regards to Wilshere is there no one else hoping that after his first season in years without a serious injury and a proper preseason he could maybe regain some of his athleticism? It’s unlikely but I can still hope.

Marko

Rambo I agree. Certain types will have an excuse as to why but it’s not stopping Liverpool. It’s a question of decisiveness really. But sure Torreira followed us on instagram so he’s practically done

Zfree

RR

I agree, it’s been a bit dull, but I still don’t think it’s Wengeresque. We’ve ostensibly already got in Licht, Sokratis, and Adli, and it appears we’ll be bringing in at least 2 additional players. That’s more than the “2-3 additions” a la Wenger, not to mention his dithering.

I think there’s a plan given the shit-sandwich squad the new team is challenged with, and the lack of resources available due to years of Wenger’s incompetence and Stan’s penny-pinching.

Paulinho

Zfree – I thought the level of our football instantly went up, and we played the ball through midfield a lot better. Anyway, that wasn’t really the point I was making. I agree he’s far from indispensable. The point I was making was that a few are saying Wilshere is Palace or West Ham level, which may be true at this point, but none of those clubs would take Xhaka if offered. Wilshere is still a better footballer than he is, so don’t be surprised to see our midfield get the run around if we play against a West Ham… Read more »

Zfree

Paulinho

Fair enough I guess regarding Xhaka. I think he’s trash and was disgusted that he was shoe-horned into the starting XI all last year, regardless of form or prior performance. Hopefully that sort of thing won’t persist with Emery here.