Arsenal lose the plot with new kits + Revealing interview about Emery

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Wooooooah, what to make of the latest Arsenal kits?

You know I globally renowned for having exquisite taste in sporting apparel, but I can’t help but think this batch of kits really were a ‘fuck you very much’ parting gift by the designers over at Puma.

We’ve gone for a home kit that for me is quite a weak red. It feels washed out, like a blood-red Topman t-shirt from back in the day that you’ve gone into the sea with then left out to dry on your €25 a night hotel balcony. I really don’t like the washed out red on the sleeves, it’s meek, there’s no strength there. I also don’t immedietley understand the thinking behind the pattern running through the shirt. Is it a hat tip to the lightning strike of the 1995 shirt? Like… what is it?

The teal away kit is kind of fun. But it’s basically a Barca away kit. It doesn’t feel very Arsenal at all.

Then there’s the other kit, that looks like it was inspired by the physio’s clobber. It’s boring, it’s really dark and I’m just not interested in it.

There is no cultural relevance to any of the shirts, and there’s nothing groundbreaking that’ll live on forever.

I mean, let’s be real here folks, if you’re over the age of 15 and you’re buying a replica shirt, someone needs to have a serious word with you. It’s not an adult thing to do. It doesn’t suit your body. The material brings the sweat to the surface, so it’s not a pleasant experience on a sweaty train.

Seriously, if you’re bitching about this kit because you wanted to buy one, grow the fuck up. They’re for the small people.

Back to design…

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Look at those cool as fuck kids just hanging around on olive oil barrels just shooting the shit about something low-key like the ‘is a Calippo a type of sorbet?’… in my mind, it is. It’s poor man’s sorbet, but sorbet it is.

Back to the shirt. Nike have ripped off our bruised banana kit, and the whole world is losing their fucking shit over it. You’ve even got Brexit Dave from Kettering wearing one. What a unifying moment of kit design glory.

How long have we been begging for that shirt to return? Football kits these days are an event. The big brands are desperate to make them acceptable fashion attire. To be honest, you can roll into work in a ‘soccer’ shirt here and no one bats an eyelid, do that in the UK and you’ll get the same look as you would wearing an ‘I’m with stoopid’ tee.

Anyway, if you want to make football shirts acceptable in mainstream fashion culture to sell me more, we really need to be doing a better job of design. Revisit the past and steal is my view. Or do something so future, people can’t ignore it.

There’s another great interview in GFFN from the author of a new Unai Emery book coming out (Here).

We’ll get a couple of the worries out the way. In defending the poor rep Emery had with the French press, the author had this to say:

‘He’s really interesting. I’d pay more attention to interviews, rather than press conferences. He speaks really openly. But if you really want to understand what he’s trying to transmit, you have to interview him in Spanish a few times a year, to really understand who he is.’

Language keeps on cropping up.

Here’s something I touched on in yesterday’s post regarding how he’ll implement his ideas, and the perils of getting it wrong.

Unai Emery arrived to Paris after his failure in Spartak Moscow, where he tried to impose his ideas very suddenly, which failed in part due to cultural differences.

When you first arrive to a club, you need to adapt to the club’s philosophy, the place where you live, and the player culture. It’s a different place, a very international club marked by Arsène Wenger.

You have some managers who ignore what was in place before and instil their own ideas. Then you have guys who are more focused on the continuity and who aren’t as brutal. Unai Emery is more in that logic. He used to have a very fiery attitude, and could sometimes go all out.

For example, there was a game he was losing 2-1 with Almeria with one man down, where he decided to put on a striker for a defensive midfielder. He told his team that they were here to win, but in the end they lost 3-1. Today he wouldn’t necessarily do the same thing. He’ll try to understand where he’s arriving. In regards to the culture of the club, how they work etc.

He’ll insist on videos — both team and individual footage. But he also knows that if the players don’t subscribe to what he’s saying or doing, he won’t persist with it. Similarly to how Benjamin Mendy used to not watch Marcelo Bielsa’s video sessions. Mendy used to fall asleep watching them, to which Bielsa told him, “There’s no need to watch them. The day you’ll be interested, you’ll watch them.” Eventually, that’s what happened. If he forced him to watch it, he would have never developed any interest for it and wouldn’t be invested in it.

So we can expect Emery to be in a form of continuity. He’ll definitely work on high pressing because he loves that. He’ll focus on using the whole length of the pitch, with particular focus on the full-backs. I’d say his trademark is the involvement of full-backs when attacking. His other trademark is set pieces, which he didn’t really succeed with at PSG. But at Sevilla he worked on that extensively. At PSG, he wasn’t able to do the same. Maybe because the players didn’t follow what he had to say on it or didn’t find it useful. But if he has players who love to study the game, along with a few strong characters in the dressing room to help with his message, things will work really well from set pieces.

Emery has such a tough job ahead of him, he has to deal with the legacy of Wenger, which was very much a ‘do as you please’ culture… but he also has to make us competitive. The manager is under a time constraint, he needs to impress the board, the crowd and the players. He can take things slowly to avoid hurt feelings, but if things start poorly, he’ll be in trouble.

I think part of why we’re seeing the club hire in older talent that has familiarity with the board is that the club know they need to bring in players they own. They need to reset the culture with authoritative figures in the dressing room that know what it takes to play at the new highest level. If the club make Ramsey captain, you have him sorted. If they bring in a new centre-back like Sokratis, you gain a leader, but you also start bringing in the attitude of Dortmund which Sven controls. Lichtensteiner might not have it in him to play 50 games next season, but if anyone thinks a 5 time Serie A champions won’t come with a presence, they’re gravely mistaken.

Emery needs to implement his ideas quickly and he needs to build the culture out in his vision. It’s a tough balancing act for sure, but if the club bring in enough new faces to stamp out the familiar feel of comfort that Wenger imprinted on the squad, they should be well on the way to a new Arsenal.

Finally, EDDDDDDIIIIIE Nketiah made an assist and scored a cracker for Scotland.

Arsenal: U18s: 16 games – 15 goals U21s: 27 games – 18 goals First team: 127 minutes – 2 goals

England: U18s: 2 games – 4 goals U19s: 12 games – 11 goals U21s: 3 games – 2 goals

His record reads like PEAK Franny Jeffers. I’m so excited to see where his career goes under a proper coach, because you know under Wenger he’d be benched for the next two years making 6minutes of open play, then he’d go on loan to WBA, then he’d retire to make adult movies with his page 3 girlfriend.

We have HIGH hopes for Eddie, he looks like he’s built for the top of the game.

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Zombie

Gambon

Thats what you get with a world class manager. It’s why I wanted Someone or Allegri not a guy who failed with unlimited money and the best squads in PSG

Marko

No question the Liverpool signings scream ambition. And meanwhile over at Arsenal we’re having arguments about a 34 year old RB being a smart signing and talking about renewing Aaron Ramsey like its a good thing

Jim Lahey

“Emery should have been after both Fekir and Fabinho. No idea why he hasn’t.” I think its pretty simple why we aren’t in for these players. Arsenal are no longer a big club and to be honest we haven’t been a big club for the past decade. If you were to divide the league into a series of tiers I would think it would look something like this. Tier One: 1. Man City 2. Man United 3. Liverpool Tier Two: 1. Chelsea 2. Spurs 3. Arsenal Tier Three: 1. Everton 2. Leicester City 3. West Ham If we are being… Read more »

gambon

Really don’t think you’ll see Emery signing Rabiot

In fact it’s 100% not happening.

Zombie

Gambon

Liverpool are after Oblak or Allison as well. Fuck me if they sign one of them they will win the league.

gambon

What a load of bollocks.

Arsenal & Chelsea are definitely a tier above Liverpool.

The reason we aren’t signing those quality players is because the club is incompetent.

qna

“We needed to out perform everyone in the transfer market this summer and I don’t think we’re even trying.” We are not competing for the same things as Liverpool. Different ambitions. Spurs and Chelsea may be vulnerable. I really don’t rate Mourinho as a manager anymore. But they have much, much better quality than us. We have the 6th best squad in the EPL. We won’t improve on that in this window. So to achieve top 4 would be a great achievement. These 29 year old signings are just a complete waste of time. As someone said the other day,… Read more »

Zombie

Marko

Paying Ramsey 200k is madness he isn’t worth 100k imo. Sell him now and you can get 50m from some stupid team like Everton

Graham62

Zombie

Have you just risen from the dead or something?

Arsenal have to play catch up, whether you like or not and your perceptions on England are, I feel, way off the mark.

Zombie

Please compare the 2010 squad with this one. This squad is fucking shit.

Zombie

Graham62

Ofcourse I know that but Emery isn’t helping matters buy signing shit players and giving Ramsey huge wages.

Graham62

Zombie

“Having serious doubts about Emery”.

What were your feelings for Wenger after 22 years?

Give it a break and open your eyes.

qna

“Arsenal & Chelsea are definitely a tier above Liverpool.”

You really don’t get what had happened over the past few years have you.

Liverpool have been a shambles for a long time. But they have always been the 2nd biggest club in England. If they can win a 3 or 4 titles in the next decade, they will be back. I am talking United level commercials. This is not a new money team. This was the most prestigious club in England before Fergie came along.

Dissenter

qna, What did they expect would happen after all these years of neglect. Liverpool are a much bigger club than Arsenal, once again. We’ve been a badly run club for a long time and now we are seeing the consequences. We haven;t stopped making one headed decisions though. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, signing 30 year old defenders with one year left on their contracts for 18 million …will put us in a position where we still can’t compete for the best players in 3-4 years. Liverpool are in this position, partly because the have been… Read more »

Graham62

2010 England squad were utter dross.

A total embarrassment.

Zombie

Conte turned down Real after Porch anx

Paulinho

Gambon – Just if we are keeping slow shite like Xhaka then we may as well keep Danny Boy. If we bring in signings of the level Liverpool are then by all means sell him on but we need him if we are keeping the bulk of our current squad because we have too many slow players that can’t pick up loose balls. Welbeck just behind Laca and Aubameyang and just in front of cripples like Xhaka is actually needed to cover for their deficiencies. Brings graft, team-orientated, pace and can be a threat in behind, even if it is… Read more »

Marko

I mean we are a better club than Liverpool we just aren’t acting like it

Zombie

Conte has turned down Real after Porch and Allegri. Who can they even get now?

HillWood

Zombie
Go fuck your self you miserable cunt
Football’s coming home

Zombie

Marko

Agree we are letting fucking shits like Ramsey are holding us hostage. Sell him and replace him with a better player and show we are a big club.

Zombie

HillWood

Don’t say I didn’t warn you when England lose to Panama or Tunisia

Gooner63

I mean we are a better club than Liverpool we just aren’t acting like it

lol thats like saying welbeck is a better striker than ronaldo, he just isnt acting like it

we are small fry now, nothing to offer, no goals other than top 4

its not attractive to the majority of players

your living in the past of you think we are bigger than Pool right now

we are definitely 2nd tier

Zombie

Kike Marin (was one of first in calling Emery) – Leno is Arsenal’s primary goalkeeping target, and Emery rates him highly

Lol this guy is another Karius. We are going to finish lower than 6th.

Dissenter

Paulinho’s volte-face about Welbeck is so abrupt he must have whip-lash.

Wellbeck scores a goal in a meaningless friendly in the eve of the WC so let’s keep him since we are keeping Xhaka.

He has only one year left on his contract

Zombie

We were never a bigger club than Liverpool. They won a CL at the invincible time. 5 CLs as well.

Dissenter

Zombie
Leno is no Karius
He made the German initial squad of 27 players and got dropped for Neuer, Ter Stegen and Kevin Trapp.

Gooner63

Emery likes to play a 4-2-3-1 formation that presses, so buying sokratis, looking at soyuncu and at DMs, is exactly what he should be doing

then i think it will be down to whether he can get a top goalscoring winger – ie dembele

then i reckon he wont do a lot till jan.next summer, once he sees who can adapt to this new system

not much will happen this year, its more a case of changing from wengerism to an actual footballing team with formations and tactics

Zombie

Dissenter

Leno is no better than Cech and Ospina

Marko

Paulinho’s volte-face about Welbeck is so abrupt he must have whip-lash.

Saw it and I loved it. When he turns on Ramsey I’ll be there with a hug and a reassuring smile

qna

“We haven;t stopped making one headed decisions though. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, signing 30 year old defenders with one year left on their contracts for 18 million …will put us in a position where we still can’t compete for the best players in 3-4 years.” I agree completely. That’s why I am calling for us to accept the position we are in and take a rebuilding approach for the next few years. I understand the commercial reasons for trying to achieve top 4. But I don’t think our approach is going to yeild that result.… Read more »

Marko

I actually rate Leno he was neck and neck with Ter Stegen for a while there. Probably needed a move like Ter got

Paulinho

Dissenter -Eh? I’ve always been a fan of him. Just ask Gambon.

You do come out with weird daft things at times.

Paulinho

Marko – Unlikely to do that with Ramsey when most who were against him are the ones that have done a u-turn. Albeit a really slow drawn out one so not be seen to be contradicting themselves from previous scathing criticisms of him 😉

Zombie

QNA

Yep missed a chance to win two league titles in 13/14 and 15/16 thanks to the clown Wenger.

Fucking bastard wouldn’t pay the extra 10m and get Suarez.

Man I still can’t believe Luis Suarez wanted to join us and went on strike. How far have we fallen

Marko

Not me Paulinho I think all our midfielders are shite equally…no waffle

gambon

Paulinho

I agree with selling Xhaka.

The only position he can play is DM and he is a shit DM.

I would be signing a GK, 2xCBs, 2 x CMs and a wide player.

But Welbeck is just pure shit. Literally most of his touches are mis kicks.

We could get £20m from palace, west ham or Leicester and reinvest into the team.

Zombie

What do you guys think of selling Mkhi and getting a proper winger. We don’t need a another no 10?

qna

Zombie. Yep. Suarez. We needed a DM for a decade. Aubamayang was too little too late. We needed that caliber of striker to add to the team when we still had RVP. We were only a small few top quality players away, once upon a time. It got worse and worse. Arteta wasn’t a good enough replacement for Cesc. Podolski wasn’t good enough. Giroud was a good buy, but not as a starting striker. We needed a top striker in front of him. We bought Gervinho when we should have been willing to pay double and get Hazard. The list… Read more »

Zombie

Say what you will about Wenger but we lost his ability to attract top players. Emery doesn’t have the ability to attract top players.

HillWood

Zombie
Who were you in a previous existence on here ?

Zombie

Shame that Wenger couldn’t win the Eurapa and get us that CL money. Fucker has absolutely ruined us.

DaleDaGooner

Marko, don’t be an idiot, your attitude stinks like an unwashed twat.

There

Thanos

So pool almost have fekir over the line. That’s a formidable front 4

Zombie

HillWood

Don’t remember the name but I remember last posting in 2014 arguing with some fools who said Ox and Vela was better than Griezmann when I was advocating for signing him.

Zombie

Thanos

Don’t forget midfield of Keita and Fabinho and trying to sign Oblak or Allison as well.

Thanos

Yeah not forgetting that hopefully keita and fabinho don’t settle in the premier league I really hate the bin dippers

qna

“Say what you will about Wenger but we lost his ability to attract top players.” This is vastly overstated. Ozil was pushed out of Madrid and accepted his fate at the last minute. A lot of good fortune in that one. Similar story with Sanchez after Suarez came to Barca. It is true that we beat Liverpool for his signature, but you can bet your life if he had to make that decision today he would also choose Liverpool, Wenger or not. Aubamayang and Lacazette were players that no other clubs were willing to pay the price for. We got… Read more »

McBright is Wright

Can anyone tell me why we we now only shop in Germany? of all the many leagues, why B’Liga?
Please, kindly tell mr Militant to tank his armour and launch his arsenal at la liga, jupilar liga, league1…

Thanos

Don’t think we only ship on Germany let’s see who we buy first

Zombie

McBright is Wright

It sees Emery does not know much outside of established players and the scout doesn’t know other than Germany like how Wenger didn’t know other than France.

QNA

Griezmann just recently said in an interview how he almost joined us before Atletico but we pulled out. Suarez went on strike to join us. Mahrez has been begging to join us.

qna

“Griezmann just recently said in an interview how he almost joined us before Atletico but we pulled out. Suarez went on strike to join us. Mahrez has been begging to join us.”

Griezemann and Suarez were a long time ago. I don’t doubt that we could land Mahrez even now. But if he gets to choose between us and Liverpool, he won’t choose us. We may still be more fashionable than Spurs. I suspect that we are.

Receding hairline

Yea it’s all down to klopps ability to attract players.. They paid zero transfer fees for those players, they all came in the great hope klopp gives them a hug.
Emery failed at PSG I hear.. Well Pep failed at Bayern then.. Since a winning 7 of an available 10 trophy’s in two years is failure.

I wonder what Poch and klopp..six finals lost straight no breather.. Breath taking success

Receding hairline

When klopp fails to win the league this season are we also allowed to say he failed?

What about Mourinho? Does he fail without a league trophy?

Or is the bashing by the Zombie fellow aided by the ever silly Qna reserved for Emery alone?

Zombie

QNA

Wenger got job offers from England and PSG before his new contract. He is being considered for ths Madrid jon Hell he may even get it as everyone else has rejected it. As much I hate the guy he had a great reputation in the game as a legendary manager.

McBright is Wright

Must we use insultive words just to prove our points?
in a world cup year you wouldnt want to rush your signing just before coup de monde. the world cup is the biggest super market. so why buy dross, when you can wait for overdose

Samesong

We have gone from Mercedes C63 to a Nissan Qashqai.

Zombie

Receding

Lol are you seriously comparing Emery with best managers in football today like Pep and Klopp.

Emery was found out in PSG like Moyes. He signed shit like Jese and Krychowiak and lost the league to Monaco. And got scored 6 goals against him in CL.

He is not even as good as Poch, Mourinho or Conte.

Zombie

Receding

The only reason he even got the Arsenal job was he was the only one other than Arteta who would join. If we really wanted to compete we would have got Allegri, Simeone or Zidane

McBright is Wright

Correct me if am wrong…Before Emery was merrily linked to Arsenal, the media has been ripe with the rumour of Lintch and Papa’apollos? If that is the case then, who bought those: SVEN MILITANT OR UNAI EMERY?

Sancho Monzorla

McBright is Wright

That’s ridiculous, the World Cup has only ever driven up the price of a player. If anything you need to do business much earlier in a World Cup year.

Liverpool doing outstanding business, I’d be thrilled with one new player this summer of the Keita/Fabinho/Fekir quality.

Jim Lahey

“Emery was found out in PSG like Moyes. He signed shit like Jese and Krychowiak and lost the league to Monaco. And got scored 6 goals against him in CL.”

You say that like Monaco are Leicester… a team which beat out both Pochettino and Mourinho to the league in 2015.

Actually.. Pochettino and Emery are the same age.. and one of them has won nothing, which one?

Victorious

zombie/j.oey

welcome back,wonder how long you’ll make it here again before going back to the bin,best of luck

Victorious

Would be supremely pissed if we end up with Gelson Martins while dippers got Fekir…he would have been a brilliant player for us,complete baller with an unbelievable eye for goal.would sting badly.

McBright is Wright

Sancho M
Trust me, you’ll be amazed at the quality of players at the world cup with cheaper BOC, yet better quality.
Emery is still in class studying the elements at Arsenal. While Kloop, Poch and Jose are almost graduating students.
Emery will come good!

Receding hairline

Lol.. Top managers like klopp…hahahaha.. The same klopp that has his ass handed to him in a final by Emery Or is it Pochettino who is Emery’s age but has won nada Pep I get.. But then he isn’t a coach.. He is a tactician that assembles an expensive squad and still gets beat home and away in the champions league quarters.. Not to mention the ass whooping his Bayern teams took in the same competition. Emery is our manager now… I notice everyone brings up the loss to Barça while ignoring he also whopped them 4-0 in the first… Read more »

McBright is Wright

…And why are we all worried about the price of players? If we cant now compete, we know who blame and then we do the needful. period! Better fill up your gas Ivan, its gonna be a short ride to get you and that Randyfellow from Barca out…And no! you’re not excused mr Militant

Emiratesstroller

It has been clear for a very long time that Arsenal’s management structure was not fit for purpose specifically when it came to football matters. Wenger stayed too long in the job and that applied also to the coaching staff as well. Also there was a growing proliferation of jobs as I pointed out before Wenger left. The first team squad was being supported by over 20 staff and you had to ask the question what exactly most of these people were doing? I still ask the question why Steve Bould has not left the club, because I think most… Read more »

kc

The best players almost always seek out the best clubs. Liverpool was in the CL final this year, while Arsenal finished 6th in the EPL. Why people are surprised Liverpool are attracting the big names is beyond me. We’re not the same club we were 15 years ago. Wenger’s reluctance to move on hurt the brand more than some realize. Emery has a full rebuild on his hands, and it’ll take more than one transfer window to fix it.

Berg

With the £50 million supposbablty available it clearly shows we are competing with the big boys!!! Even the promoted clubs have bigger budgets. We are and will always be one of yanks average franchise

KAY Boss

why are some people worried about what our rivals are doing. I disagree giving Ramsey a bumper r deal which IMO , he doesn’t deserve. I hope we get players that can make us great and attractive preposition again. Just hoping!

Dissenter

“why are some people worried about what our rivals are doing.”

….because we have to complete with them
That’s not exactly rocket science.

Champagne charlie

Just so I’m up to speed…

When Liverpool stockpile attacking talent it’s a good thing, but when we have two quality strikers it’s stupid and a waste of talent?

Our lot are a humorous bunch 🙂

Can everyone professing their affection for Liverpool and Klopp confirm that if they win nothing next season he’s a failure? How long does anyone that’s not Wenger get?

Dissenter

CC
“When Liverpool stockpile attacking talent it’s a good thing, but when we have two quality strikers it’s stupid and a waste of talent?”

Great Question
Because they are spending there proceeds of selling Coutinho for a record sum as well as a very successful run in the CL. They have money to spend. They don’t pay perennial sick-notes 350k weekly [ [:-) had to throw that in]
We definitely are operating from a very restricted budget [based on what we see so far] and we have a lop-sided and imbalanced squad. WE HAVE TO WORK WITH LESS.

Champagne charlie

Dissenter

Their defensive unit is bang average at a push. If you don’t consider Liverpool lopsided then you’re being wilfully ignorant.

Klopp has been the beneficiary of two Rogers signings that have given Liverpool 200+ mil to play with. Whilst plenty of admiration is due, I’ll draw the line thanks because he’s won fuck all there and still not addressed their glaring issues.

Great on Fifa, but defensively still dogshit.

Champagne charlie

Dissenter Btw Re: Ozil… Just how would you have handled the fact he could walk away for free in 6 months? You’re getting your panties in a bunch over 350k a week when in reality it’d have cost 50 mil plus 200k wages to replace the guy. The sicknote thing that’s the new stick to beat him with is pathetic btw, he’s still being treated for injuries on national duty. Think it goes beyond him not fancying it. I’d like to point out how many games he actually does play per season, pretty certain it makes some of our heroes… Read more »

gonsterous

dissenter

Kolasinac and Xhaka were very good in the Bundesliga, see how long it’s taking them to make the adjustment.

what does this prove ?? how many players have come to the PL from the bundesliga and succeeded. Leroy Sane off the top of my head. Or if you would have it, we should only be shopping in the EPL for the likes of Evans and butland,and shawcross…

TonyD

Welbeck 2 goals in 2 games his stock has to be increasing along with his price.

As so many of us want a goal scoring winger, on yesterday’s performance Rashford would be a good choice to replace Welbeck.

Still a rough diamond but I’ve always thought Rashford has the potential to warrant a place in out first 11 with the right coaching.

TonyD

“You’re getting your panties in a bunch over 350k a week when in reality it’d have cost 50 mil plus 200k wages to replace the guy.” CC along with Northern Veg and Victoria are guys who are perfectly happy having an argument in and empty room. “I’d like to point out how many games he actually does play per season, pretty certain it makes some of our heroes look a touch frail by comparison…” Very glib Charlie. He only likes playing against minnows and is either on holiday pretending to be injured or invisible on the pitch against top 6… Read more »

Gavqatar

Love your comments on adults wearing football shirts Pedro…..but I have to admit, if Adidas are our next shirt partner, and they do an up to date ‘bruised banana’ kit, then I will be the first person stinking out the train carriage….

gonsterous

lol, are the posters here just trolling ?? this zombie fellow is talking some serious bs. poch is better than emery ? emery hasn’t even settled down in the club, hasnt managed a single game and you’ve already concluded, that he is shit. and you’ve put zidane in your great manager list. he’s just a pep 2.0. Now that he’s left real, just look which club he goes to next. (I bet it’s a club who’ll give him 300m to spend every window). poch has achieved fock all other than finish above wenger (which isn’t a great feat considering Wenger… Read more »

Dissenter

Gonsterous
For every Leroy Sane and Son Heung-min who have thrived , there’s a Kigawa and Nuri Sahin who flopped.
You’re making my point that so called “experience” from the Bundesliga doesn’t necessarily generalize to the premier league.
Experience is often situation-specific , that’s all I’m saying.

Dissenter

Klopp doesn’t sign players
Emery doesn’t sign players as well
Both managers are only as good as their scouting and DoFs.

Zombie

Oh dear it looks like Arsene all over again saying Wenger is better than Klopp and Pep. Emery Knows Best.

Emery failed having Neymar and a unlimited budget in a one team league. If Klopp or Pep had it they would never have lost the league to Monaco.

Also Emery was bullied by his own players. You think. Klopp and Pep would allow anyone to bully them.

Also Emery can’t attract any top players which is why he has signed two shit players while there is queue for Klopp and Pep.

gonsterous

dissenter

actually you are making my point. you keep saying evans is PL experienced and sokrates isn’t when the stats show, it doesn’t matter…

gonsterous

zombie

emery knows best ? I just said you are jumping to conclusions. Like, zidane is a great manager. lol. or you are wanking to a picture of klopp who got humiliated in the CL final. sure he’s attracting big names but it’s not Like he’s not paying for them. come back with your klopp knows best bs when he’s won some thing of note…

Receding hairline

This premier league experience thing is getting boring

Besides no one answered the question.. If Klopp doesn’t win the league next year has he failed??

Receding hairline

Liverpool just signed two players from France.. they don’t have premier league experience yet I can’t hear you complaining Dissenter

gonsterous

Besides no one answered the question.. If Klopp doesn’t win the league next year has he failed?? maybe, maybe not.. for fans the most important thing is trophies, for a BoD. it’s to be consistently at the top. if for example klopp continued to come in 2nd or 3rd for the next few seasons along with occasionally getting to the semi finals of the CL. the BoD would see it as being successful. But then I’m sure they would at that point take his dealings in the transfer market into account. see his spendings as well as how much he… Read more »

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Zombie
how does not winning the UCL in two attempts make Emery a failure?
how does winning all available trophies in league1, except one league trophy in two years make Emery a failure?
do we even what failure is?
and how successful are we in our personal endeavour?
never be quick to judge another.

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The brand name of having never one the league since it was re-branded to its present format?

Okay

Wonder why the media don’t make a meal of that.. I mean it’s even Leicester have won in that period. Anyway that’s for you Liverpool lovers.. I for one enjoy seeing them fail.. And u can paint it all you like they failed last season.

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And I see no one is asking the question they usually do when we sign players so let me do that for you

Who else wanted Fekir.. He isn’t good they had no competition.. Bla bla bla

Where is the proof anyone bid for Fabinho.. Bla bla bla

gonsterous

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yes winning trophies help the brand, never said it didn’t. but you specifically asked if klopp doesn’t win another trophy, or Did you forget your own question ??

Rambo Ramsey

Liverpool making all these early, impressive signings tell me they’ll be selling someone major.

Salah might be Madrid bound, the latest flashy toy for the new Manager at the Bernabeu to play with.

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Gonsterous so now Klopps should be judged by his ability to build the brand not what he wins? I wonder who will now win that first premier league title for Pool if the great Klopp is saddled with building the brand

Zombie

Rambo Ramsey

Liverpool are not Arsenal to sell their best players and as far Coutinho Klopp didn’t think fit his tactivs and let him go only for 140m

Zombie

Haha its hilarious how Real Madrid hire even Laudrap or Guti instead of Wenger even when he is begging for it. Shows what a fraud he is. Should have been sacked after 2005.

gonsterous

receding hairline. I’m done talking to the likes of you, dissenter and isoha. I keep explaining and people still don’t get it. if you read my earlier comment I said the fans see trophies as success. I couldn’t give a rats ass if klopp wins pool a title or not. but u specifically asked if he would be a success without the title. I said in the eyes of the BoD, he would if he remained competitive. I’m not here to judge klopp and for that matter I’m not here to judge emery. I want to see the season out… Read more »

Zombie

Emery has signed a Dortmund reject and Juve reject and a 17 year old

While Klopp has signed 3 world class players

I wish we had Klopp at Arsenal. amazing manager.

Rambo Ramsey

Zombified Canadian fireman, do everyone a favor and go back to a lengthy sleep.