Arsenal fans triggered by Liverpool signing, here’s why that’s misguided

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Arsenal fans are triggered fam.

We’re chasing some tinpot Dortmund centre-back while Liverpool out there dropping £50m on Fabinho. I can’t lie, that does stick in the throat a little. The Monaco player is a classy talent at the base of midfield, one that we’ve been crying out for for a while.

I think this rumour was given more power by a Sky pundit who said we inquired, just a bit late to make the deal happen. We all know Sky has had a crisis of credibility this summer, no doubt because there’s big business is muddy waters when you run a betting company.

Are we passing on Fabinho because we have more expensive fish to fry? Who knows. But a 25-year-old DM with world class in his tank feels like exactly what we need. I’m kind of getting the feeling we’re not going to play in those markets this summer. They’re chasing Allison as their new number 1, we’re hunting down Bernd Leno. I know which I’d prefer.

But then again, maybe we’re stuck in a rut when it comes to self-awareness.

Arsenal are not a Champions League side, and we’re heading into season two with that shame around our neck. There’s no guarantee the new man is going to restore us to glory because regardless of what the fans think, players won’t see Emery in the same league as the managers of the other top 6 sides… yet.

We have to earn our stripes back, so does he. We have to prove that this season is more than a giant recovery plan. Until then, we’re going to have to sift around in the bargain basement, and hope we strike Salah like gold.

But look, that doesn’t mean we can’t find gems. It’s not like Spurs are raiding Monaco for their best players, is it? They’ve done pretty well scouting players over the past few seasons. We just have to hope the board have the guts to take risks and strike when players are on the rise, not after every team in the world wants them (Liverpool > Naby Keita).

Maybe Arsenal fans would feel a little more assured about the path the club were heading down if we dropped an exciting name. But then again, the football club isn’t run for our feelings is it? It’s run within the parameters set out by a frugal Stan Kroenke, and the budget is spent by two guys who know what they’re doing.

I hate to be the one dishing this out, but it’s really early in the window for tears, it looks like we’ve already made 2 signings, and I’d imagine there’s a lot more to come.

> We are not a 2-3 signings kind of club anymore, move away from that Wenger PTSD.

Maybe we have to wait it out before getting triggered that the Champions League finalists are dropping big money on elite players who probably want in on a project that has a high chance of, you know, getting them to the Champions League final.

My god, I want to be sick in my mouth. I’m standing up for the regime. I’m not longer counterculture. I’m part of the NEW problem that is yet to happen.

This is the path I chose… but seriously, let’s not vent too many spleens. The club did some great work in the January transfer window, and I reckon we’ll do some exciting stuff in the coming two months.

We have to exit the dross.

We have to bring in some experience that’ll root out the weakness in our old culture that was built around nice boys and year-round pleasantries.

We’ll have to start lowering the age of the squad. Mikki, Auba, Lichensteiner and Sokratis will boast an average age of 30.5 come the start of next season. It’s quite apparent the strategy is to buy in players who can give us some ‘NOW’ impetus, which is no bad thing considering the importance of the CL money.

However, Ivan said he wanted a manager who could bring through young talent, I am kind of hoping that we can do a Dortmund MKII. Young exciting players, technically gifted, loaded with power and pace, delivering a brand of football you want to pur over.

So the moral of this post is if our work so far looks a bit boring, that’s because it is. That’s because it has to be. We have to rework the fabric of a damaged culture, as well as upgrade the starting 11.

But don’t panic just yet, there’s plenty more to come from this summer, and I can only hope we’re keeping that powder dry for a great keeper, and someone a bit OH MY to replace Sanchez.

POWDER DRY, listen to me. What a boring joke this site is.

Right, see you in the comments, where I expect you to celebrate the balanced tone of this post.

 

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Dissenter

At this rate, Gaurdiola is on course to hit one billion by 2020.

Kay

@CA With the way city are steamrolling evryone they may not need an out and out DM.
Pep can anyway coach Jorginho to be the DM they need

Kay

200k a week Bamford..

BacaryisGod

That Welbeck dummy video is funny except no-one I know ever thought it was intentional in the first place. So it just makes the video completely pointless. So at least Lichtsteiner is coming in on a one year deal and not too. I like his public comments about not needing the money and turning down China. I’m sure he’s being perfectly well compensated but he could well turn out to be a short-term cult hero. As for Ramsey, of course we should keep him but his comments on Emery are misleading. His agent is controlling the process and will run… Read more »

Bamford10

Rambo

What, specifically, are Guardiola’s deficiencies in your opinion? What is amiss in his approach to the game? Who are better managers, IYO, and why specifically are they better? Why is their approach better?

Please don’t just point to results, as doing so provides no insight into why this or that manager succeeds (or doesn’t succeed) in this or that way. Tell us WHY Guardiola falls short, IYO, and why this or that other manager is better.

Dissenter

City are buying the replacement for the replacement of the current player.
They have a manager in waiting,.. until Pep goes out in 2022
Then the usual crowd will celebrate the brilliance of Mikel Arteta, forgetting that the club is dropping money like Trump dumps lies.

BacaryisGod

Have to agree with Gambon on transfer spend. Bargains are great but they should be the exception. Leicester was a once in a lifetime fluke (that’s why they were 5000-1). Arsenal are right now on a downward trajectory and it will take exceptional coaching and some smart acquisitions to reverse that trend because right now our competition is improving on us.

Pierre

I would just like to remind the know nothing brigade(KNOBS) that Arsenal with their team of “midgets” scored the most goals from dead ball situations last season.

TR7

It’s not about Wenger though. All the big talents in the world are getting concentrated in a few clubs -Barca, Real, Bayern, City,PSG and United. As a result, most league are becoming boring and predictable. Heck even Champions League is getting boring these days. You know one out of Madrid, Barça and Bayern will win it 8 out of 10 times. So many promising teams such as Arsenal, Dortmund, Monaco, Napoli have been pulverized over the years the moment they started building something special.Makes football very boring that’s all. There’s a charm attached to seeing teams built through blood,sweat and… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

It’s reported that we are offering Ramsey 130k and he is holding out for 150k. Pretty reasonable if true. So if Ramsey is staying and Ozil is staying surely Xhaka has to be the one giving way? We can’t just leave that terrible midfield as is and Xhaka is the weakest link. With a proper base of a disciplined Ramsey and a mobile dm passer I think Ozil will be a lot better too, but something needs to be done there. We need to stop signing stop gap solutions now just because they’re cheap, if we go cheap it needs… Read more »

Leedsgunner

For years we’ve had to deal with Wenger purchasing unproven youngsters in the hopes they would come good. There were two main problems with this approach. 1. The youngsters didn’t progress as much as we though they would, if at all (eg. Eisfield, Jenkinson, Sanogo) 2. If they did progress and turn out to be WC, they didn’t want to stay with the team to help the team to trophies (Cesc, RvP…) It’s clear that the club has taken a different direction under Emery. He has decided to forego youth/future market value now for immediate experience. I can understand why.… Read more »

champagne charlie

Dissenter

Who are your top 5 coaches in world football?

Maybe provide some criteria/context for why they are as such.

Pierre

I would also like to point out to the know nothing brigade that Arsenal, with their team of “midgets” were 2nd in headed goals (behind Chelsea) last season.

Cesc Appeal

Know Nothing Brigade

Would be KNB wouldn’t it? Pluralisation KNBs?

It is Le Grovellers all over again.

Cesc Appeal

Gazzetta, reputable, dog shit? What are we saying?

Pierre

Know nothing only bull shit = KNOBS

Rambo Ramsey

Bamford, can you tell me where Guardiola has displayed an ability to adapt to the circumstances/type/style of the players he’s got? Radical changes is the only way he knows to operate. Did it at Bayern when there was no need and made them worse. Now buying entire new squads at Manchester.

He doesn’t adapt to opposition as well. Only got one way of playing, a style that has long been sussed out, which is why he continues to fail in the CL.

Cesc Appeal

‘Know nothing only bull shit = KNOBS’

They’ve heard enough of it from Wenger to smell it a mile off 😉

Dissenter

Champagne
Guardiola has to be one of the top three managers, regardless of how it is scored.
My point is there has to be that footnote of “big spender” when you review his record.
My other two managers that have to be on the list are Diego Simeoni and Massimiliano Allegri. These two have to supplement expensive buys with developing talent and turning some turd into silver.
Guardiola???? HE JUST HAS IT BOUGHT FOR HIM.

Dissenter

CC
I have a top-3 manager list. Beyond the top-3 everything is just hogwash subjective…in my humble opinion.

Dissenter

Ramsey will be a fool to settle for anything less than the 170k wer are paying Mykhi.
An absolutely dummy, if he takes less. That’s less than half of what flu-OZIL earns.

gonsterous

I would just like to remind the know nothing brigade(KNOBS) that Arsenal with their team of “midgets” scored the most goals from dead ball situations last season.

wow wonder why we conceded the most from the top 6 in terms of set pieces ? oh wait, cause attack isn’t the problem idiot, it’s our defence that’s leaking goals, hence why we need a taller and better goalie than ospina to replace cech, as well as get a good areal DM or defender…

qna

“Ramsey will be a fool to settle for anything less than the 170k wer are paying Mykhi.” He still has 12 months on his contract. His manager will know exactly what he will be able to get at another club and that will be before a transfer fee. It won’t be anywhere near £170k. Both Mkhitariyan and Ozil deals were done because Wenger boxed us into corners. The ball is in our court as to whether that lets us keep defining us moving forward. We are better off selling him and moving forward by paying players what they are worth,… Read more »

Rambo Ramsey

Its sad that Zidane is never taken seriously in debates about best managers in World football. He’s smashed records galore in LaLiga and CL.

Vintage Gun

“Jorghino in place of Fernandinho weakens City I think”

Me too as Fernandinho’s frame is more rangy and athletic for the DM position.
Cracking player that Jorghino is though.
If he can translate his form and kick on over here under Pep then the worlds his oyster .

Guns of SF

QNA
Agreed. Sell Rambo now, we can get some decent cash now for him. He is in the prime age and did fairly ok last season. 50M would be great biz. Add to that our mooted 70M and we can make some good moves. Younger and better is what the team needs.
No more NOZIL type contracts until we get CL on a regular basis.

qna

GSF. I with you. He is not that good a player. If our rebuild is dependent on him then it’s dokmed from the start. He can be handy, but his £50m and saved wages will be more useful.

qna

*I agree with you

Marko

What exactly are we rewarding Ramsey for? Suppose the same as Ozil

Dissenter

I just successfully lured qna and Guns of SF in a kill-zone crossfire range.
Expect incoming, you two 😉
No one messes with Ramsey here.

qna

Dissenter. Make no mistake, I would gladly sell off 20 players in our extended list. Ramsey is not my biggest target by a long shot, but one of the few with any value.

Our squad players are so terribly over-rated it’s not funny. When Emery does no better than Wenger this season, they will again escape the brunt of criticism with Emery getting the blame as a wrong choice.

Guns of SF

50M and we wish Rambo a good luck and goodbye
Not a bad guy… loved him after the leg break. A real hero but has not performed to expectations…. ill disciplined and is kinda slow IMO. We can do better. Dont ever want to be handcuffed to sentimentality again or paying for loyalty or years or service. You do well, you get paid well. That is what it should be. You suck, you get sold.

You can find him at the Zoo, so a nice lad overall.

Guns of SF

Not to forget his fitness. Always misses weeks out of the season for soft tissue issues etc. For that amount of money, we can do with someone more reliable and just as skilled or even better…
Rambo is actually one that I hope would do better leaving us.

TR7

Kicker: #AFC and #BVB have agreed in principle a fee of €17m for Sokratis, the finer details are in the process of being finalised. Medical could take place next week.

champagne charlie

Dissenter

So what criteria do you judge a manager on out of curiosity? and which of that criteria do you view as ‘more to less’ important..

Pierre

Goonsterous
“wow wonder why we conceded the most from the top 6 in terms of set pieces ? oh wait, cause attack isn’t the problem idiot”
Xz
Would just like to point out that you are talking bullshit again yer knob.

Man U ..set piece goals conceded …10
Spurs……………………………………..10
Liverpool……………………………..8
Arsenal ………………….,,………….7
Chelsea………..6
City…….3

Marc

Ha look’s like one of Pierre or Gonsterous need to back their stats up. It’s be interesting to add in the number of set pieces conceded that could be classed as directs?

Crazy thing is anyone who thinks we don’t need a better keeper really needs some help, better defenders yes but also better coaching and organisation. I can’t understand why it has to be one or the other.

Terraloon

He still has 12 months on his contract. His manager will know exactly what he will be able to get at another club and that will be before a transfer fee. It won’t be anywhere near £170k. Both Mkhitariyan and Ozil deals were done because Wenger boxed us into corners. The ball is in our court as to whether that lets us keep defining us moving forward. We are better off selling him and moving forward by paying players what they are worth, not inflated wages. He will have seen just how much the power shifted from the club to… Read more »

Marc

CC Surely the measure of a manager is his ability to achieve results / targets relative to his resources. Getting Burnley to 7th was a major achievement for Dyche but that doesn’t mean he’s qualified to take on a club the size of Arsenal – running a successful fruit and veg stand doesn’t mean you could step into the shoes of the Tesco’s CEO. There also has to be a point of turning league placements into trophy’s. Poch has had 4 years if Emery hasn’t done better in the same amount of time then people on here will be calling… Read more »

Marc

Terraloon

He’s also got to have a “big” club interested in signing him on those big wages. Would PSG, Barca, Madrid or Bayern be interested? I have no idea, not sure City would interested and it looks like Liverpool have their midfield sown up. That leaves ManU which is a difficult one as I don’t think Mourinho will be their next summer.

gambon

The ball is not in Ramseys court….it’s in between.

If Ramsey won’t extend he will be sold.

If he says he doesn’t want to leave the club can literally stop him kicking a ball for 12 months.

No games, no training. Nothing.

No club would touch him if he hasn’t even trained for 12 months.

Cesc Appeal

£15 Million for Sokratis is not bad.

Lichtsteiner and Sokratis to start, that is a lot of experience added straight away. I am expecting the other CB addition to be Soynucu later on in the summer.

I think a CDM will be next.

Dissenter

CC How do I assess the managers on my list 1. Leadership – Pep isn’t that great. He’s known to delegate the difficult stuff to assistant. Ibrahimovich famously alluded this saying that Pep never told him to his face why he wasn’t needed 2. Results – All three managers are serial winners. Simeone is the only one that really punches above the weight of resources domestically. 3. Personal Qualities; all three have spell-binding personalities in their unique ways. 4. Technical details – I think all three are exceptional. I can’t say who’s better since I have never observed their training… Read more »

Marc

gambon

There’s also a major question over a bunch of our players – how actually good are they?

We could have some world beaters who have floundered under Wenger, others like being able to show up when it suits them for the occasional big match but who can never step it up.

Marc

Cesc

Nice to have someone on here being balanced and positive.

Even nicer to have something to be balanced and positive about!

Elmo

RR “Its sad that Zidane is never taken seriously in debates about best managers in World football.” I think this is based on the widely held perception that he’s not a strong tactician, and is instead someone who can man-manage a group of the very best players who are good enough just to be sent out on the pitch. Other managers failed to direct and unify the group, because they didn’t understand the mindset of Galactico players, who didn’t want to be told by a strong tactician like Rafa Benitez about rigidly sticking to a system and being in a… Read more »

Marc

Elmo

He also finished third in a two horse race – something he might still lose his job over. If not this summer he’ll be on thin ice next season.

Cesc Appeal

Marc I cannot be doing with doom and gloom, the reason for doom and gloom is gone, his coaches are gone and it feels so good to be positive about Arsenal again or at least to not know what is around the corner. I expect smart buys, Lichtsteiner for free is one, Sokratis for just £15 Million is another, both add experience to the side, you can imagine throwing Lichtsteiner on in front of Bellerin if you have a marginal lead in the last minutes of a game away from home or against a big side. Then players like Soyuncu… Read more »

Olumide

Lol at Zidane is not a strong technician.
When Bale came on against Liverpool, I knew he would make something happen. The same thing that happened when he brought on Asensio agave psg.
A manager who’s not a strong technician can win champions league 3 times in a row?

Freddie Ljungberg

Yacine Adli on his way from PSG, 17 year old AM, was voted the outstanding prospect in their youth squad this season.
Tall, eye for a pass, likes to dribble, decent pace.

Needs to bulk up a bit and not the finished article but if we’re signing youth players this is the calibre we should be targeting.

Marc

Cesc

Mate I think we’ve been on much the same wave length for some time. I just don’t understand why other posters can’t understand that some signings will be quick fix on a budget, others will be more extravagant or long term.

Let’s just get behind the new team, Raul, Sven and Dick and players.

Marc

FJ

Sounds like a Sven signing – sort of thing he was brought into do.

azed

In addition to what Elmo has said, Zidane hasn’t really “changed the game”. Yeah he’s won 3 CL’s but he did that without wowing or influencing the game. After Pep beat us at the Emirates, Wenger went full on Barca lite, dropped the pace and power that won him the EPL. Conte forced other managers to go three at the back. Maureen changed the EPL from its adopted 442 formation. Pep and Klopp made teams start thinking about pressing from the front. Wenger made teams take dieting and scouting of cheap players from other leagues. There’s nothing we can say… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

Think it’s more of an Emery signing, he’s 12 years too young and hasn’t played for BVB;)

Also the article mentioned that it was because of Emerys influence, makes sense, he should know him after 2 years there.

Marc

Just struck me – do Turkish players qualify as EU players?

If not we’re going to have an issue with non EU players.

Marc

FJ

Really negative on Sven there – of course Emery would know him I wasn’t paying enough attention trying to watch a really excellent documentary series on PBS on Vietnam.

Guns of SF

Gambon You know we wont do that to Rambo- I think the best is to give the drop dead date this summer- sign or be sold by “x” date and do not plan to be with team next season Ozil called our bluff and won on this matter… we need to be more firm and that is it. 170M is a lot of cash…. certainly a lot to use on other players etc. He would be a fool to reject it but we cannot wait forever. Lots of big teams are doing their business now instead of post WC…. A… Read more »

Gooner63

Liverpool – Fabinho and fekir, maybe Allinson

Utd – looking to buy Bale

City – Mahrez

Cheksea talking about bringing in Sarri and Icardi

Arsenal – 34yr old Lichtsteiner and Sokratis

Yessssssssssss we are back in the big time

Freddie Ljungberg

Well, except for Mavropanos, who, from the little we have seen looks very promising, Sven hasn’t really done anything other than bringing in 29 year old ex Dortmund players, I hope it stops now.

Also hoping we’re looking more towards France and not just in the bundesliga.

Dissenter

Just struck me – do Turkish players qualify as EU players?

BREXIT

Dissenter

Why are we signing the Yacine Adli chap on a three year deal?
Get him in on a low wage 7 year deal. We don’t seem to be learning our lessons.

Marc

Dissenter

Footballers won’t get caught up in that, too much money at stake. All the major parties would suddenly have voters (from all clubs) going mental and the TV deals would crash. The best British players are fucking awful and there’s only 1 or 2 of them, suddenly needing 20 players for 20 clubs – pub teams will be able to give PL teams a go.

Cesc Appeal

Marc

The only wrong move they have made so far is Ozil’s new contract, other than that no reason not to trust them.

If you had said this time last year Gazidis would have got rid of Wenger, his coaches, brought in a great DoF and a head of recruitment, people would have been on top of the world.

Cesc Appeal

Just saw that Adli deal, good stuff, sounds like an Emery suggestion though, someone he spotted at PSG.

gambon

This Also guy will be another pointless signing.

Will spend 2 years showing zero improvement in the U23s, go on loan to a rogue one club then quietly disappear.

Campbell, Wellington, Bielik, Freeman, Merida, Ebecillio, Fortune, Reine-adelaide say hi.

Should be focusing our efforts on young players that are already showing top quality.

Guns of Brixton

Liverpool – Fabinho and fekir, maybe AllinsonUtd – looking to buy BaleCity – MahrezCheksea talking about bringing in Sarri and IcardiArsenal – 34yr old Lichtsteiner and SokratisYessssssssssss we are back in the big time

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Terraloon

Gambon The approach you talk about may well have been how clubs exercised their muscle in the past but if the club adopted that approach in the modern era then the ramifications would be significant going forward First off they can’t banish him from training yes of course he could be forced to train with the kids but there would be one truckload of trouble if he wasn’t given the same sort of care etc afforded to other senior professionals. As for no club touching him I doubt that the real big clubs would want , need or indeed pay… Read more »

salpardisenyc

Cesc

Imagine we have input from 3 people on player acquistion’s now. Let the good times roll.

Receding hairline

Lol…Chelsea talking about…they don’t even know who their manager will be next season

United bring in bale at a 100+ million ..good luck with that

Let’s wait till Fekir and Allison sign before moaning

Marc

Terralon

Slight problem with your argument. Ramsey’s holding out for £170k a week, if we say no then he can go on a free to “Bournemouth” for £150k a week.

1) Ramsey’s ego is top 8 teams in the world.

2) So he goes on a free and instead of getting a bumper pay deal (no fee so put into wages instead) he gets less.

According to you he’s got a great fucking agent.

Freddie Ljungberg

Dissenter It’s a 3 year deal with option to extend a further 2 years. Who in their right mind would sign a 7 year low wage contract? That would be crazy. Gambon He is their most promising player, so there must be something there, especially if Emery has recommended him. We need to sign players in the 20-24 age bracket as well that can make an impact right away, but it doesn’t hurt making these low cost signing at the same time. With some capable coaches and only bringing jn the best youths it could save/make us millions in the… Read more »

Receding hairline

Lol…he rejects a contract at Arsenal and goes to Bournemouth….it’s way past some folks bedtime

gambon

Lol

Terralon thinks Ramsey wants to miss a year of football in order to go to Bournemouth for a pay cut.

Cesc Appeal

Sal Exactly. When they give me a reason to have a go at them, I will. The new deal for Ozil is the only thing so far. It is 30 May and we looked like having two signings done already, Wenger would have been talking about Mavropanos being like a new signing, Caz being like a new signing etc. We are clearly after a CDM as well which is a position Wenger routinely ignored year after year. The club know they have to win the fans back, they know all eyes are on them and they know, all of them… Read more »

Terraloon

Marc

Did you miss the £10 million signing on fee which would be equal to around£2 million a year or £40 k a week add that to the £150k a week and his contract would be worth around £190k a week or a £5 million more than currently being offered by Arsenal over the period of the contract

Gooner63

Wenger stretched the credit he got for his first eight years into fourteen years of patience and I mean he really tested things for the last four or five years. They don’t have that, they won’t have fans lining up to make increasingly nonsensical defences for them.

surely the MSGKBs will be out in force

Receding hairline

Terralon has Ramsey’s deal with Bournemouth all figured out

He should thank his stars you are not his agent..in fact every sportsman should do the same

Marc

Cesc

You could easily argue under the current management team the Ozil and Sanchez situations wouldn’t have gotten to the point they did.

The Ozil contract was pure commercial reasoning – how do we go to Adidas and get a £70 million a year shirt deal when we’ve just lost out to record signings – one on a free.

We should never have gotten ourselves in the situation in the first place.

Marc

Terraloon

Campbell got a £15 million signing on fee and that was 17 years ago, back then you could buy a house in central London for £10 million.

You really think Ramsey would be happy to live out his career spending New Years eve wondering whether he could get relegated in 5 months?

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Cesc

Whose this ?

steve

Ramsey doesn’t deserve a new deal. Bog standard player.

salpardisenyc

Cesc,

Ozil’s deal has Wenger’s prints all over it, panic move in wake of Sanchez debacle. Still grappling for power that was clearly waning, he turned around and realized the new guys signed PEA and got Mhki out of Sanchez.

Think the defensive mid purchase will say much about Emery and direction were headed. Indeed a position that never looked sorted after Gilberto. Personally feel Emery is going to use Xhaka as a deep lying playmaker in mold of how Pep used Xabi Alonso with a more combative partner like Vidal.

Guns of SF

Love Vidal, that dude is a freaking warrior, especially with Chile. He gives a real beating and also gets one in every game ive seen. Tough as nails. Keeps on ticking, so cool and confident on the ball. Amazing player.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Just seen Aldi

Another yoot ….off potential

Terraloon

Receding Hairline The mentioning of Bournemouth was to try and illustrate that when you exclude a fee then even lower tier clubs can be far more creative when signing a player. Take the mickey all you like but the Ramsey situation is a mess and it is possible that he quite simply will say no to the new contract and no to a transfer. Others seem to think the club are in control of the situation but we have seen the mess a club can get into when you get into the last year of a players contract and here… Read more »

gambon

Im quite surprised theres been no talk of Malcom in the last few weeks.

It seems we were close to a deal in January, I thought we would be back in for him well before the season finished.

Receding hairline

Ramsey will be sold if he does not sign s new deal

End of story

gambon

Wilshere is a completely different situation.

He was allowed to leave last summer, but no clubs wanted him.

Guns of SF

Is the club so quiet like a calm before the storm? Are we going to hear of some epic signings in quick succession? Its like crickets and that could be a good or bad thing.
I hoping for a real DM quickly.
Add Dembele and its icing on the cake

Mid is sorted for now.

Guns of SF

Receding- need a drop dead date to sign the new deal. If its been offered to his team, then they must abide by the deadline date. No ifs ands or buts
No more Ozil BS with contracts

Marc

GOSF

Easy there mate – it’ll happen when it happens.

It is nice to be excited about a summer TW though.

Guns of SF

Marc
Seeing other teams making hard moves now. Doubt much will happen during the WC- maybe after the tourney is finished. But now would be good- especially to settle the team and us bored (me) fan with this lack of transfer so far…
I think ive been conditioned for dissapointment with Wengers last week of the window bargain shopping over the years that its impacted me lol

Terraloon

Marc

Indeed
But in 2001s Arsenal’s turnover was £62 million, its now what £400 million even Bournemouth has turnover in excess of £120 million. and very very few fees paidwere in excess of £10 million let alone £15 million. Football today bears no relation to the early years of this century
As for looking over his shoulder you have a point if he went to Bournemouth but would that be the case if Everton say signed him on the same sort of package I illustrated?

Receding hairline

@Guns

From what I read a five year deal is on the table and he and his advisers have been invited to talk.

Personally I believe it will be a business like meeting ..no more grand dad Wenger asking that his babies be left alone.

He signs a deal or he finds a club willing to match whatever valuation we place on him.

Wilshere should not be offered a deal under any circumstances by the way ….that’s my personal opinion

Marc

There hasn’t been a case of a major player using the Webster ruling. There seems to be an un written rule between clubs that you don’t touch a player who invokes this because once that happens the whole transfer system would collapse.

Stop grasping at straws – admit using Bournemouth was a ridiculous example, a club that Ramsey would never choose unless there were no other options when he aspires to play for Barca.

Terraloon

Gambon indeed they didn’t but that was down as much to the fee that Arsenal wanted which was said to be £20 million. Clubs did want him such as Newcastle but quite simply add his wage to that sort of fee and it was too rich for them.

Marc

Terraloon

Everton? Non entities. See my point above Ramsey wants good money of course he also wants titles and CL football.

Now name a team that will offer the money and the prestige and I’ll have a conversation till then give it a rest.

Guns of SF

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I agree Wishere, cannot be resigned at all. There is no upside to him. He will stay the same or slowly dwindle. This year, was fairly injury free and a major non impact, aside from his shirt pulling, getting dribbled by, and pushed off the ball and wanting to fight someone. I dont mind his fire but thats about all he adds now.
We dont need this….

Terraloon

Marc

Read my post at 22.40

Knagg Champa

Does anyone here know Lucas Torreira enough to shed some light?

What kind of player is he?

Is he anything​ decent?

Please do tell.

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