Arsenal fans triggered by Liverpool signing, here’s why that’s misguided

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Arsenal fans are triggered fam.

We’re chasing some tinpot Dortmund centre-back while Liverpool out there dropping £50m on Fabinho. I can’t lie, that does stick in the throat a little. The Monaco player is a classy talent at the base of midfield, one that we’ve been crying out for for a while.

I think this rumour was given more power by a Sky pundit who said we inquired, just a bit late to make the deal happen. We all know Sky has had a crisis of credibility this summer, no doubt because there’s big business is muddy waters when you run a betting company.

Are we passing on Fabinho because we have more expensive fish to fry? Who knows. But a 25-year-old DM with world class in his tank feels like exactly what we need. I’m kind of getting the feeling we’re not going to play in those markets this summer. They’re chasing Allison as their new number 1, we’re hunting down Bernd Leno. I know which I’d prefer.

But then again, maybe we’re stuck in a rut when it comes to self-awareness.

Arsenal are not a Champions League side, and we’re heading into season two with that shame around our neck. There’s no guarantee the new man is going to restore us to glory because regardless of what the fans think, players won’t see Emery in the same league as the managers of the other top 6 sides… yet.

We have to earn our stripes back, so does he. We have to prove that this season is more than a giant recovery plan. Until then, we’re going to have to sift around in the bargain basement, and hope we strike Salah like gold.

But look, that doesn’t mean we can’t find gems. It’s not like Spurs are raiding Monaco for their best players, is it? They’ve done pretty well scouting players over the past few seasons. We just have to hope the board have the guts to take risks and strike when players are on the rise, not after every team in the world wants them (Liverpool > Naby Keita).

Maybe Arsenal fans would feel a little more assured about the path the club were heading down if we dropped an exciting name. But then again, the football club isn’t run for our feelings is it? It’s run within the parameters set out by a frugal Stan Kroenke, and the budget is spent by two guys who know what they’re doing.

I hate to be the one dishing this out, but it’s really early in the window for tears, it looks like we’ve already made 2 signings, and I’d imagine there’s a lot more to come.

> We are not a 2-3 signings kind of club anymore, move away from that Wenger PTSD.

Maybe we have to wait it out before getting triggered that the Champions League finalists are dropping big money on elite players who probably want in on a project that has a high chance of, you know, getting them to the Champions League final.

My god, I want to be sick in my mouth. I’m standing up for the regime. I’m not longer counterculture. I’m part of the NEW problem that is yet to happen.

This is the path I chose… but seriously, let’s not vent too many spleens. The club did some great work in the January transfer window, and I reckon we’ll do some exciting stuff in the coming two months.

We have to exit the dross.

We have to bring in some experience that’ll root out the weakness in our old culture that was built around nice boys and year-round pleasantries.

We’ll have to start lowering the age of the squad. Mikki, Auba, Lichensteiner and Sokratis will boast an average age of 30.5 come the start of next season. It’s quite apparent the strategy is to buy in players who can give us some ‘NOW’ impetus, which is no bad thing considering the importance of the CL money.

However, Ivan said he wanted a manager who could bring through young talent, I am kind of hoping that we can do a Dortmund MKII. Young exciting players, technically gifted, loaded with power and pace, delivering a brand of football you want to pur over.

So the moral of this post is if our work so far looks a bit boring, that’s because it is. That’s because it has to be. We have to rework the fabric of a damaged culture, as well as upgrade the starting 11.

But don’t panic just yet, there’s plenty more to come from this summer, and I can only hope we’re keeping that powder dry for a great keeper, and someone a bit OH MY to replace Sanchez.

POWDER DRY, listen to me. What a boring joke this site is.

Right, see you in the comments, where I expect you to celebrate the balanced tone of this post.


1,168 Responses to “Arsenal fans triggered by Liverpool signing, here’s why that’s misguided”

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  1. Graham62

    Lacazette or Balotelli?

    I repeat……

    Lacazette or Balotelli?

    One more time…………….

    Lacazette or Balotelli?!!!

    We have a new manager in place and some of you want to get rid of one of our few positives from last season.

    I thought this was a blog for those who had an understanding of the game of football.

    For Pete’s sake!

  2. Bamford10


    Who is calling for selling Lacazette AND signing Balotelli?

    Be specific. The answer, I think, is no one.

    Some are calling for selling Lacazette, but that is only one part of your two-part claim.

  3. Redtruth

    “Why would RM take Wenger on after his recent track record?”

    Because those in the game live in a bubble and hsve no perception of reality.

  4. Emiratesstroller


    Lemar was most certainly not out half the season through injury. He was out for a month with shoulder injury.

    He played 37 games last season including 29 in French Ligue and 2,784 Minutes which is considerably more time on pitch than most of Arsenal’s offensive players.

    The real point I am making is that Lacazette offers more at Arsenal than most
    of the wingers that are being promoted on Le Grove, because he is a GOAL
    SCORER. Bluntly Arsenal need more than one such player in the TEAM/SQUAD.

    Lacazette cost us as a 25 year old who scored 30 goals in previous two seasons
    £45 million. Compare that with Lemar who would have cost £90 million+. I
    Know which I would prefer.

    Most of the wingers discussed have had one decent season on which we are
    forming an opinion and a willingness to spend astronomic sums of money.

    It is conceivable that we could be discussing players like Maitland-Niles and
    Nelson in the same breath next season and they cost us nothing.

  5. Graham62


    Ok, let me put it another way.

    Some on here want to sell Lacazette(fudging ridiculous), whilst others want to bring in Balotelli(fudging ridiculous).

    In both cases, it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.

  6. Dissenter

    I got that bit wrong. I just assumed his slump this season was due to a lengthy injury spell.
    Good thing we ran out of time with that 92 million deal.

  7. Dissenter

    I’ve always thought Abramovich has contributed immensely to British society, at least looking at the situation from the outside. He’s affected the premier league in a very debasing way,upendned the balance of power in European football. He’s affected premier league football as much as any elite manager has done.
    He’s probably poured over 1 billion into that wretched club. Surely that has to count for something.
    The new stadium would have brought lots of construction jobs. I don’t get why they’ve let this drag on for so long. London has always prided itself as the billionaires capital, not so much now.

  8. salpardisenyc

    Imagine the banter of a Wenger hire at Madrid?
    Double that with Pock being plucked from Tottenham after Levy extending him.

  9. Major_Jeneral

    What is this whole fuss about selling Lacazette? I thought we are done selling our valauble players.

    Anyone with any lead about Le-grove’s whereabouts?

  10. Emiratesstroller


    Actually we are both wrong. According to Transfermarkt Lacazette cost just
    over £47 million, which in today’s market is I would suggest fairly cheap for
    a striker.

    Morata and Lukaku cost considerably more.

    Lacazette has most definitely improved in second half of season as he adapted
    to English game and there was no longer over dependence on him scoring
    our goals. Playing alongside Aubameyang on a more regular basis will alleviate the pressure.

  11. Guns of SF

    Mario and laca are 2 different type of strikers
    Hard to compare but Mario had major baggage whereas laca not so much a nice guy mostly. I’d like to see how next season goes for him as he struggled to adapt when he started last season

  12. Bamford10


    Selling Lacazette in order to use that money to strengthen elsewhere would not be ridiculous at all. I’m not advocating that we do this, but I see Lacazette as a back-up to Aubameyng, and if we could get 45m+ for Lacazette, I don’t see why we would need a 45m back-up and I don’t see why we shouldn’t use that 45m for something we do need in the XI.

    Nothing ridiculous whatsoever about that view.

    Two, what did you mean when you said that “critical views” here were ultimately because of Wenger? If you imagine that criticism of Arsenal players will cease here now that Wenger is gone, you are out of your mind. Criticism is what this place does, and people here will continue to criticize Arsenal players until everyone here thinks all of our players are good enough. That’s a whiles away.

  13. Jim Lahey

    Yeah lets sell Lacazette so when Aubameyng does his cruciate in two weeks into the new season we can all talk about how Welbeck stretches defences…

  14. gambon

    “Morata and Lukaku cost considerably more.”

    Why are you comparing CHelsea and Man Utds first choice CF, with our back up CF?

  15. Buckhurst Gun

    “You think Le Grove is this place where people are biased AGAJNST Arsenal. But this is ridiculous. People here want Arsenal to be great; they just have more critical opinions — and more objective opinions, IMO — than the average fan, who generally thinks being a “supporter” means shutting one’s mouth and supporting the manager and players.”

    Well said

  16. Guns of SF

    Saw some videos of torreira
    Nice looking feisty player!
    Good passer
    Could be what we need

  17. gambon

    Jim Lahey

    So we should plan our whole squad around every player doing their cruciate?

    Maybe we should buy Icardi for £60m just incase Lacazette does his cruciate.

    We should also buy Oblak, Alisson and Leno just in case the first 2 get injured.

  18. Cesc Appeal

    Why are people talking though like you sell Lacazette and then just bank the money?

    You put it toward a winger and then find a young up and coming ST in Europe or South America like most clubs do.

    That makes far more sense than keeping a £45 Million asset on the bench just in case Aubameyang does an ACL or to play against teams in the Europa League who’s CBs arrive at the stadium fresh from fixing someones boiler.

  19. Park Chu-young's left testicle

    Strikers currently on the payroll:

  20. Jim Lahey


    “So we should plan our whole squad around every player doing their cruciate?”

    Yeah thats exactly what I was getting at..

  21. UTarse

    “So Abramovich has pulled the plug on the Chavs’ new stadium!”

    Mark my words, he is done with the UK after this visa debacle. He will sell up, whether it takes him 6 months, a year or 2… so fingers crossed they get an American like ours who just wants to pad out his portfolio and watch his investment grow….

  22. Bamford10


    Morata was signed in order to be a starter, obviously. And he had back issues the whole season. Plus, if he is a disappointment, Chelsea would be right to sell him, not hold on to him because it is nice to have a 50m+ back-up CF.

  23. Pierre

    Buckhurst gun
    “You think Le Grove is this place where people are biased AGAJNST Arsenal”

    No… Why would anyone think that..

  24. Bamford10


    One, is Welbeck actually that bad of a back-up CF? I don’t know.

    Two, what’s keeping us from signing a better (but still relatively inexpensive) back-up? Nothing.

  25. Marko

    If we can get away with keeping Lacazette as back up and bring in a much needed winger then great but if not ask yourselves does a winger improve our starting 11 compared to a back up striker or rotating one? It’s simple really I like Lacazette but we need to improve the starting 11 and if someone were to pay what we did for him we should consider it

  26. UTarse

    “One, is Welbeck actually that bad of a back-up CF? I don’t know.”

    You don’t know ? Are you saying that with a straight face or is your mouth wide open and dripping ?

  27. Emiratesstroller


    I suggest that you take a look at stats of Lukaku and Morata performances and
    compare them with Lacazette.

    Both played more games and starts than Lacazette yet Lukaku scored 17 goals
    and Morata 11 goals in EPL. Lacazette with less game time scored 14 goals.

    More importantly Lacazette was given more playing time in last 2 months of
    the season scoring 8 goals in 10 games [incl 2 coming off bench in last 20 minutes].

    Morata for the record was displaced by Giroud in many of the games at end
    of season.

  28. alexanderhenry


    Yes, it looks like abramovich could be losing interest.
    That’s good for arsenal though.

  29. Marko

    You put it toward a winger and then find a young up and coming ST in Europe or South America like most clubs do.

    Like for example you get 50 million for him you sign a Maxi Gomez or Kasper Dolberg for 20-25 million and put the rest towards a winger

  30. Bamford10

    You see, this is why I call some of the people who come here “anti-Le-Grovers”. Because this is precisely what they are.

    Does anyone remember when certain blogs and Twitter accounts started talking about “anti-Arsenal Arsenal fans” a few years back? That was basically these guys, this sort; now they just come here instead and complain that people are too negative about Arsenal and too positive about others clubs.

    Most of these guys are relatively pleasant, though, so I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. We should all be able to get along. But I definitely reject the notion that people here are biased against Arsenal or unfair or unreasonable about our weaknesses or failings. That’s bogus.

  31. TR7

    Man United had RVP, Rooney,Hernandez and Welbeck, they had a hard time accommodating other 3 strikers with RVP starting each game, didn’t they?

    If we need to fund a winger, we should sell numerous fringe players on our book, not Lacazette. Are you telling me we can’t fund a winger if we sell Perez, Welbeck, Campbell, Iwobi, Asano, Akpom? Bollocks!

  32. Bamford10


    No, I mean that. I don’t think Welbeck is all that great, but I don’t know that he is a TERRIBLE back-up. That seems a bit a strong to me.

    But as I said, if you think that’s the case, there’s nothing keeping us from going into the market and getting a better back-up.

  33. gambon


    Did UTD pay £50m, and £170k per week to Hernandez & Welbeck?

    You have just completely shown the point that was trying to be made.

    Your back up striker is usually a young up and coming, and much cheaper player than Lacazette.

    You think its good business to have our 3rd highest earner sitting on the bench?

  34. Pierre

    Cesc Appeal
    “Ramsey’s comments and the fact it seems he will sign a new deal suggest, at least, there is some truth to those rumours.”

    Would just like to point out that Ramsey also said that he hasn’t, as yet, spoken to the new manager yet.

    You would think that, if you believe all you read, that the first thing the new manager would have done is arranged a meeting with the player who, if you believe all you read, is to be the new captain and, if you believe all you read, that the team will be built around.

    But no, Emery, according to Ramsey, has not even spoken to this most important player to persuade him to stay at the club.

    Does anyone think that makes sense…. No.. Neither do I.

  35. UTarse

    I hope so. Unless they get a state sponsor who wants to show they have bigger bollocks than city.

  36. gambon

    “Are you telling me we can’t fund a winger if we sell Perez, Welbeck, Campbell, Iwobi, Asano, Akpom? Bollocks!”

    Asano is already on loan because the club know they have no chance of selling him.

    The rest we would get £30m for.

    £30m wont buy the kind of guy we need to improve the first team.

  37. Dissenter

    Lets ask the question the other way around
    If I were Laca
    I would be mad about missing out on the world cup squad. I would wonder if being pulled out by Wenger in the 67th minute in the first half of the season then being supplanted is good for my career.
    I would want to move to a club where I can start every game possible .. at the age of 27 years.
    C’mon, how many clubs have a 55 million transfer rated striker on their books?
    What does being number two with limited games do to his transfer value?
    Should a club with so many structural weakness and imbalances have a striker that’s worth that much on the bench?

    Please stop acting like you’re all astounded or offended because simple questions are being asked,

  38. qna

    Wenger to Madrid should be a no lose situation for us shouldn’t it.

    He fails: proves the point of Wenger Out people.

    He succeeds: proves the point that the club has failed us by buying cheap players instead of spending on a quality list.

    I have always felt it was a combination of both that has led to our downfall. But more because we have wasted our time with sub-par players like the British core and 2nd rate players like Podolski, Giroud, Lacazette rather than spending and competing for the best.

  39. Marko

    Pretty simple do you want a 50 million pound player sitting on the bench or a 50 million pound winger in the starting 11?

  40. raptora

    Lacazette in the EPL:
    Apps Mins Goals Assists MotM Rating
    26(6) 2212 14 4 1 7.09

    Aubameyang in the EPL:
    Apps Mins Goals Assists MotM Rating
    12(1) 1058 10 4 2 7.33

    Says it all really. Should have bought Auba in the summer and keep Giroud in the team. This way we save 35m+ and have two different options in attack. Plan A and plan B.

  41. Emiratesstroller

    Bamford 10

    The real point about Welbeck is that he is home grown and a utility player.
    There is no expectation that he will start in the team and he is a “bench player”

    Lacazette is most certainly a starting eleven player as would have been case if
    he joined any other club including Athletico Madrid.

    The only debate is whether we can play both Aubameyang and Lacazette in the same starting eleven. Personally I think we can.

    Strikers are generally selfish players but surprisingly on the evidence of watching both play together that is not the case. Aubameyang can not only score goals, but also provide assists and it should not be forgotten that he allowed Lacazette to take a penalty in one game.

  42. Receding Hairline

    If Emery decides he does not need Lacazette in the squad and will rather have a winger then so be it.

    If Emery decides he does not need Xhaka in his midfield then so be it.

    What i am against is this notion by some on here that this and this must be done for us to achieve success next season. It is never really that simple. Let the Coach do his thing and let us judge him when he is done.

    Lacazette has just spent a year getting used to playing with us…and Bamford i see how you have thrown in Moratta’s back problems in there as an excuse for him but you have never once mentioned Lacazette’s issues that ended up in surgery , you objective one ……now we want to sell him fast for a a shiny new winger.

    Good luck with that

  43. Rambo Ramsey

    All this Lacazette talk is moot. There’s no chance the club will actively try to push him out this season. Only if the player wants it.

  44. raptora

    Lacazette is a worse Aubameyang iz all. We had the best tall CF backup in the world. Tbh since we were stuck with Lacazette it made more sense for us to invest the Auba money in someone that can make a difference in the Europa league here and now. If we had someone of Auba’s influence eligible to play in our team, we would have won the trophy. Reason why I’m not really excited about our power duo. Winter was a disaster. We didn’t need another Ozil alike and we adding another expensive forward, ineligible to play for the only trophy we could have won, to fix the mess from the summer wasn’t number one priority either. I remain cautiously pessimistic. No signals that anything good is coming our way.

  45. China

    Very much agreed raptora. Giroud was a useful striker with a very different set of attributes which are useful against certain teams and when you need to dramatically switch things up

    But we’re here now and at least laca is good

  46. TR7


    Rooney was being paid over 300K/week and he wasn’t even their main striker.

    For someone who for eons have advocated we pay top wages to compete, it’s surprising you are so hung up on Laca’s wages. For me paying 70k to players who are of no use is more a waste of money than paying 160K to someone who can contribute.

  47. China

    Marko why is it an either or?

    We can probably get 15-20 mil for welbeck, 10 mil for Perez and another 10+ mil just from selling some of our useless loanees.

    That’s 40 odd million towards a 50m winger without even touching the first team or weakening the squad at all

  48. raptora

    You know what I’d do? Sell Ramsey for 50m to whoever wants him and is willing to pay 50m at all?!?!?! then buy Shaqiri for ~20m. Let’s make a whole starting 11 of eastern europeans. Joke aside you get at worse a player of similar quality even though I like Ramsey, I think Shaqiri is better than him and he’s looking for a way out of Championship Stoke, and you get some cash as well. No brainer.

  49. qna

    As has always been the case on LG. Fans always defend our middling players by quoting statistics. The bottom line is that for years these players have failed to deliver for us in big matches. This is actually where the difference between a top tier player and a second tier player makes a difference. For the rest of the games, their stats will be comparable. Against poorer teams there will be less pressure and more time and so the 2nd tier player can finish the opportunities as well as the top tier player.

    Arsenal set up for top 4, and that takes us a long way because it’s usually 11 x 2nd tier players vs 3-4 x 2nd tier and the rest 3rd tier player. But when we come up against a team that is well coached, or with a home ground advantage, or with a number of tier 1 players we are no match for them.

  50. gambon

    “For someone who for eons have advocated we pay top wages to compete,”

    A high wage ceiling, not huge wages for literally everyone.

    How can your 3rd top earner be a bench warming striker?

    I’ll say it again, if we had signed Auba last summer, would ANYONE literally anyone have then been calling for us to go and spend £50m on another CF to back him up?

    Ask yourself why Barcelona dont have a £50m back up striker on £170k pw?

    Ask yourself why Madrid dont have a £50m back u striker on £170k pw?

    Ask yourself why Man City dont have a £50m back up striker on £170k pw?

    Ask yourself why Bayern dont have a £50m back up striker on £170k pw?

    Ask yourself why PSG dont have a £50m back up striker on £170k pw?

  51. TR7

    Gambon, we can get 40M from selling that lot.

    Welbeck -In England world cup squad, 20M easy
    Perez – 10M
    Iwobi – 8 to 10M,Nigerian international
    The rest of them at least for 3-4M.

    If we find a good quality winger in the market for even say 50M , we can buy. It’s not that all the payment is made upfront.

  52. Dissenter

    No one is claiming ITK status as to what the club will do, regarding Laca
    All some are asking is in the face of a limited budget, would selling him to free up funds to in vest in areas where we are completely lacking make sense?
    Laca + Welbeck is at least 75 million
    Add that 75 million to the reported 50 [? 70] million and we have the chance to do a mini rebuild, rather than tinker on the edges.

  53. China

    If people think it’s possible to find a really great and young auba backup who can come in and score as regularly as laca in half the wages then I don’t see why it’s impossible to find a similarly effective young winger who can deliver the goods on a lower salary

  54. salpardisenyc

    If we were to sell Lacazette, Welbeck, Perez taking what we could get for Campbell, Asono and Akpom.

    Turn that into: Martial with young upstart CF like El Haddadi.

    Why not.

  55. Daz

    If we were to sell lacazette we would make a loss on the initial amount we payed then with a replacement thats good enough you won’t have much left over for this 50m winger people want, when all is said and done you would have downgraded on lacazette just to put approx 15m towards the winger makes no sense to me just sell welbeck and perez

  56. gambon


    Because we need a good up and coming forward,

    However we need a world class wide player. We need a Hazard/Sane/Sterling level player who can take players on, create and score goals.

    Obviously some players would rather shoe-horn Lacazette on the wing because they like his beard, or think he has a nice smile.

  57. Dissenter

    If Lava had ambition, he would be agitating to move.
    He shouldn’t be a back-up striker at the age of 27 year.
    I rate him as lot. He’s too good and cost too much for that.
    Giroud [I’ll take all the arrows in the world] would have been that perfect back-up striker since he plays in a distinctively different way.

  58. Dissenter

    “If we were to sell lacazette we would make a loss on the initial amount we payed then with a replacement thats good enough you won’t have much left over for this 50m winger people want, when all is said and done you would have downgraded on lacazette just to put approx 15m towards the winger makes no sense to me just sell welbeck and perez”

    Not remotely true
    His current value on is 60 million euros

    Keep him for one more season ass back-up and then see if his transfer value doesn’t plummet.

  59. Dissenter

    I understand the reluctance to even consider the prospect of losing Laca.
    Wenger conditioned us fans to selling off the best players and not replace them.
    What if the money was re-spent immediately to improve the squad?

  60. Rambo Ramsey

    There’s new winds a blowing at Colney. No player is going to try and push his way out just yet. At the same time, Emery isn’t going to try and rock the boat too much. Don’t expect big sales like Laca until next summer.

  61. China

    Haha his beard is well maintained. No arguments there!

    Anyway seems like quite a few of us agree that giroud + auba would’ve been a highly practical and financially suitable choice.

    Even though I’m comfortable with auba and laca, I think it was typically arsenal to mismanage the situation and end up this way. I really don’t know why we even sold giroud. He was distinctly different and clearly useful.

    But anyway, as I said. We’re here now and I’m happy with 2 good strikers even if they are pricey.

  62. Receding Hairline

    “If people think it’s possible to find a really great and young auba backup who can come in and score as regularly as laca in half the wages then I don’t see why it’s impossible to find a similarly effective young winger who can deliver the goods on a lower salary”

    Because they all want Lacazette sold..they want him sold because they believe he is too expensive to be on the bench, some say he is too good to be on the bench. No one has asked Emery his views on this anyway,

  63. Kay

    The favorable setup with the current players we have, could be a 4-2-2-2 with a new DM, CB, RB and GK.

    I somehow think Emery would give at least a year before making changes on the attack.

  64. raptora

    If we are willing to sell Laca and it indeed happens for over 40m pounds I’d be ecstatic. If the 40m+ are all we need for buying a Dembele, Bale, Douglas Costa or even Pulisic, then give me that dough ASAP!!!

  65. Graham62


    You’re confusing me.

    I quoted your own perceptions.

    I was highlighting that Wenger’s reign, specifically the past ten years, helped to breed negativity and frustration amongst supporters. Many opinions were born out of anger and resentment towards Wenger and his methods and the divide in opinions amongst our own fanbase highlighted this even further.

    As for Lacazette, I don’t see him as being back up to Auba. On the contrary, they complement one another and I am convinced Emery will see it this way.

  66. Guns of Brixton

    Nothing wrong with having both Auba + laca.

    Even if we the only squad to have 2 CFs where the other isnt a “young upcoming” CF.

    But a tab on it till after auba hits over 32 and kick on.

    We DESPERATELY need a flipping Winger

  67. Carts

    “Maxi Gomez is 21 and has scored 17 goals in 26 games for Celta Vigo. The lad is a prospect“

    To be fair, that Spanish kid who signed for Everton then got loaned back to Sevilla didn’t work out well.

    So yeah, although those number aren’t bad, I would get too sexed up about the prospect of them making the step up

  68. Guns of Brixton


    Chelsea join the GK search now.

    They selling Courtois. ( Real Madrid most likely. His wife and kids live in Madrid)

  69. qna

    Selling Laca is completely dependent on who we could bring in. He is not a player that we simply must sell. If Laca is the good player that you all say he is then he must have appreciated from the £52m we paid for him. I just think he is the perfect player to flip and improve our overall position. I don’t think we lose much by replacing him in the squad by Balotelli either. There is an equal chance that Balotelli is the better player. He did quite well last season.

    If it were possible I would do:
    Out: Elneny (£15m), Lacazette (£60m), Iwobi (£15m)
    In: Balotelli (free), Rabiot (£40m), Winger (£50m)

    This doesn’t even touch our transfer budget. Adjust the numbers above as needed, but you get the point.

  70. Pierre

    “Anyway seems like quite a few of us agree that giroud + auba would’ve been a highly practical and financially suitable choice.”

    Not me.

    Though giroud is a decent player, he was never suited to Arsenal’s style of play…too slow.
    I find it very difficult to understand why any Arsenal supporter would want to return to our slow, ponderous football that Giroud was part of.

    Personally, unless Ramsey has a brainstorm and realises that football is a team game, then I would sell him.. There are many better footballers/midfielders of better quality and game understanding than Ramsey.
    Either play him further upfield, where his strengths lie, or sell him, he should never be part of a 2 man midfield.

  71. E54_


    Wenger is out of a job!

    Madrid have no manager!

    Finally he and all his supporters can be justified. They say the biggest clubs in the world wanted him, Madrid are one of the biggest so that statement included them. We were lucky he was so loyal.

    OMG WTF and SMH you really think Madrid will hire Wenger your deluded 😉

  72. HighburyLegend

    Most shocking fact so far : Cech with the N° 1 shirt.
    A very big joke and a f*cking disgrace (©Drogba2009)

  73. HighburyLegend

    “If it were possible I would do:
    Out: Elneny (£15m), Lacazette (£60m), Iwobi (£15m)
    In: Balotelli (free), Rabiot (£40m), Winger (£50m)”

    Who is “winger” ?? I know Winger the rock band, but…

    Agree with you on Elnino and Iwobi, not on Laca.

  74. China

    We don’t need to play slow and ponderous play just because giroud is in the squad and when you’re playing against a team you can’t break down and desperately need a goal late on, he’s a really effective battering ram against tired defenses, especially if you start hurling crosses in

    The whole point of giroud is that he’s the opposite of what we currently have. It’s that variation that makes him useful

  75. gonsterous

    I did say a while back, most of the le grovers who were praising the lacas purchase would be the first to have him thrown out. Most posters here are always short term memory patients.. laca is a great player who proved a lot of people wrong here and now they again want to sell him. we’ll have the same debate in January with posters asking to sell him..

  76. China

    Perez, welbeck, loanee kids and Iwobi and you’ve freed up a solid 50+ mil for that finger licking good winger without meaningfully even hurting the squad quality

    Sell da players Ivan!

  77. gambon

    Literally no-one wants Laca to be sold because hes not a good player.

    In fact not a single person “wants” Laca sold.

    However, our budget is apparently £70m, £45m is probably being spent on 2 x CBs.

    That leaves £25m, with numerous holes to fill (GK, CM, Winger).

    I get that you have a thing for short, bearded black men, but how do you propose we buy these 3 players for an average of £8.3m each?

  78. Ishola70

    Auba and Lacazette have actually shown they can play together. They have actually shown some chemistry on the pitch.

    And it doesn’t have to be the case that each has a set position each match. It doesn’t even have to be that each has a set position during and throughout a match.

    So those that state it is no good having a player that is worth such and such on the bench or eating up so much money or it is wasteful to have Auba on the wing and say these things as if they are set in stone may be a little off the mark.

  79. Daz

    We have four competitions there will be plenty of game time for lacazette, i dont want to see a welbeck level CF filling in for Auba in all those games and i dont want Auba getting burnt out either. We seem to be getting the defensive signings on the cheap so with some sales of squad players we should be able to stretch to a top winger if thats even in the clubs plans

  80. raptora

    “laca is a great player who proved a lot of people wrong here”

    LOLz. If you say so.

    Never wanted to buy him and with his performances he proved me right.

    Question: Why is everyone talking about Laca being moved and not Auba? If posters are like you said “short term memory patients” then they should be banging on the door to sell Auba, no? Why are they not doing that?

    Answer: Because, while both strikers are pretty similar in their play, one of them is visibly better than the other one. And any person with good eyes can see it.

  81. Ishola70

    And as Dax has just said Arsenal will be involved in a lot of matches.

    Means one can rest and the other starts.

    Remember Arsenal are in Europa League again. Entails a lot of matches.

    Yet another reason why ditching Lacazette is silly.

    And there was a poster here that stated Balotelli is a better bet regardless of wage and cost of player. For shame for such a statement. For shame.

  82. gambon

    Sokratis £15m
    Soyuncu £30m (sell Mustafi £20m)
    Lichsteiner (Sell Jenkinson £2m)

    So thats £23m spent, and we still would need to buy at least

    1 x DM
    1 x Winger (Sell Welbeck and Perez for £30m)
    1 x GK (Sell Ospina £5m)

    In order to have a remotely competitive squad.

    So the challenge is to find 3 top class, firxt XI players that improve us for £80m or so.

  83. raptora

    Tbh I’m not so sure about Ligue 1 anymore. Lacazette banging in so many goals on the regular over there made me think their teams don’t put to much emphasis on defending? If that’s not the case then surely Florian Thauvin could be worth a punt, no? 25 goals + 13 assists + 13 MotM awards. Second strong season in a row.

  84. Guns of SF

    I think Laca deserves another year with Auba. They did have some chemistry and I would say that Auba is actually helping Laca… He is a threat that allows Laca more space and room since he always is drawing attention of the defense.

    Ishola is right, they dont have the play the exact same each match. Heaven forbid!

    I more worried about our DM. I like the kid Torreira…. high energy for sure. Could compliment Granit legs in CM

    DM is where its at. We get that right the other pieces fall into place

  85. gonsterous

    I can see why someone wouldn’t want ballotelli, and I wouldn’t want him either. but to say that he scores boring goals is one of the worst reasons not to buy him..
    scoring a tap in and a bales over head goal still counts as one goal.

  86. Ishola70

    There is no real zip in his play gonsterous Balotelli that is,

    His bland goals just imprint that.

    You see players score tap-ins but there is a buzz about them. They show good or clever movement before the tap-in.

    Not with Balotelli’s goals season just gone. Bland in the extreme.

    No quality about them at all.

  87. gambon


    No, I pretty much do know, as unlike you I know what i’m talking about.

    Go back to wanking over your Lacazette photo album…

  88. Guns of Brixton

    Dont get petty.

    We had a nice flow going as well.

    The chakras were all lining up and sheet

  89. Bamford10


    “Lacazette is most certainly a starting eleven player.”

    This is a bit disingenuous, as you go on to say that either Auba or Laca is the starting CF or that they could play together. Well, it’s one or the other: either one starts and the other sits, or they start together.

    You and Graham and a few others here think they can play in the XI together. For me this makes no sense — as Auba should not be deployed wide — unless we are planning to play two through the center, something I don’t think Emery is planning to do.

    Thus the only way for them to “play together” — as some of you would like — is for Auba to be shuttled wide, which would be a huge mistake, IMO.

    Therefore, for me, Lacazette is a back-up CF to Aubameyang. As such he may in fact play a valuable role for us. Maybe we need a 50m back-up CF.

    Except that I’m not convinced that we do, and if we could use that money to finance the signing of a genuine starting XI player — a CDM, a wide right, a CB — then I would prefer to do that.

  90. TR7


    ‘Tbh I’m not so sure about Ligue 1 anymore. Lacazette banging in so many goals on the regular over there made me think their teams don’t put to much emphasis on defending? ‘

    Lol you go to any extent to discredit Laca.

    Hazard, Kante and Mahrez – 3 of the last 4 premiere league player of the year are imports from French league.

  91. Guns of SF

    The last few games of the season Laca played well. His movement was clearly better than before the knee surgery…. If that was a reason for his poor performance then he sure corrected that problem.

    Laca is not Auba. However, both of them on the pitch adds a better attacking dimension- both sides of the pitch are better used.

  92. alan B'stard M P

    quote ” Are we passing on Fabinho because we have more expensive fish to fry? Who knows. ”

    Now don’t be silly.

    All we need is a couple of decent defenders, plus Vardy and Mahrez. Ditch Welbeck