We’ve moved into the final stretch of the hiring process.
Well, that’s what people will have you believe.
The internet at this point is a massive guessing game. Everyone wants to be the person that announced #WelcomeMikel. I’d take all of the nonsense with a very large pinch of salt. It’s clear that now there’s a favourite, and people are just looking at that and making educated guesses so they can say they landed there first.
I’ve no doubt Mikel is front of the queue at this time, but I have my doubts that he’s signed, sealed and delivered.
We’ll see though, the embarrassing desperation people have to be seen as ITK is quite incredible.
One article that really did get my back up was the one doing the rounds on Goal.com. Again, clearly there aren’t many journo’s who have an inside line on this deal, the club are playing their cards close to their chest on this one, so that either leads to people saying little or simply making it up.
Goal went all in, stating that not only had Arteta been hired, he was actively culling coaching staff and was responsible for the firing Head of Medical Services, Colin Lewin. Because he didn’t like him!
I went on a bit of rampage about this story yesterday, and they’ve changed it. It was really sloppy journalism that was sensationalising a manager who likely hasn’t even signed on yet.
Just to be clear. The new manager will have ZERO say on the clubs choice for medical services unless we’re hiring an elite manager with the qualifications to have a valid opinion. The club did not get rid of an all-conquering manager, simply to replace him with another all-conquering manager. Outside that, does anyone really think someone desperate for a new role would be making demands to sack a well-liked club medic as his first port of call, based on feelings? It’d not only be daft, it’d be incredibly petty.
The person in charge of firing anyone in the performance arm of the business is Darren Burgess. I’m not sure of exact reporting lines, but my guess is he’ll be feeding directing into Raul. The Spanish Sporting Director type figure will be in control of that side of the club. He’ll likely be responsible for hiring in the coaches. Our new manager will likely have a selection of names he can bring with him, but the team will be small. The club need to own the setup, so when a manager goes, he doesn’t bring the whole backroom staff with him.
Sven will also have his own group of staff that report into him, I’d guess mostly scouts and maybe some data analysts.
The club is moving towards a new model, and that’s been clear from last October. If you’ve been reading the blog for a while, we’ve been writing about how proper clubs build out their infrastructures and we appear to be following a more modern path of decentralised power.
I find it really poor that when your one job is writing about football, you still can’t get it right.
One person who does get it right is David Ornstein, he wrote yesterday that the deal isn’t done yet, and there’s still an outside hope that Allegri is in the running. He also made note that all candidates will have been told of the transfer targets, and have agreed with them. As someone pointed out, when you’re looking for a new job, you’re unlikely to say, ‘fuck that mate, those names are shite.’ The rumours are we’re looking at a centre back, a holding midfielder and a world class keeper.
Another agenda item I want to quash is that the club knew they were going to hire Arteta, they’ve just gone through the process of speaking to people for the sake of it. Firstly, we haven’t hired anyone yet, secondly, I think that’s another guess from people disappointed in the prospect of hiring in a manager they know nothing about.
Remember this, United have hired 3 exceptionally experienced manager. Two out and out winners. One being Jose Mourinho. They’ve spent £600m and they’re still shite, finishing a mile off the top of the table, playing garbage football, getting knocked out of the CL by Ben Yedder, not knowing how to play with Sanchez, Lukaku and Paul Pogba. A ‘big name’ is a feeling of security, it’s not a guarantee off success.
Anyway, a fairly short post today. I’ll be back tomorrow, in the meantime, just remember, 16-year-olds on Twitter do not have a direct line into the club, insiders have been so off the mark the whole way through this process, so take their exclusives with a pinch of bollocks, and don’t believe anything that says people are already being fired by a manager who hasn’t been signed.
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Frees will still cost us, with the increased salary amortised over the next few years. If these players are not Arsenal quality then we will simply be making problems for ourselves further down the line.
We will have to accept a couple of years at least treading water as sustainable development to the squad is made, which includes bargain purchases of course but also bringing through some of the kids, sink or swim.
@Freddie Ljungberg
Yeah i see what your saying but surely campbell perez jenks and welbeck can raise enough funds to cover the 75 million outlay there and as jim lahey said meyer on a free would be a good bit of business. Ramsey may yet leave so thay should give us adequate funds to replace him. Or maybe sign a winger and get meyer in that position?
All seems a bit fantasy football at the moment hardly unrealistic but its exciting times now wenger has left only way is be up now isnt it … surely ?
Max Meyer is going to Hoffenheim apparently. It’s a start, but it still leaves us with the mistake machine that is Mustafi, or the inexperienced Chambers next to Sokratis. It also leaves us with Xhaka in Dm, Seri is a good player but he’s no Dm. I just think we can and need to do more to have any hope of catching up. City is out of reach atm, Liverpool will be too if they sign Fekir in addition to Keita. Chelsea, Man U and Spurs are already ahead of us and they are not going to sit around all… Read more »
Arsenal winning only one game against top 6 opposition shows us to be the Court Jesters of football
Yes, it is likely CL qualification is off the table for us for 2-3 years at least. I can see Spuds falling away but not Chelsea. Man U, Liverpool and City are in a different planet and the inequality is sustainable.
A cardboard cut out of Xhaka would be more effective than the man himself in the middle of the pitch.
Arsenal’s Home Record Against Top Six
Beat Spurs 2-0
Drew 2-2 with Chelsea
Got out of jail drawing 3-3 after being 3-1 down to Liverpool .
Smashed 3-1 by Man Utd
Mauled 3-0 by Man City.
@Moray – I felt Xhaka played a lot better in the Europa League this year than he did in the PL, maybe the slower game on the continent better suits his style of play. He seems to fall apart under a press and his feet aren’t quick enough to get himself out of a tight situation (like Santi could). He is not a DM so I feel we (rightly or wrongly) try to place those DM attributes onto him and then chastise him when he doesn’t live up to what we expected. Is he a bad footballer? Not at all.… Read more »
Arsenal Away Record Against Top Six
Crushed 4-0 by Liverpool
Stale 0-0 draw with Chelsea
Lost 3-1 to Man City.
Lost 1-0 to Spurs
Lost 2-1 to Man Utd
Arsenal 5 points out of a maximum of 30 points against top 6 . Lol
Moray “Yes, it is likely CL qualification is off the table for us for 2-3 years at least” That is a horrible thought and realisation. I remember when Arsenal first fell out of CL and everyone was saying that the club must get back in the following season. Well that didn’t materialise and years can add up. Though of course Arsenal will have chances to get back in CL via Europa League. Could be the case Arsenal become very familiar with Europa League. This is said because the competition looks tough now. Even a stale Man Utd finished nearly 20… Read more »
Red
That’s all in the past
Past gone lad new era
Afraid to say
JFK gone
Marlyn gone
Levi’s gone
John lennon gone
George Harrison gone
Dancing frog gone twist gone
Arsene Wenger gone
Ya get it
When new man fail them you can coat off staticttics. Until then new person deserves a clean slate
I have to say that I’m underwhelmed by the prowess of Mislintat.
All he’s done is go back to Dortmund to clear-out their deadwood and the players that have disciplinary problems. All the players he brings in come at above market rates .
Why are we set to pay £18 million for a 29 year old defender who has ONE year left on his contract. are they saying he’s worth £50 million on a full contract?
Why is our net seem to be cast on the Bundesliga and Dormund in particypa
@Dissenter –
“All he’s done is go back to Dortmund to clear-out their deadwood”
Are you calling Aubameyang deadwood…?
If we get the Wenger clone it will be more of the same.
Jim
Nope. Auba is no deadwood.
I said all he’s done is to go back to Dortmund to clear out deadwood or players with disciplinary problems..
Auba had some displinary problems with BVBm when we bought him.
@Dissenter
“I said all he’s done is to go back to Dortmund to clear out deadwood or players with disciplinary problems..”
Ah got ya!
Yeah, we’re in a tough spot, no question. We only have about 50m in disposable cash (barring sales); City, United, Chelsea and Liverpool will all be strong going forward; and we need CL football for the revenues.
Therefore we need a number of things including: one, a strong manager who will bring organization, discipline and defensive solidity into the side; two, smart signings, some of which will need to be relatively low-cost; three, sales of certain players, including possibly Xhaka, Ramsey, Lacazette, Ospina.
As for players to bring in, we need practical, hard-working, no-nonsense types.
Red
Your “Wenger clone” line re Arteta is dumb. Maybe it would make sense to call hm a “Guardiola clone” — though this would be no insult — but there is little to no reason to think he’s a “Wenger clone”. Troll better, please.
Who said: “I have always found the tactical side of the game fascinating”
“My goal is to knit together a title winning side that stays true to my long held beliefs of playing the game with passion and commitment”
Answer: I said it, those are my words.
Anyone can talk a good game and bullshit his way into the Arsenal role……
No to Wenger Clone…….
@Jim lahey …… Jim LaheyMay 20, 2018 14:08:16 @Pierre – “What players are those then Jim …..”Manuel Neuer for one. Spot on I remembered that too and there’s been other occasions to, where teams have looked really excited & happy at drawing us. Answered both points very well. On Arteta , not my first choice, but if it happens then it’s a gamble that may or may not pay off. Sacking Wenger even if it was done via the long route. Which if you think about it logically, Gazidis probably had to say’ we looked & Wenger was the best… Read more »
Bamford
Actually, the only point I hear people making about Arteta is that he’s learned enough from Guardiola in 2 years to be a Guardiola wannabe.
Arteta has cited his inspiration to be Guardiola and Wenger. I don’t thing Redtruth was that far from reality to be honest.
I dislike that often used line of “what do you have to lose by signing Arteta” and “sack him after two years”.
Why do we have to wait for two years to decide if he’s good enough?
Daniel Levi would fire an incompetent manager in 12 weeks.
We don’t have two years to waste, not when all the teams around us are breaking away.
Dissenter
No, he has said he likes Wenger’s emphasis upon attacking, entertaining football. However, he’d have to be a fucking moron — he’s not — to have missed the fact that Wenger’s inattention to organization, shape, discipline and defense was a disaster. Guardiola’s sides may play beautiful football, but they are massively disciplined and well-organized. That is undoubtedly what Arteta would be trying to replicate, though he will have to do so with less quality, so he’ll have to be more practical.
But no, “Wenger clone” makes no sense, as Guardiola is 10,000 miles away from Wenger.
Tippy tappy football is stale
It’s back to old school of mixing it up and letting the opposition know you’re taking no prisoners.
Bamford I don’t think it’s a deviation from reality for anyone to attach ANY label on Arteta currently. No one knows what he will be like, not even you. The sample size you’re drawing an inference from is ZERO. We don’t know if he will up like Wenger, Guardiola-like, lump the ball like big Sam or be naive like Roberto Martinez. He’s an clean slate at the moment. Is he going to adapt his tactics to the players he has right now because Arsenal are not going to spend massively like City did to get Guardiola the tools to play… Read more »
My feeling is that auba is going to be a very very good player for us.
We don’t know exactly how he and laca are going to be used yet, but I suspect Auba is gonna score a tonne if tap ins provided we give him enough whipped low crosses (in doubt because we have zero wingers mind lol)
We will see what Arteta is about in regards to his action or lack of in relation to the midfield. Xhaka was a Wenger signing and we heard terms such as Regista. If Arteta continues to play Xhaka the Regista with no proper sound defensive midfielder alongside him then we know we will see more of the same in regards defensive frailty. Player linked Serri is not going to be of great use defensively. It doesn’t matter how much pressing you do and Xhaka is awful at pressing btw if you have defensively weak midfielders you are going to suffer.… Read more »
Dissenter
That’s silly. He’s been studying Guardiola and Guardiola’s system for two years. While it is impossible to say whether he will be any good as a manager, it is not impossible to say what kind of approach he’ll likely take. He will obviously try to apply what he has learned from Guardiola to the realities at Arsenal. This is not some huge mystery.
Bamford
If Arteta doesn’t cull Xhaka from the team or even bring in a sound defensive midfielder to play alongside him then what you say about Arteta?
Xhaka in the team signals defensive neglect. Simple as that.
Xhaka should be sold. As should Mustafi, I think. As should Ramsey — unless we’re selling Ozil, in which case I’d make Ramsey the CAM with a Doucoure and another no-nonsense holding CM behind him.
So Bamford if Arteta keeps the midfield as it is with Xhaka the deepest midfielder and just brings in Serri then you will have doubts about Arteta right from the off?
Ishola
I agree. First thing I’d do is sell Xhaka. He is in no way the kind of player we need if we want to compete for top four. We need athleticism, mobility, ball-winning, quickness of feet and mind.
Rather than dominating possession, I think we’ll need to defend and attack quickly. That will be a change, obviously, from Guardiola’s approach, but Arteta will have to be practical and flexible. I can’t imagine he won’t see the need for this. Dominating possession, slow build up play is not going to do it, especially with Auba up top.
6 days till the big one. haven’t been this excited for a CL final since we were last in It.
Ok Bamford.
We will see what Arteta does about the midfield.
I think you have answered the question that if the Xhaka problem is not resolved then you will have doubts about Arteta from the get go.
Gonsterous
I’m interested in that match, but right now I am thinking only about our managerial appointment and our summer window activity. Really big summer for Arsenal Football Club.
Red
I’m not sure your suggestion of having Dennis bergkamp as head coach would not work.
Flying
Doesn’t come across as a confidant coach who will progress others
He’s been on the record as saying football is not a passion for him
It’s just a job
Goon
The big one is Fulham v villa to me
Ishola
Yeah, I probably would. And one thing going against Arteta is that he may see a little of himself in Xhaka. There are a few similarities there, I think.
Arteta must be ruthless, though. Xhaka needs to go. But as I say, Ramsey probably has to go as well.
Bamford10
“Yeah, I probably would. And one thing going against Arteta is that he may see a little of himself in Xhaka. There are a few similarities there, I think.”
Yes I was thinking the same. Sees the player in the same mould as himself.
Arteta’s head be on it though if he carries on with Xhaka as the last midfielder.
The team will continue to suffer defensively.
If he sorts that out then I will have greater hopes for him going forward.
bamford
really ? all this arteta talk excites you ? boy, you just know arsenal will find a way to shoot themselves in the foot..
You know it’s pretty weird that Standard Chartered aren’t jumping on the liverpool hype train in China right now considering their CL run and that they have salah
I work for their technology department and they’ve recently got didier drogba to be a mascot for some of their African banking operations, which is a good shout – but considering they’re liverpool’s Main sponsor they’re missing a trick by not pushing their ties more right now
RSPC A
can’t be bothered mate, those same teams will be back in the championship in a year or two. once great teams. it’s like watching leeds utd play…
Bamford
Actually it’s a real mystery because you have no way of ascertaining what you’re claiming.
Arteta can study Guardiola for a 1000 years. It’s only when he starts to practice that he will define himself.
Guardiola was a disciple of Johan Cruyff’s total football. He studied it but redefined it in his own image. You have no where of knowing where people will end up at.
“Why do we have to wait for two years to decide if he’s good enough?
Daniel Levi would fire an incompetent manager in 12 weeks.”
12 weeks? Clough got 44 days at Leeds!
All this penny pinching talk and the funny thing is that we have a billionaire owner
How we forget that so easily
We don’t need an owner who is a billionaire
It means nada
Elmo
““Why do we have to wait for two years to decide if he’s good enough?
Daniel Levi would fire an incompetent manager in 12 weeks.”
Do you mean THE Daniel Levy who has won one league cup in 17 years whilst being chairman…
Goon
I like watching Fulham play they play good football : pass n move
Good manager who would do well at arsenal
Let’s be honest.. No one has a clue if Arteta or whoever will be successful…
Did any one think George Graham or Arsene Wenger were the right men for the club at the time and they exceeded all expectations.
Arteta will probably be announced tomorrow,Gazidis has got balls of steel to make such HUGE decision considering how delicately placed the club is
you get the feeling this decision is going to make or Mar us in the next few years,hope Arteta has got what it takes for all our sake.
Where I work, we are evaluated on 2 dimensions – potential and performance. Potential is the evaluation of the upper boundary of how high in the organization a person can go; performance is what they have accomplished.
For Arteta, he shows signs of high potential, but absolutely no basis for judgement on performance. Very risky appointment. But if no experienced candidates with more performance data points are interested or available, then we have to go with it. Nagelsmann would be off the chart on both potential and performance.
China
mkhitarayan is very good at putting in low whipped crosses with either foot.
You do not need out and out wingers for that sort of delivery as generally the low whipped cross are from inside the box, similar to debruyne’s and silva ‘s delivery for city.
Özil often gets in those positions but his delivery is more of a pull back than hard across the goal.
Pierre, Football is quite different these days. Arteta could turn out to be the second coming of Ferguson but Arsenal find themselves in a tough position. There are 2-3 clubs that can easily outspend us and 2 clubs who have built up strong and high performing squads that shit on ours. Arteta is a risk that we really might not be able to afford if it means 4-5 years out of the Champions League. Fortunately the third tier in English Football is really shit so we just need to find a way to improve by two places. Having said that,… Read more »
‘Having said that, maybe we become a mid table club and our expectations lower to accommodate that fact. This seems to be what Wenger’s legacy will be.’
very shallow and myopic comment.
Without spending on new players who are better we can expect the same with. Arteta.
Maybe he will obtain 5th but to crack top 5 will take an overhaul
I think that 150m this summer is the minimal needed
2 cb
Winger
Dm
Keeper
5 players at about 30m each roughly
Sure we must sell to get the cash but we need about half a new starting 11
I have even mentioned our bench needs a serious adjusting too
Moray “Having said that, maybe we become a mid table club and our expectations lower to accommodate that fact. This seems to be what Wenger’s legacy will bE” Actually i really think most of our fans have settled into the mindset of a mid table club. They’ve readjusted their expectations accordingly, the ones who push back are seen as disloyal plastic fans who “hate” the club. I’ve been amazed at how people seem to cuddle up to the notion of a novice taking over. I’m shocked that people are will to kowtow to Gazidis to take a needlessly reckless decision,… Read more »
We need to bankroll the Wenger clone if we are to accomodate him otherwise install an experienced manager who can manage on a shoestring budget.
Dissenter no offense,have you set foot on highbury or the Emirates stadium before?
“Actually i really think most of our fans have settled into the mindset of a mid table club. ”
speak for yourself you plonker,anything short of a title challenge in the next 2years should see slimy prick Gazidis and Arteta out the door
Pierre
I wasn’t the one who mentioned Levy. I’m of the opinion that he’s a mug and that’s he’s made countless managerial appointment mistakes in the past.
My point was that even 12 weeks before a sacking isn’t exceptional, when the likes of league winner Clough were gone in weeks, and that was nearly 50 years ago.
Victorious
No need to step inside the Emirates to know you’re a tit.
Would love to know why we now cant compete financially with Liverpool
So thats City, Pool, Chelsea and Utd
So looks like our trophies are gonna be more FA cups and the odd shot at the Europa League
I would be looking for a manager who has proven rebuild experience with potential players – not a guy who has no experience and by the looks of things, very little money to spend
Victorious
“speak for yourself you plonker,anything short of a title challenge in the next 2years should see slimy prick Gazidis and Arteta out the door”
14 years without a title challenge and not a word of dissent lol
Elmo
Sorry about that re levy …dissenter first made the original comment
I’m sure our Board are stupid enough to offer Arteta a 10 year contract or something like that.
It doesn’t look as though we have many alternatives on the table so he has them by the balls anyway.
Redtroll
what would be your set target for the new manager in the next 2years?
Arteta C.V
Manager:
Clubs: None
Honours: None
Enough said…..
With a strike force of aubamayang, mhkitarean,lacazette and ozil, that tells me we are not a mid table side ….
a solid disciplined midfield will do wonders for the side ….lets see what the new manager brings .
Next season winning the Europa league is a given.
Top 4 is bare minimum.and winning either Domestic Cups is achievable.
Redtruth
Arteta C.V. Pochettino CV
Manager:Clubs: None. Clubs: Spurs,Southampton etc
Honours: None. None
Enough said….. Enough said
Season two:
Challenging for the Premier league title.
Competing in the Chsmpions league.
Winning either Domestic trophies.
Season three:
Winning the Premier league
Winning the Champions league
Winning both Domestic Cups.
Red, such lofty ambitions you’ve got there for the new man,hold similar view myself,wondered why you then ridiculed my comment directed to dissenter
Gary Neville talks a good game tried his hand in management and was a nightmare.
Enough said……
All the people being so negative on here need to stop take a deep breath and think for a moment. Why would a club with mid table ambitions hire one of the most rated head scouts on the planet? Why would a club with mid table ambitions hire Barca’s DOF? Why would either of these guys join a club whose ambitions only extend to mid table? After sacking a manager for a combination of missing out on CL football for a second season and the number of empty seats take a risk (and Arteta is a huge risk) unless they… Read more »
anything short of a title challenge in the next 2years should see slimy prick Gazidis and Arteta out the door
14 years without a title challenge and you were more than happy to continue with Wenger Vic. Practically crying when he left
Victorious
Marble is a troll – he’s been banned on here 2 or 3 times already under different names.
Why Pedro keeps letting him back on baffles me – it’s not as if he has radical opinions all he does is slag the club, player’s, fans and other posters on here. I haven’t seen him suggest who he’d like to replace Wenger.
How is pochettino rated a top manager and over hyped to high heavens whilst have ZERO trophy in the cabinet will continue to puzzle me.
Victorious
Because the Spud’s are the media darlings – all ways have been. According to the media he’s going to give it one more season and if he can’t win something move on. If I was a Spud I’d be shitting myself huge new stadium debt and a chairman whose previous recruitment record is akin to inviting the KKK to a civil rights march.
Good as Pep is he would have had a problem at Man C if he had no money to spend on signings, and even more of a problem if he had to sell to buy. Of course, he would never have taken on the job. Wenger did, at Arsenal – with the results we see. A club with a wishy-washy squad and declining revenue. If anything the situation is worse. Back then there was only Man U and an emerging Chelsea to worry about. Now there are five Clubs of superior quality, The good news is that Wenger is gone.… Read more »
After sacking a manager for a combination of missing out on CL football for a second season and the number of empty seats take a risk (and Arteta is a huge risk) unless they genuinely thought there was something to him? You have faith in them? The same guys who have been taking risks year in year out with Wenger. We’ve been wasting years with Arsene what’s another one or two with Arteta. We’re clearly not a serious club. A serious club doesn’t set a budget of 50 million particularly after two seasons out of the champions league. A serious… Read more »
How is pochettino rated a top manager and over hyped to high heavens whilst have ZERO trophy in the cabinet will continue to puzzle me.
Cause he’s made a shit team and made them somewhat relevant. Consistent champions league is a big deal for a club like that
Vi ctorius
“Dissenter no offense,have you set foot on highbury or the Emirates stadium before?”
Yes, I shared a season ticked for two season, 2001-2002, 2002-2003 at Highbury
I’ve visited the Emirates at least 20 times, a lot considering that I’ve lived on another continent since 2005.
Have you even been to Highbury or the Emirates, no offense.
Pierre Are you really that naive? Other managers will not publicly state that Arsenal are a laughing stock, but I can guarantee that behind closed doors they would have been saying what we’ve all been saying for several years. The only manager to voice such opinions, has been Mourinho. Even Ferguson, in his own way, knew how to mock Wenger. The repetitive nature of Arsenal’s failings have been there for all to see. Our only failing, as supporters, was to allow Wenger to keep plodding along for so long. No other fanbase of a club, in a similar position to… Read more »
Marko But that’s where you are wrong – Wenger wasn’t seen as a risk he delivered CL football on a relatively small spend in fact when he started to spend more the team actually dropped out of the top 4. Arteta is a huge risk – ask yourself a question why not go for someone who is a safer easier bet? If Arteta comes in and isn’t doing the business the empty seats will be back by Christmas and they will then see a huge drop off in ST renewals, the waiting list is down by 30,000 in the last… Read more »
Marc
You’re being disingenuous when you pretend like you can’t fantom why anyone would be convinced that we are set to point a manager with zero epperience as a head coach.
Will it go well, I don’t know and neither do you.
We can hope and pray it does go well, but it is still a very risky move, a choice that we are not being forced to take.
At least acknowledge that there’s a plausible reason for any one else to be concerned.
Stop pretending that it’s inappropriate for people to express skepticism.
A big club with a big club mentality will be using a “nuclear option” to return back to being competitite again.
The fact that are still throwing the dice at a time like this is concerning.
Marko
I wouldn’t say the Spud’s are relevant, they get an easy ride in the media. Arsenal had X years without a trophy rammed down our throats for years. The Spud’s have not only gone longer now but the trophy they did last win was the League Cup – something which if we’d have won this season you’d be writing off as not relevant.
Dissenter
I’ve made it clear that my choice was Allegri and every time I mentioned Arteta I say it’s a risk (actually a huge one). I’ve no problem with people being concerned but the talk on here is like it’s the apocalypse. My point is not just about the manager it’s the other people we’ve brought in. These guy’s wouldn’t join to not look to compete, why won’t you acknowledge that the recruitment of Sanllehi and Sven are ambitious moves?
Marc I’ve got no faith in the likes of Ivan to make the right kind of decisions for Arsenal football club. Otherwise they wouldn’t be making yet another dumb decision with not appointing a “name” manager. We need stability not risks potential and unknown. Look I’m still holding out for an Allegri or Jardim. The hope is they’ll at least speak to Allegri who they’d clearly want or that they’d see the backlash the potential Arteta appointment would bring and get cold feet and look elsewhere. If he’s smart he’d hold off on the job because every defeat and every… Read more »
Dissenter
Bearing in mind your 20 visits were when Arsenal knew, with the quality of players at their disposal, what they were doing, I still bet you’ll be well up on @Victorious’s numerous visits to games that were boring, predictable and meaningless. Cheering along a regime and individual(Wenger) who really didn’t give a toss, doesn’t qualify you as a true supporter.
Gloating over visitations to Highbury and The Emirates is therefoe irrelevant.
Who’s the real mug here?
therefore
Marc I agree with you that Sanllehi and Mislintat were good appointments. I do think we have to wait to judge them on results though. Mislintat’s scouting hasn’t been exemplary yet [I know its early days]. We seem to be going back to the same well (Dortmund) and are paying market prices, there’s nothing special about his contributions yet. I mean we are being linked with an £18 million bid for a 29 year old defender with one year on his contract; that’s below average scouting. I’ll wait before I confer any special status to the new additions to the… Read more »
I wouldn’t say the Spud’s are relevant, they get an easy ride in the media. Arsenal had X years without a trophy rammed down our throats for years. The Spud’s have not only gone longer now but the trophy they did last win was the League Cup – something which if we’d have won this season you’d be writing off as not relevant. That’s because we’re a bigger club. We went from winning major titles to competing for major titles to not even being in the conversation when it comes to major titles. We’ve always had loftier ambitions and expectations… Read more »
Graham 62
Victorious asked me a specific question, I think to demean my fan-ship. I answered it as truthful as I can.
It was a question that I had to put to bed.
What exactly is your point?
Where was the gloating?
I hope people understand that Mislintat and Sanllehi’s job do not extend into the dressing room. They are going to steer clear of the coaches job.
It’s possible to be glad that we are making good moves to staff the football administration and still be skeptical about the choice of manager.
My point is not just about the manager it’s the other people we’ve brought in. These guy’s wouldn’t join to not look to compete, why won’t you acknowledge that the recruitment of Sanllehi and Sven are ambitious moves? Couldn’t you then argue that with these ambitious moves for Sven and Raul that it makes no sense to risk it all on a novice. It’s like we signed a good midfielder and defender but then put a chimpanzee in goal and hoped for the best. None of these arguments the last few days would be taking place if we weren’t about… Read more »
Yeah one has to wait and see what Sven and Raul does before thinking about them being successful. I’d give Sven more credit for Mavropanos than Auba everyone knows about Auba. And Raul going back in for Seri is hardly radical.
Dissenter I believe Graham was on your side there.
I think a great way to judge Sven and Raul this summer will be if they can manage to pull off a marquee signing and what type of signing would it be. Pull off an Oblak or a Gimenez or a Fabinho and that’s some way of convincing people how good you are at your job
Marko
What if the signings are players who you’re not familiar with? Will you give them a chance?
Why didn’t ManU sign Henry or Vieira or Pires? In fact when you look at what we paid for those players most PL teams could have afforded them. Maybe good scouting will be about signing these players before they’re considered marquee level.
Graham 62,
My bad, I got your post wrong. Take care.