courtesy @allthatchas
Atleti won the Europa League, Griezmann’s first major trophy… but it should have been ours!
I cannot believe we didn’t make 10 men at home count for more than nothing.
A lot of ‘why don’t we hire Diego’ after the game.
- He likes Atletico
- He likes Inter Milan
- He doesn’t speak English
I’m also not sure if you’d want that sort of football at Arsenal. I mean, some fan now seem impervious to the idea of bringing negative football back to Arsenal, I can’t help but think they’d be disappointed in that.
Not that I’d be against Simeone, I’m just not sure we need to go there.
One manager the club certainly like is Ralph Hassenhutl, the German went on the record last year to say he’d spoken to Arsenal about the potential opening at the club. That’s three Bundesliga managers we know the club were interested in, having spoken to Schmidt and Tuchel the same summer. Anyway, point of the thread is the Austrian has quit his position at Leipzig after two seasons with the Redbull outfit. He finished an incredible second last year, but couldn’t quite replicate that form this year, dropping down to 6th.
The 50-year-old found managerial fame taking German minnows Ingolstadt to the Bundesliga with a promotion, then keeping them in the league with a powerful defensive system that made up for having the worst attack in the league.
It’s unclear who rang the change bell, Rangnick or the manager. But the post-firing commentary was very positive from their Sporting Director.
“I would have liked to go into the new season with Ralph Hasenhuttl as our head coach,”
“I came to the realisation that another year together to begin with would have been sufficient. For Ralph however, there was no alternative to a premature contract extension. It was his explicit wish to terminate the contract and we accepted that with a heavy heart.
“In the past few season, Ralph has been incredibly impressive with a huge contribution and put in a lot of work. I don’t see Ralph as just a very talented coach but he’s also an incredible person. From the bottom of my heart, I wish him all the best for the future, both professionally and privately.”
Where Hassenhutl is planning on going next is a mystery. He reckons he turned down Bayern in January.
“The fact is that today I spoke with no other club, except that I once had a loose contact with Bayern Munich.
“I said that I cannot imagine that I am not a solution for Bayern, because I lack the international experience.”
The coach who compares himself Klopp when it comes to philosophy made an odd choice considering he’s 50 years old, but who am I to judge? That’s why I wonder if he’d move to Arsenal?
Anyway, he fits our brief from a philosophical perspective. He’s very organised, knows how to drill a defence, his game is all about intense pressing, he’s had to coach young kids at Redbull (they pride themselves in developing the youth between 17-23), and he’s picked up some of the flair Rangnick was famous for.
He’d be a solid hire, not an overly exciting one… though he does run up and down the sideline, something fans equate with winnertivity I believe.
Interesting that Bayern Munich, a mega club who signed Carlo and Pep, have opted to sign the Frankfurt coach Niko Kovac. The German-born Croatian doesn’t have much of a CV, he played some exciting direct football under Frankfurt for the past two seasons, but he’s hardly WINNER like you might think Bayern would want after not winning the CL for a while. The big pull for them was having a German and that German having played for the club. He has that emotional tie to Bayern, and that’ll take the edge off them not landing a mega name.
Anyway, point is, they’re a bigger club than us, with better players, and they’re hiring someone who basically did a good job of not getting Frankfurt relegated.
The Galactico manager is a dying breed, unless they bring the magic football…
Not that I’d ever bring the post back to who I want Arsenal to sign.
Leeds
Has someone said Arsenal must not hire a person of colour?
Genuine question – because I’m seeing your posts and wondering if I’ve missed something
Dissenter
Arsenal’s accounts are published in public domain. There are few secrets.
You don’t need to read media reports by sports journalists to analyse them. They
are probably just as pig ignorant as most media pundits [ex footballers] who can
barely count let alone read a balance sheet.
“Has someone said Arsenal must not hire a person of colour?”
They already did that by the past, wenger was grey.
(sorry, couldn’t resist)
Guns of Hackney
You’re right wenger did spend poorly:
Ozil, Xhaka, mustafi, chambers in particular. The one really good signing he made, Sanchez, ended up leaving for a poor swap deal- and he went to man utd, something that’s unnacceptable as far as I’m concerned.
However, from the stadium move up until the Ozil purchase, wenger had no transfer budget and had to sell or was unable to keep his best players.
It didn’t have to be that way.
Buckhurst Gun
Yes you have missed the premise of the entire post Leeds put up.
Leeds wasn’t discussing that someone suggested Arsenal must not hire a person of color.
I think we should try and unite for a bit. Wait and see what happens and roll with it. Arteta may not be everyone’s or anyone’s choice but that’s tough. We assume that Arsenal have gone cheap etc but…maybe just maybe no one actually fancied the job. We’re not privy to board meetings. Here’s the thing. Let’s say arsenal could have got: Ancelloti Jardim Enrique Tuchel Bagelsmann But they chose Arteta. Think about that for a minute. They decided on Arteta. I don’t think this was down to wages. I think Arsenal are going a different direction and they should… Read more »
Guns of hackney
Agreed.
I’m intrigued by the prospect of Arteta as manager . Let’s see how he gets on.
Emirates
Did you know that we paid a sign on bonus for Aubameyang.
Do you know the intricacies of the bonus structure for the players or their media rights from the broad financials laid out at the AGM?
Players have agents who work by leaking stuff to the media to pressure the club.
Financial statements do not reveal everything, not unless your a forensic accountant who can dig into the figures and ask for further information..
AH
Great. That makes three of us ha ha…
The premier league won’t know what hit it.
Guns
Your right
It’s a big move if it goes wrong I’m sure they will address it a lot quicker than they left the wenger drama.
Heck if these people are working in 5he best interest of the club what could go wrong .?
Arsenal are signing Conchita from Eurovision as assistant.
A black, one legged Jew as fitness coach.
…and a traveller as pitch man.
Progressive.
I think Arteta will be in a tracksuit. I don’t like that.
I think a manager should always wear a sheepskin fur collar long coat, drive a jag, six sovereign rings and a have a Cuban.
Hackney you’re good man
Guns of Hackney “Here’s the thing. Let’s say arsenal could have got:Ancelloti Jardim Enrique Tuchel Bagelsmann But they chose Arteta. Think about that for a minute. They decided on Arteta.” That’s why there’s an uproar in some quarters and head shaking disquiet in others. It certainly wasn’t about ambition, me thinks. It stinks of downscaling expectations and targets. Just one take of it. I don’t understand this notion of dissension tomthe appintment meaning division. This is not the military where everyone falls in line. Let people have their say in lampooning the club until the appintment is made. It’s just… Read more »
*Arseblog
Buckhurst No, I’m just posing a question for debate. If we have a truly open process, why are we hiring a complete newbie on the say so of a rival manager? Why not open up the process completely and hire the best candidate based on experience and the best skillset? Wouldn’t it then be wonderful if that candidate WAS a person of colour? Or a woman? Or a person from East Asia? I repeat you’re not hiring them because of their background alone, but because of their experience and skillset. Their background would be a powerful asset in demonstrating that… Read more »
“Raneri in. Arteta out”
Speaking of Ranieri. Why not give Nigel Pearson a go? Leicester had already turned the corner by the time Ranieri was appointed. I really think its worth a punt, he wouldn’t take these half baked performances we produce week after week
Dissenter Boom. You’re right. 100%. I’m honestly not trying to kick people’s doors in about Arteta and I certainly do not have any agenda from his appointment. I don’t write blogs and I don’t personally know Arteta. For me, I was done with Arsenal. Finished. Wenger has wrecked my love for the club and honestly, I didn’t ever see his leaving. So when arsenal FINALLY did the right thing, I was flabbergasted. Of course all the fantasy managers etc start going through your head but we have to be realistic. I think a lot of people thought Allegri would just… Read more »
B10 I certainly believe that, given the right directives, the existing squad could compete for top four. Personally, I would only ditch Cech and bring back Martinez and Macey. The entire defensive unit, and I include everyone in this, must be breathing a collective sigh of relief, now that Wenger has left. Should Bould be given a second chance? Not sure about that. The new manager, should it be Arteta, will no doubt solve that one. Why panic? These players have been mismanaged for so long by clueless Wenger, but, imo, it will only take a few constructive and progressive… Read more »
Dissenter
The accounts covering Aubameyang’s earnings have not been published.
The der Spiegel rumours if true will be covered by next accounts. The club
will show all expenditure in those accounts and usually include details of top
earners as they did with Wenger.
Actually I am less concerned about Aubameyang’s alleged earnings than those of Ozil. Aubameyang’s basic salary is considerably less than Ozil and many of the proposed payments are performance related.
Let’s be honest all football players wages in EPL are obscene and in most cases
unwarranted.
The sky is blue and the sun is shining. Wenger has left the building and, for the first time for many years, we can all feel positive about things.
Bring on 2018-2019.
Even looking forward to the World Cup.
Guns: “For me, this isn’t as important as it once was. Teams aren’t managed by one guy…it’s a collective of individuals. Coaches, trainers, DOF, CEO, fitness etc.” This is the key point. I have no idea if Arteta will be a good manager or not. However, I think we have to understand that in modern football thought, the all-powerful manager is no longer the ideal set up. It is true Kroenke is a crap owner that lacks ambition, but it’s not because his CEO and the CEO’s DoF and head of recruitment are moving towards an inexperienced manager. Again, I… Read more »
Hassenhult or Arteta, Enrique or Ancelotti, David Wagner or Jardim, Rodgers or that 30year old. The Arsenal should appointment someone. I am already getting tired of expecting them to announce a name. Though it’s weird that Hassenhult would quit his job where he really could do whatever he wanted. And it’s also convenient that he omitted having talked to Arsenal last year. Maybe he was trying hard to deflect attention from us. I remember prior to Enrique taking the barca job he denied all questions about it on the media, resigned, kept on denying and was announced Barca manager same… Read more »
Gooner in NY
Nice. That’s four Arteta ‘ins’.
We only need a few million more and it will be a movement.
Hart
Shaw
Evans
Balotelli
What you think?
Guess what? It’s not my job to look for the Arsenal manager. It’s Ivan’s. After saying he was embarking on an exhaustive process… are you really telling me that Mikael Arteta is the best they can do? As for women managers why not Emma Hayes? She is the manager of Chelsea Ladies and she’s doing a great job. Unlike Arteta she has worked as a manager 9 years. What? Is Emma Hayes not good enough because she hasn’t managed in the men’s game? In the EPL? Newsflash. Arteta hasn’t managed in the men’s game or the EPL either… what makes… Read more »
Guys
Settle down. Come on. It’s a Football blog, not a political forum.
It’ll just turn into a slanging match.
This broke my heart. saw it in an article.
“The north London club is in need of a shake-up at the back having lost 18 games and conceding 69 goals in the 2017/18 campaign.”
18 defeats and 69 goals conceded. wow!!!
Your Comment Here
Chris Houghton is good enough, even though his ex-spuds.
Come to think of it, Wilshere is yet to sign that contract extension.
What disrespect from the player parading himself as Mr Arsenal.
Wilshere is daan the local giving it larrrrge.
He’ll sign the contract when he learns how to write. Be patient.
The colour and gender of football managers is irrelevant to anything We shouldn’t even be asking the question imo. All canadates who have something serious to offer should be taken seriously, the rest should not. If that means we end up with a black LBGT dwarf Muslim woman from Turkmenistan or Carlo Ancellotti it makes no difference to me if they’re demonstrably capable. I don’t think we need to be making an active effort to look at who the best woman or minority is in the world of coaching. We should just be looking at coaches in general and see… Read more »
Aubagine
You know absolutely nothing about me, and I didn’t insult you, why are you calling me pathetic?
I just posted some ideas for argument and debate. If that makes you uncomfortable, I feel sorry for you.
Again, you’re calling me pathetic? Based on what? Because I want the club I love to hire the best candidate?
Give me a break. Apologies welcomed, but I won’t be holding my breath.
Wishing you the best,
mystic
Yeh, that’s because we had a clueless buffoon in charge.
* or is rising to the top
I honestly do not have a clue why we resort to insults.
Let’s agree or disagree but cut out the bullshit.
Come on. Enjoy the Arteta love in.
Wenger, regardless of what you thought of him was a major draw for players. I don’t think Ozil would have come to Arsenal if we didn’t have Wenger. Wenger has a name recognition that probably drew people, fans and players alike.
What’s going to happen now. Where do we get our draw from, Not from the manager obviously, just laying above market wages and providing London as a platform.
Just head scratching.
Dissenter
You prick!
I’m convinced at that this Aubergine lad is someone who’s been bitten by a rabid skunk.
Its just adhominem attacks on people over and over again.
Our managerial hunt shouldn’t be an active effort to show how inclusive we are. It should be a hunt for talent and capability.
If Chris bought on us the best and right candidate, go for him. But we shouldn’t be going for him because we’ve looked at arteta. The question is should we even be looking at arteta at all?
Obviously that is a contentious question and already a lot of us have strong opinions one way or the other
Leeds
What? Is Emma Hayes not good enough because she hasn’t managed in the men’s game? In the EPL? Newsflash. Arteta hasn’t managed in the men’s game or the EPL either… what makes him good enough?”
what the fvck are you on about?take a chill pill and give it a rest ffs,Arteta has not even been announced and your having verbal diarrhea already,wonder what you’ll do by Monday when its official,i fear for your mental state.
Guns of H
Just trying to wind you up.
@Guns : I hope Arteta will not break your heart lol
China
“Our managerial hunt shouldn’t be an active effort to show how inclusive we are. It should be a hunt for talent and capability.”
Agreed.
Every candidate regardless of their background has to have the experience and skill set to do the job, that’s not in question.
I’m not saying we should hire a woman, or a minority candidate if they don’t have the experience or skill set but if they do…why not?
I’m just not convinced that Arteta is anywhere near who we need as manager/head coach of our club.
“i fear for your mental state.”
Says the man who was in love with wenger .
Dissenter
I know we’re mucking about. Actually, I do agree with you about Wenger. He did have a pull. I think I’m the first half it was for genuine football reasons but the latter half was because players found life under Wenger piss easy.
It’s all down to the individual player. Some want to be the best and some just want to get through it.
I guess we’re going to find out soon what kind of players we actually have at arsenal.
I’m starting to miss that old buzzard. Damn. Too late for a Wenger in?
Dissenter
Its just adhominem attacks on people over and over again”
says the contrarian windbag who goes bitchy in almost every conversation on here,you did worst to Wenger you hypocritical assface.
HL
Mikel is a heartbreaker. Swoon. Housewife’s choice!
I’m not drunk but I am convinced that this might work.
Buffon says he’s not retiring after all. He’s available after his last game for Juve and he doesn’t want to play in Italy or in a minor league.
Looks like an easy way to upgrade on Cech without a massive outlay.
“Hypocritical ass face”
Victorious. That was funny.
But you’re still a douche for supporting Wenger.
Arsenal need to reduce wage bill and spend more on transfers. We are top four in wages paid but our squad is not worth it, I believe Spuds and Liverpool have significantly lower wages. Arsenal execs should try to lower overall wages by 30% and spend it on new players instead. Arsenal not spending it’s money wisely, we are overpaying players for middling results. Wages Arsenal pay has been bothering me for long time, I remember article from years ago that compared salaries across league, luka modric was paid 35,000 week during his last year at Spuds while Arsenal were… Read more »
Kroenke better get this next appointment right. Because where as the fans were split on Wenger, kroenke fucks this up and he’ll have the WHOLE Arsenal fan base baying for his blood. For years he had Wenger deflecting any shit his way, he no longer has that shield now Wenger has gone.
I think Wilshere, to Bob’s delight may have played his last game for the club.
Leftside
Proof? Where? Please tell me it’s true.
I can’t convince myself that Arteta rumours are true, I think it’s crazy that Arsenal are even considering an unproven coach. If Arsenal want young manager, that’s fine, but I find it hard to believe that there isn’t one more qualified in Europe than Arteta.
If we are to hire Arteta, I wonder if an announcement would be made before the end of the week.
@TYAGN : same for Ivan.
Guns
No tangible proof but Jack hasn’t signed yet. The transfer window is officially open as of today as well so I’m just wondering maybe he wants a change.
Thank you and goodnight “Kroenke better get this next appointment right. Because where as the fans were split on Wenger, kroenke fucks this up and he’ll have the WHOLE Arsenal fan base baying for his blood. For years he had Wenger deflecting any shit his way, he no longer has that shield now Wenger has gone” Which Kroenke you mean? Stan has has given his toy to Josh now. That’s how much interest Stan has got. Though to tbf it may be just not having a scooby . Josh is involved in this appointment not Stan. Stan fires him of… Read more »
Biggles
you can’t be serious
“Hiring Arteta just feels lazy to me, we’re hiring someone just because Pep and others say he is good. The sad thing is we have to take their word for it… why? Arteta has absolutely no track record to demonstrate it himself.” Leeds have a word with yourself and pack it in. This statement above is ridiculous. So you think Arsenal are considering Arteta because Pep said he’s good? Gazidis worked with and had first hand knowledge of Arteta for 5 years. You think it’s not enough for him to make an opinion on Arteta and include him amongst the… Read more »
@Biggles : a legend like Buffon has more important things to do.
Not wanting to sound like Ishola (the king of absolutes) i THINK we can’t pay for Wenger’s compensation and the release clause of a new manager in the same year plus also the wages and then make tangible transfer money available. I didn’t mean it as an absolute in my last post
Anyone from across the pond been to the new Atlanta stadium.
What a structure that is,petal retractable roof and a 30ft high.1100ft long halo screen,to help fans who are 300ft from the field of play a better view of the game.
http://onlinegooner.com/article.php?section=exclusive&id=3814#.Wv1xs3pNPm0
Some interesting reactions in their comments section…
mystic
I would be very happy with Arteta as a no.2. I just don’t think he is anywhere near enough ready to be in the no.1 seat.
If we want unemployed managers out there, Hassenhutl is a great choice based on what he has done with RB Leipzig… and he has experience on reaching the Champion’s League as well.
We don’t need another payday goal keeper.
Pass.
@Leeds
Agree with you 100%. Yes Barcelona chose Pep and the rest is history, but he inherited a squad that had ronaldinho, eto etc etc plus 2 years previously they’d been to a CL final. Hardly a shabby squad. Where as Arsenal are in need of a massive overhaul with at least 9 players needing to be sold, ( that is Wenger’ s legacy you akbs ) . Wenger has left the club in a huge fucking mess and no rose tinted glasses can hide that fact. Arteta for me is a no no.
But still, Mikel will be a yes yes. (lol)
Xhaka, monreal( too old), Wilshire,Mustafi,chambers, holding, jenkinson, ospina, cech, elneny,welbeck, any more feel free to add to the list.
@TYAG
Iwobi, Ozil, Bellerin, Adelaide, Perez, Bielk, Campbell.
The latest financial statements paint a very grim picture of Arsenal finances. Not winning Europa league combined with a sixth position finish and lower broadcast revenue means our year end financials will show a significant drop in YoY revenue. Players wages are up by approximately 13 million which is a significant amount given our meagre revenue. Assuming property development to be a one time revenue line item and wages going up by another 2-3 percent, another outside CL spot finish will really ruin our finances next year.
They should just make the announcement already I for one hope the likes of Ramsey and Ozil all demand transfers sighting Arteta’s inexperience. My choice for this job was Allegri and will always be Allegri. Yet that is no reason to throw my toys out of the pram or close my ears to any positive reasons as to why we might be going down the Arteta road. I do not care for appointment that is lauded by all the pundits and causes panic among rival fans, at the end of the day what matters is our performances on the pitch.… Read more »
@Receding hairlines
I will support Arteta 100% if he is chosen. My point is I think it’s too big a job for such an inexperienced coach. Let’s be honest the club has been left in a really bad way, with far far too many average players on huge salaries who just aren’t good enough for our club. That is Wenger’ s legacy.
“I would be very happy with Arteta as a no.2. I just don’t think he is anywhere near enough ready to be in the no.1 seat.”
Leeds, but this is just you. Frankly the only thing you know about Arteta is from his time as a player. Even then he was captain for both Everton and Arsenal. You don’t get there without having leadership skills.
Now, it might not be idle but I totally get why the execs will include him in the list.
ideal*
@TYAGN : have a little faith in Hairjunk please, he knows best.
Victorious
There is a monumental difference between a rabid abnoxious prat and someone who merely highlights his own points of view.
@ A14 clearly has issues.
“My point is I think it’s too big a job for such an inexperienced coach” @TYAG Is it really that big a job?? We really can’t have it both ways We cannot spend every waking moment on here telling everyone how Arsenal are now a midtable club and then suddenly demand we throw 50M at Man City and demand they give us Pep as someone here just posted. I was just listening to the know it all’s on ESPN and they just said Arsenal does not represent a step up for any of the “world class” Managers. If all it… Read more »
Arteta (inexperienced) against Van Gaal, Ancelotti, Wenger, Allardyce (loads of experience) and I know who I am choosing.
Ideally you need someone that can impress you with his ideas, skillset and experience but that’s only like Allegri (who we would have spoken to), Jardim, Simeone (negative football) and a few others like hassenhult and maybe Nagelsman (a no no for me). Don’t believe for once Arteta was our first choice. Some factors might have shot him to the forefront, that’s if all this isn’t a smokescreen for Hassenhult.
@TYAGN : have a little faith in Hairjunk please, he knows best.
You are actually a sad pathetic dude
Twentytwo years of Wenger, twelve of which were based on the acceptance of mediocrity, and some are already questioning our proposed appointment.
Lets rejoice for christ sake.
Satan has finally left the building and change is afoot.
*give everyone a chance
Given our finances the path forward is to improve the players we already have and possibly develop a couple of youth players. Stories of Arteta improving a couple of City players might have done the trick for him. Arsenal can’t hire managers who will demand a significant transfer fund unless Stan opens up his purse strings. Perhaps that’s why we didn’t hire Allegri or Enrique despite our interest in them.
Before Guardiola was given the key to Barcelona he had only 1 year of prior management in football. Zidane was the same too (I think). Nagelsman was in football but had never managed before he was given the job for Hoffe. Tedesco never managed for Schalke. All of them proceeded to do well after wards. Please what difference does 1 year managerial experience make in the grand scheme of things? If Pep failed in Barca he would have failed regardless of his experience with the B team. Seedorf failed with Milan but he was managing the Junior sides before he… Read more »
Was anyone else thinking last night that if Arsenal had beaten AM and gone on to play OM in the final, they would have, based on the law of averages, cocked it up.
“He will either fail or succeed. ”
That depends of how the point of view of the board has changed about the criterias to describes “failure” and “success”…
Not that keen on arteta either, will of course back him, but it stinks of the cheap option if it is him.
Why not PV4, more experience as a coach and manager.
Working on a budget with lesser players.
A winning captain who the players would have respected if you wanted to go the cheap route, rather than an allegri etc.
Patrick Vieira is managing we’ll score more goals than you football in the US atm.
Not much focus on him from the defensive side.
I don’t think the club are ready for someone to come in and put defensive steel in this team and it is unlikely Arteta will either. Lot of fans not interested and the powers that be will happily roll along with it. It’s another excuse for them if they don’t win big. At least we try to play the “right” way. This to go along with self-sufficiency. All good for ducking.
Ishola,
You work with what you have, over there it’s more about entertainment than a defensive game.
I would have more confidence in pv4 who actually played and captained a great defence, then Arteta playing in the banter years with a goal keeper and defence that was as bad as we had and still have.
“If Arteta can comes to Arsenal as manger, 2 things can happen. He will either fail or succeed. If Allegri comes to Arsenal same thing applies to him.”
Same applies to Big Sam and David Moyes. Would you be happy with anyone of them?
“If Arteta can comes to Arsenal as manger, 2 things can happen. He will either fail or succeed. If Allegri comes to Arsenal same thing applies to him.” Come on bud that’s a very simplistic, narrow-minded view. life isn’t black and white, it’s multi-layered and multivariable with as many outcomes. In the law of averages, the most likely/tangible outcome is that both Arteta and Allegri fail to meet some or all of their KPI’s which I’d guess would be firstly top 4 and then to win the EPL or CL during their tenure. The significant difference is that with Allegri,… Read more »
Kovac at Bayern is an interesting one. Have they gone too far down the path of preferring those with a club connection? I’m tempted to say they have such a monopoly on talent in that league that it doesn’t matter too much, but I do wonder if it becomes an insiders-only problem down the line.
Wenger is gone and the Le Grove fans are still at each others throat……Wenger obsession PTSD in full flow here.
Vieira to Nice is a great move. I hope he succeeds and is involved with Arsenal in the future. Football needs more black managers.
Henry getting interviewed Monday to be part of the new look coaching staff.
Wonder if he’ll want to be a pundit at the same time too?
Sky now reporting through sources, that Arsenal are set for talks with Henry.
The bad thing with TH14 : he seems to be far too obsessed by money to say goodbye to his TV consultant job.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11376295/arsene-wenger-backs-mikel-arteta-for-arsenal-manager-role
lol